Newt the historian?  Palestinians are not a ‘people’
because they were once part of the Ottoman Empire?  If
that is the criterion for being a ‘people’ about half
of the known world today would be inhabited by ‘non-
people’ as about half the known world was at one time
part of the Ottoman Empire. 

Freddie Mac, eat your heart out.  You wasted a million
plus bucks on a guy who’s no historian - but he
certainly is a fool.

There are over 43 million Americans on food
stamps; the Israeli promoted war on Iraq and the
invasion of Afghanistan in addition to the
millions killed has cost US 4.3 trillion dollars; the
US economy is in a quagmire; number of
unemployed Americans is estimated to be
around 38 million.

The US’s standing as “the major power” on earth
is declining. The OWS demonstrations speak to a
increasing need to address domestic issues.

Interesting that the GOP candidates stress their
subservience to Israel; abortion, Ponzi schemes;
increasing the number of children in the work
force and nuking Iran.

All of which means that these socalled
candidates are in it just to make money and get
press coverage for inane pronouncements.

What no one mentions is that “what needs to be
put on the table is the helalth and welfare of ALL
Americans first and foremost.

From what I understand, we can’t even get our banking institutions and our corporations to participate in sanctions against Iran, and we continue to buy oil from them to enrich their coffers. Yet, we’re ready to go to war?

BTW, Jon Stewart had segment about the “candidates” (or as I like to call them the crazies) when they addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition Forum. It’s funnier than shit. Enjoy.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/09/jon-stewart-celebrates-miracle-of-gop-candidates-fighting-over-who-loves-jews-more/

Quote: “we are going to work with the world community to prevent that.”

Ahhhh…. a SANE position, how reliving it is to have a SANE person as president.

Remember Bush, “the smoking gun” in the form of a “mushroom cloud”....what a nightmare.

And some folks want to relive the nightmare, how’d the Grinch put it….“you have people put on body suits to walk into a crowded mall to blow themselves up, you better believe they [would] put on a nuclear weapon.”

And Bolton (the supposed choice for sec. of state)...“targeted use of military force,”

Two more heads to be dropped into the basket when the New American Revolution is declared! FREE BRADLEY MANNING AND TIM DECHRISTOPHER(from their confinement in the Amerikan Bastille)!!!!!

I would point out that if Israel launched a nuclear strike on Iran it could very well mean an all out nuclear war. Not only that, but a complete Shiite uprising throughout the Arab world. Even that numb nuts Gingrich ought to know that! Meanwhile Obama and big oil work diligently to start another cold war with China. This nation is ruled by idiots! Party affiliation matters not!

Let’s not forget Santorum either who says food stamps are contributing to the nation’s obesity. Obviously he’s never had to live off food stamps for a month, where the food runs out about a week and a half before the end of the month. Then comes that homophobic cross-eyed ditz of a redhead, Bachmann. In my view, all of the republican candidates are so close in values(or the lack there of) it matters not which one of them might win the nomination. Anyone of them will only enhance the speed of travel on America’s road(if not the entire world’s road) to complete disaster.

Oceanna, December 9 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

Would foreign policy really change with a Republican president?  I believe it would be more
blustery in rhetoric, but the adherence to hegemony would be about the same.

I am heartened to read that there are folks who recognise the silliness of these scare tactics as well as the very small differences between voting democrat or republican.

oceanna,
i also think that syria wld be attacked much before iran. and, yes, there is
only one u.s, one costititution, one foreign and domestic policy and not
two, three…thus only one plan. even a prez’ act in u.s is mostly a
ceremonial/entertaining function.

u.s policy must be fed. it’s insatiable; not allowing american soldier an
hour of peace. the policy, to work on americans, must have enemies and
they can be easily manufactured.

and historical record shows that the euros from day one after coming to
buffalo lands had not enjoyed [or allowed, really] even one hour of peace.
tnx

Would foreign policy really change with a Republican president?  I believe it would be more
blustery in rhetoric, but the adherence to hegemony would be about the same. 

I’d say Syria is next in line for a “humanitarian intervention” through the Sarkozy
government.  I think the approach to Iran would be a pragmatic incursion with
either party.  Taking down a major ally and neighbor like Syria could be part of
that strategy. The objectives for domination would be the same; it’s just that with
one it would be significantly less transparent and involve a more careful
consensus, internationally and domestically.

Pick your poison, either the longer or the shorter-acting.

obama had abandoned the u.s’ structure of language used in order to attack iraq
‘03: war is the last option. at that time [late ‘92] i rewrote it thus: war is the only
option.
the newest one, “we r not taking any options from the table is much clearer. it,
tho, may be a bluff or done to frighten americans.

i still say, u.s cannot at this time or even in decades attack iran openly. and from
obama’s statement, i educe, u.s thinks so, too [if otherwise, u.s wld have not said
what it said, then]
asides this, u.s needs iran very badly as it is now and not much destroyed via war.
and not just iran, but many other manufactured enemies: korea, cuba, venezuela,
pashtunstan, iraq, palestina, etc. tnx

God that picture is super scary!

to keep americans [or at least 95% of them] subdued/somber/frightened, the
system needs more wars, threats of war, demonization of other systems,
evocation of perils if ‘demonic’ systems are not prevented from doing ‘evil’ things
to u.s system.

a system, like the one in u.s, in which the society is ordered in two extremities:
homeless people and people with $billions; resulting in zero or next to zero
political power for, say, 10-30% of the pop, and 100% for billionaires, has to, to
survive and even thrive, keep on doing what had always worked for it to date.

waging wars had always been a great tool of the ruling classes to keep their serfs
obedient, faithful to the system, constitution, ‘laws’; in awe of judiciary, u.s
‘justice’, ‘education’, wmd, army, cia, fbi, etc. tnx

” International pressure has been mounting on Iran since the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency revealed in a report the “possible military dimensions” to Iran’s nuclear activities, citing “credible” evidence that “indicates that Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device.” In his latest article for The New Yorker blog, titled “Iran and the IAEA,” Hersh argues the recent report is a “political document,” not a scientific study, in an interview with Democracy Now! Nov. 21. “They [JSOC] found nothing. Nothing. No evidence of any weaponization,” Hersh says. “In other words, no evidence of a facility to build the bomb. They have facilities to enrich, but not separate facilities to build a bomb. This is simply a fact.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVyNk5S4SHg

“The sanctions have enormous bite and enormous scope, and we’re building off the platform that has already been established. The question is, are there additional measures that we can take? And we’re going to explore every avenue to see if we can solve this issue diplomatically. I have said repeatedly, and I will say today, we are not taking any options off the table.” - Obama

“we are not taking any options off the table”, similar rhetoric from the Obama administration, but I suppose that is unimportant as he is a corporate Democrat.