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Last week, more than three years after be became president, he finally came up with what he calls a new economic program.  It is his fifth new economic program in 3 1/2 years.  He talks as if someone else has been in charge these past few years.  With two months to go until the election, he rides to the rescue now with a crazy-quilt of obvious election-year promises which he’ll ask Congress for—next year.  After three years of neglect, the misery of unemployment, inflation, high taxes, dwindling earning power and inability to save—after all this, American workers have now been discovered by this administration.

Well, it won’t work.  It is cynical.  It is political.  And it is too late.  The damage is done and every American family knows who did it.

In 1976 he said he would never use unemployment as an economic tool to fight inflation.  In 1980 he called for an increase in unemployment—to fight inflation.

In 1976 he said he would bring unemployment and inflation down to 3 percent.

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Who can believe him?  Unemployment is now around 8 percent, inflation is 12 1/2.

And most of us have begun to realize that so long as Carter policies are in effect, the next four years will be as dark as the last four.

But here, beside the torch that many times before in our nation’s history has cast a golden light in times of gloom, I pledge to you I’ll bring a new message of hope to all America.

I look forward to meeting Mr. Carter in debate, confronting him with the whole sorry record of his administration—the record he prefers not to mention.  If he ever finally agrees to the kind of first debate the American people want—which I’m beginning to doubt—he’ll answer to them and to me.

This country needs a new administration, with a renewed dedication to the dream of America—an administration that will give that dream new life and make America great again.

Restoring and revitalizing that dream will take bold action.

On this day, dedicated to American working men and women, may I tell you the vision I have of a new administration and of a new Congress, filled with new members dedicated to the values we honor today?

Beginning in January of 1981, American workers will once again be heeded.  Their needs and values will be acted upon in Washington.  I will consult with representatives of organized labor on those matters concerning the welfare of the working people of this nation.

I happen to be the only president of a union ever to be a candidate for president of the United States.

As president of my union—the Screen Actors Guild—I spent many hours with the late George Meany, whose love of this country and whose belief in a strong defense against all totalitarians is one of labor’s greatest legacies.  One year ago today on Labor Day,  George Meany told the American people: “As American workers and their families return from their summer vacations, they face growing unemployment and inflation, a climate of economic anxiety and uncertainty.”

Well, I pledge to you in his memory that the voice of the American worker will once again be heeded in Washington and that the climate of fear that he spoke of will no longer threaten workers and their families.

When we talk about tax reduction, when we talk about ending inflation by stopping it where it starts—in Washington—we are talking about a way to bring labor and management together for America.  We are talking about jobs and productivity and wages.  We are talking about doing away with Jimmy Carter’s view of a no-growth policy, and ever-shrinking economic pie with smaller pieces for each of us.

That’s no answer.  We can have a bigger pie with bigger slices for everyone.  I believe that together you and I can bake that bigger pie.  We can make that dream that brought so many of us or our parents and grandparents to this land live once more.

Let us work to protect the human right to acquire and own a home, and make sure that that right is extended to as many Americans as possible.  A home is part of that dream.

I want to work in Washington to roll back the crushing burden of taxation that limits investment, production, and the generation of real wealth for our people.  A job, and savings, and hope for our children is part of that dream.

I want to help Americans of every race, creed and heritage keep and build that sense of community which is at the heart of America, for a decent neighborhood is part of that dream.

We will work to strengthen the small-business sector which creates most of the new jobs we need for our people.  Small business needs relief from government paperwork, relief from over-regulation, relief from a host of governmentally created problems that defeat the effort of creative men and women.  A chance to invest, build and produce new wealth is part of the dream.

But restoring the American dream requires more than restoring a sound, productive economy, vitally important as that is.  It requires a return to spiritual and moral values, values so deeply held by those who came here to build a new life.  We need to restore those values in our daily life, in our neighborhoods and in our government’s dealings with the other nations of the world.

These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland. The values that have inspired other dissidents under communist domination.  They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost.  They remind us that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.  You and I must protect and preserve freedom here or it will not be passed on to our children.  Today the workers in Poland are showing a new generation not how high is the price of freedom, but how much it is worth that price.

I want more than anything I’ve ever wanted to have an administration that will, through its actions, at home and in the international arena, let millions of people know that Miss Liberty still “lifts her lamp beside the golden door.”  Through our international broadcasting stations—the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and the others—let us send, loud and clear, the message that this generation of Americans intends to keep that lamp shining; that this dream, this last best hope of man on Earth, this nation under God, shall not perish from the Earth.  We will instead carry on the building of an American economy that once again holds forth real opportunity for all, we shall continue to be a symbol of freedom and guardian of the eternal values that so inspired those who came to this port of entry.

Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we can, and so help us God, we will make America great again.


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By JM237, March 31, 2011 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment
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In the below quoted statement I see you left “Hollywood Stars” out. They’re up to it in being Rich and employ no one when demanding their millions. Sure Hollywood employs many folks, So why aren’t the stars offering their millions up like you want CEO’s to. And I’m sorry, making a token donation, creating a foundation or visiting kids in some third world country isn’t the same as what you ask of CEO’s here. When I see an actor making public servant wages for creating something no one needs, I’ll buy it.

“If these billionaires and millionaires really care so much about our society, then why don’t they simply
contribute the extra hundreds of millions of dollars
to alleviate the suffering. In this way, there would
be no need for ‘big’ government. Just as Mark Twain
told us a century ago how our Congress was “THE BEST
THAT MONEY COULD BUY,” why don’t these ultra-rich
simply buy smaller government?

In other words, if these folks want so much to
eliminate governmental services for the needy, they
can do so VERY EASILY. Using their own hordes of
funds, they can simply create their own massive,
PRIVATE SERVICES to attend to the needy. The
government could then, painlessly, cut the budgets as
much as they want it to! They could even, then, be
‘doubly exempt’ from taxes!!! The Kochs are stupidly
using their money to maintain BIG government - if you
(and other CEOs, and Buffets, and Gates, and…) pool
together several hundreds of millions of dollars, you
can eliminate BIG GOVERNMENT or the need for any
governmental functions. Do for American society what
the original Hershey (founder of Hershey,
Pennsylvania) did for his workers, and we will not
need governmental subsidies! Our government will be
the best that your money can buy, with a wonderful
society thrown in as an added bonus!!”

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By mrfreeze, March 16, 2011 at 2:25 am Link to this comment

Call Me Roy - They’re called anti-depressants…....start taking them…....

......crickets…....

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By call me roy, March 15, 2011 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

Commie Fest

AFL-CIO
The American Federation of Labor – Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) is the largest labor federation in America, consisting of 57 autonomous and international unions. For decades, under the leadership of George Meany and Lane Kirkland, this entity was a bastion of anti-communism. In fact, Meany invited Alexandre Solzhenitsyn to speak at AFL-CIO meetings and brought awareness of Soviet human rights abuses to U.S. audiences. Kirkland, for his part, used his power to funnel more than $6 million in aid to Polish workers — aid that was instrumental in Solidarity’s successful effort to end 50 years of Communist Party rule in Poland. But after Lane Kirkland’s retirement in 1995, John Sweeney became president of the AFL-CIO and was able to repeal an AFL-CIO rule prohibiting Communists from being leaders of its member unions. Abandoning the blue-color industrial unionism of the past, Sweeney, a member of Democratic Socialists of America, was instrumental in remaking labor into a movement of the Left. With George Meany heading the AFL-CIO, the New Left saw the labor movement as what it termed a reactionary institution, in which workers supported the very forces that oppressed them, leaving the forces of change emanating only from the black underclass the “lumpenproletariat” in Marxist jargonand students who were their natural allies. But today’s Left went back in inspiration to the 1930s, and like the Communists and Socialists of that era, once again sought to forge a new partnership between student radicals and the labor movement. Their hopes broadened once Lane Kirkland’s post-Meany leadership dissolved, and the AFL-CIO went into the hands of John Sweeney and his associates, who staffed the upper echelons of the new staff positions with graduates of the 60s Left.

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By realveive, March 14, 2011 at 8:09 pm Link to this comment

When Ronnie got his hands on the controls of our ship of state he put it into the start of its downward glide path.  Unless someone grabs hold and changes that descent we’re gonna crash.  I used to think Obama could/would do it but obviously that ain’t gonna happen.  He isn’t “change we can believe in”, he’s “same old, same old”.  We are very close to RIP USA.

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By Jim Yell, March 14, 2011 at 11:22 am Link to this comment
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The right wing is WRONG.

Bush (baby Bush) lied us into an invasion of the wrong country and then didn’t bother to raise a War Tax, something that has never before happened in this country. We still don’t have a War Tax because the past Democratic Administrations have largely followed in the surrender of the country to International Corporations. The same that have engineered the fall of American Industry and the rolling back of what little social equality we have gained in the last 75 years.

The bankruptcy of the American middle class was also engineered by the right wing, while pushing ever greater tax relief for the mega rich. At lest if we had social programs some of the damage done by the ignorant Right Wing might be mitigated.

Talk about False Profits.

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By drunkfoulmouthfilthybeast, March 14, 2011 at 10:23 am Link to this comment

I remember vividly what Reagan was wearing when he exercied his freedom of speach, matter of fact all RethugliCONS were wearing these fashionable pants specially ordered by the GOP, “fire resistant asbestos intertwined with fire retardant threads.” I noticed this when I first heard the phrase: “Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!!”

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By Inherit The Wind, March 13, 2011 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment

Notice that the Die Hard Wannabe’s McCarthy list of supposed “Socialists” in Congress includes EVERY SINGLE PROMINENT BLACK CONGRESSMAN OR WOMAN!  Now tell me the right-wing-nuts aren’t racist!

Wannabe’s history is screwy…
“Flash back to about 1975 or so. Jimmy Carter makes nice with Trujillo and apologizes for US control of the Panama Canal before cutting it loose.”
Carter wasn’t President until 1977…And access to the Canal (which was obsolete 30 years ago) is STILL controlled by the US.  Nobody gets in or out without our OK.

“Whether you were 7 or 47, who could forget it? Gasoline lines. “

That would be 1973 and 74…The President’s name was “Nixon”, not “Carter”.

“Jimmy Carter praises Ceaucescu in Romania as a stable leader “we can do business with”. Jimmy Carter believes we can work with the Russian leaders, as we start unilaterally disarming our nuke arsenal. And Jimmy Carter snuggles up to the Chinese, giving them tours of our auto factories. With a Greek chorus of fate (and a few advisors stage right, chanting, “No, Jimmy, don’t do it! No Jimmy don’t do it.””

Let me see…Ceausescu had at least another decade in power, and WAS a stable dictator, more stable than the Shah. Of course you forget the pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein.  As for the Chinese?  I think it was that same feller “Nixon” who opened up China.

But China’s economic explosion didn’t happen ‘till Reagan signed into law a tax bill that gave US companies a tax BREAK for opening factories in China (as a “3rd World Nation”).

Actually, despite Wannabe’s “Faux News History”, Carter put us on the road to economic recovery, despite Reagan’s attempts to sink it.  Now we learn that the hostage crisis was drawn out longer than it needed to be because….Reagan and his advisers cut a secret, illegal, and downright treasonable deal with the Ayattolah and his gang to help him win the Presidency by continuing the embarrassment of Carter—and the result? It was called Iran/Contra!

It simply saddens and terrifies me that so many Americans share Wannabe’s warped false and flatly racist view of a fantasy history of the USA that never happened.

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By mrfreeze, March 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment

Call Me Roy…...

.........crickets…............

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By call me roy, March 13, 2011 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment

mrfreeze, wow, you are so popular, here is another article about you’re friends.

If you’ve wondered how America could have changed so fast the past two years that it’s become almost unrecognizable, wonder no more. The Socialist Party of America released a list of seventy United States legislators serving in the 111th Congress who were official members of the Democratic Socialists of America in 2009. Here they are in all their socialist glory. Is your Rep on the list? If so, then consider this a call the pest control people?

Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)
Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)
House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

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By call me roy, March 13, 2011 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment

mrfreeze

Hey pilgrim,here is another news article about you’re friends. Enjoy

Suspect Located In Wisconsin GOP Death Threats UPDATE: Female Suspect Has Confessed
Posted by Lady Liberty on Saturday, March 12, 2011, 1:14 PM
The Wisconsin authorities actually located one of the loons who sent the Wisconsin GOP members death threats. They found the violent crackpot who sent this email to 15 different Republican lawmakers.
The Port Washington-Saukville Patch reported: News that the state Justice Department has identified one suspect in connection with death threats sent to Republican state senators comes as at least a minor relief to Sen. Glenn Grothman (R-West Bend). “They caught someone? Good,” he said Friday night. “I am waiting to hear the background of the type of person who would do such a devious thing.” “The Division of Criminal Investigation takes these kind of threats seriously and will follow through with the investigation and prosecution whenever possible,” DCI Administrator Ed Wall said in the release. “I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we’ve had enough,” one of the threatening e-mails read. “We feel that you and your Republican dictators have to die.” The message then went on to say the “group” planned to shoot the senators, and plant bombs in various locations, such as their homes and cars. “If you and your goonies feel that it’s necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then we will ‘get rid of’ (in which I mean kill) the eight of you,” the e-mail continued. “Please understand that this does not include the heroic senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do.” The second message was much shorter, and stated: “(Expletive) you, (expletive). I am formally requesting to see the 30,000 e-mails you have gotten making you comply with the open records law. I assure you that none of them are in support of you or anything that you or your staff stand for. Your staff members have now been added to the hit list as well as those of the other Senate members we have threatened. Please advise them of the impending danger leading to their deaths.” Grothman said the threats made in response to the budget repair bill, and the passing of the revised version, are something unseen before in his nearly 20 years in office. “We have never — you could add up all of the nasty emails and phone calls I have gotten on the first 17 years on the job — and they would not begin to match the obscenities we have seen from opponents of Gov. Walker,” he said. WHBL is reporting that the suspect is a female. The Wisconsin Department of Justice says it has located one of the people who sent death threats to elected officials during the controversy at the state Capitol. The female suspect wasn’t named, but the state says she was located last Thursday.

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By mrfreeze, March 13, 2011 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

Call Me Roy:

How easily you are taken off the real subject of this post by my direct attack on your (sub-par) intellect. You simply can’t go back and argue your original point (e.g. that all of those government workers are the root cause of our problems), which was topic posed by this story. You don’t have any facts, figures, or history to back you up, just your half-wit, dumb opinion.

1) This story is about the utter and total hypocrisy of dip-shits such as you, Ronald Reagan (and all the Republicans/Libertarians/Tea Partiers out there) who feel “entitled” to slander and denigrate working people for somehow bringing our country to it’s current (sorry state). After all, working people are nothing but parasites, right? No matter if their in the public or private sector….Right?
2) Since you feel entitled to your “opinion” in this matter, I feel totally (and apologetically) justified in labeling you what you are: a fucking asshole. Now that you responded with more sophomoric baloney, I’ll add that you’re stupid as well…......Arguing with people like you doesn’t require much decorum….. 
3) Anyone being intellectually honest knows that we really don’t have a Military Industrial Complex. It should be labeled, “The Military Welfare System.” Every time I see troops coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan in their nice uniforms (and watch all the commercials on TV telling us that Radio Shack or some other company “supports the troops”) it represents yet another military family who is currently or will soon be tapping into my tax dollars for all their needs (food, housing, education and HUGE medical/mental health services). They are essentially wards of the state…......when you and the rest of your idiotic partners admit that it’s the military with all it’s corporate profiteers that are a significant part of the “labour-welfare” problem in this country, then we can have a reasonable discussion about what an “American” is worth on the open market…..

In the end, America has become a country of fat, uneducated dolts who, for the most part are happy with their roles as consumers and victims. This is why Ronald Reagan’s legacy of economic voodoo has brought us to our knees….

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By call me roy, March 13, 2011 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

mrfreeze
I “See (and smell that)” you’ve absorbed sarcasm masquerading as satire through osmoses. Obviously, you used a tainted, faulty filter, as your tongue-in-cheek humor was apparently taken from the “cheeks” of your nether region - not your cranium. “At least an ostrich has enough sense to stick its head in the sand and not some other dark, smelly place.” By the way, you’re mother is over here having lunch and she says she is ashamed with you’re lack of decorum? In fact we where discussing how you sound you like a Socialist “Islamic radical” guy who sounds like those movie stars who played the terrorist parts in the “True Lies” movie. Your speech betrays you. Oh wait, maybe it was the movie “Black Sunday.” Or was it “A Son of the Sahara” or “The Black Stallion”, or maybe “Iron Eagle” or “Death Before Dishonor” or “Navy SEALs” or I know it’s “The Delta Force” or could it be “Executive Decision” or many peoples favorite “Reel Bad Arabs.” Gee, there are so many to pick from. Anyway, you guys go out and rent these and I am sure you will enjoy watching yourselves. If you guys find that these movies have helped you in any way, please guys, for your own sake, go see if you can get some anger management help. There is help out there.

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By Lafayette, March 13, 2011 at 3:26 am Link to this comment

MODERN PHARISEES

IH: Perhaps I just need to move.

Try France, a country, by American standards “supposedly Socialist” (They’ve had at least two Socialist Presidents).

The French are well fed, benefit from a good education and a World Class National Heath Care System. There is NO FREE LUNCH here in France, except that of a volunteer organization that offers meals to the homeless who live in the streets. (Somewhat equivalent to the Salvation Army in America, but without any religious overtones.)

And its Gini Coefficient is some 12 points lower than that of the US, demonstrating clearly how Income Taxation & Redistribution (as Public Services) can level the playing field.

People who are against the Progressive Agenda latch onto the words “socialists” and “entitlements” because they have no foundation in fact regarding what is happening elsewhere. They make a mumble-jumble of communism, socialism and entitlements. It’s all the same devil in their myopic eyes.

They would have called Eisenhower a socialist because he proposed Health Care private insurance Federal-subsidies to obtain universal coverage, as Obama has done. It was, of course, shot down in Congress.

The Rabid Right are bereft of any factual argument that substantiates their ignorant faith in the Free Market System and Preventing Government Intervention in the “market system”

They think America’s gross Income Unfairness is not only a natural outcome but preordained by God. And they go to church every Sunday, like the biblical pharisee, to praise God for their good fortune. They do not think of your misery, but fixate on their good fortune.

More stupid than that, you die of ignorance ...

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By Lafayette, March 13, 2011 at 3:01 am Link to this comment

The Carter record is a litany of despair, of broken promises, of sacred trusts abandoned and forgotten.

Bollocks. Pathetic hyperbole and polemic. Propaganda journalism at its worst.

Can any journalist on this blog make a cogent argument, based upon fact, without reverting to speciousness?

I have my doubts.

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By Ian H, March 12, 2011 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment

I’m sorry, but I really don’t see how something like this is useful. I’m so frustrated and absolutely sick of debating “mainstream” politics with people who live where I live. I live in Georgia, and it’s like skiing uphill with a sack of bricks on your back. This is a state where they live for buzzword politics and being told what to be upset over next.

I don’t remember the exact words, but I remember Chomsky said something along the lines of propaganda being most effective when you control both sides of the argument. So why are we even talking about Reagan? He’s their hero. Studies have shown that people who have taken propaganda to heart will inexplicably hold it even closer to heart when shown it isn’t true.

I look at what’s happening (happened) in Wisconsin and honestly, it’s probably for the best. We’re obviously going to need things to get far worse in the US before people realize what removing social services actually means. Walker is a hero to my co-workers because he’s fighting, “socialism and entitlements.” I wonder where they got that from?

I’m so sick of biting my tongue. How did it get so bad here that logic is condemned? They talk jobs and go after abortion? Teachers? Really? They’ve really sold the teachers thing to the average idiot here. I’m sure these are the same people complaining about the education standards while trumpeting tax cuts for the rich.

Perhaps I just need to move. It seems that people don’t catch on until their lives have been ruined by the people they champion. And that includes the pathetic democrats. At least they’re not “redefining rape” though. That’s seriously a shocking new low.

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By Ian H, March 12, 2011 at 10:23 pm Link to this comment

Call me Roy - “What part of the word ‘broke’ does the Unions and Progressives not get?”

If you owned a company comprised of, for examples, several factories. If you put someone in charge of the factories during a “crisis” when you’re “broke” and need money, would you question this person’s integrity if they agreed to no-bid contracts for said factories?

You sound like a champion of free market enterprise. Could you help me connect the dots here so that this makes sense. Purely hypothetical of course.

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By mrfreeze, March 12, 2011 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment

To Call Me Roy:

First and foremost a little ad hominem comment for you:

You’re a fucking asshole…....

Second, a snippet of garbage from your over-wordy, sophomoric rant:

“We have a new privileged class in America,” said Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who rescinded state workers’ collective bargaining power on his first day in office in 2006. “We used to think of government workers as underpaid public servants. Now they are better paid than the people who pay their salaries.”

Only a moron such as yourself can believe that the “new privileged” class in America are government employees and, even more absurd, that their wages and benefits are bringing the U.S. to it’s knees.

Everyone knows that it is our empire building (do you include all the military personnel in your “government employee equation???? doubt it) and all the profiteering corporations (which are nothing but de facto government operations)? You see, there are those of us who can thin-slice “the new privileged class” in far more sophisticated ways than you have and come to a completely different conclusion.

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By call me roy, March 12, 2011 at 6:49 pm Link to this comment

Wisconsin was only about one thing: the total disregard for the taxpayer. What part of the word “broke” does the Unions and Progressives not get?

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By call me roy, March 12, 2011 at 6:47 pm Link to this comment

OCJIM
Right wing want to screw the people? I think you’re confused pilgrim? Maybe you should give the bong are rest? Its actually the Progressive Socialists / Commie Fest Labor Unions who want to screw the taxpayer.

Spurred by state budget crunches and an angry public mood, Republican and some Democratic leaders are focusing with increasing intensity on public workers and the unions that represent them, casting them as overpaid obstacles to good government and demanding cuts in their often-generous benefits.
Unlike past battles over the high cost of labor, this time pitched battles over wages and pensions are being waged from Sacramento to Springfield to New York City and the conflict is marked by its bipartisan tone, with public employee unions emerging as an intransigent public enemy number one in cities and state capitals across the country.
They’re the whipping boys for a new generation of governors who, thanks to a tanking economy and an assist from editorial boards, feel freer than ever to make political targets out of what was once a protected liberal class of teachers, cops, and other public servants.
Republicans around the nation have cheered New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, whose shouting match over budget cuts with an outraged teacher—“You don’t have to” teach, he told her without sympathy—became a YouTube sensation on the right last week.
And even Democrats, like the nominee for governor in New York, Andrew Cuomo, have echoed the attacks on unions.
Christie is merely the most florid voice for a calculated, national effort to fundamentally reshape the debate on the labor costs that account for the bulk of government spending at every level. And at the core of the shift is a perception among many political leaders that public anger at civil servants is boiling over.
“We have a new privileged class in America,” said Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who rescinded state workers’ collective bargaining power on his first day in office in 2006. “We used to think of government workers as underpaid public servants. Now they are better paid than the people who pay their salaries.”
“It’s a part of a very large question the nation’s got to face,” Daniels told POLITICO in an interview. “Who serves whom here? Is the public sector—as some of us have always thought—there to serve the rest of society? Or is it the other way around?”
The new focus on public workers is the product of a perfect storm of anti-labor factors.
First are the very real financial obligations imposed by their salaries, health benefits and—especially—their traditional, defined-benefit pension plans, which have been sweetened over the years in many states by legislators eager for the support of politically-powerful unions. This is particularly true in the northern and western states that allow public workers to organize. A recent study from the Pew Center on the States found that states are short $1 trillion toward the $3.35 trillion in pension, health care and other retirement benefits states have promised their current and retired workers, the product of a combination of political decisions and the recent recession.
California, however, remains ground zero for pension fights, as the seat of both the nation’s highest-profile budget crises and some of its most powerful public unions. Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has been fighting them since he took office, and they have handed him his most stinging political defeats. He failed in 2003 and 2004 to attack pension costs through the legislature, then in 2005 backed ballot initiatives to shift public workers to a 401(k)-style pension system, to cap spending and to roll back teachers’ tenure. But he was forced to drop the pension measure amid claims it would cut death benefits for police widows, and lost the other measures in an expensive, bruising political fight that was the worst defeat of his tenure.

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By ocjim, March 12, 2011 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment

Like all their devious conservative brethren, right-wing candidates don’t tell their voter audiences the truth: they want to screw the people and be puppets to plutocrats.

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By call me roy, March 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment

I give you some “collective bargaining”

In Wisconsin, fire them ALL for lying about being sick. Do a Ronald Reagan on the Air Traffic Controllers.

Have a nice day

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By call me roy, March 12, 2011 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

This is all starting to feel queasily familiar. Flash back to about 1975 or so. Jimmy Carter makes nice with Trujillo and apologizes for US control of the Panama Canal before cutting it loose. Jimmy Carter praises Ceaucescu in Romania as a stable leader “we can do business with”. Jimmy Carter believes we can work with the Russian leaders, as we start unilaterally disarming our nuke arsenal. And Jimmy Carter snuggles up to the Chinese, giving them tours of our auto factories. With a Greek chorus of fate (and a few advisors stage right, chanting, “No, Jimmy, don’t do it! No Jimmy don’t do it.”
Well he did it. It only took him two years of his dangerous liberal foreign policy to create a following two years of hell in 79 and 80. Whether you were 7 or 47, who could forget it? Gasoline lines. Hostages in Iran. Burning American flags. Russian divisions swarming into Afghanistan, “screw you USA!” 25% prime rates (do they teach this history in college?) We abandon the Shah, a friend, and get 30 years nonstop instability in the Middle East and suicidal terrorism still dogging us today. Was it really all that bad? Yes it was. Analogy to Obama? He’s 1000% worse! Why? Crazy Jimmy was confused about history. Barry Hussen Obuma is not only confused about protecting America but about his religion. God help us (not Allah), GOD. Why else would Barry going running over to the home of Billy Graham to “pray” with Billy and Franklin after the Pentagon Chaplain’s Office (at the Army’s request), contacted Graham to withdraw the invitation extended to him to be the main speaker at the Pentagon’s observance of the National Day of Prayer?
The only thing Jimmy’s got going for himself is that now he is no longer the worst president in US history.

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By Big B, March 12, 2011 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment

Like ITW, I sit here agast that Ronny Ray-guns LIED to us.

Of course he LIED! Look back at his history, the truth simply was not in him.

All you need to know about Ronny was that when the right wings communist witchhunt hit hollwood, instead of taking a stand, he slunked off into a corner and sold out his friends. It was good practice, for thats all this son-of-a-bitch did to america in the white house.

Hopefully, there is a special place in hell for men like Ronny.

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By Jim Yell, March 12, 2011 at 11:45 am Link to this comment
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Ronald Reagan had one talent, knowing which side his bread is buttered on. He didn’t forget he lied. How do we know this? When he was President of Screen Actors he lied to his members that the contract he was recommending was the best they could get. They fell for it and a few weeks later he had become a Producer.

The actors got shafted out of a lot of money and the Producers had it their way.

Why are we still so bound by oil, because Ronald told the American People they didn’t need to conserve energy and went about obstructing or abandoning the programs that might have made a difference to our independence from Oil and to improve the environment. He lied and he is and was a liar.

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By rend, March 11, 2011 at 10:39 pm Link to this comment
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Go see Inside JOb, look at all the nonsense Obama said on the campaign trail about
regulation of the markets,, then he is swept into the white house and hires Summers!

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By Inherit The Wind, March 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm Link to this comment

So Reagan was a blatant, unprincipled liar to get elected.

Why is this news?

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By Textynn, March 11, 2011 at 8:53 pm Link to this comment
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I don’t know about the rest of you but I am fed up to the teeth with politicians saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite. Then pretending like it was out of their hands after they were obviously responsible. 

They pretend people can’t remember the ten things they did to make it happen and the ten things they didn’t do that would have been obvious and easy.  The latter being Obama’s favorite method.

They are not respectable people and we as a nation need to start talking about morality and INTEGRITY. These politicians are so bad it’s like trying to get a just and effective government from two bit con men and then people say “Oh just learn to accept it.”

WE MUST DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. The amoral un-evolved slash and burn elite Annaliators are a low class of immoral, indecent, hypocritical criminals and we need to demand a higher quality of person in our leaders and REMOVE the thugs and inflict our power on our leaders. WE are a democracy and we need to take legal action and do RECALLs and Try for treason and misconduct.

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By AnAlienEarthling, March 11, 2011 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

“Forgot” is a word predicated on assumptions that RR
spoke with sincerity and honesty.  Those adjectives
characterize the rhetorical style of his speech, not
the character of the person from whom the speech was
spewed. The sooner we recognize the truth of the past
few decades of our history, the sooner our democracy
can be restored to the hands of the American people. 

Reagan LIED to the American people, and effectively
launched a trajectory of suffering that continues its
impact today!

Reagan’s lies continue to be deployed by the the
filthy demagogues following his tradition: Tea
Partiers, Gingrich (a “forgiving God” - what moronic plebeians does he think we Americans are?), Palin,
Bachman, Scott, Peter King (Hearings on Islamic
Radicalization - has he NO DECENCY!!!! (Doesn’t
anyone see this as tantamount to Hitler’s ploy to
scapegoat the Jewish people for Germany’s socio-
economic hardships; why not simply ‘round up’ our
Muslim Americans as we did the Japanese Americans and
simply force them into concentration camps????)...

How many more millions of American families and
American children must suffer before we recognize the
duplicity by which our society is being destroyed?

According to recent research in Affective
Neuroscience, among these children we can expect
damage to the brain systems that secure loving,
caring relationships! When coupled with the pandemic
obesity problems, the pandemic of impoverished
elementary educational resources, what future will
our children have? What future will our society have?

If these billionaires and millionaires really care so
much about our society, then why don’t they simply
contribute the extra hundreds of millions of dollars
to alleviate the suffering. In this way, there would
be no need for ‘big’ government. Just as Mark Twain
told us a century ago how our Congress was “THE BEST
THAT MONEY COULD BUY,” why don’t these ultra-rich
simply buy smaller government?

In other words, if these folks want so much to
eliminate governmental services for the needy, they
can do so VERY EASILY. Using their own hordes of
funds, they can simply create their own massive,
PRIVATE SERVICES to attend to the needy. The
government could then, painlessly, cut the budgets as
much as they want it to! They could even, then, be
‘doubly exempt’ from taxes!!! The Kochs are stupidly
using their money to maintain BIG government - if you
(and other CEOs, and Buffets, and Gates, and…) pool
together several hundreds of millions of dollars, you
can eliminate BIG GOVERNMENT or the need for any
governmental functions. Do for American society what
the original Hershey (founder of Hershey,
Pennsylvania) did for his workers, and we will not
need governmental subsidies! Our government will be
the best that your money can buy, with a wonderful
society thrown in as an added bonus!!

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By Mr Sam, March 11, 2011 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment
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Where are the jobs? The Bush tax breaks for the wealthy are/were supposed create jobs, where are they? The Republicans cherish Reagan as their hero and founder of the new conservatism. He just reinforced their beliefs in lying to get elected then to proceed with whatever agenda their big business and big money contributors want (more bang for the buck, so to speak). If the workers today don’t have the strength to fight for the rights left them in so many struggles in the past, then they deserve what they get. I only pity their children.

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By bluesman, March 11, 2011 at 5:42 pm Link to this comment

Ronnie Boy quickly forgot all this when the Big Money interests and his own self centered ego took hold just a few years after this video was shot.
Ever since then, it has been a continued effort to crush anyone who doesn’t have a silver spoon in his mouth.
And as president Reagan just slept through it all.

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By California Ray, March 11, 2011 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Ha, ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWIuNmY93E

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By JJW, March 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment
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They’ll say anything to get elected.  It is what they do, once in office that is destroying the nation.

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By TDoff, March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

Ronnie said it, so it is a quote, not a mis-quote.
‘Course Reagan’s life, politics and party could all be considered to be a ‘mis- something or other’. ‘Begotten eff-up’ comes to mind.

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By rjg1971, March 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment

Typical populist speech politicians make on the
campaign trail. Then he got elected.

He’s defending collective bargaining, not striking. 
What’s the point of collective bargaining if all
the unions do is agree to concessionary contracts
with no strike clauses? The only leverage the work
force has against capital is the withholding of its
labor.

I’m glad to see the uproar over what’s happening Wisconsin, but it’s the inevitable result of three
decades of concessionary unionism.

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By rjg1971, March 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm Link to this comment

Typical populist politicians give on the campaign
trail. Then he got elected.

He’s defending collective bargaining, not striking. 
What’s the point of collective bargaining if all
the unions do is agree to concessionary contracts
with no strike clauses? The only leverage the work
force has against capital is the withholding of its
labor.

I’m glad to see the uproar over what’s happening Wisconsin, but it’s the inevitable result of three
decades of concessionary unionism.

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By TDoff, March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

Ronnie said it, so it is a quote. One sound way of looking at his life, his politics, and his party, is that all of it was/is a mis-‘something’ or other, ‘begotten eff-up’, and, as you pointed out, Aztek, ‘take’ come to mind.

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By Ratiocinator, March 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm Link to this comment

Obviously he was pandering for votes. How many hot buttons did he hit?
Religion(moral character) -check, reducing taxes- check, de-regulation- check,
gotta get me some of those union votes so sell my union affiliation to the sheep-
check.
Now when I’m in the office I’ll just become a puppet for the oligarchy. (Which is
what Obama has done. No CHANGE whatsoever there.

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By Azcat85, March 11, 2011 at 4:08 pm Link to this comment

That was a mis-quote from Reagan not a believe.  He was quoting John Adams
and mis-spoke. “Facts are Stubborn Things”

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By TDoff, March 11, 2011 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

Reagan summed up his approach to life and politics, as well as that of his republican party, in just four words, his most apropos quote:

‘Facts are stupid things’

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By Azcat85, March 11, 2011 at 3:59 pm Link to this comment

Collective bargaining is still alive in private company business negotiations and on
pay alone in Wisconsin. I don’t believe the governor of Wis stripped the ability of
the teachers to collectively bargain for pay,  only limited CB for pensions and
health care.  Collective bargaining needs to be limited when the funds to effect the
bargain are from the public coffers and not the private sector.

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By berniem, March 11, 2011 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

St. Ronnie was an opportunistic prostitute who offered his charming personna to any cause or organization that would benefit and further his career and his hoped for beatification! Negative impact on those not useful to him or his benefactors was seen only as collateral damage on the way to immortality!

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