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The Imperial Way: American Decline in Perspective, Part 2Posted on Feb 16, 2012
By Noam Chomsky, TomDispatch (Page 4) It makes very good sense to try to prevent Iran from joining the nuclear weapons states, including the three that have refused to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty—Israel, India, and Pakistan, all of which have been assisted in developing nuclear weapons by the U.S., and are still being assisted by them. It is not impossible to approach that goal by peaceful diplomatic means. One approach, which enjoys overwhelming international support, is to undertake meaningful steps towards establishing a nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle East, including Iran and Israel (and applying as well to U.S. forces deployed there), better still extending to South Asia. Support for such efforts is so strong that the Obama administration has been compelled to formally agree, but with reservations: crucially, that Israel’s nuclear program must not be placed under the auspices of the International Atomic Energy Association, and that no state (meaning the U.S.) should be required to release information about “Israeli nuclear facilities and activities, including information pertaining to previous nuclear transfers to Israel.” Obama also accepts Israel’s position that any such proposal must be conditional on a comprehensive peace settlement, which the U.S. and Israel can continue to delay indefinitely. This survey comes nowhere near being exhaustive, needless to say. Among major topics not addressed is the shift of U.S. military policy towards the Asia-Pacific region, with new additions to the huge military base system underway right now, in Jeju Island off South Korea and Northwest Australia, all elements of the policy of “containment of China.” Closely related is the issue of U.S. bases in Okinawa, bitterly opposed by the population for many years, and a continual crisis in U.S.-Tokyo-Okinawa relations. Revealing how little fundamental assumptions have changed, U.S. strategic analysts describe the result of China’s military programs as a “classic ‘security dilemma,’ whereby military programs and national strategies deemed defensive by their planners are viewed as threatening by the other side,” writes Paul Godwin of the Foreign Policy Research Institute. The security dilemma arises over control of the seas off China’s coasts. The U.S. regards its policies of controlling these waters as “defensive,” while China regards them as threatening; correspondingly, China regards its actions in nearby areas as “defensive” while the U.S. regards them as threatening. No such debate is even imaginable concerning U.S. coastal waters. This “classic security dilemma” makes sense, again, on the assumption that the U.S. has a right to control most of the world, and that U.S. security requires something approaching absolute global control. Advertisement Quite the contrary. Both threats are ominous, and increasing. Noam Chomsky is Institute Professor emeritus in the MIT Department of Linguistics and Philosophy. He is the author of numerous best-selling political works. His latest books are “Making the Future: Occupations, Intervention, Empire, and Resistance,” “The Essential Chomsky” (edited by Anthony Arnove), a collection of his writings on politics and on language from the 1950s to the present, “Gaza in Crisis,” with Ilan Pappé, and “Hopes and Prospects,” also available as an audiobook. To listen to Timothy MacBain’s latest Tomcast audio interview in which Chomsky offers an anatomy of American defeats in the Greater Middle East, click here, or download it to your iPod here. Follow TomDispatch on Twitter @TomDispatch and join us on Facebook. Copyright 2012 Noam Chomsky
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By Sombrio, February 18, 2012 at 10:10 am Link to this comment
Here’s something to consider. What if Iran really doesn’t want to build a bomb? What if they realize like anybody with half a brain that Nuclear weapons though really scarey are quite useless in the field of conflict which is why they have only been used once in anger. Why would you waste all that effort on something that dumb especially if you’re in Iran’s situation. If your Iran maybe a nuclear power station is more to the point. And look how stupid eveybody’s going look if their nuclear program’s just turning out electricity.
Report thisPerhaps then there will be an international call to put some of these ‘World leaders’ on some kind of new medication.
By vector56, February 18, 2012 at 6:21 am Link to this comment
I agree with prisnersdilema; at this point it is all about “Controlling the Narrative”.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/27/1030526/-Controlling-The-Narrative?via=blog_744899
Context:
In the 50’s the CIA over threw the Democratically elected Mossadeq government in Iran at the request of a British company that now calls itself BP.
We installed a brutal Dictator (the Shah)who ruled with an iron for years until the his over throw by the Iranian people.
In the basement of the US/Iran embassy, the CIA plotted again to reinstate the Shah, and he ruled over the people for 10 more years until the Revolution of the Ayatollah Khomeini finally over threw this monster.
Americans were taken hostage by a group of Iranians and held for months to protest our interference in their country. None of the hostages were harmed.
We decided to turn our lap dog Sadam (at the time) loose on Iran. With our help (arms and intelligence) Sadam kill over a million Iranians.
During the Iran, Iraq War a US war ship shot down an Iranian “passenger” Air liner killing 200 plus of their citizens.
Add to this the covert actions going on in their country today by US Special forces, CIA and Mossad; the killing of their scientist is there any doubt of who the “bad guys” are?
Lybia, Syria and Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran what we are living through is the “Re-Colonization” of the Middle East.
Report thisBy prisnersdilema, February 17, 2012 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment
In the weeks and months ahead, as the plutocracy prepares for the slaughter in Iran.
You will be witness, to a constant rain of hysteria by their corporate owned media
outlets.
In addition you willl see a concerted effort to inhibit free speach, and intimidate or shut
down internet sites, that offer alternative views of the plutocracys efforts to rain down
helll on Iran.
This has already begun.
If these efforts succeed this country will enter a dark time unlike any in our history, filled
with paranoia, lies and suspicion.
These acts are desperate ones, for they know their days are ending.
Report thisBy MeHere, February 17, 2012 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment
Great article by N. Chomsky.
The paragraph at the top of the 4th page is confusing though. He states that it makes good sense to prevent Iran from having nuclear weapons. He goes on to suggest that a peaceful alternative towards achieving that goal may be to promote the establishment of a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East and beyond. Does this mean that all other countries with nuclear weapons would be allowed to keep their arsenals? Who will buy this? I don’t get it. Only a full international ban has any value.
Report thisBy balkas, February 17, 2012 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
of course, every people and each land actually should expand its
Report thisinfluence in all other lands.
some of the expanding iranian influences/strivings i indeed welcome;
others, i do not. i also strongly reject its cult and its godologists.
however, i respect the universal right of a people to posses arms that its
neighboring or far-away countries posses.
this is an universal right and not just an UK, french, russian, chinese,
indian et al’s right.
By David J. Cyr, February 17, 2012 at 7:06 am Link to this comment
QUOTE, Noam Chomsky:
“the primary threat to the U.S. and Israel is that Iran might deter their free exercise of violence.”
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Yes, a nuclear armed Iran is “dangerous” because it threatens to end the resource wars of aggression that the corporate party’s Republicans and Democrats keep voting together for.
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Report thisBy balkas, February 17, 2012 at 7:03 am Link to this comment
NC is correct in noting that to europeans a settler is a settler; settling
Report thiseither an ‘empty land’ or inhabited by ‘uncivilized’, ‘unproductive’,
‘uncultured’ people or just plain “savages”.
however, praise for that discovery not be just to chomsky; many people
have over centuries noted that also! however, he, nevertheless, has my
thanks for putting that on paper. thanks
By balkas, February 17, 2012 at 6:47 am Link to this comment
NC: “christian zionism in UK and US long preceded jewish zionism”.
Report thisas far as zionism in US goes, it is not older than four centuries. ashkenazic, and thus
nonjewish, zionism, probably began in e. europe in tenth century.
and indentifying british zionism with jewish [or is it actually sephardic, ashkenazic] zionism,
appears also a misevaluation.
NC also omits to mention and evaluate communist zionism [land theft and what it had done
against palestinians or even real jews.
but even the label “zionism” is a huge ruse. the label suggest that it is a kind of an ideology
and a valid or even holy one; while in fact ashkenazim [and thousand yrs later joined by real
shemites] wanted to oust palestinians and rob them of their ancestral habitat in which they
may have lived continuously for at least 10 millennia. thanks, bozhidar balkas, planet moon
[the hell with earth!!]
By balkas, February 17, 2012 at 6:16 am Link to this comment
about NC’s “israeli-palestine conflict”? this label misrepresents reality.
Report thisfacts prove that until, say, ‘22 there was no conflict between palestine and israel.
israel ceased to exist ca 825bc and since israel was not reestablished and recognized until ‘48 we cannot then
label the relationship palestine-israel conflict.
the fact that all communist and nearly all fascists lands recognized israel and thus rewarded war criminals with a
state of their own, shows NC’s label as a vast illusion.
yes, there were clashes between indigenes and european invaders even before UK got the mandate to rule
palestinians, but the conflict itself was actually between christo-talmudo-world jewry world and the arab world.
even today, the label christojudean-arab conflict appears by far more accurate/adequate than calling the
relationship “israeli-palestine” conflict.
NC, of course, thinks, as a smart zionist ought to think. it involves much halftruthing, inadequacy, and inaccuracy
in reporting the actualities.
‘religion’ was always a big factor in setting up israel by violent means, but i do no recall NC ever mentioning this
factor!
and if you leave out just that one factor and actual actors of the crimes perped against palestinians, then you’d be
misrepresenting harsh reality in palestine.
By Bobi6, February 16, 2012 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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Excellent, excellent. Chomsky does it again. His clear thinking and
Report thiswriting would be a revelation to conservatives who never read him
because he was vilified by the right. What a shame. The other problem
for modern, internet users is that it is probably too long for their internet
soaked brains. (Mine too.) These two articles explain so much and reveal
what our foreign policy is really about. The more I learn the more I am
convinced that the United States is the most corrupt country in history.
We are a tragic nation. I wonder if we will survive especially with the
enormous political donations being collected now. When people give
millions they expect the president and congress to strictly follow their
instructions. One instruction from a Wyoming guy who gave $10M to the
current GOP frontrunner is that we should allow Israel to bomb Iran. Who
could believe that but it’s true. Perhaps we are very close to the
reckoning - whatever that means.
By Sombrio, February 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm Link to this comment
Thank you Mr Chomsky for putting things into perspective, once again. Though you don’t go into directly about the religous guys, is their need to fulfill their prophocies. I might suggest that it is such seductive quest that it might be the prime motivator behind centuries of Imperialist policies.
Report thisTo think that a conscious effort has been made to create the conditions to be saved by the Messiah or the return of the Messiah or the victory of the Madhi or whatever is so incomprehensible that one must dismiss it as the thoughts of the insane.
However could it be possible?
Certainly the brave and beautiful work of Noam Chomsky makes you wonder, though the revealing knowledge in these perspectives is that it’s really all for the money, two for the show and assisted suicide on a global scale.
By gerard, February 16, 2012 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment
Almost nobody with a brain believes the Muashar Doctrine that nothing is wrong and everything is under control these days. The problems standing in the way of action are what is at issue:
Report thisWhat to do? How best to do it?
Occupy has made two wise indications toward solution:
Move away from radical capitalism and toward a more conservative liberalism (to mix everybody up and move all of us toward a more democratic open space).
Conservative? Yes, in the sense that capitalism has become so violent, so out of control that it should now be thought of as a radical economic system. Its root ideas such as “more is bettter” better” “the sky’s the limit” “money is power” and ‘He who dies with the most toys, wins” have to be modified, humanized, taken down from their place of dominance as accepted principles of operation.
And replaced with a key idea more conservative of human and environmental life, such as “enough is enough”, “less is more”, “money is incapable of justice”, “fairness is worth more than wealth”,
“democracy depends on conserving resources of all kinds for public benefit” etc. etc.
In other words, moving away from a wildly radical system called “unrestrained capitalismm” or “too big to fail” to something more practical like “too kind to kill”, “economics with a human face” etc. Someone someplace will find a better catch phrase, but you get the idea because you already know what I mean.