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Live Chat: Robert Scheer on Obama and Big Business (Update: Video)

Posted on Jul 15, 2010

(Page 3)

11:41 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:41:58 GMT

 OK, time for one more ...

11:42 Question From Guest
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:42:03 GMT
Comment: Bob: Again, big fan from “With Enough Shovels” days. What does it say about Obama that he appoints Liz Fowler to be administering his health care program. I think he’s actually working hard to be a one-term president.

11:42 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:42:56 GMT

 (That’s the last question for Bob, but stick around if you have more to say.)

11:44 Comment From Guest
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:44:09 GMT
Comment: Politico commentary today included that Obama has failed to mesh with D.C. politics—much like Jimmy Carter. I find this analysis less than rigorous. Carter entered office as an anti-politician; Obama entered office as a politician claiming to change the status quo.


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11:44 nyctech via twitter
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:44:21 GMT

 RT @Sami_Shamieh Thanks to Obama, banks are repossessing US homes at a record pace #tcot #p2

11:44 Comment From Richard Nixon
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:44:22 GMT
Comment: I agree with Turd Furgeson that most people don’t know what they’re doing when they vote, especially young people. I think many people thought they were doing the right thing voting for Obama in ’08, because of his speeches and his media image, but the real truth is he got paid more by corporations and won.

11:44 kennethjjones via twitter
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:44:39 GMT

 Over 1 MILLION foreclosures in 2010. How’s THAT for “consumer confidence”? People without jobs don’t buy homes. OBAMA; SPREADIN’ THE PAIN!

11:45 mkhouck via twitter
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:45:53 GMT

 RT @whitehouse: Electric Vehicles, Advanced Batteries, and American Jobs: Why the President is in Holland, Michigan

11:47 paulbakersr via twitter
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:47:22 GMT

 @ShortyGotSpunk Have you looked at the national unemployment rate lately? Applying for work doesn’t always work.

11:48 The_Juice1040 via twitter
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:48:50 GMT

 U got $10 billion, u can either give it to 2.5 million people who are unemployed as unemployment, or you can turn it into 100,000 jobs...

11:50 Robert Scheer
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:50:56 GMT

 (To Guest) I think Obama is falling into the trap that Jimmy Carter fell into, that destroyed him. Both were elected because they seemed to have a populace instinct, they were for the little guy and could feel his pain, and then when they get in, they turn to the big shots that have ignored the little guy to run their government. And it speaks to a basic insecurity of their own values. I cannot understand why Obama, who in Copper Union, ’08,  blasted the radical deregulation of the Clinton era, has not been able to reverse that. I don’t understand why Obama, who talked about the suffering of people, has cared more, like the Republicans, about Wall Street than Main Street. There only was second term through opportunism, and they don’t and we’re not in a situation where we can budget. They are hurting people, 3/4ths of Americans want to replace people who speak for them. They don’t trust anyone. We can all talk about the stock market, how it went up or down, but if you take people like Paul Krugman, they are warning about a great depression, they know real income has not improved in a decade, a country talking about life getting better and the Wall Street Journal… Market Watch recently had a good report (which we linked to on Truthdig) which said real wage is not just about this recession, it was happening from Clinton on. We have had growing wealth of the upper 1 percent mostly, a little more for the upper 10 percent, but the rest of the population haven’t been doing well and not, because of the recession aren’t doing well. And the idiocy of not being able to extend unemployment benefits, which is you get the best bang for your buck if you give it to somebody who is out of work, they’re going to spend it to create jobs for other people and instead we give it to Wall Street, who do nothing for the people. We focused on the stimulus program, the bailouts, and so forth but no attention has been paid to the biggest give by Obama, 1.25 trillion dollars of toxic, mostly bad mortgage packages that the Fed, using public funds and public obligation, bought. And the Fed is not holding responsibility for what the banks packaged, sold, knew that they were crummy, would melt and explode, were toxic, but they’re not holding it, that was taken off their books by the Feds. When you look at what they have done to create jobs is basically feather their own nest.

11:51 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:17 GMT

 (That was in response to the With Enough Shovels fan)

11:51 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:23 GMT

 Thanks, Bob, see you next week.

11:51 Comment From Richard Nixon
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:32 GMT
Comment: Thanks, Bob.

11:51 Robert Scheer
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:45 GMT

 Thanks everyone, see you next week.

11:51 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:48 GMT

 And to the chat, we’ll post your questions and comments shortly.

11:51 Comment From John Simms
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:51:53 GMT
Comment: Ryan Blatz spoke of returning humanitarian values to the top of the messaging of the Democratic Party. My belief is that part of what is keeping us from doing this (as Progressives and Liberals) is moral relativism; we tend to be tolerant of intolerance. Is our solution to call hate “hate” when appropriate?

11:52 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:10 GMT

 Thanks. Everyone make sure to follow us on and

11:52 Comment From Richard Nixon
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:14 GMT
Comment: Kenneth Jones is mad his Republican team isn’t in office because it would be the same results.

11:52 Comment From WSmart
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:17 GMT
Comment: You can’t have your cake and eat it too, Robert. Obama is supporting mulch-nationals or he isn’t. The mule-nationals are moving jobs overseas.  And yes, India and China are fine examples of dirt cheap labor and human rights—what’s that?

11:52 Comment From Kawika
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:22 GMT
Comment: Mr. Nixon and Furgeson, it’s a dangerous path; the contemplation of removing citizens’ right to vote because of one person’s view of the correct political path.

11:52 Comment From Turd Furgeson
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:25 GMT
Comment: Many thanks, Bob.

11:52 Comment From Richard Nixon
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:33 GMT
Comment: Are there any 3rd party candidates you have gotten behind in the past or would get behind in the future? What is your take on Nader?

11:52 Comment From WSmart
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:37 GMT
Comment: Not unless it involves getting Nader into the debates in 2012. The duopoly likes free money. Be real, be sober.

11:52 Comment From mtk
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:52:40 GMT
Comment: Is there likely to be greater oversight of the banks? Does the Obama Plan establish new or strengthen existing oversight of banks’ practices? Does it for example take into consideration the moral outrage of the public at the derivatives market scandal of AIG? Does it respond to public distaste for the liberation of the banks resulting from leaving Glass-Steagall restrictions in any punitive way?

11:53 Truthdig
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:53:08 GMT

 We’re turning off the delay so your chat will soon be live!

11:54 Comment From Turd Furgeson
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:54:31 GMT
Comment: Kawika—I would change nothing about an individual’s right to vote. But I would attempt to dissuade anyone from voting when they know nothing about the politicians up for elections, or politics in general.

11:59 Comment From WSmart
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:59:14 GMT
Comment: In today’s culture, if you don’t vote, you don’t exist, and it doesn’t surprise me that we have small-minded people dissuading others from existing. Live responsibly and please don’t drink and breathe.

11:59 Comment From Turd Furgeson
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:59:41 GMT
Comment: Generally speaking, when one knows nothing about the politicians in an elections, they simply go along with who they perceive to be the most popular campaign.  Or they will simply go along with what their peers are doing, without any thought.

12:01 Comment From Turd Furgeson
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:01:41 GMT
Comment: Instead of corporations simply telling people to vote, wouldn’t you rather see them telling people to get educated on the most important political topics or that time, or on the politicians they’re being pressured into mindlessly voting for?

12:15 Comment From WSmart
Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:15:45 GMT
Comment: If you don’t vote, you don’t exist, and if you vote for the two-party system, you also pretty much don’t exist because both parties have the same policies. That’s like voting but at the same time you didn’t vote, having your cake and eating it too (We tried! We tried so hard! God knows we tried!). And what’s worse than having Palin as president or losing the election? Ask Michael Moore.

Thanks all!



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By Dave Tonetti, July 17, 2010 at 12:46 am Link to this comment
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Hello Bob et al.,
I appreciate the opportunity to listen to this and even moreso, appreciate your insights into contemporary America. It was touched upon, but I really think the point needs to be hammered and that is simply this; America is totally screwing itself with this hell bent for leather militarization. It is absolutely insane the amount of money that is granted to the military (and private for-profit military contractors), and the military industrial complex, especially as America’s infrastructure goes further and further into decay. The militarization of American society will be its demise, like every empire preceding it. Sad not to learn anything from history.

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By freelyb, July 16, 2010 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

Voting third party soon.

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By archivesDave, July 16, 2010 at 2:06 am Link to this comment

Bob, shame on you, giving a ‘B’ to this dismal financial bill.
Webster Tarpley would give it an ‘F’ and here’s why:

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By Richard Nixon, July 15, 2010 at 11:28 pm Link to this comment
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In response to Kawika who said “Mr. Nixon and Furgeson, it’s a dangerous
path; the contemplation of removing citizens’ right to vote because of one
person’s view of the correct political path.”

Sorry I bailed a little early on the chat or I would have responded. Yes I know
that it is dangerous to do this and never would suggest it. I’m just saying I see
most people as uneducated when it comes to voting (in terms of who/what
they are actually voting for), don’t vote for the real person they want, don’t
know enough about 3rd party candidates to know if they would actually want
them or not. Even though I think this, I still think everyone should have a
chance to vote.

I just don’t know what to do about it. This is probably why Nader wants more
media because he sees that mainstream media basically takes the two
candidates and shows the majority of the U.S. that this is what they have to
support. There are no other options and if you want to support those other
options what is the point because there are only these two.

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