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Posted on May 31, 2011
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The Pentagon has decided to treat Internet-borne attacks on the United States as acts of war. The change is motivated in part by a brewing leet arms race with China and Russia. Essentially the U.S. is playing catch-up in what someone from the 1990s would call “cyberspace” and the military is buying time by creating, it hopes, a deterrent.

Here are some problems with that plan:

First, you have to be able to figure out (and prove, hopefully) what country attacked you. China, Russia and Israel (with alleged U.S. collaboration) have all been accused of carrying out high-profile attacks on foreign targets, but none has been proved to originate within any of the accused governments.

And who’s to say that the actions of an individual or group should be just cause for fellow citizens to suffer retribution? The U.S. has a history of wild overreaction in this arena. Take the case of the British UFO enthusiast who faces 60 years in prison for scouring Pentagon computers for alien info.

Also, this new policy makes us more open to Gulf of Tonkin-style incidents in which the U.S. could justify military action or war based on difficult-to-corroborate claims of attempted attack (paging WikiLeaks). And if you threaten to bomb people who cyberattack you, you may have to back that up at some point.

Please share your own concerns (or endorsement of the new policy) in the comments section below.

The Pentagon seems to be worried that attackers may cause real damage by attacking the power grid or nuclear power plants. That’s a scary thought, but it’s also a bit Hollywood. Of course you have to be prepared, but missiles are no substitute for adequate Internet security.

This new way of thinking has not yet been formally released by the Pentagon, and there are lingering questions that need answering. In the excerpt below, The Wall Street Journal probes the legal issues of digital warfare and conventional retaliation. —PZS

Wall Street Journal via Engadget:

The Rules of Armed Conflict that guide traditional wars are derived from a series of international treaties, such as the Geneva Conventions, as well as practices that the U.S. and other nations consider customary international law. But cyber warfare isn’t covered by existing treaties. So military officials say they want to seek a consensus among allies about how to proceed.

“Act of war” is a political phrase, not a legal term, said Charles Dunlap, a retired Air Force Major General and professor at Duke University law school. Gen. Dunlap argues cyber attacks that have a violent effect are the legal equivalent of armed attacks, or what the military calls a “use of force.”

“A cyber attack is governed by basically the same rules as any other kind of attack if the effects of it are essentially the same,” Gen. Dunlap said Monday. The U.S. would need to show that the cyber weapon used had an effect that was the equivalent of a conventional attack.

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By drbhelthi, June 3, 2011 at 2:01 am Link to this comment

Add “Quack”, “Dr.Quack”, “anti-semitic” to the list of nonsequiturs used by the cubicle of the alias, “Inherit The Wind”.

Contrary to the findings of Hebrew scholars, a clan of zionist-types
continues to misuse the term “semites”, which clan has not existed as a
definable entity for about over two thousand years.

A clan of vagabond thieves and murderers that continues to demand special consideration from the world, while stealing properties of Palestinians, murdering women and childen, while misrepresenting the genuine, Jewish
belief, has no scruples.

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By Inherit The Wind, June 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

drbhelthi, June 2 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

Inheret The Wind = An excellent creator of distorted delusions.
Perhaps “Fart in The Wind” would be a more fitting alias.

*******

As long as you, Dr.Quack are down-wind it’s OK with me.

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By Cliff Carson, June 2, 2011 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment

Anarcissie

First let me apologize for spelling you name wrong on another thread.

As to Aspergers, it seems it is manifested because of either a physical malfunction or from mental conditions not physical.  I had thought it mental only until a Granddaughter of mine was diagnosed with the disorder.  The doctor told me that in her case it was caused by a restricted blood flow thru the brain due to constricted arteries.  She was born with the condition and he told me she would never get any better.  She was a beautiful little girl and you would never know then that something was wrong unless you monitored her closely.

If you did you would notice almost no co-ordination ( she never learned to ride a bicycle ) and some peculiarities of fixation.

She is an adult now and she never seemed to be interested in learning or socializing.  But she is a whiz at some mathematical functions.  Seems to be able to calculate percentages instantaneously.

I was contacted by someone who claimed that it was connected to vaccinations.  I was told that sometimes the normal baby shots can arrest development, but I also was told by someone else that her condition was a birth defect most likely by a medication her mother took while pregnant.

She has other children and they are all normal.

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By drbhelthi, June 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment

Inheret The Wind = An excellent creator of distorted delusions.
Perhaps “Fart in The Wind” would be a more fitting alias.

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By felicity, June 2, 2011 at 9:21 am Link to this comment

John R.  -  and don’t forget that 446 American troops
died in combat last year, while 408 American troops
committed suicide.

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By Anarcissie, June 2, 2011 at 6:33 am Link to this comment

Autism is a physical condition.  See the Wikipedia article; it includes a long list of footnotes and citations.  The proposed connection with vaccination is ‘unpersuasive’, to put it mildly.  However, the conspiratorial flavor of that theory appears to be irresistible, so don’t let me interfere with your fun.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Autism

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By Inherit The Wind, June 2, 2011 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

A Nazi killer, convicted in more than one court of genocidal crimes is defended by Dr. Quack as “He vas chust followink orders.”...but claims he’s not anti-Semitic.

The President’s birth in the US is repeatedly questioned by Dr. Quack even after the full, long form is released to the publc.  Dr. Quack goes on to sardonically refer to the President by the code words “Mocha Savior”...but he claims he’s not racist.

Dr. Quack consistently defends the racist Whites Only positions taken by the extreme Teabaggers, and by the White Supremacists, then calls anyone who challenges him a “Nazi”.

So the rational conclusions are that Dr. Quack is either seriously delusional…or a White Supremacist troll sent here to pretend he’s a progressive while continually advancing the agenda of such organizations.

Could be either.  Doctors go crazy all the time, and shrinks get into psychology because they are inevitably seriously disturbed themselves.  Doctors also, in their delusion that they are “better” than other people easily hook up with bigotry.

So do Dr. Quack’s bigotry, racism, anti-semitism and defense of a CONVICTED Nazi murderer come from his being mentally ill or a troll for the racists?

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By drbhelthi, June 2, 2011 at 12:15 am Link to this comment

And I’ve achieved the same effect as I would by hacking into missile
“defense.”  Miko

Perhaps.
- if country B isn´t already being bombed by the WWII NAZI types that have slowly overtaken the U.S.A., and are spreading out to the rest of the earth ?

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By Clarence, June 1, 2011 at 7:44 pm Link to this comment
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Hack us and we will bomb you. My question to you is:
When you hack me, what am I to do? Shall I bomb you
back in return? And if I do would you consider me to be
a terrorist?

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By Miko, June 1, 2011 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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So, say I’m a member of Government A and want the U.S.
to bomb Country B.  Now all I have to do is hack some
low level U.S. system that isn’t very secure and do it
in such a way that the attack appears to come from
Country B.  And I’ve achieved the same effect as I
would by hacking into missile “defense.”

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By drbhelthi, June 1, 2011 at 11:20 am Link to this comment

Could we all be acquiring (genetically and otherwise) a kind of autism,
or Asperger’s syndrome?  How about PTSD?  Gerard

Autism and PTSD demonstrate very differently.  PTSD is characteristically
found in Adults.  Autism is found in children as young as three.  Earlier
reviews of Autism isolated it to alleged “inoculations.”  When it was
discovered among the Amish, it was limited to families who had received
“inoculations.”  Patterns of brain function in autistic persons vary from
those of non-autistic persons. Many other abnormal neurological patterns
have been discovered among both children and adults who have had the
“recommended series” of inoculations. 

While opinions among health specialists vary, the epidemiological
increase in “fibromyalgia” is attributed by some to inoculations.  Also,
inoculations have been proven to NOT work as advertised – if at all. 
Which is why the MD pimpery among the pharma industry DEMAND that every
living being run down to the nearest shot-shop and get an annual flu-
shit.  If it worked, one would not be required annually. This year´s
“inoculation” was made from last year´s virus.  So, you figure it out. 
Better to perk up the immune system with Vit D, catch and overcome the
flu without becoming ill.  Once over it, the body is immune to it, life-
long.  Not so with inoculations.

PTSD has always existed, but was branded with the name, Post Traumatic
Stress Disorder about forty years ago.  Your suggestion about the
emotional bombardments of our time and the effect on most of us, falls
within the PTSD area.  However, there is a little device called the
“C.E.S.” which works wonders with the brain. The little device can be
built for $40-$60, or purchased for $150-$350. The thin book, “Cranial
Electrotherapy Stimulation,” by Ray B. Smith, Ph.D. explains it in
detail, succinctly, briefly.  This is the only book available that
presents the facts succinctly, without recruiting $$ for the pharma
industry or book salesman.  The device defeats insomnia and depression,
among other undesired symptoms, when used daily, with no unfavourable
side-effects. NONE.  I can personally vouch for its effectiveness, and
use it with family, friends and acquaintances. For more info send me a PM
via your Truthdig console.

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By SarcastiCanuck, June 1, 2011 at 10:59 am Link to this comment
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Well lets say that I am Pakistan and I hack the Petagon and make it look like it is India doing it.America then bombs my enemy,India,making him thier enemy as well and I still get the billions of dollars in handouts every year plus a new powerful ally.Thanks suckers…Another classic example of military intelligence being an oxymoron…

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By John R., June 1, 2011 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

Gerard;
“Question:  Could such symptoms be as yet unrecognized and uncorrelated as a process occurring due to the emotional impact of constantly repeated awareness of stark horrors and cruelties human beings are tolerating in spite of conscience to the contrary?  Could we all be acquiring (genetically and otherwise) a kind of autism, or Asperger’s syndrome?  How about PTSD?”


A very good question. Some possible statistics, I do not know the credibility of these organizations. For searching I used (Google) and entered as example: (Asperger’s syndrome statistics in america)

Results:

AUTISM -

Vaccination News.com:

The number of children diagnosed with autism in America is continuing to increase at a
rate of more than 20% a year, according to the latest figures published by the US
Department of Health.

The figures show that in the year 1999/2000 the number of schoolchildren in America with
autism was 65,396 compared with 53,576 the previous year.

Found at:
http://www.autisticsociety.org/News/article/sid=149—0-0.html

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Asperger’s syndrome

I could not find any statistical data explained as like Autism above, but according to this 30
min. KPBS broadcast with guest Chantal Sicile-Kira , an autism expert, author and national
speaker on Asperger’s syndrome. Asperger’s syndrome is on the rise.

Link to broadcast:
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2007/apr/11/aspergers-syndrome-on-the-rise/


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PTSD is the most disturbing -

There seemed to be site after site with soldiers dealing (and not dealing) with PTSD.

Here is some data:

“... in 2009, the Veterans Administration was treating 143, 530 new PTSD patients, which
was up from 134,000 in 2008. In 2010, the Veterans Administration released documents to
Veterans For Common Sense showing that the number of soldiers being treated for PTSD
had risen.
According to the Department of Veterans Affairs in June 2010, there were 171,423
deployed Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans diagnosed with PTSD, out of total of 593,634
patients treated by VA (http://www.va.gov). The number “593,634’ refers to veterans from all
conflicts and wars, and of that total “171,423” were veterans of war in either Iraq or
Afghanistan. This means that Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans represent 29% of the total
of patients treated for PTSD, treated at the VA. Alarming statistics given that most veterans
choose not to break the military stigma of speaking about issues they may be facing…”

And the link
http://militarygear.com/asp/2011/01/26/171423-deployed-iraq-and-afghanistan-war-
veterans-diagnosed-with-ptsd/


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Gerard I think you asked “Could we all be acquiring (genetically and otherwise)”

That is a question I have been wondering for years as our society continues to move in a
violent direction. Most disturbing to me is the constant first person shooter video game
titles that are advertised daily on television to the children.

Certainly it is capitalism and knowing the (target) audience, but, these violent games, seems
like, the introduction to the violent life that our government purports.

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By Druthers, June 1, 2011 at 10:27 am Link to this comment
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Since when are the military qualified to determine what is a “strike” and even more important what the consequences are?
Roosevelt declared a state of war and Congress declared war.
But those were the old days.

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By felicity, June 1, 2011 at 9:34 am Link to this comment

Aha!  This might explain why the US Military has spent
a fortune (of tax-payer dollars) on the EATR program
which is a cyberg-insect program which builds robots
that can power themselves by eating the bodies of those
they kill.

How about this.  Drones will ‘drop’ the robots world-
wide - obviously it’ll only take one ‘drop.’  They will
then ‘eat’ enemy computers (hopefully not the people
operating them, but then again?)

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By gerard, June 1, 2011 at 8:55 am Link to this comment

JohnN:  1.” (if there was any scrap of empathy left anywhere amongst the political landscape)”

SoTexGuy: 2.”... a slow dissolution of life and health and the very molecular makeup of our bodies and those of our children..”

Gerard: 3 ... Autism is showing up increasingly in children.  Charactertic:  Lack of empathy. Inability to relate to the feelings of others. Current research indicates evidence of brain changes.

Question:  Could such symptoms be as yet unrecognized and uncorrelated as a process occurring due to the emotional impact of constantly repeated awareness of stark horrors and cruelties human beings are tolerating in spite of conscience to the contrary?  Could we all be acquiring (genetically and otherwise) a kind of autism, or Asperger’s syndrome?  How about PTSD?

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By m@earth, June 1, 2011 at 5:45 am Link to this comment
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Translation. In all true reality.  As a nation in the actual, with it it’s actual citizens
who live, breath, and attempt to pay their taxes and be smart consumers and
decent Americans.  We, the people actually are out of enemies. 
The drugs have worn off.  The addict is showing their desperation.  Thus. 
We, the corporate citizenry just need something to validate our bloated existence
and to maintain the continued occupation of the U.S. as an enemy operating from
within.

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By Lisa Simeone, June 1, 2011 at 5:00 am Link to this comment

It’s unfortunate there are no longer
“movements” embracing mass, ongoing, public protests.
I think there is a malaise running through the
country; sort of like a collective depression and
this malaise, thereby, results in mass feelings of
impotence.

That’s changing.  There have been, in fact, many spontaneous
uprisings of protest around the country that, naturally, have
gotten little to no play in the mainstream media.  I’d append a
bunch of links here but I think that might get this comment
booted to the spam folder.

There’s a lot of anger in the country—about these wars, about
unemployment, about home foreclosures, about criminal bankers,
about a warmongering President and craven Congress, about the
expansion of the National Security State.  Many of us are working
on a major action in October.  Stay tuned.

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By SoTexGuy, June 1, 2011 at 4:51 am Link to this comment

It’s interesting how the specter of nuclear armageddon looms so large..

One crisis after another is met and overcome.. by giants of history and the front page and back room struggles of our statesmen and warriors.. Reductions in stockpiles, information sharing and monitoring agreements.. Non-proliferation
commitments.. Nothing done has changed the size and terrible nature of this threat.. In fact it grows. Ever more sinister and unfathomably abominable people and forces seeking to bring about the nuclear holocaust..

The end of the world as we know it due to nuclear bombs has already occurred.. it has happened quietly for the most part.. It’s now considered true that if you live in the northern hemisphere some part of the Chernobyl disaster lives inside you. The Tokyo Electric Power incident is coming to someplace near you soon..
If anyone cared to investigate then all that is probably true of peoples all over the globe from thermonuclear bomb tests out in the Pacific and elsewhere by all the great (nuclear) powers.

Compared to a slow dissolution of life and health and the very molecular makeup of our bodies and those of our children.. a few well-placed 100 Mega-ton bombs don’t really look so bad!

Carbon pollution and Global warming are a hoax! but let’s go ahead and build more Nukes, they are carbon neutral! (we need the DU for kinetic weapons and the Plutonium for bombs)..

All our money and lives spent to prevent the bad guys from getting the BOMB are working and worth it! .. but we need more and better bombs and missiles just so everybody knows we’re serious..

Honor the noble dead! .. scare the hell out of the living!

Amen.

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By PatrickHenry, June 1, 2011 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

The way they went after Gary Mckinnon should demonstrate how much taxpayer money they are willing to spend in order to get their man.

Alienate other nations populations and undermine those nations sovereignty, it doesn’t matter, the United States has the foreign policy finesse of a brick.

It also demonstrates how realitively unsecure our nations computer systems are.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/07/2009731112314426754.html

Imagine, the ability to investigate and cause turmoil from your own couch and laptop, a Truthdigger dream.

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By drbhelthi, June 1, 2011 at 3:26 am Link to this comment

What ever the government is declaring at this point, I believe is moot.
They seem to do whatever they want and whenever they want with no
accountability.                                                               
If they are committing murder without accountability, then…    John R.

The acceleration and take-over began with the creation of the C.I.A.
after the end of WWII by NAZIs in the USGOV, led by the Dulles brothers.
Subsequent activities, the sneaking into the U.S. of 200 German (NAZI)
rocket scientists via “Operation Paper Clip,” between 1945-1947,
repetitions of Operation Paper Clip until 1952, essentially transferred
NAZI Headquarters from Berlin to Wash.D.C., Huntsville, AL and Ft.
Bliss, TX. 

Hubertus Strughold, MD, conducted experiments on Jewish folk at the NAZI
extermination installation in Dachau, which killed most of them.  Yet,
he was promoted to Chief of Space Medicine for NASA. 

The NAZI support activities of the Bush family have been documented
since the 1930s.  The pattern established by GHWBushSr, as secretive CEO
of the CIA, is clear.  It was accelerated by his son, the U.S.President,
George Bush, 2000-2008, responsible for the Patriot Act legislation, and
related restrictions of the rights of Americans under the
U.S.Constitution. 

Was gross hypocrisy most recently displayed in Munich by the trial of
John Demjanjuk ? Now advertised as the last of the WWII NAZI war
criminals, Demjanjuk was a Polish soldier captured by the NAZI, 1941-
1942, and offered the choice of death or working for the NAZI.  As a
corporal, he carried out the execution orders of his superior officers. 
Demjanjuk had already been tried in an Israeli court and released due to
lack of evidence.  What type of Hollywood goal was attained by
convicting an over 90-yr-old former corporal?  Why were the NAZI
officers who ordered the deaths of the Jewish and other folk, for which
Demjanjuk was convicted, not identified by the Simon Wiesenthal clan and
brought to trial 40-30 years ago? 

Was this trial a repetition of “punish the little man,” a distraction
from the guilty leadership?  In a manner, similar to the PFC Bradley
Manning debacle?  Manning, being punished without trial, who revealed
criminal activity of his leadership.

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By NZDoug, June 1, 2011 at 12:21 am Link to this comment

I just know its those Iran guy hackers…....

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By John R., May 31, 2011 at 10:18 pm Link to this comment

Those whom will kill, versus those that will not kill.

And equally unsettling, is how quickly the cablegates from Wikileaks, and the war video displaying the lack of care by soldiers that were obviously quite some distance from their suspected targets, and had more than enough time to take a closer look and be very judge-mental, but then did not use any prudent decision making, and those whom encouraged the gunmen in the helicopter, to fire upon the unarmed reporters and civilians.

It has all simply taken a backseat to what should be (if there was any scrap of empathy left anywhere amongst the political landscape) a type of beacon, a symbol even, that there is something seriously wrong with our society in general.

But where is the backlash? 

What happened to the soldiers that committed this action?

What ever the government is declaring at this point, I believe is moot. They seem to do
whatever they want and whenever they want with no accountability. 

If they are committing murder without accountability then…

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., May 31, 2011 at 9:19 pm Link to this comment

Cliff Carson, May 31 at 8:22 pm Link to this comment
Yes

America is the biggest hacker in the world and the
most aggressive in stealing other nations resources,
but I am an American.

What am I to do?
================================
I’m also an American. I can’t say what’s right for
others; but I left 2 months after Bush
invaded/attacked Iraq.
That was my “action” but I honestly don’t think there
is much any “ordinary” citizen can do except to vote
with ones wallet or feet.
This takes some thought for the most effective things
to boycott. It’s unfortunate there are no longer
“movements” embracing mass, ongoing, public protests.
I think there is a malaise running through the
country; sort of like a collective depression and
this malaise, thereby, results in mass feelings of
impotence.
My conclusion is that each person must think deeply
about what they as an individual can/will do and
then; do it. Right or wrong; do something. You’ll
feel better. Cheers.

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By Cliff Carson, May 31, 2011 at 8:22 pm Link to this comment

Yes

America is the biggest hacker in the world and the most aggressive in stealing other nations resources,
but I am an American.

What am I to do?

I won’t take up arms against my country so that just leaves me with the legal to replace the criminals in Washington.  I have to convince enough people to get rid of one Party.  So we only have to battle one.

The Republican Party has shown the disdain they have for the common people.  They have shown that they think the richest and powerful in American need m,ore riches and more power.  Isn’t that what they have shown?  Get rid of everything for the old and needy and give it to the rich.  Kind of a modern day reverse Robin Hood, steal from the weak and give to the strong.  Isn’t this what we are seeing from the Republican Party day after day?

Why do they want to start wars?  Because there are obscene profits to be realized by the few - the rich and powerful.  And they’ve got the rest of the Country to go and die to enhance the profits of the rich and powerful.  Isn’t his how it is working?

The rich and powerful of this world can live anywhere in the world and choose the winning side to adopt with one exception, and that is if there are no winners.  As General Butler pointed out, the Corporations made a financial killing, the peons, that’s you and me, got to fight the war and many got to die.  But not the War Crowd.  They were too busy counting their money.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 31, 2011 at 7:56 pm Link to this comment

99.99% of Generals plan to fight the last war.  The 00.01% that see through that, win.

A more appropriate bombing would be an EMP bomb…blows all the electrical circuits but doesn’t hurt people.

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By grokker, May 31, 2011 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

There are a lot of people in the world that have a better idea than retaliation breeding more retaliation. It’s called the U.S. getting their Imperialist asses out of everyone’s business for starters! An America that has some degree of introspection and much less macho posturing. An America that can actually negotiate on the basis of ideas and peace rather than constant acquisition. Unfortunately, the intelligent people are too far above being politicians.

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By gerard, May 31, 2011 at 7:25 pm Link to this comment

“One idea gaining momentum at the Pentagon is the notion of “equivalence.” If a cyber attack produces the death, damage, destruction or high-level disruption that a traditional military attack would cause, then it would be a candidate for a “use of force” consideration, which could merit retaliation”
(WSJ)

And then that “retaliation” would be a candidate for the “use of force” in a subsequent “retaliation.”??

So what else is new?  Doesn’t anybody in the world have a better idea than this?  I can’t believe it! 

PS—Don’t look to the Pentagon for new ideas. They’re stuck in a box marked “ancient history.”

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By grokker, May 31, 2011 at 7:20 pm Link to this comment

Who is going to prosecute the U.S.? The hackers. Since the U.S. is immune to the Rule of Law and you can’t out gun them, what other avenue is there? Electoral politics is a dead end.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., May 31, 2011 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

Cliff Carson, May 31 at 4:18 pm
Lets give this some deep thought.

Why should we worry about Global Warming today when
at any time one wrong move could bring the World down
in Nuclear flames.  For the good of our future and
the future of the World we need to get the
International Terrorists in front of a fair and
impartial Judge.  One not afraid to bring supreme
justice to the evil powers of this world.  We can
start with our own problem.
===================================
Nice post. Your closing paragraph is worth a good
think.
I’ve basically come to the same conclusion regarding
Global Warming; however getting terrorists in front
of a judge is highly idealistic and equally
unrealistic. Mainly because the U.S. is, in fact, the
world’s leading terrorist.
Just who is going to prosecute the U.S.?
Cheers.

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By grokker, May 31, 2011 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

“If you shut down our power grid, maybe we will put a missile down one of your smokestacks,” said a military official.

So what happens if the hacker is some 14 yr old kid living in Tucson AZ? Are they going to send a drone over his parents house and level it, killing 26 of his neighbors as well. The level of insanity is too much to bear. They will never be able to stop cyber attacks.
Perhaps they need to look at themselves, as the U.S. military/espionage community is the number one cyber attacker in the world.

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By grokker, May 31, 2011 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

I say go ahead and hack the Pentagon. If you are not part of the U.S., you will probably get bombed anyway at some point by the insane American military.

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By Cliff Carson, May 31, 2011 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

Lets give this some deep thought.

The Pentagon says it will consider this as an act of War.  The Pentagon?  Since when did the Constitution give the Pentagon the authority to start a war?

I think maybe this bluster is to respond to the Chinese threat to Washington that an attack on Pakistan will be considered as an attack on China.
Since China issued that threat two drone attacks have killed and maimed dozens of Pakistani Women and Children - and no Al Qaeda or Taliban.  The people of Pakistan are pissed and they have Nuclear Weapons.  So does China.

This is a game of chicken that no one will ever win.  Certainly not you and me.  What I see is that the War Industry wants to get a War of Proxy going on some God Forsaken Middle East Land.  Lots of money to be made - for the few.

I urge everyone to read General Smedley Butler’s “War is a Racket”.

He penned this in 1935.

Read it and see how true he spoke.  Google Smedley Butler War is a Racket, see what you get.

Why should we worry about Global Warming today when at any time one wrong move could bring the World down in Nuclear flames.  For the good of our future and the future of the World we need to get the International Terrorists in front of a fair and impartial Judge.  One not afraid to bring supreme justice to the evil powers of this world.  We can start with our own problem.

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