A good chunk of the population knows that life won’t improve for them during the Obama presidency, but hopefully, it won’t get much worse, either. Oddly, Barack Obama adamantly stated that he was opposed to the old “trickle down economics” theory. It became evident by last summer, however, that his social policy agenda IS trickle down economics. It’s a continuation of the same damaging policies enacted by the 1996 welfare “reform” bill. I don’t think people in general care about these policies, much less about America’s poor. We know that, as a direct result of welfare “reform”, the infant mortality rate among our poor has soared, while the life expectancy of America’s poor is now lower than that of some Third World nations, but we’re OK with that.

This is surprising, in view of all that we’ve seen over the past quarter century.  Our economy is like a house, with the poor being the foundation. While we’ve been putting all our money into an excessively ornate roof, the foundation has been crumbling away. This house is starting to collapse, and we can’t save it by hammering more nails into the roof. But we aren’t going to shore up the foundation, either, if only as a matter of principle.

Chris Hedges is wrong in his comment that Obama is ” placating the thieves on Wall Street”.  Obama didn’t do it for wall street bankers. He did it for the ignorant and foolish American voters who would stampede for the Republicans if the media portrayed his vote as causing depression, causing collapse in their house prices, and causing collapse in their stock portfolios.

People truly are THAT stupid, and Obama knows it.

I don’t think Obama is any angel.  He’s a politician doing what it takes to get elected. It occurs to me Chris Hedges is like Obama, afraid to point out how stupid and emotionally driven the American voters are.  Instead of blaming Obama, he should be going after the media, the educational system and the church pulpits are the 3 largest institutions of mass indoctrination and culture, and THE AMERICAN VOTERS.

Dennis Kucinich is right when he says Obama did succumb to the politics of the moment when he went along with the “Bailout” bill.  But he’s still the only rational choice we have on November 4th.
The pressure put on Congress by the White House, the Fed, the Treasury and the media made everyone assume they had to pass something sooner rather than later.  Only time will tell if it was worth it or not.

The best thing I heard Obama say was that when the people were out in force demanding a new direction he would not oppose it.  Which if true would be unlike Bush and who knows how much of congress.

The reforms and actions required to heal the current wrongs will be by necessity of, by and from the people.  It is us, not our elected representatives, who must take the lead in remaking the world.

The sooner we start ramping up, the better.

It has been said the love of money is at the root of much evil and the bottom line in the mess the USA economy is in, is because GREED and not the best interests of Americans prevailed.

Another way to bail out institutions could have been to pay for it out of the Defense Budget which is by far the largest of any other nation in the world.

“Any nation that year after year continues to raise the Defense budget while cutting social programs to the neediest is a nation approaching spiritual death.”- Rev. MLK

Chris Hedges wrote:

“The passing of the $850-billion bailout pulled the plug on the New Deal. The Great Society is now gasping for air, mortally wounded, coughing up blood. It will not recover.”

Our Founding Father’s penned:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal…governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; and, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it.”
-July 4, 1776. The Declaration of Independence

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It’s true that this Democratic Congress and Obama’s campaigning have been cautious to the point of insipidity. I take scant comfort from the fact that FDR’s campaigning in 1932 was equally bland. It was not until he was firmly in power that he dared to undertake a program which, if he had proposed it in advance, would probably have tied him at the bottom along with Norman Thomas.

H. L. Mencken comes to mind, with a slight revision: No one ever lost an election underestimating the intelligence of the American voter.

wish i knew writes:

“Obama may be laying out plans that he will utlimately not be able to carry out, but at least he is offering SOMETHING. McCain and Palin keep spewing the same rhetoric “trust us, we are mavericks, we will fix everything, we will reform everything (wild applause)”. Yet they never quite say how.”

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wish i knew,

I SO MUCH appreciate your sensibility, and your connection with reality. It’s true of course, that Barack may be setting a blueprint for which *HE* cannot carry out…ALONE. But, he’s never claimed to. He’s only got ‘the plan’ but there’s no way he could possibly make it work -ON HIS OWN- because he’s basing that plan on the foundation of which we are supposedly built. He can’t carry this out on his own, because he’s not a dictator, and this system wasn’t set up that way.

Bottom line…if it’s gonna work, (after these criminals have so destroyed it) it’s only gonna happen with ALL of us participating. He’ll set up part of the legislative/bureaucracy that we need, (at least to pave the way) but that alone isn’t gonna do the trick.

Rather, we have to KNOW, that as fucked up as things have become under the corruptive and criminal element that highjacked us 8 years ago, we CAN get our country back, and more importantly, we WILL.

We’ll do it with leadership that SUPPORTS us, instead of criminals who’ve done everything they can to thwart our very existence.

I wish the choice would include someone like Kucinich who has always sided with the public interest.

It seems though we are afraid to break the two party system because if we do, the other party will win.

One can only “hope” if Obama gets in, he and congress can do some good. In the meantime we should keep their feet close to the fire.
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Micha,

Let’s think for just a moment, about what you’re saying here, because it reciting standard rhetoric, I fear you miss the context of the words…

First you mention about Dennis Kucinich being someone we would want to have because he sides with the public good.

THEN, (in the next breath) you say that it’s the problem with not wanting to break the 2 party system.

Do you know that Dennis Kucinich is a PART of that party system? Consequently, your suggestions here are incompatible.

Fact. We do NOT have a 2 party system. The US political system has as many ‘parties’ as choose to form. For this election, we have people running from FIVE parties. Democrat, Green, Libertarian, Peace & Freedom, and Republican. Count them. That’s FIVE political parties. Want more? Form one.

Meantime, Dennis Kucinich, (whom I too very much appreciate) is a Democrat. I highly respect him for remaining as such. Most of these others flip and switch around from party to party, but it doesn’t help their efforts.

I’m also very appreciative and respectful of Bernie Sanders, who is one less than a handful of Independents in the entire Congress. (I know of only two, and can’t think of the other one offhand).

Dennis Kucinich has come out in support of Barack Obama, and we more than ‘hope’ that he will provide the leadership required to work with Congress to get things done. We KNOW that he will.

Now all YOU have to do is elect him.

You cannot ignore the fact that Obama has ALWAYS proved himself to be a very good learner. What this article does not see, is that all of the people Hedges credits with good vision, can and hopefully will, be made a part of an Obama presidency.

It is counter-productive to bash Obama at this point in time/history.

The betrayal that Hedges speaks of is not really even news. All you had to do was look at the people giving Senator Obama economic advice, to realize he was not going to do anything but back the bailout/giveaway, despite all the lame rhetorical protests.
But since there is nothing new here, I rather point out something I heard Rick Santelli say on CNBC yesterday. He pointed out that Alan Greenspan, back in 2001, just before Halloween, did away with the 30 year T bill. The 30 year T bill was a solid financial instrument to manage long term fixed income. Well the genius of the Federal Reserve decided he did not want a 30 year obligation to be on the books, so it disappeared.
Well, there are lots of trust funds floating around in this world, and finding a safe place to store this dough was made more difficult by not having the 30 year T bill.
So where did these funds go? You guessed it, much of it went into mortgage backed securities. As Mr. Santelli pointed out, Greenspan and the Federal Reserve created an environment that acted as a catalyst for this disaster. Except for Rick Santelli, no one seems to have the guts to mention this at all.

Chris writes:

“Obama arrived on the Senate floor Brutus-like to thrust a knife into the back of the working and middle class. He lobbied hard for the bill. He did so, according to some who met with him on Capitol Hill, because he feared that if he opposed the bailout and it triggered a market collapse it could cost him the election.”

And, I’ve come to disbelieve Chris during the past 6 or so months, because of his very deliberate rhetoric. When I first saw this article posted, I did as I always do, and connected to the ‘title’ but hurriedly, because I’m without access to my own computer these days. That said, it wasn’t until I started reading it, that I realized that I had ‘assumed’ from the title, that Kucinich had written this. Instead, it’s just Chris Hedges, writing FOR Dennis Kucinich, (which or without his permission). Based on the very negative and biased rhetoric coming from Chris lately, he no longer holds any credibility with me, or my fellow colleagues…including those who pride themselves on professional journalism.

Yes, the bailout is a betrayal..and I think we can all agree to that. But it is the ending betrayal, that comes long, long, long, after the damage has been done.

I don’t believe Chris in his claim that Obama ‘lobbied HARD’ for it. That is subjective rhetoric, and Obama is hyper-pragmatic, regardless of whether one appreciates that or not. Anyone can tell the difference. This wasn’t a ‘lobbying issue’, and I resent the rhetoric, particularly with zero to back it up.

As for voting for Democrats just to make us feel better, (as troublesum suggests) let’s keep in mind that Dennis Kucinich is a democrat, and unlike other former democrats, hasn’t decided to put on another “label” or switch parties and call himself something else, just because times and the political system are in chaos. Thank you Dennis, for all you’ve done, and for all that you continue to do.

Meantime, the construction of the Supreme Court still hangs in a very precarious balance. We need to elect Barack Obama on November 4th, to be assured that we don’t lose the Court as well. If we do, you’ll all be ‘lobbying’ to get the hell out of here, the sooner the better.

Great article Mr. Hedges.

It looks like denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.  Obama shafted everyone AND so did McCain.  172 Democrats… MORE THAN 2/3 VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE BAILOUT.  Without hearings, without input from professionals and without listening to the demands of the American People.  To CLAIM that “it’s still better to have democrats in charge is delusional”.  These two parties ARE ONE AND THE SAME, and they serve MONIED INTERESTS.

“Overall, Democrats in the House favored the bill 172-63 in Friday’s vote; Republicans voted 108-91 against it.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-f i-bailout4-2008oct04,0,6267511.story

“Both parties’ presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, made rare appearances to cast “aye” votes.

Nine Democrats, 15 Republicans and independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted “no.“Here is a list of the Bailout vote in the Senate.”

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/artic le_1434336.php/The_Senate_Bailout_vote_tally_complete_list< /a>

bellow is the cr*p i received from the obama campaign in response to my e-mail in which i was explaining why he won’t be getting my vote:

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me about the state of our economy.  Before the crisis hit Wall Street, you and I know it had already hit Main Street.  That’s why I have been clear throughout this campaign on my top priority: helping middle class families.

America is facing one of the greatest financial crises in history, and the passage of an emergency rescue plan was absolutely necessary to prevent an economic catastrophe that could have cost millions of jobs and forced businesses across the country into bankruptcy.

I’m glad that Democrats and Republicans put aside their differences, came together, and took this step.  I am also grateful to the House Democrats I personally spoke with who supported this rescue plan.  While the Administration initially asked for a blank check to solve this problem, over the last few weeks we were able to include important taxpayer protections to prevent golden parachutes for CEOs, provide independent oversight, help struggling homeowners, and ensure that taxpayers get their money back when the economy recovers.

Now we must ensure that this Administration uses the authority it has been given wisely and in a way that protects American taxpayers.  We also must do more than this rescue package does to help homeowners stay in their homes.  And while we will all hope that this rescue package succeeds, we should be prepared to take more vigorous actions in the months ahead to rebuild capital if necessary.

This is not a time for celebration, but a sobering time, as we’ve recently found out that three-quarters of a million jobs were lost just this year.  Passing this rescue plan cannot be the end of our work to strengthen our economy – it must be the beginning.

I call on Congress to pass an emergency plan for the middle-class that will help folks cope with rising food and gas prices, save one million jobs by rebuilding our schools and roads, and help states and cities avoid budget cuts and tax increases.  It’s a plan that should extend expiring unemployment benefits for those Americans who’ve lost their jobs and cannot find new ones.

I will also continue to lay out the clear choice in this election between myself and Senator McCain:  four more years of policies that have killed jobs and devastated our middle-class, or a change in Washington that will provide tax relief to 95% of workers and create millions of new jobs by investing in clean, renewable energy.  It is time to end the era of greed and irresponsibility in Washington and on Wall Street so that we can come together and restore American prosperity from the bottom-up.

I’ve fought for working families for my entire career, and I will continue fighting for your interests as President.  I’m not taking lobbyist money, they aren’t running my campaign, and they won’t drown out your voices when I am President.

For more detail on my plan to bring real change to our economy and real relief to the middle class, please click here: http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/economyplan

I have developed a detailed legislative agenda to refocus government on the needs of the middle class and small businesses, and I hope you’ll take a look at it by clicking here:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/Obama_Kee ping_Americas_Promise.pdf

These plans build on laws I’ve passed in over a decade as a legislator.  Together, they provide a path to financial security for every American family by stimulating the economy, restoring fairness to the tax code, protecting home ownership, strengthening workers’ rights, and making sure that trade deals like NAFTA work for American workers.

I hope you will join me in this fight.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama

Beware the gloom and doom shared by well meaning people with opinions. Opinions which serve the interests of the very people who led us to this cliff. The REPUBLICANS!

Politicians are not always smart. And like some of their constituents, not always well-informed. We marveled at the public response when the “bailout bill” was introduced. And how little mention there was of the war. Proving most Americans, like most politicians forgot about the war when faced with a failing economy. Main Street never pays attention until they get hurt! Wall Street never stops paying attention!

Did this mess begin with Clinton? NO! He signed a bad REPUBLICAN bill that helped the mess along, [that not-so-smart thing] but the democrats are not responsible for the greed and corruption that IS the REPUBLICAN party! Republicans were hurting the people long before Clinton. This mess has been growing like a cancer, eating away inside the body until it explodes through the skin! A cancer that started growing the day FDR began the fixes that helped us recover from the Great Depression. The hatred the republican party has for anything and everything FDR did is that cancer. The need to destroy it ALL is fundamental to their platform. They will shoot themselves in the head before they will admit they were wrong - and THEY were responsible for the 1929 collapse - even all these years later.

I’m sorry, we don’t have Kucinich leading the democrat ticket. But we don’t. So I’m even sorrier that Hedge has decided to damn the democrats just because. This kind of bashing will only add speed to a complete collapse!

Every single nincompoop who bashes Obama and the democrats in this time of crisis risks pushing McCain into the White House, and that would nail the coffin shut. Republicans DO NOT KNOW HOW to fix the economy. They have in their entire history NOT ONE DEMONSTRABLE ACTION that proves leadership in the arena of growing a strong, lasting economy that serves the best interests of the entire nation. Not one! They love Milton FRIEDMAN fascist economics and Phil Graham duplicity.
They exist only to enrich the rich. And have no other motive or love, except war. It has always been so.

McCain is the perfect example of what republican leadership is. As quick to lie as breath. Favoring anyone and everyone who will push profit and power his way. Completely lacking in the strength of character to admit his part in a failing economy. A dishonest man who lives only to serve himself. He is a bag of conceit wrapped in an aging body. He knows NOTHING about running an economy and his running mate [believe it or not ] knows even less! Republicans have a long history of theft and dishonesty. Committing the crime then planting the evidence on someone else -even the victim. They do it. That is their method. They believe most voters are STUPID and easily twisted to believe any curent crisis is the fault of democrats. They have done it to us for generations! They caused this crisis just as surely as they created the lies that led us to attack Iraq.

I generally enjoy reading Hedge, but this time he does us a disservice. Choosing to blame the democrats for this crisis devalues his opinion on a wide variety of issues. Choosing to lable the democrats for the mess puts us even closer to the tragedy of another republican president. If that happens, we wont be here a year from now debating whether or not the Market will recover. We’ll be out of work and probably standing in a bread line!

Hedge offers no alternative save throw away your vote, which gives it to McCain. So I sincerely hope if McCain and Pain move into the White House and the republicans regain control of Congress and the whole country collapses completely, Hedge will spare us his wisdom when we bump into him under a collapsed bridge. And NOT tell us WE made a mistake!

I was watching McCain’s speech today. The man makes me physically ill to look at, much less to listen to. Obama may be laying out plans that he will utlimately not be able to carry out, but at least he is offering SOMETHING. McCain and Palin keep spewing the same rhetoric “trust us, we are mavericks, we will fix everything, we will reform everything (wild applause)”. Yet they never quite say how.

I cannot risk that man becoming President. I cannot stand the thought of Sarah Palin being that close to the Presidency. I cannot stand the thought of rewarding all the people who will vote for that woman just because they see themselves in her ignorance and self-righteous platitudes.

I will vote for Obama and Biden not because of what they will be able to do for our country from a legislative standpoint - we all know their hands are already tied regardless. But I will vote for Obama and Biden for the sheer fact that if this country is going to reclaim itself, it needs to start by sending a message to all of the people who have really busted their asses, donated money, and fought to wrestle the presidency out of the grips of neocon domination. It is those people who need some encouragement that they will have a tomorrow. Those people who can’t afford to live here, but can’t afford to leave either. Those people truly do not have a choice. A McCain presidency will do far more harm, and I cannot let that happen.

The Great Bailout Swindle is done. The bankers are saved and Wall St has more of our money to play with now that it has pissed away all of OUR money it already blew. Funny thing: Capitalism is still finished. The stock market is dead and diving daily, jobs are gone, banks are failing, and capital is shrinking because the fascist/Bourgieosie/corporate elite are still running the same con and the workers are still buying into their shell game.

We cannot allow this to continue as more banks and large corporations go tits up in the coming months. No more rescues at the expense of the workers. The one class that has done its job is getting shafted, as it always has historically. We are presented two POTUS candidates-one who wants two Iraq wars side by side, the other who wants two in Iran and Pakistan. A military draft is coming, folks. The bottom line is that the war is what got us in this mess, along with some greed to ice the bitter cake. Demonstrations against wars of aggression and occupation are a start. People in the streets to protest selling out the workers and giving a trillion to Wall St, while no moratorium on house foreclosures, mandatory mortgage renegotiation regs, or other steps to protect the workers were included-much less an increase in minimum slave wages or mandatory, universal health care. The workers have been sold out and Wall St just bought a government with our money. What a buy.

Calls to senators and congressmen were running 100 to 1 against the bailout.  You can’t hold their feet any closer to the fire than that and democrats still voted in favor of the bill by large margins.  Vote for democrats if it makes you feel better but don’t expect them to listen to you.

Just a little mental exercise here. Remember right after the 2006 election and everyone was aglow with the dems taking the majority in both house & senate? Now, remember the disappointment after about 100 days, give or take a hundred, that is was obvious that the new congress was not about to ‘change’ things and most disheartening was pelosi’s ‘impeachment off the table for w & dick’ as the reality sunk in even deeper and deeper.
Remember also, that just after the election(2006) how all these presidential wannabes started a 2 and 1/2 year run for the presidency and all the campaigning and debates that took place? Well, remember also that just up until the end of 2007 the wannabes were ‘sorted out’ by the press or msm, making the remaining wannabes the choice the parties wanted running. Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and a couple of others were bumped off the debates or conferences? Their voices wound up on the internet and other out of the main stream places so as not to influence the acceptable choices or the people’s washed out brains that there was a whole lot more concerned and knowledgeable people running for the presidency.  Some will appear on the ballots anyway but all of them were ignored because they made real sense.
There is your reason for there being no choice. My exact thoughts when it was pretty well known who was left in the running and who my favorites were cut out. Make no mistake, the msm may not have chosen who was to be the presidential contenders but they were damn sure told who to leave out and who to allow to continue on the msm, THE most visible medium for information in these Dictatorship of the United States.
Made me mad because of all the pandering and groveling for ‘votes’ I have been forced to accept that if the race is close towards the end of the election day, I will be forced to cast my vote to hopefully keep someone(s) from becoming president and vp. If it isn’t close I will vote for someone other than a dem or repub and that especially goes for the senate and house seats up for election, probably more important than the presidency.
Now, is it a little more clear how there are NO choices? This keeps the nominees in the acceptable category of ‘there is not a damn bit of difference in the choices for president’. At most, the least worse. And until this is corrected, expect to be disappointed with in a hundred days of the transfer of power, IF that even happens.

a big mistake everyone here is making is this: our lawmakers are lawbreakers. They totally ignore oaths of office including Congress both Fed, & State: you talk about getting laws passed: folks: in Oregon st legislatures Sal Esquaval; Alan Bates, & Peter Buckley town hall meeting 1/28 & 1/29 08; stated all illegals having drivers licenses (given to them illegally by elected officials) will keep them; any new coming here will be given to them; July 08 Oregon law stated citizens need to show certified birth certs to get drivers licenses. WHAT GOOD does it do to “pass a law” when it is only for SHOW? or to HARM the citizens? do you UNDERSTAND our nation brought top Nazi’s over here & are going to “pass a law” for US to be NUMBERED? IT IS called Fed Id #s;

He had a brief, shining moment to prove he could lead, to capitalize on a popular revolt that cut across the political spectrum.
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That’s Chris Hedges….Like he would then have been an Obama supporter?  Yeah, Right!

The funny thing is that under this absurd rant and rave there is one thing:

Kucinich is probably right—guaranteeing the mortgages themselves would have been a far more effective way to spend $700 billion.  Since the mortgages themselves were the foundation of the house of cards, ensuring THEY were safe would not only save the banks and investment houses, it would save the families in their homes. Which is a lot more bang for the buck—all 700 billion of them.

Yet, once again DK couldn’t convince enough people to stick with him to be effective (which is always my criticism of DK—he doesn’t know how to get legislation passed.)  But I’ll bet he’d make a heluva lot better SecTreas than Paulsen.

AS to the Dems and Gramm-Leach, the story goes that Weill of Citigroup called Clinton personally and told him to hurry the bill through.  Weill supposedly even has the pen that Clinton used to sign the bill on his “Wall of Me”.

As the election nears, if you have not seen the Letterman on Bush promises, you will find it a refreshing review. It remains to be seen if Obama would be in the same boat, I know McCain would be, only it pinning him down on a real issues is almost impossible, for he has not taken a stand on anything.

check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8_u1FLu30

What this article eloquently articulates and the manner in which Paulson’s plan was railed through congress — against an overwhelming tide of popular sentiment — both serve to illustrate par excellence is the degree to which the two-party system has utterly corrupted Representative Democracy. And the corrosive, if not destructive, implications for the integrity of our economy and free-market capitalism; the decay of the American dream, the apogee of American influence and the dimming of a great light unto the world.

The prime consequence of the two-party system is manifest in the endemic culture of corruption currently plaguing our capitol; creating an environment whereby moneyed-interests can easily own both sides of the aisle and extend a prohibition against alternate voices and view points, including the popular one.

The rectification of this glum circumstance lies in breaking the monopoly the two-party system has on the legislative and executive branch.  Therefore, if you live in an essentially settled red state or blue state, please consider casting a vote for a third party candidate rather than submitting a meaningless endorsement of a major party candidate.

For instance, in the state I live in, a vote for Obama is essentially meaningless. McCain is certain to carry the state and Obama is not even campaigning here. A vote for Nader has significance with respect to the recognition of third parties and their eligibility for federal funding during the next election cycle.  The threshold required to achieve eligibility for federal funding is 5% of the popular vote, I believe.

Until we radically alter the current environment dominated by the two-party system, ideological gridlock will persist.  Only when an environment that compels politicians to build consensus is established will our votes and popular constituent concerns again assume a mantle of vitality within the political sphere.

Wasn’t it Einstein who said, “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity”?  Are we to believe that we can continue in the present environment and expect anything other than continued exploitation by special interests and a succession of increasingly desperate crisis?

Looks like Chris Hedges didn’t get the memo of the Democratic party’s #1 talking point-

Any criticism of Obama=supporting McCain.

I’d be willing to bet any Democrat out there that if Obama wins, four years from now the US will-

1.Still have troops occupying Iraq (it might be less troops, but we’ll still have a sizable presence to keep our Iraqi puppets in power).

2.More US troops and an escalation to the war in Afghanistan. No questioning of the absurd “war on terror”. After all Afghanistan is the “real front line in the war on terror”, right?

3.No significant health care reform (in fact single payer will never even be on the table).

4. The US drug war will continue without any discussion.

5. US “defense” spending will be higher than any previous year, including the Bush years.

6. Our policy towards Israel will continue without a hitch (after all Obama and Biden love Israel too!) and they will receive more money to build their walls and bully their neighbors.

7. The same neo liberal economic policy’s that just gave us this fucked up Wall street bailout.

Now that’s some change I can believe in…...

But of course many will believe that by stating the above I’m secretly trying to get McCain elected at worst and at best a childish idealist.

Of course that’s even assuming Obama can even win the election. Democratic pragmatism has worked so well in the last 2 elections right?

All of you will get what you deserve either way-another Democratic defeat or a kinder gentler American Empire.

there was no need to go into Iraq at all; Saddam had offered to leave thru Swiss agency; the whole reason for the USA to go into Iraq was to establish another greedy enslavement of people: to harm the people & planet for THEIR own greed; same is going on in Mexico: Clinton went down after Bush Sr failed to bribe the Pres of THAT country: and Corps followed taking away their land & their water rights against the constitution; they are busy in Australia & here forcing farmers to put chips in cattle, sheep, etc and “failing” to reimburse them; they want mega farms & cloned animals; refusing orgainic & wanting chemicals they have given the water rights of the USA to the mega company who made Agent Orange; and because the people raised such a fuss over agent orange being used to clear wheat fields: they made genetic seeds complete with agent orange inside to HARM the people: *****to STAND UP to CANCER: you MUST REMOVE THE PROBLEMS causing it; and THAT is the chemicals which our Gov is bought & paid for by: remember when Bush went to Japan? the GREEN conference there? WHAT DID HE SAY? “we will let the businesses decide”; there it is; it is NOT a democracy at all; all political parties in the USA are in total agreement: whatever the Corps & Businesses want they get & the FDA is a SHELL company to DECEIVE the people into BELIEVING that the things are “safe”; they are to HARM YOU for the sister company the PHARMA: folks, there are all kinds of books written to back up everything I am saying. The infant death & toxins in formala & baby’s food is NOT from China! It is RED HERRINGS to get our voices MADE to be silenced! IT IS HERE IN THE USA! Why do you THINK S Koreans are STILL picketing cuz they do NOT want our BEEF imported? Remember the “downed” cows? THAT is what you are putting on YOUR table for YOUR family: along with other FULL of chemicals to HARM YOU to bring $ to THEM. EVERYTHING in the USA is DECEPTION, DECEIT, & LIES;

There is a major fact that is mistated here. After following the link for “The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999” It says that Gramm and Leach, 2 republicans intorduced it, in a republican majority house. That statement that Democrats introduced it unfortunately made me disregard everything stated in this article, except how cool Kucinich is. I am furious write now with that libel BS.

My idea for tax revolt sounds better all the time. I remember how I was assailed as a kook for it months ago.

The Gov of the USA has ALWAYS worked on the side of Corps & wealthy: to the peril of the people & the planet. They have actively & aggressively been waging warfare on their own citizens for quite some time now & have NEVER treated them well. Claiming “we are the free” when every other nation SEES us as slaves to Corps: WHY then STOP & take a deep breath & consider: WHY are they trying so hard for “world dominion”? Bribing the heads of countries of corrupt & polluted folks who are as greedy & corrupt as them OR waging “war” for whatever excuse they THINK they can “pass” onto the people of this country as a “good excuse” for? they replace with DICTATORSHIPS who are cruel to the people REPEATEDLY folks; do NOT listen to what THEY say to you; go to the HISTORY BOOKS: cuz they have been busy getting original internet archives & CHANGING THEM; they are busy “amending” changing, adding, & deleting laws, to EXCUSE what they do. They deliberately set this up; they keep saying “don’t look back”********100 years ago the Model T (just had it’s birthday) created to last 100 years: and ran on grain alcohol, NO pollution AT ALL: and got 26 MPG. #1 cause of global warming which they have known was car emmissions & have REPEATEDLY refused alternative greener fuels: since 1950’