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Who’s Afraid of Rand Paul?

Posted on May 18, 2010
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Flanked by family members, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul raises his arms to the cheers of supporters at his victory party in Bowling Green, Ky., on Tuesday.


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By Robert Scheer

Tuesday’s election results were pretty good for progressives. The retirement of that windbag chameleon Sen. Arlen Specter is long overdue, and pro-labor forces were able to push Sen. Blanche Lincoln into a runoff in Arkansas. Even the big tea party win in Kentucky has its bright side.

Count me as one lefty liberal who is not the least bit unhappy with the victory by Rand Paul in Kentucky’s Republican primary for the U.S. Senate. Not because it might make it easier for some Democratic Party hack to win in the general, but rather because he seems to be a principled libertarian in the mold of his father, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, and we need more of that impulse in the Congress. What’s wrong with cutting back big government that mostly exists to serve the interests of big corporations? Surely it would be better if that challenge came from populist progressives of the left, in the Bernie Sanders mold, but this is Kentucky we’re talking about.

Rand Paul, like his dad, is worthy of praise for standing in opposition to the Wall Street bailout, which will come to be marked as the greatest swindle in U.S. history and which was, as he noted on his website, an unconstitutional redistribution of income in favor of the undeserving rich: 

“Federal bailouts reward inefficient and corrupt management, rob taxpayers, hurt smaller and more responsible private firms, exacerbate our budget problems, explode national debt, and destroy our U.S. dollar. Even more importantly, any bailout of private industry is in direct violation of the Constitution. It is a transfer of wealth from those who have earned to those who have squandered.”

Of course the joker in the deck is the word principled before libertarian, and, as many online commentators have noted, Rand Paul is a bit more inclined to waffle on an interventionist foreign policy than is his father. While he would have insisted on a declaration of war before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq, he argues that Afghanistan, where the 9/11 attack was planned, was a legitimate target but that Iraq was not. In either case, as he insists correctly, a congressional declaration of war was constitutionally required:

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“If I had been in the U.S. Senate I would have stopped them and said no more, we will have a vote. We will declare war with Afghanistan. We will declare war with Iraq. I would have voted for a declaration of war with Afghanistan but I would have voted against a declaration of war with Iraq. But I would have made them vote. And that’s the problem, they no longer pay attention to the rules.”
In any case, his Republican establishment opponent, Trey Grayson, attacked Paul for his opposition to an interventionist foreign policy as well as for favoring the legalization of marijuana, and on both counts it is a good sign that Kentucky voters rejected those lines of attack.

True, to wax warmly about a potential Republican libertarian senator is an act of desperation for a liberal who still hopes that the federal government might be moved by the embattled band of progressive Democrats in Congress to put the power of the federal government at the service of the needy. But when has that happened recently? With a commanding Democratic majority in Congress and a former community organizer as president, the focus of economic policy in this time of enormous economic pain has been on saving the bankers who created this mess. 

With the Democrats trusting our well-being to the likes of Lawrence Summers and Timothy Geithner, who under President Bill Clinton did so much to enable Wall Street greed, would it not be good to have at least one Republican senator questioning the Washington spending spree? Yes, Rand Paul is bad on a lot of social issues I care about, and no, I don’t embrace his faith in the social compassion of unfettered free markets. But the alternative we have experienced is not one of a progressive government properly restraining free-market greed but rather, as was amply demonstrated in the pretend regulation of the oil industry, of government as a partner in corporate crime. It is the power of the corporate lobbyists that is at issue, and it is refreshing that candidate Paul has labeled Washington lobbyists a “distinctly criminal class” and favors a ban on lobbying and campaign contributions by those who hold more than a million dollars in federal contracts.

Heresy, I know, but it is only thanks to Ron Paul, the father and hopefully the mentor of the potential Kentucky senator, that we got a congressional mandate to audit the Fed’s role in the banking bailout. How bad could it be to have another irascible Paul in the Congress? 


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By teensanook, May 26, 2010 at 2:06 pm Link to this comment

Rand Paul is the man…..don’t forget to help spread the word of his friend Peter Schiff…...he’s getting the shaft from the establishment like the other Tea Party candidates…he’s clearly way more qualified then anybody then Washington economically.

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By jay1953, May 25, 2010 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind

Mr. Costa’s has completely sabotaged this thread. It was a great thread.

Mr. Costa seems almost pathological and I tend to think that Mr. Costa surfs from discussion board to discussion board until he eventually gets banned from incessant serial postings that don’t add anything of substance to a civil discussion. On the contrary he behaves as rabid lunatic.

Without personally knowing Mr. Costa I can not help but to come to the conclusion that he exhibits pathological behavior. His behavior here has been nothing short of compulsive sometimes posting numerous times in a row with no responses.

Mr. Costa’s posts lack substance, only canned and trite slogans, shallow sound bites and one liners seemingly with the objective of provoking ire from the participants here. That combined with insults to further demonstrate an intolerant mindset similar to those exhibited by religious fanatics.

This obsession, seemingly motivated by an anti-social mindset, is mostly motivated by hate of those that disagree with him.

To make this point we can scratch the surface by simply examining Mr. Costa’s profile where we can definitely identify a compulsive and obsessive pattern.

Assuming that Mr. Costa hasn’t changed his handle because of being previously banned we can see in Mr. Costa’s profile that Mr. Costa joined this board on May 05, 2010 at 10:46 PM. That would be 20 days ago. As of May 25, 2010, 12:25 PM Mr. Costa has 510 posts. That’s an average of 25.5 posts per day. And today is not over yet. If that’s not obsessive and compulsive I don’t know what would be.

As tolerant individuals we can definitely tolerate some of the deviant behavior because we are human and not perfect. So sometimes we may deviate but most of us will correct course. It doesn’t seem to be that pattern for Mr. Costa, on the contrary he started out fine and has gotten progressively more deviant with no attempts at toning down down the hateful rhetoric.

When patterns like the one Mr. Costa is exhibiting becomes chronic, with no signs of abiding by protocols of civility, the owners of the boards should put a muzzle on these individuals.

I’ve seen many good discussion boards go out of existence because of a few bad apples like Mr. Costa who basically take over the thread in such a manner that those participants who come to these boards for meaningful discussions and exchanges will eventually stop coming in to post their views. Eventually the board will die. I would be very sad for this board to die because of a few bad apples.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 25, 2010 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Jay, don’t worry.
Mr. Costa’s patterns of personal attacks and insults, combined with deliberately clogging threads to prevent discussion makes me suspect the mgt will soon be communicating with him….

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By jay1953, May 25, 2010 at 6:05 am Link to this comment

The world according to Eugenio Costa.

Socialism is admiring the Castro Revolution. This makes you Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you don’t admire the Cuban Revolution according to the prerequisites of our friend Mr. Costa then you must be a Gusano. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

Its only okay for Mr. Costa to use canned epithets, its not okay for anybody else without running the risk of being labeled a racist by Mr. Costa.

If you believe that the Castro Revolution is a dismal failure then you must also believe that the sole purpose the US invaded Panama was to stop cocaine trafficking. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

To Mr. Costa Socialism means blind admiration for Hugo Chavez. This makes you Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you don’t admire Chavez then you must be an American capitalist imperialist pig. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

Is Socialism also unquestionable admiration for Stalin? Mao? The Khmer Rouge??? If yes, you can be Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you think Yassir Arafat was a terrorist, that makes you a Zionist. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

If you think that Menachem Begin was a terrorist you must be a Jew hater. This makes you Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you admire Ariel Sharon, you must be a Zionist. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.


If you admire Albert Einstein, you’re back to being a Jew lover again. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

If you like Palestinian President Abbas, you’re back to being a Jew hater. You’ve become Mr. Costa’s friend, again.


All Arabs hate Jews, all Jews hate Arabs.
In Mr, Costa’s little pathetic world. This belief will put you in total ideological agreement with Mr. Costa so therefore you can become his friend.

All Americans are racists, all racists are Americans. This belief will put you in total ideological agreement with Mr. Costa so therefore you can become his friend.


If you like single payer health-care, you must be a Marxist. This makes you Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you like having money so you may have a good standard of living then you must be an capitalist pig. This makes you Mr. Costa’s enemy.

If you were against the invasion of Iraq you must be a terrorist sympathizer as defined by Bush. This makes you Mr. Costa’s friend.

If you believe that Saddam Hussein was a homicidal sociopath, you must be with Bush and therefore an American imperialist pig. Oh wow! Now Mr. Costa must really hate you. You’re definitely his enemy.

If you think that Che was a sociopathic serial killer and a failure in every undertaking he initiated on his own, then you are Mr. Costa’s vile enemy.

On the other hand if you think of Che as a saint then Mr. Costa will be your friend for life.

The list of absolutes in Eugenio Costa’s narrow and ignorant worldview just goes on and on.

For example; you can’t believe that US war in Iraq was a criminal act and at the same time believe that that US programs on combating AIDs in Africa was extremely successful from a humanitarian point of view. No No No he can’t accept both of those truths and keep his sanity, which I doubt he really has.

According to the world by Eugenio Costa you either hate the US or love it. As an extremist he can’t see faults with his position only in the position of those that don’t agree with his extreme views. Similar to others on the right side of the political spectrum. There is no middle ground for Mr. Costa’s pathological hate. Reason would short circuits Mr. Costa’s little brain because it is too profound a concept for him to comprehend. 

Yes my friends, our poor little friend Eugenio Costa lives in a world of absolute extremes. So he is living proof that the lunatic fringe not only exists on the right, the lunatic fringe also exists on the left of the political spectrum.

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By jay1953, May 25, 2010 at 5:05 am Link to this comment

Mr. Costa, long on the insults, short on the substance.

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By jay1953, May 25, 2010 at 4:24 am Link to this comment

And Mr. Costa still with his head up his ass. Living in a little pathetic world of absolutes.

Apparently you don’t know the realities in Cuba. The better medical care you refer to only exists in medical facilities that cater only to the party elites and medical tourists. Hospitals that cater to Cuban citizens are lacking in the most elemental basics such as anesthesia, basic medicines and hospital beds. You even have to bring your own bedsheets and pillows when you do find a hospital bed. If your hospitalized in Cuba you have to have your family members cater your meals because the hospital does not provide them. Say what you want but this is the reality of the Cuban health-care system. In concept its wonderful and their “show” medical facilities are among the best in the world. Unfortunately if you don’t have dollars or euros you don’t get in. 1950s Cuba even though it did not have a nationalized health care system access was readily available and affordable even more so than here in the US.

I might also mentioned that Cuban workers by law were entitled to 1 months paid vacation prior to 1959.

As regards to the literacy: According to the United Nations, the rate of literacy from the period of 1950-1953, the latest data available, shows that Cuba had a literacy rate of 76%, 4th behind Argentina 87%, Chile 81% and Costa Rica 79% respectively.

As of 1995 Argentina and Cuba ranked 1st at 96%, Chile and Costa Rica tied for 2nd at 95%.

What is also significant is that literacy rates throughout Latin America increased nearly proportionately to the top 4 countries mentioned.
Paraguay from 68% to 92%, Colombia from 62% to 91%, Panama from 72% to 91%, Ecuador from 56% to 90, Brazil from 49% to 83%, Dominican Republic from 43% to 82%, El Salvador from 42% to 72%, Guatemala from 30% to 56%, Haiti from 11% to 45%. So the average gain of literacy rates for these countries was 25.4%. Cuba was below that average at 19%.

So that brings us to several conclusions.
1. Cuba’s literacy rate was already high in the 1950’s compared to the other top literate countries in Latin America at the time so the gain would have had to be less than other less literate countries that had more significant gains without a Castro style Revolution.
2. Which leads us to the next obvious observation that Cuba would have had similar and significant gains in literacy without a Castro styled Revolution.
3. Castro admirers always cite literacy as one of the triumphs of the Revolution but as we see the statistical data doesn’t support this myth.

As far as longevity a similar analysis to the one I expounded on literacy will bear out the increase in longevity rates are statistically sync with other Latin American countries.  So I won’t go through the exercise since with my previous exercise I believe the point is made.

As to the US economic embargo, blockade to Cuba, doesn’t account for the failure of the Cuban economy that according to Castro it was to be self sufficient. In addition US policy can not be used as a scapegoat for economic failure since Cuba has no restriction of trade with the European Union, Latin America, Canada, China and a host of other countries except the US and maybe Israel. So the US embargo argument doesn’t hold any water. Cuba’s economic problems has its roots in that most countries will only accept cash payment from Cuba because of Cuba’s track record of defaulting on their external debt. So it is more a matter of having bad credit.

As to Cuban doctors to Haiti, that is true. But you also have doctors for oil deal with Venezuela. Doctors that are not allowed to go to Venezuela with their families for fear of defections.

So even though I subscribe to many socialist and progressive fundamentals I don’t believe that the Cuban model is one that anyone should attempt to emulate. Overall the Cuban model is a catastrophic failure.

Don’t try to monopolize the term socialism by making it synominous with communism.

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By Anarcissie, May 25, 2010 at 4:11 am Link to this comment

Eugenio Costa, May 25 at 8:24 am:

‘The revolution has begun.’

So, why aren’t you out organizing it?

I’m pretty sure Lenin doesn’t want you to just sit there all day posting one-liners to proggie web sites.

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By Anarcissie, May 25, 2010 at 3:49 am Link to this comment

ITW—It is kind of weird to see Rand Paul swear a loyalty oath to Israel.  If you are at all familiar with libertarians you will know that they tend strongly to be isolationists and non-interventionists in foreign policy matters.  Their individualism is strongly at odds with collectivistic talk such as that about special bonds between nations.  Presumably Paul, who was daring enough to question the sacrosanct Civil Rights law, was gotten to, and one would like to know how.

This is not a matter of blaming Israel for things.  It is a strange phenomenon which deserves investigation.

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By Inherit The Wind, May 25, 2010 at 3:11 am Link to this comment

Yet again, a thread turns into nothing but diatribes against “Those evil Zionists”, once again re-hashing the old stereotype that Jews are behind all the evil in the world.

After all wasn’t it the Jews’ fault that Hitler thought them SO evil he had to wipe them out and start World War II?

And the focus of ALL evil is Israel.


And then when I say those that say this and bend every thread to this are anti-Semitic Jew-haters, I’m dismissed as nothing but a “rabid Zionist”.

Hypocrites, all of you.

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By Dean Taylor, May 25, 2010 at 1:54 am Link to this comment

“If God is real, real in some unknown form, why would God create such men?”


Say you’re kidding—even of you weren’t, lie and say “it isn’t so Serpico.”

I am thou, love one another, forgive your enemies, you without sin cast the first
stone, love mercy, etc.


the word that you’re looking for is “narcissism,” i.e., a SELF-imaged menace…

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By Eugenio Costa, May 24, 2010 at 3:48 pm Link to this comment

“The United States Special Relationship with Israel

By Dr. Rand Paul
Candidate, United States Senate

Israel and the United States have a special relationship.  With our shared history and common values, the American and Israeli people have formed a bond that unites us across the many thousands of miles between our countries and calls us to work together towards peace and prosperity for our countries.

The free trade agreement that has existed, and been subsequently strengthened, between our countries since 1985 is a tremendous mutual benefit. As a United States Senator, I would work against the growing protectionist sentiment in our country and defend free trade with Israel.

I would never vote to place trade restrictions on Israel, and I would filibuster any attempts to place sanctions on Israel or tariffs on any Israeli goods.

The issue of Palestine is incredibly difficult and complex.  The entire world wishes for peace in the region, but any arrangement or treaty must come from Israel, when she is ready and when her conditions have been met.

I strongly object to the arrogant approach of Obama administration, itself a continuation of the failures of past U.S. administrations, as they push Israel to make security concessions behind thinly veiled threats. 

Only Israel can decide what is in her security interest, not America and certainly not the United Nations.  Friends do not coerce friends to trade land for peace, or to give up the vital security interests of their people.

As a United States Senator, I would never vote to condemn Israel for defending herself.

Whether it is fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon, combating Hamas-linked terrorists in Gaza or dealing with potential nuclear threats in the Persian Gulf, Israeli military actions are completely up to the leaders and military of Israel, and Israel alone.

It is not the place of outsiders to meddle or pass judgment or to use our power or relationship to force Israel to go against her own interest for the sake of “peace.”
Peace is a laudable goal.  But it is just that – a goal.  It is not an end at any cost.

It makes no sense to me that the United States provides Arab countries hostile to Israel with $12 billion in annual financial and military aid. Many of the weapons that Israel would face in a Middle Eastern conflict would have come directly from our government. I find this appalling. In the Senate, I would strive to eliminate all aid to countries that threaten Israel.

Finally, Iran has become increasingly bellicose towards Israel. Thankfully, Israel has one of the bravest, most elite military forces in the world. I would never vote to prevent Israel from taking any military action her leaders felt necessary to end any Iranian threat.
Just as the United States would not follow the will of another country in the face of our national security, we shall not limit the options of Israel in this area.

Finally, I believe the United States should increase the pressure on Iran.  I would mandate that all publicly managed investment funds divest from Iran immediately. 

We should not be subsidizing any company that does business with Iran, and we should not allow U.S. companies or those with funds from U.S. taxpayers to enrich Iran through its national energy program.  I would fight to end all subsides to American corporations that do business with Iran, including so-called renewable energy companies that work through Brazil to provide support to Iran and empower its dictators dangerous nuclear saber rattling.”

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By PatrickHenry, May 24, 2010 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

Re: Lenin Award, May 24 at 2:59 pm #

“What is immoral to most is only justice to others. Consider this, if Israel possessed over 200 nukes over 18 years ago, what do you think they have today? Hush, hush, top secret.”

It’s not Israel having nukes which is disoncerning, its their readiness to sell them to others.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons

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By garth, May 24, 2010 at 1:18 pm Link to this comment

Ah! I see. It’s not about RAND PAUL. 

It’s about you and me and Lenin and Mordechai Vannunu.

Here’s what’ll happen:  Rand Paul and his “mispeaking” will be the low water mark for this tide of Republicanism.

You keep asking for it and intelligent Americans will give it to you, later this year.

Stress interest in localism as Justice Scalia does.  Emphasize low taxes as Norquist does.  Take away their rights in the name of Free market Capitalism, and, you know what, it all eventually falls apart.

To you,

As my Italian neighbor who I used to run errands for used to say, “AMF.  Adios mother-fucker.”


My Advice:

Get back to Rand Paul instead of this non-sensical diversion.

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By garth, May 24, 2010 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment

Lenin Award,

I think you spelled it for me.

No matter what Mordechai Vannunu, or you for that matter, think of me, Mordechai did an heroic act.  If Israel is about to be pushed into the sea by all those evil, non-judaeo-Christian Arabs, then why do they hide (ha ha) the fact that they have nuclear weapons? And why does the US continue to try to bully Iran into stopping its development of nuclear power? 

An Israeli General was reported to have said that if Iran is not building a nuclear bomb, they are crazy.

I read, I learn and I change my opinion based on the facts.  But I’ve never been an evangelist.  If Lenin was for Justice then I thank you for the award.

In the spirit that you meant it by giving me the Lenin Award, I bestow on you the Grover Norquist Salutation for being consumed by American Free Market Capitalism.  Just lower taxes and all will be well.

Good luck, Charlie.

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By garth, May 24, 2010 at 11:03 am Link to this comment

Mr. Vannunu:

I heard on this morning’s DemocracyNow! that you were back in the slammer.

I mean this in a good way.  In the following quote, You make about as much nonsense to complete circle of reality and make honest to goodness sense.

“All the fake passports and murders just rub
some people the wrong way. You can bet the
thousands of bogus “diplomats” in NYC will
be planning some payback, as usual. (What do you mean by this, bogus “diplomats” in NYC?)

My passport and my wife’s were stolen a few years back.  Right out of the bedroom dresser. 

“Guess it all stems from free-floating anxiety
from the holocast and an upbringing of hate and
revenge justifying bogus semites claiming the right to do anything they care to do.”

I don’t think free-floating anxiety has anything to do with it. I think the people holding the purse strings do whatever they do and sit down for martinis or a glass of white wine.

If you want to accuse me of anti semitism, I’ve been down that road before and it leads absolutely nowhere.

It did the first time, however, when I realized that anti-semitism, like racism, is a black hole of emotions.  It doesn’t lead to anything enlightening and it lies there like a dead horse.

The world will soon wake up to the notion that we are not all human, though.  Some are born into a world where the rule is:  You are the ultimate individual.  It’s all yours.  If you want it, take it.

I pray for your early release, and that you can be reunited with your significant other and that you can get back on Truthdig.  Hey, wait a minute, you are on Truthdig.

Boy, whoever you are, posing as Mordechai, you’re onto me.  I guess you know your fools when you see them. 

But, Mort, I know this for sure, there is no such thing as a perfect fool.

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By garth, May 24, 2010 at 8:28 am Link to this comment

I just heard Rand Paul cancelled his appearance on one of Sunday news talk shows after appearing on an earlier show and saying that Obama should lighten up on blaming BP, and that coal mining disasters are accidents and sometimes shit happens.

Rove called Paul’s campaign and told them to advise Paul to knock off the interviews, that he’s getting too much exposure.

That’s funny.  I know just about all I need to know about him right now.  I think Kentucky voters have the sense not to vote for this weasel. 

Adolph Rupp the racist basketball coach at UK for years thought he’d just walk right into a Congressional position after retiring from coaching. 
He didn’t win the election because of illness.  The people were sick of him.

I heard that the real Mordechai Vannunu is back in the hoosgow in Israel.

See what a few phone calls will do.

Just kidding.  I love the guy!

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By Night-Gaunt, May 24, 2010 at 7:55 am Link to this comment

Well Sara Palin has defended Rand Paul so he must be good now. Anyway he can still get elected if enough people in his state believe in the world the way he does. (What an unhappy thought.) Economic Libertarians are cruel people no matter how much they say they are not. Their philosophy promotes it and Rand Paul should know that. Wishing/praying will not change that.

Most Republicans and many Democrats believe that too along with economic “investment” by our tax money to keep them alive no matter how many times they fail.

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By garth, May 24, 2010 at 6:45 am Link to this comment

Mort,

I am a recovering American.  When you peek behind the curtain and see what has been going on, things just don’t seem the same.

I first heard about you on DemocracyNow! and I thought, “What courage.  That information should change things for the better.”

I am listening to Amy right now.  She’s interviewing Bill McKibben at Tufts, and he just said that this is not the Age of Information, it’s the Age of Lack of Information. 

I think that is what you suffer from.

Answer me this, dildo, did your girlfriend have to hold your hand and walk you work every morning because you were so afraid to go in?


I think your ignorant behaviour sheds a poor light on Amy Goodman and her choice of stories to cover. 

If you had any brains you could be nasty, but I think you were better off in solitary confinement.  As my uncle, the antique dealer, used to say to me after dealing with a moron like you, “It ain’t easy.”

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By Money is funny, May 24, 2010 at 1:11 am Link to this comment

Worth mentioning,

I did not get it but I am taking notes and will be looking into it.

Movies to watch and books to read list is getting good.

(The pope has a funny hat)

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By ofersince72, May 24, 2010 at 12:49 am Link to this comment

Money , it wasn’t you

Dave got me really good, it was funny, but i believe
at the time i deserved it. 
If you don’t see it, I won’t mention it.

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By ofersince72, May 24, 2010 at 12:32 am Link to this comment

Dave, that’s simple, they use the racist tag just like
the anti-semite tag.
I believe it is somewhat odd they use that with
Alex Jones.

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By archivesDave, May 23, 2010 at 11:31 pm Link to this comment

Ofersince:
I absolutely agree with u on the Right/ Left issue, and that includes the Marxists, Socialists, Progressives, Conservatives and Libertarians.
Anyone who is hip to ‘Zeitgeist’ events, etc, knows who
the true enemies and Puppetmasters are.
Amazing how those movies have been observed by over
fifty million people but how few ‘intellectuals’ dare
to even discuss them along with the research of Icke, Maxwell, Alex Jones, and Hagger.

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By Money is funny, May 23, 2010 at 11:22 pm Link to this comment

i.e. ofersince72
No disrespect intended towards you.

Love and respect.

(putting a sentence at the end of a post in parentheses gives a dramatic effect)

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 10:58 pm Link to this comment

Well guess I did get somewhat nauseous this weekend
apologies, sure didn’t mean to come off “ad hominem”
if I did,  don’t recall attacting anyone personally.

I probably should not be on these blogs anyhow, they
are a who is best, Dems or Pubs blog and I see no
future for our nation with either.  I am sure I ran
that through way more than I needed too.

P.S.  I damn sure don’t consider myself a genious
and you can tell that I am not !!!
But get somewhat obnoxious at times without realizeing
until I get bumped on the head..thanks, needed it.

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By Money is funny, May 23, 2010 at 10:37 pm Link to this comment

Eugenio Costa comments are very provocative. I have to admit that I am not informed enough to properly respond to some of his concerns. I’d say that there is at the very least room for improvement in what we are calling “Capitalism” here and I find my myself in agreement with many of his statements even though they tend to be surrounded by insults.

Am I a “Communist” ?
Am I a “Socialist” ?

Is there a “Black list”

I am scared.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 9:24 pm Link to this comment

Dave,  I had that one coming,
touchee

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By archivesDave, May 23, 2010 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment

Ofersinse72:
Don’t worry, there’ll always be lots of hayseeds out
there to take up the slack.

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By garth, May 23, 2010 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment

Mort,


The USA is not Israel, yet.

We do have laws and the reaction to Arizona’s racism shows it.
BTW
I think that using someone’s name and image without the person’s consent is illegal.

You might want to consider that, you morooon.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 7:31 pm Link to this comment

They say vegetable seeds are starting to get scarce.
order now ...for next year !!

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By archivesDave, May 23, 2010 at 7:15 pm Link to this comment

M.V:
Makes sense, along with a ‘censor/delete button’:
Especially for those making sophomoric ad hominem attacks.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 6:43 pm Link to this comment

you have to give it to ole Dick Durbin though…

he was right blunt about the situation

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By archivesDave, May 23, 2010 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72:
Agreed; if Bush were in there right now, the Dems would have had the gallows up after the first week and hunting for Cheney as well.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

Those Dems should have never made fun of
Bush’s Katrina response like they did…

they’re paying deeply now !!

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment

these ponderments makes one
wantoforgetaboutit..butucant

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment

It also seems that they may have tried the bunker
buster fix.  The riser is all under sediment now,
like the sea floor collapsed..

If that is what happened I sure hope it worked,
if it didn’t , there will probably be no more live
video feeds.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment

Mordechai,  I don’t believe on could have picked a
braver soul,  thank you for flashing that braves man’s
face.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

Well I see Eugenio hasn’t done a line of his diarrhea serial postings in over an hour. I guess he went to stuff his face in the belly of the beast.

I’m not worried though, when he gets an upset stomach from whatever he went to eat at Taco Bell he’ll be back and not even Imodium Multi-Symptom will slow him down. We will see his shit posted all over this board once again.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 4:27 pm Link to this comment

Everyone,  I hope this is just rumor

but I have heard that the caseing has blown and
it is a volcano now..

I sure hope this is rumor..

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

By Eugenio Costa, May 23 at 7:27 pm #

Debate,Gusano? You must be debating yourself.

Poor pathetic little boy. Your entire ideological mindset and ideological beliefs is based on shallow bullet points and slogans. I refuted your pathetic argument with facts based on UN data backed up with eyewitness accounts.

So its not that you won’t debate me. You know that you can’t refute me. So you do what a hypocrite will do, like a cornered rat you resort to name calling and excuses. You’re a chicken shit. You don’t have a leg to stand on. You’re simply not up to the challenge.

What a disappointment.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment

Eugenios Costas Simpleton Black and White World

Following is Eugenio’s worldview.

Socialism is admiring the Castro Revolution. If I don’t admire the Cuban Revolution according to the prerequisites of our friend Eugenio then I must be a Gusano.

I believe that the Castro Revolution is a dismal failure so therefore I must believe that the US invaded Panama to stop cocaine trafficking.

Socialism admiring Hugo Chavez. If I don’t admire Chavez then I must be an American capitalist imperialist.

Socialism is loving Stalin? Mao? The Khmer Rouge???

I didn’t like Yassir Arafat, that makes me a Zionist.

I didn’t like Ariel Sharon, so I must be a Jew hater.

I liked Eistein, so I’m back to being a Jew lover again.

I like Abbas, so I’m back to being a Jew hater.

All Arabs hate Jews.

All Jews hate Arabs.

All Americans are racists.

All racists are Americans.

I like universal healthcare, so I must be a Marxist.

I like having money so I must be an capitalist pig.

I was against the invasion of Iraq so I must be a terrorist sympathizer.

Saddam was a homicidal sociopath, so I must be with Bush.

Yes my friends, our poor little friend Eugenio Costa lives in a world of extremes. So he is living proof that the lunatic fringe not only exists on the right, the lunatic fringe also exists on the left of the political spectrum.

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By garth, May 23, 2010 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

And Rand Paul is not that man.

To show you how little medicine and artful politics have i common, let me mention Senator Coburn of OK, Rep Gingrey of Georgia, and Ron Paul, Rand’s father from Texas.

Ron was asked on C-SPAN if he’d end Social Security, he mentioned an Austrian economist, von Mises, and blah blahed for a few sentences.  The caller interjected with, “You are a tool.”

Doctor Paul, was nonplussed briefly, then slightly angry.

Rand of bygone days wants to reinstitute racism.  Not the type common to the mid-Atlantic states where blacks are conveninently ignored, but the type of experienced in the Deep South.

I Kentcucky, white fraternity brothers used to ride through black neighborhoods and whack young black men on the behind with a broom.

I think that would suit Rand and his clan perfectly.

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By JimBob, May 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment

“Federal bailouts reward inefficient and corrupt management, rob taxpayers, hurt smaller and more responsible private firms, exacerbate our budget problems, explode national debt, and destroy our U.S. dollar.”

Yes, this is so true.  But here’s a parallel: you’re flying at 35,000 feet, cutting the walking distance between Los Angeles and New York down from 4 months to a little over four hours.  Good deal, right?  But it takes some fancy technology. 
Okay, let’s say that fancy technology starts to shut down, as in all four engines are sputtering and putting out dark, greasy flames.  The captain comes on the loudspeaker and tells everyone to prepare to meet their maker.  There’s a lot of screaming and weeping. 
Then a guy pipes up and says he can fix the engines but the passengers are going to have to give him all their money and sign over the deeds to their homes.  Would anyone say, “No thanks, I’d rather die”?  Not likely.  But if the guy kept his promise and fixed the engines by doing some magic that no one really understood, you can damn sure bet that once everyone got back on the ground, there’d be some buyers’ remorse about all that money and those deeds. Grumble, grumble, he didn’t really do all that much, the engines would probably have fixed themselves, grumble, grumble.
Anyone get the parallel?  If the government hadn’t done the bailout we might all very well be killing and eating each other by now.  At the very least we’d be living in a very different world—whereas the one we’re in right now looks a whole lot like the one we had when the crisis started.  So let’s not forget how shit-scared we were and be grateful there was someone on board who knew how to fix what was wrong before the ground came up to meet us, okay?

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By garth, May 23, 2010 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

Now, we get the third person from Mordechai.  Yeah, yeah, we know all that shit about Israel’s lying about the bomb and we know about its atttack on the USS Liberty in 1967. 

But please, tell us more about Socrates and more about the Gypsies.  And would you, like Hitler, target the Gypsies for extermination?

Third person!  And I was looking forward to having a story to tell my grandchildren. 

Unless you are like some of the sports heroes of late.  Like Wade Boggs when asked what he’ll do for the Tampa bay team said, “Well, Wade Boggs will give you 100 hits and 100 runs batted in and a batting average of over 300.”

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

All you Paul supporters out there, they are not
Libertarians,  they are Republicans.

They want to get that Mexican oil, and they are using
you to do it .

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment

Here is what many need to figure out…since you
brought up Omama wanting to pressure Caldephoony
into selling off Mexico’s oil.

All the Immigration debate and drug war debate
is all designed for the U.S. and the Mexican government
to collude to bring U.S. military to responces in
Mexico….then turning over nationalized oil to
foreign oil companies, many in the Mexican corrupt
government will make millions on this…
Americans are too dumbed down to know what is really
going on, most of the Mexicans understand.
They are going to fuel this immigration fire as much
as they can.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:50 pm Link to this comment

A bientot, mes enfants.

The night is young.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:46 pm Link to this comment

And guess what, senores, that Neo-Con Homeland Security Director contracted with an Israeli company to build an electronic battlefield behind part of that wall against Mexico.

Jes’ a small world, ain’t it?

Now ain’t that a strange collection of events and a curious Nexus, Sexus, and Solar Plexus?

Almost enough to explain a Faux Socialist Neo-Con Progressive Democrat’s interest in Latin American affairs.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment

Now that Reverend Hagee, the great Zionist Born Again Fundamentalist, where do you think his HQ is,senores?

Would you believe old San Antonio,Texas hard by the Border Wall against Mexico built by the Neo-Con Zionist Homeland Security director under Bush?

Now that Reverend Hagee, the great Zionist Born Again Fundamentalist, where do you think his HQ is,senores?

Would you believe old San Antonio,Texas hard by the Border Wall against Mexico built by the Neo-Con Zionist Homeland Security director under Bush?

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

And Jeezus H. Christ, Netanyahu gives a speech to Reverend Hagee’s Zionist Christian Fundamentalists in Tel Aviv (just before he schtupped Biden), and now the man is Bible Beating himself over Jerusalem.

That stuff is like mononucleosis—highly contagious.

Course with all Bible-beaters there is the central question: Which Bible are you beating off to?

Probably warn’t the Samaritan Pentateuch.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:32 pm Link to this comment

The Israelis make a life-size Sicariot Dagger replica Letter opener with “Shalom” written on it in Hebrew.

Sort of like a dead giveaway of whole philosophy of life, don’t you think?

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By garth, May 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

Morty,

Funny you should mentiion that.  I just noticed that behavior in my cats.

My cats seem to have more on the ball than you do, though.  At least, they are for real.  They always do what cats do.

How’d you like the sit-ups and push-ups in your solitary confinement, which was imposed on you by your own people?

I wonder if you ran into trouble following directions working as a technician in the Israeli nuclear sites.

Really, does Mordechai Vannunu know that you are using his name and image on this blog?  And is he aware that someone as stupid as you is doing it?

Shalom

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

Especially for women—revolutionary acts that is.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

By Eugenio Costa, May 23 at 7:15 pm #

Pardon, Gusano, don’t debate or argue with Zionist Faux Socialist Gusanos.

Interpretation: double talk that you’ve lost this debate and you really can’t rebuke me. Of course.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:15 pm Link to this comment

Pardon, Gusano, don’t debate or argue with Zionist Faux Socialist Gusanos.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment

“with a finger aimed at the big yellow moon when he noticed one student staring at the finger.”

R.D.Laing really likes that one, wherever he is.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

Calderon,Obama’s buddy, wants to denationalize Pemex and he also wants to sell Mexico’s off shore drilling rights to US oil (US-Anglo-Dutch)

Good way to get yourself offed some fine sunny morning eating your Taco Bell breakfast burrito in Guadalajara.

Guess BP is really crimping his style.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

Eugenio, still unable to refute. Resort to insults when you don’t have an argument. Brilliant.

Apparently you don’t know the realities in Cuba. The better medical care you refer to only exists in medical facilities that cater only to the party elites and medical tourists. Hospitals that cater to Cuban citizens are lacking in the most elemental basics such as anesthesia, basic medicines and hospital beds. You even have to bring your own bedsheets and pillows when you do find a hospital bed. If your hospitalized in Cuba you have to have your family members cater your meals because the hospital does not provide them. Say what you want but this is the reality of the Cuban health-care system. In concept its wonderful and their “show” medical facilities are among the best in the world. Unfortunately if you don’t have dollars or euros you don’t get in. 1950s Cuba even though it did not have a nationalized health care system access was readily available and affordable even more so than here in the US.

I might also mentioned that Cuban workers by law were entitled to 1 months paid vacation prior to 1959.

As regards to the literacy: According to the United Nations, the rate of literacy from the period of 1950-1953, the latest data available, shows that Cuba had a literacy rate of 76%, 4th behind Argentina 87%, Chile 81% and Costa Rica 79% respectively.

As of 1995 Argentina and Cuba ranked 1st at 96%, Chile and Costa Rica tied for 2nd at 95%.

What is also significant is that literacy rates throughout Latin America increased nearly proportionately to the top 4 countries mentioned.
Paraguay from 68% to 92%, Colombia from 62% to 91%, Panama from 72% to 91%, Ecuador from 56% to 90, Brazil from 49% to 83%, Dominican Republic from 43% to 82%, El Salvador from 42% to 72%, Guatemala from 30% to 56%, Haiti from 11% to 45%. So the average gain of literacy rates for these countries was 25.4%. Cuba was below that average at 19%.

So that brings us to several conclusions.
1. Cuba’s literacy rate was already high in the 1950’s compared to the other top literate countries in Latin America at the time so the gain would have had to be less than other less literate countries that had more significant gains without a Castro style Revolution.
2. Which leads us to the next obvious observation that Cuba would have had similar and significant gains in literacy without a Castro styled Revolution.
3. Castro admirers always cite literacy as one of the triumphs of the Revolution but as we see the statistical data doesn’t support this myth.

As far as longevity a similar analysis to the one I expounded on literacy will bear out the increase in longevity rates are statistically sync with other Latin American countries.  So I won’t go through the exercise since with my previous exercise I believe the point is made.

As to the US economic embargo, blockade to Cuba, doesn’t account for the failure of the Cuban economy that according to Castro it was to be self sufficient. In addition US policy can not be used as a scapegoat for economic failure since Cuba has no restriction of trade with the European Union, Latin America, Canada, China and a host of other countries except the US and maybe Israel. So the US embargo argument doesn’t hold any water. Cuba’s economic problems has its roots in that most countries will only accept cash payment from Cuba because of Cuba’s track record of defaulting on their external debt. So it is more a matter of having bad credit.

As to Cuban doctors to Haiti, that is true. But you also have doctors for oil deal with Venezuela. Doctors that are not allowed to go to Venezuela with their families for fear of defections.

So even though I subscribe to many socialist and progressive fundamentals I don’t believe that the Cuban model is one that anyone should attempt to emulate. Overall the Cuban model is a catastrophic failure.

Don’t try to monopolize the term socialism by making it synominous with communism.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 2:02 pm Link to this comment

Not many Mexicans are happy with the US Gusano ambassador to Mexico.

A very obvious insult, except to a Neo-Liberal collaborator like Calderon.

Say, Gusano, how is the weather in Tel Aviv? Hear there is a cold wind blowing in from Turkey.

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By garth, May 23, 2010 at 2:01 pm Link to this comment

For a minute there I was thinking that Mordechai Vannunu was the Mordechai Vannunu, the one who rrevealed Israel’s nuclear weapon secret.  Now, I see from his bluntness that he is is either a fraud or he’s channeling MarthA and her inaability to comprehend sarcasm.

Maybe, just maybe, Mordechai here is an imposter.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment

Instead of helping build their country, Gusanos went over to the enemy for thirty pieces of silver.

Doctors, lawyers, officials, police, restauranteurs, shopkeeprs, pimps, criminals of all types.

Now true enough you cannot blame their children for what they did, so their children are not necessarily Gusanos.

But the US will always treat them as second class citizens.

But the traitors are Gusanos.

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By ardee, May 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

Serginho, May 23 at 3:51 pm #
(Unregistered commenter)

Concur w/ Mr. Scheer re:  Rand Paul.  No need to be afraid of him.  Since the election he has made an absolute ass of himself.  Even the Baggers are trying to eject themselves from him.  Funny, they were fine with him before.  At least until he opened his mouth.

I think you might investigate the early polling data from Kentucky. Paul has a massive lead over his democratic opponent, in fact among registered democrats he garners 38% support…...

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm Link to this comment

Or say, ersatz Socialist Progressive Corporate Fascist Democrat vermin.

No problem in the politest company.

It is the vermin that are the problem, not the word.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:45 pm Link to this comment

It’s a little like, say, Neo-Con maggot.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment

Gusano is a Cuban traitor.

Nothing ethnically or racially disparaging about that, Gusano.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

By Eugenio Costa, May 23 at 5:55 pm #

No quotation of the supposed “disparaging remarks”?

You clueless ideological buffoon. “Gusano” is a disparaging remark to describe Cuban immigrants to the US as much as “Wetback” is to a Mexican.

Eugenio, the funniest thing about you being an idiot is that you don’t even realize it. Keep making a fool of yourself.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

A world of sex-crazed PLANTS.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment

The sixty mile radius around Wilmington, North Carolina—original and ONLY native habitat of—THE VENUS FLY TRAP!

Now ain’t that exotic?

Why is it called Venus? Look closely at a pink one when it is open.

Okay, now 2 + 2 = ?

Watch them flies, boys.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment

Vanunu—truly heroic and the essence of humanitas.

A bit of Solshenitzyn in him perhaps.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:13 pm Link to this comment

Henri di Tonti:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Tonti_Henri.jpg

Don’t want to meet up with this fella on a dark night in a swamp if he ain’t happy to meet up with you.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment

The Iron Hand went over real big with the local Injuns.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:05 pm Link to this comment

First European to set foot in Arkansas?

He had an iron hand, he was a Frenchified Italian, and his father invented the Tontine, don’t you know.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment

And gotdang it, wouldn’t you know they had a philosophy department at Chapel Hill actually knew the works of Lesniewski!

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

Best climate in the US—maybe, just maybe—North Carolina.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

“Trouble is Hilary Clinton’s bosses in Tel Aviv
told her to reject the Turkey, Brasil, Iran
agreement”

Direct hit.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

Except for the Injuns Minnesota is pretty sub-standard too.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

Trouble is Hilary Clinton’s bosses in Tel Aviv
told her to reject the Turkey, Brasil, Iran
agreement

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

Our little Neo-Con Faux Socialist seems to be full of inventions today.

No quotation of the supposed “disparaging remarks”?

One does confess one has never much liked people from Iowa.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment

Incidentally, one etymology for “Gringo” is that it means “Greek-speaker”, as in, “It’s all Greek to me.”

Gusano was obviously chosen because it so nicely detourns Cubano—and rhymes as well.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:43 pm Link to this comment

Capitalism is a world of money-crazed beasts.

EAC

(new one—hot of the press)

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 12:36 pm Link to this comment

Idiocy is believing the U.S. invaded Panama to
stop cocaine trafficing.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

Idiocy is a U.S.  Senator pointing fingers down at
Cuba about political prisoners.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment

idiocy is believing the U.S. has not hurt Cuba.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:24 pm Link to this comment

Look at Japan—the Japanese politely asked the US to remove its bases on Okinawa.

They even elected a new head of government who promised to do just that.

And the answer was….

HAHAHAHA.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment

Pretexts in chronological sequence for war in Afghanistan:

T1: kill or capture Bin Ladin

T2: overthrow Taliban

T3: nation building

T4: drug war

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment

Turkey-Brazil-Iran—the US warmongers still haven’t figured that one out.

They are missing an obvious line.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 11:57 am Link to this comment

US hegemony in Latin America has been a dead duck for some time.

It is a little like NATO, which committed suicide attacking Yugoslavia, and is now a corpse wandering around Afghanistan looking for proper burial.

You are over and done with, Gringos—your goose is cooked around the world.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 11:52 am Link to this comment

Honduras should prove very interesting soon.

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By Eugenio Costa, May 23, 2010 at 11:51 am Link to this comment

Those US bases to leave if asked politely?

What a crock.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 11:06 am Link to this comment

Wonderful we finally agree on something.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 11:02 am Link to this comment

I would like to see Mouckus win.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 10:58 am Link to this comment

By ofersince72, May 23 at 3:53 pm #

The anti-US interventionist have a good chance
winning the elections in Columbia soon.

That will create quite a delemma for U.S. hegmemony
in Latin America wouldn’t you say?

I personally like Antanas Mockus and I think he will win.

Who do you support in the Colombian elections?

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 10:53 am Link to this comment

The anti-US interventionist have a good chance
winning the elections in Columbia soon.

That will create quite a delemma for U.S. hegmemony
in Latin America wouldn’t you say?

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By Serginho, May 23, 2010 at 10:51 am Link to this comment
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Concur w/ Mr. Scheer re:  Rand Paul.  No need to be
afraid of him.  Since the election he has made an
absolute ass of himself.  Even the Baggers are trying
to eject themselves from him.  Funny, they were fine
with him before.  At least until he opened his mouth.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

By ofersince72, May 23 at 3:42 pm #

What was it that one German Nazi said

you control the media , you control the populace
and you keep telling the same lie, over and over again
until it becomes the truth.

Obviously you took that message to heart cause it seems that you have internalized it.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 10:43 am Link to this comment

Our friend Eugenio has exposed himself as a hypocrite.

He criticizes Americans as being racists in another thread and then he too uses disparaging remarks against a group.

Pathetic Eugenio.

You’ve been exposed, your mask has come off.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 10:42 am Link to this comment

What was it that one German Nazi said

you control the media , you control the populace
and you keep telling the same lie, over and over again
until it becomes the truth.

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

ofersince72, May 23 at 3:32 pm #

The next one I will no doubt hear,  is that
America invaded Panama to stop the cocaine trafficing

Now you’re starting to sound like an idiot.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

Has any of that good American Oil shown up on
Cuba’s shores yet,,,,America will play denial with that
tooooooo.  Not our oil spill, don’t know where that
came from….


Hopefully the loop current will keep it away for Cuba
and they will have the only white beaches down there.

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By ofersince72, May 23, 2010 at 10:32 am Link to this comment

The next one I will no doubt hear,  is that
America invaded Panama to stop the cocaine trafficing

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By jay1953, May 23, 2010 at 10:29 am Link to this comment

Right Eugenio, you don’t own the definition of what socialism is. If some one doesn’t agree with all your bullshit then they are righties.

You’re so full shit.

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