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Posted on Sep 20, 2009
G-20 protest zone
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Free-speech zone?: The David L. Lawrence Convention Center in Pittsburgh, where the G-20 global economic summit will be held Thursday and Friday, as seen from the parking lot, which is being leased by the city as the only sanctioned area for protesters to gather within sight of the center.

By Chris Hedges

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But the game is up. The utopian dreams of globalization have been exposed as a sham. Force is all the elite have left. We are living through one of civilization’s great seismic reversals. The ideology of globalization, like all utopias that are sold as inevitable and irreversible, has become a farce. The power elite, perplexed and confused, cling to the disastrous principles of globalization and its outdated language to mask the political and economic vacuum before us. The absurd idea that the marketplace alone should determine economic and political constructs caused the crisis. It led the G-20 to sacrifice other areas of human importance—from working conditions, to taxation, to child labor, to hunger, to health and pollution—on the altar of free trade. It left the world’s poor worse off and the United States with the largest deficits in human history. Globalization has become an excuse to ignore the mess. It has left a mediocre elite desperately trying to save a system that cannot be saved and, more important, trying to save itself. “Speculation,” then-President Jacques Chirac of France once warned, “is the AIDS of our economies.” We have reached the terminal stage. 

“Each of Globalization’s strengths has somehow turned out to have an opposing meaning,” John Ralston Saul wrote in “The Collapse of Globalism.” “The lowering of national residency requirements for corporations has morphed into a tool for massive tax evasion. The idea of a global economic system mysteriously made local poverty seem unreal, even normal. The decline of the middle class—the very basis of democracy—seemed to be just one of those things that happen, unfortunate but inevitable. That the working class and the lower middle class, even parts of the middle class, could only survive with more than one job per person seemed to be expected punishment for not keeping up. The contrast between unprecedented bonuses for mere managers at the top and the four-job families below them seemed inevitable in a globalized world. For two decades an elite consensus insisted that unsustainable third-world debts could not be put aside in a sort of bad debt reserve without betraying Globalism’s essential principles and moral obligations, which included an unwavering respect for the sanctity of international contracts. It took the same people about two weeks to abandon sanctity and propose bad debt banks for their own far larger debts in 2009.”

The institutions that once provided alternative sources of power, including the press, government, agencies of religion, universities and labor unions, have proved morally bankrupt. They no longer provide a space for voices of moral autonomy. No one will save us now but ourselves.

“The best thing that happened to the Establishment is the election of a black president,” Holmes said. “It will contain people for a given period of time, but time is running out. Suppose something else happens? Suppose another straw breaks? What happens when there is a credit card crisis or a collapse in commercial real estate? The financial system is very, very fragile. The legs are being kicked out from underneath it.”

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“Obama is in trouble,” Holmes went on. “The economic crisis is a structural crisis. The recovery is only a recovery for Wall Street. It can’t be sustained, and Obama will be blamed for it. He is doing everything Wall Street demands. But this will be a dead end. It is a prescription for disaster, not only for Obama but the Democratic Party. It is only groups like ours that provide hope. If labor unions will get off their ass and stop focusing on narrow legislation for their members, if they will go back to being social unions that embrace broad causes, we have a chance of effecting change. If this does not happen it will be a right-wing disaster.”

Chris Hedges’ latest book is “Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle.” His weekly column appears Mondays on Truthdig.


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By C.Curtis.Dillon, September 22, 2009 at 5:35 am Link to this comment

shemp333:

Mother nature is already testing ways to eliminate us.  AIDS, ebola, famine, super storms ... the list is long and growing.  One of these days she will get it right and over population will be corrected ... her way.  It will not be pretty but she, unlike us, will get it done.  However, that is a topic for another time and place.

As for wasting your energy posting here ... I would agree.  I really doubt whether those who write the original stories even bothers to read the comments.  So this is a place where we who are frustrated can at least vent some of the anger without harming either ourselves or others.  Unfortunately, I don’t remember how the 60s revolution got started.  I would guess the first stirrings started on college campuses (Berkley is a good guess) and spread from there.  But universities have become bastions of conservatism so we cannot expect the spark to start with them.

Maybe we should start by setting up a meeting place on the web where we can start to organize.  We could get the word out and start recruiting people who share similar views.  Many of those who fill TruthDig with comments might be a good starting place.  I’m certainly willing to try if others will help.  I have time and geographically am located outside the US which may (or may not) be an advantage.  I’m open to suggestions about this ...

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By bogi666, September 22, 2009 at 5:07 am Link to this comment

Shemp333, flag waving at demonstrations against politicians simply has not been effective.Violence is necessary.This is the only they will understand, the 60’s proved that. The Mellon Scaife crowd of fascist Corporatist’s has devoted $100’s of billions to obscure and denigrate the heritage of the 60’s because it worked. Even since then the fascists are dedicated to implementing fascist government for the USA and it’s working.

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By ardee, September 22, 2009 at 3:35 am Link to this comment

And it is the US Government that is setting up detention centres around the country and bringing in the military for crowd control not the so-called right wing “proto-fascists”. The current government is left-wing. So whether you want to call them something else (other than fascist) because they are left leaning, go ahead. The net result is the same.

An amazing statement really, and so contrary to fact or rationality that one is at a loss to explain how seemingly reasonable people can post such.

I am aware that there has been talk of such “detention centers” being constructed all during the Bush administration, which was hardly a bastion of liberalism. In a country of 300,000,000, as mobile as we are too, one might think that someone, somewhere would have stumbled across one of these things….but not so far.

When the right screams that the govt is left wing and the left equally stridently states it is right wing, perhaps it is something else entirely. Incompetent, inefficient , filled with self serving individuals concerned only with their own power and wealth.

That this “plainsman” , (you arent really Gary Cooper are you?) rants about the military being used to control the populace may be a possibility, especially after Bush ( another one of “Gary’s” Lefties I guess)suspended Posse Comitatus.

How do so many people suspend their reason and their ability to separate wheat from chaff, and at the cost of their own repute too…I think this “plainsman” is another in a series of hit and run fantasy loving folks, who will not stick around to defend childish nonsense. Who can blame him, how do you defend this garbage?

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By Ouroborus, September 22, 2009 at 2:36 am Link to this comment

Hmm, did I mis-understand? I just looked at
truedigger’s comment and I’m in agreement with it.

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By Ouroborus, September 22, 2009 at 2:26 am Link to this comment

Night-Gaunt, September 22 at 1:40 am #
This would be really good for truedigger & others to
listen to.
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The Lionel Show; never heard of it before, but I liked
it. As to your suggestion; it wouldn’t make a lick of
difference. “They” hate facts and if the facts prove
them wrong they just get angry and more combative.

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By Folktruther, September 22, 2009 at 2:26 am Link to this comment

Shemp, your fear that your life is being wasted posting useless comments on the internet is quite justified.

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By plainsman, September 22, 2009 at 12:20 am Link to this comment

Fascism, syndicalism, totalitarianism, corporatism, communism, extremism . . . SCHISM.

The point is that the elected government of the United States is directed by corporations not by the electorate. It doesn’t matter who is elected or what their LEFT / RIGHT stripe is. They all do more or less the same thing. It’s good cop, bad cop.

So long as the “progressive” media plays to the polarization they are assisting the divide and conquer tactic of the “power elites”. Politics may have once had some meaning, in terms of elected officials representing their constituents. That, however, is long past. (Jesse Ventura said that politics is no different than professional wrestling. It’s a scripted show.) Regardless who is elected these days, the corporate agenda plays itself out. And the people lose.

When the US was formed there was a determination to effect a separation of church and state. Now there needs to be a separation of commerce and state.

And it is the US Government that is setting up detention centres around the country and bringing in the military for crowd control not the so-called right wing “proto-fascists”. The current government is left-wing. So whether you want to call them something else (other than fascist) because they are left leaning, go ahead. The net result is the same.

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By GW=MCHammered, September 21, 2009 at 11:12 pm Link to this comment
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US Capitalism (a social system based on individual rights and an economic system based on private ownership of capital) turned Capitalizing (draw advantage from) ... a social system based on propaganda, individual freedom playing second-string to special interest and an economic model based not on positive productivity but free-based on corporate/wall street/institutional dominion and extortion.

The productive economic system of capitalism began in 16th century Europe. Destructive, egocentric capitalizing began the first time two humans ever crossed paths. Globalizers think they’ve perfected that. Did I say globalizers? I meant blood-sucking/even-grandma insatiables.

globalization: archaic anti-progress

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By Night-Gaunt, September 21, 2009 at 10:40 pm Link to this comment

(http://airamerica.com/content/lionel-after-911-look-what-we-did).  This would be really good for truedigger & others to listen to.

(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3776750618788792499&ei=bEs-SuuIEojYwgP5peHjAw&q=new+american+century#) over at Google video.


When you connect them right they will work no matter how long they are.

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By Outraged, September 21, 2009 at 10:35 pm Link to this comment

Re: plainsman

Your comment: “Corporatism leads to fascism. The actions of the Federal Government should tell everyone in the United States that the country is controlled by corporations, which makes the United States Corporatist. The country is already proto-fascist; full blown fascism is not something “out there” lurking among the so-called political Right as Chris Hedges warns; it is being implemented by the Left.”

EXTREMISIM promotes fascism.  Corporatism IS fascism, economically.  However there are many other facets to fascism other than economics.  Just the same, that aspect is important because it is a precursor.  Mussolini’s facism, began as syndicalism… which he subverted after he had attained power, morphing syndicalism into fascism, (purely for political reasons, of course…) thereby, “upsetting the apple cart”.

While I can agree that syndicalism can be used by the unscrupulous (Mussolini) to create the conditions for fascism.  FASCISM itself has never been a “leftist” ideology.  It is a rightist ideology.  Fascism’s cruel ally, as far as regards the destruction of the RIGHTS OF CITIZENS would be communism.

They are “two peas in a pod” so to speak.

BALANCE is the key.

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By thebeerdoctor, September 21, 2009 at 9:57 pm Link to this comment

The thing I find difficult with all of these gifted writings about corporate influence of government policy, is that it seems to assume that this cozy relationship is fairly recent. But if you actually look at the real history of the United States government, you will discover a historic relationship between the federal government and corporations, with the Dupont Company being a prime example. It was President Thomas Jefferson who awarded Dupont, their first big federal contract in 1802, for a continuous supply of high quality gun powder.
As proudly stated on their web site, in 1842, Dupont’s gunpowder helped achieve U.S. government objectives in the Mexican war.
By the time of the Civil War, Dupont’s interests and federal government concerns were so intertwined, that in 1861, Lamont du Pont, grandson of the company’s founder, was sent on a secret mission to London, in which he cornered the market on the world’s supply of saltpeter, supposedly for his company, but actually to meet the demands of the U.S. government.
This happy partnership continues to this day. Dupont is proud of building the Hanford Works project in Washington State, which made the plutonium for the first atomic bombs. They are equally proud of producing KEVLAR, for those troops stationed in foreign lands, protecting your freedom today… or so they say.
So corporations have often reaped incredible profits by supplying the military-empirical needs of the United States, along with nearly everything else. It should be remembered that the DRED SCOTT decision was not about human freedom, but about corporate property. Any advances in the conditions of the non-ownership class occurred despite the asinine protests of the owners, This was true a hundred years ago, as it is today.

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By Mike, September 21, 2009 at 9:55 pm Link to this comment
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Plainsman,

Read Chomsky’s Manufacturning Consent and get back to Chris. All you’re advocating is playing within the narrow spectrum we’ve been dealt. Chris and Mr. Scheer are beyond that, and because of it we’re better off. The spectrum must be expanded, lest we become slaves.

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By plainsman, September 21, 2009 at 9:18 pm Link to this comment

By playing left against right with inflammatory rhetoric like “... seeks a disturbing proto-fascism” Chris Hedges is only fuelling the us-against-them tactic that plays so well into the hands of the “power elite”. The divide and conquer approach of those who hoard resources and gamble with other people’s lives is well-served by such misconstruing of a fairly basic concept: Corporatism leads to fascism. The actions of the Federal Government should tell everyone in the United States that the country is controlled by corporations, which makes the United States Corporatist. The country is already proto-fascist; full blown fascism is not something “out there” lurking among the so-called political Right as Chris Hedges warns; it is being implemented by the Left.

Let me posit this: Who is ostensibly in control of the Federal Government right now? The Democrats. Yet, the current president and congress are clones of the previous president and congress. So obviously so this time that maybe enough people will wise up before it is too late and the deal is done. But as long as individuals with the journalistic cache of Chris Hedges (and Truthdig’s senior editor Robert Sheer) keep playing the “power elite’s” game for them, there is little hope of a government that is for the people and by the people.

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By keepyourheaddown, September 21, 2009 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment
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IT’S OVER!

Recovery is a LIE!

NO ONE WILL BE SPARED!

The people in charge are PATENTLY PATHETIC…

They think they have the answers… THEY DON"T…

kiss your way of life GOODBYE FOR EVER!

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By Hotrod, September 21, 2009 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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I would like to know who exactly is the far, radical Left that is constantly trotted out as a “balance” to the Fascist right wingnuts? Can someone give me an example of a well known super Lefty other than Michael Moore?

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By Nap, September 21, 2009 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment
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The days that Americans can participate on any thing but their own immediate and narrow individual interest are beyond us and an insincere bumper sticker is the limit of our participation.
But maybe we can do a sing along.

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
We don’t need no water let the mother fù*$$ burn
Burn motherfù*$ burn

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By omygodnotagain, September 21, 2009 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

Chris,
As a number of contributors have mentioned change will not come from the Left, there is no left, what there is on, what is called the left, are a bunch of social liberals who have knee jerk causes. They get upset about prayer in schools, they think gay marriage is a basic human right, they are into animal rights.. they have programmed their thinking to be in line with those they mix with, politics as a social identifiers like a tattoo or nose ring. There is no deep analysis of the society. To pick one, gay marriage, if you were to say “marriage traditionally was for the purposes of raising children, it is the main brick we build society with, in married families children learn values and character how to be an adult, so we should be conservative about making changes to it,  especially as most societies around the world seem to have come to the same conclusions independently”, you would be looked at as some kind of reactionary, a closet Christian Fundamentalist, or have to listen to a screed about the patriachy, what about couples that do not want children etc. Completely deaf to the very important point made and of course they have no argument just statements they heard somewhere from someone they like and admire.
What there is in great depth, and in the country as a whole is political correctness, narcissism and illusion. It is fed by the celebrity culture exemplified by Oprah and by the “warrior” sports particularly football.
What it creates is this obsession with the individual, with themselves and the belief they can overcome any obstacle if they just read enough of Tony Robbin’s or Deepak Chopra.  A dose of Ayn Rand and some empathetic “feel your pain” compliments and they will follow any authoritarian figure who plays to these weaknesses.  This did not happen recently, decades ago Americans gave up being interested in foreign affairs, it was one of the reasons the News Stations cut bureaus around the world. Why be interested in what is happening to the farmers in Africa because of Farm subsidies, when those Giants are playing and may get to the Superbowl, and by the way have you seen the wife’s new implants… bring on beer and pretzels life great… and that guy worrying about Farm subsidies, is he some pinko or “They should just get a life” ...
Chris there are no armies ready to march for these just causes, it surrendered long ago to the comforts of the couch and the gossip columns.

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By TAO Walker, September 21, 2009 at 6:24 pm Link to this comment

Too bad Chris Hedges thinks harnessing “rage” to any purpose whatsoever could get the people who do it anyplace they’ll be happy to’ve arrived-at.  If the “fundamentalist right” is determined to go that dead-end route, best to just get out of the way and let ‘em. 

Where, it might sensibly be asked, would “out of the way” be?  This Old savage recommends, as do at-least a couple others here, getting free of the delusions of “individuality” (which are fostered in the domesticated peoples for the sole purpose of making them easy pickings for the “global” privateers), and into genuine organic Living Human Community….a ‘place’ your tormentors cannot reach you.  The terrible irony here is that the oppressors already know the limits of their death-grip here.  Those upon whose throats and short-hairs it is presently bent look like being the last to figure it out.

Give your precious attention instead, tame Sisters and Brothers, to where you live and breathe everyday, and do it together with those who share that actual (as distinguished from “virtual”) common Ground.  There’s really nothing else accessible to you that offers any chance of getting through the collapse of this vicious regime….the suicidal end of the insane “dominance” paradigm as it is again prefigured by Chris Hedges here.

Free wild Human Beings are under no obligation to lie-down in front of the run-amok juggernaut.  The captive “individual”-ized peoples will find they have no real choice in the matter….as is being ‘spelled-out’ quite clearly by the “powers”-that-wannabe here in these latter days in places like Pittsburgh…..and Palestine….and Puerta Vallarta.

So why give ‘em that satisfaction?

Hokahey!

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By GregDiablo, September 21, 2009 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

Free speech zones?  Peaceful protestors infiltrated and harassed? Militarized
police presence and in-your-face intimidation? 

I thought this was supposed to change with Obama.  Instead it’s more “meet the
new boss, same as the old boss.” 

We’re not going to get change until we dump corporate-sanctioned political
parties.  Stop voting Democrap or Rethug.  Let’s invoke Article 5, get a
Constitutional convention, and declare political parties illegal unless they can
prove they are acting in the public’s interest.

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By Stand Up!, September 21, 2009 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment

“The power elite grasps, even if we do not, the massive fraud and theft being undertaken to save a criminal class on Wall Street and international speculators of the kinds who were executed in other periods of human history.”- From article above.

So why aren’t we executing them?  When our nation was first created, its was created with the understanding that oligarchies, or fascism in any way, is a flawed way to run a country.  That being true, we left the oligarchy that was Great Britain.  However, now it seems that a little over 200 years later; our nations people have become complacent.  Its been over a century since we, the people as a nation, have had to defend our freedom from those we look up to for leadership.  In the past year, our country’s leaders have taken very disturbing steps towards bringing our nation into a state of Martial Law.  We have seen them test the idea in small towns, and now with Pittsburgh.  The production of civilian detention centers, for civilians of the US.  Why weren’t we told about this when our President first signed the papers for this, a few months ago?  Why today?  Because after time has passed, people assume that if they haven’t been directly affected by it yet, then they’re probably safe.  This is not true.  No one is safe anymore.  No word or action.  Technology being the way it is, every word we say, every book we read; we are being watched.  Against the base values our country was founded on, our leaders foist this upon us. They do this with complete knowledge that we are to complacent, and too fear filled to react the way we did when we first made this country ours.  If you still believe that non-violence is a way to create change, then ask yourself this…What are they preventing the civilian mass from doing in Pittsburgh?  A non-violent protest.  When pacifism no longer works, or is allowed, then what’s left?  It’s time for us to stop being lazy.  It’s time for us to stop being complacent.  It’s time for us to stop doing what they know we will do.  It’s time for us to stand up, not for the wealthy, but for ourselves It’s time for a REAL revolution.

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By truedigger3, September 21, 2009 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

tropicgirl,

It became a standard lately, that no matter what the topic of discussion is, someone pops up and start talking about 911 and that it is an inside job and diverts the discussion and causes a lot of time and energy to be wasted. Some of those truthers, I am sure, are trolls whose only function is to ruin any useful discussion. We had enough of that.
Yes, the government lies and obfuscate the facts and there are false flag operations, but that does not mean any talk of a conspiracy is based on the facts and it is true.
And you are reprimanding me for writing : “The primary concern of a “REAL LEFT” is protecting the
common folks from the greed and exploitation of the moneyed class and the tyranny of the government they control”
Why that? What is wrong with that statement??!!
I am not against diversity, but all those groups should be under a single banner and cares about the big picture too, not just concentrating on its pet issue and everything else be damned.
You advise me to read history and you will be really surprised if you know how much history I have read and know.

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By bist, September 21, 2009 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment
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Apologize for the earlier duplicate posts…this is my first time posting here,
although I have been a daily reader for a year or two.  I’m a big fan of Robert
and Chris.

Also noticed my link doesn’t work because it is maybe to long.  Best to just
copy & paste the complete link address (http://airamerica.com/content/lionel-
after-911-look-what-we-did).  This would be really good for truedigger &
others to listen to.

Here’s something really good about history & past false flag operations as
mentioned by tropicgirl (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-
3776750618788792499&ei=bEs-
SuuIEojYwgP5peHjAw&q=new+american+century#) over at Google video.

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By Fat Freddy, September 21, 2009 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

shemp333

Well, if what you are saying about overpopulation is true, then we should immediately ban all healthcare for anyone over 35. Better yet, send them to “CAROUSEL” for “RENEWAL”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnLU9nyFSA

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

I fear my life is being wasted posting useless comments on the internet.  Anyone got a better idea?  And don’t tell me to write my congressman or I will find you. 
What I am saying is what I said before.  There are too many humans.  Not my fault, not yours.  But there no longer is a value in a human life.  Sorry to be a downer once more,  but you know what I mean.  We overpopulated unchecked and unthought of, and it is coming very soon to all of our lives to painfully deal with.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment

ChaoticGood,

You still have the right to worry!  We have already been deceived out of our most basic rights.  We, the citizens, screamed for our gov’t to take them away, and they obliged.  Now we all got what we wanted.  See?  It feels so good!

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By ChaoticGood, September 21, 2009 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment

After the food, water and climate wars are over and if we are still a functioning country, I will begin to worry if my banker got his bonus.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment

tropicgirl,

If you really believe that the US gov’t allowed or helped coordinate the 9/11 attacks,  then there is absolutely no reason to go on this American way.  I just really cannot fathom that our gov’t decided it was proper to kill off a large number of American people just to advocate starting a war.  We are a war loving nation.  They could have done that without the attacks.
If what you claim is true,  what should we do next?
I don’t completely dismiss you,  and I am not saying it’s inconceivable.  It’s just from that point,  I don’t know what can be done and lose all hope.  And I just don’t see enough evidence to go your way.  And I have seen the…  I can’t remember the name of the website,  that claims it was an inside job.  I just can’t swallow it.
If our gov’t really did anything like that,  we have no leaders anymore.  It is a free 4 all.  I hate to think that is where we are.

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By tropicgirl, September 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

Hey truedigger… How can you dig the true when you are ignoring one of the
most important events of our time? The 911 false flag incident.

YOU deplore the diversity of concerns among whatever “left” there is. But don’t
you see that these issues… “from gay and lesbian issues, gender issues,
homeless issues, environmental issues, race issues, animals treatment
issues”... are all indicative of how we treat others?

If you believe that you can only really judge people by what the do (or care
about) rather than the PR crap being shoved at us by Obama et al, then these
are the issues you need to find out about, how people feel about them. Even
true Christians support these issues and the humane treatment of others. That
is how you KNOW.

And, YOU say, ““The primary concern of a “REAL LEFT” is protecting the
common folks from the greed and exploitation of the moneyed class and the
tyranny of the governmentn they control…”“

If you don’t take a truthful, open-minded approach to really understanding the
events of 9-11, you will NEVER get past the fear of terrorism. You will NEVER
be able to stand up and say, no more war. You will be constantly looking over
your shoulder for a phantom enemy, instead of the real one. You’ll never
convince anyone to disarm, to question the military, to “pull out” of
occupations. It will ALWAYS be a non-starter for you. The “greedy and
exploitative” want CONTINUAL WAR. The regular people do not. These events
are crucial to convince people to war. Always have been.

How many false flag incidents do you accept? Some and not others? Most are
clearly outlined today but were censored at the time they happened. They really
go back quite far in history, (past Rome) and are standard practice in war. In
many cases, such as the false flag incident that started the Vietnam war and
WWI, you could have been arrested for just questioning what we now know to
be true.

911 is just simply another false flag incident. Nothing more, nothing less. It
doesn’t really matter who did it.  And our inability to free ourselves from war in
the Middle East for anytime in our generation shows that, unfortunately, they
work. It silences ALL arguments…

Please do yourself a favor and read history. Otherwise you will constantly be on
a treadmill of confusion, like it sounds like you already are, a little. It will
explain why Obama will NEVER get out of the mid-east wars against the
Muslims. And he will never try. Neither will the Dems. Never, never, never.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

“It is so much harder to find your own voice,  than to follow one already in the air.”

Ironic as hell I agree.  (LOL)  That’s a lyric from Gov’t Mule’s album High & Mighty.

It fits here.  Somedays I don’t know if I’ve drank too much… or not enough.  This is a tough time for all of us.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

Come on boys & girls!  I am not a thread killer.  And Elvis never did no drugs!

(That was a twisted Penn & Teller BULLSHIT cut)

It is funny if you’ve seen it I promise.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment

truedigger I agree with your dismissal of the 9/11 inside BS.  It is just like the group who denies we ever landed on the moon. 

That being said,  anybody want to comment on what I was saying?  I guess the truth is hard to swallow even for truthdiggers.  The truth hurts.  I do understand.

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By ardee, September 21, 2009 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment

It’s hard to see a solution in the near future, but perhaps it will arise in actions like Pittsburgh.

Mass movements and large demonstrations are very necessary…...And rather absent of late.

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By Claudia, September 21, 2009 at 2:48 pm Link to this comment
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Whatever Globalization was intended to do, the implementation has been a disasterous bust. Greed has overwhelmed any mitigating efforts and united billions in a downward spiral while the “mediocre elite” claim control when none is possible.

Where is Bubba in all this? How can he and Joe Six-pak continue to idolize the authors of their despair? It’s their blood squandered in resource wars. The profits never leave the compounds of the filthy-few. As long as divide-and-rule continues to work so well, we will all continue to be used as domesticated and expendable animals.

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By truedigger3, September 21, 2009 at 2:22 pm Link to this comment

bist wrote:
“Chris, I always enjoy the truth you offer us and often find it very important. 
However, I can’t understand how you don’t see the importance of the truth about what happened on 9/11, the defining event of our time”
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Here we go again. We are not interested.
Please don’t start that rediculous shit and divert the discussion. Or is that your real aim??!!
Take your 911 conspiracy bullshit and get lost.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, September 21, 2009 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment
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Two other ways of looking at the current crisis: 
Ralph Nader on democracynow today talking about his
most recent book, ONLY THE SUPER RICH CAN SAVE US.
http://www.democracynow.org

2) Robert Thurman in a short talk at the Aspen
Institute explaining how the people of Tibet made a
decision to radically change their way of life. 
Before the people embraced Buddhism, Tibet was a
rogue state ruled by war lords.  The people
themselves decided to whole heartedly take up the way
of compassion.  It was not the case that Buddhists
gradually replaced the war mongers.  It happened all
at once as a result of a decision of the people.  The
same thing is possible for the US.  Not that we will
become Buddhists, but the possibility of radically
changing our national purpose does exist for us.
Thurman is one of Time magazine’s 100 most
influential people in the world.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?
v=606758653688

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By Folktruther, September 21, 2009 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

I always assumed that martial law in the US would come as a whole, possibly aftr some staged Terrorist act.  But under Bush-Obama, it has apparently devolved into EVENT MARTIAL LAW.  Those events important to the power structure apparently now use combat brigades brought from Iraq to threaten Americans will loaded assault rifles. 

Demonstraters are restricted to Freedom Zones under Bush-Obama, surrounded by gunmen.  Meanwhile Obama is passing the Patriot Act, legalizing spying on the American people.  This neoliberal police state is different from the classical fascist states, but may be sufficient in the age of TV, at least for a while.

If not, the ruling class is building a White Christian movment in the wings which is homicidal. 

And the power struture has damaged and destroyed the unions that which could unite the working class.  the popultion is therefore extremely fragmented, without institutions that could empower resistence.  And the progressive media is more or less on the payroll of the power structure.

It’s hard to see a solution in the near future, but perhaps it will arise in actions like Pittsburgh.

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By Fat Freddy, September 21, 2009 at 1:26 pm Link to this comment

FatFreddy—the middle and working classes have no busines in the stock mkt inthe first place—its just a way for the govt to privitize pensions. Risk vs justice. If one person “chooses” ( I am SO sick of that word!) “wisely” (LOL) the “
system” still collapses! Everything cannot be “individualized”.

So, you have no faith in the “individual” and all choices should be made by the government? For the “good of the country” or the “good of Mankind”? What do you think got us in this mess? Do you think the big, bad corporations did it all on their own? Tell me, what happened to the airline worker’s pensions? Why are they only getting about 40 cents on the dollar? What happened to the NJ State worker’s pension when some idiot in the state government invested 80% of it in Enron? But “people” can’t be trusted to save and invest for their own retirement, right? That’s just too damned hard. That’s too much responsibility. People should just be good little lambs and follow the leader to the slaughter, right? And we should just hand over our money and give it to the people that know what’s best for us. Government. It was government that put a $106,000 wage cap on SS taxes. It was government that didn’t put any restrictions on collecting SS, as long as you paid in, it doesn’t matter if you get a $28 million/year pension. And it was the government that decided $1,000/month or so is plenty for a poor retiree to live off of.

Yes, Middle Class and Working Class should be invested in the stock market. That’s how you take money away from the rich and powerful. And it’s very simple to do.

In 1975, John Bogle presented an idea to the board of directors of the newly formed Vanguard Group—create an extremely low-cost mutual fund that would not attempt to beat the returns of the stock market as measured by Standard & Poor’s 500 index instead, it would attempt to mirror the index as closely as it could by buying each of the index’s 500 stocks in amounts equal to the weightings within the index itself.

Big investment companies hate Bogle and Vanguard. A guy I know works for Merrill Lynch, he told me, through his company, you can buy into any mutual fund in the country except Vanguard. There’s a reason for that. See if you can figure it out.

That link I provided for Capital Bank, where I keep my money was formed by local business owners. One of the Board members is a man by the name of Danny Falasca. He and his Father own a plumbing company with a union shop. These local business leaders saw a need for a community bank to help finance many projects in the region. Meanwhile, two BoA branches in my town don’t do shit except suck up people’s money.

The fact is, that there are many businesses and corporations that do have a sense of civic responsibility, and it’s up to the American people, not the government, to decide which companies best serve their communities, and which don’t. But people need to be aware of the facts, and do a little research. Local communities, in my area, fight tooth and nail to prevent corporate retailers like Wal-Mart from building. Other communities welcome them. Why?

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

Just barely off topic but anyone else love Brad Pitt’s performance in 12 Monkeys?  That was one great piece of acting crazy.  It looks more on target each year since.

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By truedigger3, September 21, 2009 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment

C Curtis Dillon wrote:
“I would agree that, sadly, the left is still rudderless and adrift.  I get this sense that they are still holding out hope that Obama will get the message and start trying to correct what is wrong. “
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I wrote several times before and here I write it again: We don’t have a “left” in this country.
If you think we have a “left”, then who are its leaders? What is its election platform? What newspaper or TV or Radio stations are its voice? How is it organised? Where is it headquatered?  etc etc.
Do you see what I mean!!
What we have are scattered seperate groups and each group cares about a single issue and a single issue only and nothing else, from gay and lesbian issues, gender issues, homeless issues, environmentat issues, race issues, animals treatment issues etc etc etc.
The primary concern of a “REAL LEFT” is protecting the common folks from the greed and exploitation of the moneyed class and the tyranny of the governmentn they control. That REAL LEFT will be calling for living wage jobs with benefits, universal health care, secure retirement, safe working conditions etc etc etc. Where is that “left” now?
Anyone is still thinking that Obama eventually will change things as he promised during the election campaign is deaf, blind and dumb.

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

I can see that we are doomed.  Overpopulation is really going to do us all in.  There are no good outcomes for everyone anymore.  Things are going to go from bad to worse to take cover and kiss your ass goodbye kind of horrible.  Sorry to speak the obvious.  You all can see it coming just as easily as I can.

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By bist, September 21, 2009 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment
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Chris, I always enjoy the truth you offer us and often find it very important.  ?
However, I can’t understand how you don’t see the importance of the truth ?
about what happened on 9/11, the defining event of our time.  Today there is a
?MOUNTAIN of evidence (from the oral testimonies of the people that were ?
there, hard scientific research showing explosives in the dust, hundreds of ?
architects & engineers saying explosives brought the buildings down and on ?
and on) that completely contradicts the Official (Bush - Zelikow) Story that we
have been told over and over again.

Do you not see and understand that the truth about what really happened on
that day has the very real ?potential to bring about the systemic changes we so
desperately need now? 

Here’s a short audio of Lional Show on Air America, who I think sums up the ?
problem pretty well: (http://airamerica.com/content/lionel-after-911-look-
what-we-did).

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By gerald4, September 21, 2009 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

Real wealth and real monetary value is created only when the members of a family (or an organization, tribe, country, etc.) plant, grow and/or harvest something of commercial value from the earth, extract something of commercial value from the earth, provide professional services (medical, legal, dental, engineering, architecture, accounting, land surveying, technology, etc.), and/or makes (manufactures or constructs) something of commercial value that is consumable (or permanently useful rentable) and then sells, leases or rents these items and/or services to parties outside of their family in return for a net transfer of gold, currency or commodities from other parties outside of their family into their own family. The members of that family can reflect their real wealth with the accumulation of grain, gold, cattle, jewels, land, buildings, commodities and/or other marketable products for reserve use in times of emergency and/or also to raise the standard of living for the members of that family.

The US Government essentially became bankrupt when the US stopped redeeming our US T-Bills, US bonds, US dollars, and etc. for gold from our gold reserves at Fort Knox in 1971 or 1972. The US government then declared that the dollar is now backed by the “full faith and credit of the USA” (aka Junk Bonds). We now redeem foreign earned US dollars and other currencies for the title to privately owned US property (real estate, farms, agri-businesses, food supplies, dairies, forests, industries, breweries, hotels, factories, casinos, financial institutions, retail businesses, etc.) located in the US, instead of gold. This allows US citizens to sell assets generated by previous generations in lieu of US citizens having to work to produce the things that US citizens consume.  These privately owned US located assets are finite, and the day will come when there is nothing left to sell to foreigners, and then we will then have to re-industrialize because we will then not be able to pay foreigners to work and make the things that we consume. 

If US citizens are not willing to work for lower wages than the foreigner workers employed in foreign countries are paid, then the USA cannot compete based upon lower product costs. If we cannot compete on lower costs, then maybe we could be competitive internationally through other areas such as superior technology, as we did in during WWII and the few decades following WWII.

The USA is no longer the World Technology leader that the USA was until the 1970’s. Asian countries are now are the technology leaders. The best & brightest students in the USA have pursued the more financially rewarding non-scientific careers, instead of educations that might have created technically innovative products that people in foreign countries might purchase.

We need to reverse course of our educational system and re-emphasize science and engineering to create many more medical doctors, engineers, scientists, and educators as the educational system did prior to the 1970’s. The USA scientists, medical doctors, engineers, and educators must also become much better educated, much more intelligent, and otherwise much more superior to any foreign educated engineer and/or scientist in order to design, create, innovate, and produce new technical products that foreigners do not have, so that the foreigners will then buy these new products from the USA, in exchange for their foreign gold and currency which could then be sent to the USA companies.

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By bist, September 21, 2009 at 12:32 pm Link to this comment
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Chris, I always enjoy the truth you offer us and often find it very important. 
However, I can’t understand how you don’t see the importance of the truth
about what happened on 9/11, the defining event of our time.  Today there is a
MOUNTAIN of evidence (from the oral testimonies of the people that were
there, hard scientific research showing explosives in the dust, hundreds of
architects & engineers saying explosives brought the buildings down and on
and on) that completely contradicts the Official (Bush - Zelikow) Story that we
have been told over and over again.

Do you not see and understand that the truth about what really happened on
that day has the very real potential to bring about the systemic changes we so
desperately need now?

Here’s a short audio of some guy on Air America, who I think sums up the
problem pretty well: (http://airamerica.com/content/lionel-after-911-look-
what-we-did).

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By bist, September 21, 2009 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment
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Chris, I always enjoy the truth you offer us and often find it very important. 
However, I can’t understand how you don’t see the importance of the truth
about what happened on 9/11, the defining event of our time.  Today there is a
MOUNTAIN of evidence (from the oral testimonies of the people that were
there, hard scientific research showing explosives in the dust, hundreds of
architects & engineers saying explosives brought the buildings down and on
and on) that completely contradicts the Official (Bush - Zelikow) Story that we have been told over and over again.

Do you not see and understand that the truth about what really happened on that day has the very real
potential to bring about the systemic changes we so desperately need now? 

Here’s a short audio of some guy on Air America, who I think sums up the
problem pretty well: (http://airamerica.com/content/lionel-after-911-look-
what-we-did).

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By shemp333, September 21, 2009 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

I just have to point this out.  What effect will standing outside this meeting,  screaming and waving signs,  have upon this meeting? 

Help me out here… really.

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By KDelphi, September 21, 2009 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

Pittsburgh Organizing Group:http://www.organizepittsburgh.org/node/409

wageslave—I dont see alot of people defending the Left here, nor Obama.

Not everyone here is “middle class”—I sure as hell am not.

I agree that Dems are the right wings bitch, but I dont agree with Social Darwinism. I thik that the horrible plight of this country indicates more of a need for organized resistance, but you will probably not find it here, true.

I hope that you are in Pittsburgh. I cant be.

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By wageslave, September 21, 2009 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

So, fully armed and equiped combat toops just back from Iraq will set up a parimeter and patrol/shut down the area around the summit.  On American soil.  Denying Americans the right of assembly and disent in the area.  Just like protesters under the Bush administration that were herded into fenced areas blocks away.  But right wing hate mongers carrying loaded guns can stand just feet outside of a hall where the President is speaking.  And the “left” does what?
Right wing lunitics can kill Doctors that run women’s health clinics and the “left” does what?
The United States is now a Fascist oligarchie and the “left” does what?
Nothing you do is covered in the major media.  Other than progressive news sites and blogs where you all come togeather to agree and fume no writing makes it to the light of day on main street America.
Just exactly what the fuck do you people do?  If you think “well, someday the masses will rise up and then, by gawd, we’ll be there to educate and lead them…” 
So again: Just exactly what the fuck do you people do?  So far all I see is are young people that call them selves anarchists that have a propensity to cry at the drop of a hat, ancient hippies that really beleive that non-violent protest (“follow the example of Ghandi!”) and abhore violence in any form including the hair shirt liberal/weekend protestor that plays at non-violence because they’re cowards and don’t want to loose the condo and BMW that is still owed on mentally masturbating each other online.  That’s all in the fuck I see you disgruntled peaceniks doing. 
Which means it was too late the day Reagan got elected.  The “music died”, assholes. 
The way I see it, it is every man for himself, politics is bullshit, voting is for suckers (you fucking have to know that by now! Even as the majority the Dems are the right-wings’ bitch.)
and basic survival skills are more important than what a dead political paradigm steams about itself.  Especially to us of the underclass/working class.  Enjoy this avenue to vent while you have it.  Change you can beleive in turned into no change and a worst ass fucking than we were getting under Bush.

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By KDelphi, September 21, 2009 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

Night Guant—Shock Doctrine….

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By tropicgirl, September 21, 2009 at 11:30 am Link to this comment

One of my conservative friends told me that the she thinks the “progressives” (I
won’t use the word left) will be the ones, after all, to set up Obama for a huge fall.
She is worried about HIS safety because of the racist comments made by his own
group. I have to say it got me thinking…

I don’t think we can compare the days gone by with what is happening now.
Labels have changed and it can be very misleading. But I can’t help thinking about
JFK and LBJ…

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By Night-Gaunt, September 21, 2009 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

“The best thing that happened to the Establishment is the election of a black president,” Holmes said. “It will contain people for a given period of time, but time is running out. Suppose something else happens? Suppose another straw breaks? What happens when there is a credit card crisis or a collapse in commercial real estate? The financial system is very, very fragile. The legs are being kicked out from underneath it.”

That is my assessment. And the straw is there to break at the “right” time for the fascists who want our gov’t to fall. So they can put up their own.

“Obama is in trouble,” Holmes went on. “The economic crisis is a structural crisis. The recovery is only a recovery for Wall Street. It can’t be sustained, and Obama will be blamed for it. He is doing everything Wall Street demands. But this will be a dead end. It is a prescription for disaster, not only for Obama but the Democratic Party. It is only groups like ours that provide hope. If labor unions will get off their ass and stop focusing on narrow legislation for their members, if they will go back to being social unions that embrace broad causes, we have a chance of effecting change. If this does not happen it will be a right-wing disaster.”

It will be a right wing caused disaster but it will be one planned to happen. A “disaster is just another opportunity” they will use. So that when we have no inclination to support our gov’t it will fall an they will come in to fill that vacuum with their corporate/theocratic/militarist view of the world and their version of a “better state” and most will snap it up out of desperation and no other good choices to be had. Only worse choices will they have for us. But if they fail to take over at that time the landscape might turn into “The Road” and that would be catastrophic.

Don’t forget Atwood‘s “The Handmaid’s Tale” with the quote found “Don’t let the bastards get you down” by the un-named protagonist of the story of relationships in a newly formed Christian fascist state. [Sometime between 2012 and 2022 by my reckoning of the internal information given.]

Those who original took the money from brown Arabs would be white Christians of the USA.

Yes Bane-Richter that is the kind of Great Depression we are in. Unemployment at 16.7% right now but “depression” is now called “recession” to help us think differently. The other shoe could and can still drop us into the abyss. Anytime.

“Globalization” is just making what is local into international. It could be just for the corporations benefit or it could be for the rest of us too. Globalized economic security and worker rights is what I want and many others. What NAFTA needs right now or it should be scrapped.

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By KDelphi, September 21, 2009 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

Globalisation brought inevitable and, to the informed, predictable results. I bought it under Clinton and it was the last idiotic Democratic party policy I ever bought. It should be for everyone else, too.

Anyone who frequents socialist websites this week has seen many of them shut down, and alot of university sites are spitting out Trojans. Dont tell me its a coincidence.

FatFreddy—the middle and working classes have no busines in the stock mkt inthe first place—its just a way for the govt to privitize pensions. Risk vs justice. If one person “chooses” ( I am SO sick of that word!) “wisely” (LOL) the “
system” still collapses! Everything cannot be “individualized”.

tropicgirl makes good points—I am SO sick of hearing, “this would be best, but I just cant do it”—f-you then!! And I knew that Acorn messed up—but it was still a witchhunt. WHY is it that, even community organizers, who SHOULD know better (!!) get into power and forget where they came from???!

Big B—GOOD FOR YOU! I wish I could be there. Only problem with your last statement, is assuming that if they COULD see that they would give a rat’s ass. Surely Obama has “seen” this, being from a middle class background and Michelle from working class.I guess she becqame a hospital administrator and forgot…

BTYW—wtf happened to posse comitatus? Oh yes the USA Patriot Act, which Obama went along with. Although there are so many versions, now, which one was it that allowed a military to be deplopyed against US citizens?

Allan—where did Hedges “sympathize” with GOE? I understand what he was saying, haveing worked with vets—these guys are justificiably enraged, they just have the wrong target.

USA Patriot Act up for renewal:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/us/politics/20patriot.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=feingold&st=cse

An alternative:
“...The bill filed Sept. 17 — which is championed in particular by two Democratic senators, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin and Richard J. Durbin of Illinois — would repeal the immunity provision. ..

...The measure would also tighten statutory restrictions to ban the “bulk collection” of phone calls coming into the United States from overseas. Some security specialists say that they doubt the National Security Agency has that capability today, but that it could become feasible as classified technology advances.

“Every single member of Congress wants to give our law enforcement and intelligence officials the tools they need to keep Americans safe,” Mr. Feingold said in a statement when filing the bill. “But with the Patriot Act up for reauthorization, we should take this opportunity to fix the flaws in our surveillance laws once and for all.”

Kit Bond is fighting it, probably along with President Obama.


Letter from Russ Feingold:

Full ViewTime for some JUSTICE
From: “Melissa Ryan, Feingold Senate Committee” 

“I wanted to make sure that you saw this article from the Sunday New York Times outlining the upcoming debates around renewal of certain provisions of the Patriot Act.

NYT: Battle Looms Over Patriot Act

Last week, Russ and nine of his Senate colleagues introduced legislation to fix provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act. The JUSTICE Act would give the government the ability and tools to effectively fight terrorism while also protecting our constitutional rights.  The bill will address some surveillance authorities that threaten the rights and freedoms of law-abiding Americans.

I know that this is an issue we all care about, and in the coming weeks we’ll be in touch with some ways you can help Russ get the message out about the JUSTICE Act. “

If one cannot go to Pittsburgh, one can at least write and call to badck this half-measure.

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By Jon, September 21, 2009 at 10:57 am Link to this comment
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If I remember my world history, after WWI in Germany, the right suddenly took up the cause of the ‘ordinary German’ in terms of the economy, inflation, and other grass roots issues, and they got into power, and with them came Adolf Hitler.  Today, we see the right starting to take up grass roots issues, although not with much finesse, but we’re hearing and seeing it happen on cable TV, in protests, and on talk radio.  The right wing of the GOP seems to be setting the news and talking points agenda, with Democrats playing into their hands—following, not setting new agendas; look at how Democrats in Congress are reinforcing corporate power, which is what the right has been about all along.

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By tropicgirl, September 21, 2009 at 10:32 am Link to this comment

Dillon - Bingo! You are so right about the diversity aspect. The 60’s movement
was very successful… eventually. Then Ted Kennedy and the compromisers
came in… but that is another story.

Obama is caught up in the worst aspect of the Democratic party. Inept,
backward-looking, bribed-up and fancy themselves “experts” at PR campaigns.
The problem with that is you can’t be tone deaf and conduct communications.
Won’t happen.

Truth is, the conservatives I know do not care if gays get married. Some of
their children are gay. They care about the environment so much to engage in
local initiatives. They don’t really care if there is single payer as long as you
keep public and private separate. They DO care about tax dollars being
funneled into private corporations and the debt. They care about excessive
corporate salaries, albeit as shareholders, if not customers. They DON’t want us
to be involved in being police officers all around the world, especially if it is not
appreciated, and they know it is not… on this angle they care much more about
the welfare of our soldiers… ALL of us agree that American business has
become adversarial to regular people (like the mob) whether credit card
companies, health care corporations, banks, insurance companies and more.

THESE THINGS ARE NOT WHAT RUSH LIMBAUGH AND GLEN BECK BELIEVE.
QUITE THE OPPOSITE. But, if you are very astute and a careful and honest
analyzer you will see that OBAMA IS (at least action) MUCH MORE IN SYMPATHY
WITH GLEN BECK AND RUSH than he is with conservatives. And forget about the
liberals. On each of these issues Obama has paid lip service to reform, but is
really perpetuating the lack of reform.

Like the health care issue. His senate speech started out like this… “the health
insurance companies are totally out of control and the system is broken… the
left wants single payer or public option, the right wants no mandates (or
something)... BUT we can’t make these groups both happy (yes we could have)
and I DON’T WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT IS WORKING…

whaaaaaaa? This stupid-speak goes on all the time with him. You can’t come to
any other conclusion than he is really some sort of a center-leaning Republican
at heart. He loves everything about Reagan and those days when he was
coming up. He’s “smarter” than liberals. Slicker. He can compromise….

It may be ugly, it may be strange, but it is unavoidable that a crisis is coming
and there will be new alliances. The party labels have been turned upside down
now. Everything will be different and is already starting.

One of the immediate things that could be done is a policy for american people
first. Sounds a little republican but in reality it means jobs and fair trade. What
is more American than that? But mention this in front of the Democrats and
they will scream louder than Republicans. And the foreign countries (who
already practice a version of this) will scream bloody murder. They are all
invested with free-for-all trade. The left is not just unfocused, its totally
corrupt.

And as a practical matter… I worked with Acorn for years. It was the only thing
that rivaled the evangelical church “army”. They are amazing. I’m not defending
them as I know their faults. But those days may be over. The message is gone,
anyway.

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By mike112769, September 21, 2009 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

“Globalization” is just a term coined by Big Business. It basically justifies doing to the rest of the world what has been done to America. Globalization is the term they use when what they really mean is “We have used every readily available resource. We have exploited all of the local population for our personal profit. We are now ready to start this process over somewhere else.” I am all for Capitalism as an economic model. It is better than Socialism, Communism, Fascism, etc., and has been proven as such. However, there is a big problem with Capitalism. Where are we, as a society, to “draw the line” on what is an acceptable amount of greed for a corporation or company to have? Unrestricted greed from those companies is the root cause of EVERY financial problem we now face. Unrestricted avarice ended regulation of our financial markets, and look where that got us. Greed is what keeps the Federal Reserve in charge of our money. The Fed is in charge of our total monetary policy, and it is a group of private (not government) individuals. Nothing but greed, and concern for their own bank accounts, is controlling America’s money. The Fed has NO vested interest in the American economy. We are just an asset for them to use in balancing their own books. As Globalization becomes the accepted norm, we must realize that the same people who run the Fed also run the economies of other nations in the world. They can manipulate the financial markets to make investment in a foreign market look good. Big Business moves there for the cheap land and cheaper labor. Big Business sucks the country and people dry, and moves on to do it again elsewhere. The people who run the Fed make billions off of the deal, and set another one up somewhere else. Globalization is a virus that is being spread by the Banks through Big Business. It sucks all the profit it can from everyone else, at the expense of the people it claims to help. Capitalism is fine. Unrestricted capitalism is a curse on the world.

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By bane-richter, September 21, 2009 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Working class rage exploded into riots in 1877, it wasn’t just Pittsburg - state and local militias were opening fire everywhere to crush resistance. credit dried up, foreclosures and factory closings became common. The Panic of 1873: credit dried up, foreclosures and factory closings became common, of the country’s 364 railroads, 89 went bankrupt, over 18,000 businesses failed between 1873 and 1875 and unemployment reached 14 percent by 1876, while workers who kept their jobs were employed for a mere six months out of the year and suffered a 45% cut in their wages to approximately one dollar per day.  Are things that much different today?

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By Mary Ann McNeely, September 21, 2009 at 10:15 am Link to this comment

The United States - RIP (Republicans In Power).

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, September 21, 2009 at 9:59 am Link to this comment

I would agree that, sadly, the left is still rudderless and adrift.  I get this sense that they are still holding out hope that Obama will get the message and start trying to correct what is wrong.  They are wrong, of course.  He has too much invested in his corporate sponsors to every make the right decisions.  The right is organized more because they have a base in the evangelical churches.  The left has no such center.  Maybe their concerns are too diffuse to actually gel into a shared anger and cause.  I think if Obama fails to convince them that he is on their side, then they might do something. 

As for protesting and lambs, it is only in mass anger that those in power will listen.  A million voices raised in unison is far more powerful than when they are disorganized.  And Pittsburgh, more than any other place, has significance to those in power.  They are all together and might hear those raised voices and feel fear.  And perhaps, those voices may reach our political leaders and give them the courage to resist their masters.  Stranger things have happened!

One final thought: the antiwar demonstrations of the 60s didn’t really impact policy until they spread from the radicals to parents and grandparents.  I think the politicians were able to justify their positions given resistance came from college students ... but they had little cover when others joined in.  As in that era, we need to enlist more than the left.  We need diversity to get our message across.

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By fredmoz, September 21, 2009 at 9:54 am Link to this comment

Mr Hedges please forget about Pittsburgh and G20. I suggest an alternative site. Why not DC? It is open. Could we have a Million people march at DC? Couldn’t we have a speaker to remind us of I have dream speech of MLK. Couldn’t we deal with Obama lack of serious actions on Health care, Fair employment act, regulation of financial center…? Haven’t we then moved Pittsburgh to DC? Am I dreaming?

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By Eric, September 21, 2009 at 9:53 am Link to this comment
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I’m tired of hearing about the left and the right.  Obama’s approval rating is the worst among INDENPENDENTS.  People who are sick of the Democrats and Republicans.  People who know that the radical left and right are not good for our country and who disagree strongly with both.  People I like to call Middle America.  People like me. 

WE are the people who are getting angry.  WE are the people who showed up in D.C. on Sept 12.  We are the people yelling at health care town hall meetings.  We are the people who can no longer standby and allow this to continue to happen. 

Republicans are ignoring us, and Democrats are dismissing us, even demonizing us.  Jimmy Carter calls us Racists, Eric Holder calls us cowards.  We are paying for the rich and we are paying for the poor.  Middle America’s way of life is in decline everyday.

If you are a middle class American, vote against anyone who doesn’t represent you, Democrat or Republican,

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By Shift, September 21, 2009 at 9:14 am Link to this comment

Time is running out and for your own good downsize your lives, join the slow movement, and live as sustainably as possible.  It takes some doing, so get started before the final collapse.  Develop a skill to add to the new economy, the local economy.  Network with skilled workers, craftsmen, and farmers.  Develop a plan to provide food, water, shelter, heat and medicine for your family.  Be capable of defending your home.  Buy the seed you need now and the knowledge to grow and store food.  Time is running out. The unforgiving days of economic collapse will visit each of you, so get ready now.  Work to develop plans to defend your family, neighborhood, and local community from the forces of fascism.

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By herewegoagain, September 21, 2009 at 9:13 am Link to this comment
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I know this will sound overly simplified, but what would happen if we took 50% of the energy we expend outraged about global and national issues - and physically directed it instead towards what we can do in our own town or county? It could be the simplest thing, like recruiting some likeminded folks to secure a small portion of land for a community garden. Or holding classes to teach youngsters how to sew, cook, to MAKE things, or to hold a free film series focused on DIY living.

I imagine the more creative among my truthdig friends have even better ideas, but the gist here is to literally reject, rather than just vocally protest the helpless consumer roles the globalists want to keep us in.

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By tropicgirl, September 21, 2009 at 9:00 am Link to this comment

Chris, unfortunately (or fortunately, we do not know) you just made the case for
the tea parties. Change will not come from the left, unfortunately. It is going to be
a right wing movement, disaster or not. Its over for the left. Obama and the Dems
killed it for a long time to come.

Hopefully we can stop bashing the right wing and unite against globalization,
corporate welfare, censorship and the like, which is the valuable nugget of the tea
party, not health insurance, believe me.

This is the only way to real change. Encourage the social liberalism of the
conservatives, it is now there. Respect their courage to go against Obama’s
corporate welfare, the left has none.

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By arnold ziffel, September 21, 2009 at 8:40 am Link to this comment
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Take down the overlords!!!!!!!!!!

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By cognitis1, September 21, 2009 at 8:26 am Link to this comment

Necessary is for Krueger to discern between
“empathize with” and “consent with or to”. Reason
evidently doesn’t govern Elisa’s trite diction
accepted unconsciously from the Ruling Class’ Media.
I accept much of Chris hedges’ precepts and consent
with much of his arguments; but he now assumes the
role of shepherd, who leads sheep to slaughter: why
congregate in spaces defined by the government—the
same government described as hostile by both Hedges
and most posters here? Why suffer observation and
possible grave physical injury in such spaces defined
by hostile persons? The Ruling Class has never
mutated its designs for cause of protests either
within or outside its defined spaces. Protesters
congregate in Pittsburgh now only for cause of
obeying stupidly customs from the ‘60s or various
Progressive Leaders—many of whom are paid clowns of
the Ruling Class—and have yet to define their common
interests (they have none) less have formed coherent
designs for attaining such common interests. You
protesters are nothing more than an undisciplined
irrational herd much like sheep, and sheep get
slaughtered.

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By m_astera, September 21, 2009 at 8:18 am Link to this comment
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Real fish

Ummm.  Well those who really took the money would be Jews, not Arabs.  You know that already.

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By Allan Krueger, September 21, 2009 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

Chris, you are brilliant - BUT - you lost me the other day when you were empathizing with The Gathering of Eagles group (bikers, burnouts and thugs). Anyone who believes that GOE is a patriotic organization ought to try being opposed to them at any rally… then, you can experience their profanity and threats, first hand! To me, they are The Gathering of Burnouts!

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By Hotrod, September 21, 2009 at 7:45 am Link to this comment
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Chris is exactly correct.  The angry masses that are growing each day will embrace Fascism before considering other alternatives (if any other alternatives are even offered to them).  The military/corporate complex will be more than happy to provide the vehicle to make this happen.

If people weren’t so damn ignorant of history they would know that the never ending struggle has always been between the economic predators and everyone else.  It will never change unless force is met with force.

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By Rodger Lemonde, September 21, 2009 at 6:55 am Link to this comment
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The globe we all share is a finite system. How long can
it run on growth? Progress as concentration of
resources is unsustainable. As resources become
concentrated the population continues to expand. The
systems we have are flawed and those who have the most
resources oppose the systems we need to operate a
balanced economy that sustains the whole earth’s
population.

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By elisalouisa, September 21, 2009 at 6:52 am Link to this comment

The delegates to the G-20, the gathering of the world’s wealthiest nations, will
consequently be protected by a National Guard combat battalion, recently
returned from Iraq. The battalion will shut down the area around the city
center, man checkpoints and patrol the streets in combat gear. Pittsburgh has
augmented the city’s police force of 1,000 with an additional 3,000 officers.
Helicopters have begun to buzz gatherings in city parks, buses driven to
Pittsburgh to provide food to protesters have been impounded, activists have
been detained, and permits to camp in the city parks have been denied. Web
sites belonging to resistance groups have been hacked and trashed, and many
groups suspect that they have been infiltrated and that their phones and e-
mail accounts are being monitored
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It is important to know how far the power elite will go to protect their station and financial accumulation stolen from the workers of America.
Such force implies that views which are not in their interests are not in the
equation of decision making. You might even call it the silencing of the lambs.
The action that Chris writes of to stop any resistance is only part of what is
going on. I cannot help but feel that something was left unsaid in this column.

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By Marc Schlee, September 21, 2009 at 6:42 am Link to this comment
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It’s time for us to take back the streets.


FREE AMERICA

REJECT FREE SPEECH ZONES

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, September 21, 2009 at 6:18 am Link to this comment

I’m just wondering when enough people will “get it” and start working against the system.  I sense a lot of frustration in many of the sites I visit every day but there are still so many who think everything is great.  One commenter said, a few days ago, that there wasn’t enough shared pain yet to create a revolution. I think he is right.  Many refuse to even consider that their position is as precarious as those who are already over the edge.  It is that old denial ... if I ignore the 800 lb. gorilla it won’t hurt me.  Of course this is a stupid stance but one that many find comforting.

Unfortunately, as we speak, many more lose their health care insurance, many more seek bankruptcy to protect their dwindling nest egg and many go to sleep every night wondering if tomorrow will be the end of their world.  We have allowed this virulent disease to enter our society and now it may be too late to stop.  How I wish we had let the whole thing collapse last year.

My big concern, beyond my own situation, is the growing structural unemployment in much of the industrialized world.  These are people who want to work and even have a valid skill set but are unable to find work because there are just not enough jobs to go around.  As we export more and more factories and technology overseas, the country can’t generate enough replacement jobs of any kind to replace those lost.  So we see so many capable people working part time in mind-numbing jobs at WalMart or Home Depot just so they can feed their families.  This isn’t right but is being covered up by the government.  The unemployment number of 9.7% is a lie ... it is easily twice that high if you include underemployed and those who have just given up.  Of course, no president will bring this to light as it shows just how bad our situation has become.

I wish I could be in Pittsburgh this week but have to deal with a major visa problem here in Eastern Europe.  I am hopeful we see huge demonstrations there and that our leaders get the message.  But somehow I doubt it.  So we have to do this the hard way.  And Hedges is right ... we need to stop the right wing with their distorted message from grabbing the brass ring and stealing our future.  That would be a truly disastrous outcome.

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By Big B, September 21, 2009 at 5:52 am Link to this comment

Greetings from Pittsburgh, PA! Since the “Stillers” lost yesterday we will be dealing with people lining up on the Clemente Bridge all afternoon, planning their swan dives into the Allegheny River. After that, we will begin our plans for the G-20. Those plans being the closing of nearly half the city for almost week. And of course, the elimination of civil liberties in the name of security.

I find it ironic that the same group of world leaders that helped bring about the demise of our once great city, are now returning to the scene of their crime. What do think the odds are that anyone of the leaders of the G-20 will take a tour of the Pittsburgh that their policies raped and left for dead over 30 years ago? The blighted neihborhoods, the rusting hulks of old steel mills that once employed tens of thousands, the vacant lots, the unkempt streets.

No, they will go to the top of mount Washington, so they can look down only at the nice skyline, the new stadiums, the new casino, and say to themselves “hey, this city appears to be doing pretty well” Nothing could be further from the truth. We have lost over 60% of our population in the last 30 years(and it continues to fall)Pittsburgh’s finances have been run by a state oversite board for a few years now because we were bankrupt. The only major employers in the entire city are the university of Pittsburgh Health system(which runs a monopoly of our local hospitals) and the state office building. If it wasn’t for our many local colleges(Pitt, Carnegie Mellon, Carlow, Point Park, Duquesne) this would be a ghost town. We parents in the area all have the same wish for our children, get a good education, so you can get the hell out of this burned out ‘burg and have a chance at a good life.

Take a good look, you power brokers of the G-20, for this is what your policies of disaster capitalism have done to a once productive and proud city that played a major role in re-building the world after WWII.

When you get done raping us this time, could you leave us cab fare?

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By lisa, September 21, 2009 at 5:50 am Link to this comment
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The practical problem with violence as method is that the secondary outcomes are both unpredictable and larger than the primary outcomes. This makes violence particularly risky for those with more to lose - and these are the people least accustomed to real-world risks - the wealthy political overclass.

I do hope I’m wrong about this, but if, as seems possible or implied with the G20 business at hand, “they” mean to use their army at Pittsburg in some dramatic and violent way against the ordinary people, mean to “teach a lesson”, then even though they will succeed on the tactical level and perhaps later on on a stragegic level in further “lessons” - then they will have created new “ground” that brings with it unknown outcomes. Unknown except that they will have weakened themselves.

They will, by using violence in a strong measure against the people make some of the people view violence as an option to exploit. Not the demonstrators, but the use of soldiers against the people - that may well trigger a terrible process.

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By Fat Freddy, September 21, 2009 at 5:31 am Link to this comment

If labor unions will get off their ass and stop focusing on narrow legislation for their members, if they will go back to being social unions that embrace broad causes, we have a chance of effecting change

Placing a tariff on Chinese made tires would be “narrow legislation”?

Labor unions need to take a long, hard look at where their pension funds are being invested. They could be investing against their own best interests. Americans, in general, also need to look at where their 401ks and IRAs are being invested. The same thing that drives Wall Street, drives Wal-Mart; consumer demand. Americans have the power to tell their investors where to put their money, the same way they have the power to choose where to buy their kid’s back-to-school supplies. Americans have something that many people in other countries don’t have; choice. Until Americans start taking responsibility for their investment decisions, they have no one to blame but themselves. How many people still have checking and savings accounts with BoA and Citi? I sure as shit don’t. This is where my money is:

http://www.capitalbanknj.com/

Where’s yours? Where’s your neighbor’s?  Sure, there’s some “conveniences” that are sacrificed. And maybe the interest rate isn’t as high on CDs and Money Market accounts, but what do you really want?

Forget about crying about “Globilzation” and “Capitalism”, and tell people how to take control back by the means that real Capitalism provides. Imagine that, using Capitalism to fight “Capitalism”. It’s all there, if you are willing to negotiate the minefield of deceptive and misleading advertising and marketing, and sacrifice a little. It’s your money, you can tell the manager of your 401k, exactly where to put your money.

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By Ouroborus, September 21, 2009 at 5:04 am Link to this comment

TheRealFish, September 21 at 6:59 am #

Thanks for the memory (Network); downloading it now.
Yes, the future is now and decisions must be made.

Orwell was another who saw the future;
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is
strength.” (1984)

Kinda like now, no?

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By Howie Bledsoe, September 21, 2009 at 4:51 am Link to this comment
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Well, Ardee, you are half right.  Glaobalization HAS narrowed the gaps between have and have-nots.
If “haves” being the middle class and “have nots” being the working poor, that is.
The haves are now in the soup line with the have-nots.

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By TheRealFish, September 21, 2009 at 3:59 am Link to this comment

Paddy Chayefsky, liberal playwright of the last century “got it” way back when—one example being his 1976 script for the film Network.

Here is how giganto-corp CEO character Arthur Jenson put it to the film’s Mad Prophet of the Airwaves Howard Beale, when he had Beale cornered in his lush boardroom:

“You think you’ve merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today!”

1976. Before Reagan’s very-real Revolution that has placed us in the current stew where the flames cooking us all are multinational corporations running the world-wide show, where all those corporations are extra-national, owing no allegiance to any specific country (“US” company Halliburton moves its corporate headquarters to *Dubai*? anyone?).

Many thought that movie was only about the TeeVee machine and that it was a satire.

Chayefsky had his eyes open at the very least. or perhaps it is that he was prescient. Thirty-three years later, his character Arthur Jensen’s shared truth was a warning about the “future” that we now live in.

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By bogi666, September 21, 2009 at 3:54 am Link to this comment

So called “Globalization” is meant to sooth the actual process for the “One World System”, the “New World Order” declared by Bush1. These term is meant to disguise the reality of world capitalism whether it works or is wanted, it’s what will be. Actually, in biblical terms the One Worlder’s are predicted as being the engine of the Beast, a system not a creature.The facilitation of Capital flows makes money laundering impossible to stop. For instance, when living in Cancun, Mexico it was easy to spot the fronts, businesses, used to launder money. A portable closet set up as a currency exchange, never manned, for example.Those charged with the “drug war” never put their feet on the ground and in fact aren’t even trained how to walk the beat so to speak.

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By walt, September 21, 2009 at 3:28 am Link to this comment

“Globalization means never having to say you’re sorry.”

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By Ouroborus, September 21, 2009 at 3:03 am Link to this comment

IMO, with only minor nits to pick, Hedges continues
to “get it”. Proto-facism, yes, coming soon. Actually
the precursors of it are already here and our right
to assembly/autonomy is completely compromised.

It’s already late in the game to think about the
underground/black market economy; but for those
shaking off the last vestiges of denial, the time
would seem to be ripe for action. If one hasn’t got a
community, it’s probably a good time to find one.
Those already unemployed are in an ideal situation to
start learning how to go about getting involved. Who
knows, maybe you’ll find your true calling. Back in
the 60’s me and my friends operated completely
outside of the mainstream. I remember consciously
making the decision to step back into the mainstream
before I couldn’t; well, that was before I knew
better and once again, I’m on the outside looking in.
Good luck.

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By Wanda Guthrie, September 21, 2009 at 2:25 am Link to this comment
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This is wonderful!  Thank you for capturing the truth of our situation in Pittsburgh. All blessings, Wanda

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By ardee, September 21, 2009 at 2:20 am Link to this comment

Globalization means different things to different people. When I first heard the term I envisioned an economic movement that would narrow the gap between the haves and the have nots, that would bring a manufacturing base to the third world ,raising their standard of living, providing full employment and the benefits we here in the USA used to take for granted.

Instead, and under the direction of the usual suspects, the globalization movement has become yet another tool in the arsenal of greedy capitalist running dogs unable to understand the reasonable limits to the accumulation of wealth…go figure.

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