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Posted on Nov 9, 2010

By Eugene Robinson

Last week, voters made a powerful statement about leadership: They’d like some, please. So far, there’s no evidence that either President Obama or the top Republicans in Congress were paying the slightest attention.

In his only interview since the GOP rampage, with Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes,” Obama was reasonable, analytical, professorial—but also uninspired and uninspiring. I’m just being honest, if not generous; when Kroft asked whatever happened to Obama’s “mojo,” the president gave the impression that he’s been wondering the same thing.

By uninspired, I mean there was no sense that Obama relishes the high-stakes political battles that are sure to come over the next two years. There was no hint, for example, that he looks forward to the opportunity to put Republicans on the spot about all the unrealistic budget-cutting they say they want to carry out. And by uninspiring, I mean that the president offered no vision of a brighter tomorrow. Instead, he sketched a future not quite as dim as the present.

Obama said he has learned that “leadership isn’t just legislation”—that it’s also “a matter of persuading people ... giving them confidence and bringing them together ... setting a tone.” He acknowledged that “we haven’t always been successful at that,” then gave a demonstration.

“Do you get discouraged? Are you discouraged now?” Kroft asked.

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“I do get discouraged,” Obama replied, according to the transcript of the full interview. “I thought that the economy would have gotten better by now. You know, one of the things I think you understand—as president you’re held responsible for everything. But you don’t always have control of everything, right? And especially an economy this big. There are limited tools to encourage the kind of job growth that we need. But I have fundamental confidence in this country. I am constantly reminded that we have been through worse times than these, and we’ve always come out on top. And I’m positive that the same thing is going to happen this time. You know, there are going to be setbacks, and we may take two steps forward and one step back, but the trajectory of this country is always positive.”

Well, it may be unfair, but presidents aren’t allowed to be discouraged. They aren’t allowed to talk about the limitations of the job, or the fact that they are held accountable for everything from inclement weather to the lack of a championship playoff system in college football. Presidents are not permitted to acknowledge familiarity with the concept of “one step back.” And good things aren’t “going to happen,” in the presidential lexicon. They’re already happening.

Maybe Obama will find that misplaced mojo during his trip to India and other points in Asia. But as Rep. John Boehner, the presumptive new speaker of the House, says, it’s the president who “sets the agenda” in Washington. The day after George W. Bush got thumped in the 2006 midterms, he dismissed Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary. A good old-fashioned Cabinet shuffle would be one way of letting voters know that the administration intends to move forward—rather than bemoan having to govern in lousy economic times.

And besides, the White House has caught an incredible break: In terms of positive, forward-looking leadership, the Republicans are offering even less.

Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell have set their sights incredibly low. They talk about controlling government spending and slashing the deficit, but they have no plan to accomplish these goals—none that they’re willing to lay out in specific detail, at least. They won’t say what they want to cut. They won’t say how they intend to deal with entitlements.

Their intention seems to be to spend the next two years orchestrating largely symbolic votes on whether to undo what Obama has done. The public gave Obama a “blame Bush” honeymoon of just a few months; I’m betting that Boehner and McConnell will be cut even less “blame Obama” slack.

The smaller, much more liberal Democratic caucus in Congress has a clear agenda: full speed ahead in a campaign of progressive reform. The newly elected tea party Republicans have a clear agenda: full speed astern, all the way to 1789. If nobody else wants to steer the boat, the people full of passion and ideas will be happy to fight over the wheel. Icebergs be damned.

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.
   
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By Orbis Unum, December 25, 2010 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment

Re: BR549, November 20 at 10:31 pm

You State: “Look, you seem intelligent and that site appears to have some material of value, but it isn’t the only site on the net promoting information such as it provides.”

Response: Name one other site proffering what we factually discuss with any viable solution to the geopolitical systemic fraud of governmental misrepresentation!

You State: “We’re not contributing articles slated for peer review or to be published in the Harvard Law Review. Lighten up, dude.”

Response: You ask me to lighten up when the world as a whole lets pass as civilly acceptable millions upon millions on innocent dies every year under the term of collateral damage!!!!!!! And you think such subject matters shouldn’t constantly be reviewed either by Harvard Law Review or other such publications of similar ilk???

And, if you think that posting whatever material subject matter you may choose to comment on and post wherever isn’t for peer review by whomever (considering we presumably expect living breathing people to answer), then what pray tell are you doing posting herein?

Even Robert Scheer knows that when you entertain the idea of sharing ideas for pay or otherwise, somewhere along the line of so-called peer review, someone is going to question motives! See: http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/robert_scheer_nabs_spjs_new_media_prize_20101216/.

And, those who purport to publish upon any particular subject matter (you yourself included) must in general, be willing to answer whatever review is provided. But to consistently refuse to dialog the answer provided, either due from failure to read or otherwise, doesn’t justify one’s opinion that whatever material is presented, shouldn’t be presented in the most clear and concise manner possible by the presenter thereof.

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By BR549, November 20, 2010 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment

Orby,
And here we go again. On another thread, you had managed to mention your beloved http://www.scribd.com/rahyah site a full 16 times. On this thread, it has been only 12.

Look, you seem intelligent and that site appears to have some material of value, but it isn’t the only site on the net promoting information such as it provides. Secondly, you’d probably get more engaging responses to you posts if you got your head out of the clouds and come back to Earth with the rest of us. We’re not contributing articles slated for peer review or to be published in the Harvard Law Review. Lighten up, dude.

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By Orbis Unum, November 11, 2010 at 11:41 pm Link to this comment

Re: BR549, November 12 at 2:55 am.

Your state “Like I said.”

Response: What could anyone expect from such a diminutive intelligentsia? One might have thought, if one where actually a thinking sort, one might have attempted to prove otherwise!

I won’t presume to entertain why individuals deem it necessary to communicate with such flowering expose of their brilliance. But, not being one who accepts to condemn another for their efforts, we rather exhort them in our patience, to consider seeking further perfection for perfecting their condition. Than to shine were a miner of wisdom would have difficulty seeing otherwise!

In support of my continuing challenge throughout voluminous postings herein, one only has to avail themselves of facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Having said all this, I will be constantly vigilant, awaiting evidenced, line for line, contrary to the documentary evidence we have proffered!

We honorably await any evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised within the Universal Declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise.

And once again, as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By BR549, November 11, 2010 at 9:55 pm Link to this comment

Re:  Orbis Unum, November 12 at 1:32 am

Like I said.

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By Orbis Unum, November 11, 2010 at 8:32 pm Link to this comment

Re: BR549, November 12 at 12:36 am.

You state: “You know, this is Planet Earth we’re talking about here, not Krypton.

My brother does the same thing. He completely changes the subject to address some off the wall topic that only he happens to be well versed about, and then raises his eyebrows in surprise when no one can figure out what the hell he was talking about or how he managed to there from the conversation at hand. Meanwhile, everyone else is left wondering WTF?”

Response: In relationship to any comment referencing subject matter and/or the presumed changing thereof, please review my previous immediate posting (Orbis Unum, November 11 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment, referencing ‘Gmonst,’ at November 11 at 1:35 am. ).

Whether anyone claims to be on planet Earth or otherwise, it is best to review ongoing postings herein, if one intends to respond to such postings, just to make sure your not speaking from ill informed judgment calls. Following all the postings herein, is a good way to prevent any such judgments. Just a suggestion! But maybe we’re dealing with another ‘one minute manager’ who expects to be abreast of ongoing issues, without having to read?

In answer to whether this may be true or otherwise, it might be interesting for those willing, to read my posting referencing ‘one minute managers’ in the column written By Chris Hedges entitled, “A Recipe for Fascism.” Wherein, Orbis Unum, on November 11 at 11:54 responds to ‘gerard’s’ comments, November 11 at 11:10 pm. comments) 

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By BR549, November 11, 2010 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment

Orbis Unum, November 11 at 8:49 pm

You know, this is Planet Earth we’re talking about here, not Krypton.

My brother does the same thing. He completely changes the subject to address some off the wall topic that only he happens to be well versed about, and then raises his eyebrows in surprise when no one can figure out what the hell he was talking about or how he managed to there from the conversation at hand. Meanwhile, everyone else is left wondering WTF?

I suppose we could all waste time deciphering someone’s content and then realize that their point could have been easily made in a sentence or two.

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By Orbis Unum, November 11, 2010 at 3:49 pm Link to this comment

This is a posting for the purpose of instructing others willing to learn how reasonable facts are determined. What rings true to people open to the Science of Right Reason in most cases, rests upon their ability to establish facts beyond a reasonable doubt.

In order to establish facts, reasonable people base such upon documentary evidence, the observation of the parties and the statements of witnesses who gave or give evidence on the spot if available or possible.

In assessing the evidence for the purpose of establishing the facts, reasonable people consider the following elements are relevant.

In assessing both written and oral evidence, reasonable people hitherto generally applied “beyond a reasonable doubt” as the standard of proof required. Such proof may follow from the coexistence of sufficiently strong, clear and concordant inferences or of similar unrebutted presumptions of fact; in addition, the conduct of the parties in relationship to the arbiter’s efforts and willingness to view all facts and/or obtain evidence, may constitute an element to be taken into account. Depending on whether the Arbiter acts from the Standing of Honor or has some Conflict of interest unknown to either party applicable to the controversies in question or otherwise.

And, reasonable people may also, consider as relevant facts, even if the circumstances took place in time long ago, in an obscure and particularly complex context, which makes some degree of imprecision about other details inevitable, evidence proffered as to cast doubt on the credibility of the parties, witnesses, or evidenced produced. Even when there are contradictory and opposing accounts of the facts.

As evidenced of those who have sacrificed for years to peel away the programming of misrepresentation by social role models most have paid dearly one way or the other to expose, we offer the truth of the matter via the “4” declarations espoused by the S.E.A., published via the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah, available for those honestly looking for researching the truth, in the interest of Good Will with All Walks of Life seeking Universal Peace and solution oriented paradigms to the problems of systemic fraud.

Having said all this, what you or others may describe or proffer in support or contradistinction via your own ability to discern the facts presented, appertaining to the declarations aforementioned, and your reasonable ability to establish the facts according to the above stated ‘standard,’ is the only recourse open to process information to any conclusion justly. If you or others chose to ignore the standard aforementioned, your discourse will remain ‘reasonably’ unproven.

We honorably await your evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise.

And once again, as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By Orbis Unum, November 11, 2010 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment

Re: Gmonst, November 11 at 1:35 am.

You state: “To suggest anything I have said is libelous is just absurd.”

Response: Academically or otherwise, when one quotes another source or individual, it must be exact unless notice is given otherwise, i.e., emphasis added. And, even this can be taken as disrespect/slanderous or libelous if presented along side insolent behavior. If any absurdity exists, it exists because individuals do not recognize there own mistakes or the difference between right and wrong. Your awareness respective to your behavior can only be reflected by chance awareness. In the hopes that you may become more perfect for your condition or palatable in pursuit of perfection, one can only hope for the best but plan for the rest. The choice is yours!

You state: “How is this not a request to read your work and not refute by simple general argument against the premise and ideas of your work but to break it down line by line?  You don’t just want counterargument but counterargument according to your terms.”

Response: Nowhere throughout my various postings touching upon the subject matter of any premise that I have presented, would I ever consider ‘simple general argument’ capable of refuting any facts!

And for the sake of the idea of counterargument as you might put it, it is not what I’ve specifically asked for repeatedly, in return as acceptable response to my premise or where such information may be garnered from, in respect to any response or facts, or otherwise. What I’ve asked for in return is fact for fact, line for line, in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

I’m very particular, for very specific reasons about how individuals respond. I’m not interested in spurious arguments for the sake of argument. As I’ve posted before the protocol by which we accept evidence for the purpose of establishing the facts, which reasonable people consider when wishing to establish elements are relevant fact Following this posting I will once again, post such protocol for your consideration as well as whomever may think to proffer facts in respect to out challenge. I find nothing wrong in setting the perimeters for any contest or challenge for establishing facts. And those who do usually have something to hide or worse!!!

In support of my continuing challenge throughout voluminous postings herein, one only has to avail themselves of facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Having said all this, I will be constantly vigilant, awaiting evidenced, line for line, contrary to the documentary evidence we have proffered!

You state: “This is my last post directed to you.”

Response: I respect your statement and will gladly hold you to it, if you should pursue actions otherwise. Where I was raised and what I was taught in respect to a Man’s word, was that it was his Bond, and he who could not abide thereby, was without trust, credit, or honor. As far as your last question, which is a misnomer to say the least, apparently is 3 separate questions for those who can count. First question and my answer, Artur Alexander Augustus is the head of the alliance aforementioned. Your 2nd question and my answer, related to similar identity between the two entitled individuals is unknown to me, in respect to whether they are the same person at this time. In respect to your last question and my answer, I must inform you that in no uncertain terms and/or unequivocally otherwise, NO!

My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By Gmonst, November 10, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Orbus:

I am sorry if you felt I was disrespectful.  That wasn’t my intent, it was a bit curt and for that I apologize. You are on here trying to influence others.  I am simply trying to make sense of it.  I am trying to make it clear to you that your writing style and wordiness is such that your ideas and words will never have the impact that they are intended to have. 

To suggest anything I have said is libelous is just absurd.  You repeatedly state:

“Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line. “

How is this not a request to read your work and not refute by simple general argument against the premise and ideas of your work but to break it down line by line?  You don’t just want counterargument but counterargument according to your terms.

You will continue to wait patiently because one has to be able to understand your ideas before they can be refuted.  By clothing your ideas in layer upon layer unnecessary words, making it read like the fine print of a credit card application, you effectively dissuade anyone form actually taking the time to understand what you are saying.  That is not the victory of ideas, but being unintelligible.

This is my last post directed to you.  I do have one last question.  Who is Arthur Alexander Augustus?  Is it in any way connected to Ronald Griesacker?  Are you Ronald Griesacker?

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By Orbis Unum, November 10, 2010 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

Re: Gmonst, November 10 at 8:21 pm..

You state: “Read my long, wordy, piece and prove me wrong, I am waiting patiently to be proved wrong.  But don’t just discuss how I am wrong.  Break my piece down line by line or its not the right way to prove me wrong.”

Response: This posting is to touch upon my previous posting to ‘Gmonst.’ Just to be consider reasonable. Even though ‘Gmonst’ has committed libel directly misquoting me, please don’t think that for a moment that just because I admitted to the other statements in sentence form, between quotations marks, aren’t libelous as well for there lack of exactness to be qualified as a quote!!!

Anyhow, what rings true to people open to the Science of Right Reason in most cases, rests upon their ability to establish facts beyond a reasonable doubt.

In order to establish facts, reasonable people base such upon documentary evidence, the observation of the parties and the statements of witnesses who gave or give evidence on the spot if available or possible.

In assessing evidence for the purpose of establishing facts, reasonable people consider the following elements are relevant.

In assessing both written and oral evidence, reasonable people hitherto generally applied “beyond a reasonable doubt” as the standard of proof required. Such proof may follow from the coexistence of sufficiently strong, clear and concordant inferences or of similar unrebutted presumptions of fact; in addition, the conduct of the parties in relationship to the arbiter’s efforts and willingness to view all facts and/or obtain evidence, may constitute an element to be taken into account. Depending on whether the Arbiter acts from the Standing of Honor or has some Conflict of interest unknown to either party applicable to the controversies in question or otherwise.

And, reasonable people may also, consider as relevant facts, even if the circumstances took place in time long ago, in an obscure and particularly complex context, which makes some degree of imprecision about other details inevitable, evidence proffered as to cast doubt on the credibility of the parties, witnesses, or evidenced produced. Even when there are contradictory and opposing accounts of the facts.

In support of my continuing challenge throughout voluminous postings herein, one only has to avail themselves of facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence contrary to the premises presented in the web link provided. In-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By Orbis Unum, November 10, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

Re: Gmonst, November 10 at 8:21 pm.

You state: “Read my long, wordy, piece and prove me wrong, I am waiting patiently to be proved wrong.  But don’t just discuss how I am wrong.  Break my piece down line by line or its not the right way to prove me wrong.”

Response: To me, if one is to be reasonable in any attempt to reveal ideas or facts to others claiming above average cognizant intelligence, the least such individuals could give in return, is the same respect given.

I’ve entered this forum for the purpose of both exchanging ideas and for mutual growth, both in presenting our individual variances thereto, or abilities to express better ways to exchange ideas, oriented toward solutions of Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life.

To date, there have been some exchanges herein, who’ve both responded well to posted ideas, while some ideas have been positive or negative. But all in all, the delivery of ideas or the responses thereto, have been based upon negative connotations in respect to specific posters, instead of commenting about ideas expressed, by responding in romper room fashion. The general accepted ‘Rule’ of behavior, for any real debate of ideas, should avoid if at all possible, derogatory comments about any commenter without just cause, when using specific or general terms to respond to ideas, while avoiding at all cost, dishonorable behavior toward others.

Not one viable answer or solution has been proffered with any evidence to prove me wrong. It is unacceptable to the Science of Right reason, how people can make statements such as, i.e., ‘ut don’t just discuss how I am wrong.’ Being, that this statement is in sentence form between the quotations marks, surrounded by other sentences in statement form, which I have put into writing. But this in particular sentence in statement form ‘ut don’t just discuss how I am wrong’ is libelous! I’ve never stated such throughout any post I’ve written herein! Such statement intertwined, reveals either or both, that anyone making such statements must be limited in both their time and effort to read our postings or any evidence we’ve proffered, or otherwise, has ill intent!

Why? Because, if one wishes to take the time to accept to prove us right or wrong, the ‘Rule’ laid down repeatedly, for legitimate and reasonable dialog, is based upon accepted norms, for the purpose of discovery by jurists universally, honorably seeking the truth of any matter. 
As we have said before, which has been proven to date, beyond any reasonable doubt otherwise, it seems that individuals who wish to degrade those seeking only solution oriented paradigms (per: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah) must be subjected to insolence.

Even though at all times, we have only pleaded reasonable behavior within an alleged forum designed for airing hopefully civilized exchange of ideas.
There are those who persist in their prerogative to pander their form of social behavior as acceptable intelligentsia for the rest of us to follow but in turn offer us no solutions to confront the true issues which face us on a daily basis.
For those of us who wish to remain above their infantile behavior, we must ignore them like spoiled little brats who deserve only our contempt, until they in turn, in our most fervent hope, choose at some put in their lonely and pathetic little lives, to act reasonably; to respect others whose only desire is to proffer respect in return, for respect given!

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By rbrooks, November 10, 2010 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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It’s the brain chip implant. What do you want from the man?

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By johncp, November 10, 2010 at 5:21 pm Link to this comment

What mojo has he lost?  Where was this mojo you’re talking about, ever in evidence?  It’s clear that for at least the next two years, we may as well stop reading these political commentaries.  We know what the republicans think, and most, if not all, of the democratic political observers will continue to try to put the best possible face on what is clearly, and embarrassingly, a failed presidency.  Not surprisingly, Obama is a perfect democratic version of Bush the Younger.  The man is a slick talking hustler, that played his part in having the presidency purchased for him, accompanied by grandiloquent declarations of “hope” and “change.”  The closest thing he’s come to “mojo” is his seemingly warm and completely manufactured smile, and his “cool” walk.  You can tell what’s happening when you see him never take his eyes off the teleprompter, through which he contrives a look of perfect sincerity.  Ninety-nine in a hundred politicians, are lawyers after all.  The reason he hasn’t provided leadership couldn’t be more obvious: the quality is alien to him, and only fools wait to see if a man of nearly 50, will magically acquire it.

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By BR549, November 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm Link to this comment

Gene, Gene, Gene,
You had us going there, having us believe you might have even started to see the “real” light of the Obama reality, but then, once again, you had to put the last word in and in your very last paragraph chose to show us your spots once again.

The Tea Party was started in earnest through Ron Paul, one of the most fiscally aware politicians in Washington, not the “Republican Party” or through a number of angry conspiratorial whack-jobs looking to tear down all forms of government. Had you laid off your Hopium addiction for two seconds and researched the issue, what you would have found was that the Tea Party, as co-opted as it might have become, still represents the majority of Americans who feel that Washington no longer represents their interests. THAT is what the Tea Party is about. It isn’t some anti black-person-as-president following; it’s that the populace is fed up with lying and self-serving politicians, whether they happen to be black, white, or purple.

While you are busy still visualizing life in an Obama fantasyland, your taxes are being used for reasons that all too closely resemble those which we saw 80 years ago in pre-WWII Germany. Why don’t you do an article on all the blacks that have abandoned Obama and ask them how much hope they still have? Perhaps if you volunteered in a soup kitchen instead of continuing to wallow in your tarnishing Pulitzer Prize, you might get a clue as to what is going on in this country.

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By Gmonst, November 10, 2010 at 3:21 pm Link to this comment

Maybe is me.  My 3 college degrees are not helping me. Could someone be so kind and help me out.  What in the world is Orbis Unum trying to tell us. He might have something important to say but we need to understand him.  Maybe the people in Mensa understand him but with us he need to use nickel words and not dollar words.  I am not being negative I just want to understand.  Tlamatini-vicente

I don’t think its you.  Orbis Unum seems incapable of saying even the most simple of statement without adding a few paragraphs to make it unintelligible.  The basic gist of what is repeated several times is:

I have great ideas, read my ideas at this web site.

I wish it could be a bigger piece because but the website won’t allow bigger pieces.  To bad I couldn’t be as wordy as I wanted.

I have a private agreement between my group and the United Nations and the Oligarchy.

Read my long, wordy, piece and prove me wrong, I am waiting patiently to be proved wrong.  But don’t just discuss how I am wrong.  Break my piece down line by line or its not the right way to prove me wrong.

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By Orbis Unum, November 10, 2010 at 11:33 am Link to this comment

Re: vicente carranza, November 10 at 1:50 pm.

You state: “What in the world is Orbis Unum trying to tell us. He might have something important to say but we need to understand him.  Maybe the people in Mensa understand him but with us he need to use nickel words and not dollar words.  I am not being negative I just want to understand.”

Response: Please review my posting (By Orbis Unum, November 9 at 8:50 pm to review this posters comment, Re: Gmonst, November 9 at 7:51 pm/ ) in columnist Eugene Robinson article entitled, ‘Wanted: Mojo All Around’ for discussion of my limited abilities

Now to the matter at hand:

The web site I use to proffer evidence of misrepresentation and solution oriented paradigms does not allow for larger up-loadings than a 100MBs (http://www.scribd.com/rahyah).

This is very sad, not only for myself but All Walks of Life seeking Good Will in the interest of Universal Peace. Why? Because I would post the U.N. & U.S. & S.E.A. ‘Treaty of Peace’ establishing Standing within the geopolitical framework of International Conventions, which could be posted for others to study and/or research for themselves.

The treaty aforementioned, created via Variation by Agreement pursuant to the conventions aforementioned, is a private matter between the S.E.A. and the U.N. & S.E.A. with the global oligarchy. I am allowed by protocol to educate and help others fulfill their desire for self-determination but not interfere in the political internal affairs of another jurisdiction not in contradistinction to the treaty in question.

It is considered by the global oligarchy and all universally, that to assist others to become competent (rather than remain incompetent in beliefs untested and consistently proven false with the only outcome being their content on voluntary slavery) are actions predicated on Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life.

This action of self-determination via Variation of Agreement, creating Standing within the geopolitical framework of International Conventions, limits the liability of the global oligarchy’s to react to the incompetence they’ve created over vast millenniums, orchestrated (Tragedy & Hope, by Dr. Carroll Quigley) to reign in the baser instincts of Mankind, by those willing to accept liability honorably.

To better understand the advancement of self-determination one must put such ideas or reasons in the words of those most familiar, to be open to the honorable liability of competence. For instance, the words of President Truman, e.g., “Man has learned long ago that it is impossible to live unto himself.” “All will concede that in order to have good neighbors we must also be good neighbors;” and, “For lasting security, men of good-will must unite and organize;” and, “Differences between men, and between nations, will always remain. In fact, if held within reasonable limits, such disagreements are actually wholesome. All progress begins with differences of opinion and moves onward as the differences are adjusted through reason and mutual understanding.”   

In support of my continuing the challenge throughout voluminous postings herein, one only has to avail themselves of facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Having said all this, I will be constantly vigilant, awaiting evidenced, line for line, contrary to the documentary evidence we have proffered!

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

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By vicente carranza, November 10, 2010 at 8:50 am Link to this comment

Maybe is me.  My 3 college degrees are not helping me. Could someone be so kind and help me out.  What in the world is Orbis Unum trying to tell us. He might have something important to say but we need to understand him.  Maybe the people in Mensa understand him but with us he need to use nickel words and not dollar words.  I am not being negative I just want to understand.  Tlamatini-vicente

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By vicente carranza, November 10, 2010 at 8:25 am Link to this comment

I have been reading about the USA presidents since Ike. I have been studying USA presidents since 1974.  To me, like a lot of other people, Obama has been the biggest disappointment of them all. Reagan was not a disappointment.  We knew what we were getting from a ‘B’ actor.  Same with Ford who played football with out a helmet. Bust Jr. we knew off him since day one. But Obama who was another person when he was a candidate gave us so much hope. I don’t care if the last 10 presidents left his lots of shit that he has to deal with he still has not impress anyone with what he can do himself as the most powerful person in this country.  Nothing.

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By mdgr, November 9, 2010 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment

“Misplaced mojo?” My goodness, but you pundits are good with the lie. In point of fact, there never was any mojo. Eugene, all you are doing here is perpetuating an illusion. You’re just clicking your tongue, or a talking in tongues, whatever.

You, sir, are very much part of the problem. Your next column will be on how Obama is subject to racism
Never mind that he was hand-picked in the first place to be an “Uncle Tom” Manchurian Candidate for all those color-blind white boyz on Wall Street. When are you going to start calling Obama by his proper name in Harlem, which we all know as “Oreo?”

When are you going to begin referring to him not as President Mojo, but as President Twinkie?

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By Orbis Unum, November 9, 2010 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment

Re: Gmonst, November 9 at 7:51 pm/

You state: “Now that’s what I call a run on sentence!”

Response: I humbly apologize for archaic style of writing. I don’t claim to be a one proficient in the modern forms of written expression. I have encountered many who have read my material saying the same thing!

I’m just a humble individual trying to do the best I can with the presumable talents I’ve been accustom to using, by only expose the misrepresentations but putting in place and actually creating solution oriented paradigms. When others herein, or otherwise, only complain incessantly and continue to keep doing the same thing, expecting a different outcome. If they could differentiate the stated difference, sanity would be established by Good Will in the interest of Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!

Such behavior is indicative of insanity. And it is impossible to change such behavior if one can not determine the difference between right and wrong.

I apologize incessantly for my mistyping or run on sentences. But my profession as a contract specialist has taught me long ago, if one has something to say, be as verbose as necessary. Because otherwise, your silence will be taken as agreement otherwise, to schemes designed to enslave.

The sight I use to proffer evidence of misrepresentation and solution oriented paradigms does not allow for larger up-loadings than a 100MBs (http://www.scribd.com/rahyah).

This is very sad, not only for myself but All Walks of Life seeking Good Will in the interest of Universal Peace. Why? Because I would post the Treaty of Peace establishing Standing within the geopolitical framework of International Conventions, which could be posted for others to study or research for themselves.

The treaty aforementioned, created by Variation by Agreement pursuant to the conventions aforementioned, is a private matter between the S.E.A. and the global oligarchy. I am allowed by protocol to educate and help others fulfill their desire for self-determination but not interfere in the political internal affairs of another jurisdiction not in contradistinction to the treaty in question.

In support of my continuing the challenge throughout voluminous postings herein, one only has to avail themselves of facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Having said all this, I will be constantly vigilant, awaiting evidenced, line for line, contrary to the documentary evidence we have proffered!

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

And, once again as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By Orbis Unum, November 9, 2010 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment

Re: BarbieQue, November 9 at 8:03 pm.

You state: “TO: Lafayette, November 9 at 10:28 am”

Response: Excellent retort. Very well documented beyond a reasonable doubt!!!

Now to the matter at hand:

Simply put, the evidence in support of voter value in respect to changing the Rules by which the Guardians play by, appertaining to any of the branches of government or agencies thereof, is as likely to affect or alter the outcome arising from the lack of Standing to State a Claim for which relief cam be Granted, pro or con, in a system of governance you’ve been duped into believing you’re a party too!!!

In support of the challenge aforementioned, one only has to avail themselves of these facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

And, once again as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By SECREV, November 9, 2010 at 3:09 pm Link to this comment
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Ah mojo is so overrated. Who needs mojo when one can
lie, cheat, lie, cheat, and finally bully, and again lie,
cheat, lie, cheat ...? Don’t worry, geney baby, your
Obama didn;t ever lose *that* mojo. Never will. In fact
his ‘mojo’ is so pathologically indestructible that it will
only die with a bullet from his own gun, while sitting in
a bunker underneath the West Wing.

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By BarbieQue, November 9, 2010 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

TO: Lafayette, November 9 at 10:28 am

>>“Spurious commentary, defamatory and without the slightest justification.”<<

Have you not heard of Geithner, Clinton, Paulson or Summers? Spurious, defamatory and without justification?

Are you daft?

>>“How did this administration cower to the vested interests of Wall Street, when the overriding menace was a Credit Mechanism meltdown that would have brought the economy to its knees? Answer the question…”<<

Wow. I’ll Let Robert Scheer “answer the question”, General:

After Summers Comes the Fall
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/after_summers_comes_the_fall_20100914/

“...It was Summers who, as treasury secretary in the Clinton administration, pushed through the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which opened the floodgates to the toxic mortgage-backed derivatives that still haunt the economy…”

“... Newfangled derivatives that were exempted from any regulation, and removed from the purview of any regulatory agency, by the law that Summers got President Bill Clinton to sign off on…”

“...Summers claimed that the suggestion of the prescient Brooksley Born to rein in those scams would have killed the golden goose of a derivatives market which, thanks to Summers, was allowed to run wild. He offered the following reasoning in congressional testimony supporting a ban on derivatives regulation:..”

“...Summers got his cut from those grateful bankers, receiving $8 million in consulting and speaking fees from major Wall Street firms while he was a top adviser to the Obama election campaign. For just one speaking appearance, Goldman Sachs paid him $135,000…”

“...During his tenure as President Barack Obama’s top economic adviser, Summers has continued the Bush policy of throwing money at Wall Street without getting anything in return by way of a moratorium on mortgage foreclosures..”

“...Even Bill Clinton, who signed off on the radical deregulation enabling this financial meltdown, expressed remorse in one surprisingly honest moment… “On derivatives, yeah I think they were wrong, and I think I was wrong to take [their advice], because the argument on derivatives was that these things are expensive and sophisticated ...”

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Does that help, Lafayette?

>>”...You’ve made an accusation, now substantiate what you propose or find elsewhere to vomit your frustrations…”<<

Perhaps more sources would be in order here, so you could catch up.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/so_long_summers_20100921/

http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/chris_hedges_on_illusion_corporatism_and_inverted_totalitarianism_20100203/

“...The New York Times got it right: “… the plan largely repeats the Bush administration’s approach of deferring to many of the same companies and executives who had peddled risky loans and investments at the heart of the crisis. …”

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090210_no_tough_love_for_wall_street/

“...As The New York Times revealed this week in a devastating exposé of Geithner’s record: “An examination of Mr. Geithner’s five years as president of the New York Fed, an era of unbridled and ultimately disastrous risk-taking by the financial industry, shows that he forged unusually close relationships with executives of Wall Street’s giant financial institutions. His actions, as a regulator and later a bailout king, often aligned with the industry’s interests and desires…”

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090428_the_clinton_bubble/

General: That is obviously from just this one site. If you really wanted answers to your dismal lack of knowledge in this regard, here’s a search site: http://google.com . You enter in a key word, click search, and results are displayed from a multitude of sources.

Hope all this helps
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For some reason I’m unable to load the other robinson thread to answer a question. For now, this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

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By Gmonst, November 9, 2010 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment

Orbis Unum wrote:

And, once again as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities.

Now that’s what I call a run on sentence!

I actually went to your web site and tried wading through the four declarations.  Your wordiness really hurts the conveying of ideas.  If you edit down your writing, I think you could present your ideas in a much more concise and readable form.  Start by summarizing your arguments in a condensed form early in the piece, then unpack the ideas through the rest of the piece.  As it is, it feels like looking at a messy room and being asked to pack everything up.  The reader has to do the work of sorting through very bloated writing. 

Your ideas are not bad, but are a bit Utopian.  You seem to forget the alpha-ape nature of humans. Consistent with the ape troupe, we constantly want to be better in some way than those around us, which makes the freedom from want impossible. Even if all needs are met we will still want to have more than others around us.  Freedom from fear is even less realistic, and perhaps not even completely desirable.  After all fear is the natural means by which we are made to avoid danger.

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By Orbis Unum, November 9, 2010 at 1:04 pm Link to this comment

Re: Lafayette, November 9 at 10:30 am.

You state: “Frankly, I’ve put your blather on SOB. (Scroll On By ...)”

Response: Ah the smell of voluntary slavery of a french-fry!!! No doubt enticing to be smothered in greasy subjugation by sophistic simplicity and avoidance any real condiments of honor!!!

But what the heck, this columnist’s article shows no difference in character either. Unless he may wish to take up the challenge. Unlike a little french-fry shivering from the cold, dank, and dark loneliness of depravity and enslavement. Just waiting for the first fat oligarchic fingers to suck the last remaining drops of fear, from whatever essence remains of the day to prove otherwise, for those freely choose to be without honor!

In support of the challenge aforementioned, one only has to avail themselves of these facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

And, once again as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!!!

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By gerard, November 9, 2010 at 12:35 pm Link to this comment

Obama—” I am constantly reminded that we have been through worse times than these, and we’ve always come out on top. And I’m positive that the same thing is going to happen this time.”

???  Code for:  “Come on, people.  I can’t do this alone. When are you going to organize and come to Washington in body and spirit to help me out of this mess?”

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By balkas, November 9, 2010 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment

let’s please forget about any d.n. [a region of disunited nations] politico, judge,
columnist, ‘educator’.

Instead, let us dwell on body of such people; it being just like any big happy
mafia family.
let’s dwell on the constitution and note that it being an inanimate piece of paper
and written by once rich men but now dead cannot do u any good.

no folks, dead cannot hurt u—only the living can and do that. and we know
who these living people r: pols, judges, columnists, ‘educators’.
in short, the family!

and the ultimate reality show that the body present to us and addiction-thrill of
owning people is not gonna stop unless we set up another big happy family.
and which wld render their cia, fbi, army our cia, fbi, and army. tnx

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By ardee, November 9, 2010 at 6:50 am Link to this comment

Obama demonstrated cowardice,conciliation, perhaps even contempt for his own wishes ( if indeed he does wish for a progressive agenda at all).Just as he has these last two years, just as he will the next two.

By retaining his Wall Street cabinet he shows his obeisance to the money. By refusing to allow Justice to investigate, hopefully prosecute, and jail those who wrecked our economy for personal gain he shows his true allegiance.

By refusing to fight for his health care bill, and he certainly refused to do so, he allowed ( or wanted in the first place) a watered down product that does grant certain reforms, reforms I think will be gotten around rather easily, and one that assures continued and usurious profits while continuing third rate care.

By continuing the use of rendition and torture he condemns himself and this nation in the face of world wide public opinion. By continuing a war that is fought only for profit he furthers the goals of those he really works for.

By remaining silent in the face of ridiculous and nebulous statements from the right he has allowed those comments to become as truth. I think the man a physiological oddity, a President without a backbone. How does he remain erect?

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By Lafayette, November 9, 2010 at 5:30 am Link to this comment

OU: This, as well as previous postings, an others to follow repeatedly, until someone accepts the challenge to prove otherwise

Frankly, I’ve put your blather on SOB. (Scroll On By ...)

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By Lafayette, November 9, 2010 at 5:28 am Link to this comment

BQ: Robinson isn’t stupid, he knows that O’change’Os financial team was the wrecking crew from before.

Spurious commentary, defamatory and without the slightest justification.

How did this administration cower to the vested interests of Wall Street, when the overriding menace was a Credit Mechanism meltdown that would have brought the economy to its knees? Answer the question.

It’s too damn easy to point the finger of blame, but where is your proof? The same standards of probity should apply in a blog as do in a court of law.

You’ve made an accusation, now substantiate what you propose or find elsewhere to vomit your frustrations.

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By Lafayette, November 9, 2010 at 5:18 am Link to this comment

President Obama was reasonable, analytical, professorial—but also uninspired and uninspiring.

Hmmn, yes ... very much like the journalistic reporting about Obama. Uninspired and uninspiring and desperate to meet a news deadline.

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By Orbis Unum, November 9, 2010 at 2:57 am Link to this comment

This, as well as previous postings, an others to follow repeatedly, until someone accepts the challenge to prove otherwise, touching upon evidentiary facts of solution oriented paradigms, will be proffered from my deepest hope, that whomever actually uses the Science of Right Reason, either knows someone who purports to act or do so, will submit evidence we proffer, an either contradict such evidence, line for line, or support the premise from a duty to humanity. And, from a deep seated responsibility to the present generation and future generations of children everywhere, in hopes of preventing their subjugation and condition of mind, evincing a design of their total enslavement of All Walks of Life.

I challenge the world, international jurists, purported human rights organizations, and any other purportedly interested in TRUTH & JUSTICE!!! Failure to do so, will be evidence for this generation and future generations, that the world, every geopolitical body of governance, international jurists, human rights organizations, columnist, posters herein, and such purported individuals don’t give one iota about solution oriented paradigms. And, are nothing more than harbingers of fraud and agencies of deceitful misrepresentation for the global oligarchy! PERIOD! 

So, the motive for our challenge is to state our just cause before a Candid World. To discover whether their perfect for their condition of subjugation or otherwise. Offering nothing other than complaints and endless bickering, rather than being solution oriented. Our hope is, the reasoning behind or at the forefront of their laudable efforts, wherever postulated as so, is because of their Good Will in the interest of Universal Peace to foster guidance necessary to sustain solution oriented paradigms as we humbly proffer.

Having said all this, I will be constantly vigilant, awaiting evidenced, line for line, contrary to the documentary evidence we have proffered!

In support of the challenge aforementioned, one only has to avail themselves of these facts we present, if they have any honorable bone in them, to accept the challenge, by reading the “4” declarations posted by the SEA at the web link: http://www.scribd.com/rahyah.

If no one accepts to prove us wrong, according to the Rules (line for line) of the proffered evidence, then it is ipso facto, an unrebutted presumption of relevant fact, that what we say, concerning every geopolitical body of governance, international jurists, human rights organizations, columnist, posters herein, and such purported individuals, are in total agreement with our presumption of facts, actually and idiomatically, and don’t give one iota about solution oriented paradigms or the enslavement of this planet by the global oligarchy. And, are nothing more than harbingers of fraud and agencies of deceitful misrepresentation for the global oligarchy! PERIOD! 

Again, we honorably await any actual and provable evidence to prove the premises presented in-particular to the established facts raised with the declaration dealing with the Four Freedoms on pages 13-15 to prove otherwise. Not by generalities but Line for Line.

And, once again as our humble attempt for those capable of presenting facts line for line, in the light of reasonable propositions or otherwise, just as a reminder for all those who honorably exchange ideas within the ‘Truthdig Forum’ while refraining from hateful or insolent behavior…always remember, sometimes while exchanging ideas, the time and respect we give, from a deep seated desire to foster harmonious behavior to garner enlightenment, can be met on the road of hopeful enlightenment, by those seeking to discourage, rather than exhorting to greater possibilities. My best to all who post herein, for the purpose of proposing hopeful enlightenment or garnering enlightenment, while proffering Good Will in the interest of seeking Universal Peace with All Walks of Life!

Until tomorrow, my best to everyone.

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By BarbieQue, November 9, 2010 at 2:35 am Link to this comment

ER:<<”...The smaller, much more liberal Democratic caucus in Congress has a clear agenda: full speed ahead in a campaign of progressive reform….”<<

Of course, because they did such a magnificent job when they had the whole ball ‘o wax.

ER:<<”...The newly elected tea party Republicans have a clear agenda: full speed astern, all the way to 1789…”<<<

Future historians who study these archives might wonder why so much attention was paid to a popular peaceful uprising of concerned citizens while the real gangsters that led our nation and lots of the free world into a near depression are ignored by professionals like Eugene. Robinson isn’t stupid, he knows that O’change’Os financial team was the wrecking crew from before.

But look over there, or there or anywhere but where it counts. It makes the Robinsons of the world happy.

Robert Scheer is spot on when he reminds people that the Tea party did *not* Cause the meltdown. They are a natural reaction to a trainwreck. Are we supposed to keep doing the same thing over and over, till the well runs dry?

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By eir, November 9, 2010 at 2:23 am Link to this comment

I had the impression Obama viewed the presidency as some sort of Broadway show he would be the star of, you know kinda like this.

You want to see some mojo?  Here’s the mojo of an 88 year old patriot.

Barack and Rand will have us all singing along with this!

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