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Dispatches From Cairo: Blood, Youth and RevolutionPosted on May 4, 2012
(Page 2) Saudi economic experts warned of the repercussions of the political crisis between Egypt and Saudi Arabia, where about 1 million Egyptians work. Experts estimate that Saudis hold more than $12 billion in investments in Egypt. Even though it withdrew its ambassador Saturday in reaction to the demonstrations, and later closed its Cairo embassy, Saudi Arabia later said it would proceed with its plan to give Egypt $2.7 billion in aid. As usual in Egypt in times of unrest, absurd propaganda churns in the background. An example of such hooey is the rumor that Islamists are trying to implement a “right to necrophilia with wives,” a story picked up by websites including those of some international media companies. Meanwhile, the fundamentalist Salafis have now surprisingly thrown their support behind the ex-Muslim Brotherhood Islamist Liberal candidate Abdel-Moneim Abul-Fotouh, who is also backed by none other than Wael Ghonem, the great hero and facilitator of the revolution. It is now a clear contest among the three major candidates: Abul-Fotouh; the secularist Amr Moussa, ex-chair of the Arab League and Egyptian foreign affairs minister; and Mohamed Mursi of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party, who will have to work hard to regain the MB’s diminished voter base. The reinstatement of the previously disqualified SCAF candidate, Ahmed Shafiq—a former general who is friendly to the United States and Israel and who briefly was the last prime minister of the Mubarak government—raised a small outcry, but his was never a popular nomination, and quickly other outrages took precedent. Advertisement So what are you protesting today? “I am protesting the military government. They must go out!” She said this loudly, and other people in the march turned and seconded her words. “Aren’t most people here protesting Abu Ismail’s disqualification for candidacy?” I indicated the bearded and sign-bearing people gathering on the route. “I mean, … his whole family are U.S. citizens and live in California, and that was the rule the Salafis wrote.” “I don’t care,” she said. “I am here as a revolutionary to support the revolution, whatever the subject.” She was adamantly in agreement with the anger about the reinstatement of the candidacy of Shafiq, a remnant of Hosni Mubabrak’s regime. “They are trying to steal back the revolution but we won’t let them! … They are murderers and liars.” She didn’t once say the name of Allah, a common invocation among conservative Egyptians. That seemed to clash with her wearing of a niqab. I felt compelled to ask: “If the government forced you to wear the niqab, would you, in the name of revolution, violate the order and take it off? If Egypt became like Saudi [in requiring the niqab] …?” She deflected my question, saying: “I protested against the Saudi Embassy yesterday. They are keeping thousands of Egyptians in prison without trial. They only have oil, they are hypocrites. We don’t want them.” “What do your parents say?” “They understand I am a revolutionary, but of course they are worried.” “Do they know you are here?” She looked mischievous and said, “Not exactly.” And then two of her friends—girls in niqab and waving Egyptian flags—passed, and she joined them in chanting, “Out! Out! The military government!” Covered in cloth as they were, I imagined their parents would not have been able to recognize them in photos of the march. I hope the three teenagers went home before violence broke out. I hope that they—and Yussef, whom I have not been able to reach since Wednesday—are back with their families, and away from harm. I didn’t get a chance to talk about other issues with Dima Shawky, and she didn’t mention the breaking of the fuel deal with Israel, or the Islamists’ global endorsement of Abul-Fotouh Abou-Fotouh. But I guess it doesn’t matter. She is for the revolution of the street, whatever it may be. The new Egypt will be hers.
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By gerard, May 6, 2012 at 10:23 am Link to this comment
If Muhammad said that—if, which I doubt—he was wrong. It’s the older men, the “tough guys who feel themselves getting old, slipping just a little, facing their last chance to “make money” or “make a name for themselves” or “make a killing in the market”, or “make it with a dame”. Of course they haven’t got a clue, but they own a bunch of hardware and have “access” to what passes for the media and the halls of government. So it’s “root!root!root! for the home team” and the wheels start turning in the bomber factories and heaven help some poor little god-forsaken country somewhere with lots of peasants and crazy ideas and oil, and ... wow!
Report thisTen years later thousands of people are dead or wounded, mainly women and children—but what the hell! We got them told, didn’t we? Yeah! Or did we ...? Oh, well ... We’re the greatest! Killers! In the world! “Make no mistake about it!” And just remember, NOTHING’S OFF THE TABLE!”
By vector56, May 6, 2012 at 7:02 am Link to this comment
“I ask the same questions whenever churches are burned or Christians are persecuted in the Islamic world.”
OzarkMichael;
do you ever dare ask yourself why millions of Muslims Men Women and Children have be slaughtered by the “good blue eyed Christian boys” in our military since 911?
The NAZIS set a kill ratio of 100 to 1; if the other side killed one of their soldiers, they would round up 100 people, put them against a wall and shoot them dead! For the 3000 killed on 9/11 we have killed about 2 million Muslims (and still counting); if the NAZIS were monsters for 100 to 1 kill ratio, what are we?
Report thisBy balkas, May 6, 2012 at 6:02 am Link to this comment
i suggest that in all countries and in the UN be ONLY TWO PARTIES:
Report thissocilalist-gregarious one and the other asocialist-individualistic-
atomizing. [autistic, to be short and in point]
this wld represent the NECESSARY TRUTH or NEED [apodictic to
aristotle]
so, ACHTUNG paesanos, forget about liberals, progressives,
Democrats, democrats, libertarians, conservatives, neocons,
Republicans, independents, fascists, communists—-all these are
fakes and are, perforce, faking it!
By balkas, May 6, 2012 at 5:49 am Link to this comment
put another way: ONEPERCENT has two political
Report thisparties and 99% none.
so, when the ONEPERCENT get’s mad at or is
displeased [or just feigns it] with one party, it
elects the other one.
however, always in control of major foreign and
domestic policies.
By Free Thinker, May 5, 2012 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment
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There is no doubt in my free mind that the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia and few other beneficieries are hard at work to abort the people’s revolution in Egypt.
However,this is no excuse for true revolutionaries to identify the enemies and thwart their ploting for good. The too many contenders for power in Egypt is the main problem. Egyptians need not be deceived by so many contending political parties, thinking that this is true democracy. At this point all nationalists need to unite in one party that they should call the Revolutionary Party.
Report thisBy gerard, May 5, 2012 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment
Lauren Unger-Geoffrey: A small white butterfly just flew past my window. It will soon come to your house, so be sure to watch for it. Love.
Report thisBy OzarkMichael, May 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm Link to this comment
The army was two days slow to intervene. Some Egyptians said the military was letting the “thugs” do its dirty work. But to what end? If the military is indeed supporting this violence, what exactly is its motivation?I ask the same questions whenever churches are burned or Christians are persecuted in the Islamic world. Their government lets it happen, or when they do intervene they either arrest Christians for blasphemy, or force Christian leadership to attend a binding “reconciliation” table with the Muslim majority who are threatening them.
To what end? What is the motivation?
Report thisBy vector56, May 5, 2012 at 7:50 am Link to this comment
In short what balkas is saying is that there are no appeals outside of the already established institutions of power. I agree!
You rarely seem Wall Street, The MIC, or AIPAC out in the streets carrying signs, being pepper sprayed and beaten by Police.
The reason is simple; all of the above mentioned groups (Wall Street, MIC, AIPAC) have “mobility” between the two major parties. If one of the two parties is not meeting their needs, they can always threaten to leave and support the other. Liberals do not have this luxury.
Report thisBy balkas, May 5, 2012 at 5:47 am Link to this comment
“youth is branch of insanity” said muhammad. no, i disagree with this utterance and no
Report thismatter what muhammad meant by it.
and muhammad had not prophesied anything and neither did issaiah or i.
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as for protest in egypt, i have already ‘prophesied’ over a year ago that it will fail.
i still stay with this expectation as long as protesters only protest.
politics, as i have said a few time, is part of life; so, if one wants changes for better, one has
to engage in politics and then one needs not waste time protesting.
the best protest is the one in a parliament, congress, diet, sabor, among army echelons…