‘What’s That About?’: Pope Leo Takes On CEO Pay
The Catholic leader’s criticism comes as members of Congress call for tax hikes on corporations with the biggest CEO-worker pay gaps.
Pope Leo XIV arrives for a special Saturday audience in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican on Sept. 20, 2025. (AP Photo/Alessandra Tarantino)
In his first interview since becoming the leader of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Leo XIV fielded a question about the polarization that is tearing societies apart around the world.
A significant factor, he told the church-focused news site Crux, is the “continuously wider gap between the income levels of the working class and the money that the wealthiest receive.”
Pope Leo appears to be particularly baffled by the Tesla pay package that could turn Elon Musk into the world’s first trillionaire.
“What does that mean and what’s that about?” the pope asked. “If that is the only thing that has value anymore, then we’re in big trouble.”
We are indeed in big trouble. But we are not without solutions.
“If that is the only thing that has value anymore, then we’re in big trouble.”
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., are spearheading an effort behind one particularly promising solution: hefty tax hikes on companies with huge gaps between their CEO and median worker pay.
Their recently introduced Tax Excessive CEO Pay Act would base the CEO-worker pay ratio on five-year averages of the total compensation for a firm’s highest-paid executive and median worker. The tax increases would start at 0.5 percentage points on companies with gaps of 50 to 1 and top out at 5 percentage points on firms that pay their CEO more than 500 times median worker pay.
Potential revenue from 10 leading corporations
How much might specific companies owe under the bill if they refuse to narrow their gaps? At the Institute for Policy Studies, we ran the numbers on 10 leading U.S. corporations with large pay ratios. We found, for example, that Walmart, with a five-year average pay gap of 1,091 to 1, would have owed as much as $929 million in extra federal taxes in 2024 if this legislation had been in effect.
Amazon, with an even wider gap of 1,995 to 1 and higher profits, would’ve owed as much as an additional $3.1 billion last year.
| 10 U.S. Corporations With Large Pay Gaps (2024 figures) | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Company | Highest-paid executive | Highest executive pay | Median worker pay | 5-year pay ratio average (2020–2024) | Additional corporate income tax owed if the Tax Excessive CEO Pay Act had been in effect (in millions) |
| Amazon | Adam Selipsky, AWS CEO | $34,284,148 | $37,181 | 1,995 to 1 | $3,097 |
| Chipotle | Scott Boatwright, CEO | $19,137,518 | $16,666 | 1,466 to 1 | $102 |
| Home Depot | Edward Decker, CEO | $15,574,678 | $35,196 | 458 to 1 | $725 |
| Kroger | Rodney McMullen, CEO | $15,631,028 | $34,213 | 626 to 1 | $167 |
| McDonald’s | Christopher Kempczinski, CEO | $18,195,263 | $17,492 | 1,306 to 1 | $164 |
| Starbucks | Brian Niccol, CEO | $95,801,676 | $14,674 | 2,451 to 1 | $204 |
| Target | Brian Cornell, CEO | $20,407,603 | $27,090 | 746 to 1 | $210 |
| Tesla | Vaibhav Taneja, CFO | $139,472,935 | $57,243 | 979 to 1 | $115 |
| Walmart | Doug McMillon, CEO | $27,408,854 | $29,469 | 1,091 to 1 | $929 |
| Yum! Brands | David Gibbs, CEO | $24,706,462 | $17,160 | 1,505 to 1 | $57 |
| Total | $5,769 | ||||
Home Depot would have owed as much as $725 million more in 2024 taxes under this legislation. Like most of these companies, the home improvement giant can’t claim to be short on cash. Over the past six years, it’s blown nearly $38 billion on stock buybacks, a maneuver that artificially inflates a CEO’s stock-based pay. With the money it spent on buybacks, Home Depot could have given every one of its 470,100 employees six annual $13,423 bonuses.
Musk’s trillion-dollar pay package
Sanders pointed out that if Elon Musk receives the full $975 billion compensation package that Tesla’s board has proposed, Tesla could owe up to $100 billion more in taxes over the next decade under this legislation.
“The Pope is exactly right,” wrote Sanders in a social media post. “No society can survive when one man becomes a trillionaire while the vast majority struggle to just survive — trying to put food on the table, pay rent and afford health care. We can and must do better.”
“Working people are sick and tired of corporate greed,” Tlaib added in a release. “It’s disgraceful that corporations continue to rake in record profits by exploiting the labor of their workers. Every worker deserves a living wage and human dignity on the job.”
“Working people are sick and tired of corporate greed.”
Additional original co-sponsors of the bill include Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.; Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Peter Welch, D-Vt.; and Ed Markey, D-Mass., and 22 members of the House of Representatives.
Polling suggests that Americans across the political spectrum would support the bill. One 2024 survey found that 80% of likely voters favor a tax hike on corporations that pay their CEOs more than 50 times more than their median employees. The idea was supported by 89% of Democrats, 77% of independents and 71% of Republicans.
In these hyper-polarized times, Americans of diverse backgrounds, faiths, and political perspectives seem to share enormous common ground on at least one problem facing our nation: the extreme economic divides within our country’s largest corporations.
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