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Israel’s Gift to Iran’s Hard-Liners

Posted on Jun 10, 2010
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Suppressing the Green Movement

From last summer through last winter, the hardliners of the Islamic Republic of Iran were powerfully challenged by reformists, who charged that the June 12, 2009, presidential election had been marked by extensive fraud.  Street protests were so large, crowds so enthusiastic, and the opposition so steadfast that it seemed as if Iran were on the brink of a significant change in its way of doing business, possibly even internationally.  The opposition—the most massive since the Islamic Revolution of 1978-79—was dubbed the Green Movement, because green is the color of the descendants of the Prophet Muhammad, among whom losing presidential candidate Mirhossein Moussavi is counted.  Although some movement supporters were secularists, many were religious, and so disarmingly capable of deploying the religious slogans and symbols of the Islamic Republic against the regime itself.


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Where the regime put emphasis on the distant Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the Levant, Green Movement activists chanted (during “Jerusalem Day” last September), “Not Gaza, not Lebanon. I die only for Iran.”  They took their cue from candidate Moussavi, who said he “liked” Palestine but thought waving its flag in Iran excessive.  Moussavi likewise rejected Obama administration insinuations that his movement’s stance on Iran’s nuclear enrichment program was indistinguishable from that of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.  He emphasized instead that he not only did not want a nuclear weapon for Iran, but understood international concerns about such a prospect.  He seemed to suggest that, were he to come to power, he would be far more cooperative with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

The Israeli government liked what it was hearing; Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu even went on “Meet the Press” last summer to praise the Green Movement fulsomely.  “I think something very deep, very fundamental is going on,” he said, “and there’s an expression of a deep desire amid the people of Iran for freedom, certainly for greater freedom.”


Popular unrest only became possible thanks to a split at the top among the civilian ruling elite of clerics and fundamentalists.  When presidential candidates Moussavi, Mehdi Karroubi, and their clerical backers, including Grand Ayatollah Yousef Sanaei and wily former president and billionaire entrepreneur Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, began to challenge the country’s authoritarian methods of governance, its repression of personal liberties, and the quixotic foreign policy of President Ahmadinejad (whom Moussavi accused of making Iran a global laughingstock), it opened space below.

The reformers would be opposed by Iran’s supreme theocrat, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who defended the presidential election results as valid, even as he admitted to his preference for Ahmadinejad’s views.  He was, in turn, supported by most senior clerics and politicians, the great merchants of the bazaar, and most significantly, the officer corps of the police, the basij (civilian militia), the regular army, and the Revolutionary Guards.  Because there would be no significant splits among those armed to defend the regime, it retained an almost unbounded ability to crackdown relentlessly.  In the process, the Revolutionary Guards, generally Ahmadinejad partisans, only grew in power.

A year later, it’s clear that the hardliners have won decisively through massive repression, deploying basij armed with clubs on motorcycles to curb crowds, jailing thousands of protesters, and torturing and executing some of them. The main arrow in the opposition’s quiver was flashmobs, relatively spontaneous mass urban demonstrations orchestrated through Twitter, cell phones, and Facebook.  The regime gradually learned how to repress this tactic through the careful jamming of electronic media and domestic surveillance. (Apparently the Revolutionary Guards now even have a Facebook Espionage Division.)  While the opposition can hope to keep itself alive as an underground civil rights movement, for the moment its chances for overt political change appear slim.

Nuclear Hypocrisy

Though few have noted this, the Green Movement actually threw a monkey wrench into President Obama’s hopes to jump-start direct negotiations with Iran over its nuclear enrichment program.  His team could hardly sit down with representatives of Ayatollah Khamenei while the latter was summarily tossing protesters in filthy prisons to be mistreated and even killed.   On October 1, 2009, however, with the masses no longer regularly in the streets, representatives of the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany met directly with a representative of Khamenei in Geneva.

A potentially pathbreaking nuclear agreement was hammered out whereby Iran would ship the bulk of its already-produced low-enriched uranium (LEU) to another country.  In return, it would receive enriched rods with which it could run its single small medical reactor, producing isotopes for treating cancer.  That reactor had been given to the Shah’s Iran in 1969, and the last consignment of nuclear fuel purchased for it, from Argentina, was running out.  The agreement appealed to the West, because it would deprive Iran of a couple of tons of LEU that, at some point, could theoretically be cycled back through its centrifuges and enriched from 3.5% to over 90%, or weapons grade, for the possible construction of nuclear warheads.  There is no evidence that Iran has such a capability or intention, but the Security Council members agreed that safe was better than sorry.

With Khamenei’s representative back in Iran on October 2, the Iranians suddenly announced that they would take a timeout to study it.  That timeout never ended, assumedly because Khamenei had gotten a case of cold feet. Though we can only speculate, perhaps nuclear hardliners argued that holding onto the country’s stock of LEU seemed to the hardliners like a crucial form of deterrence in itself, a signal to the world that Iran could turn to bomb-making activities if a war atmosphere built.

Given that nuclear latency—the ability to launch a successful bomb-making program—has geopolitical consequences nearly as important as the actual possession of a bomb, Washington, Tel Aviv, and the major Western European powers remain eager to forestall Iran from reaching that status.  As the Geneva fiasco left the impression that the Iranian regime was not ready to negotiate in good faith, the Obama team evidently decided to respond by ratcheting up sanctions on Iran at the Security Council, evidently in hopes of forcing its nuclear negotiators back to the bargaining table.  Meanwhile, Netanyahu was loudly demanding the imposition of “crippling” international sanctions on Tehran.

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By drbhelthi, June 15, 2010 at 3:53 am Link to this comment

The vast majority of folk did not have access to the information,
and those who did were largely insiders or accomplice-treasonists. 

Logically, stooges of the CIA, MOSSAD, similar destructive
groupage, and their string-pullers, refute the info.

Within law enforcement, the concept that criminals often return to
the scene of the crime, has been repeatedly, historically verified.

Observing how well one has done “ones job” is gratifying.

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By Night-Gaunt, June 14, 2010 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment

So far the only evidence I have seen was that Mossad was in the area and saw what happened. They might have known considering all the intelligence sources that warned the Bush/Cheney regime that ignored it all. Maybe they were tasked with observing how the USA does things.

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By tropicgirl, June 14, 2010 at 10:29 am Link to this comment

““only the CIA or Mossad would attack the USA. Right?”“

Right. The way its always been.

In fact, let me say, American involvement in wars, at least since the turn of the
century, if not further back, are ALL a results of a series of false flag events
designed to get our kids to fight and die for things like OIL, MINERALS,

Mostly we split the spoils with England and such. That’s basically it.

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By drbhelthi, June 13, 2010 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

The opinion of every commenter is based on information sources. My information is based on “hard facts,” which very rarely reach TV screens.

Such “hard facts” are only presented in partial segments, when they do, and comparatively few Americans have adequate insider experience to understand them, excepting insider propagandists who distort, distract and cover them up.

Except for a few commenters such as “aarky”, who try to keep their heads low.

My source-type persons are usually not publicized on TV. or anywhere. For very long. . . .
With an occasional exception such as the valiant American, Mr. Scott Ritter.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 13, 2010 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

Lots of opinions little hard facts. Check out the experts, on
Hirsi Ali; Islam needs more competion from Christianity!
Free Press and Free speech in IRAN.
Global perspectives on Iran.
Under the mushroom cloud; Europe , Iran, and the Bomb!
Iran needs tougher sanctions!
I listen to these, 5, videos, easy way to get informed. Give it a try!

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By drbhelthi, June 13, 2010 at 4:45 am Link to this comment

An accurate, political, jewish historian, Mrs. Mae Brussell, a patriotic American,
attended the “general assembly“ meeting called in 1981 by William
J. Casey, after his appointment to chief of the CIA by Ronald
Reagan.  Brussell recorded a key statement by Mr. Casey: “- we will
know that our disinformation program is successful when everything
the American public believes is false.“ 
It is interestingly distressing to me that the “Disinformation
Program” publicized by CIA chief, Bill Casey, at the first general
assembly of the CIA in 1981, has been successful in turning
Americans against Americans, and polluting the intelligence of a
large percentage of interested, non-Americans. 

Much of the falsification has been cleared up and continues to be
cleared up via the internet, and public media leadership, who are
becoming more honest.  Thanks to the scientific and professional
organizations who have verified that the WTC was destroyed via
internal, special-steel-melting explosives, planted by MOSSAD
operatives, disguised as students, over a 4-months period prior to
detonation of the explosives.  And the hoax, “Moslems flying
airliners into the twin towers” is revealed to have been
disinformation funded by the NAZI-israeli-Bilderberger group. 

Little wonder that David Rockefeller and kin, all members of the
Bilderberger “groupage,”  want Kenyan Obama to take over or
destroy the internet and freedom of expression.  Right.  Hide
behind a foreigner - or anyone- to avoid detection and culpability. 
The israeli trade-mark. 

“Uncle Sugar, you attack Iran, at your cost, munitions and lives, and
we wiill back you.” 
T O T A L   N O N S E N S E
Like the recent piracy on the high seas - - similar to the USS
Liberty attack +forty years ago, still politically “white-washed.” 
Israeli cowardice and deception.  Funded by a US “good will
stipend” daily to the tune of +-15 million dollars ?  Plus a billion here
and there - - ?

What with the 41st US “president” having been a NAZI spy, born in
Doerlitzsch, Germany, and the current US “president” being a
Kenyan who doesn’t even qualify to run for the US Presidency, both
of whom were installed via NAZI-israeli-Bildergerger group monies,
via their major tool, the US CIA, _ _ _ and the US Military being
manipulated into committing genocide on the Arab cousins of the
alleged “israelis,”  and the majority of US Congresspersons bribed
and intimidated into supporting such treason against the US
Constitution, thus the USofA - - - - - ???

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By Inherit The Wind, June 12, 2010 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment

Arabian Sinbad, June 12 at 10:53 am #

By rico, suave, June 12 at 10:01 am #
Honestly poor “rico,” are you the next Mossad-CIA agent being trained to fly airplanes into buildings as they did in 9/11, 2001?!


Yeah no way people who call the US “The Great Satan”, load their websites with posts glorifying “Jihad”, chant “Death to America” and discuss ways to attack Americans, blow themselves up in Kenya, Lebanon, Yemen , pizza shops full of children and buses full of commuter could ever POSSIBLY consider attacking America…only the CIA or Mossad would attack the USA. Right?

You are as illogical as a flat-earther, but espouse a far greater evil.

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By Mariategui, June 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

re: Juan Cole’s Gift to US hardliners

The continuing claims of voter fraud in Iran, in the absence of any credible evidence for such fraud—not to mention the extensive circumstantial evidence that the elections were clean—would seem to give great comfort and aid to US hardliners.

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By rico, suave, June 12, 2010 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment


Speaking of which- the US lucked out against England.

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By nemesis2010, June 12, 2010 at 11:09 am Link to this comment

By rico, suave, June 12 at 10:01 am

” Indeed. Show me some logic John and I’ll stay away from your personality.“

Standing next to John Ellis, even Spooky43 appears like he might have at least one coherent thought in every 1,000. Given that, what are the odds that a self-absorbed ass like John Ellis might present you with a logical and coherent comment?  You’ll get better odds betting that soccer might be more entertaining than watching paint dry. Both of which are much more entertaining than anything that burro has to say.

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By nemesis2010, June 12, 2010 at 11:07 am Link to this comment

By John Ellis, June 11 at 8:29 pm

Comes now above poster, and he to have blind faith in the biggest religion in all the world, atheism.“

I could start explaining how atheism isn’t a religion and teach you about the suffix “ism” but to tell you the truth I find you so ghey with that utterly stupid “Darkness vs. Light” thing that you do that I always prefer to ignore your grossly uninformed, uneducated, unenlightened, incognizant, oblivious, clueless, incoherent, obtuse, pointless, superstitious, naïve, oafish, addle-brained, wrongheaded, unintellectual, mindless, vacuous, irrational, illogical, dull-witted, incompetent, inept, feckless, and turgid, tripe.

Believers in mythology are like pigs; just as pigs enjoy wallowing in their feces, believers enjoy wallowing in their stupidity. As a matter of fact the only thing a believer enjoys more than wallowing in his stupidity is murdering other human beings in the name of and for the glory of their imaginary friends.

”Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” –Albert Einstein

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By drbhelthi, June 12, 2010 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

Aarky, is the CIA handler whom you mention in your previous note, the
same CIA operative whom the israeli-Bilderberger group promoted into
the US presidency in 2008? 

The one who made all the promises that the “poorfolk”
wanted to hear, similar to the Austrian immigrant to
Germany in the 1930s, and who after being installed into the position,
reversed his tactics?

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By Ed Harges, June 12, 2010 at 9:38 am Link to this comment

re:By Arabian Sinbad, June 11 at 8:54 pm:

I agree: aarky has reminded us a of a lot of valuable facts which have been
disappeared - if ever mentioned in the first place - by the msm.

But I would encourage Aarky to register, so that when (s)he posts a comment, it
appears right away.

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By rico, suave, June 12, 2010 at 7:16 am Link to this comment


Damn! Busted AGAIN! You guys are REALLY good!

But as the good Dr. John Ellis would say, “And how can you debate an issue when they attack your person to draw attention away from the issue?”

It’s people like you who make me keep coming back to truthdig. You whack jobs are SOOOOO EASY!!

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By Arabian Sinbad, June 12, 2010 at 6:53 am Link to this comment

By rico, suave, June 12 at 10:01 am #
Honestly poor “rico,” are you the next Mossad-CIA agent being trained to fly airplanes into buildings as they did in 9/11, 2001?!

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By rico, suave, June 12, 2010 at 6:01 am Link to this comment


Damn! Busted! You are good! But you’re just a propagandist for Ellis.

“So,  our CIA ordered the IDF to execute precisely nine on the Freedom Flotilla, to put bags over the heads of six others and be sure to heave them into the sea.”

Followed by this,

“How can you have a debate with an illogical person?”

Indeed. Show me some logic John and I’ll stay away from your personality.

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By drbhelthi, June 12, 2010 at 1:38 am Link to this comment

There you go, John Ellis, being accurate, logical and outspoken again. As per ususual.

Seems that “rico, suave” is interested in your bod ?
I wonder if the hired propagandist who pens “this person´s” script used a rented uniform with a fictitious face?

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By rico, suave, June 11, 2010 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment

“Bless your darling heart, this WEB page is a free service for liberals to have an open and friendly discussion of liberal views.”

Oh, I see. We can’t have any flavor but plain vanilla here at td. It might upset your fragile psyches to learn that there is a whole different world of opinion out there.

You know, your ego is as fragile as your body looks in that avatar.

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By Arabian Sinbad, June 11, 2010 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment

By tropicgirl, June 11 at 4:56 pm #

“The only thing happening here is that Petreus spilled the beans and the truth came out. He’s the betray-us SECRET MAN, setting BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER, KILL YOUR FATHER, HERE’S SOME MONEY, DESTROY YOUR OWN
COUNTRY if we make you do it, kind of man…”
Thank you tropicgirl for a well-articulated piece; the type of words expected from a free thinker and a lively critical mind! I really enjoyed reading your piece and adding it to my my file of “The Best Things I Read This Week.”
By Aarky, June 11 at 7:05 pm #
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Thank you Aarky for another excellent piece of educated critical thinking! If I am not mistaken, you are totally new to these threads and I want you to know that your piece is a hit with me. Keep up the good work of educating the less fortunate!

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By Aarky, June 11, 2010 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment
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I posted earlier and presume it will be displayed. If you read enough you find many surprising things about Iran. The CIA lost an entire string of secret agents in Iran a couple years back. The CIA dispatcher made the mistake of sending a message to all persons rather than one spy and one of them was a double agent. It sounds too simple, but it apparently had a list of addresses, sort of like a CC list. OUCH!!

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By Aarky, June 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment
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Why is it that no one mentions that credible polls taken before the election in Iran showed that Ahmadinejad was going to win the election? All the rednecks of Iran help him win the elction, quite like the US variety helped re-elect Bush in 2004.
Why is it that no mentions the secret Bush program from late 2007 to spend up to $400 million to attempt to destabilize the government of Iran? We have to presume the new Petraeus directive is an extension of that program. Why doesn’t anyone ask why the US government keeps re-creating our $100 bills? It just might be that the Iranians decided to play tit for tat when they realized we were dumping fake Iranian money on them. Why is no one talking about the letter the White House sent to Silva of Brazil asking him to work with the Turks to encourage Iran to accept some sort of fuel swap in return for the 20% enriched fuel rods? When Iran accepted the deal, the White House started all sorts of objections to the deal. The Turks and Brazil were rightly P OFF at the apparent treachery from the WH. They even published the letter to show that they had acted in good faith. Why is it that no one asks why the WH still has Rahm Emanuel or Dennis Ross on the payroll? These men have effectivly sabotaged any meaningful conversations with Iran and Hillary parrots all the talking points that they pass to her.
No one in the US seems to know that a number of US airlines routinely overfly Iran on the way to India. We need to fire every one on the Iran desk at State and bring in a group of airline executives to deal with Iran. I guarantee our relations would start to improve with one month. But first, fire Rahm and Dennis so they can’t sabotage any agreements.

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By rico, suave, June 11, 2010 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

You send us a transcript of Pacifica Radio and use THAT for proof of anything??

Do you have any real proof that the CIA had anything to do with this? And what six bag-headed people were heaved into the sea?

What the HELL are you talking about?

Who am I trying to fool, John?

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By tropicgirl, June 11, 2010 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

The only thing happening here is that Petreus spilled the beans and the truth
came out. He’s the betray-us SECRET MAN, setting BROTHER AGAINST
COUNTRY if we make you do it, kind of man…

The “Green Movement” was invented by Henry Kissinger and other criminals.
There is video on the internet, of Kissinger speaking about his part in the
Green movement, on the internet, and, if it didn’t work, they would invade.
Google it, unless it has been scrubbed. I saw it a few months ago.

Moussavi, the so-called “leader” of the Fake Green Movement, is a violent,
dangerous criminal, who has ties to CIA and Israel, and perhaps played a part
in incidents in which American servicepersons died.

Neda was an unfortunately misled person, who someone convinced that
outside American interests, agitating in her country, if successful, would
somehow be good for her country. She was tragically wrong.

America has nothing but death for her country. They just used her up and lead
her, in her unfortunate ignorance, into her own destruction. They will kill her
father, her brother, her mayor, her friends, with a nuke if necessary, to get
what they want. The neutering of Iran.

This is a broken record that I am tired of. The crack down was necessary, long
overdue, and I hope that ugly, “fake head of revolution” never rears itself,  ever,
ever again.

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By nemesis2010, June 11, 2010 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment

Adherents of the Big 3 (Judaism, Christianity & Islam) will never be happy or content until they are slaughtering each other by the millions. I say… good riddance! Let them die happy… by the multimillions!

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By rico, suave, June 11, 2010 at 9:11 am Link to this comment

“The mystery is why the Obama administration and the majority of the US political and media class consistently support the worst elements in Israel, rather than the best.”

I’m pretty sure the US-Israel relationship is at its lowest in quite a long time, thanks to the stupid choices Netanyahu is making.

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By Valatius, June 11, 2010 at 8:34 am Link to this comment

Ed Harges’ comment above is right on target: “So it’s probably “good for Israel”, according to Likudnik calculations, if the mullahs keep power in Iran.” All of their power is based on stoking the fears of a new holocaust in the Israeli electorate - the real enemy of the Likudniks and their allies is is not Iran but the ever-smaller Israeli Left, which still holds to the secular and socialist values of the state’s founders.

The mystery is why the Obama administration and the majority of the US political and media class consistently support the worst elements in Israel, rather than the best.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 11, 2010 at 8:13 am Link to this comment

Nice to hear or read everyones peace of mind. Iran a
land where homosexuals, lesbians get executed, where
journalists get trails and then executed, Women far
from equal, State and Religion ONE· SUPREME leader
the rest are suicide bombers in disguise as normal
people. Killer Koran still rules the day, No freedom
for Iran!The ideology in a life hereafter, Paradise
kill a Jew go to Heaven, virgins and all
included,timeshare resort, some where in Paradise”
The old rule the new by force and an entire
generation contaminated with violence for order. The
KING must die so the people can live! Change comes
from within, Kabbalist verse The Kingdom of Heaven is
within so says the RABBI on the cross!  Last Saturday
Obama got the green light to strike Iran and Israel
as back up! WE are on our way to WW3, most empires
lasted 120/40 years excluding Roman Empire, USA
EMPIRE QUESTIONED AGAIN, is time finished for this
American Republic/hope not!

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By LA Roth, June 11, 2010 at 7:17 am Link to this comment
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Too bad we lost assets in Iran when Valerie Plame was outed. That said, why would we expect things to be different?

There are certain people who make careers of being warriors. No war, no career. That’s the political and military people. Then there are the opportunists who make fortunes off conflict. No conflict or threat, no need for weapons, no profits.

And never mind religion, one justification for doing bad things to another group in order to gain personal power. It’s no different from wolf packs trying to control territory and mating rights.

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By rico, suave, June 11, 2010 at 7:14 am Link to this comment

Cole says, “Above all, the ayatollahs benefited from Israeli intransigence and American hypocrisy on nuclear disarmament in the Middle East.”

Oh, I see. If we would just let Iran have its nukes, they would stop killing their Greens and peace and freedom would prevail in Iran.

If Cole runs “the single best running commentary on the Middle East” ...

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By Arabian Sinbad, June 11, 2010 at 6:57 am Link to this comment

By dihey, June 11 at 10:21 am #

“What is the evidence that the Greens would have held “unrigged” elections had they won? Rigged elections are the rule in the Near/Middle East: Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan as well. Are there fair elections anywhere on the Arabian peninsula?”
It’s interesting that all the countries you mention as candidates for rigged elections are either occupied, puppets or so-called allies of the US.

It’s true that most countries in the Middle East, specially those that are the puppets of the US, conduct rigged elections. By rigged elections I also mean where the power of dirty domestic or outside money determines the outcome of the elections whenever they take place.

By this definition, the first term election of George W. Bush was a rigged election and so was his second term election. These two elections were two examples that democracy, even in the US, is about all the democracy that money can buy.

However, one recent example of one “unrigged” election in the Middle East was that of the Palestinians three years ago, which by certification of all international observers ran a very clean and truly democratic election! But the rest of the story of this election is known to the whole world when the US and Israel rigged it from without, by refusing to accept the outcome because the winners were not their puppets!

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By dihey, June 11, 2010 at 6:21 am Link to this comment

What is the evidence that the Greens would have held “unrigged” elections had they won? Rigged elections are the rule in the Near/Middle East: Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan as well. Are there fair elections anywhere on the Arabian peninsula?

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By prosefights, June 11, 2010 at 6:01 am Link to this comment

We hope

[M]y guess is that neither the US nor Israel will attempt to take out their facilities in the year ahead. If Iran used a nuclear device against Israel, or anybody else, they would be asking to become, in turn, the world’s largest ashtray. ...

James Howard Kunstler

is correct.

Iran possession of nuclear weapons doesn’t appear to buy it anything but trouble.

And it looks as if all countries will face increased electricity costs and possible shortage in the future.

BTUs go in, kWhs come out. More than twice 3412.14163 in the case of most heat sources.

Solar and wind generation of electricity may be an exception according to PNM?  We’re investigating.

We’ll continue to try to find out if

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We at Iran Defense Forum would like to wish you a happy birthday today!

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By shalom, June 11, 2010 at 5:59 am Link to this comment

Dear Professor Cole,

Your article sheds light on the dark side of the battle between the West and Iran while identifying that many American and Israeli actions have only strengthened Ahmadinejad’s power base both within Iran and beyond. As for the State of Israel’s recent interdiction of the Free Gaza Flotila and attack on the Mavi Marmara I believe we are all still struggling to confirm the chronology of events. It is difficult to know what is missing when Israel confiscated and utilizes all the photographic evidence as it serves it best. The simultaneous capture of the pasengers on all six ships and their detention including the violence on the Mavi Marmara only make clarity that much harder to come by. As the passengers, crew, journalists, soldiers and leaders of Israel, IHH, the Free Gaza Movement and others are interviewed increasingly by independent sources I hope that it will be possible to construct a chronology that is undeniable.

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By drbhelthi, June 11, 2010 at 4:37 am Link to this comment

How can “we” talk about “hardliners” in Iran - or the moslem world,  when only “israel” can repeatedly attack ships in international waters without reciprocity?

Or even the fear of reciprocity?

Has one American voter been asked for approval to send “US Special Forces” - or anyone- into Iran as spies?

When the US CIA assassinates via EMF-engendered “heart ttacks,” shooting with pistols, and stabbing with knives, who can fault Iranians or moslems for assassinating with swords and beheading?  Murder is murder and the victim is DEAD, regardless of method.

Which nation has Iran attacked or even threatened to attack? Is there a nation, other than the self-alleged nation of “Israel,” that is permitted to repeatedly commit attacks and piracy on the high seas without having a “bunker-buster” zeroed in on their underground HQ ??

Three scientific and professional organizations have officially gone on record to state that the World Trade Center was not destroyed by “Moslems” flying airliners into the towers.

Rather, MOSSAD operatives moved freely about the buildings for four months, setting the special explosives, required to melt the steel, supportive girders, and then disappeared two days prior to demolition of the towers.

Are the leaders of Iran the only folk who will not kiss the asses of the steering committee of the Bilderberger-israeli group, whose major puppets reside in the greater Washington D.C. area and the U.S. White House ?

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By Commune115, June 11, 2010 at 12:13 am Link to this comment

The Green movement’s decline is also somewhat it’s own fault. It never offered anything to Iran’s working class and rural/urban poor who for various reasons, remain loyal to Ahmadinejad. This is why it remains mostly regulated to the more upper class areas of Tehran.

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By Ed Harges, June 10, 2010 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment

Oh, goodness!

Israel’s intransigence will cause the hard-liners to remain in power
in Iran!

And so Iran’s government will continue to be easily portrayable in the Israeli-
controlled American press as a bunch of mad mullahs who can only be stopped by
being bombed back to the stone age! And so we’ll have war with Iran, instead of

I’m sure this is contrary to Israel’s intentions—because everyone knows
that Israel wants to avoid war!

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By Arabian Sinbad, June 10, 2010 at 8:14 pm Link to this comment

I find it difficult come up with my own words in response to this very scholarly and analytical article. Therefore, I opted to highlight the following words as a quotation from the article, which would be what I would say if it wasn’t already there in the article.
“The hypocrisy in all this was visibly Washington’s and Israel’s.  After all, both were demanding that a country without nuclear weapons “disarm” and the only country in the region to actually possess them be excused from the disarmament process entirely.  This was, of course, their gift to Tehran.  Like others involved in the process, Iran’s representative to the International Atomic Energy Agency immediately noted this and riposted, “The U.S… is obliged to go along with the world’s request, which is that Israel must join the NPT and open its installations to IAEA inspectors.””

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By Night-Gaunt, June 10, 2010 at 6:46 pm Link to this comment

Yes like the crypto-fascists here ,they want to stay in power forever as the only viable party. Israel is just further along in their development to a more fascist state.

If Israel decides they would lose less by attacking Iran’s nuclear sites, and those they suspect as such, along with any military and logistical points on their target lists, they will. It will be a bad day that could stretch into a very bad decade for nearly everyone.

The whole reason for this is because the USA has a bug up its collective ass with Iran. Just like with Iraq before, they will lie, cheat, steal and maybe kill to fool enough of the people to mount an attack after the psychological and psyops ground had been laid. A blockade would percipitate it. We don’t get much of our oil form Iran but it won’t matter to the overall cost per barrel will sky rocket and Iran won’t sit idly by either. [This isn’t a crippled Iraq.]

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By Ed Harges, June 10, 2010 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

In all likelihood, Israel’s right-wing crazies
want Iran’s hardliners to stay in power.

Israel’s supporters are only making a “mistake” by strengthening
the hardliners if you assume that they are telling the truth when
they claim to love the Iranian “Green” opposition and to hope that war can be

This is a mistaken assumption. The Iranian “Green” opposition leaders believe
just as strongly as the mullahs that Iran has the right to control the full nuclear
enrichment cycle, as permitted by the NPT. The Iranian people themselves,
according to opinion surveys, also strongly support Iran’s right to the full
enrichment cycle. It is doubtful that any government could be elected to power
in Iran on a platform of surrendering to Israel’s dictates concerning the nuclear

Israel’s intransigent position is that Iran must not be allowed to conduct
nuclear enrichment at all, even under the safeguards provided by the NPT.
Consequently, Israel’s fervent desire is that somebody, preferably the US,
should bomb Iran back to the stone age.

If the hardliners lost power, and the more liberal opposition replaced them, it
would be harder for Israel to continue to demonize Iran, claiming that its
government is crazy and requires immediate bombing.

So it’s probably “good for Israel”, according to Likudnik calculations, if the
mullahs keep power in Iran.

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