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Was Reid Right?Posted on Jan 13, 2010
Sen. Harry Reid’s comments about Barack Obama’s racial profile might seem beside the point to our president. After all, he’s got bigger fish to fry. But it appears that Obama is the only one who is over it. For those late to the party, the Nevada senator’s racial thinking was revealed recently in the book “Game Change,” by Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, in which the authors expose the inner workings of the 2008 presidential campaign from both sides of the aisle. Their most shocking revelation is that Reid said that Obama had the right look and sound for presidential candidacy, “light skinned” and “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” Rather than considering whether Reid’s comments are politically correct—clearly they aren’t—I think it’s more prudent and interesting to re-examine his comments and think about whether he has a point. So, was Reid right? I decided to answer this question by doing some very unofficial polling. Here’s what I learned. Most people I interviewed said that they have “conflicting thoughts.” “Reid definitely shouldn’t have said it,” says Lindsay, a multiracial 30-year-old Democrat in San Diego. Calif. “But, all things being equal, if Obama were the stereotypical African-American male portrayed by the media, then he wouldn’t have won … even if he had the same message of hope and change. So, in that way I kind of agree with Reid. Does that make me a racist too?” Jason, a 33-year-old African-American Democrat from Philadelphia, agrees. “Reid’s words were definitely ‘inartful,’ but he’s the product of his generation’s limited racial vocabulary. I don’t look to Reid for racial commentary. What I and others are looking to him for is health care support. And I think that’s what this is really about.” “There is definitely something else going on here,” says John, a 63-year-old African-American in Boynton Beach, Fla. “This is ridiculous. The goal is not to deal with race, but to discredit Reid, health care and, ultimately, to stop Obama.” He continues, “If I remember correctly, there were lots of other racial incidents that could’ve been equally explored.” John does have a point here, and he wasn’t the only one to raise it. Even Kate, a 22-year-old white Republican from Nashville, says that “Reid isn’t the only one to talk this way about race in public. Didn’t Joe Biden once say that Obama’s the first black ‘smart’ and ‘clean’ guy to gain mainstream popularity?” In fact, that’s true. According to CBS News, Biden is quoted as saying that Obama was “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” Biden now sits in the White House with Obama. Is he a racist too? Advertisement So what is the fuss really all about? For a definitive word on this I turned to Richard, a 42-year-old African-American Democrat and blogger in Los Angeles. “Is the problem he used the word Negro? Or is it something more complex (no pun intended) when he referred to Obama’s skin color?” For Richard the issue isn’t that Reid used an anachronism. He said, “Words such as Negro and colored still exist in our vocabulary. We still have the United Negro College Fund, Negro spirituals and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In fact, we have become so accustomed to identifying these institutions by said names that if we were to update them to contemporary language it would almost seem as if we were being trite for demanding an update.” Yet, Richard told me that he has observed that skin color is another controversy in and of itself. Richard concluded with his overall assessment of the situation: “The only thing I can see that Reid really did wrong was possibly air dirty laundry of many Americans who think this way and now some are attempting to punish him for it.” After listening to these varied opinions, I’m left only with my own. To be blunt, Reid was right and he’s not necessarily a racist. In fact, I see the controversy over Reid’s comments as evidence that some racial progress is being made and that we still have a long way to go. Whether or not we care to admit it, Obama’s persona and status are forcing us to confront the legal, linguistic and socially constructed residues of racism and unequal opportunity with important implications for contemporary race relations. In light of this, I propose that we understand Reid’s comments and the firestorm they sparked as opportunities to start some productive racial, interracial and multiracial dialogue. New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By Jennica, June 20, 2011 at 5:04 am Link to this comment
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AFAIC that’s the best anwser so far!
Report thisBy ciarrai, January 16, 2010 at 8:31 pm Link to this comment
Was Reid right? is one of the more naive questions ever broached on this website. A more apt one would be “was there ever any doubt that Reid wasn’t right?”
Report thisBy Pedro, January 15, 2010 at 9:04 pm Link to this comment
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‘A NATION OF COWARDS’
Off the cuff gaffes which aren’t true gaffes like that of Reid about Obama truly reflected his view at the time. Whether true in reality is another matter which is debatable an there’s no winner there.
However we ‘ARE A NATION OF COWARDS’ on the matter of race in America according to Eric Holder and I agree. A lot of people who would normally agree with Reid’s sincere view will now back off it and tear Reid off in self righteousness and become the cowards that Holders talks about. We know individually our cowardice or truthfulness/honesty on this Reid ‘gaffe’. Reid was right about America.
Report thisBy jerihurd, January 15, 2010 at 11:31 am Link to this comment
The brouhaha exists because a) people, underneath, know he’s right and b) the right are using this, as another poster said, to discredit Reid and destroy the healthcare agenda. By bringing it up..again…you’re helping with that. Drop it, already.
Report thisBy progwoman, January 15, 2010 at 10:54 am Link to this comment
How anyone could expect a Mormon from Nevada to have progressive racial views is beyond me. My guess is he’s way ahead of his cohorts. We don’t like to admit it, but this is still a very segregated society and many, many white people never interact socially with African Americans or any people of color for that matter.
What Reid was assessing was how people like himself would react to Obama, and turns out he was right.
Report thisBy drdawkins09, January 15, 2010 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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SusanSunflower, I think you’re exactly right. This Reid “scandal” is what a friend of mine refers to as “Crash”-itis. In other words, as in the movie “Crash” it’s all just focused on individual interactions with no discussion of systems or structural oppression. Welcome to post-racial America. Scary…
Report thisBy SusanSunflower, January 14, 2010 at 1:28 pm Link to this comment
I live in a conservative area in a conservative state ... where people believe that poverty is a “life style” choice ... that since public education exists, anyone failing to get educated and graduate has only themselves and their parents to blame. end-of-story.
They also—it came up in a book group last year—largely believe that racism is largely a thing of the past, something that minorities raise only to gain “points” or (unfair) legal advantage. Not so funny, the latter was also the opinion many of my co-workers when I lived and worked in a very liberal community.
When Harry Reid says these things it’s A-OK, when presidential candidate Joe Biden says pretty much the same thing, it’s scandalous Biden and H. Clinton are accused of covert (and not so covert) racism but are A-OK enough to be vice president and secretary of state, respectively.
Bill Clinton—whom everyone agreed was waaaaaay out of bounds, is “somehow” the ambassador to an all-black country—Haiti.
My neighbor’s will take this all as their confirmation that complaints of racism are 99.9% bullshit.
An opinion I strongly disagree with.
Report thisBy ThatDeborahGirl, January 14, 2010 at 12:21 am Link to this comment
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Nope, most black folks are over it too. Mainly because it’s true and mainly because Obama doesn’t give a flying fig.
I was flipping past ABC’s morning coffee klatch and they were quoting someone’s little comment that Obama seems to be “playing favorites” with people who make comments like this.
To which my mother & I looked at each other and went, “Well duh.”
Uh, yeah. Obama gets to decide, just like all black folk get to decide, just how much comments that can perceived as insults actually penetrate or require action (if any).
Obama looked at the racist cop that arrested his long time friend and said- uh, you could have done better dude. Obama looks at Harry Reid and goes…eh, I can’t say he kinda has a point but, seriously, I know what he means…no biggie.
And then there’s Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly and crew who mean every mean spirited, bigoted word they utter and get away with it day in & day out. Let’s talk about that for a while, shall we.
Let’s talk about Blagojevich being “blacker” than Obama. Now that’s some racist BS
Report thisBy Harry, January 13, 2010 at 11:11 pm Link to this comment
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Hey HotPunditDotCom! Are you American? Are you living in USA? Please don’t be offended but I think you are one of those kind of guys who thinks every person who speaks Spanish is Mexican. OMG! “I thought Americans were ready for anyone, regardless of skin color or accent.” LOL!
Report thisBy Paco, January 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm Link to this comment
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What?....“I thought Americans were ready for anyone, regardless of skin color or accent”. Something is wrong with that! I’m positive Americans are not ready for anyone regardless of skin color or accent. Talvez los hijos de mis hijos o tus hijos estarán preparados = Maybe my grand sons or your grand sons will be prepared…maybe…hopefully.
Report thisBy SusanSunflower, January 13, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment
For the first 9 months of the Bush Admninistration, I referred to him as the presidential spokesmodel with his lovely wife, what’s her name.
Bush notoriously, to my mind, declared that he didn’t care all that much if he won the election. He’s just as well prefer to go back to his “ranch.” His dream job was being baseball commisioner. Bush “won” in part because he was the guy “you’d like to have a beer with” and in part because the GOP and other “grownups” knew that Cheney (and all the folks at AEI, etc.) had the plans. Bush’s role was to smile and be Marlboro Country family-values reassuring.
I’m not convince that we have not elected another “spokesmodel” in Barack Obama. Yes, he does speak well, particularly in speeches, rather than, for instance, debates.
If Obama had shown a convincing history of advocacy and a real fire-in-the-belly to effect change—in any direction—would he have won? My guess, probably not. After GWB, and compared to the more passionate, less refined Hillary Clinton and John Edward, his GQ coolness seemed to promised “no more embarrassments”—not the guy you’d want to have a beer with necessarily, but a guy who if a doctor, lawyer, etc., you’d trust to be competent and unsurprising. No embarassing “ethinicity” stuff. Post-ethnic identity.
Never cared for him, myself. I was among those who feared a “blank slate” or “Manchurian candidate” who would do what he was told or “convinced” was the prudent course. My expectations—which started out low—grow lower each month.
I’d like him to surprise me—in a good way—next time.
Report thisBy HotPunditDotCom, January 13, 2010 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment
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Reid thought the country was not ready for a dark-skinned person with a Negro dialect to become president.
Your conclusion is “Reid was right and he’s not necessarily a racist.”
Something is very wrong in that conclusion. I thought Americans were ready for anyone, regardless of skin color or accent.
Report thisBy Big B, January 13, 2010 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment
Of course Reed was right. He is a gutless, soul-less asshole, but he was correct. Imagine if Barry was a BLACK man, with a nice fro (like mine, although I am a boring kraut) and an inner city accent. Would he have risen to the heights of american politics?
Not in the America I know.
Racism did not magically disappear in Nov of 2008. As a matter of fact, it just got worse.
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