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Posted on Jan 4, 2011
AP / Gerald Herbert

By Juan Cole

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., repeated on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday his hope that the United States can maintain at least two permanent air bases in Afghanistan. He was pushing back against Vice President Joe Biden’s pledge that the U.S. would be out of Afghanistan by 2014 “come hell or high water.” Graham has been wrong about almost everything in the Middle East for a decade and a half, so this harebrained proposal is hardly surprising. But it signals the harder line likely to be pursued by Republicans now that they have taken back the House of Representatives and have much strengthened their position in the Senate.

While pundit Bill Kristol has been tagged as perpetually wrong about everything for his various incorrect pronouncements about Iraq, Graham has largely gotten a pass for saying all the same things, from a greater position of power. Graham was among the earliest to be fooled by the ideologues around George W. Bush into thinking that the ramshackle Saddam Hussein regime posed a threat to the United States. Just after the “Axis of Evil” State of the Union address in 2002, Graham told Chris Matthews of Bush, “I think he was very direct about what the nation faces, about Iraq being a possible target sooner, rather than later.” He virtually salivated at the prospect of a war: “I think the danger to this country from Saddam Hussein is great. The president was amazingly direct about people who procure weapons of mass destruction.”

A little over a year later on Tim Russert’s “Meet the Press,” Graham gloated at the imminent outbreak of war, accusing Saddam Hussein of lying when he said he no longer had chemical weapons stockpiles. He accused the dictator of supporting the Shiite Hezbollah in Lebanon and of hosting al-Qaida. He denounced then German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder as a “chancellor of appeasement” for not jumping on the war bandwagon. He pooh-poohed the notion that Iraq’s factious ethnic and sectarian groups would war with one another once the Baath government was overthrown: “This arrogance that we possess in the West, that there is multifactions, there’s ethnic and religious differences in Iraq and they can’t handle it, is the height of arrogance.”

When former U.S. Rep. Tom Andrews warned that an economist had estimated the cost of an Iraq war at $1.3 trillion, a price tag that might push the country into economic crisis, Graham was dismissive.  Everything Graham said was a falsehood.

In August 2003, after the fall of Saddam’s regime and the outbreak of a guerrilla war, Graham pronounced confidently on Fox News, “The population centers in Baghdad, Basra and other main areas, you’ve got most people wanting us to succeed, with a handful of people that are trying to destabilize us.” The millions of sullen and angry Shiite Sadrists and of Sunni Arab nationalists were thus made to disappear into a “handful.” 

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By September 2006, after guerrilla war had turned to civil war and as many as 3,000 civilians were being killed a month, Graham admitted, “I know Iraq is a mess and we have screwed up seven ways from Sunday,” though he continued to insist, bizarrely, that “the fundamental idea behind Iraq is still correct.” Despite his admission of failures, Graham never apologized to the Iraqi people for the hundreds of thousands killed, the 4 million displaced, the ruined lives and livelihoods he had helped inflict on them. Nor does he seem in the slightest stricken with conscience over the tens of thousands of U.S.  casualties incurred for the sake of stopping “weapons of mass destruction” that did not exist.

When the Iraqi Parliament forced the Bush administration to agree to a timetable for leaving the country by the end of 2011, Graham still wanted to overrule the sovereign voice of the Iraqi people by deferring to American military commanders, saying of President Obama “... I am hopeful by picking Secretary Gates that he will listen to him, Petraeus and Odierno as to how we get out of Iraq. We’ve gotten an agreement that says 2011. There’s a likelihood where we negotiate to have some footprint past 2011.” Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has insisted that there will be no such negotiation, and that U.S. troops will be out by the end of this year.

American bases in Afghanistan are constant objects of attack by Pashtun fundamentalists opposed to what they see as the foreign military occupation of their country. Just last month, six U.S. troops died in a single assault near Kandahar. There is no prospect that those Pashtuns opposed to foreign troops will change their minds about this issue by 2014. In fact, the trend lines are altogether the other way. A recent poll sponsored by ABC, the BBC and other news organizations found that Afghan esteem for the United States and its military has plummeted since 2005.

Graham makes glib comparisons of Iraq and Afghanistan to South Korea, where the U.S. still has military bases decades after the Korean War ended. But as usual with hawks’ misuse of history, the situation is simply not the same. During the Cold War, acceptance of U.S. bases was eased in many countries by the perceived threat of the Soviet Union and international communism. In contrast, the Shiite government of Iraq is not afraid of any of its neighbors, with the possible exception of close U.S. ally Saudi Arabia, from which U.S. bases would be unlikely to offer protection. Likewise, the government of Hamid Karzai does not fear invasion by Iran or Uzbekistan or China, the countries with which the U.S. has problems. Karzai most fears Pakistan’s backing for Pashtun insurgents, and since the U.S. is closely allied with Islamabad, it can hardly offer itself as a savior in this regard.

Moreover, the Korean War was largely a conventional military conflict, not a set of local tribal and fundamentalist struggles such as have become common in the 21st century and which produce decades-long staccato violence (consider Lebanon, Somalia, Afghanistan, and now likely Iraq). Keeping U.S. air bases in Afghanistan, in the absence of a large American troop presence, would be like building Las Vegas-style casinos in downtown Mogadishu, Somalia. Graham is wrong yet again.


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By LocalHero, January 30, 2011 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

The entire upper-echelon of the military are homosexuals or have had homosexual encounters that were, in one way or another, recorded. That is how they maintain their twisted code. If you doubt this, I suggest you Google “Kay Griggs.”

I no longer even entertain the wholly-evil notion of “supporting the troops” and now only see them as brainwashed, very dangerous, arrested adolescents. My dad, who served during WWII (and lived to regret it), called soldiering “playing baby.”

I now respond to “supporting the troops” comments with the phrase, “I support the troops in the only sane way possible: by getting them the hell out of every country they currently occupy - including our own!”

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By bodhidharma, January 7, 2011 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment

WHEN are we going to give up on the idea of an American Empire?  IF YOU LOOK AT HISTORY, EMPIRES ALWAYS COME TO A BAD end.  We are a society based on fear, hatred, and selfish greed.  Of course,, the real empire now is made of multinational corporations, and the US government is just a tool they own, ran by men who have sold their manhood and our future for their security.

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By garth, January 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

Military Men and tteir Making

Lindsey Graham is the Senator of South Carolina (SC).  SC is the home of the largest number of retired military personnel in the country. 

He was a Judge Advocate in the Air Force.

Here are two of my experiences with Air Force and Navy personnel.  They seem to be of the same caliber.

I was a freshman in college and across the hall in my dormitory was one, James.  He was a gung ho AFROTC.  This was at the beginning of the War in Vietnam. 

Rumor had it that he’d spend time strutting around his dorm room with a dime stuck between his buttocks.

Anyway, one Saturday night I was studying for an exam and he came into my room and wanted to talk about ‘loneliness’ as he sat down on the edge of my bed.

I blew my top and threw him out, bodily.

I saw him briefly after I graduated in a parking lot outside the Student Union.  He was in uniform and driving a government car.  I tried to be polite.

He later became a Lt. Colonel. 

That is the caliber of men that rise to the top in our military.  He was, of course, at the tail end of the days of Bombs Away with Curt LeMay.

Years later I was with a girlfriend at a club on Bass Point in Nahant, MA.  The girl, Linda, and I were the only civilians in the joint among a group of young Naval junior officers.

One of them asked Linda to dance.  She looked at me and I nodded my head and went to sit down.  She came running over and told me that he tried to feel her up, that’s grab her titties.

I went over to his table, looked at him and then I sized up the odds and laughed in his face. His commanding officer was sitting at the next table in all his pomp and circumstance nursing some drink with a pink umbrella.

I tried to console and apologize the girl and felt bad that I had not defended her honor, but that’s where I discovered disgression. We just got the hell out of there.

At another time and another place, I could’ve placed a few calls to make it an interesting evening for those submarine suck-ups. 

Now, our military strategies are expanding.  The military kicks down doors in Afghanistan and they shoot people dead.  Israel does that to Palestininians. 

And here’s the Framingham Police in the Framingham, MA in the US of A.  They have adopted the same tactic. 

They just shot and killed a 68-year old black man in his home while he slept.

They’re official statement was that it’s better that dying from lung cancer.

But the important thing is the question brought up by the tactic. 

Who’s safe?

Are you white?  Does that matter?

Are you Arab?  That seems to matter.

Are you carrying?  That might give your going out some glory.

But who am I to say.  Linda died about 20 years ago.

He

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By zonadude, January 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment

There is a word that defines war and the men that support, and wage its terror. Simply, INSANE. Grow up boys. Get a better hobby, like feeding the poor, healing the sick, and housing the millions of souls in need of shelter. Many of these engaged in your insanity and now twist in the wind.

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By sophrosyne, January 6, 2011 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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Graham is a loyal servant of mun itions dealers and Israel.  You can always predict what he will do and say.  Just follow the usual money.

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By Lou, January 6, 2011 at 5:36 am Link to this comment
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Gay Graham can’t leave behind those gay dancing boys we all read about…

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By Retired Sarge, January 6, 2011 at 2:38 am Link to this comment
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What are they now in So. Carolina in education?  46 or 47th ranked??  They used to be DEAD LAST!  I was in the same Reserve Wing Graham was in for over 10 years..to hear the “good ole boys” talk about him you’d have thought he was the 13th Apostle and Bush was his and our Savior.  I had all I could do to keep from throwing up.  Thank God I’m retired now and don’t have to listen to any more of their redneck B—-S—T!!!

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By purplewolf, January 6, 2011 at 1:11 am Link to this comment

bogi666: Graham is suspected? As one of my co-workers who is gay would say about Lindsey: FLAMING!

Lindsey reminds me of those old southern gentlemen portrayed in the movies, snorting snuff and then using their frilly handkerchiefs to blot their noses. In Lindsey’s case he must be snorting coke instead. And doesn’t his nose look a little red?

And I thought Lindsey was a girls name or did his parents want a girl.

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By Inherit The Wind, January 5, 2011 at 11:59 pm Link to this comment

Graham used to be a Conservative with a brain, a brain that frequently led him to take startling stances his fellow Cons didn’t understand.

But I think the guy’s suffering from rapidly advancing Alzheimer’s or some other organically induced dementia.

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By George T, January 5, 2011 at 10:29 pm Link to this comment

I disagree with Graham on most things, but on one thing, he has my respect.  When Maj General Taguba testified before the Senate armed forces committee, and Cambone was sent by Rumsfeld to try to nullify Taguba’s testimony, Senator Kyl was buying Cambone all the way—and Graham, to his credit, was not.  My recollections are hazy, but my impression is that both Warner and Graham called Cambone, in effect, a prevaricator if not a liar, and supported Taguba, while Kyl bent over backwards, and dropped his——, to let Cambone have his way. 

From that moment, I thought:  Hey, even among these guys there are some divisions.

Now, maybe that’s as far as it goes. 

(Though to tell the truth, when two different health aides from the former Soviet Union decided to have kids here—not even married—and then shipped them back to be raised back home, I thought:  “Weird”.)

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By zekeabrams, January 5, 2011 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

Why is Graham still in office?

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By frecklefever, January 5, 2011 at 4:26 pm Link to this comment

LINDSEY REALLY IS CERTIFIABLE…IS BEHAVIOR IS SO UNHINGED IT BORDERS ON
IRRATIONAL…BUT THE SENATE HAS BECOME SO COMICAL HIS ANTICS ARE ACCEPTABLE..

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By garth, January 5, 2011 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment

By Ibn Adolf, January 5 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment (Unregistered commenter)

“Let there be no mistake: Islam is on the war path. Powerful Islamic élites are determined eventually to dominate the West. We are subject to constant softening-up maneuvers, we are expected to kowtow to Shariah law and ban any criticism of “monotheisms”, (i.e., of Islam), etc.”

That’s US-Isreali-City of London bull shit.

And as the 70s tv character Beretta used to say, “You can take that to the bank.”

On NECN,Comcast’s New Engalnd Cable News, I learned that we, the United States of America, are now fighting for the the Afghan women. 

Well glory!  No more democracies.  No more girls with their noses cut off.  It’s women.

I see on tv the National Guard beefaloes coming home and their home spun beefy replacemenst going forth to take their places.  What happened to the ‘lean, mean, voluntary, fighting machine?

Hey, a flag-draped casket here, a picture of some 20 year-old who’ll never see Christmas again, a banner hanging over a highway as a painful reminder to the mourners only, it’s all good.  Right?

Lindsey’s gotta get another name. 

I used to date a honeysuckle babe from Kentucky named Lindsey.  I’d hate to roll over in the sack and see Lindsey ‘the Cracker’ Graham there.

But as it might turn out, he might be there. 

He’s that creepy.

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By garth, January 5, 2011 at 3:10 pm Link to this comment

I know the effeminate nature of some of these ‘Southern Gentlemen’ is not to be confused with homosexuality, and I know that Lindsey Graham (Republican Senator from South Carolina ) is a former Judge Advocate General in the U.S. Air Force, but too much of his bullshit is too much.

The Navy just fired O.P. Honors, not for his videos, only because we, the public, found out out about them.  (Who stabbed O.P. Honors in the back?)

They reveal a sort of ‘character deficit,’ or a lack of character, that is pervasive in the US military.  These jokers belong on Youtube.  And as Jimmy Durante used to say in a whisp of hope to his watchers, “Good night Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.”

This reminds me of an encounter I had with a young Coast Guard officer in Washington, DC while I was contracted by the Department of Transportation.  (The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Transportation.) 

At lunch, he mentioned that he was against Clinton because of his weak support of the Vietnam MIAs because his brother was a Vietnam MIA. 

I asked him about his brother.  He said, “I don’t want to talk about it.”  He brought it up in the first place.

I wanted to take him out back and slap him silly.  But a job’s a job and this fool had many more miles to go before he slept, and I had cocktail hour to think about.

Getting back to S’mores:  L. Graham, the cracker, and Billy Kristol, and all the rest of them are not going to stop with a mere rebuttal or an unmasking.  They are suicidal.  Stop and think and watch.  Do you want to be part of this mayhem that they have in store?

Yet Graham gets face time on Sunday Morning tv.  Again and again.

He is not only wrong, he’s more than wrong.  I believe Juan Coles. Graham has been wrong all along.

How are we as news consumers being served?

We are the Appetizers.

The menu of the main course will become evident as the “Gawker for Illiois” faces his next two years.

Ever notice how Obama’s ears have enlarged in the past few months.  Sort of like a Pinocchio, except with this liar, it’s his ears that grow.


Watch, wait and pray.

And resrict, restrict, restrict your monthly payments to any acqisitor be it utility, health insurance, or anything.  That’s where they hope to get you in a bind.

You gotta pay or your child might go blind.

Tell ‘em to go fuck themselves now or it’ll never end.

We stand little chance as it is.

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By omop, January 5, 2011 at 2:32 pm Link to this comment

Mr Cole uses the word “bizarre” in reference to several statements Sen Graham
has made. Mr. Cole is deferential to the Senator.

As one of the trio most vocal voices (Lieberman, McCain, Graham) still
supporting the goals first promulgated by Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Wurmsers, in
their plan for Mr. Nethayahu’s “A Clean Break” plan wose main goal was to
support Israel’s predominance in the Middle East.

The goals of that foeign policy debacle has cost over $ 4 TRILLION dollars
according to Dr. Stiglitz. thousands of americans killed and crippled for life as
well as over a million dead Ieaqis.

At the present according to several news reports the US has close to 1000
military bases in over 80 countries. The economy of the US is in shambles close
to 30 million unemployed a Congress seemingly not interested in doing much to
repair the economy and the Senator wants the US to remain “forever” in
Afghanistan.  Can America susttain such expeditures in manpowe and costs while
more Americans lose their jobs and homes?

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By Ibn Adolf, January 5, 2011 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
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I heartily agree with Professor Juan Cole: Sen. Graham and the other pugnacious expansionist fronde are indeed mindless scum, imperialist zombies. Point granted.

However Professor Cole himself is guilty of equally problematical assertions excusing terrorists, proclaiming Islam to be blameless of any sin, claiming the West is guilty for any existing conflicts we may have with Moslems, etc. 

Western imperialist excesses, however worthy of condemnation and opposition,  constitute no justification whatever for the constant pressure exerted by Islamists and by their accomplices on the left in the West to knuckle under, submit to incessant Islamic whims and demands, go on guilt trips for the most trivial misdeeds, etc.

Just because the US has been exploiting the hell out of Mexico for over two centuries does NOT imply we have to give a rat’s ass about their Virgin of Guadalupe.

Let there be no mistake: Islam is on the war path. Powerful Islamic élites are determined eventually to dominate the West. We are subject to constant softening-up maneuvers, we are expected to kowtow to Shariah law and ban any criticism of “monotheisms”, (i.e., of Islam), etc.

Warranted opposition to US imperialism does not justify caving in to the reckless demands of an irrational superstitious cult with inherently violent proclivities.

In Islamic law, murder is not a crime, merely an infraction that can be settled with a fine. But in Islamic law, criticizing Islam’s Prophet, the bloodthirsty sadist Mohammed, is a crime punishable by death! 

Not a single concession can be made to this madness. Islam is a totally irrational and amoral system that deserves no respect whatsoever and is utterly incompatible with Western civilization, democracy, morality and sense of decency.

Juan Cole is a scholar of Islam, but not an objective one, rather one who acts as a an agent of Islamic imperialism. He is the vanguard of the fundamentalist fifth column that is busily undermining Western resistance to Mohammedan despotism in the US. His every word is designed to lull our justified fears. 

Mistrust that man and his acolytes. Their words are deadly poison.

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By berniem, January 5, 2011 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

Its obvious that our alleged “frugal” congress is hell-bent on the expansion of the empire at whatever cost to be paid, of course, by We The People ostensibly for our National Security when in reality it is exclusively for the likes of the Koch Bros. and their fellow plutocrats and oligarchs who own and operate the government and all of the pigs at the trough “representing” us! Yes, let’s eliminate corporate taxes and those pesky, “job killing” regulations so that the corporatocracy can privatize every penny of accrued wealth while social security and medicare, among other social programs in the crosshairs get axed to pay the freight! Not only have we lost the spine necessary to oppose illegal wars but are content to watch the ruination of this country as it pursues global hegemony!

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By M Henri Day, January 5, 2011 at 11:39 am Link to this comment

I must beg to differ, Professor Cole - Lindsey Olin Graham’s comparison between the US military bases in South Korea som 57 years after the Armistice Agreement ended significant military hostilities there and the ones he wishes to see permanently established in Afghanistan is indeed apt, rather than, as you state, «glib». Bases in South Korea near China’s Northeast, along with those on Japanese soil, have been and remain the major means by which the United States attempts to keep China under its thumb (why do you suppose all US governments since that time have rejected all attempts to persuade, cajole, or entice it into entering into negotiations for a Peace Treaty to replace the Armistice Agreement of 27 July 1953 ?), and «permanent» military bases in Afghanistan bordering on China’s Northwest would greatly augment the ability of the US to project its power in the region. The real question to pose Mr Graham is whether the United States, teetering ever closer to the brink of bankruptcy, can afford to continue pursuing its imperial dream and devote more than a million million (10^12) dollars annually to its bloated military, its network of over 800 foreign military bases, and its contnual wars of aggression abroad. I suspect that the answer to this query will in the end prove to be negative, but that Mr Graham will continue to personify the truth of Upton Beall Sinclair’s famous dictum : «(i)t is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it»....

Henri

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By Maani, January 5, 2011 at 11:28 am Link to this comment

Just another Senate clown who only needs the red rubber nose to complete the picture.  How do men like this get into office anyway?  And why do his constituents keep him there?  (And no, skimohawk, I am not “naive” either…LOL)

Peace.

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By Ibn Adolf, January 5, 2011 at 10:13 am Link to this comment
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I agree with Juan Cole: Sen. Graham and the rest are
mindless scum, imperialist zombies, granted.

However Juan Cole himself is guilty of equally
problematical assertions excusing terrorists,
proclaiming Islam to be blameless of any sin,
claiming the West is guilty for any existing
conflicts we may have with Moslems, etc. 

Western imperialist excesses constitute no
justification whatever for the constant pressure
exerted by Islamists and by their accomplices on the
left in the West to knuckle under, submit to
incessant Islamic whims and demands, go on guilt
trips for the most trivial misdeeds, etc.

Let there be no mistake: Islam is on the war path.
Powerful Islamic élites are determined to eventually
dominate the West. We are subject to constant
softening-up maneuvers, we are expected to kowtow to
Shariah law and ban any criticism of “monotheisms”,
(i.e., of Islam), etc.

Warranted opposition to US imperialism does not
justify caving in to the reckless demands of an
irrational superstitious cult with inherently violent
proclivities.

In Islamic law, murder is not a crime, merely an
infraction that can be settled with a fine. But in
Islamic law, criticizing Islam’s Prophet, the
bloodthirsty sadist Mohammed, is a crime punishable
by death! 

Not a single concession can be made to this madness.
Islam is a totally irrational system that deserves no
respect whatsoever and its totally incompatible with
Western civilization and morality. The slightest
concession to such lunacy leads to our collective
suicide.

Juan Cole is a scholar of Islam, but not an objective
one, rather one who acts as a an agent of Islamic
imperialism. He is the vanguard of the Islamist fifth
column that is busily undermining Western resistance
to Mohammedan despotism in the US. His every word is
designed to lull our justified fears. 

Mistrust that man and his acolytes. Their words are
deadly poison.

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By bogi666, January 5, 2011 at 9:43 am Link to this comment
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Graham is suspected of being queer,  closet queer. He replaced Strom Thurmond who raped a 15 year old black girl in 1925 and had his child. Strom kept it secret for 70 years until it finally was realized. Strom was a die hard racist, except when it came to rape anyway.It’s good that he knew where to draw the line, not being a racist rapist. As for Strom he did support the daughter, she never outed him. Strom never hesitated to advertise his racism. There are large Air Force, Naval, and Army installation in S.C., just to prevent the State from seceding again. As Einstein said about infinity, their are two things infinite, “human stupidity and the universe and I’m not certain about the universe”. Enter S.C.to infinity, the only infinite thing in the universe, human stupidity which has its own country, S.C.

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By Steve E, January 5, 2011 at 8:57 am Link to this comment

This man truly represents the manic warmongering that has infested our nation.
He has without a doubt drank much, if not most, of the imperialistic kool-aid
being handed out to anyone who wants a slug. I’m sure he is happy to see the
unemployment that has been caused by the vampire financial sector which leaves
many young people without any alternative other than to enlist in the armed
forces as fodder for ruling elite’s grand plan. Keep up the good work South
Carolina.

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By JOHNDICKERSON, January 5, 2011 at 1:41 am Link to this comment

FROM ‘THINK PROGRESS’, 01/04/10 -
...And finally: While debating the authenticity of Sen.
Lindsey Graham’s (R-SC) new tan, MSNBC host Joe
Scarborough wondered if the senator was attempting to
mimic pop star David Bowie’s space-traveling alter ego.
“Did you follow David Bowie through the Ziggy Stardust
years? He had more makeup than Bowie did,” Scarborough
said of Graham.  “I think the senator was just out in the
sun over the holidays,” replied co-host Willie Geist.
VIDEO (00:28) -
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/1101/scarborough_rib
s_graham_on_tan.html

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By samosamo, January 5, 2011 at 1:08 am Link to this comment

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Better to ask ‘who hired(elected) this creep? Hell,
his senatorship makes the people of s.c. sicker
than grahamie is. Or does old grahamie have the
biggest siphon on ‘the hill’ for his constituency
than another other state. Or do I remember this
past election as the one where the person who
actually won was tossed so’s old grahamie could
remain in control, thanks to the south carolina
department of voter fraud. Whatever the hell,
THANKS A SHIT S.C.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By Carl, January 4, 2011 at 11:01 pm Link to this comment

The insanity of this is amazing. We already have several permanent bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, that are equal to our bases in the USA. They have first class concrete buildings and even Burger Kings.

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By bogglesthemind, January 4, 2011 at 9:52 pm Link to this comment

skimohawk: “Is there maybe a link to a YouTube page where part of that
interview is posted?”

http://politicallyillustrated.com/index.php?/news_page/video/2131/

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By JOHNDICKERSON, January 4, 2011 at 8:49 pm Link to this comment

Y’all, why does Senator Lyndsey Graham (R-SC) always
look like “he” was rode hard and put up wet?

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By surfnow, January 4, 2011 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment

Typical conservative Republican chicken-hawk. Completely despicable and contemptible.

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By Queenie, January 4, 2011 at 7:21 pm Link to this comment

skimohawk,
I’ve seen crack heads who look better than this guy and with clearer thinking. Yes, he looks like he wears eye liner. I think it just residue from kissing Bush’s arse.

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By felicity, January 4, 2011 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

skimohawk:  Apparently you ‘missed’ “tragic hilarity.”

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By garth, January 4, 2011 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment

I find Juan Cole to be one of the most knowledgeable and reliable reporters on the issues of the middle- and far-east.

Read InformedComment.

Especially now, since Alan Dershowitz (accent on the second syllable) kiboshed his appointment to a professorship at Yale. Anyone who can raise the ire of that buffoon should gain anyone’s respect.

But I am here as a Troll, in the Scandanavian imp sense. 

All the press sycophants are asking one question, and one question only and then writing it down.  Then they move on to the next load of bullshit, without any follow-up whatsover.  Examples are not needed.  You can see for yourselves on Sunday Morning on any Propaganda Fest. 

Although, I must say that Candy Crowley and Ed Henry are at least asking follow-up questions and pursuing a point.  Others are not.

Several years ago, I found myself doing presentations for high tech companies.  I was given some preparatory information and then pushed in front of a group of technophiles.

I told them up front what I knew and added that that was all I knew, and I was going to tell them everything I knew.  If they didn’t hear it, I didn’t know it.

Yet, still there were questions.

When I tell my wife something, she always asks more questions till I have to blurt out, “I don’t know any more.”

My father was loosely connected with the mob in Revere and Boston and I would go with him to some off hours ‘card games’ at some Sports Clubs or pizza joints.  I would always ask hime, “Who that guy? or “What’s that for?

He always say, “You ask too many questions.”

And that seems to be the understanding between the news gatherers and the news makers of today.  Reporters don’t ask any serious questions and no follow-ups and everything will be hunky-dory.

Don’t believe me?  Watch Washington Journal at 7:00 Am on C-SPAN any day of the week.

The government is just like organized crime in some pizza parlor or some sleazy sports bar, only those bastards are evil.

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By skimohawk, January 4, 2011 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

felicity, are you just naive?
it’s a no-brainer: the “War on Drugs”, unlike the “War on Terror”, doesn’t require endless supplies of remote-controlled missiles, night-vision goggles, or incendiary munitions. do the math. follow the money: who’s the big defense contractor in Graham’s district?

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By TAO Walker, January 4, 2011 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

Why spoil a perfect record this late in the END GAME….especially when Sen. Graham shares it with so much of the illustrious “Company” mentioned here by Juan Cole?

HokaHey!

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By felicity, January 4, 2011 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

Has anyone noticed that the West(primarily the US) has
no compunction about infiltrating, spreading, without
first asking, its culture, values, politics and even
religion to other countries, yet would have a shit-fit
should the ‘courtesy’ be reciprocated?

We’ve declared ‘war’ on an unknown enemy and an
abstract noun.  Given this tragic hilarity, we should
be establishing thousands of bases to add to the
hundreds we already have.  (In the mean time, one in
four American children lives in poverty.)

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By skimohawk, January 4, 2011 at 6:27 pm Link to this comment

random and perhaps irrelevant musings:

I find the linkage between Kristol and Graham kind of amusing, in a twisted way: who is the “wronger” of the two?

Am I the only one who noticed Graham’s appearance Sunday morning on “Meet the Press”? I watched the interview twice, and I swear I think there’s something wrong with the guy.
Maybe it’s just my own skewed perception ( or failing eyesight ), but he looked like he had eye makeup on. Is he sick? His face was all puffed up, like he’d been out all weekend on a bender or was pumped up with Prednisone.
Maybe there’s something physiologically wrong with the guy and whatever it is has gotten to his brain.

Is there maybe a link to a YouTube page where part of that interview is posted?

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By purplewolf, January 4, 2011 at 6:23 pm Link to this comment

Let this pansy-ass go and enlist and go over to Afghanistan and be a real part of this insanity he so heartedly endorses. Better yet, let him pay our his own money for all of the costs of building, maintaining and paying the wages for all of those left to run these bases.And he wants to do this all the while talking of paying for it on the backs of the elderly and disabled-cutting social security.

There should be laws that those who want and vote for these endless wars(mostly republicans, politicians as well as those who voted republican)must serve active fighting time and not is some safe zone, pay for all the cost of the wars and all expenses incurred because of their madness. That they must pay for all the medical cost of the surviving soldiers and without all the hardships they put onto the wounded soldiers they do today. You served, got injured in the wars for oil for the rich,they pay all cost for the medical and future housing and medicine and NO loopholes for getting out of paying for the damage the wars caused because the rich get off and richer from all this madness.

Lindsey needs to be put out to pasture, along with those of his mindset.

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By LT, January 4, 2011 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment
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Nobody mentioned all the defense contracts that go to the Senator’s state of South Carolina?

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