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Live Chat: Robert Scheer on Clinton Nostalgia

Posted on Aug 5, 2010

(Page 3)

11:40 Truthdig

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:40:22 GMT


 Last question from Docpm: “Wasn’t all this dereg started by Carter?? with Raygun (Reagan) accelerating it in earnest? long before Barnaby Bill spun his dastardly deeds and pardoned everyone later?”


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11:41 ginaswo via twitter

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:41:22 GMT


 RT @latimestot: Letterman: Ex-pres Clinton grew very emotional during Chelsea’s wedding. Once during the vows and again when they ran out of buffalo wings.

11:42 chandlerepp via twitter

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:42:41 GMT


 @kenblackwell: Failure of ’94 GOP Revolution is that we campaigned like Reagan then governed like Carter #tcot #ncsc10

11:43 Truthdig

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:43:08 GMT


 (Note: Bob is working on the last couple questions, but stick around after, we’ll open up the chat for freer discussion.)

11:43 OldeCountry via twitter

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:43:37 GMT


 RT @sunshineejc: NATIONAL DEBT INCREASES~Carter 42%~Reagan 189%~Bush 55%~Clinton 36%~WBush 89%~~WHERE IS THE #GOP FISCAL CONSERVATISM?~#P2 #tlot #dems #sgp

11:44 Robert Scheer

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:44:01 GMT


 It is true that Carter, playing the role of the deliberate centrist, embraced notions of deregulation as part of the betrayal of wonderful FDR policy, but he didn’t get anywhere with this and he faced economic problems because of the oil. The Reagan revolution is called that because he had been campaigning about this and getting the government off people’s backs. He honed this message when he was a spokesperson for General Electrics and when he became president he continued to do just that. He believed that what’s good for GE is good for Americans. He did appoint Wendy Gramm, Phil Gramm’s wife, head of the Commodities Trading Commissions, and she did a lot of damage, but it was Clinton who put through radical deregulation of our financial community, our conglomerates, and that is the source of our problems. 

11:44 Comment From erniesfo

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:44:10 GMT

Comment: EJK: Unfortunately, the historical record shows that Kennedy’s policies were more consistent than divergent with those of his predecessors.

11:44 Comment From napoleon

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:44:12 GMT

Comment: What do you think of the 9/11 responders bill not being passed?

11:45 Comment From napoleon

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:45:23 GMT

Comment: Why do you think the mainstream media refuses to talk about Clinton’s hand in the economic collapse?

11:45 AndresFGuevaraB via twitter

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:45:23 GMT


 Governor Reagan beat President Jimmy Carter in Massachusetts by 2,421 votes.

11:52 Robert Scheer

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:52:34 GMT


 Because it’s the hand that feeds him. First of all, when we talk about mainstream media, it’s owned by the same people who caused this whole problem. I was reading the papers of these regulations which were affecting the owners of the L.A. Times, where I worked for 30 years, and it looks like Morgan Chase is going to own that one. When we talk about the mass media, we are talking about the same hedge funds that wanted this radical deregulation, and I don’t want to be accused of over-promoting my book, “The Great American Stickup,” but I do have a chapter on the L.A. Times and how they were cheerleading in terms of their news reporting that it was a matter of common sense, they saw no controversy in it, and it was something that the owners of mass media pushed very extraneously. I attended a few of those hearings and found that there was very little interest in critical coverings of these [proceedings]. Bills were written by lobbyists to serve the interests of corporations who paid them and the mass media embraced it. For example the Tribune Corporation needed the deregulation because they wanted to own newspapers and [TV] channels in the same [market]. To have one columnist to challenge them was too much for them and I suspect the story is the same throughout all media. And what we call “investigative reporting” is investigative reporting that does not affect the mass media who are paying for them. That’s why it’s good to have independent outlets like Truthdig, as long as we can figure out a way to keep financing it, so send money. If you feel like it, send us a contribution to help support independent reporting. 

11:52 Truthdig

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:52:45 GMT


 Thanks Bob, thanks everyone!

11:52 Robert Scheer

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:52:54 GMT


 Thanks a lot for chatting and let’s do it again next week!

11:52 Truthdig

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:52:56 GMT


 We’ll open up the chat for live free discussion.

11:53 Comment From Sean

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:53:01 GMT

Comment: Is it possible to even revive a “real” left in America? It appears that the majority American public lacks any real value of democratic ideals. People suffer from extreme apathy and eschew politics as “boring”. How can a populace so divided come to any rational conclusion without free press? The press being owned by the oligarchy has its own agenda, which is not in line with democracy. Politicians are no longer practicing, or even appearing to practice, disinterestedness. It is very hard to find hope with all that assails democracy right now.

11:53 Comment From erniesfo

Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:53:03 GMT

Comment: Re winning hearts and minds - during Vietnam it even became an Army handbook acronym: WHAM. We can’t sound peaceful even when we “try”.

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By MeHere, August 6, 2010 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

“I’m not ready to give up on Obama,” Mr. Scheer says.

I just wonder when do you think it might be the right time to give up on Obama.
We know how he got to power, we know about the corrupt party he chose to run
with, and we know about some of the decisions he’s made.  Would it be the right
time to give up 10 years from now when it all becomes merely interesting history?
This is not the right kind of political analysis.

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By Richard Nixon, August 6, 2010 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

Was this even announced? I didn’t see any ads for it or I would have tried to get on
for it?

Also how would people feel about disabling the twitter feed during it? I think it
makes a little more confusing and none of it seems to be relevant.

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By exo, August 6, 2010 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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“Well first of all, I am not ready to give up on Obama.”—Robert Scheer

Attacking Bill Clinton is helpful in cases of avoidance and denial isn’t it?
The above comment lacks of the courage conviction not too mention
intellectual consistency.

Arguably there is not much of a difference between Obama and Clinton, both
worship at the alter of corporate interests, yet according to your impassioned
piece, it is Clinton alone who must be erased, if not purged from national
memory. The language reserved for Clinton of punishment, suppression,
removal, cauterizing, is all rather unpleasant and scarily matter of factly
authoritarian. How easily this language drips from Robert Scheer’s pen. I don’t
know where this screed leads. How does this directly help the progressive
cause?  I would not trust anyone left or right prone to such emotional, almost
ritualized vengefulness. I also think it is simply mean spirited to use someone’s
daughter as a foil to make a political point. The ends justifies the means is
rarely a good model to follow. It always ends in tears for all concerned.

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