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Why Anita Hill’s Testimony MattersPosted on Oct 28, 2010By Ruth Marcus I was in the room 19 years ago when Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas testified about things I never imagined I’d hear discussed in public, no less before a congressional committee. The atmosphere was charged, the details sordid. Some people in the room believed Hill’s graphic account. Others credited Thomas’ vehement denials. But I doubt anyone present shared my colleague Kathleen Parker’s reaction: “She may have told the truth, but so what?” So many years later, with memories faded even if emotions still run high, it’s worth explaining why this matters. First, if Hill told the truth—and I believe she did—Thomas’ behavior went far beyond raunchy remarks or mild flirtation that Hill ought to have shrugged off. Indeed, if you believe Hill’s account, Thomas himself recognized how far across the line he had gone: “He said that if I ever told anyone of his behavior that it would ruin his career.” Second, if Hill told the truth—and Parker acknowledges that she may have—then Thomas outright lied. There is no way to square their testimony. You could imagine a world in which Hill related how offensive Thomas’ behavior felt to her and Thomas said he had no clue she was taking it that way. But Thomas’ blanket denials left no room for that middle-ground possibility. Hill testified that three months after she began working for Thomas at the Department of Education’s civil rights office, he started to ask her out. “I was very uncomfortable with the idea and told him so,” Hill testified. “I thought that by saying no and explaining my reasons my employer would abandon his social suggestions. However, to my regret, in the following few weeks, he continued to ask me out on several occasions. He pressed me to justify my reasons for saying no to him.” Advertisement Hill explained that when Thomas was tapped to become EEOC chairman, she chose to follow him for several reasons: Thomas’ “offensive behavior” seemed to have stopped; she cared about civil rights work; and she didn’t have another job. Then, the conduct resumed: “The comments were random and ranged from pressing me about why I didn’t go out with him to remarks about my personal appearance,” she said. “He began to show displeasure in his tone and voice and his demeanor and his continued pressure for an explanation. He commented on what I was wearing in terms of whether it made me more or less sexually attractive.” Hill said Thomas’ discussions of pornography and the pressure to date him “made me feel sort of helpless in a job situation because I really wanted to do the work that I was doing.” Eventually, Hill said, she left for a new job, “in large part because of my desire to escape the pressures I felt at the EEOC.” Should Hill have complained to a higher authority? “I may have used poor judgment early on in my relationship with this issue,” she told the Senate. “I was aware, however, that telling at any point in my career could adversely affect my future career.” If this sounds like a “so what” situation to you, please explain what your reaction would be if you found your wife, your daughter—or yourself—in this predicament. Then there is the uncomfortable topic of perjury. In his famous “high-tech lynching” statement, Thomas allowed for no possibility of an innocent misunderstanding. He testified “unequivocally, uncategorically, that I deny each and every single allegation against me today that suggested in any way that I had conversations of a sexual nature or about pornographic material with Anita Hill, that I ever attempted to date her, that I ever had any personal sexual interest in her, or that I in any way ever harassed her.” To acknowledge that Hill may have told the truth is to accept that Thomas may have lied—repeatedly and under oath. If Hill testified truthfully, Thomas committed perjury. And this seems, even now, like a pretty big so what. Ruth Marcus’ e-mail address is marcusr(at symbol)washpost.com. © 2010, Washington Post Writers Group New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By Paco, November 1, 2010 at 9:00 am Link to this comment
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Is it too late to impeach Thomas?
So long as he is in office it is not too late - in fact he can be impeached even after leaving office so as to deny him retirement and other benefits.
However, if the Republicans take over control of the House this is not the impeachment we are likely to have. Instead, Obama will be impeached or threatened with impeachment for whatever the Republicans can dream up, perhaps for having a defective birth certificate or for not being born in one of the thirteen original states.
Report thisBy drbhelthi, November 1, 2010 at 8:27 am Link to this comment
The example of Carl Rove takes precedence. When the
U.S. Congress permits Carl Rove to piss away its order
to testify, of what value is the US Congress?
Carl Rove was simply a “tool” of his string-pullers,
continues to use his intelligence to avoid the truth,
while his string-pullers continue to shield him from
accountability. This will change.
In the case of Anita Hill, she is a bit late, unless
Report thisall she wants is publicity.
By pacrat, October 31, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment
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Is it too late to impeach Thomas? I recall watching the entire hearings and couldn’t believe it when he was approved. Who says that there is justice amont the Justices?
Then what? He just clams up - never speaks in court - just out of it at improper times and places.
Report thisBy jsper, October 30, 2010 at 11:36 am Link to this comment
I’m delighted to see someone remember the Anita Hill case. I had been at home recovering from surgery during that whole disgusting debacle, and watched the ‘trial’ on TV. The condescending attitude of our, now, vice president, Joe Biden; the awful way in which Anita Hill, clearly telling the truth, (what reason did she have to lie after all) was treated by that all male panel of chauvinists…..
Report thisBy the way, look at other Republican appointed African American spokespeople.. The conflicted Juan Williams? .. Who by the way, had told me that ‘Clarence Thomas is good folks’ when I expressed to him, horror at the witch hunt taking place…
Uncle Toms all!!
Best Wishes!
By Synman, October 30, 2010 at 6:23 am Link to this comment
Confirmation hearings were a cakewalk back then as compared to now, although patisanship trumped ethics both then and now. Sexual harrasement wasn’t quite so main-stream back then either. If “Long Dong Silver” (Uncle tommy-Clarence Thomas) pulled that shit today his career would be over. He’s stupid, but not that stupid unfortuneately; still without doubt, one of the worst ever to serve on the SCOTUS.
As 50Gigs says, it’s about hatred of women, but it’s also about fear, and conservatives fear everything! That’s why they are such cowards. That’s also why they are such control freaks, who live to tell everyone else how to live. Clarence loves his job for just this reason, and for the same reason is soo unfit for that job! May he drop dead soon or at least get busted humping a minor!
Report thisBy tomd67, October 29, 2010 at 6:52 pm Link to this comment
WriterOnTheStorm should know that Supreme Court justices can be and have been impeached for various offenses, real or imagined; and although none has been successfully removed by impeachment, at least one (Abe Fortas) was forced out because of a financial scandal. Article III of the Constitution says that they hold office “during good behavior,” which gives latitude for impeachment on a variety of grounds.
Report thisThat said, I don’t imagine that Thomas’s possible perjury during his appointment hearing will cause him to be forced out of office.
By WriterOnTheStorm, October 29, 2010 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment
Why Hill’s testimony no longer matters:
Once you’re in the Supreme Court club, only death can force you out.
Report thisBy SarcastiCanuck, October 29, 2010 at 9:40 am Link to this comment
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Isn’t there a statute of limitations on bullshit in America?Guess 19 years isn’t long enough.I think at this point in time there are only two positive conclusions that can be made from this melodrama.1)Clarence Thomas wanted to get it on with Anita Hill.Wow what a surprise,a horny man….2)Anita Hill wanted national fame so much she was willing to air an embarrassing situation on network t.v. for the whole world to see.
Report thisThe obvious questions are still the same.How kinky is one of the countries supremy’s?Does this impact his decision making on important moral issues?How much did Ms.Hill’s ambition outweigh her sexual virtue and self esteem?Why did she wait until Mr.Thomas’s nomination to the supreme court to mount her harrassment case?
Does it make any difference at this point in time?No…Does it satisfy our need for a seedy,sordid and sexual scandal among the rich and famous.Oh yeah,baby.Can’t wait for ‘Monica Lewinsky the Directors Cut’.
By connorlarkin, October 29, 2010 at 8:33 am Link to this comment
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Clarence Thomas’ actions now and then are an analog of Bishop Eddie Long’s full
Report thisexploitation of vulnerable targets.
By WarrenMetzler, October 29, 2010 at 7:58 am Link to this comment
I wasn’t sitting in the hearing room, as was Ruth Marcus, but I watched much of
it on television. To me the most telling testimony was the dean of the School of
Law of Oral Roberts University; where Anita Hill taught after she left her
association with Clarence Thomas. He reported that Clarence Thomas visited
the university, and before leaving had breakfast with the dean and his wife; AND
Anita Hill, who the dean invited, knowing nothing about what Anita then
claimed had occurred. He reported that Anita accepted the invitation, appeared
to have a good time, AND offered to, and did, drive Clarence to the airport;
which SHE NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE, if what she testified at the Senate
hearings had taken place.
Further, Clarence testified, and Anita NEVER denied, that while he was
supposedly doing all those terrible things to her, she repeatedly allowed him to
drive her home after work, and come up to her apartment to visit. Something
she NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE, if Clarence had been acting as she claimed in
those hearings.
It was obvious to me at the time, that liberals, especially feminists,
automatically assumed Anita was telling the truth, just because she was a
woman and Clarence was a man; not at all because Anita’s testimony was
presented with a tone, voice quality, and body posture mannerisms that
indicated she was telling the truth. All of her demeanor, to me, obviously
indicated she was lying, out of a personal agenda; based on what she
considered to be numerous past insults. Not necessarily done by Clarence, but
by many men, and Clarence was the fall guy.
There was nothing about that hearing, quite partisan on both sides of the aisle,
Report thisthat remotely came close to providing an environment where truth was sought.
It is literally impossible, solely based on the testimony that was given, to
determine who told the truth. Only those who have developed discernment can
tell that.
By FiftyGigs, October 29, 2010 at 7:52 am Link to this comment
“Because we’re living in a Post Democratic Party Country.”
Obviously. That’s why there’s so many Democrats around.
In fact, we’re living in a post Republican Party country, where the party of law and order, of Lincoln enlightenment, of devotion to Christian principals is degenerating into a force corrupting our most fundamental institutions and values.
They do not know simple geography, much less thoughtful principle.
Standing against this corrupting force is the Democratic Party, unfortunately dependent for effectiveness on the contribution of people who believe horrendous acts committed against women “don’t matter”.
Report thisBy C.Curtis.Dillon, October 29, 2010 at 3:21 am Link to this comment
Thomas’ behavior is entirely consistent with the conservative mindset. Look at the number of religious conservatives who’ve been caught in compromising sexual situations. The list is long and distinguished. David Vitter, of DC madam fame, is expected to win another term. So why should we be surprised when Thomas denied he’d done anything wrong or that his conservative friends supported him. Hypocrisy is the conservative’s middle name.
Report thisBy G.Anderson, October 29, 2010 at 12:36 am Link to this comment
Try to understand something for a moment Ruth. What you say what you think, what you write has no value anymore, except of course it’s value to you, and the others like you that you happen to piss off.
Why? Because we’re living in a Post Democratic Party Country. And that means the end of Liberalism and Progessive politics as a meaningful political force.
So whether or not Clarence Thomas said something horrendous to Anita Hill, really doesn’t matter. It may have mattered at one time, but not now. It’s like the bloody spot on the highway that marks a traffic accident that happened 20 years ago.
And why is this? Because above all else progessive politics needs to create victims, and in doing so they have turned this whole nation into a vast wasteland of victims.
There will be mourners, but to continue with that is to live in the past.
And so what is Anita Hill, but another victim in a country full of victims, because progressives lack political will. And conservatives, will do absoulutely anything to retain political power.
You need to rethink your poltics, it’s over.
Report thisBy SoTexGuy, October 28, 2010 at 10:09 pm Link to this comment
“He said that if I ever told anyone of his behavior that it would ruin his career.”
Another example of Thomas not knowing what the heck he’s talking about!
She told and he was not ruined.. He was confirmed as a Supreme Court Justice, not too shabby. And even yet rules over us all in overt and covert ways that will dis-color our lives and freedoms for as long as we exist as a nation.
The perversion of our system of judicial and administrative appointments and confirmations to (short term) political grandstanding and goals is anathema to our republic… on the other hand Thomas, Scalia and now Roberts were, it seems, chosen for their long term roles (Example: keeping Bush, Cheney and their compadre thugs out of jail if ever the Democrats were to grow a pair).
All the ‘little stuff’ (like the Hill testimonies) mostly diverts any real inquiry into the history and qualifications of the judge-to-be. So we get a sort of public lashing of the candidate for things that, in the grand scheme, don’t especially matter.. and then feeling cleansed, we all swallow the poison pill.
Adios!
Report thisBy FiftyGigs, October 28, 2010 at 10:07 pm Link to this comment
Even further, what does it say about the conservatives who championed him then, and all the time since then?
Uninformed? Incompetent?
That’s the BEST that can be said.
Modern American conservatism harbors a deep-seated and extreme animosity toward women. It’s revealed in the action of conservatives like those at Operation Rescue. Their drive to “save babies” so completely bypasses all consideration of the mother that she is invisible in the issue.
There is only the self-righteous, who assume for themselves the sole determination of who matters.
It isn’t power. It isn’t control. It’s the darkest imaginable hatred for women, femininity, and female sexuality. Republicans say it themselves. They are the party of the angry male.
Quite.
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