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Posted on Nov 24, 2010
AP / Ted S. Warren

Good times: A traveler endures a pat-down during a TSA security screening on Nov. 19 at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.

By David Coleman

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Will the Courts Take Frisks More Seriously Now?

Should the frisk be so commonly used? In legal theory the answer is “no.” Although the Terry decision authorized brief detentions for questioning, it placed limits on the authority to frisk someone detained: A frisk is supposed to occur only when there are articulable suspicions of a weapon. A frisk cannot be based on a hunch and it certainly cannot be a standard, routine practice. In the real world, however, neither the police nor the judges who are constitutionally charged with enforcing adherence follow those rules.

Police officers, with the tacit approval of prosecutors and sympathetic judges, frequently say, “I could not take the chance that he might have a weapon in his pocket, so I patted him down for my own personal protection.” Judges tend to empathize with the anxiety and uncertainty the police officer may feel in a street or roadside confrontation. The constitutional requirement—that observable facts (a bulge the size of a gun, for instance, or furtive movements with the hands into the clothing) are supposed to be necessary before even an exterior pat-down occurs—is hardly ever enforced. When no weapon is found during the frisk, police officers and judges shrug: “Better safe than sorry.”

Thus, police pat-down practices (both as to whether a pat-down was needed and as to how extensive the intrusion should be) go unchallenged. Unjustified frisks occur even if the initial detention—but not a frisk—might be warranted. Concern for the officer’s safety and the deference to the officer’s discretion on the scene hold total sway. A police officer who can say that his training (or the experience of fellow officers) has brought to the fore instances where “suspects have concealed razor blades or needles” in their underwear means that those reports always make it reasonable to convert a frisk opportunity into a de facto strip search on the spot, day or night, rain or shine. Trial and appellate court judges leave decisions about when and how to frisk entirely up to the police officer. In effect, the officer has authority unchecked and unconstrained by the Constitution.

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This is true largely because stops and frisks are litigated in court only when drugs or weapons are seized. A decision that a stop-and-frisk (when it placed the officer in a position to find weapons or drugs) violated the Constitution would run counter to two powerful, hydraulic pressures on judges that they are unable to resist: the “double wide” latitude given to law enforcement officers concerned for their safety and the more lamentable rationale that the end (seizing evidence of a crime) justifies the means by which law enforcement gets the job done.

In a New York Times article about the controversial TSA searches, professor Orin Kerr commented about the weak oversight by the courts of searches at airports. In a massive understatement Kerr said, “The tenor of earlier cases is pretty deferential to the government.” Translated from nuanced, politic legalese, Kerr might have explained “deferential” more colorfully—as akin to the attitude Rochester, the Beverly Hills butler, showed toward Jack Benny: “I’ll take your word for it, Boss.”

What has emerged from the TSA pat-down kerfuffle is recognition that it is psychologically demeaning to be subjected to physical touching of private areas of the body by someone not invited to do so. Now, the psychological treatment of men of color is being brought home to middle American men as shown by, the Times reports, their complaints “about airport security measures, offering graphic accounts of genital contact and expressing a general sense of powerlessness and humiliation.” Men of color might respond: “Welcome to our world. We have had that experience in our own neighborhood without driving out to the airport.”

Will the perception that there is a harm—a substantial psychological humiliation—needlessly imposed on millions of innocent citizens by intrusive pat-downs change opinions of the general public about the use of such tactics by police officers against males of color who are not boarding airplanes? Probably not. 

Intrusive “junk touching” will continue to be a threat in the lives of men of color walking or driving on the streets of America. The courts will continue to give the police carte blanche with regard to the necessity for, and scope of, police pat-downs. For four decades since the approval of the frisk tactic in Terry v. Ohio, the courts have looked the other way while the frisks disproportionately targeted men of color. 

It should come as no surprise that police and agents of federal security agencies such as the TSA may be more responsive to the air traveling business public than to pedestrians and motorists in low income communities of color. Now that white, male, middle Americans are feeling the long arm of the law near the family jewels, the impact of a humiliating governmental indignity is no longer confined to a powerless and silent minority. For men of color, who have traditionally been on the groping end of the long arm of the law, the response may be “So what’s new?”


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By Inherit The Wind, December 3, 2010 at 11:56 pm Link to this comment

Same info on BRAF V600E in the NYTimes.

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By garth, December 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm Link to this comment

ITW,

“PLX4032 only works in melanoma patients whose cancer has a V600E BRAF mutation (that is, at amino acid position number 600 on the B-RAF protein, the normal valine is replaced by glutamic acid). About 60% of melanomas have the V600E BRAF mutation. Melanoma cells without this mutation are not inhibited by PLX4032; PLX4032 paradoxically stimulates normal BRAF and may promote tumor growth.”

You took the words right out of my fingertips.

I was quoting the Boston Herald.  I can see that that might not be good idea.

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By Inherit The Wind, December 3, 2010 at 9:11 pm Link to this comment

Garth:

RG7204 is not generally for all skin cancer, not even melanoma. It is solely for a very particular form of melanoma.  From Wikipedia:

“PLX4032 only works in melanoma patients whose cancer has a V600E BRAF mutation (that is, at amino acid position number 600 on the B-RAF protein, the normal valine is replaced by glutamic acid). About 60% of melanomas have the V600E BRAF mutation. Melanoma cells without this mutation are not inhibited by PLX4032; PLX4032 paradoxically stimulates normal BRAF and may promote tumor growth.”

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By garth, December 3, 2010 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment

How much you wanna bet that Roche, the Swiss pharmaceutical giant is going amke a ‘killing’ (excuse the pun) off their new drug for skin cancer, RG7204?

Skin Canncer:  About 16,000 new cases of malignant melanoma are diagnosed each year world-wide according to the article in the Boston Herald 12/03/10).

Dr. Severin Schwan, CEO of Roche is shown above the article holding up eight fingers.  (I wonder if he lost two to leprosy?  There goes his fingernail into his ginger ale.)

He was in Boston touting the success of the drug, RG7204.  (I’m thinking that the number 16,000 new cases is rolling around in the back of his head, as in, “How can I increase the number of new cases?”)

Roche is a part of big Phrma, (the pill companies) they’re the ones Obama let off the hook in the Health Insurance dance earlier this year.  He wanted to keep them from calling him bad names, so he hit them with some kind pittance for a fee of some kind (around $80 B) but allowed them to make plans to start raking in $800 Billion from future drug sales in the US. 

They’ll have a pill for everything soon.  Ass ache?  Take two of these.  Can’t sleep?  Take Luna tuna.  It might put you to sleep forever.

Now we have Dr. Chertoff, Rapiscan, TSA and millions upon millions of flying passengers who are willing to subject themselves to X-rays.  And just when Boys in Goverment Gray thought life had given them lemons; Look! They made lemonade.

Life expactancy after the cancer metasticizes is about 10 months. 

To make their research money back and reward the nice shareholders with a hefty reward, Roche is probably going to charge an arm & a leg.

(Meanwhile, Roche will not open a research site in Boston.  Ah, fuck ‘im, the dirty rat.) 

RG7204:  There used to be a five cent cigar called the 7204.  It was a real El Ropo.  I think holding it caused cancer.  Now, I wonder if the name of the drug, RG7204, and the name of the old cigar, 7204, is just a coinicidence?

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By bogi666, December 2, 2010 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
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Kay Johnson, I went thru Tacoma-Seattle screening in 2002 and the SNARLING TSA THUGS were just as you say. As Garth said this is a training film, just for PR propaganda. If everyone would put chewing gum wrappers in their pocket it would foul up their pathetic little games and would be acceptable than being felt up, in most cases. Better yet it would drive the TSA goons bat shit crazy. I had gum wrappers in several pockets, the goons thought they had them a terrist and were gleeful until they found out they were gum wrappen.

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By garth, December 2, 2010 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment

Bog666,

“The purpose of the TSA is obedience training of adults. Most interesting are the “pat downs” which is meant to strip persons of their dignity. I suspect that the reason for the police patting down black was more based on continuing the assault on their dignity which was instituted with slavery. To remind them whose boss. The reasons the police conjured up were just smoke screens to continue unabated the humiliation, abuse, intimidation and other tactics to strip people of their dignity, which now includes whites, and their self exaltation of their favored status in society, a delusion of course, whom will be in denial that their favored status delusion has ended, they just don’t know it.”

Notice the photo at the top of this mealy-mouthed piece.  It’s a training video.  It isn’t what really happens.

Let’s lynch David Coleman.

Throw in Ruth Marcus, Nina Totenberg, Erin McKean and Dr. Chertoff for good measure. If they all say the same thing then we only need one of them. 

To be democratic in thinning the hersd, let them decide who stays and who goes through the Final Cattle Roundup.

Like the tribute to Tom Russert, we’ll miss ‘em, ever so slightly.

Pass the clicker.

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By bogi666, December 2, 2010 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment
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The purpose of the TSA is obedience training of adults. Most interesting are the “pat downs” which is meant to strip persons of their dignity. I suspect that the reason for the police patting down black was more based on continuing the assault on their dignity which was instituted with slavery. To remind them whose boss. The reasons the police conjured up were just smoke screens to continue unabated the humiliation, abuse, intimidation and other tactics to strip people of their dignity, which now includes whites, and their self exaltation of their favored status in society, a delusion of course, whom will be in denial that their favored status delusion has ended, they just don’t know it.

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By garth, December 1, 2010 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

GRYMsley on the drums,
” It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter’s speech to be canceled last March.”

Did you mean BriAnn Coulter? Let’s see them grope her/his junk at the airport.

I think your Ann has reached her shelf life.

Amazing irony.  David Tisei a Republian candidate for Lt. Governor of MA outed himself before the campaign got into full swing.  One common question I heard was:  Doesn’t this guy know that Charlie Baker and Republicans would want put him and his like in the ovens?

What else do you have?

Breitbart? 

Now’s the time for you, GRYMSley, smoky logic, to get real.

Troll?  I guess that is what you are. It’s an old, old technique:  Lambast the opposition with claims that you are, in fact, guilty of.

Thanks for the easy tip off.

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By gerard, November 30, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Let’s see, now ... where were we?  Oh, yes, X-ray scanners and offensive pat-downs. Just for some R&R, go to Forbes Magazine, (11-30-10) Wendy Milling of Real Clear Markets, “Nude Scanners vs. the Foundations of Capitalism.”  Be sure to wade through to the final sentences or you’ll miss the real point.
Confusion worse confounded, for much of the article seems to oppose scanning as unnecessary and a “moral violation of freedom.”  But wait till you get to the end for more about “moral violations”  ... where we are asked to “ruthlessly stamp out ... ” etc. etc.
  Hard to believe, but see for youself.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 30, 2010 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment

ITW, - “You could at least thank me for getting rid of that advertising troll, before you attack.”

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It never occurred to me.  When I came across the schemes I hit Report.  I assumed everyone did the same.  The IT Dept, I’m sure, was all over it the first day.

Thank you

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By Go Right Young Man, November 30, 2010 at 7:50 pm Link to this comment

ITW, - “Next you’ll tell us that Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh were liberals, too…”

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Bull crap. 

You’re not a simpleton.  The thought of you missing the point to that particular list, a list just as valid as yours - via MSNBC, would be disturbing. 

When, ITW?

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By Inherit The Wind, November 30, 2010 at 3:59 pm Link to this comment

GRYM:
I just admire how you can just make shit up. Next you’ll tell us that Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh were liberals, too, and have some obscure “quote” to prove it, complete with a Coulter-like over-extrapolation of the meaning.

You could at least thank me for getting rid of that advertising troll, before you attack.

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By fearnotruth, November 30, 2010 at 3:34 pm Link to this comment

amateur hour straw man displays of intentional provocation

e.g. * The two New Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people
with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.

just the facts, mam

((((Bobby Seale, one of the original founding members of the original Black Panther
Party, a civil rights group from the civil rights era, speaks out against the New Black
Panther Party in an interview on CNN (July 8, 2010).)))

http://tinyurl.com/CNN-NBPP

There Is No New Black Panther Party: An Open Letter From the Dr. Huey P. Newton
Foundation

...New Black Panthers were never members of the Black Panther Party…

...they denigrate the Party’s name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the
revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded. Their alleged media assault
on the Ku Klux Klan serves to incite hatred rather than resolve it.

...The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward
the “white establishment.” The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of
white people.

...who are these people laying claim to the Party’s history and name? Are they
reactionary provocateurs, who would instigate activities counterproductive to the
people’s interests, causing mayhem and death? Are they entertainers, who would
posture themselves before the media, and, according to numerous sources, with
empty guns, to spin gold for themselves? Are they, given the history of their late-
leader Khalid Muhammad, a group of anti-Semites like the very Ku Klux Klan they
allegedly oppose? What is their agenda?

NBPP is clearly COINTELPRO - citing them as anything else reveals an
agent on assignment to instill distracting infighting among the under classes and
away from our common enemy: THE GLOBAL FINANCE OLIGARCHY

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By Go Right Young Man, November 30, 2010 at 9:13 am Link to this comment

ITW,

As we suspected you will continue to ignore everything below so that you can align yourself with corporate MSNBC and label everyone less liberals as inherently dangerous. - We all remember the term “Cherry Picking”.


* It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter’s speech to be canceled last March.
  * It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man who disagreed with him on health-care.
  * It was liberal SEIU members who beat a black vendor at a rally while calling him a Nigger.
  * It was Obama-supporter Amy Bishop who took a gun to work and murdered co-workers.
  * Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building after writing an anti-conservative manifesto.
  * It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers outside of Seattle.
  * It’s liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships.
  * It’s doubtful that a conservative fired shots into a GOP campaign headquarters.
  * Don’t forget it was Obama’s friend Bill Ayers who used terrorism as a tool for political change. SDS is still radical, with arrests in 2007 and the storming of the CATO Institute in July 2008.
  * It was a liberal who was sentenced to two years for bringing bombs and riot shields to the Republican National Convention in 2008.
  * It was a liberal who threatened to kill a government informant who infiltrated her Austin-based group that planned to bomb the RNC.
  * It was liberals who assaulted police in Berkeley.
  * It was liberals who intimidated and threw rocks through the windows of university researchers.
  * The two New Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.
  * Every time the G20 gets together, it’s not conservatives who regularly injure dozens, destroy property and cause chaos.
  * Pentagon shooter, John Patrick Bedell, was a registered Democrat and the Holocaust museum shooter, James Von Brunn, was an “anti-Christian, 9/11 ‘truther’ who, like yourself, hated the Bushes and the phantom “Neo-Cons”.

Violence is a product of the fringe, on either side, and it’s sickening to try to use it for political advantage. - What you do is needless and dangerous.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 29, 2010 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

TD:

Please find a way to stop these hackers from dropping their ads into every thread.

It prevents us from fighting with each other NHB!

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By Inherit The Wind, November 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment

Amazing! Arabian Sinbad and I, who have gone at it tooth and nail in the past, find ourselves standing back to back despite disagreeing on so much (including the demise of Bldg 7)!

Barbie, there is no evidence that “disproves” global warning. Check out the list of “100 Scientists” who challenge Global Warming.  I did.  I found an MD on the list who runs a kidney dialysis center.  I actually knew the lying prick when we were kids and he morphed from a Dylan-singing anti-war liberal to a Palin-admiring reactionary who says stupid things like “Impeach Nancy Pelosi” (There are so many reasons why this is a stupid statement…Starting with the fact that the Speaker isn’t an impeachable position).

And, yes, one solid piece of evidence WILL force the Global Warming theory to be evaluated, and either modified to account for that evidence, or abandoned. Go ahead and find it, if you can.

I have been called just about every kind of name here at TD, and amazingly enough many of them contradict each other.  Yet my positions have remained substantially the same, only changing when I find evidence that compels them to change.

There is about as much in common between the Black Panthers and the New Black Panther Party as between the Peoples’ Army of China and the Simbionese Liberation Army. They are both armies, right?  Gotta be the same thing then, right?

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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By garth, November 29, 2010 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment

Skin Cancer. Melanoma.  It ain’t pretty.

My wife’s cousin died of it last year.  She lived long enough to see her daughteer married off.  She was too weak to get out of the car, though, and couldn’t enter the church.

It ain’t pretty.

Who is being excused from these scan\pat-downs?  The media people?  The politicos and their henchpeople?

I got that notion from listening with a third ear to the talk on some of these news shows. 

CEOs of course fly their own jets.

Who’s paying for the free ride?  Rapiscan?  L3?


Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree?  Maybe people like a good case of the cancer.  They can talk amongst themselves using the possessive, like, “Let me tell you about “my” cancer.”

Melanoma, sort of rolls off the tongue doesn’t it?

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By garth, November 29, 2010 at 12:01 pm Link to this comment

Check out who has to go through the Scanner\pat down security at the airport. 

Listening between the lines at some of these news shows, I am getting the distinct notion that news people along with elected Governent sacks are getting a pass.

CEOs have their own jets, so they avoid the scanner\pat down altogether.

Can we send our bills from the oncologist for Cancer Treatment to Ruth Marcus at the Washington Post, or to Nina Totenberg at NPR, or to Erin McKean at the Boston Globe, or to this Coleman jamoke, the authour of this race-baiting, drum roll?

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By garth, November 29, 2010 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

Just read, “Enemy of the People” by Henrik Ibsen.

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By BarbieQue, November 29, 2010 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

ITW scribbles: “All one has to show is that an argument contains ONE deliberate lie to legitimately toss it all out.  Just ask any scientist who cheated and faked ONE number and got caught by his peers.”

There goes “global warming” eh sport?

What a ridiculous piece of non reasoning. Stunning, even.

Arabian Sinbad, November 28 at 2:58 am

“...I don’t know if it ever crossed your mind that a fanatic right-winger, such as GYRM, whom you’re defending against the liberal ITW, would appreciate what seems to be a clear contradiction! I hope that he will not tear you to pieces for suggesting that his fanatic right-wingers were responsible for 9/11, either by commission or omission!”

GRYM is not, IMHO, a “fanatic”.

And ITW is hardly a “liberal”. He’s clearly a sycophant. Maybe even a fanatic sycophant.

Brilliant detective work there, Sinbad, on the WTC7 thing.

It’s laughable how some seem so confused when one deviates a little from the generally acceptable bullsh!t

Keep paying attention!

Are you one of those teeming masses of eaters who hate Sarah Palin more than the scum that have actually ripped you off and keep your fellow citizens in a perpetual state of war and fear? (I.E. Republicans & Democrats)

Who cares.

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By fearnotruth, November 28, 2010 at 11:08 pm Link to this comment

GRYM shills these psyops better than Faux News…

the Somali-born teen arrested in a recent car bomb plot

We read that the FBI claims, “the public had never been in danger at any time during the operation.” (same MO as in the 1993 WTC car bombing sting, that went live) Then of course, they also claim, “The threat was very real. Our investigation shows that Mohamud was absolutely committed to carrying out an attack on a very grand scale…”

Of course, most patsies are dedicated, but too inept to carry out the operation - usually executed by a professional contractor; but of late we’re seeing ‘fizzled’ threats - e.g. Times Square Bomber, Underwear Bomber - psyops; the psychology: ‘fizzled is good enough,’ moreover, we stopped it and tracked the plotter, got more intel -give us a medal - we are your protectors - you need us and you need to submit to our control… yada, yada…

Most important: how did this patsy get ‘radicalized’? Well documented are London’s Brixton and Finsburry Mosque - Patsy Schools as they’re widely known. Portland had it’s 7 so-called Juhadists convicted some 7-or-so years ago, who tell a similar tale of being led on by a FBI informant-provocateur.

This is FBI COINTEL SOP - Doubtless the New Black Panther Party is a COINTEL PRO operation; and, little doubt that the so-called TEA PARTY is too.

The goal: instill hatred, perhaps insight more violence (from wherever, makes not difference) toward infighting among the under classes - confusion and distraction away from the common enemy: THE GLOBAL FINANCE OLIGARCHY -  those who plan the wars when and where they most need them to advance their agenda of global hegemony and line their pockets!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/somaliborn-teen-arrested-in-us-car-bomb-sting-2145227.html

Somali-born teen arrested in US car bomb sting

By Paul Simao
Saturday, 27 November 2010

A Somali-born teenager was arrested yesterday for attempting to detonate what he thought was a car bomb at a Christmas Tree lighting ceremony in Oregon, US authorities said.

Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, was charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction in connection with an alleged plot to bomb the annual event in downtown Portland, the FBI said in a statement late yesterday.

The bomb was a fake and had been provided to Mohamud as part of a long- term sting by the FBI. It also said Mohamud had been in contact with an unnamed individual overseas believed to be involved in terrorist activities.

“The threat was very real. Our investigation shows that Mohamud was absolutely committed to carrying out an attack on a very grand scale,” said Arthur Balizan, a senior FBI agent in Oregon.

Agents shadowed Mohamud, who is a naturalized US citizen, for months and met him several times as the plot developed, officials said, adding he had told them that he had thought of waging violent jihad, or holy war, since the age of 15.

He went ahead with the plot despite being given a number of opportunities to drop the idea, the FBI said. It said the affidavit against Mohamud quotes him as saying: “I want whoever is attending that event (in Portland) to leave, to leave either dead or injured.”

The arrest came a day after Americans celebrated the Thanksgiving holiday amid heightened security.

Mohamud is expected to make his initial appearance in a federal court in Portland on Monday. He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and a $250,000 fine if convicted of the charge of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.

Federal officials said the public had never been in danger at any time during the operation.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 28, 2010 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment

-November 28 at 2:35 am. Go Right Young Man

Excuse me - The two New Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.  Nor was the Virginia Tech shooter.  We can likely assume the Somali-born teen arrested in a recent car bomb plot is not a Neo-Con.

When, ITW?  When will you end this spread of hatred and division?  What you’re doing is needless and dangerous.

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By G.Anderson, November 28, 2010 at 4:56 pm Link to this comment

Very nice Redhorse..

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By garth, November 28, 2010 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment

The effects of x-rays are cumulative.  Even light x-rays like the ones you get in the Dentist’s chair.  The effects add up.

IT IS NOT:
1———————————————>0
1———————————————>0
1———————————————>0

IT IS:

1+1+1+1+1=4

Anyone want to whimper?

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By garth, November 28, 2010 at 4:09 pm Link to this comment

From the article:

“What has emerged from the TSA pat-down kerfuffle is recognition that it is psychologically demeaning to be subjected to physical touching of private areas of the body by someone not invited to do so.”
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It might be no small matter to some, a ‘kerfuffle’, but to millions of people who are being herded through a potentially life-threatening, TSA\Homeland Security contraption that zaps you with X-Rays, I’d say that it is diabolical.

The results of this could make a heart attack funny.

What it could be is a line in the sand.  They did similar treatment to the Jews in Nazi Germany, “Here, step in and take a shower.”  Only this one is slow death and drawn out until the tumor is discovered, or the coughing blood, or the swelling of the prostate.

No, we have big problems with TSA: the herding of millions through the X-rays, travel in general (they want to privatize the travel services in the US) and who gets a pass and who doesn’t and why?

One thing I’ve noticed about the diabolical nature of this herding is who they hire to be TSA agents.  It’s a low paying job and most of them are African Americans.  Most Security workers for that matter, another low paying job, are African Americans.  These people know how to play the race card.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 28, 2010 at 3:15 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man, November 28 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment

ITW,

I clearly and quickly corrected a very minor mistake.  A mistake which you are using to distract from your small-minded bigoted comments.  Comments intended to divide and foster hate.
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No, you didn’t—you weaseled around it, as usual.  And you have repeatedly used this one, single fringe event as justification for the entire right wing movement and the repeated voter intimidation incidents that have gone on since 1964 when William Rehnquist personally tried to intimidate minority voters in Arizona.

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By REDHORSE, November 28, 2010 at 2:36 pm Link to this comment

Americans have choice. They can join hands at any time in common cause and action. They can create a small press (Kinko’s). March, picket, e-mail, write letters, form discussion groups, they can organize anytime they wish.

    Huey Newton, Mother Jones, Bill Heywood were all organizers and fighters, but they didn’t do it alone. Citizens marched with them. The common man/woman was willing to show up in protest of injusitice, lend small financial aid, provide a meal and a place to sleep. It was grassroots. And, it changed things.

    Capital has always murdered. It created the Pinkertons and Wells Fargo thugs who shot and killed innocents, kidnapped and disappeared organizers, infiltrated workers groups, busted heads and drove families into the streets. They still are. Truncheon and massacre is their hallmark. Starting with Columbus the Americas have been controlled by slavers and exploiters. It’s the snake belly mentality of looters and thugs.

    Today, rather than VOTE, Americans were willing to hand the POWER of the House and Senate back to those responsible for destroying their lives. Instead of kicking out the remainder of the Rethuglicans and putting “Gold Sacks” Obama on notice for 2012 they sniveled, pouted and blamed. They stayed home.

    There are groups in every city in America calling out for Justice and Equality, and they need help. Anyone can join and take action at any time. But will they?

    The great thing about Cheney/Bush and Boehner is their transparency. They know they’re thugs and they know you know they’re thugs. They’re on point 24/7 and they ain’t gonna quit. “We the people—”, masochistic, stupid or both, can’t even make it out the front door. The TSA is the least of our problems. This article is just more red meat for the do nothings.

      “—this is the way the World ends—this is the way the World ends—not with a bang—but a WHIMPER—”

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By garth, November 28, 2010 at 2:16 pm Link to this comment

Now that they entrapped a young Somali man in Portland Oregon in a “Terrorist” act, the ‘stop and frisk’ routine will be next on the agenda. 

Then comes the need to have your papers.  You’ll need to carry your papers with you at all times.

Reinforcements are coming for Ruth Marcus and her disgraceful piece written for Truthdig about the TSA insanity. 

First, it was Nina Totenberg of NPR and PBS’s Inside Washingtion.  She and Ruth must have co-authored Ruth’s piece.

(You know, I don’t think these press and media people have to go through the pat downs nor the scanners.  I think they get the ‘Green’ light.)

Today, in the Boston Sunday Globe, Erin McKean in “The Word” reassures her readers that
“...backscatter X-ray technology (another unfamiliar term:  Traditional X-rays go through what is being X-rayed, but backscatter X-rays reflect off the surface)”

Yeah, right.  Very reassuring. 

Does the Oncologist give you a discount when you tell him that the lump in your chest or in your groin was probably caused by too much backscatter?

I don’t think so.

My Poem (to be sung in falsetto)

TSA,
backscatter X-Ray,
MRI,
RIP.

Next time you’re in line ask the TSA agent if they could a shot of you hugging him.  C’mon step in the booth.

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By G.Anderson, November 28, 2010 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

As long as the government of this country is owned and operated by the plutocracy it
will view the people of this country as a threat to it’s existence more deadly than, all
the made up terrorists and paranoid fears combined. Because only the people have the
power to take back their government and prosecute traitors who swore to defend the
constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. They want to turn this country into
a police state, to destroy are freedoms, because freedom itself is what they really fear.
Because their view of the world is very similar to those armed nations they are fighting
far from our shores. There they have gotten a good look at themselves, the have met
the enemy, and it is us.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 28, 2010 at 11:07 am Link to this comment

ITW,

I clearly and quickly corrected a very minor mistake.  A mistake which you are using to distract from your small-minded bigoted comments.  Comments intended to divide and foster hate.

Would you like to take the time to explain why you’re focusing on one infinitesimal mistake amongst a long list of liberal violence, death and destruction?  Or is it your intention to simply ignore the larger point in hopes that no one will notice?

-

When, ITW?  When will you wake-up to your bigotry and end this spread of hatred?  What you do is needless and dangerous.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 28, 2010 at 10:31 am Link to this comment

GRYM:
You continue the lie. They weren’t Black Panthers.  They were NBPP. Period. 

That’s like claiming National Socialists (nazis) are Reds because they use “socialist” in their name.

The Black Panther Party has totally condemned and denounced this group, the NBPP.

It’s a lie, pure and simple.  You know it. You continue it.  That means it is intentional on your part, as it always is.

Barbie: All one has to show is that an argument contains ONE deliberate lie to legitimately toss it all out.  Just ask any scientist who cheated and faked ONE number and got caught by his peers.

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By fearnotruth, November 28, 2010 at 3:18 am Link to this comment

Just out of curiosity; which of my positions do you see as radical right-wing?  Is it my pro choice, pro gun-
control, pro Wall Street regulation, pro same-sex-unions and anti capital punishment views which make me
radical?

Good heavens, finally at the confessional. And while there, let’s all now confess that on these issues, we agree. Bravo, agreed!

So, where’s the polemic? Of course, the really important issue: what to do about these bleeding wars?

Polls show an overwhelming majority of people, the world over, do not want them.

What forces them if they’re so unwanted? Obviously, provocations.

Important question: are the provocations real or fake?

Important answer: who benefits?

Answer that question, honestly, and you know who is making these heinously tragic wars. Know who’s making them and you know whom should be tried for War Crimes!

Are we still agreed? Good, let’s get to it:

1. INVESTIGATE
2. INDICT
3. PROSECUTE
4. EXECUTE

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By Go Right Young Man, November 27, 2010 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment

Arabian Sinbad,

You’re interesting.  Particularly wherein you opine that, right or wrong, one should side with liberals over others.

Just out of curiosity; which of my positions do you see as radical right-wing?  Is it my pro choice, pro gun-control, pro Wall Street regulation, pro same-sex-unions and anti capital punishment views which make me radical?

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By Myron DeCamp, November 27, 2010 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment
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MAY 27, 2010
The Tobin Tax: The Fix-It Plan Wall Street Hates … But Can’t Seem to Kill

BY MARTIN HUTCHINSON, Contributing Editor, Money Morning

“German Chancellor Angela Merkel recently came out in favor of a “Tobin tax” - a small tax on financial transactions, proportionate to the size of the transaction. The Tobin tax idea also has been proposed by Britain’s former prime minister, Gordon Brown, and was proposed in Congress by U.S. Rep.
Peter DeFazio, D-OR. “
——————————-
Now, there’s some hopeful news, a little light shining through in a world that seems to be a gauntlet that is run in a dark funhouse, where nonsense and spin take precedence over real news, and facts are never checked. 

To paraphrase David Cornwell, Mussolini said that Fascism is when there’s only a cigarette paper’s thickness between politics and business.  He thought he already the media under his thumb.

Our media and its henchpersons take the unwary for a Wild spin, like a carnival ride.

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By Arabian Sinbad, November 27, 2010 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment

By BarbieQue, November 28 at 1:39 am
====================================
Though your name is unfamiliar on Truthdig, I was surprised that you took the side GYRM against ITW and you give the impression that you’re familiar with both of those individuals who are regular commentators on Truthdig.

Out of curiosity, I linked to World Trade #7,WTC7.NET and after a cursory look at the items on this link, I got the impression that you posted this link by way of refuting the official story of the 9/11 event, and by implication you believe that 9/11 was an inside job done by Bush & gang (i.e. Republicans.)

I don’t know if it ever crossed your mind that a fanatic right-winger, such as GYRM, whom you’re defending against the liberal ITW, would appreciate what seems to be a clear contradiction! I hope that he will not tear you to pieces for suggesting that his fanatic right-wingers were responsible for 9/11, either by commission or omission!

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By Go Right Young Man, November 27, 2010 at 9:35 pm Link to this comment

Excuse me - The two New Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.  Nor was the Virginia Tech shooter.  We can likely assume the Somali-born teen arrested in a recent car bomb plot is not a Neo-Con. 

When will you ITW? - When will you wake-up to your bigotry and end this spread of hatred?  What you do is needless and dangerous.

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By BarbieQue, November 27, 2010 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, November 28 at 12:07 am:

You managed to miss the point yet again.

I’d be willing to bet you aren’t going to tackle the other 15 items GRYM brought up? Congratulations for writing 5 pages on a tomato/tamato insignificance.

I would probably disagree with GRYM more times than agree on things generally but he is “right” on here:

GRYM:“I could literally go on and on, but let’s try to have some perspective here. Violence is a product of the fringe, on either side, and it’s sickening to try to use it for political advantage.”

Sickening indeed. Just like the coordinated attack by the “leftist” WAPO spin brigade on those of us that don’t think we should be groped or irradiated when we travel within our own country. F’n Sickening. As if the people that bought that bunch of malarkey would have been happy with grope and scope if Bush did it.

ITW: Are you ok lately? Maybe have a bowl of chicken soup or something, your latest posts are even more hysterical than ever.

Take a walk. Look at trees or a sunset or a puppy. If we in this country don’t unite pretty GD soon we’re all going to be bitching at ourselves in a work camp, run by the Chinese.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 27, 2010 at 7:07 pm Link to this comment

{i]
  * The two Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.
*****************

This is why I dislike you, GRYM.  You know DAMN well this statement is flatly false.  Yet you throw it out there as if it was factual, WHEN YOU KNOW IT IS NOT!!!!!

It was members of the “New Black Panther Party”. 

They are NOT in any way associated with the Black Panthers. You know that, too, yet you perpetuate the falsehood.  Those guys weren’t Black Panthers.

In fact, it is clear they are trying to say that the Black Panthers aren’t the Black Panthers anymore, and that the NBPP has taken over that mantle…all 20 or so of them.

From Wikipedia:
“Despite its name, NBPP is not an official successor to the Black Panther Party.[2] Members of the original Black Panther Party have insisted that this party is illegitimate and have vociferously objected that there “is no new Black Panther Party”.[2] The Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center identify the New Black Panthers as a hate group.[3][4]”

And from REAL Black Panthers:

The Huey P. Newton Foundation issued a news release denouncing the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. Their release reads in part:

“    As guardian of the true history of the Black Panther Party, the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation, which includes former leading members of the Party, denounces this group’s exploitation of the Party’s name and history. Failing to find its own legitimacy in the black community, this band would graft the Party’s name upon itself, which we condemn… [T]hey denigrate the Party’s name by promoting concepts absolutely counter to the revolutionary principles on which the Party was founded… The Black Panthers were never a group of angry young militants full of fury toward the “white establishment.” The Party operated on love for black people, not hatred of white people.[42]    ”

Bobby Seale, one of the co-founding members of the original Black Panther Party, spoke out against the New Black Panther Party. Calling the rhetoric of the New Black Panther Party “xenophobic”, he spoke of their remarks as, “absurd, racial, [and] categorical”.

“Just to hate another person because [of] the color of their skin or their ethnicity — we don’t do that. That’s not what the goal objective is. The goal objective is human liberation. The goal objective is the greater community cooperation and humanism. The goal objective is to get rid of institutionalized racism….[43]”

So yet again, GRYM is setting up deliberately false information to try to “bend” a discussion to his POV.

To knowingly post false information to defame someone (in this case the Black Panthers) is the mark of someone (as you have often accused others of) without honor.

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By fearnotruth, November 27, 2010 at 6:06 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...two Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with
nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.

sounds like classic COINTEL provocateurs - to be sure some of this nonsense is
by true believers - typically useful fools - why useful? obviously, it keeps the
underclasses infighting, while our common enemy, the Global Finance
Oligarchy, go untouched

so, how to touch them - use the law: TOBIN TAX

curiously, so rarely is the Tobin Tax ever discussed - not complicated: 1% tax
on all financial transactions - a nominal sales tax on Wall Street commerce in
financial instruments - nothing compared to the sales tax on most
consumables in most states - read about it here -
http://moneymorning.com/2010/05/27/tobin-tax/

MAY 27, 2010
The Tobin Tax: The Fix-It Plan Wall Street Hates … But Can’t Seem to Kill

BY MARTIN HUTCHINSON, Contributing Editor, Money Morning

German Chancellor Angela Merkel recently came out in favor of a “Tobin tax” -
a small tax on financial transactions, proportionate to the size of the
transaction. The Tobin tax idea also has been proposed by Britain’s former
prime minister, Gordon Brown, and was proposed in Congress by U.S. Rep.
Peter DeFazio, D-OR. 

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By Go Right Young Man, November 27, 2010 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

ITW,

Rachel Maddow?  There is no guessing where you are daily fed your diet of hate and intolerance.  You’re such an hypocrite.

  * It was not the fear of conservative violence that caused Ann Coulter’s speech to be canceled last March.
  * It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man who disagreed with him on health-care.
  * It was liberal SEIU members who beat a black vendor at a rally while calling him a Nigger.
  * It was Obama-supporter Amy Bishop who took a gun to work and murdered co-workers.
  * Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building after writing an anti-conservative manifesto.
  * It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers outside of Seattle.
  * It’s liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships. 
  * It’s doubtful that a conservative fired shots into a GOP campaign headquarters.
  * Don’t forget it was Obama’s friend Bill Ayers who used terrorism as a tool for political change. SDS is still radical, with arrests in 2007 and the storming of the CATO Institute in July 2008.
  * It was a liberal who was sentenced to two years for bringing bombs and riot shields to the Republican National Convention in 2008.
  * It was a liberal who threatened to kill a government informant who infiltrated her Austin-based group that planned to bomb the RNC.
  * It was liberals who assaulted police in Berkeley.
  * It was liberals who intimidated and threw rocks through the windows of university researchers.
  * The two Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.
  * Every time the G20 gets together, it’s not conservatives who regularly injure dozens, destroy property and cause chaos.
  * Pentagon shooter, John Patrick Bedell, was a registered Democrat and the Holocaust museum shooter, James Von Brunn, was an “anti-Christian, 9/11 ‘truther’ who, like yourself, hated the Bushes and the phantom “Neo-Cons”. 

I could literally go on and on, but let’s try to have some perspective here. Violence is a product of the fringe, on either side, and it’s sickening to try to use it for political advantage.

When will you yourself wake-up to your debilitating bigotry and end this spread of hatred?  What you do here is needless and dangerous.

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By REDHORSE, November 27, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

Repeal of the Patriot Act would dampen some of this “for profit” manufactured paranoia. This is just another cash cow for the prison industrialists. And, it is a psy-op. Criminalization of citizens by suspicion and violation of personal dignity at the Airport is the warm-up for State border “papers” checks. It makes all Americans destructable. Seizure of cars, homes and cash is big money. And the Cops bid on the seizures. Lawyers make fortunes off the racket.—-Can’t afford a lawyer? Plead or kiss your a$$/property good-bye.

  Drug testing is huge prison industrial bucks as well. None of us want an out of control “stoner” or “drunk” driving a forklift or drugs in our Schools but drugs are a billion dollar industry. Sane drug laws would wipe out corporate prison industrial profits. It was the police and the prison guards union that squealed loudest at the California Prop to decriminalize marijuana.

    “Drugs”/“terrorists” are for profit driven psy-ops used to allow the continued criminalization of citizens and propagandist fear mongering to cover the unjust criminal enterprise now taking Amertica apart one citizen at a time.

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By garth, November 27, 2010 at 2:10 pm Link to this comment

It’s as if, the overly intrusive ‘pat-downs’ called airport security are meant to herd travelers into the scanning machines.

The scan yields a very nice x-ray picture which in time could serve as the individual’s ‘Shroud of Turin.’

In a few months or a few years when the number of Cancer cases in the US spike and the victims seek out curations at the various Cancer Treatment Centers, which are opening like sub shops in the inner city, the shroud can be used as a sacrosanct memento of the patient’s traveling days.

The effects of x-rays are cumulative: 1+1=2.

Cellular damage

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By mack894, November 27, 2010 at 2:16 am Link to this comment

Sometime around the patriot act, we the people became suspects
and thus objects of enforcement techniques such as illegal
searches, physical manhandling, and illegal detainment. It’s best to
treat all people as if they are dark skinned Middle Easterners,
radical jihadists. Don’t worry, the courts will back this up.

You know, I’m not worried about terrorists from the Middle East or
from Oklahoma.  I am worried about Wall St terrorists and banker
robbers who can crash the economy and not only get away with it,
avail themselves with taxpayer rewards as bailouts. I’m more
worried about corporate terrorists who have invaded democracy
and usurped the process. I don’t worry about osama bin laden
more than I worry about the hundred of thousands of Madoffs who
enjoy their taxpayer-financed perks and other luxuries.

To succumb to this is idiotic and a slippery slope to the opposite
of democracy, which we shouldn’t have to sacrifice for the likes of
an underwear bomber.  But try penalizing bankers who have
subverted the HAMP program for their own profit, not one who has
been even reprimanded for taking govt money and not using it for
its stated purpose.

I wonder if I scrawled eff you on my torso if it would show up on a
body scan at the airport?  Cuz that’s the only thing that would
motivate me to go through that thing.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 26, 2010 at 11:30 pm Link to this comment

Thanks, AS:
I would remind you that Groucho Marx (the only kind of Marxism I admire) discovered that the US Customs Service (the forerunner to the TSA) had no sense of humor and picked apart every piece of his luggage and held him for hours when he put down as his occupation: “Smuggler”.

When even Groucho couldn’t get a laugh out of them you KNOW they aren’t big on comedy….

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By Arabian Sinbad, November 26, 2010 at 10:25 pm Link to this comment

By Inherit The Wind, November 27 at 12:03 am

Excellent comment!

As for me, as I followed the newest manifestations of the so-called security tactics in the form of pat-downs and imaging technology, I felt that if Ben Laden was still alive, he would be laughing himself to the farting point in ecstasy for achieving his desired goals of keeping “Great America” on the edge!

As I watched these crazy things unfold, I didn’t know whether to cry or laugh! I even suggested to my wife the crazy idea of making a political statement by creating a miniature effigy of Ben Laden which I would wear as underwear under my pants while I go through the imaging machine! She told me that while I might make national news, I might end in jail for a good period of time till the courts decide whether this kind of free expression is allowed under the new rules of an increasingly police state!

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By Inherit The Wind, November 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

david, November 26 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment
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There apparently is no real terrorist threat in the USA. If there was, we would have
people doing destructive acts at all kinds of public events, like NFL football games.
Can you imagine the public reaction if we were subjecting football fans to pat
downs while coming in to stadiums? Look at the billions spent on airport security
since 911, but we still have foreign ships entering our ports with almost no
surveillance. What’s going on is not rational, but fearful minds are not rational.
FDR was right on that score—we have nothing to fear but fear itself.

*********************

I guess you haven’t been to a game at Giants Stadium or now the New Meadowlands Stadium…pat-downs have been routine for at least years now.  Entry to the stadium is extremely slow.

I also guess you haven’t seen the recent Rachel Madow show about the rash of terrorism in America since the 1980’s.  It’s been rampant, it’s been all over, with hundreds of bombings and at least a dozen deaths.  What horrible organization is systematically terrorizing the USA?

Is it Al Qaeda?  No!
Is it Iran? No!
Is it a nihilist-Marxist conspiracy? No!
Is it even foreign? No!

It’s home-grown, run by Americans who self-righteously claim they are doing God’s Work.  They are the anti-abortion movement, especially Operation Rescue, who are using intimidation and aiding and abetting terrorists by publicizing choice targets on the Internet.  Even Fox Noise helps them—as they showed the Bill O’Reilly repeated called Dr. Tiller “The Killer” until he was finally murdered point-blank by a gun fired against his head.

The terror is real, it’s here, and it’s far more dangerous than any foreigner.  It acts with the impunity that the KKK once operated with.

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By garth, November 26, 2010 at 12:16 pm Link to this comment

“fearnotruth, November 25 at 8:37 pm

RE: V.P. FrankenChenny is the real power behind President Obama.

straw-man satire

As for the real power behind President Obama?

Air Force Purge Confirms Brzezinski/Obama Faction in Control, Neo-Cons are Out

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200806/1212860127.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
(Free-Press-Release.com) June 7, 2008—
By Webster G. Tarpley


Washington DC, June 6 – Yesterday’s extraordinary simultaneous ouster of the Secretary of the Air Force and the Air Force chief of staff, followed by the naming of Trilateral Commissioner and Carter administration veteran James Rodney Schlesinger to purge USAF generals and colonels, dramatically
documents the fact that power in Washington DC is no long in the hands of the Bush-Cheney-neocon clique, but has passed to the Brzezinski-Trilateral
faction.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced the firing of Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley, citing
the failure of the Air Force to maintain the security of strategic nuclear forces, as shown in the infamous rogue B-52 incident of late August 2007, when a B-52 intercontinental strategic bomber with six nuclear armed cruise missiles flew
from North Dakota to Louisiana totally outside of the purview of the USAF command control and communications systems. Gates also mentioned that four high-tech electrical nosecone fuses for Minuteman nuclear warheads were sent
to Taiwan in place of helicopter batteries, along with other failures.

Gates is a leading member of the Principals’ Committee, an interagency group which now runs the US government from day to day with scant reference to the discredited outgoing lame ducks Bush and Cheney, who stay on mainly as figureheads. The Principals’ Committee has been in charge of the US
government since no later than early May, around the time of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, when the controlled corporate media began
trumpeting that Obama was the winner of the Democratic nomination. The Principals’ Committee is made up of Pentagon boss Gates, Secretary of State
Rice, NSC director Hadley, Joint Chiefs of Staff head Mullen, intelligence czar McConnell, along with a few others. These figures are now marching to the
tune of Trilateral Commission bigwigs like Zbigniew Brzezinski, Joseph Nye, and the Rockefeller family. These are the same forces who own and control the Wall Street Manchurian candidate Obama. It is notable that the high-profile purge of
the USAF came less than 48 hours after Obama had unilaterally proclaimed himself the Democratic presidential nominee.
———————————————————————
Webster G. Tarpley, where have you been all this time?  You have been right all along.  You said this four or five years ago.

———————————————————

The recent deal (reported on Thanksgiving Day, 2010)with the Russian Oligarchs to allow ‘NATO” forces to enter Afghanistan via Russia sends mixed signals.  Have the Russian Nouveau Riche joined forces with the Wall Street-City-of-London cabal?  Do the Russians trust the Americans?  (I don’t thimk so.)  Or are they ushering the rich guys on the other side of the table, hopefully, to their downfall?

Is this the answer to a WW III, namely lotsa ‘little’ wars all over the globe?  Money, money, money,  It’s cumulative!

And, I need not ask, but I will, rhetorically, will we still have to pay for it through the deaths of our deluded younger generations and in our austerity?

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By david, November 26, 2010 at 11:36 am Link to this comment
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There apparently is no real terrorist threat in the USA. If there was, we would have
people doing destructive acts at all kinds of public events, like NFL football games.
Can you imagine the public reaction if we were subjecting football fans to pat
downs while coming in to stadiums? Look at the billions spent on airport security
since 911, but we still have foreign ships entering our ports with almost no
surveillance. What’s going on is not rational, but fearful minds are not rational.
FDR was right on that score—we have nothing to fear but fear itself.

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By diamond, November 26, 2010 at 3:40 am Link to this comment

And the printer bomb from ‘Yemen’? That bomb, we are now told, originated in the United States so obviously there are a lot of American terrorists running around putting these printer, underpants, fireworks bombs together. Is it any wonder that Michael Chertoff (who hearts Mossad very much indeed) is so determined to x-ray and grope every single one of these American terrorists. There hasn’t been a lot of media attention to the American printer bomb but, of course, I never expected there would be. As John F. Kennedy said, ‘Failure is an orphan’. Physician heal thyself, if I’m not mistaken.

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By SteveL, November 26, 2010 at 1:12 am Link to this comment

Maybe it comes from living in L.A my whole life but the guy in the photo is no terrorist.  I would be more concerned with the guy having a heart attack while flying.  Oh well I guess they graduate from high school now knowing more about creationism than anything useful.

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By fearnotruth, November 25, 2010 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

RE: V.P. FrankenChenny is the real power behind President Obama.

straw-man satire

As for the real power behind President Obama?

Air Force Purge Confirms Brzezinski/Obama Faction in Control, Neo-Cons
are Out

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200806/1212860127.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
(Free-Press-Release.com) June 7, 2008—
By Webster G. Tarpley


Washington DC, June 6 – Yesterday’s extraordinary simultaneous ouster of the
Secretary of the Air Force and the Air Force chief of staff, followed by the
naming of Trilateral Commissioner and Carter administration veteran James
Rodney Schlesinger to purge USAF generals and colonels, dramatically
documents the fact that power in Washington DC is no long in the hands of the
Bush-Cheney-neocon clique, but has passed to the Brzezinski-Trilateral
faction.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced the firing of Air Force Secretary
Michael W. Wynne and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. T. Michael Moseley, citing
the failure of the Air Force to maintain the security of strategic nuclear forces,
as shown in the infamous rogue B-52 incident of late August 2007, when a B-
52 intercontinental strategic bomber with six nuclear armed cruise missiles flew
from North Dakota to Louisiana totally outside of the purview of the USAF
command control and communications systems. Gates also mentioned that four
high-tech electrical nosecone fuses for Minuteman nuclear warheads were sent
to Taiwan in place of helicopter batteries, along with other failures.

Gates is a leading member of the Principals’ Committee, an interagency group
which now runs the US government from day to day with scant reference to the
discredited outgoing lame ducks Bush and Cheney, who stay on mainly as
figureheads. The Principals’ Committee has been in charge of the US
government since no later than early May, around the time of the Indiana and
North Carolina primaries, when the controlled corporate media began
trumpeting that Obama was the winner of the Democratic nomination. The
Principals’ Committee is made up of Pentagon boss Gates, Secretary of State
Rice, NSC director Hadley, Joint Chiefs of Staff head Mullen, intelligence czar
McConnell, along with a few others. These figures are now marching to the
tune of Trilateral Commission bigwigs like Zbigniew Brzezinski, Joseph Nye, and
the Rockefeller family. These are the same forces who own and control the Wall
Street Manchurian candidate Obama. It is notable that the high-profile purge of
the USAF came less than 48 hours after Obama had unilaterally proclaimed
himself the Democratic presidential nominee.

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By REDHORSE, November 25, 2010 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

Again. It was never about the “weed”. The “drug war” allowed the introduction of Police State violations of Constitutonal Liberty. It was a for profit enterprise that built the Prison/Industrial complex. It enriched tens of thousands of “dope lawyers”, made the careers of thousands of District Attorneys, and built a data base of citizens while it criminalized and destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans.

  It is well known that the criminal conspiracy laws are used by thug law enforcement throughout America to net income for city and county budgets. They seize property and force the poor to make probationary payments or face jail. All they need is a “junky” to write your name down. Now, “-pay us, plead guilty and receive probation or face twenty-five to life-”. It’s well documented.——Nine billion dollars can disappear without at trace or a blink but some High School kid with a bag of reefer is the moral enemy of the State!—Spare me.

  How long until your T.V. has a two way cam. Your computer already does. And, its been used to track suspected students. Hey “lets put scanners at the mall”. You know its coming. Do you think they’ll give it up if and when the Wars stop? Its Nomi Kliens DISASTER CAPITALISM. You’re down and they’re gonna exploit it keep you down and, you’re gonna pay’em to do it.

  They are paranoid insane megalomaniacal psychopaths and by their definition all free men and women are criminal.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 25, 2010 at 10:31 am Link to this comment

How should a good, patriotic, wide-eyed progressive feel about this?

Prior to 2008 these types of security protocols was said to be proof-positive of a Neo-Con Cabal in the White House poised to takeover the world.  There was no arguing the point.  Well, that theory turned out to be completely incoherent after-all.

Judging from the recent media coverage and the posts on this and other Web spaces; patriotic progressives have yet to narrow in on a single evil phantom to point at.

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I think it’s wise to ignore the fact that a determined enemy has already begun testing and deploying explosives inside various human body cavities.  There must be another explanation for these protocols. - Personally, I believe V.P. FrankenChenny is the real power behind President Obama.

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By SoTexGuy, November 25, 2010 at 8:31 am Link to this comment

The author is right.. these intrusive personal searches will especially rankle adult white guys.. I’ve seen something similar here with managers and honchos from up north simply being asked at immigration enforcement stops (apparently for the first time in their lives) if they are an American citizen. They’ll turn red and blow up like a dead toad on hot pavement!

But there’s a solution being offered.. those who can afford the process are allowed a ‘special certification’ that allows them and their vehicles to bypass the waiting and the questioning.. and breeze right through. The average rabble citizenry need not apply.

Soon, the same will be available at airports.. It will be like First Class.. but door-to-door, all inclusive. Not simply a comfy seat and a private nook on the plane out of sight of the masses.

Surely the only thing stalling this now is how to accommodate and board our betters who have all the right passes and connections out of sight of all the rest of us standing and sweating (and disrobing) in long lines..

It’s a sensitivity issue, right?

Adios!

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By Fat Freddy, November 25, 2010 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

Mr Coleman, are you a Koch funded libertarian? Apparently all of the recent protests of the TSA procedures are “plants” of some Koch funded organization. This is according to Mark Ames and Yasha Levine, in a recent article at The Nation.

TSAstroturf: The Washington Lobbyists and Koch-Funded Libertarians Behind the TSA Scandal

http://www.thenation.com/article/156647/tsastroturf-washington-lobbyists-and-koch-funded-libertarians-behind-tsa-scandal

Glenn Greenwald, of Salon.com, wrote a scathing criticism of the article:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/11/24/tyner/index.html

Which prompted a response by Ames and Levine, where they attacked Koch funded libertarians, again.

http://www.thenation.com/article/156679/response-glenn-greenwald#comment-851690

They say they respect Mr Greenwald, but i guess that they don’t know about Mr Greenwald’s connections to Koch funded organizations. Mr Greenwald wrote a paper, which was published by The Cato Institute, which was co-founded by Charles Koch, and brother David currently sits on the Board. I guess, by their standards, that would make Mr Greenwald a Koch funded Astroturfer.

Glenn Greenwald for Cato:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=5887

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/glenn-greenwald-on-reason-tv/

I guess all you Truthdiggers, here, are also Koch funded plants, or as I like to say, “Kochtopussies”.

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By Leefeller, November 25, 2010 at 6:43 am Link to this comment

Humiliating depends on the eyes of the beholder. Back during the draft when they made everyone during their selective service physical while standing in a row, bend over and spread them, now that seemed humiliating and intrusive,...... and as a topper they used the same glove for everyone? ......Makes me wonder how the space ship aliens do it?

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By fearnotruth, November 25, 2010 at 12:36 am Link to this comment

RE: ...eventually they would do to everyone as they have done to their ‘target’
groups for years…

this came up before I finished posting - addressing it here:

several years ago I posted a question on another blog: “if so many of the Gitmo
detainees are patsies (as we’ve learned they are), why torture them?” A convincing
answer came back: “Obviously, to terrorize us all. We can do this to anyone.
Don’t forget it!

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By fearnotruth, November 25, 2010 at 12:27 am Link to this comment

discussing this in terms of Constitutional transgression misses its essence -

it’s an evermore essential angle in the rolling psy-op that is The Global War Of Terror - the psychology: they wouldn’t do it if the terror threat weren’t so serious - boloney - if you believe that you’re duped

the so-call Underwear Bomber supposedly inspired this - view it here - 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o1Qv6oyiVU and here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTiXTjqjK9U - follow the money - qui bono?

the False-Flag MO of late is more fizzled terror attacks (e.g. toner bombs, times-square car bomb) -  on close inspection both unravel as false-flag provocations - now a days fizzled is good enough - view it here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJZ6mdbwzQY

and, of course, more fake bin Laden tapes - check it here -
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=623548?related

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By diamond, November 25, 2010 at 12:08 am Link to this comment

There is no upside, so stop pretending there is. This is harassment and breach of civil liberties and the criminalization of everyone who travels by plane. Of course the security services and the intelligence services can’t see they’re doing anything wrong but when have they ever? These are the people who kidnapped a Canadian citizen (Maher Arar) who had committed no crime from a US airport and sent him to Syria where he was tortured for a year. It was his wife who saved his life, not the media and not the justice system. It’s as if on this subject they can’t be told and, of course, they’ve got a lot of their own crimes to hide and what better way to hide them than to point the finger at everyone else? What’s going on is a disgrace but no more disgraceful than what they’ve already done. I told people and have told them for years that eventually they would do to everyone as they have done to their ‘target’ groups for years but they didn’t believe me. Maybe they believe me now when they see that the war on terror is a war on all of us and our liberties.

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By Marisacat, November 24, 2010 at 10:32 pm Link to this comment

So this article is the bridge to mollify for the idiocy and fanbot work of Marcus and Robinson?

TOO FUCKING LATE.

And poor Sheer, he only revs up and inches lefty when he has a book to sell.  Like now.

Basta.  A tired page of tired writers.

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By gerard, November 24, 2010 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment

A reminder:  “Security” is a HUGE business.  How many people are employed in various forms of “surveillance” who would otherwise be out of a job with nowhere to get another?  How much money would NOT be earned in profits from companies and agencies by the hundreds, employing men and women by the thousands bo manufacture, maintain, promote and store all the instruments, all the “information” computerized and stored under the guise of “national security?”

And another reminder:  In spite of all these aggressions of government, both freedom and justice recede farther into the distant past and it is possible that they will be forgotten within a few more years of suspicion, degradation and insult.

Can this be stopped by refusal to travel by air?  Actually, the air itself would probably thank us for cutting back on contrails—even for a few days—if it knew how—a secondary benefit.
  But no.  Like so many other problems, that solution doesn’t address the basic issues which are:
  How to stop wars on terror that are causing more terror?
  How to stop efforts to make us more secure which are actually making us less secure?
  How to create jobs for people whose economic situation is so insecure that securing an income is more important to them than making other people feel insecure by “patting them down:—which, incidentally, carries heavy and demeaning overtones of the relationship of owners to their pets—not to mention sexual implications.
  It’s a mad, mad world.

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By Kay Johnson, November 24, 2010 at 6:42 pm Link to this comment

I was patted down at Boston Logan Airport in December of 2001. I won’t go into
details, but I was horrified by the way I was treated by the security guards. and the female guard even giggled as she ran her fingers across my breasts. Humiliating doesn’t begin to cover the experience! At that time, I wrote letters to my two lovely senators—Schumer and Clinton—and also to my lovely representative—Rangel—and received NO responses from any of them.

Somehow, on the Internet, I connected to a woman whose daughter, as I recall,
had been treated in a similar way. She was a Republican, and was as completely
disgusted as I was. Then, somehow, Lew Rockwell found me and asked me
some questions. He had been running across countless stories like mine, and I
believe, at that time, he wrote an article about the so-called pat downs and
frisks.

No one else let out a peep, or was interested. So much for progressives—and
concerned citizens.

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