Comment: I, too, am angry about the Democrats that supported GWB in his immoral, illegal and stupid war policies concerning Iraq and Afghanistan, but especially Iraq. So, Rand and Ron Paul were right on this issue. But again, what about Rand Paul’s position on the Civil Rights Act of 1964? You haven’t responded to that yet.
(Answering haroldbeu) I’m not Rand Paul’s press secretary. I strongly supported and support the Civil Rights Act. I picketed for it, I wrote articles favoring it. I don’t know why that got to be the big issue here. He is not running for president. ... It was Martin Luther King who was much more concerned with the economic issue of people, and both Democrats and Republicans have betrayed the interests of black and brown people and those who got stuck with subprime mortgages, and that’s the pressing civil rights issue right now. What the banks did to the people is an atrocity, and the government bailing out the banks and ignoring the people is an outrage. And I think civil rights is a red herring and a distraction.
3:16 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:16:48 GMT
...and what a cop-out, when you have a Democratic president who claims to be a former organizer ... and we are cutting child care for poor children and I am supposed to be upset at Rand Paul?? What are we talking here? Where is the great outrage about what Bill Clinton did in deregulating the financial sector and allowing the mischief that has allowed so much destruction in the world economy?
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:17:41 GMT
Bob, you say in your column that Paul is a distraction. Are websites like ours doing a disservice by reporting so often on the antics of the Sarah Palins and Rand Pauls of the world?
3:20 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:20:26 GMT
Well, yes. I do think so. It’s letting the people of real power off the hook. I think Sarah Palin and Rand Paul are sideshows, and yes, I do think that’s a mistake. I only got involved because it upsets me that they are ignoring the important criticism that Rand Paul and his father have said. Without Ron Paul, we would not be having an audit of the Federal Reserve, and we are entitled to it. And if [it was] not for Ron Paul, we wouldn’t have a chance of getting an audit. So I do applaud the presence of some libertarian voices out there saying, wait a minute, you’re wasting our money. I think that the government and private sectors are both menaces and when they both join and get their way, it gets dangerous, and I’m happy the Pauls are willing to criticize that.
3:22 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:22:22 GMT
Let me add, in all my political life, I have admired Barney Frank; he’s decent, sensible, logical. Why is Barney Frank, who is in charge of the banking regulation bill—why is he opposed to Blanche Lincoln’s amendment preventing the same big banks from engaging in these derivatives? They should not be allowed to do this. If Goldman Sachs wants to be playing with uncontrolled derivatives, they should be doing it on their own nickel and not as currently, in a government-backed bank.
3:22 Comment From haroldbeu
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:22:25 GMT
Comment: Sure, he is not running for president, but there is the issue of ideology that I think is important. Rand Paul acts like demanding businesses not to discriminate is akin to demanding people to allow blacks into their homes. There is a place for government to get involved in such matters. It is important to be mindful that businesses provide services, and to deny people those services can cause true hardship; say for example my daughter needs insulin and there is only one pharmacy in town. And besides, Rand Paul is acting like a national actor. He is trying to influence all Americans with his ideology. It is a false dichotomy to suggest that we can’t criticize Paul and Obama both.
3:24 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:24:55 GMT
Well, I am not opposed to criticizing Rand Paul; I am not a libertarian, and on the big issues, I disagree with him. I favor more government spending on meeting the needs of poor people, expanding health care. I just don’t want to waste trillions on the banks and on the war. He is not someone I would vote for. I just mean people are picking on the Rand Paul problem and ignoring the things he is saying on the bailouts. It is just an easy way of ignoring our past presidents who got us into this mess. To paraphrase an old campaign, “It’s the establishment, stupid.”
3:25 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:25:20 GMT
Not referring to the commenter, but you get my point.
3:25 Comment From Kasia
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:25:22 GMT
Comment: I have a question for you, Bob: Do you think the GOP, rather than distancing itself from “outliers” and potential renegade types like Palin, tea party members, Rand Paul, etc., will be obliged to try to assimilate these figures and viewpoints in order to have a fighting chance in 2010 and 2012?
3:25 amities via twitter
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:25:53 GMT
RandPaul: Illegal immigrants come to U.S. for generous welfare state .... yea real generous (http://is.gd/clkXQ).
Support Jack Conway for Kentucky senator. We as a state CANNOT AFFORD to allow RandPaul to become a U.S senator.
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:27:35 GMT
(Bob is currently responding to the question from Kasia.)
3:27 Robert Scheer
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:27:38 GMT
I think there’s a big difference between Palin and both Pauls. I don’t think Palin is a serious person, politically; I don’t think she has a well-thought-out position. I remain shocked that McCain thought that she should be a heartbeat from being president of the USA. I think that is an outrage.
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:28:16 GMT
Question from the Internet: “Is Rand Paul being investigated far more than Obama was by the media? “It seems I now know, less than a week after his national debut, far more about Rand Paul than I did about Obama before the election. And he’s only a candidate for the Senate.
“Why is the media so interested in him? Is it because he’s a successful doctor? Because he has helped so many people with his own hands ? Is it the ideas in his head ?”
3:28 Comment From haroldbeu
Thu, 27 May 2010 23:28:57 GMT
Comment: OK, Robert, the Pauls are right on several issues. I think Libertarianism and Ayn Rand’s objectivism seem logical in the abstract, but have little to do with reality. Besides, I wonder if the tea party folk know that Ayn Rand was pro-choice and against the war in Vietnam? Anyway, it seems that Rand Paul thinks ideologically and to some extent so do the tea party folk. I can sympathize with the anger with the incestuous relationships of the Big Banks, Corporations and Big Government, but the tea party folk tend to want to protect privilege of whites and the wealthy. Just look at their attitudes concerning taxation.