#91962 by Leefeller on 8/03 at 9:03 am
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Good words, and you haven’t posted a lot lately yourself.  Like me, maybe your tired.  This work must be picked up and carried by the young or we’re cooked, yes?

The democratic republic sponsored by our founding fathers, has been diminished and continues to be destroyed by special interests, big money and a mass media, all of whom have one goal in mind, money, power and control. 

Constant chipping and hammering by lobbyist’s sponsored by special interest selling personal agendas, have bought and sold most of our representatives in congress and the White House is a given.  Congress represents itself to the highest bidder, the people be damned.

The new order, governments without borders or in the works,  we have seen this being developed for big business, using the WTO and Nafta.  What is happening to the little people without power or wealth, as it has always been, they are cannon fodder for the wars of the elite.

Our founding fathers fought for what they believed in, they put their lives, the lives of their families on the line for what they believed to be a new idea of government.  We have regressed back to a lopsided government, the balance of power has diminished, where corporations have more rights than individuals, the robber barrons are back.

Ignorance and apathy is key in our loss of liberty. People are expendable to uncompassionate governments and leaders, it goes on.

Only if we elect real people, people who care about people, people with fresh ideas not status quo, maybe a change could take place. Otherwise we are doomed to continue with the undermining our founding fathers new ideas for government.

Yup. However, we are not necessarily in the “last days of Democracy.” It may be already gone, which will show in about the next 10 years. I don’t hold hope. The damage of the current administration, corporate society, and branches of government is pervasive.

Re: #91910 by ardee… “I believe that the vast majority of Americans are well intentioned and decent folks.”

IMHO the current forefront of Americans are complacent and ambivalent, self-serving and ignorant of social issues. This primarily reflects the age groups of the 80’s and 90’s.

Then we have the age groups of the 60’s and 70’s, the ones of the days of activism in this country. Those who did sell out because they became disillusioned and overwhelmed probably won’t want to return to “rocking the boat” and the others that are still trying to hold on to the fight are up against time moving forward.

We have another new generation moving into power. Look at high school and college student ages. They are influenced by technology and the push toward math and science, not philosophy, sociology, or any of the other social educational subjects that move a society forward.

Will we be run by a nation of corporate geeks???

And those young people moving into the voting age won’t know how to take care of themselves, how to think for themselves, and will be more than willing to sacrifice “freedom” for status quo with respect to a safe and comfortable daily life. What concerns me about that is that human life itself becomes minimized to yield to the illusional “good of the whole” (which is really an abstract and illusion). They simply won’t know any better.

How better to defeat any nation or society than to make them unable to think independently, generate their own food and goods, or the many other facets of an independent and self supporting society.

And I can think of several nations right now that have the means and are moving toward the ability to defeat this country ... probably without a shot fired.

Let’s wait and see.

#91870 by B Keith on 8/02 at 10:13 pm

B Keith,

This is obviously a rush transcript, and people don’t generally speak in interviews, as they would in an essay or other scholastic analysis.

So, you may have been able to understand it better if you’d listened and read, or even just listened.

Just a thought.

I have been active ,politically, for over forty years, since becoming politicized in Viet Nam. During that time my smallish group has engaged in many political actions, the most successful of which were always locally focussed. We found, through trial and error, that building bridges to the community through such devices as assisting in the building and maintenance of child care centers, senior centers, enrolling the elderly in programs, and voter registration drives was the way to gain support for our programs.

I prefaced my following remarks to give background to my views. I believe that Democracy is far stronger than many others seem to feel. I believe that the vast majority of Americans are well intentioned and decent folks. I also believe that politics is secondary in their lives, unlike so many here. The failures of our system can be laid solely at the door of the influence of money in politics.

The Democratic Party , in using the DLC as a hound dog actively seeking corporate campaign fundings from precisely those who have stolen our processes, has abrogated its responsibility and negated its track record.

The reason so many despair is precisely because Democrats focus on boardrooms and not classrooms and communities. I have little doubt that this will change, albeit rather slowly. It may not be the Demcorats who lead us from this wilderness but we will find the end eventually.

I’m in total agreement cyrena.  Really makes you wonder just what Murdoch has got up his sleeve.  We have to retain control of the internet.  Right now the internet IS democracy and our most reasonable source for truth and inquiry.  And boy do they want it.

Excellent. Excellent. This is what we need to know. Or, there are still many of us that need to know this stuff, specfically about what WE can do, as ordinary citizens.