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Posted on Nov 22, 2011
White House / Pete Souza

President Obama stands atop the Great Wall during a visit to China. Like the barbarian hordes the wall was built to keep out, the U.S. under Obama policy could be an ever-present worry to the Chinese.

By William Pfaff

One might think that a bitter Central Asian war in Afghanistan, spilling into Pakistan, with no sign of ending, and an as yet ambiguous military commitment to a defeated and incompletely reconstituted Iraq, now overshadowed by Iran and the Arab Awakening across the Middle East, would be enough for President Barack Obama to cope with.

He was, after all, elected to reduce American military commitments. He was going to end things in Iraq, fight the “right war” in Afghanistan, which Gen. David Petraeus told him could be wound up in a year. Unaccustomed to generals as he might have been, he surely did not expect “Af-Pak” to turn into a permanent activity and a source of income for the Pentagon and the American arms industry.

Why then does he now want a war with China? No one seems to have made much of this in American press reports and comment, but others have noticed, most of all in China. His journey to Asia this month proclaimed a Pax Americana for Asia—which as such is absurd. The effort is likely to become just the opposite: a steadily deepening and costly engagement in suppressing China’s attempt to reclaim the Asian preeminence it held for more than a thousand years.

This is the sort of thing that starts world wars. Think of Hohenzollern, Germany, challenging British sea power before 1914. Think of Japan’s long and bloody effort to make itself Asia’s imperial power. Think of what it took for Napoleon to conquer Europe and much of the Mediterranean, and then what it took Britain, Russia, Spanish guerrilla-peasants, and assorted others to wear down and defeat Napoleon. The lesson is: Don’t start wars with powers being driven by revolutionary enthusiasm or nationalism to claim—or reclaim—a place in the sun.

What is at stake between China and the United States? We are on the opposite sides of the world with next to nothing to fight about, except raw materials—of which there still is a good deal available for all. Industrial domination of the world? What does that actually mean, and what is it worth? Bragging rights about who is top nation? That’s what Washington seems to care about. If American leaders push that too far, they could end in a war that eliminates both from the competition.

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The Spratly Islands? The message Barack Obama delivered to Asia, first in Indonesia in mid-November while attending the political conference organized to accompany an ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) conference, and subsequently at a bilateral meeting with the Australian government, was a double-barreled warning by the United States to China.

This message said that the United States now considers itself a permanent Pacific and Asian power. Just as it settled in long ago as an unofficial permanent European power (the ally who wouldn’t go home), it now is permanently Asian, and anything that happens in the Pacific and the Far East automatically will concern Americans.

The specific meaning of this message, as directed to Beijing, was that matters officially considered by China to be local or regional in nature, and meant to be solved directly by one-to-one negotiations between China and its neighbors, are now considered by the United States to be America’s affair too. (We are talking here about islands in the South China Sea, possible sites of energy and other resources, to which rival claims are made by China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, and Taiwan, and also the Senkaku Islands held by Japan but claimed by China and Taiwan.) There is, in addition, the Taiwan issue itself, which China considers a rebel province, and Taiwan disagrees.

The president then went on to Canberra and signed an agreement with Australia to station 2,500 U.S. Marines in Australia’s Northern Territory (closest to mainland Asia). He said to the Australian Parliament that the United States is shifting its military weight from the Middle East to the Pacific, declaring in one of those “Let there be no doubt” phrases habitual to American presidents that “in the Asia Pacific in the 21st century, the United States of America is all in.”

Are we Americans really sure that we want to be “all in”? All in what? A war over China’s claims on Taiwan and the South China Sea? Or over access to “rare earths”? Or over—as just might happen—a China reduced to ruins by revolutionary upheaval? Or, are Mr. Obama and the Washington elite looking for distraction from our own revolutionary unrest?


Visit William Pfaff’s website for more on his latest book, “The Irony of Manifest Destiny: The Tragedy of America’s Foreign Policy” (Walker & Co., $25), at www.williampfaff.com.

© 2011 Tribune Media Services, Inc.


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By heterochromatic, November 29, 2011 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment

and I ask you…yet again…to post links to some of the “well-documented”

simply asserting that you have documentation is pretty hollow….if you don’t have
links, you must have names and titles….


something ....

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By drbhelthi, November 29, 2011 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic

My statements are well documented.  Some documentation goes back to 1941 and the Library of Congress.  Some are more recent, having been stated by six, different, former CIA agents who decided to quit the CIA, and inform Americans and the world of what has been going on since 1950.  Even former Pres. Truman said he regretted signing off on the creation of the C.I.A.  However, the abbreviated name of “tic” is the creation of “blogdog”.

Good ole “tic”, and continuing disinformation. 
“tic” the retired, raving pedant.

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By heterochromatic, November 29, 2011 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

drb~~~~~@heterochromatic
While your clan may be issuing marching orders from the AIPAC flagpole….~~~~~

yeah, you’re just some fucked-up nut…with nothing but delusional raving to your
name.


you ‘ve got nothing but lunacy and a head full of lunacy.

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By drbhelthi, November 29, 2011 at 4:45 am Link to this comment

The classification of “tic” by blogdog still takes the cake:

“tic, as a retired pedant, you know well - - “

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By drbhelthi, November 29, 2011 at 4:19 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic
While your clan may be issuing marching orders from the AIPAC flagpole, and from the innards of USGOV, at least Truthdiggers continue to choose what they write.  And chuckle at your dictator tendency.

While recognizing the tail that somewhat wags the dog.  To the sorrow of the six
million from back then, and the current 99%.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 12:53 pm Link to this comment

I don’t describe veracity and altruism in those terms, drb. I describe your errant
assertions as such until the time that you produce the many printed sources that
you’ve claimed to back up your bullshit.

I presume only to lead the request for verification for supposed veracity.

if you got the cards, drb, put ‘em on the table…if you don’t, then fold up your tent
and wander.

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By drbhelthi, November 28, 2011 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic

Your presuming leadership of, and attempting to direct others is certainly
delusional type behavior.  You are skilled at giving advice you might better
use for yourself.  Especially, with your skills in denying veracity and altruism,
and classifying both as delusion and shit.  Nor does assuming the last word
qualify one as superior.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment

when you start to produce your alleged historical records and if they are indeed
real, you will have forced me to to consider your claims respectable.

but for as long as you pretend that you disdain producing records, I, and likely
others, must conclude that you really can not produce any evidence.

that’s just the way it is, drb…...delusion grow quite elaborate over time and you
can fool yourself….just don’t try to fool others with your elaborate yarns when all
you with are empty hands.

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By drbhelthi, November 28, 2011 at 12:03 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic

Certainly.
Interesting, that the buzz-words, delusional and conspiratorial, describe the activities of the quasi-humans who attempt to insult altruists with the misnomers.  And you are caught in the middle, unless you know too much.  Or, unless you begin to display your alleged religion and behave altruistically; which will set off alarms in your “company.” 

The difference between what I write and what you write, is that my statements are
supported by historical records.  Your statements are contrived disinformation, a continuation of your career.

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By heterochromatic, November 28, 2011 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

drb, yeah, the delusional generally attempt to rationalize why they can’t give
responsive answers and then spew more delusional droppings of conspiratorial
crap.

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By drbhelthi, November 28, 2011 at 2:07 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic                                                              
“you should do it not for me but to show the other folks- -“ 
”..so just play it off, drb “

Certainly.  “ to show other folks - -” ?                                         
Because you wish to direct me to do it, in order to support your foiled attempt to exercise your presumed leadership of Truthdiggers.   

I continue to respond to your shill efforts, to show respect for genuine Americans such as Chip Tatum, Bill Colby and others.  All of whom had taken the oath to support the USPresident, violating their pledge to support the Constitution of the United States of America and the Republic for which it stands.  Genuine Americans, who ultimately could no longer support the dishonesty and dissolution of the USA, who revealed the sinister truth about the C.I.A.  Americans who were assassinated for breaking rank with the NAZI history of the CIA, its many years of destructive gyrations in 3rd world countries, its having infiltrated USGOV and state governments in order to assist in dissolving the U.S.of A.  The CIA, responsible for the murders of innocent millions, several times the number of innocent Jew-folk murdered by the Zionist-Hitler movement of WWII.  The U.S. C.I.A., which sacrifices its own, like Oswald, and punishes Valerie Plame-types, who have occasionally done honest work.  The C.I.A., which now appears to be manipulated by the Israeli MOSSAD. 

My responses to your disinformative blogs also show respect for Americans, such as Pat Tillman, Bradley Manning, and other folk who have supported democratic government, such as Julian Assange.  All of whom have received CIA-type punitive action.  The CIA, secretively led by GHWBushSr until revealed by a letter he wrote to J.E.Hoover a few days after JFKSr was murdered.  GHWBushSr, whose most singularly destructive puppet was his Junior, who followed “daddy´s orders.”  Which information is evidently known by various Truthdiggers, who have generally stopped responding to your bloggy disinformation.

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By heterochromatic, November 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

you should do it not for me but to show the other folks how well-sourced your
bullshit it, drb, and how terribly EVIL and untrue is my refutation of it.


but of course all you can do is to prove that you’re merely repeating other
bujllshitters bullshit…..so just play it off, drb.

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By drbhelthi, November 27, 2011 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment

@ tic
“go on, drb, put up or shut up.”

You never seem to quite master the idea that you do not represent
anyone on Truthdig other than “tic”, certainly do not give orders to
Truthdiggers.  Which fact other Truthdiggers have also shared with
you.

Just as you refuse to accept the truth other Truthdiggers have shared
with you, you would also refute any documentation I might present. 
Anyway, why would I care to exert effort for anyone who shills for the
CIA and the forces of EVIL ?

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By heterochromatic, November 27, 2011 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

if it’s so well-documented…....post the documentation, dude.

let us all see just how solidly-based your bullshit about Gehlen organizing the CIA
proves to be….......

go on, drb, put up or shut up.

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By heterochromatic, November 27, 2011 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

if it’s so well-documented…post the documentation, dude. 


let’s see just how well-founded your bullshit proves to be.

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By drbhelthi, November 27, 2011 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment

@ “tic” (heterochromatic)

“bassackwards, drb”

Your blog is of course your typical disinformation.  The usual disinformation, attempting to refute accuracy while attempting to cast aspersion on whoever provides it.

The amount paid to NAZI SS General Gehlin by Dulles for reviving OSS functions into the C.I.A. is well documented, in addition to other detail.  Most of which is well-documented in several books, some in the Library of Congress.

Interestingly enough, I had coffee this afternoon with a former NAZI spy under Gehlin, who spent 4 years in captivity in England.  He is now 90, with six stents, but still walks without a cane.  He said at one point, “we were all under Gehlin, and had no choice.”  He also revealed a bit of information that is not in the documentation that I have found.  He is now free to openly reveal secrets of a WWII, NAZI spy.  Somewhat similar to American Patriots such as John Stockwell and Chip Tatum, who have divested themselves of the C.I.A., as they could take no more of the disinformation and dishonesty - such as you typically present.

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By heterochromatic, November 27, 2011 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment

——the total murdered by the NAZI SS General
Reinhard
Gehlin-organized C.I.A.,——

of course, that just the usual lunacy talking. Gehlen
didn’t organize the CIA…at all.

He was allowed to set up an organization in Eastern
Europe that, in part,  WORKED FOR the CIA.


bassackwards, drb

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By drbhelthi, November 27, 2011 at 3:59 am Link to this comment

@prisnersdilema, November 22 at 9:08 pm

“I wonder if China will loan us the money to have a war with them, after they loan us
the money to have a war with Iran…?  Or maybe instead of a war they could just stop
loaning us money and watch us go belly up?”

Good points.
The discovery of “USGOV spooks” by the governance of Iran and Lebanon, and the
action taken, will be disregarded by the “Barack H. Obama” continuation of the
GHWBushSr entourage.  However, once Chinese governance locates some of the
“USGOV” spooks meddling with their Islam clan, castrate them at the neck, and issue
a warning, at least the USGOV spooks will get the message.  The “new toy” effect of
USGOV bribe monies has worn off the governance of Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and
never took effect in Libya.  Which is why the GHWBushSr entourage had Gadhaffi
murdered and Libya destroyed by its NATO pimpery, front-stage, comrade Sarkozy.

When one attempts to add-up the total murdered by the NAZI SS General Reinhard
Gehlin-organized C.I.A., and the thousands of coup d´tat conducted in 3rd world
countries and the Mid East, the number is several times the millions of innocent Jew-
folk the Zionist-Hitler movement murdered.  http://wn.com/JOHN_AND_THE_CIA

To me it is very saddening that so many thousands of valuably-talented, above-
average Americans have been misused in the CIA and FBI.  Just imagine what they
could have done, working in genuine support of the United States of America and the
Republic for which it stands.  The picture, displayed as a cartoon by Mr. Fish,
accurately displays the trail of murders left behind by the GHWBushSr entourage.
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/boo_who_20111027/

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By Archie1954, November 26, 2011 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment
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I think PM Gillard got her girdle in a twist and when Obama wouldn’t let go she agreed to placing a US military force on Australian territory. Sad but probably true.

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By drbhelthi, November 26, 2011 at 1:23 am Link to this comment

Excerpt:
“But in America, this one is easy.  A politician is very unlikely to be held accountable for anything truly awful.  Authorizing a war based on lie, bombing the hell out of civilians, or supporting the snatch and grab torture network- that’s all fine.  But if you get caught shirtless on the Internet or like the occasional blow-job, you can guarantee a media circus and the end of most careers.”

“If you as an individual are smart enough to get to the point where you understand how the news is generated and how inaccurate it is, you can no longer believe the reality they construct for you.  You are now media literate.  With this skill in place, you can begin the process of dissolving the false illusions presented to you and glimpse the emperor with no clothes.”

http://www.josephcouture.com/Joseph_Couture_Personal_Page/                    Quarrel_With_the_Darkness/Entries/2011/11/24_The_Truth_About_the_Lies_     We_Are_Told.html

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By blogdog, November 25, 2011 at 6:17 pm Link to this comment

bingo! tic, gold star for you today - lesson: only trust ones own analysis -
question all data and its sources, especially, but not limited to the MSM - learn the
meaning, symptoms, applications of ‘deflective source disinformation’ e.g.
Wikileaks - develop analytical thought by studying analyses of those who appear
to break through the paradigm of Full Spectrum Dominance ... e.g.
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/ - http://tarpley.net/ -
http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/nato´s-secret-terrorist-armies/ -
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/

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By heterochromatic, November 25, 2011 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment

dog, what I do know is that if you postulate that everything that you read is
designed to deceive then you’re no better off trusting the veracity of your links
than you are trusting any others.

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By blogdog, November 25, 2011 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

tic, as a retired pedant, you know well that dumbing down the citizenry is easier
than jailing them - in light of that, again…3 things about which there is no
need to speculate; we have them from the source:

1. “Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the state.” - James Jesus
Angelton - Director of CIA Counter Intelligence (1954-74)

2. “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the
major media.” - William Colby - Director of the CIA (1973-76)

3. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the
American public believes is false.” — William J. Casey, Director of the CIA (1981
- 1987)

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By heterochromatic, November 25, 2011 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

dog, I guess if you’re gonna shrug backing up one ill-
based and untruthful allegation and instead put up some
more nonsense from even less credible sources, there’s
really no point in not simply shrugging them off.

link to anything, but please try to find something that
has an actual verifiable basis….

better for you and all of us.

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By blogdog, November 25, 2011 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment

The Real Axis of Evil for Balochistan/Pakistan
Posted on May 12, 2011
The Real Axis of Evil for Balochistan/Pakistan
Blackwater/Xe – CIA – Mosad – RAW
http://tinyurl.com/8aah9fb
Sabrina Baloch
March 15, 2011

Blackwater, the CIA’s deadliest sidekick, has launched a massive operation to
promote insurgency in Balochistan, especially in the coastal areas, as part of its
efforts to destabilize the country, it is learnt. The CIA and Blackwater (now Xe
Services) operating from the USA have two major designs in Pakistan – to
control the entire business of the Gwadar port and to carry out colossal suicide
attacks across central Punjab and north-western areas of the country to tell the
world that the first atomic Islamic power is ungovernable.

“They wish to have complete control over the entire Balochistan, especially the
Gwadar port, and seize the nuclear assets of Pakistan,” said former Inter
Services Intelligence (ISI) Punjab chief Brigadier (r) Mohammad Aslam Ghuman.

The Gwadar Port in Balochistan (one of Pakistan’s tribal regions) has been
headline news in Pakistan, India and China this month. Interesting that I can’t
find one mention of it in the western media – not even in on-line publications.
Since many Pakistani commentators trace the US shift in military focus from
Iraq to Afghanistan to the completion of the Chinese-built deep water port in
2005. I myself never heard of the Gwadar Port until I came across an obscure
Pakistani blog by Khalid Baig. I was so concerned about its content that I
assisted his translator in polishing the English and republished it on
OpEdNews.
[...]
__________________________

RAW and Blackwater collaboration in Terrorism in Pakistan
Posted on March 14, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/85bbkxp
BY: SYED HAROON HAIDER GILANI
[...]
These terrorists are being funded and trained by CIA’s private contractors like
Blackwater and Dyn Corp with in Pakistani territory while some are being trained
in Afghan territory by Indian and MOSSAD operated terrorist training camps.
Some training centres are set up by militants of Blackwater and Dyncorp inside
Pakistan.

[...]
________________________

Blackwater/XE behind terrorist bombings in Asia and Africa?
http://forum.pakistanidefence.com/index.php?showtopic=87115
Wayne Madsen
Online Journal
Monday, January 18th, 2010
[...]
Blackwater/XE and agents of the Mossad and RAW are also reportedly active in
sponsoring Islamist terrorist groups active in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and the
Xinjiang-Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) of China for a variety of reasons.
For the United States, the operations are to ensure those nation’s support for
the U.S. “counter-terrorism” operations in central Asia. For India, there is a
desire to pin blame for support for Uighur and other central Asian Islamist
guerrilla movements on Pakistan in order to drive a wedge between Beijing and
Islamabad. For Israel, the support helps in continuing close security
relationships between Tel Aviv and Beijing and the Muslim Central Asian
“stans.”

[...]

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By heterochromatic, November 25, 2011 at 12:40 pm Link to this comment

dog… find the media report that’s being used as source for the quote and let’s
look at THAT REPORT for the person being quoted and the words of warning.

I’ve seen lots of stories in various news sources after the US went into Pakistan
and plugged bin Laden…..and every last one that suggested that there was some
deep military alliance between Pakistan and China came the Pakistanis…..


China has significant issues with Pakistan and isn’t going to war in defense of
Pakistan’s sovereign right to shield transnational terrorists…...particularly as
Pakistan is being used as a training ground for Muslim separatists working to
declare an autonomous Islamic state in part of China.

Pakistani propaganda and puffery, dog, as the Pakistanis were trying to show that
Pakistan could replace all the US aid money and resist US pressure to clean out
the terrorist safe havens in Pakistan.

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By drbhelthi, November 25, 2011 at 11:56 am Link to this comment

The deception of the israeli nuclear program began with Ben-Gurion in 1961.  John F. Kennedy Sr. made concessions to Ben-Gurion regarding the initial inspection of the Israeli nuclear reactor.  In spite of JFK´s concessions, Ben Gurion had a false, ground-level, semi-copy of the actual control room, built above the actual control room.  All the gauges worked, but none were connected to the actual nuclear reactor.  Israeli falsification of its nuclear program has continued.

The only “unabated nuclear program” in the world, is that of Israel.  Is it any wonder they distract with their assault on the concept of nuclear-weapons production by Iran ?  Distraction, while they continue their destruction of Palestinian property and Palestinian folk.  While israeli leadership refuse to respond to questions about the nukes in the Israeli arsenal.  While the International Atomic Energy Commission concerns itself with Israeli charges against Iran, instead of requiring an inspection of Israeli nuclear facilities.

Who is the head of the IAEC now? 
Has the Rothschild international banking cartel made another acquisition?

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By blogdog, November 25, 2011 at 11:26 am Link to this comment

China ‘asks USA to respect Pak sovereignty’
19 May 2011 - Press Trust of India - ISLAMABAD, 19 MAY:
[...]
The report said China “warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be
construed as an attack on China”. </b>The two premiers held a 45-minute one-on-one meeting
before beginning talks with their delegations.

[...]
http://tinyurl.com/3fdmlry

tic, the subtleties of Chinese diplomacy are lost on those for whom Teddy Roosevelt is probably the
greatest statesman of modern times… well, probably the greatest Bonapartist

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By drbhelthi, November 25, 2011 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

Since Osama bin Laden died of renal failure, on 19 Dec 2001, the raid that allegedly murdered him is a fraudulent, hollywood movie.  The former CIA chief reported that no signal was being received when the Obama cabinet was allegedly watching the attack on TV.  Thus, it was a farce, as was the entire, hollywood-type production. 

As has been the entire production by the Obama entourage.

Major media articles, such as the link referenced by heterochromatic, are typical of major media productions.  Such media shill for the current USGOV, which is continues the GHWBushSr Patriot Act, the fraudulent war on terror, and the clan represented by those who worship the israeli flag on the AIPAC flagpole.

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By heterochromatic, November 25, 2011 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

dog, that report traces back to words from Gilani….and there’s nothing other than
his words ascribed to anonymous Chinese diplomats…...here’s the original story
that got repeated…


http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?
option=com_content&view=article&id=370105&catid=35

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By blogdog, November 25, 2011 at 1:45 am Link to this comment

Obomber’s rhetoric is most likely a rebuttal of China’s response to the public
tongue lashing the US gave Pakistan after last spring’s OBL snuff theatre
wag-the-dog production:


China warns the U.S.:
“Any Attack on Pakistan Would be Construed as an Attack on China”

by Anna Mahjar-Barducci
May 27, 2011 at 4:30 am

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2152/china-warns-us-pakistan

For some analysts, the killing of Osama bin Laden could be used as a pretext by
Pakistan and China to start a new war against the U.S., which they accuse of
having violated Pakistan’s sovereignty. China would apparently like to gain
global economical, political and military prevalence over the U.S.; whereas
Pakistan would like to ally with China to free itself from its economic
dependence on the U.S., and find backing for its rise as a regional power vis-à-
vis India, its historical enemy.

“Any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China,” Beijing
recently warned the US. After the Abbottabad operation, in which Osama bin
Laden was killed, Pakistani Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani’s visited China
from May 17 – 21, 2011. His trip was hailed by the Pakistani press as a new
historic landmark in bilateral relations, and interpreted as a sign of the
progressive breakaway between Pakistan and U.S.

The Pakistani government resented the U.S. raid in Abbottabad, and turned
immediately to Beijing to seek shelter under the wings of the communist
regime. Now China threatens the U.S. should a similar event occur in Pakistan
again. The threat is backed by China’s nuclear capabilities, which include
intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) that can target both Europe and
United States.

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By Archie1954, November 24, 2011 at 9:36 pm Link to this comment
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What a bunch of wusses the Australians are. Imagine giving a foreign country the right to station a military force on your own land. How treacherous is that? Gillard should be tarred and feathered and ridden out of Canberra on a rail.

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By Shenonymous, November 24, 2011 at 12:38 pm Link to this comment

Your madness, drbhelthi, has emerged fully blown.  You have now
entered the babbling stage.

Do I care what you think?  Nnnnoootttt really!

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By heterochromatic, November 24, 2011 at 12:12 pm Link to this comment

drb—Insiders have written that Ben Gurion sealed the assassination of JFKSr with
his approval—

  insiders have written that Osame bin Laden was really the assassin of JFK and
that he was working with Pope John XXIII who approved the assassination of JFK on
June 6, 1963…..via a long-distance call.

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By drbhelthi, November 24, 2011 at 11:46 am Link to this comment

@Shenonymous
“The Emerging Arab Response to Iran’s Unabated Nuclear Program, the article is
most revealing. “

The “most revealing” element is the propaganda contrived by the forces inside the front cover.  An accurate summary is presented by the following sentence, lifted from another source: “An Iranian bomb would threaten the security and stability of regional neighbors such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt. “

Saudi Arabia is a creation of George H.W. Bush Sr.  Egypt is now ruled by an
oligarchy of soldier leadership trained by the U.S. Army War College.  The
oligarchy has an umbilical chord leading to the Pentagon, which has an umbilical chord leading to Homeland Security, which has an umbilical chord leading to the “White House.” 

The occupant of the White House approved the amplified Patriot Act.  The
amplified Patriot Act enables Americans who dispute White House policies to be
classified as Homeland Terrorists.  The occupant of the White House established a
secret panel to decide which persons who are labelled as Homeland Terrorists are
to be assassinated, ignoring constitutionally-required judicial procedure.  One
such identified person has already been assassinated.  Meanwhile, militarized police forces are now gaining experience by practicing on OWS participants. 

Israel, with its two hundred thirty nuke devices, is the only “nuke power” in the
geographical region, and is “fighting tooth and nail” to retain its “nuclear
superiority”.  The GHWBushSr entourage paid four million U.S. dollars to each
witness who fraudulently testified against Muammar Ghadaffi at the Lockerbie
trial.  The intensity of the resistance by Saudi Arabian and Egyptian “leadership”
against the alleged “nuclear device program” of Iran will predictably vary.  As the GHWBushSr entourage (Obama) “sweetens the pot” of Saudi Arabian and
Egyptian leadership, their loud-mouthing against Iran will increase as bribery
increases.  (What has the “World Court” undertaken against the GHWBushSr
entourage-bribed witnesses and GHWBushSr ?) 

All of which is distracting from Israel´s continued destruction of Palestine and its
citizenry, and Israel´s continuing to deceive the world with the Israeli nuclear
program, WHICH HAS NEVER HAD a valid inspection by the International Atomic
Energy Commission.  The deceit was initiated by Ben-Gurion in 1961, insulting the
graciousness of John F. Kennedy, Sr., who made serious concessions to Ben-Gurion on the initial inspection of the French-provided, nuclear reactor.  Insiders have written that Ben Gurion sealed the assassination of JFKSr with his approval, after JFKSr demanded a complete inspection of the Israeli facility, which Ben-Gurion said must not be permitted.  Approximately twenty, super-rich persons, essentially oil moguls, had drawn up the tentative murder plan.  “Gideon´s Spies The Secret History of the MOSSAD” is a very revealing volume, and cites numerous, revealing references.

The only “unabated nuclear program” in the world, is that of Israel.

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By James Housel, November 24, 2011 at 11:42 am Link to this comment
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

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By heterochromatic, November 24, 2011 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

drb——how do you know where I live?  if you did, maybe you would know that we
bought our house for $55k

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By Shenonymous, November 24, 2011 at 10:29 am Link to this comment

From 2006 http://www.nti.org/e_research/e3_83.html the Arab
world has responded with much concern about an Irani nuclear
program. The Emerging Arab Response to Iran’s Unabated Nuclear
Program, the article is most revealing. 

Those far left-wingers who want to dismiss it are acting like the
perennial ostriches with heads in the sand.  Bulletin of Atomic
Scientists http://tinyurl.com/7h7ld8n  “Why Arab leaders worry
about Iran’s nuclear program,” article by Tariq Khaitous | 23 May
2008 speaks about their concern, “Syria, which supports the Iranian
nuclear program because of its strategic alliance with Tehran, Arab
governments disapprove of Iran’s nuclear pursuits, commonly
believing that Iran is using its civilian nuclear program as a pretext
to develop nuclear weapons.” 

More recently, however, are
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11709428
Q&A: Iran nuclear issue, which is clearly telling about the situation and
The Daily News, Arab world fears a bloody internal showdown, Tuesday,
November 15, 2011 by Mehmet Ali Birand at http://tinyurl.com/cy5kzrd

It is clear Americans don’t have to say anything, at least not yet.

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By drbhelthi, November 24, 2011 at 10:19 am Link to this comment

@Shenonymous
” You force a coalition so you can make a bigger target to mouth off your
usual insane accusations. “

Insane accusations ?
It would work better if you genuinely understood some of the terms you toss
around, as though you knew what they mean.  Using diminutive terms as a
form of scapegoating simply reflects the flailing of ones mental arms in
space, for lack of substantive refutation.

The matching of parallel thoughts that demonstrate a pattern, is not exactly
“forcing a coalition.”  It is simply displaying two parallels that fit the same
pattern.

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By moonraven, November 24, 2011 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

Will you parrots stop nattering about Iran?!

I doubt that anybody except this poster has even BEEN to Iran (and I only to Kish Island since I carry a US passport) and most couldn’t find it on the map, nor has the faintest glimmer of its history.

Give us a b reak, pollies, and gobble a cracker—after all it’s Celebrate Genocide Day.

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By A. Benway, November 24, 2011 at 9:48 am Link to this comment
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China? It’s possible. Right now, however, massive carrier group just off Syrian coast as Russia unloads Russian anti-ship missiles in Syrian ports and has three warships in or near Syrian waters. There’s a mutual defense treaty between Syria and Iran, so Iran’s the target. The question really isn’t policy - that’s obvious - but whether or not a fight will take place. It’s not a reasonable prospect to fight China directly - it’d be suicide for both States. But the Empire has a course laid in by atropos, as does China, so there will be some kind of conflict - let’s hope it small, eh?, the threshold for a nuclear winter is, the experts say, about 100 “gadgets” ...

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By Shenonymous, November 24, 2011 at 9:44 am Link to this comment

”Nor have I found verifiable evidence that the world of Islam is
planning to overtake the world,”
  I agree.  There is none except
the hint of Iran developing an unnecessary nuclear weapon arsenal.
But we all should ignore it.  It is meaningless.  So meaningless that
the rest of the Arab world is concerned.  The West should not pay
any attention to it.  Does drbhelthi want to be “in the zone” where
Iran not only tests their weapons but where they will use
them to show their power? 

Your fictional alignment between heterochromatic and myself is
senseless. You force a coalition so you can make a bigger target to
mouth off your usual insane accusations.  Don’t you have anything
better to do with your life? 

I still agree there is no evidence of an Islamic conspiracy to “take over”
the world.  Nor overtake it either, far as I can tell.

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By moonraven, November 24, 2011 at 9:42 am Link to this comment

Oboma suddenly wants a war with ANYBODY!

Why?  Because he still believes the old tired tale that war is good for the economy.

Maybe it WAS 70 years ago when FDR sucker-punched the US into WWII by allowing the attack on Pearl Harbor.

But now, when the US couldn’t win a war against the Marshall Islands, pretty damned doubtful that it’s good for anything except the Pentagon and the defense contractors.

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By Zeitgeist, November 24, 2011 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

Obama is the darling president of the bankers . Dominanace in the Asia region means
dollars will rule the global economy . All commercial deals would be quoted in dollars
and dollar becomes the international legal tender . This means American bankers
make money in manipulating currency exchange rates interest rates and commission
rates . The bankers are the looters, the modern pirates who bring money to America
like Sir Francis Drake plundered the spanish gold to fatten the royal coffers of Elizabeth
the first of England . No wonder then that the government is happy to continuemto
permit the bankers to take away their share of the loot by way of hefty bonuses and
sky- scraping salaries while the 99% are in the pangs of joblessness and
homelessness. What do the bankers who have no social responsibility care? The
politicians are skilled orators who know that they can corner the votes of the 99% by
their glib oration , peddling promises and raising false hopes in tye hearts of the 99% ,
come election time ! Whatever that is it’s important for the USA to maintain their military
superiority over both hemispheres of the entire globe, not for land, not for trade and
commerce, but for taxing trade and commerce taking place all over the globe by any
one of any nationality .to take their ” cuts ” ,” Protection money ” ,was a mafia term
carefully not used for a similar activity of an honorable nation .  The way the bankers
exploited the Americans , if it had happened in any other democracy , the banks would
have got nationalized , but such a thing is unthinkable in America. The banks get bailed
out by public money when they fail but when the banks reap excessive profits that’s
shared by it’s august share holders only ! When the banks fail , the public takes the
rap , when the banks gain , the public is left to wonder where the gain goes to hoarded
into tax havens . The strength of the Euros, GBP , of the U S Dollar flows from the
barrels of the American Gun.  You can tolerate the growth of nuclear arsenal in the
world but you can’t allow any other currency to raise their ugly heads in the world
against the US Dollar. That’s what the American and European and Great Britain
bankers are for , to see to it. with the help of the US military..    Got the picture ?   
Have a gun , you can loot a bank . Have a bank , you can loot everyone !

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By hofat, November 24, 2011 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

Is it the intention of the adminsitration to rattle the sword?  Is it politics to ‘play tough’?  Couldn’t think of a more effective way of making Hu Jintao and company roll in the aisles with laughter than having Barry and Julia Carbon Tax Gillard shaking their fists.  Oooooooooooooooo!

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By drbhelthi, November 24, 2011 at 4:27 am Link to this comment

@heterochromatic
“- thank you so much for calling that to our attention”

“- our attention” ?
I have seen nothing on Truthdig to suggest that you speak for anyone but yourself, while some refute your posts.  Although you and Shenonymous team up nicely, usually.

Your “we” and “us” and “our” reflect your self-appointment.  It is interesting how AIPAC totem-pole worshippers display their feeling of superiority.  Personally, I only provide verifiable information with related opinions, and do not claim to speak for anyone else on Truthdig.  Whether Truthdiggers agree with me or not, all seem to be quite capable of speaking for themselves.  Nor do most of them live in a neighborhood of houses whose value approaches or exceeds one million dollars, as does your neighborhood.  Which, tends to place you on the lower edge of the “1%” instead of the “99%”. 

Nor have I found verifiable evidence that the world of Islam is planning to overtake the world, using Obama or any other CIA operative, such as the one who organized the “protest” in Egypt, who demonstrates confusion about ones religious beliefs.  Crossing from the Islam of Indonesia to the religious community of Rev. Wright displays versatility, yet reflects basically confused, religious values. 
If any exist. 

Your schism is always interesting to read, especially when a bit of truth slips in with your AIPAC totem-pole propaganda.

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By Michael Turton, November 23, 2011 at 11:46 pm Link to this comment
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It sure would be wonderful if people actually did
their homework before writing on this issue.

I have a backgrounder at DKOS on the issues here.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/25/913315/-The-
Coming-Hegemonic-Conflict(s)-in-East-Asia?
via=blog_747493

Fundamentally, China claims the territories of
nations that the US has defense treaties with, Japan
and Philippines. It also claims Taiwan. Under the
weird Cold War lens that people are using to inspect
US actions, any US response to shore up its allies or
build new alliances is an act of imperialism, but any
new Chinese claim (the Chinese recently moved their
claim close to Palawan province in the Philippines)
is ignored.

For years the US did nothing even though regional
governments—even Hanoi!—were begging the US to
get involved. They need a counterweight against
Chinese aggression and expansion, and the only one is
the US navy.

As a lifelong progressive, it’s painful to watch
leftish people argue that the democracies that have
emerged in East Asia (sure, often against US
opposition) aren’t worth defending.

The smart move for the US would be to terminate its
wars in the Middle East and focus on Asia, the region
of tomorrow.

Michael
http://michaelturton.blogspot.com

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By Robert, November 23, 2011 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
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In this case China is more likely just an excuse to militarily lock up Australia’s Primary resources for exploitation by US corporations.
Australia politically was shifting to conserve primary resources in the mining sector for long term use by future generations of Australians. This did not sit well with US Corporations who want to exploit it all now, driven by nothing but greed and ignoring future need.
There is a huge push on to reduce US military spending and that means shutting down overseas US bases. So that means focusing forces where they return the greatest value, primary resources and in that means largely Australia and of course Indian ocean access to Africa.
Every where else in the region high populations severely limit foreign exploit ability of resources.
So China is nothing but the bogey man, the false threat to justify a US military occupation of Australia (the Australian right wing opposition party wants a second US military base).

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By heterochromatic, November 23, 2011 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment

drb——“Obama” probably does not want a war with China.

He is only following the direction of his handlers.—-

yeah, you might be right. there is ample evidence that Obama is a double-
secret Islamist and part of the world-wide conspiracy to rule the world in the
name of Allah.

and yes, it’s quite possible that Obama’s Islamist overlords are forcing him into
supporting the attacks ingoing in China to remove the Han from power and set
up Islamic states in the parts of China where the Muslim population lives,
probably as a prelude to dominating all of Asia.after that they plan to have
Obama help them dominate the universe.

thank you so much for calling that to our attention.

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By JDmysticDJ, November 23, 2011 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment

A few more articles like this one and they’ll be asking truthdig to return the Webby Award.

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By Mary Atherton, November 23, 2011 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment
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I was thinking that China needs some bases in the Caribbean.  Maybe to fly drones over the USA, looking for Tibetan and Uighur terrorists.  How could we object, since we understand that all rules of law and war are suspended when hunting terrorists.

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By drbhelthi, November 23, 2011 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

@Shenonymous-Heterochromatic

“Obama” probably does not want a war with China.

He is only following the direction of his handlers.

That´s why they placed him into the position.

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By Shenonymous, November 23, 2011 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

Obama doesn’t want a war with China, it is preposterous and typical
Right-Wing Republican LyingRomney-CupOfTea crap to insist he
does.

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By heterochromatic, November 23, 2011 at 11:15 am Link to this comment

——-Why then does he now want a war with China?——-

Because it’s the RIGHT THING TO DO !!!!!

We have too many nuclear weapons and rather than just dismantle the things, it’s
much more cost-efficient to use them to obliterate the Chinese and that portion
of the national debt.

In this time of leanness, let’s honor our Pilgrim ancestors with a bit of “Waste
them, want not”

—————


the previous jive makes about as much sense as Pfaff’s question.

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By Shenonymous, November 23, 2011 at 9:57 am Link to this comment

Political blindness is a real pathology. MeHere, Nov.23 9:41 am
– there is no way a third party would win the presidency in the
US.  (only possibility is Bernie Sanders who while an Independent,
is really a Socialist Democrat, and push me/pull you votes with
Democrats in Congress.)  So we are left (pun) with the lesser of the
two evils until the American people get off their duff and elect true
liberals. Responsible Democrats are busy working on it. Obama is
not as weak as you and other Right-wingers make out.  He’s been
busy picking up all the trash the Republicans garbaged on the floor
of government.  One by one, like bowling pins, he has been knocking
them out of the water.  A tough ride f’sure, but he’s doing it.
http://3chicspolitico.com/president-obamas-accomplishments/
The Democratic Party is the Party for the People.

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By MeHere, November 23, 2011 at 9:41 am Link to this comment

For years, I’ve been concerned about the constant vilifying of China that goes on in this country. The public elects leaders who keep promoting the illusion that the US is always #1 (in everything) and, to that end, the creation of enemies and the use of force are essential. How many Americans and others may die and suffer in the process seems to be appallingly irrelevant to our voters. This is a crime against peaceful coexistence.

Working for peace can be just as hard or harder than working for war, but which is a more intelligent option?  Don’t bother to ask Obama this. He is a very weak but ambitious man who is set on inflicting another presidency of his on the nation.
He’s trying to show that he is tough. Peace doesn’t have a chance with either one
of the two parties in control.

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By balkas, November 23, 2011 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

personal supremacists, who at this moment rule much of
americas, asia [save china, vietnam, cuba, venezuela] ?all of
afrika/europe, need badly feindschaft [enemy- or foe-hood
or foe-ship] with china, cuba, vietnam, venezuela, et al.
btw, der feind and fiend are both of germanic origin, i think;
however, fiendship or fiendhood just doesn’t ring well; while
feindschaft does—to me, anyway.

and why, you may ask? go ahead, and answer your own
question.
here’s mine: what personal supremacists fear above all else is
an ideology which we may choose to call “asupremacism”.

[btw, there are only to ideologies which we can develop to
their ends: supremacism and asupremacism.

there is a reason [and quite justifiable] why i often avoid
calling personal supremacists “fascists, capitalists, sybarites,
plutocrats, democrats”, republicans, and asupremacists
“communists, socialists”.

maintaining or lessening/augmenting feindschaft; especially,
against asupremacists lands, is used to keep the serfs
permanently frightened, at loss what to think/what questions
to ask, too scared TO KNOW/DEMUR/PIPSQUEAK, too
sheepish; too obedient to the masters of people, war/peace,
health care, jobs, banks/money.

perhaps also to wage wars against them, but are frightened
[tho extremely willing] to that, because [surely, i say] they’d
lose $trns in profits if they’d dare attack even iran let alone
china.

ain’t gonna happen in decades for iran and never against
china.
however the very utile tool wld always be used. it always
works wonders!! tnx

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By Ata Finetush, November 23, 2011 at 9:30 am Link to this comment
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The assumption that what Barky “wants” has any material relationship to policy is nonsensical - sorry Bill! Such ideas are common, and commonly silly. Barky’s a client, not a primary actor. As to “why?” the looming China conflict - that’s obvious, but very discomforting. It’s because Empire, the “logic of empire” dictates that when empires cease to expand, they die. Actually I suspect that there will be war with Iran - and that while Iran will be ruined the injury to the Empire will be fatal, thus no war with China. Still, I’ll own to the idea that the outcome from violence is impossible to predict.

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By Roger Lafontaine, November 23, 2011 at 9:04 am Link to this comment
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They all think that this is WWII and they’re Winston Churchill. Anybody that says otherwise is Neville Chamberlain. We’ve been reliving this fantasy for almost 70 years now. There’s a new Hitler behind every bush and the Holocaust is just around the corner. War is always the answer. Only traitors and fools try to make peace.

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By David J. Cyr, November 23, 2011 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

QUOTE, William Pfaff:

“Why Does Obama Suddenly Want a War With China?”
_________________

There’s nothing “sudden” about the Corporate States of America (a now wholly owned subsidiary of the nation-state transcending global market-state) waging perpetual war. Corporatism is an insatiable cancer mindlessly determined to exterminate all of its human hosts.

Obama is just the current corporate party manufactured interchangeable part POTUS facilitating the continuation of the continuum of corporatist global conquest and containment that’s been feasting upon this planet for several centuries… with this being the century of its final stage of metastasis… its (and our) terminal stage of existence.

What makes it appear “sudden” is that Obama moved a knight (Marines) to g5 (Australia), and then, without waiting for China to take its turn, immediately moved his queen (Field Marshall Clinton) to e6 (Myanmar).

Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:

http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=498&Itemid=1

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By Shenonymous, November 23, 2011 at 1:15 am Link to this comment

An Aussie friend of mine gave me his take on the American/
Australian alliance that it is just another “Holy Grail.”  He thinks
it could be political suicide to meddle with it and that it is purely a
political ploy.  The incumbent Labor Party is in decline in popularity
all the while the Opposing Liberal/National Party is not any better.
But since Labor has been in control for some years it is the law of
averages they will be soundly due for a drubbing.

The Alliance is viewed by too many as insurance for protection for the
Australians.  He recounts that prior to WW2 it was the same, but the
bondsmen then were was British. As with most such insurers, however,
when the claim for payment came, they reneged.

Apparently Winston Churchill told the Labor Australian Prime Minister,
“The Motherland must be protected even if that means keeping
Australian troops in Europe, allowing the Japanese to take Australia.”
adding rather dryly, “When we have defeated Germany, we can then
retake Australia.”  Oh yeah…  The Oz PM (Oz is slang for Australian)
ignored him and those troops were the ones who, relieving the
conscripts who had held the Japanese at bay in New Guinea turned the
tide on the Kokoda Track inflicting the first defeat the Imperial army had
from their initial incursions in China in the 30s.

Oz friend says he has no doubt that the US would probably come to
Australia’s aid if things got bad, but only if it was in America’s interests
so to do.  He thinks the move has its downside in that it does nothing to
reassure the entire country.  The Australians see themselves as an
Asian/Pacific nation, not a European one in the East.

To speak of war with China so quickly is kind of reactionally irrational
rhetoric. Obama’ has promoted optimism and has encouraged increased
co-operation and friendship between the two nations. Chinese
organizations have expressed positive reactions Obama and are
particularly impressed with his commitment to revising the American
climate change policy.  It is noticable that Greenpeace published an
article detailing how his victory would spell positive change for
investment in the green jobs sector as part of a response to the
financial crisis that has the world in chaos. 

Obama is not given due credit for his action in this area.  These things
take time though and Americans are are often paralogical.  If Obama was
wanting a war with China, one has to wonder why he would in the name
of the US have proposed in early 2010 a $6.4 billion arms sale to the
Republic of China.

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By Marshall, November 23, 2011 at 12:50 am Link to this comment

How does putting a base in Australia = war with China?  Methinks the author’s
reach precludes his grasp.

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By prisnersdilema, November 22, 2011 at 10:08 pm Link to this comment

I wonder if China will loan us the money to have a war with them, after they loan us the
money to have a war with Iran…?

Or maybe instead of a war they could just stop loaning us money and watch us go belly
up?

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By REDHORSE, November 22, 2011 at 8:47 pm Link to this comment

“—-we listened to the Generals every goddamn word-
  how many ways can you polish up a turd—left-left-right-left—-”

            HELL BROKE LUCE—T.Waits

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By balkas, November 22, 2011 at 7:03 pm Link to this comment

oh, yaz, u.s has, in addition to obtaining
resources, another reason to fight china [but
probably not in decades]: for prevalence of
supremacist ideology.
and u.s and other supremacist land have already
waged wars for resources and for eradication of
asupremacism and also strengthening ‘religions’,
cults, sacerdotal class of people.

aggressions against korea and vietnam were
about obtaining resources and to free ‘religion’ in
those lands. those wars were, thus also
ideological and not just conquistadorial.

however, u.s or u.s/nato, it seems, had not
expected chinese intervention on behalf of
nonsupremacists.

and u.s had to have used a-bombs to win the war.
truman, luckily for us chickened out and sued for
peace. tnx

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By Glendon Wayne Toews, November 22, 2011 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment
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Scarcity Sir is a myth perpetuated by Monopolists. Pumping up fear of the Great
Gear or Asian Scare is another useless tactic.

We are all one people.

The 99% are starting to catch on.

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By IMax, November 22, 2011 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment

How does someone, anyone, write a column .about the possibility of a China-U.S. war with barely mentioning China?

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By Blueokie, November 22, 2011 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment

Like all right wingers Pres. Wall Street Puppet is showing his resolve to keep the
world safe for the Corprotacracy’s colonial holdings.  I wonder if the Nobel Prize
has a recall option?

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By gerard, November 22, 2011 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

Cheer up!  We’ve still got another 89 years to go on that famous “American Century”—“make no mistake about it” (pointing index finger de rigeur).

And to think:  This is the same country that has produced all those tens of thousands of wonderful young people in the Occupy Movement who are shaking their elders awake. (If you want to read something really worthwhile, look up nycmarch2DC and accompany the people who trudged and trudged and trudged from New York to Washington in the interests of the 99% who sat at home and wondered what they could do to help.)

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By Anarcissie, November 22, 2011 at 5:16 pm Link to this comment

My theory is that the U.S. anticipates getting kicked out of Japan and Korea, and possibly Taiwan as well.  In that case, the diminutive military presence in Australia would serve as the ‘advance guard’ of a significant retreat.

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