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WikiLeaks vs. Stratfor: Pursue the Truth, Not Its Messenger

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Posted on Mar 1, 2012
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By Amy Goodman

WikiLeaks, the whistle-blower website, has again published a massive trove of documents, this time from a private intelligence firm known as Stratfor. The source of the leak was the hacker group “Anonymous,” which took credit for obtaining more than 5 million emails from Stratfor’s servers. Anonymous obtained the material on Dec. 24, 2011, and provided it to WikiLeaks, which in turn partnered with 25 media organizations globally to analyze the emails and publish them.

Among the emails was a short one-liner that suggested the U.S. government has produced, through a secret grand jury, a sealed indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. In addition to painting a picture of Stratfor as a runaway, rogue private intelligence firm with close ties to government-intelligence agencies serving both corporate and U.S. military clients, the emails support the growing awareness that the Obama administration, far from diverging from the secrecy of the Bush/Cheney era, is obsessed with secrecy, and is aggressively opposed to transparency.

I traveled to London last Independence Day weekend to interview Assange. When I asked him about the grand-jury investigation, he responded: “There is no judge, there is no defense counsel, and there are four prosecutors. So, that is why people that are familiar with grand-jury inquiries in the United States say that a grand jury would not only indict a ham sandwich, it would indict the ham and the sandwich.”

As I left London, The Guardian newspaper exposed more of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. phone-hacking scandal, which prompted the closing of his tabloid newspaper, the largest circulation Sunday newspaper in the U.K., News of the World. The coincidence is relevant, as News of the World reported anything but what its title claimed, focusing instead on salacious details of the private lives of celebrities, sensational crimes, and photos of scantily clad women. For this and his other endeavors, Murdoch amassed a reported personal fortune of $7.6 billion.

Meanwhile, Assange—who, like Murdoch, was born in Australia (Murdoch abandoned his nationality for U.S. citizenship in order to purchase more U.S. broadcast licenses)—had engaged in one of largest and most courageous acts of publishing in history by founding wikileaks.org, which allows people to safely and securely deliver documents using the Internet in ways that make it almost impossible to trace. He and his colleagues at WikiLeaks had published millions of leaked documents, most notably about the U.S. wars and occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and thousands of U.S. diplomatic cables, true “news of the world.” The Sydney Peace Foundation awarded Assange a gold medal for “exceptional courage and initiative in pursuit of human rights.” In contrast, the U.S. government targeted him, possibly under the Espionage Act. Murdoch is hailed as a pioneering newsman, while pundits on Murdoch-owned cable-television outlets openly call for Assange’s murder.

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The Stratfor emails will be released over time, along with context provided by WikiLeaks’ media partners. Already revealed by the documents are the close, and potentially illegal, connections between Stratfor employees and government-intelligence and law-enforcement officials. Rolling Stone magazine reports that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was monitoring Occupy Wall Street protests nationally, and the Texas Department of Public Safety has an undercover agent at Occupy Austin who was disclosing information to contacts at Stratfor. Stratfor also is hired by multinational corporations to glean “intelligence” about critics. Among companies using Stratfor were Dow Chemical, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and Coca-Cola.

Fred Burton, Stratfor’s vice president of intelligence, and a former head of counterintelligence at the U.S. State Department’s diplomatic corps, wrote in an email, “Not for Pub—We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect.” Burton and others at Stratfor showed intense interest in WikiLeaks starting in 2010, showing intense dislike for Assange personally. Burton wrote: “Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever.” Another Stratfor employee wanted Assange waterboarded.

Michael Ratner, legal adviser to Assange and WikiLeaks, told me, “The Obama administration has gone after six people under the Espionage Act. That’s more cases than happened since the Espionage Act was actually begun in 1917. ... What this is about is the United States wanting to suppress the truth.”

1917 is also the year when U.S. Sen. Hiram Johnson famously said, “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The White House is holding a gala dinner this week, honoring Iraq War veterans. Bradley Manning is an Iraq War vet who won’t be there. He is being court-martialed, facing life in prison or possibly death, for allegedly releasing thousands of military and diplomatic documents to WikiLeaks revealing the casualties of war. President Barack Obama would better serve the country by also honoring Assange and Manning.

We should pursue the truth, not its messengers.


Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.

Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!,” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on more than 1,000 stations in North America. She is the author of “Breaking the Sound Barrier,” recently released in paperback and now a New York Times best-seller.

© 2012 Amy Goodman

Distributed by King Features Syndicate


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By moonraven, March 4, 2012 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

The usual suspects have been busy in Syria:

http://www.aporrea.org/internacionales/n200105.html

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By drbhelthi, March 4, 2012 at 12:38 am Link to this comment

“But, more importantly, for those of you who don’t know of the Inslaw history and the PROMIS software issue- - “  laser

A solid observation with informative, accurate information.
My computer began to experience a form of PROMIS in November.  Hello, Tel Aviv and similar locations.

The info you suggest is briefly summarized by a world-famous journalist at the following link,  http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8252175042329977626#

A comprehensive picture of criminality is presented, when the jornalist´s info is combined with Mr. Fish´s summary cartoon of the GHWBushSr dynasty_
http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/mr-fish-boo-hoo/

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By laser, March 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment

What amazes me, is the acceptance of one type of evil existing - and the disregard for the fact that greater evils’ are possible.

Evidently many here have no considered the fact that JA may be a “Red Herring” (though I would hope not - it is possible that a “tool” got out of control and that is why Rove is on the case).

But, more importantly, for those of you who don’t know of the Inslaw history and the PROMIS software issue

PROMIS = Prosecutorial Manage Information Software.

and that to the fact that

Skull & Bones = Bush who were “Partners” with the Bin Laden Group (who bailed out the young Bush’ Harken Energy)

and - only through the thorough research of those facts can one truly see a bigger picture.

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By PatrickHenry, March 3, 2012 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

There is a legal precedent in law called ‘The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree’ which has root in biblical teaching and the basic tenet of karma niyama.

http://bible.cc/matthew/7-17.htm

9/11 in my view is the poisonous tree and nothing good has come from it except lies, treachery and deceit.

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By DBM, March 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm Link to this comment

Imax,

“I disagreed with Breitbart on nearly everything.  Nonetheless I am deeply saddened for his children and family.  I’ll lament the loss of a passionate and worthy ideological adversary. “

I strongly suspect that if you thought there was anything worthy about his form of adversarial lying then you must be in agreement an things at a deeper level!

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By D.R. Zing, March 3, 2012 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

Hi Amy,

I see a minor grammatical mistake in this article
manifesting itself as a Freudian slip. 

Before I go there, let me say I enjoy this article
and I agree with the point. I also respect you and
your work. Thank you for all you do.

My criticism is more directly at the broader school
of journalism thought and the fact that you—or the
editor who made the change—no doubt have been brow
beaten into thinking the same way without realizing
it.

OK. Here’s a simple grammar rule. When you’re listing
a series of things, you put the most important one
last to stress it’s importance. Now let’s look at a
quote from your article. 

You note News of the World offered very little actual
news of the world, “focusing instead on salacious
details of the private lives of celebrities,
sensational crimes, and photos of scantily clad
women.” 

You gave ultimate importance to the least important
factor.  A more accurate representation would be:
“focusing instead on photos of scantily clad women,
on sensational crimes, and on salacious details of the
private lives of celebrities.” 

Why is this important?  Because as the news media
happily destroys the private lives of celebrities the
government and private security firms are
systematically stripping away the legal precedents
for protecting the privacy of non-celebrities, all of
of us, in other words, are losing our privacy. And
the news media is helping the process right along
with it’s celebrity foibles obsessions. 

The news media is used as a bitter distraction.  When
someone like Tiger Woods does something admittedly
questionable, but not criminal, the news media turns
into Puritan witch hunters while converting
newspapers, television, the Web, and social media
into a public pillory, where the stars are
symbolically shackled and the blind mouths of the
public can pelt them with verbal fusillades of rotten
tomatoes and garbage. 

The biggest mistake of the news media has been making
the news Rated G.  The news is implicitly adult,
because in our war torn world, the news frequently
involves people being brutalized and blown to bits. 

But now we’re stuck with G-rated news. And
journalists, in keeping with censoring for children
and catering to the modern Puritans, must destroy the
character of any public person who does not have the
sexual mores of a nineteenth century nun. 

The fact is, nudity in a newspaper should not be a
problem. In a world where the news was for adults,
where the news media tried to depict reality instead
of creating a fantasy world, we would see nude bodies
all the time in the news.  The nude body is not implicitly
obscene or vulgar.  And we need to see
them, particularly when they have no clothes because
a bomb has burned away the clothes, as we did in the
lost journalism era of the Vietnam War. We need to
see the results of war as reality—not in movies
where gunshot wounds are frequently made to appear
as insignificant mosquito bites. 

The censorship of the news allows Americans to live in
a bubble where they do not see the havoc their tax
dollars wreak in war. The news is not suitable for
children. It shouldn’t be. It cannot be. It isn’t. To
make it so, results in news that is feckless hand
wringing and sanctimonious finger wagging. 

Thankfully, that’s not what you’re doing here on
Truthdig and it’s not what Truthdig is all about, but
the more journalists and writers we have pointing out
the vindictive Puritanism of the modern news, the
better. 

All the best.

D.R. Zing

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By Maani, March 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment

Although it was not my intent to turn this thread into a discussion of 9/11, I suppose a good argument can be made that EVERYTHING that has occurred over the past decade is related to 9/11, since, whether one believes it was 19 Muslims or that individuals and/or agencies of the U.S. gov’t were either incompetent or were actively involved in its planning and execution, 9/11 WAS “used” to create two wars (Afghanistan, Iraq), justify rendition and torture (including Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo), eviscerate the Constitution (including freedoms, civil rights and civil liberties), and many other things.  It can even be argued that Bradley Manning is a victim of 9/11, since WikiLeaks was founded at least partially in response to how 9/11 was “used” to justify so many atrocities.

In fact, it could even be argued that the so-called “Great Recession” (assuming IT was not DELIBERATELY created…) was at least partially a result of 9/11, since we oured not only the surplus left by Clinton into those wars, but also hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, of dollars that might otherwise have remained here and prevented the economic meltdown.

Moon mentions the “koolaid addicts” who do not or cannot accept all this, or even see the connections.  Personally, I just feel sad that so many people were and are blinded by patriotic nationalism that they are unable to wrap their minds around the enormity of what actually occurred on 9/11.

Peace.  (someday…)

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By moonraven, March 3, 2012 at 11:09 am Link to this comment

As for the Mossad folks on that flight, I can’t tell you their names.  But they left very well-paid for the little help they gave their CIA buddies in staging 9/11.

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By moonraven, March 3, 2012 at 11:07 am Link to this comment

Pat:

Shillbilly stuck to the wall llike slightly overcooked spaghetti.  I think it is definitely here to stay—and v ersatile, too, as it can be applied to more than 50% of the folks who post here.

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By moonraven, March 3, 2012 at 11:04 am Link to this comment

drb:  The Dec. 19, 2001 date is the one I was referring to.

And the CIA not only documented his death, but made a final interview with him when he was in hospital in Dubai shortly before his death. 

This information has been out there for many years, but the koolaid addicts, including the relentless junkies on this site, just don’t want to admit to it because it doesn’t jibe with their patriotic pathology.

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By PatrickHenry, March 3, 2012 at 8:47 am Link to this comment

Good Dr.

Lets not forget the other flight which took off on 9/11.

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/news/911-related/13473-full-el-al-flight-took-off-on-911-from-jfk-to-tel-aviv.html

Sure would have liked to seen the passenger manifest on that one.

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By PatrickHenry, March 3, 2012 at 8:24 am Link to this comment

moonraven,

Shillbilly, now thats funny.

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By drbhelthi, March 3, 2012 at 6:46 am Link to this comment

Other reports have him being assassinated.  One such report was given by Benazir
Bhutto before her own assassination.  Maani

I assume you are talking about the same Saudi that was hired by GHWBushSr to be
used in a few newspaper articles and videos to present a semblance of initiating
terror, Osama bin Laden.  The CIA documented his death, but few will reveal it, due to
fear of assassination.  A former physician in the CIA issued a statement, before the
company throttled him.  Also, most administrators in the dialysis industry, and many
of their sales personnel, know the accurate story.  Which story is suppressed at all
costs by the Obama administration, a continuation of the GHWBushSr entourage.  The
history of the GHWBushSr entourage is graphically portrayed by the cartoon of Mr.
Fish, which includes Osama bin Laden, the hireling of GHWBushSr, one more puppet
used to create the fictitious war on terror. 
http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/mr-fish-boo-hoo/

When I mentioned the death of bin Laden to an associate of a foreign intelligence
agency last Summer at an airport, the person said immediately, “19 December 2001.” 
The person did not say if someone pulled the plug on his dialysis machine, which
might relate with the statement of Bhutto.  It is generally known that bin Laden was on
his deathbed at the time of 9-11, and the FBI found no evidence associating him.  It is
also generally known that as 9-11 was occurring, GHWBushSr was conducting arms
sales with Saudi family representatives in the White House.  It is also generally known
that the Saudi family airliner was conducted out of US airspace on 12 September 2001,
by a US fighter jet.  All Americans were grounded, while the GHWBushSr entourage
gave the Saudis a US jet fighter escort.  Why ?

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By heterochromatic, March 2, 2012 at 11:45 pm Link to this comment

Maani—-those e-mails aren’t anything at all, AFAIK, just a bit of speculation
from someone with absolutely zero information or access to any.


and looking at photographs of ears are pretty damn different from examining
ears.

don’t know who these three “experts” are of what they were working from, but
it wouldn’t be deemed of much evidentiary value.

—-

what I do think likely is that bin Laden’s corpse was tossed away, but tissue
samples and such were were preserved.

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By Maani, March 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm Link to this comment

Het:

Here is the cite.  Click on the “subject” of the two emails:

http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/releasedate/2012-02-29-18-obl-s-body-transfered-to-delaware-with-cia.html

BTW, there is proof positive that the man killed in Pakistan was not OBL.  Most people are aware that a person’s fingerprints are unique to the individual.  What most people DON’T know is that the same is true with only one other part of the body: the ears.  No two pairs are shaped the same; they are as individual as fingerprints.

Three experts from three different countries compared the ear of the man killed in Pakistan (you will remember the picture of him watching TV) with the ear of earlier photos of OBL.  A complete mismatch.  Not even close.

Moon:

Probably more like 2002, or 2003.  There are conflicting reports, however.

Some say he died of kidney failure.  This is quite likely, given that he continued to get more and more gaunt between 2001 and 2002.  (Another way we now the man killed in Pakistan was not OBL: he was far too dark and far too healthy.)

Other reports have him being assassinated.  One such report was given by Benazir Bhutto before her own assassination.

But in any case, it is a near-certainty that OBL had been dead for at least six or seven years by the time of the Pakistan raid.

Peace.

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By gerard, March 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment

Three cheers for Mexico!

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By moonraven, March 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

Check it out, oh gulible patriot.

Two-step?  That’s Texas, sorry.  Hillbilly (as in Texas Hill Country).

While you are kicking shit with the other shitkickers down there in Crawford, I’m off for s few tacos al pastor.

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By PatrickHenry, March 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

I thought it more appropriate than shillboy, but hey I’m flexible.

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By heterochromatic, March 2, 2012 at 6:15 pm Link to this comment

bronx cheering is good in my book, birdie, born and
raised there.


in return for the honor, I’ll dance a Mexican two-
step and think of you all the while.

no crazy nonsense about bin Laden or Mark Twain dying
of renal insufficiency in 2001 or 1002…..

unless you were at his bedside and kissed him off as
he kicked, maybe pecked at his eyeballs post-mortem,
then you’re just squawking shite.

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By moonraven, March 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment

Actiually, Pat, sockpuppet is very old hat.

And it refers to someone running multiple identities on the same thread to make himself or herself appear to have supporters.

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By PatrickHenry, March 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment

The new term is sock puppet.

http://boingboing.net/2011/03/17/us-military-launches.html

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By moonraven, March 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

Hettie:

I am giving you a resounding bronx cheer!

Best you’ll ever get from this bird, shillboy.

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By heterochromatic, March 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm Link to this comment

moonie—- I doubt that you know “everyone who’s not a
fool”....or that any of them would spend much time
talking with you.


bin Laden died in the JFK assassination plot which was
conducted by Nazi time travelers from the locked ward
of drb.

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By moonraven, March 2, 2012 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

Hettie:

Give it a rest.  Everyone who is not a damned fool knows that Bin Laden died in hospital from kidney failure in 2001.

Only shills like you keep ragging on us to buy the Hollywood spectacle that was the Taking of Bin Laden and Execution of Same 123.

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By heterochromatic, March 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm Link to this comment

Maani, it seems that no one other than yourself
noticed.

Can you print out the the text or relevant
portion???????

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By moonraven, March 2, 2012 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment

Hmmm:

According to Maxipad, I am the only person here posting anonymously and from a house somebody else built.

Wrong on both counts, cheerleader for genocide:

1.  Moonraven is my tribal name.

2.  I am posting from an internet cafe in a commercial building in Mexico.

As for machismo, I think you have to be male to indulge in that.  Machismo on a larger scale applies to white males who promote genocide on this and other internet sites.  You know, folks just like YOU, who want to kick non-white ass so bad they can taste it, but live vicariously through military grunts and subscriptions to Stratfor.

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By Maani, March 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm Link to this comment

Uh…did anyone notice that among the emails were a couple that suggested - strongly - that the body of OBL was NOT buried at sea, but was flown to Dover AFB?  (Though I suppose some of us are not exactly surprised by this…)

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By OzarkMichael, March 2, 2012 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

One of the reasons I like Amy Goodman is that she so readily makes my case for me. I like ‘pursue the truth and not its messenger’ because it applies quite well to Andrew Breitbart, who exposes the inconvenient truths.  Thanks, Amy.

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By drbhelthi, March 2, 2012 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

“Time for some well qualified psychiatrists to get on the case of people with this
frame of mind.”  Gerard

Nice idea. However, those who configure the DSM tend to confuse the already
existing problem.  With their most recent publication, the authors want to prescribe
multiple medications for every child and adult, continuing until death.  Objective
observers view the current DSM to represent the defective mental health of the
pharma lobby, not the citizenry.

“This frame of mind” is a valuable idea.  Consider the blogs to Truthdig of several
bloggers.  That they are not certifiably insane is obvious to me.  However, their blogs
display values that reflect the comparatively few who parasite on the graciousness
of the folk of the USA, Germany, and the western world since 1947.  This
graciousness generated a wave of sympathy in response to the Holocaust.  On the
crest of which wave Zionist leadership continues to surf, hiding behind the non-
sequitur, “Jew.”  Bribery of US politicians, at all levels possible, insures prejudicial
support for “Israel,” and its spoiled-brat behavior at the international level.  Which
behavior should have been stopped in the 1950s, attempted by JFKSr in the 1960s,
one of the numerous motives for murdering him.

“Need to Know: UFOs, the Military, and Intelligence,” by Timothy Good, is well
documented.  Over the last thirty years, various “whistle-blowers,” former insiders in
the secretive UFO wing of the USGOV, have come forward, revealing insider
information.  For which, most of them died mysterious or unexplained deaths, while
a few simply disappeared.  Eight days prior to his murder, JFKSr issued an order for
the CIA to reveal to him its accumulated UFO info.  The former NAZI, Dr. Werner von
Braun, came to appreciate the US so much, that he shared the NAZI secret plan, to
take control of the world, with an associate.  He charged Dr. Carol Rosin to
broadcast this information to the world, which she continues to do.
http://iqxs.posterous.com/werner-von-braun-enemy-list

The “frame of mind” consistently demonstrated by the deceitful double-speak of
Obama and his appointees, who deliberately-consistently kill the messenger, the
behavior of Israeli Zionists, and MOSSAD-type bloggers.  All which behavior may
lead to the next World War.  Is destroying humanity on earth one goal of the
extraterrestrials that the Austrian reject, Adolf Hitler, purveyed onto the world as
“Aryans”?  How extensively these humanoids have intermingled with and populated
humanity is brought increasingly into question by realistic, serious thinkers.

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By ArgoMerchant, March 1, 2012 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment
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Too many war profiteers, oil interests, State department, military and civilian
authorities have had their communications exposed to suggest that there will
be any form of adherance to the law. If there ain’t a law, they’ll make one up.

just look at the recent NDAA and AUMF expansions…

The Obama / Holder justice department has prosecuted more whistleblowers
with more extreme force than ALL PREVIOUS Administrations COMBINED!

The NDAA posturing prior to passage was instructive as to their intentions.

No prosecutions of war crimes
No prosecutions of Telecom wiretap violations
No prosecutions of Wall Street fraud

Instead, chickenshit draconian pursuit and spying on Occupy,
whistleblowers…medicinal marijuana users…

And I worked on the campaign to bring about Hope and Change
Now I hope there’ll be change…. but it won’t be coming from this admin.

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By gerard, March 1, 2012 at 8:46 pm Link to this comment

As to the White House dinner for war vets, it will be interesting to learn how many Veterans Against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars attend—and/or were even invited.  Hopefully, some, because they will give Mr. Obama an earful. (That raises a question I wouldn’t have thought of before:  I wonder who decided on the guest list, and on what basis those decisions were made?)

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By PatrickHenry, March 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm Link to this comment

Stratfor, just another replacement for biased news and slanted investigative journalism. 

A ‘source’ designed to give policy makers the necessary supporting ‘backup’ from so called independent sources other than the CIA when that agency’s anaylsis doesn’t fit their agenda.

Run by an Holocaust survivor (how many are there?} who never served a day in the Agency, his agenda is pretty clear, moslems are bad, Israel is good.

This rag is not a hair on the ass of Janes Intelligence Group of publications.

Just another of the private contractors like SAIC, Xe,  Booz Allen Hamilton and many others who inhabit the DC area, who recieve huge Government contracts for doing work we pay civil servants for and who then give back large campaign contributions from the contracts they scam.

Truely criminal and wasteful.

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By bilfo, March 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment
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WASHINGTON — On April 24, 2010, George Friedman, the CEO and founder of Stratfor, an Austin, Texas, company that specializes in writing analyses of international political developments, sent an email from his BlackBerry to one of his employees. It was a response to a suggestion that the company buy email encryption software. He no doubt rues his short missive today.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2012/02/29/2236095/wikileaks-stratfor-emails-reveal.html#storylink=cpy

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By Laser Haas, March 1, 2012 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment
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AMEN to the logic that we should be in pursuit of the truth - instead of assaulting those who have to go to extraordinary steps to bring it before us.

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By IMax, March 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

hetero - “moonie identifies herself as a tall, overfed 67 year old woman with an
overstuffed head full of bitterness toward those of pale plumage and parentage.”

-

Well, I’m even more impressed with her machismo.

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By diamond, March 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

“Want much of the same information corporations and heads of states are getting?  Desire to be a great deal more informed than the media sources you’ve relied on in the past?  Care to predict many global events before they take place?  Subscribe to Stratfor.”

When hell freezes over, Imax, and not a minute before. Taking advice from psychopaths is always a bad idea.

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By heterochromatic, March 1, 2012 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

IMax——- moonie identifies herself as a tall, overfed 67 year old woman with an
overstuffed head full of bitterness toward those of pale plumage and parentage.


nothing manly at all

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By IMax, March 1, 2012 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment

moonraven,

My goodness, I’m impressed.  You’re such a manly bad-ass when you’re feeling safe, hiding anonymously, in a house someone else built.

You’re so very smart too.  Voting is for suckers.  My God, you’re right!  Voting truly is for suckers.  Best you stay indoors that day.

If you share your name and address here I’ll gladly purchase one year Stratfor services in your name.

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By moonraven, March 1, 2012 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

Toyota:

Voting is for suckers.

Do it someplace else.

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By moonraven, March 1, 2012 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

Sorry, pal, promoters of land theft, resource robbery and genocide can take their “point of view” and shove it.

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By IMax, March 1, 2012 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

moonraven, - “IMax, You have some nerve….”

-

I see you’re an open-minded and all-inclusive lover of all points of view.

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By IMax, March 1, 2012 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

gerard,

You want to see cold, crass, mean-spirited comments of the like you describe?  Wait until numerous idiots here begin commenting on Andrew Breitbart’s sudden death.  My guess is you’ll stay completely quiet.

I disagreed with Breitbart on nearly everything.  Nonetheless I am deeply saddened for his children and family.  I’ll lament the loss of a passionate and worthy ideological adversary.

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By moonraven, March 1, 2012 at 11:37 am Link to this comment

Imax:

You have some nerve coming here on the US government payroll to smear your pernicious imperialist propaganda on the virtual page.

Your rancid stench preceded you.

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By jimmmmmy, March 1, 2012 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

toyotabed… capitals and insults classy. the lesser evil argument is bogus and a cop-out to use a 60s term. its a way for people to justify and support the status quo. in the u.s. o’bama has already locked up and deported far more people than bush. a small but niggling fact.

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By ToyotaBedZRock, March 1, 2012 at 11:25 am Link to this comment

WAKE UP

IF ROMNEY IS ELECTED BRADLEY MANNING WILL HAVE ZERO CHANCE

IF OBAMA IS ELECTED BRADLEY AT LEAST HAS SOME!

DON’T THROW AWAY YOUR VOTE SEEKING PERFECTION!

REPUBLICANS IMPLEMENT LONG TERM PLANS THAT MOVE THEM TO THE RIGHT WITH THE COUNTRY

YOU MORONS THINK IT CAN BE DONE IN A SINGLE ELECTION AND YOUR SHORT SIGHTEDNESS HURTS EVERYONE ELSE!!!

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By gerard, March 1, 2012 at 11:17 am Link to this comment

The quote from Amy Goodman’s program that most needs to be remembered, in my opinion, is this quote from   “Fred Burton, Stratfor’s vice president of intelligence, and a former head of counterintelligence at the U.S. State Department’s diplomatic corps, wrote: ‘Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever.’ Another Stratfor employee wanted Assange waterboarded.” 
  This, like the Bush/Cheney “extraordinary rendition”, is a million miles away from anything resembling fairness or justice. Time for some well qualified psychiatrists to get on the case of people with this frame of mind. IMO Stratfor et al would actuallly benefit from some of Wikileaks’ far more ethical and fair “open-and-above-boarding” which Stratfor seems to despise.

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By IMax, March 1, 2012 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

Stratfor is a terrific service for anyone who wishes to keep abreast of global events and players.  I’ve benefited tremendously from the service for nearly 15 years.  A bevy of information.  Absolutely invaluable to me.

After Anonymous stole files from Stratfor the company began paying the subscription fees for services which monitors my banking activity, E-Mail activity and credit changes.  All in an effort to protect me further from thieves.  Outstanding Stratfor.  Outstanding!

Balanced, forward-looking, and unemotional.  A resource which doesn’t take sides.

Want much of the same information corporations and heads of states are getting?  Desire to be a great deal more informed than the media sources you’ve relied on in the past?  Care to predict many global events before they take place?  Subscribe to Stratfor.

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By jimmmmmy, March 1, 2012 at 11:01 am Link to this comment

o’bama and his advisers” handlers” are currently trying to devine whether or not they would gain or loose votes by rendering mr. asange before the elections, but rendered he will be. the brad manning trial is being drug out and heavily censored for the same reasons, although manning did break his loyalty oath, and should have resigned before going pulic ,like ellsberg did.

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By jimmmmmy, March 1, 2012 at 10:51 am Link to this comment

ms goodman are you aware of the plight of marc emory canadas “prince of pot” who was rendered to your gentle prison system by o’bamas justice dept., and our new fascist prime minister mr harper. guess what for? selling seeds over the internet from his home in canada. i see no mention of him in the data stream or corporate media. has he been killed or brutalised in your prison system? info. please

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By jimmmmmy, March 1, 2012 at 10:06 am Link to this comment

i’m truly frightened by what o,bama and holder are doing to amerikan civil liberties, and whistle blowers in particular. o’bama ia a hand puppet of wall street and the security “industry”. romney may actually be a better choice. i took a lot of “stick” from my friends and relatives, for pointing who o’bamas real constituancy was. i don’t by the lesser evil argument for many reasons, and won’t vote for either candidate. i think a ralph nader /ron paul ticket would be a start

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By omop, March 1, 2012 at 10:06 am Link to this comment

miroslav.

spot on. spot on. Marvel is better comic book.

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By heterochromatic, March 1, 2012 at 9:43 am Link to this comment

Assange is over and done…. Even those who worked with him want no part of him
now.

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By miroslav, March 1, 2012 at 8:36 am Link to this comment

Stratfor may be staffed by some former intelligence
operatives, but it’s a scam. They peddle their so-called
intel to Goldmann Sachs and Coca Cola for a heavy price.
It is a rogue firm, it belongs into the novel Catch-22.
See Jack Schaeffer’s piece on the underwhelming crap they
peddle.
http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2012/02/27/wikiyawn/

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By balkas, March 1, 2012 at 8:25 am Link to this comment

i guess assange had not been killed because being dead he’d be much, too much,
bigger than being alive.

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By thecrow, March 1, 2012 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

“Forgiveness without justice is a bitter pill. But denial and forgetting without justice makes forgiveness impossible and, as Tutu suggests, imprisons you forever in your own history. In this country we have been asked to forego justice and made forgiveness unnecessary because we have foregone the truth, too.”

- Robert Shetterly

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/a-naming-of-parts/

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By chris ml, March 1, 2012 at 7:14 am Link to this comment
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Another Stratfor employee wanted Assange waterboarded.


How very nice and fair.


War Crimes by the US are to be kept secret
And STRATFOR are helping ....for money.

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By Paul_GA, March 1, 2012 at 6:29 am Link to this comment

If the question is “guns or butter?”, I say damn the guns to Perdition; pass the butter, please!

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By Lafayette, March 1, 2012 at 4:37 am Link to this comment

GUNS OR BUTTER?

... rogue private intelligence firm with close ties to government-intelligence agencies serving both corporate and U.S. military clients

It would be highly advantageous to out those messages from private industry that have an impact upon economic matters. Particularly, if possible, penetrating the veil covering relations between the DoD and the M-I-C.

It also would help, obviously, that government employees who have any dealing whatsoever with a private vendor of goods/services should be prohibited from working with that supplier under pain of judicial pursuit for infraction of the law.

The nation must get a stanglehold around the beast’s neck. If anything needs a bit of austerity, it’s the DoD budget. When a nation comes down to the pitiful selection of “Guns or Butter” it should be self-evident to select the latter (aka Social Investments).

But with LaLaLand’s massive Lobbying Business on behalf of the Plutocrats, that seems Mission Impossible. (Where is Tom Cruise when we need him? Making fiction action-films ...)

LaLaLand’s Revolving Door between government agencies and private industry must be shut and locked.

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