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Posted on Jul 21, 2010
White House / Pete Souza

By Eugene Robinson

After the Shirley Sherrod episode, there’s no longer any need to mince words: A cynical right-wing propaganda machine is peddling the poisonous fiction that when African-Americans or other minorities reach positions of power, they seek some kind of revenge against whites.

A few of the purveyors of this bigoted nonsense might actually believe it. Most of them, however, are merely seeking political gain by inviting white voters to question the motives and good faith of the nation’s first African-American president. This is really about tearing Barack Obama down.

Sherrod, until Monday an official with the Department of Agriculture, was supposed to be mere collateral damage. Andrew Breitbart, a smarmy provocateur who often speaks at tea party rallies, posted on his website a video snippet of a speech that Sherrod, who is African-American, gave to a NAACP meeting earlier this year. In it, Sherrod seemed to boast of having withheld from a white farmer some measure of aid that she would have given to a black farmer.

It looked like a clear case of black racism in action. Within hours, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack had forced her to resign. The NAACP, under attack from the right for having denounced racism in the tea party movement, issued a statement blasting Sherrod and condemning her attitude as unacceptable.

But Breitbart had overstepped. The full video of Sherrod’s speech showed she wasn’t bragging about being a racist, she was telling what amounted to a parable about prejudice and reconciliation. For one thing, the incident happened in 1986 when she was working for a nonprofit, long before she joined the Obama administration. For another, she helped that white man and his family save their farm, and they became friends. Through him, she said, she learned to look past race toward our common humanity.

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In effect, she was telling the story of America’s struggle with race, but with the roles reversed. For hundreds of years, black people were enslaved, oppressed and discriminated against by whites—until the civil rights movement gave us all a path toward redemption.

With the Obama presidency, though, has come a flurry of charges—from the likes of Breitbart but also from more substantial conservative figures—about alleged incidences of racial discrimination against whites by blacks and other minorities. Recall, for example, the way Obama’s critics had a fit when he offered an opinion about the confrontation between Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and a white police officer. Remember the over-the-top reaction when it was learned that Justice Sonia Sotomayor had once talked about how being a “wise Latina” might affect her thinking.

Newt Gingrich called Sotomayor a racist. He was lightning-quick to call Sherrod a racist, too. I’d suggest that the former House speaker consider switching to decaf, but I think he knows exactly what he’s doing.

These allegations of anti-white racism are being deliberately hyped and exaggerated because they are designed to make whites fearful. It won’t work with most people, of course, but it works with some—enough, perhaps, to help erode Obama’s political standing and damage his party’s prospects at the polls.

Before Sherrod, the cause celebre of the “You Must Fear Obama” campaign involved something called the New Black Panther Party. Never heard of it? That’s because it’s a tiny group that exists mainly in the fevered imaginations of its few members. Also in the alternate reality of Fox News: One of the network’s hosts has devoted more than three hours of air time in recent weeks to the grave threat posed by the NBPP. Actually, I suspect that this excess is at least partly an attempt by a relatively obscure anchor to boost her own notoriety.

The Sherrod case has fully exposed the right-wing campaign to use racial fear to destroy Obama’s presidency, and I hope the effect is to finally stiffen some spines in the administration. The way to deal with bullies is to confront them, not run away. Yet Sherrod was fired before even being allowed to tell her side of the story. She said the official who carried out the execution explained that she had to resign immediately because the story was going to be on Glenn Beck’s show that evening. Ironically, Beck was the only Fox host who, upon hearing the rest of Sherrod’s speech, promptly called for her to be reinstated. On Wednesday, Vilsack offered to rehire her.

Shirley Sherrod stuck to her principles and stood her ground. I hope the White House learns a lesson.

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.
   
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By MarthaA, July 26, 2010 at 2:08 am Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 26 at 5:07 am,

I do want more than two political parties, but Congress will have to institutionalize a 3rd, 4th, or 5th political parties; I would be happy with just one more political party that is equal in every way with the Republican and Democratic Parties; like Australia, we could call it the Labor Party, so our representatives couldn’t be shut out of the debates and marginalized.

Since there are only two political parties and my constituency is not of the 10% Big corporate/aristocratic elite GOP Republicans, it is not in my best interest to be a Republican, therefore being of the 70% populace constituency, I am a member of the Democratic Party, and get no representation, because the Democratic Party is solidly representative of the 20% Middle Class constituency; there is a little filters down from the Middle Class, but very little.  A 3rd institutionalized Political Party is desperately needed by the 70% Majority Common Populace. 

Independent is not a party, only a position within the Democratic or Republican Party that is separate of the party chosen..

Green is a political party but the Green Party is not recognized in the United States as equal to the Democratic and Republican Party and could only hold a position, like an Independent, within the Democratic Party, but separate of the Democratic Party.

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By MarthaA, July 26, 2010 at 2:05 am Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 26 at 5:07 am,

I do want more than two political parties, but Congress will have to institutionalize a 3rd, 4th, or 5th political parties; I would be happy with just one more political party that is equal in every way with the Republican and Democratic Parties; like Australia, we could call it the Labor Party, so our representatives couldn’t be shut out of the debates and marginalized.

Since there are only two political parties and my constituency is not of the 10% Big corporate/aristocratic elite GOP Republicans, it is not in my best interest to be a Republican, therefore being of the 70% populace constituency, I am a member of the Democratic Party, and get no representation, because the Democratic Party is solidly representative of the 20% Middle Class constituency; there is a little filters down from the Middle Class, but very little.  A 3rd institutionalized Political Party is desperately needed by the 70% Majority Common Populace. 

Independent is not a party, only a position within the Democratic or Republican Party that separate of the party chosen..

Green is a political party but the Green Party is not recognized in the United States as equal to the Democratic and Republican Party and could only hold a position, like an Independent, within the Democratic Party, but separate of the Democratic Party.

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By ofersince72, July 26, 2010 at 1:07 am Link to this comment

WoW,  I have heard that story for fifty years, it is
funny,  it never reforms itself…amazing isn’t it?

  Getting back to the Sherrod story,

Since Obama didn’t fire the Secretary of Agriculture
for hastily jumping to conclusions about one of his
employees that FOX NEWS was character assassinating,
knowing Fox new’s reputation, if one can’t see that this
is just another manufactured good guy , bad guy routine
for the MSMs to rant on about for a couple of weeks in
order to divert attention away from the issues ....
you are blind….or have a vested interest in the Dem
Party, probably economic interests.

It is a shame that you don’t believe in three parties,
or even four parties,  you just want two parties, it
hasn’t worked so far,
economy is wrecked, labor doesn’t account for anything,
there aren’t any jobs here worth unionizing anyway.
ecology is wrecked, institutional racism as bad as ever,
wages down, rich getting richer, no conservation programs
and WE WILL BE SEEING MORE AND MORE
AUSTERITY PROGRAMS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS THAT
OWN THIS COUNTRY,,,, SOCIAL SECURITY IS THE NEXT
AUSTERITY PROGRAM COMING OUR WAY. Obamacare was one,
the bailouts another of the austerity programs.
guess what austerity program that the international
investors are going to impose on America after they
finish implementing the social security austerity program.
We have just   started with the AUSTERITY PROGRAMS
for the International Ivestors,  they own this place,
did you think we were getting all those loans for nothing?
The Austerity Programs are going to be exactly like what
was imposed on all Latin America countries after the
IMF and the World Bank gave them loans that they set up
in such a way that they could never be paid back.
We are a real BANANNA REPUBLIC now MARTHA, get used to it.

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By MarthaA, July 26, 2010 at 12:27 am Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 26 at 4:07 am,

Big corporations are suppose to be represented by the Republican Party, just not the Democratic Party; of the two parties, one party has to represent the populace, or there is legislation without representation, and it is not the Republicans because the Republican Party is home of the GOP Aristocratic Elite, NOT the Democratic Party; therefore the Democratic Party is the only party that the populace can actually do anything with for their benefit, and the sooner the populace as a whole learn it, the better off the populace will be, because there should be no Independents, as all the populace should be about correcting the Democratic Party to be a party of the populace, unless Congress wants to legislate and institutionalize another political party that is equal in every way with the Republican and Democratic Parties, so that the Populace will be represented in Congress and the making of law and order.

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By ofersince72, July 26, 2010 at 12:11 am Link to this comment

MarthaA,

  I am kind of agnostic,

however, If the God that you pray to is OK with
dropping uranium depleted warheads, phosphorus bombs,
machine gunning children , and calls the commander-in-
chief in charge of such GODLY.

  YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By ofersince72, July 26, 2010 at 12:07 am Link to this comment

MarthaA

  That is a beautiful little fairy tale.

To bad it is not pratical and will never come to pass.

The same fairy tale could be told of the Republican
Party…

  “if we can just get the corporate hacks out of the
republican party it would be just fine…”

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 11:55 pm Link to this comment

drbhelthi, July 26 at 2:54 am,

I do not agree with everything you have said but I agree with much of what you have said, and one of the things I disagree with is the Republican propagandizer and sophist Sarah Palin, who can see Russia from her yard in Alaska and I saw her say that.  She stumbles and fails in every knowledgeable interview she tries. Sarah Palin is a propagandizing beauty pageant bimbo hired by Rupert Murdoch to cause disruption against liberals, progressives, community and unions to lead the populace into thinking that President Obama is Hitler and that the Republicans’ GOP constituency represents the populace; it does not.  The Republicans’ constituency IS the GOP aristocracy and the corporatocracy, which has nothing what so ever to do with the populace and, instead of President Obama, it is they who are acting like Hitler under the leadership of Glenn Beck, Rupert Murdoch’s paid toady, as is Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and Sarah Palin.

There is NO GOP in the Democratic Party, the only party that should represent the populace if we can get the Conservatives and Moderates out of it; it will, otherwise, the populace needs a new political party.

The Conservative Republicans have managed to do a really good job of setting up the nation for destruction; President Obama is making his way through trying to turn around much of what has been done, but will do much better when we get a bunch of Conservatives and Moderates out of the Democratic Party, so that all the Democratic Party will accept leadership from their democratic leader; instead of defying him every which way and following the autocratic Republicans.  As far as I am concerned, all Conservatives and Moderates should be kicked out of the Democratic Party to the Republican Party where they belong.

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By drbhelthi, July 25, 2010 at 10:54 pm Link to this comment

Comments reflect the internal orientation of the commenter, and are classifiable into two basic groups.  Those that “kill the messenger,” and those that “discuss information.”  The kill the messenger type reflect the orientation of the group that manipulated the historical event of 2,000 years ago.  The chief politician in the event said, “I find no fault in this man.”  The “religious” leaders demanded that Barabus be freed and the innocent man crucified.  The chief politician permitted himself to be puppetized by the wishes if the religious hypocrites.

The same system has repeated itself historically and currently takes precedence in the U.S.A.  Politicians in office have turned their authority over to the same group of hypocrites, with no insight into their puppetization.  Thus, the difference between Democrats and Republicans exists essentially in names of the parties and the puppets at the top.  They do the bidding of the very few behind the scenes.  This few continue to pit Races against each other, create Exxon Valdez, Alaska Pipeline, and BP Gulf incidents, and manipulate war machines to genocide millions around the world.  They misuse the U.S. Army and Air Force and the banking system to import hundreds of tons of cocaine and wash the illegal billions.  Drug rehabilitation organizations within the military scapegoat military personnel caught using the illegal dope products they surreptitiously peddle via their “front men.”  Whenever possible, they scapegoat (formerly) minor politicians, who do not suck up to them, such as Sarah Palin, with problems they created and continue to create.

They disguise their banking system with names that imply U.S. Government ownership, for example, the U.S. Federal Reserve, which is not a function of the U.S. Government.  They create organizations such as the US CIA, and decline the U.S. Congress access to its budget, while using the organization to overtake the western world and destroy the U.S.ofA.  How many Americans know that the U.S. Federal Reserve is owned and operated essentially by offspring of the Israeli tribe, and is not a function of the U.S. Government?

Herr Fredric Bartz declared in the Fall of 1977, “ – all normal people have two characteristics in common; an asshole and an opinion.”  Fritz was not a student of Israeli history, and unaware that this small group uses the opinion characteristic to create Racial tension and social disruption, while furtively forwarding their agenda.  “Kill the messenger” response-comments always follow accurate ideas. Tiny repetitions of the murder of Jesus of Nazareth?

And they want the U.S. military to take up their Joseph vs. Essau tribal feud?  And some dumb American types have puppetized into their pathology?

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 10:31 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 26 at 2:01 am,

President Obama keeps a running record of everything he has done at http://www.whitehouse.gov/ and you can peruse the site for elaboration on what all President Obama has managed to accomplish in the last 18 months.  Nobody is perfect, but he is trying and he is getting better as he goes along.  The Bible says pray for Godly leaders and President Obama is a Godly leader, other than President Carter, possibly President Obama is the 1st real Godly leader our country has had after the Conservative Republican Revolution started in full swing with Ronald Reagan.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 10:01 pm Link to this comment

MarthA writes

  President Obama has done exceptionally well for
  eighteen months in office”

  Please, could you elaborate??

P.S.  JDMysticDJ…if you live in California, the
    election Gods have just delivered you a gift.

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

wildflower, July 26 at 1:15 am,

People of the populace need to stop reacting to the Right-Wing Aristocratic constituency’s propaganda through their Right-Wing Media Web.  President Obama has done exceptionally well for the eighteen months he has been in office.

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By wildflower, July 25, 2010 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

Re Robinson: “These allegations of anti-white racism are being deliberately hyped and exaggerated because they are designed to make whites fearful.”

I believe you’re right about this, Eugene.  BUT I don’t believe their strategy will work in the long run. Lets face it, the Republicans also don’t care much for poor and middle class white people – and there are a lot of them. 

They know the Republicans are up to no good, particulary those that are currently unemployed. Not only did the Republicans try to deny them an extension for unemployment benefits, but Republican Senators like Orin Hatch tried to portray them all as drug addicts:

“Sen. Orrin Hatch . . . proposed yesterday that people seeking unemployment benefits or welfare undergo drug tests before they can receive benefits. . .

. . . Hatch suggests such a system would save money and reduce the deficit, presumably by virtue of withholding benefits from those who fail drug tests. His release does not address the costs of drug testing everyone receiving unemployment or welfare benefits or enrolling those who fail the test in treatment programs.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20007929-503544.html

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 8:44 pm Link to this comment

Our resource wars have always been ugly. But just
reviewing history since the end of WWII, they get uglier
and uglier. From napalm to drones to uranium depleted
warheads,  I cannot and will not vote for a politician
that in any way supports this action.

  On another thread, Inherit_The_Wind spoke of “holding
your nose and vote”  for a Democrat to keep Republicans
out of office.
  However, the resource wars have got so ugly, such
as the million killed in Iraq with permanent bases that
both parties deny….and many others…..to the point
that our Secretary of State can’t open her mouth without
lieing .......that I
  Am considering for the first time in my life to
“hold my nose and vote” , for a republican, RON PAUL
who is at least sincere about ending U.S. sponsered
genocide….
and hopefully work the deregulation stuff out later.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment

As I have repeated on TD time after time, my vote
will always go against agressive resource wars in which
many nice human beings are slaughtered.
  And will be for civil liberties and civil rights
which neither major party provides.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

You are preaching to the wrong person about
constituencies.  I am sure that I have followed and
been involved in the American political scene at least
as long as you,

  and don’t need any Democrat supporter preaching to me
about the Arisotcracy which is just what the Democrat
Party represents

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 8:10 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, July 25 at 9:29 pm,

You should not choose issues, but constituencies.  Issues should be worked out within constituencies; politics should only be between constituencies.  There are three constituencies in the United States, the 10% Aristocracy’s constituency, the 20% Middle Class constituency, and the 70% Populace constituency and none of these constituencies have any of the same issues; therefore issues have to be worked out within constituencies, because neither the Aristocracy nor the Middle Class will be concerned about the issues of the Populace, even though the Populace is the majority population, and all the other constituencies think you are fools when you rely on them to figure out your constituent issues that are not their own, but they will never, never, ever tell you, because it is not their job to tell you what is in your best interest, but to take advantage of your foolishness. 

Remember, politics is leadership of constituents in their best interest and non-constituents against their best interest.  All members of the Populace are non-constituents of the American Aristocracy and the Middle Class.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment

Nice try Inherit_The_Wind,

  I will keep repeating, it is institutional racism
that is keeping the blacks in check.

  Such as the racist policy towards Haiti
  the rejection of D.C. voting rights.
  the crack to powder mandatory sentencing acts.
  the disparity in public education funding
  and on and on
  of which both the Democrats and Repulicans are
  equally responsible.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 25, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

If you take GRYM at his word, racism only exists on the Left as “reverse racism” and there is no racism on the right.

This, of course tosses out the last 46 years of Republican election strategies, beginning with attempts to intimidate Black votes in 1964 in Arizona (Wm. Rehnquist was doin’ that then).  Then came the infamous Nixonian “Southern Strategy” to capture Southern Democrats furious with LBJ for jamming through the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, and the appointment of Black Supreme Court Justice, Thurgood Marshall (the architect of the HATED Brown v. Board case).  It was Nixon’s campaign goal to harness as much as he could of that dissatisfaction that George Wallace was exploiting as well.  And it worked.
The race card was played by the GOP again in 1980, 1988, 1996 and again in 2000, 2004 and 2008.

(It was skipped in 1972 because “Acid, Abortion and Amnesty” was inflammatory enough, in 1976 because Ford wasn’t that kind of guy, and in 1984 because all Reagan had to say was Mondale was gonna raise taxes.)

The race card is being played in the off-year this year as a full-court press in every possible way, but with a strategy to viciously attack anyone who points it out.  Notice how GRYM does this—always changing topics—STILL bringing up the minuscule NBPP, which cannot be even 1/10 the size of the Aryan Brotherhood or the David Duke’s “National Association For the Advancement of White People”.

“Big Lie” strategy again and again and again.  GRYM is one of the many thousands of minions pushing it.

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment

I was listening to the, apparently Right-Wing,  McLaughlin Group on PBS today, July 25, 2010, and the announcer fibbed and flat out said we are in the third year since the economy crashed, which is really a stretch and I don’t consider it true at all.  The economy crashed in the United States September 18, 2008, so we are not in the third year since the crash, but are still in the 2nd year.  Bush carried the crash through until January 20, 2009, which was the 1st four months after the crash before President Obama took office.

It is not even two (2) years since the economy crashed. President Obama took over the Presidency January 20, 2009, which has been only 18 months, but the Republicans are trying to leave the impression President Obama has been on duty much longer, but he hasn’t.

President Obama has done well for the short time he has been in office considering the utter destruction he has faced down that the Conservative Republicans left him in hope that he would fall on his face, but he has not, and has made lemonade with all the lemons he was left with, and if the Conservative Republicans do not fool the populace into letting them get back into power, there is a good chance the nation will be revived.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 6:29 pm Link to this comment

Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall
  Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
  and all the kings men
  and all of the kings horses
  couldn’t put Humpty together again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 6:21 pm Link to this comment

You all might want to read Manufacturing Consent,
or Parenti had a real good read on how the media controls
thought that he wrote either in the early ninties or
late eighties , can’t remember.
 
  Or how it was exposed that the media used retired
Armed Forces officers that were lobbyists for the MIC
to explain military operations.

  The major media, just like our federal governmetn has
been undressed and left naked.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment

It is not a matter whether Rev. Wright appeals to my
leftist leanings or not, but a question of what the
media entertains and how they distort issues for their
corporate sponsers.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 5:29 pm Link to this comment

I choose not to make my political dialogue around
personalities but of issues.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment

A hater of what????

  We are all haters of something.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 25, 2010 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

offersince,

You’ll have to trust me when I write that all I know of Rev. Wright has next to nothing to do with any “news” outlet.  I have read his books.  I’ve read dozens of his sermons in their entirety.  I’ve studied Liberation Theology.  I’ve read many of the authors Mr. Wright claims to subscribe to.

I can understand how Rev. Wright’s view of certain events would appeal to you.  He is “Left” of Center…WAY, way Left of Center.  But the man’s hate and divisiveness is atrocious.  I don’t care what “truths” he speaks.  His teachings should never become commonplace.

I’m turning the table on this one.  I’m afraid all you know if Rev. Wright is derived solely from media sources.  I’m actually hoping you don’t know much of him, to tell you the truth.  I’m hoping you don’t fully understand the implications of him being a hero.  There is no better example of a Hater.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment

That the major news services are directing American
political dialogue around sensational (probably manufactured events) as the Sherrod event or Rev. Wright,
and not how BP bossed our government around in the
Gulf of Mexico, is a prime example of how they control
polical thought in America.

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By Anarcissie, July 25, 2010 at 4:43 pm Link to this comment

... Rev. Wright is not vilified for speaking the “truth”.  He is, rightfully so, roundly and soundly condemned from coast to coast, on all sides of ideology, for vomiting hate, ignorance and atrocious bigotry and outrageous racism. ...

That would just make him popular.  Observe how Palin and Gingrich injected themselves into the “Ground Zero Mosque” dispute in New York City on the side of racism and bigotry and against the U.S. Constitution.  Surely these clever people know the knuckledragger cause they have espoused is intellectually and morally untenable, but they hastened to join themselves to it anyway.  Why?  Because racism and bigotry are popular, especially among dumb people, who form a large segment of the electorate.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment

Go_Right_Young_Man

Personally,  I don’t watch Fox News, I have only seen
Glen Beck a couple of times, mostly when I am taking
some elderly person to a doctors office, he is as
repulsive as most have reported.
  However I don’t allow myself to be influenced by
the other propagantists from the other Corporate owned
news services such as MSNBC and CNN either.
  All one needs to do is look at results.
All these news services are professional issue and
mind control services.  They determine the talking points
of America policy,  they create the conquer and divide
politics that make it easy to control the voting
process, just as this little spew by Eugene Robinson
proves.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

Why do you believe Rev. Wright to be racist???

Go_Right_Young_Man?

  Because he doesn’t say the things that you want hear?

JDMysticDJ…... your rationalizations for support of
            The Democrat Party are decades old and
            still just as lame and still hold no
            water !!!

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By JDmysticDJ, July 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man

Your convoluted charges of Obama creating racism are absurd. You are fabricating examples of black racism where no racism exists. You are expounding on, and giving great significance to minor details, and in so doing you reveal yourself to be a racist.

Weren’t we supposed to enter a new age of tolerance with the election of Pres. Barack Obama?”

Yes.

“His half-black, half-white ancestry and broad support across racial lines suggested that at last Americans judged each other on the content of our characters — not the color of our skin or our tribal affiliations.”

His broad support did not include the right wing tribe.

“Instead, in just 18 months of the Obama administration, racial discord is growing and relations seem to have been set back a generation.”

This discord arose from the right, who wanted “their” country back, and did not want to have “Barack the Magic Negro,” for a president.

“Black voters are galvanizing behind Obama at a time of rapidly falling support amongst the far Left. White independents, in contrast, are leaving Obama in droves.”

Independent voters are reacting to the criticism of Obama and the Democrats from the left, and the false accusations from the right, which have inundated them from, to some extent, the left wing media, but primarily from the right wing media, and the main stream media. You appear to be gloating, are you attributing Obama’s falling poll numbers to Obama’s non existent racism.

“The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has claimed that the loosely organized tea parties include “racist elements.” The National Council of La Raza has ripped the state of Arizona for its new anti–illegal alien legislation. Jesse Jackson characterized aspects of the multi-million-dollar bidding war to acquire basketball superstar LeBron James in terms of masters and slaves. Pundits are arguing whether the extremist, racist New Black Panther Party is analogous to the Klan.”

The “racist elements” in the Tea Party are evident to all, but being denied by those racist elements. The evidence of racist elements is overwhelming but still denied by you and others.

People who are in this country without legal sanction are not legal, and this is a fact known by all, but reaction to this fact varies. Hispanics, which you refer to by using an inflammatory subtle pejorative, believe Arizona is guilty of an irrational xenophobia. Crime in Arizona is down, that low crime rate is most evident in the border towns according to law enforcement officials from those towns, and national studies. Arizona politicians focus on immigration issues, while they busily cut medical programs for children, funding for education, the social safety net, and sell off government buildings including the State Capitol; all this has become necessary because of insane ideology driven right wing tax policies.

LeBron James was attacked by his former coach for exercising the vaunted free market prerogatives (Actually his decision was based on personal prerogatives, but his prerogatives are his prerogatives.) He is not the property of the Cleveland Cavaliers, or his coach. Jesse Jackson’s interpretation of the events was inflammatory, but those comments pail when compared to other examples of inflammatory speech of late

The comments made by King Shamir of the New Black Panther Party were racist and much, much more, but pundits are not arguing about that fact, right wing pundits are arguing that the Obama Administration is giving preferential treatment to the New Black Panther Party, which is a false accusation and is intended to aggravate racial tensions. Get that, intended to inflame racial tensions.

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ofersince72, - “Reverend Wright is my hero ..He tells the truth..That is exactly why he is villified.  Americans can’t stand the truth.”

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On this we will never agree.  Rev. Wright is a racist of the first order.  Good grief, offersince.  One could not present a more blatant and spectacular example of hate and intolerance.  I don’t care how much “truth” you think he speaks.  Wright is a veritable poster-child for racism.

You want truth?  I fear you won’t like it, my friend.

Rev. Wright is not vilified for speaking the “truth”.  He is, rightfully so, roundly and soundly condemned from coast to coast, on all sides of ideology, for vomiting hate, ignorance and atrocious bigotry and outrageous racism.  The condemnation of Wright is exactly as it should be.  His type hate should never become acceptable.

Am I to understand that people such as this can say any repulsive thing they wish as long as they agree with your overall view of the world?  Or does United States history allow him a pass to teach insane things?

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By JDmysticDJ, July 25, 2010 at 3:57 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man (Cont. #2)

“In turn, a number of Americans want to know why — nearly a half-century after the Civil Rights Act, affirmative action, and Great Society programs — some national lobbying organizations still identify themselves by archaic tribal terms such as “colored people” or “La Raza” (“the race”) when it would be taboo for other groups to adopt such racial nomenclature.  - National Association for “the race” Advancement of White People?

The NAACP is a 100 year old association formed in a time when the word “colored” was a designation used in, much too infrequent, polite company. The association was formed by white and black founders in order to advance the interests of a group of people who were being systematically discriminated against. The Tea Party Express, Americans for Prosperity, and Freedom Works are organizations to advance the cause of Tea Partiers. The two words, La Raza, are words used to designate a movement, just as the words, Tea Party, designate a movement. Some, such as I, believe the absurd example you try to make by offering a comparison titled “National Association for “the race” Advancement for White People,”  would be an appropriate title for the Association that would oversee the activities of the Tea Party Express, Americans for Prosperity, and Freedom Works. I’ll offer what I believe to be a more appropriate title for that association, “The National Association of Stupid People Who Are Being Duped and Exploited by Rich People.” 

“Indeed, race seems to be the subtext of almost every contemporary issue, from the soaring deficit and government spending to recent presidential appointments and the enforcement of existing immigration law. In times of growing deficits, white people are stereotyped as being angry over supposedly paying higher taxes to subsidize minorities, while minorities are stereotyped as being mostly on the receiving end of entitlements.”

This comment is not social commentary, it is a veiled attempt by you to advance arguments and stereotypes put forth by the right. The entitlement programs so reviled by some, are in fact, trust funds established by legislation, the funding for which has been raided, and the funding has been inadequate in some cases. The unwarranted sense of entitlement that is most obvious is the unwarranted sense of entitlement exhibited by the richest Americans, and Wall Street criminals.

“Why the escalation of racial tension in the supposedly post-racial age of Obama?”

The post racial society was hoped for but never became a reality. The ugly beast of racism, was hidden, but reared its ugly head and became evident, and was made manifest by public portrayals, national broadcasts, public statements both written and vocal, cowardly anonymous phone calls, and less public but well known interaction between Tea Partiers, and others from the right. It was posters, racial slurs, and the very activities of the Tea Partiers and others that made race an issue, but people such as you, blame the left for pointing out the obvious, and asking the right to take action to disavow racism in their midst, the right’s response has been socially pathological.

“First, Obama’s reputation as a racial healer was largely the creation of the media. In fact, the Obama campaign had a number of racially polarizing incidents that probably would have disqualified any other presidential candidate of the past 30 years.”

It was the hope of the media, and many others, that Obama would be a “racial healer”. Any chance of racial healing was squashed, thanks to you and your ilk.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

Right now we are living in times that we don’t have
another four decades to wait for the “real” Democrat
Party to come forward, mainly because we are seeing the
“real” Democrat Pary.

  If the disaster in the Gulf didn’t wake up you
Democrat supporters just who owns this country and just
who is our real government, I am afraid to say you are
all dumbed down beyond repair.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:33 pm Link to this comment

So what Democrats are left with to disinguish
themselves from their conservative countrparts and
competition for money from the international investors

  are sensationalist news shories, mostly manufactured, like the Sherrod affair, or the Reverend Wright rants.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

Why did not Obama have two promient black Americans
oversee the rebuilding of Haiti?  Instead of the two
ex-presidents that represent everything about
imperialist America that the Haitians despise to do this?

  Whether you like Aristide or not,  he was their elected
leader.  I personally like him and read several of his
books from the eighties.  I find him to be a very
intellecual and intelligent individual that understands
the needs of the Haitians, especally after the disasters
of Western domination of their country for so many
centuries.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment

Go_Right_Young_Man

Last week about every major news service in the world
reported on this.

It started right in the beginning with the U.S.
machine gun response.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:08 pm Link to this comment

It has been evident for many decades that the two
party system is just one big duopoly, if you weren’t
convinced then, certainly the leadership of the
Democrat Party since the 2006 elections were icing on the
cake with evidence.
  Obama has had two chances to bring the Supreme Court
closer to representing a democratic republic, he has
failed on both occasions…..the latest one ,
nominating someone that was on the payroll of
Goldman/Sachs right up until her appointment by Obama
as a member of his Administration…....

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By Go Right Young Man, July 25, 2010 at 3:07 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72, - “U.S. policy rebuilding Haiti after that terrible disaster,  Is a racist act”

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How so?

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment

The two state solution will never work.

For if it weren’t for oil , no one would care about
an Arab or a Jew and once the oil is gone, once again,
no one will care about an Arab or a Jew, not even our
greedy Jewish lawmakers or the greedy Jewish international
investors of the Stock Market..
  The Israeli Jews will be left to their own and all
the War Crimes committed by the friends of the U.S.
government will be taken out on them. Not a pretty thought.
  The Jews and Arabs got along quite well before
Western intervention and colonialism as exibited by the
numbers of Jews spread out accross the Middle East in
those days and members of the governments of those countries in those days..
  It has been installed racism by Western Intervention
to gain access to the easy flow oil, so we are able to
live the leizure lifestye we live while at the same time
being the world’s largest debtor nation.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment

Both liberals and conservatives have been dumbed down
by our corporate controlled news sevices over the last
forty years,  this debate is good evidence of this.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment

Since forever, the funding of America’s public
education system has been a racist act by both parties,
especially with the property tax funding.

America continues to be an institutioal racist country,
the public for the most part has overcome racism , but
not the federal, state, or local governments.
Institutional racism thrives still in America.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 2:40 pm Link to this comment

The Reverend Write was villified because he really
does talk of God and Country.

  He should be our national spiritual leader


  God Damn America and its racist foreign & domestic
  policy

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By JDmysticDJ, July 25, 2010 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man (Cont. #3)

“His two-decade apprenticeship at Trinity United Church of Christ under the racist and anti-Semitic Rev. Jeremiah Wright has never been adequately explained. Obama indulged in racial stereotyping himself when he wrote off the white lower-middle class of Pennsylvania as clueless zealots clinging to their guns, religion, and xenophobia.”

“His two decade apprenticeship;” was Obama training to be an angry Baptist Preacher?

Have you ever known any lower-middle class Pennsylvanians? I’ve known two; they fit the stereotype perfectly. The two I knew held racist views similar to those of many Tea Partiers. 

The Right criticized Obama for attending Wright’s church, and then criticized him for not going to church often enough to hear Wright’s rants.

Wright’s Controversial Comments

“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”

Yes we did bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and most Americans feel it was justified, and aren’t batting their eyes, or giving it a second thought, but some of us, Rev. Wright and me for two, don’t feel that killing civilians in that way was justified. It was like opening Pandora’s Box, and opening that box freed all the demons, and gave legitimacy to concepts of collateral damage. .

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” (Sep 2001)

Yes we did, and have, and there is currently not enough roosts for all the chickens.

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” (2003)

“God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”

“As long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme” She is damnable, according to Wright and many others, me included.

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” (magazine article)”

Was it a wake up call, or call for more of the same?

“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” (sermon)

Wright is not the first person to point out this historical and current reality. Note the “We” I believe it to be significant. Unfortuately, in the U.S., three things are certain, death, taxes, and racism.

“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary would never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”

Let me handle that chore, Hilary I believe you’re a non-person! Hilary would argue she’s a woman, so she has experienced sexism by Rich White Men, but it’s not quite the same is it.

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Reverend Wright is my hero ..He tells the truth..
That is exactly why he is villified.  Americans can’t
stand the truth.

  God Damn America and their Uranium Depleted Warheads.

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Go Right Young Man (Cont. 4#)

Wright’s Controversial Comments (Cont.)

“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (sermon)

There are a lot of white people who think Bill was “riding dirty,” and that he “did us.”

“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

I don’t like the word Zionism; I prefer to refer to certain Israelis as occupiers, imperialists, neo-fascists, or racial and religious supremacists.

Illegal? If occupying the land of others through terrorism and force of arms isn’t illegal, it should be.

I am not an anti-Semite, I have the great respect for Jews who oppose Israeli government policies, they display a moral sophistication and courage, that is admirable and worthy of much praise. 

I also believe that the most rational solution to the conflict would be a two state solution, where neither state would interfere with the other state, and that the two nations would peacefully co-exist. The intransigence displayed, has made this goal seemingly impossible.

Wright strikes me as being a person that is tormented by anger; that is the legacy of racism.

Wright married Barack and Michelle, and baptized their two children. It’s too bad that Barack didn’t pay closer attention to Wright’s sermons.

“I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together—unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction—towards a better future for our children and our grandchildren.”

Regarding the all important Foreign Policy and National Security issues, and many econonomic issues, Obama is doing almost exactly what the right would do, why do you hate him so much? I’m the one that should hate him.


“Obama also characterized his grandmother as a “typical white person” when he implied that her supposed fear of young black males symbolizes the prejudices of the entire white community. - Let us try this on and see how it fits.  Eugene Robinson is, literally, a typical black person when he implies his fear of white people? Hmm.”

Hmm… Poor choice of words there; maybe he should have said just another honkey bitch.

Have you ever heard people advise tourists about which neighborhoods to stay out of. Have you ever heard the advice about not making eye contact? Is it difficult to get a cab if you’re black? Do you think whites are “typically” afraid of young blacks they consider to be criminals, or gang bangers? Obama needs to be very careful of the words he uses, because people like you will twist them into something they are not.

I’ve frequently heard people make racist comments, and then adamantly deny that they are racists. “Yeah, I like to disparage black people, but I’m not a racist, people need to stop being so politically correct, I guy can’t even tell a joke without someone playing the race card,” they say. Thankfully, overt racists are in the minority now, but they still exist, and they flock together under a variety of banners, one of those banners is the Tea Party banner. It shows the President of the United States with a bone in his nose. Tea Partiers think that banner is cute, and they don’t think it’s objectionable.

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By ofersince72, July 25, 2010 at 2:19 pm Link to this comment

U.S. policy rebuilding Haiti after that terrible
disaster,
  Is a racist act

  Rejecting voting rights for D.C. was a racist act.

  Defunding ACORN was a racist act.

  keep trying to ignore,  racist acts.

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

If the Republican conservative whites keep up the genocide of races other than white, sooner or later the people who are not white just may decide that it is time to unite and genocide the whites, and there are more who aren’t white that who are.

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By JDmysticDJ, July 25, 2010 at 11:26 am Link to this comment

Right Young Man (Cont. #5)

“Such campaign trash talk did not stop during the first 18 months of the Obama presidency. The race-baiting Van Jones should never have been appointed. Then, the president himself, after admitting he did not posses all the facts, criticized Cambridge, Mass., police for acting “stupidly” when they arrested his friend, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates.”

Which campaign trash talk are you talking about? I’m in the dark as to what you’re saying.

Van Jones is a long time activist for social justice; you consider that race-baiting.
“Listen up, you treat me with respect in your home or I’m going to arrest you, I’m not about to take any abuse from people of your sort.”
Sorry, that’s a stupid comment, I just made up. It sure is stupid isn’t it? I wonder whose idea it was to have a beer summit; things could have gotten nasty, with litigation and whatnot.

“Then there was the outburst of Attorney General Eric Holder, who blasted America as “a nation of cowards” for not talking more about race on his terms. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Soto mayor was almost obsessive in referring to herself as a “Latina.” She also suggested that her racial background and experiences made her “wise” in a way white male colleagues could never be.”

Eric Holder is one of the last persons I’d expect to have an “outburst.” Senator Harry Reid and Eric Holder, “dueling outbursts,” wouldn’t that be a great show. I can recall many outbursts: on the Senate floor, during Presidential addresses to Congress, at health care town hall meetings, at Tea Party gatherings and during Senate votes. Holder said we have been cowardly in discussing racial issues. Ben Jealous is no coward, good for him. I don’t recall Holder demanding that race be discussed “on his terms.” did I miss something?

I’m guessing that Sonia would make a better Latina than John Boehner, or Newt Gingrich, or even Jan Brewer. I think Sonia’s got a lock on this Latina wisdom thing as compared to white males. Maybe a white male, cross dressing, racial impersonator could give her some competition.

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By moonraven, July 25, 2010 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

Every time I come to the US, the racist hatred is more out in the open.

I was here last at the end of April in Arizona.

Now I am on the Washington/Idaho border.

Killings, lynch mob activities against African-Americans, Native Americans and Hispanics.

It is REALLY ugly.

You folks should be ashamed of yourself for supporting ongoing genocide against nnon-whites.

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By Anarcissie, July 25, 2010 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

gerard—conservatism, in its basic meaning, makes a lot of sense, especially for people with limited material, political or intellectual means.  If it worked once, it’ll probably work again.  If you’ve got something good, keep an eye on it and take care of it.  He that mindeth another’s business is like one that taketh a strange dog by the ear.  And so on.

The problem with this philosophy of life is that we live in a world of accelerating change.  It is not accelerating because of radicals, bohemians, hippies, homosexuals, and so forth; it is accelerating because of capitalism.  Ironically, American conservatives tend to cling to and worship the very thing that is radically transforming, and perhaps destroying, the world they depend on.

Hence the frequent reversion to the primitive (and false) securities of tribalism, racism, and religious bigotry, which are not conservative at all.  And the destructive playing to that reversion by sociopathic opportunists like Palin and Gingrich.

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By JDmysticDJ, July 25, 2010 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man (Cont. #6)

“Recently, Obama appealed to voters along exclusionary race and gender lines — not traditional political allegiances — when he called upon “the young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women, who powered our victory in 2008.” - One can easily imagine the outrage and cries of racism had the previous president called on “young people, European-Americans, and women to further his agenda.”

Didn’t Bush play to his base? I seem to remember something about that. Yeah… I remember, I was outraged; I still am, as a matter of fact. You’ve got me there, good point. Actually, you don’t know the half of it; Obama had this secret anti-southern strategy, strategy. It worked like a charm. Yeah… you’ve got me there, score one for the GRYMster.

“Yet the country passed the old white/black divide years ago. We are a racially diverse society of Asians, blacks, Hispanics, whites, and mixtures of all that and necessarily a guide to politics.”

Now you’re saying race doesn’t matter; I’m confused. What happened to the “Subtext of every contemporary event” deal? Didn’t you object to diversity in his administration, and say that it was creating racism?

“Who now, exactly, is the racial “Other” deserving of special consideration in hiring and education? A half-Punjabi immigrant whose father owns 500 acres? A three-quarters Puerto Rican who just arrived in New York? A Korean-American son of an orthodontist? The African-American children of a Cabinet official?”


I’d half to take it on a case by case basis. The ¾ Puerto Rican seems like a good candidate, the “others” seem to be a little questionable. Maybe the Punjabi’s father is growing dirt on his 500 acres. The market for dirt is not real strong, I don’t think. Is any body trying to corner the market on dirt? Like I said it would be a tough decision without better information; especially when I don’t have any experience with admissions, hiring and firing and whatnot. If it were me, I’d hire all illegals, they’re good workers. As far as education goes, I’d give the disadvantaged who are qualified a helping hand, if I could, but I’d probably get mobbed by angry Tea Partiers if I did.

“The more the president appeals to his base in racial terms, the more his appointees identify themselves as members of a particular tribe, and the more political issues are framed by racial divisions, so all the more such racial obsession creates a backlash among the racially diverse American people.”

Racial obsession? Hum…? Tribe? Double Hum…? Are you talking about the Latina tribe? The Wall Street tribe, the young white tribe, the women tribe, or the African American tribe…? Hum…? Maybe they are a confederation of tribes, like the Iroquois, sort of a diverse tioshpaye Administration kind of thing. Maybe Holder, Jones, and others should have identified themselves as being Swedes, Lithuanians, Icelanders, and such. Identifying his supporters by who they are is to you an attempt to exacerbate racism. Maybe blacks should change their skin color, in order not to exacerbate racism.

“America has largely moved beyond race. Tragically, our president and a host of his supportive special interests have not.”

Whenever the right talks about special interests, they are talking about unions, minorities, women’s groups, and coalitions of the powerless. We do have a problem with special interests, and we all know who the powerful special interests are, don’t we, but doing anything to curtail the power of the very real powerful special interests is un-American, isn’t it. You are nuts! And you turn logic upside down.

You are a racist, even in a treatise to accuse others of exacerbating racism; you can’t restrain yourself from making racist comments.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 25, 2010 at 9:38 am Link to this comment

ITW, kerryrose and, yes, many others conjure up “code words” and “code phrases” as evidence of hidden agendas and ill intent coming from “those bad people” who are unlike themselves.

But when anyone asks for tangible evidence of these hidden agendas nothing, whatsoever, can be produced.

I, on the other hand, actually produce evidence of an agenda, with ill intent, and it is universally ignored.  We should ask ourselves, why?


“All this hand wringing about just how awful and odious Rev. Wright remarks are just keeps the hustle going…there is no earthly reason to use our various platforms to discuss what about Wright we find objectionable.” - Chris Hayes

“If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.” - Spencer Ackerman

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Chris Hayes appears to well understand how the things Rev. Wright believes in and teaches are awful and odious, however, he deeply wished others not to talk about it. - On the other hand Mr. Hayes often makes an issue of Rev. Billy Graham and his past influence on Ronald Reagan.

Spencer Ackerman too did not want people talking about candidate Obama’s church or the racist Rev. Wright who headed that church.  Ackerman’s solution?  Choose a conservative, any conservative (who cares?), and label them racist.

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Hannity, Limbaugh, Olbermann or Hayes.  It matters none who happens to speak the garbage.  It’s putrid!

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By gerard, July 25, 2010 at 9:31 am Link to this comment

One huge problem with Conservative Americans (maybe all Conservatives?)  is their lack of ability to relate to anyone different from themselves.  We’ve been through all this over and over again throughout U.S. history.
  My working theory is that Conservatives are mainly interested in conserving their property, their possessions, their way of thinking, their inheritance etc. They routinely react negatively to change because they fear loss of ability to keep what they have.  This is, more or less, the curse of possessing things.  Possessions have a way of dominating the possessors, who, ironically, become “possessed.” (The trajectory of the words is not accidental!)
  When this condition of being “possessed” comes into play in the public arena, it is automatically in fighting mode because of fear of loss.  (“I want my country back!”) Their fear prevents them from seeing other points of view, from making decisions based on fact and reason (“Global warming is a myth.”) and from seeing future possibilities (ref. “back to” this or that past glory)
  Of course this is a huge over-simplification, and to be taken with a grain of salt, but ... liberals
need to keep such generalities in mind in the coming months and figure out the best ways to deal with them because fear and resistance to change are a real drag on the country.
  Furthermore, corporate power in government and throughout American society is a virulent indication of possessors becoming possessed by possession.

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By MarthaA, July 25, 2010 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

As far as I am concerned this Fox News propaganda episode for talking points to fool the public in an effort to give the appearance that President Obama is racist is a bunch of malarky.  As for me, I will vote for President Obama and I will vote for Democrats, because whatever the facade the Republicans put forth, it is only a facade, and the Republicans will be back at taking the country back to the Middle Ages. 

Republicans are not a choice.  Republicans own the airwaves that are suppose to belong to the public, and they definitely give Democrats a back seat, but Republicans are led by EXTREMISTS, the same EXTREMISTS that brought this country to its knees, gasping, and Republicans if given another chance will finish the job.

I will do my best to pick liberal progressive Democrats in the Primary Election and every time there is a Primary, I will vote against any Conservative Democrat, until the Democratic Party becomes representative of the populace.  Right now, the Democratic Party has been representing the populace more than any Republican ever did and in time it will get better, if many of the populace will realize they must NOT continue to string halter themselves by being Independents with NO political party, so that they can’t vote in the Democratic Party Primaries to clean up the Democratic Party, but register as Democrats so that in the Primaries the Democratic Party can be made to be what the populace want it to be.  When the populace realize that being Independent only plays into the Republicans plan to “divide and conquer”, maybe the Independent will then only be used for the purpose that Joe Lieberman used it, which is all it was set up to do, to help Republicans “divide and conquer”.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 25, 2010 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

ITW,

Through eyes of blinding hatred and fear you imagine things which are not there.  You are the minuscule minority whom see the world through the lens of race and color.  You are the true bigot.  The obvious racist.  The judge of events and words via the color of a human being’s face.

I will be here highlighting your hate whenever it raises its putrid head. 

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The NAACP charged that “elements” of the Tea Party is racist.

Palin:  “Having been on the receiving end of a similar spurious charge of racism I know how Tea Party Americans feel to be falsely accused.”

ITW: ““Get rid of your (Tea Party) racist elements” is translated by Palin to “The NAACP is calling me a racist.’ ‘Wretched lying fascist bitch.”

There it is for all to see.  Palin never, repeat never, said the NAACP had called her racist.  She was correct in saying that she has been on the receiving end of similar vile charges of racism. 

It’s not possible for me to care any less about Sarah Palin.  But that is not the point.  The point is, through hatred and fear, ITW has clearly created a phantom lie and placed it on Sarah Palin.  The “wretched lying bitch”!!!

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Why, some would ask, can I be so very certain that ITW and others are narrow minded bigots and racists?  It’s simpe.  The same margin of American voters cast their ballet for President Clinton as did President Obama.  The same margin of Bush critics are criticizing President Obama.  To over 90% of the population it’s called “politics”.

ITW will not address the most obvious items placed before his face.  No, he imagines “code words” and “code phrases” that over 90% of Americans can’t even fathom.  Why?  Most Americans are not unapologetic bigots.  Most very much wish to see past pigmentation.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 25, 2010 at 5:45 am Link to this comment

As usual GRYM is trying to obfuscate an issue among liberals the he know FULLY right-wingers fully understand.

Now it’s “community organizer”.  GRYM is playing the game that it’s supposed to be a code word for “Black”, then attacking that, when he knows full well that is NOT what the right-wing and Sarah Palin mean when they condescendingly sneer “community organizer”.

“Community Organizer” is code word for a commie socialist trouble-maker who can’t hold a REAL job. (like “Big Oil Lobbyist”—now THAT is a real job!  Or, maybe Palin’s current job as “Rabble-Rousing Lying Teaparty Speech-maker at $20,000-$50,000 a pop”)
And, of course, the “trouble-maker” part means raising the awareness of non-Whites in poor communities that there IS a better way for them.

And since Sarah Palin tossed in the crap about “Pallin’ around with terrorists” (That’s another one her lies, GRYM) “community organizer” further implies incitement to terrorism.

THAT is the right-wing $#!thead$’ message when they sneer “community organizer”.  It goes right along with the additional lie that Obama wasn’t born in the USA. (Not that John McCain was—he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, while it was under US control—only nominally being born in the USA.)

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By Go Right Young Man, July 25, 2010 at 5:06 am Link to this comment

kerryrose, - “Palin’s snide ‘community organizer.’ It is a code word, and people get it.’ - ‘Everyone seems to read between the lines but you.”

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Now “community organizer” is code too? 

Please, I beg you, try and understand how other people think. 92% of the American public heard the words “community organizer” and fully understood Palin’s, obviously belittling, sentiments to mean unqualified and inexperienced. But that’s not enough for you.  You believe you heard “Black” or “negro”? 

Read between the lines? 

You mean read into things which are absolutely not there because it’s what you and an infinitesimal minority “read” into it? 

I sincerely struggle to understand why you do not see that it is YOU who is observing the president’s skin color and placing a tremendous amount of importance on it.  It is you who can’t get past color and race.  It is you labeling “community organizers” as black when the majority of community organizers are actually white.  It is you, and those whom see the world as you do, being myopic.  You are the exception.  Not the rule.  Yes, you are the small minority who place so much importance on race.

Just think about it, please.  Because the fact is the majority of Americans today (over 90%) place color in its proper place.  Far below jobs, the deficit, unemployment, border security and Afghanistan. 

I so hope you begin to understand how you are being needlessly divisive and provocative.  It’s tremendously dangerous.

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Documents show media desire to label Obama critics as racist


“And I think this threads the needle. If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.’  ‘I’m not saying OBAMA should do this. I’m saying WE should do this.” - Spencer Ackerman,

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By drbhelthi, July 25, 2010 at 2:16 am Link to this comment

The concept of using “Race” to smear the Kenyan, Mr.
B. Hussein Obama, is just more smoke and mirrors by
the “leadership.”

It tends to incite heightened emotion, and distract
from the realistic comparison of his campaign
promises with his reversed tactic upon being
“installed.”

Trying to punish states for attempting to implement
U.S. Constitutional law, and having ones pimps in
the DOJ tell their constituents in the field to
ignore the U.S. Constitution and immigration law ?

It is time for Americans to get real.  Regardless of
their racial history.

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment

Is it Huntington or Hempstead where the local government is trying to wipe out almost half the real estate to get rid of poor people?

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By kerryrose, July 24, 2010 at 8:05 pm Link to this comment

GRYM

In the news they do not say ‘minority area’ and ‘priviledged’ area. They do not say ‘minority violence’  It is safe for someone to say ‘We should come together’ now because the vote is done.  The school is closed, and another school not being built.  The ‘coming together’ failed.

The local media will not say ‘minority area’ or ‘minority violence,’ Everyone knows.  We live here.  That’s why they closed the integrated school.

Code words.  Southern straegy.  Palin’s snide ‘community organizer.’ It is a code word, and people get it. 

Everyone seems to read between the lines but you GRYM. I keep repeating myself and you keep stonewalling, so I guess we’re finished with the discussion.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm Link to this comment

Anarcissie, - “GRYM:  Not to make a big deal of it, but you have “Black voters”, “the far Left”, and “White independents” in one paragraph, as if they are members of a series which are examples of intensified racialization.”

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I understand.  Thank you.

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

GRYM:  Not to make a big deal of it, but you have “Black voters”, “the far Left”, and “White independents” in one paragraph, as if they are members of a series which are examples of intensified racialization.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 24, 2010 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

Kerryrose,

I have been following the situation in your local area.  I’ve studied over a dozen local news accounts and police blodders.  I have yet to find anyone but yourself writing in terms of racial problems and/or segregation.  Without exception everything I have studied comes down to gun violence, drugs, gang activity and worries of children’s safety.

I remain curious as to why you’re making the issue one of race.


Rally to End Violence in Station Heats Up Town Hall Town of Huntington


Local residents brought signs and opinions to push for change in Huntington Station.

Well equipped with signs and strong opinions, more than 100 people turned out at Huntington Town Hall to rally to stop violence in Huntington Station on Wednesday.

Parents, teachers, and children alike gathered around the podium as concerned citizens spoke of the problems with lack of police presence, relaxed code enforcement, illegal housing, and increased violence in Huntington Station. Although a storm brought an ominous, almost fitting atmosphere to Town Hall, residents could be seen waving signs and handing out pamphlets to passing cars – signs and words that begged for help and support.

Among the many points touched upon, violence and police involvement were the most stressed, as well as the most problematic. According to public record, only 20 officers are on duty within the Second Precinct’s jurisdiction between the hours of 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. Many at the rally said this allows for crime to run rampant during those times in Huntington Station.

As the rally pushed on, Ilene Fucci, a Huntington mother and community activist within the Town of Huntington, shouted the need for community involvement in the mission to end violence in Huntington Station.

“We need to come together to solve these problems,” Fucci said. “We don’t want to place blame, or come down hard on the councilmen and women. ... We just need more community and police presence to be positive our streets are safe. Please, don’t wait. We need to work together now.”

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Protesters rally for Abrams school clean up

July 21, 2010 By DEBORAH S. MORRIS  

Residents from across Huntington gathered in front of Town Hall Wednesday to speak as one voice with a single message: Clean up Huntington Station.

Just two days after the Huntington School Board voted to close the Jack Abrams School to students because of continued violence in that community, a rally drew about 200 residents.

The group is demanding better enforcement of town code and…

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By PatrickHenry, July 24, 2010 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

If “they”weren’t using race to smear Obama “they” would be using something else.

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By gerard, July 24, 2010 at 2:10 pm Link to this comment

JDmysticDJ:  Your problems is you equate nonviolent resistance with giving up.  You are also too angry to take on any creative approach.  You believe in confrontation like people believe in religions—my way or the highway. Unfortunately, you have so much company that most often, even in the face of utter failure, other methods don’t get tried except in isolated situations with almost total lack of support.
  The by-now-automatic response to confrontation is up-the-ante. Viz: US/North Korea, US/Iran, US/AlQaeda, Israelis/Arabs, religious fundamentalists/religious fundamentalists, India/Pakistan, corporations/everybody else. Even in our dreams we long to “conquer space”—whatever the hell that means??? 
  As you clearly indicate in your previous post, in your terms I “lose.”  Like I care.  I’m just sorry you choose to miss the point.

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By kerryrose, July 24, 2010 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment

Redhorse

You are right.  We can be one or several of the terms on your list, but if we have money, those words are neutralized.

If we are any of the terms on the list, and POOR, then we are completely invisible.

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By Leefeller, July 24, 2010 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment

Why am I recalling how the Reverend Wright was treated all of a sudden?

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By BobZ, July 24, 2010 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment

Too bad the NAACP and the USDA overreacted so horribly this week. They had the
chance to counterpunch the right wing slime machine and went into defensive
mode instead. The ugliness of Brietbart and Fox News weren’t the news last week
unless you have been out of the country for the last two years. The real story was
the total ineptness of the NAACP which had the full tapes, and the USDA which
knew what a quality person Shirely Sherrod was. If there is any good to come out
of this, it is to learn that we really do have good honest government servants
working down in the trenches on behalf of the disadvantaged. Now if the Obama
Administration will learn to turn off the right wing postering of Fox News, and
start listening to progressives again, we might get somewhere. Still this is sad
week for America. A fine woman got trashed by the people she thought would be
covering her back.

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You hope the White House learns a lesson?

I hope White People get a clue. Stop listening to FOX.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 24, 2010 at 10:21 am Link to this comment

Anarcissie, - “You included it right after saying that signs of racial discord were increasing, as if it were an item on the list of examples.  I thought it was an odd thing to say.

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The new paragraph denotes a new line of thought, yes?

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 10:00 am Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man, July 24 at 1:26 pm:

Anarcissie, - “GRYM—The Left isn’t abandoning Mr. O because of his race.”

I have never suggested people are abandoning Obama due to race.

You included it right after saying that signs of racial discord were increasing, as if it were an item on the list of examples.  I thought it was an odd thing to say.

Mr. O abandoned the Left a long time ago, when he was finished using them.  It has taken many of them a long time to wake up to that fact.  I suppose you might say that his skin color blinded them to the fact that he’s a conservative.  But I think most of them get it by now.

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By bookmark dofollow, July 24, 2010 at 9:28 am Link to this comment

The “cheers” the other posters are referring to were the “un hunh”, “yeah”, and “that’s right” coming from the members of the audience which is heard in the background when Ms Sherrod is talking about not giving the “white” farmer the “full force of what she could do”. The only time the positive comments from the audience slow down is when Ms Sherrod states it is not always about “black” and “white”.

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Anarcissie, - “GRYM—The Left isn’t abandoning Mr. O because of his race.”

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I have never suggested people are abandoning Obama due to race.

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By Leefeller, July 24, 2010 at 8:35 am Link to this comment

Racism is just one form of division, many comments here show this. The right and the not so right uses this tactic to fine tune and fire up the ignorant, if it is not the blacks, then it is the illegitimate aliases or the gays, just keep that hate coming, need to take the focus off the real issues so the opportunists can keep raping the unfocused.

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 8:26 am Link to this comment

GRYM—The Left isn’t abandoning Mr. O because of his race.

As for some of the other phenomena, the election of a Black president has no doubt gotten some people very excited.  One does not exorcise major demons quite as easily as some columnists and bloggers would like to think.

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 7:50 am Link to this comment

JDmysticDJ—it seems obvious that if the Democratic Party can count on the faithful support of the leftists no matter what its leadership does, it will continue to move to the right.  That’s just common sense.  Their business is to gather contributions, support, votes, and offices.  If the left is permanently hooked, why do anything for them?

This is aside from moral issues, like supporting war, imperialism, terror, the abrogation of people’s rights, the expansion of the secret police, etc. etc. etc. 

Really, where are you going to draw the line?  Can you answer that question?

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Culture, class, no class, low class, caste, race, mixed race, inter-racial, zebra, gay, queer, lesbian, diesel dyke, heterosexual, straight, bi-sexual,transgendered, queen, fairy, c@#k %#cker, white, black, high yellow, golden, brown, red, half breed, nigger, kike, honkey, hippie, spic, greaser, gringo, gavacho, spade, white trash, mic, limey, dumb blonde, commie, slope, red, retard, intellectual, red skin, whop, gook, hunkey, red neck, cracker, wage slave, welfare mother, creep, slime ball, dope fiend, junky, slut, whore, tweeker, dumb ass, gimp, crip, ofey, wanker, frog, m#@%er #%ck*&, bugger, slime bucket, puke, f%&k st%$k, those people, them, and they to name a few of us.

      And the worst insult of all:POOR.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 24, 2010 at 7:43 am Link to this comment

Using Race To Smear Critics


Weren’t we supposed to enter a new age of tolerance with the election of Pres. Barack Obama?

His half-black, half-white ancestry and broad support across racial lines suggested that at last Americans judged each other on the content of our characters — not the color of our skin or our tribal affiliations.

Instead, in just 18 months of the Obama administration, racial discord is growing and relations seem to have been set back a generation.

Black voters are galvanizing behind Obama at a time of rapidly falling support amongst the far Left. White independents, in contrast, are leaving Obama in droves.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has claimed that the loosely organized tea parties include “racist elements.” The National Council of La Raza has ripped the state of Arizona for its new anti–illegal alien legislation. Jesse Jackson characterized aspects of the multi-million-dollar bidding war to acquire basketball superstar LeBron James in terms of masters and slaves. Pundits are arguing whether the extremist, racist New Black Panther Party is analogous to the Klan.

In turn, a number of Americans want to know why — nearly a half-century after the Civil Rights Act, affirmative action, and Great Society programs — some national lobbying organizations still identify themselves by archaic tribal terms such as “colored people” or “La Raza” (“the race”) when it would be taboo for other groups to adopt such racial nomenclature.  - National Association for “the race” Advancement of White People?

Indeed, race seems to be the subtext of almost every contemporary issue, from the soaring deficit and government spending to recent presidential appointments and the enforcement of existing immigration law. In times of growing deficits, white people are stereotyped as being angry over supposedly paying higher taxes to subsidize minorities, while minorities are stereotyped as being mostly on the receiving end of entitlements.

Why the escalation of racial tension in the supposedly post-racial age of Obama?

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“Public Law 107-40 Declaration for infinite War most Democrats voted for this.”

This authorization passed on Sept 18, 2001 by Congress permitted the President to use force (spend money) against those responsible for the 9-11 attack. Every American supported it.

“The Carter Administration was the first to react
to the Nicarauga revolution,  this is not right-wing
conspiracy,,  it is fact..”

It is trivia, because the revolution happened during the Carter administration. The history goes back further. In 1955, for one example, Vice President Nixon visited Somoza to sooth his anger against the US for selling cheap weaponry to Costa Rica. The revolution occurred 20 years later, and at the same time as the Iranian Revolution and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. These events together were viewed as part of an expansion of communist interests. Carter was also facing international pressure to act in Nicaragua, so it’s hardly an example of the singularity of the American political “duopoly”.

Oh, those events also derailed Carter’s push for Salt II, to limit nuclear weapons. Another “duopoly” venture.

“The Democrats escalated the war in Viet Nam
using a Gulf of Tonkin lie”

Johnson lied about the gulf incident to secure Congressional authorization for expansion of force in Vietnam. The actual impetus behind the war was not the tit-for-tat gulf incident, but the Domino Theory, which was advanced by Eisenhower in the 50’s.

His Vice President was Richard Nixon, who subsequently lost the Vietnam War, according to some in the military.

“The Republicans impeached Clinton for a sex lie.”

Impeachable offenses are defined in the Constitution. Not sure of your point here, except you’re getting a little out of control.

“Secretary of State Hilary Clinton making inane
comments and lies all around the world is not
a right-wing conspiracy…it is fact.”

No, that’s nutty.

“About every news agency in the world has reported on
the sad, irresponsible rebuilding of Haiti.”

Yet you seem to have a good Internet connection from Haiti. What? You’re not rebuilding there? Oh, you’re one of those what-I-say not what-I-do kind of people, aren’t you?

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Using Race To Smear Critics

Pt. 2

First, Obama’s reputation as a racial healer was largely the creation of the media. In fact, the Obama campaign had a number of racially polarizing incidents that probably would have disqualified any other presidential candidate of the past 30 years.

His two-decade apprenticeship at Trinity United Church of Christ under the racist and anti-Semitic Rev. Jeremiah Wright has never been adequately explained. Obama indulged in racial stereotyping himself when he wrote off the white lower-middle class of Pennsylvania as clueless zealots clinging to their guns, religion, and xenophobia.

Obama also characterized his grandmother as a “typical white person” when he implied that her supposed fear of young black males symbolizes the prejudices of the entire white community. - Let us try this on and see how it fits.  Eugene Robinson is, literally, a typical black person when he implies his fear of white people? Hmm.

Such campaign trash talk did not stop during the first 18 months of the Obama presidency. The race-baiting Van Jones should never have been appointed. Then, the president himself, after admitting he did not posses all the facts, criticized Cambridge, Mass., police for acting “stupidly” when they arrested his friend, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates.

Then there was the outburst of Attorney General Eric Holder, who blasted America as “a nation of cowards” for not talking more about race on his terms. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor was almost obsessive in referring to herself as a “Latina.” She also suggested that her racial background and experiences made her “wise” in a way white male colleagues could never be.

Recently, Obama appealed to voters along exclusionary race and gender lines — not traditional political allegiances — when he called upon “the young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women, who powered our victory in 2008.” - One can easily imagine the outrage and cries of racism had the previous president called on “young people, European-Americans, and women to further his agenda.

Yet the country passed the old white/black divide years ago. We are a racially diverse society of Asians, blacks, Hispanics, whites, and mixtures of all that and more. In a world of conservative Cubans and liberal whites, race is no longer necessarily a guide to politics.

Who now, exactly, is the racial “Other” deserving of special consideration in hiring and education? A half-Punjabi immigrant whose father owns 500 acres? A three-quarters Puerto Rican who just arrived in New York? A Korean-American son of an orthodontist? The African-American children of a Cabinet official?

The more the president appeals to his base in racial terms, the more his appointees identify themselves as members of a particular tribe, and the more political issues are framed by racial divisions, so all the more such racial obsession creates a backlash among the racially diverse American people.

America has largely moved beyond race. Tragically, our president and a host of his supportive special interests have not.

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By JDmysticDJ, July 24, 2010 at 7:33 am Link to this comment

Ofersince72

My most recent post was meant for gerard. It would be mostly irrelevant if it were intended for you.

We agree on many things, but we disagree on the best course of action to take. I believe that rightists are pleased with this dispute between you and me, and that you are serving the interests of the right (Corporatists, warmongers, etc.) Let me restate my position one more time.

It’s clear that the Democratic Party has been moving to the right, in terms of foreign and economic policy, for quite some time now. It’s clear that many Democrats have supported right wing policies, but it’s also clear that the opposition to those right wing policies came from the left, including the left wing of the Democratic Party.

I believe that events could cause the Democrats to retreat from current policies, and that those same events would cause the Republicans to escalate current policies, and that abandoning the Democrats will lead to the right’s return to power. I believe that we are currently in a seemingly insurmountable morass on many, many, levels. I don’t believe that enabling the right is the best course of action to take, and that that is exactly what you’re doing.

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 5:55 am Link to this comment

Another sad fact for you JD

About every news agency in the world has reported on
the sad, irresponsible rebuilding of Haiti.  This nation
as suffered and been povertized by Western powers since forever

The American government has refused them self-determination.

The rebuilding after that terrible disaster is shameful.
Obama responded originally with machine guns instead
of food and water.  It really hasn’t got much better still
This is not right-wing conspiracy…..it is fact ........

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 5:41 am Link to this comment

The fact is JD, no matter who is in the majority
Republican or Democrats it is always perpetual war
against weaker nations to steal their resources for
International Investors.

  We turn a blind eye and point fingers, which serves
the duopoly well.

  “Your a racist”......“Well , your a tax and spender”
same story, over and over.
I don’t play it…...I wish others didn’t.!!!!

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 5:12 am Link to this comment

Secretary of State Hilary Clinton making inane
comments and lies all around the world is not
a right-wing conspiracy…it is fact.

  Harry Truman getting the U.S. into a needless war
in Korea….is not a right-wing conspiracy ,  it is fact
many, many , lies were told.

  Another really really inane war,  the Cold War, brought
to you by Democrats.

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 5:04 am Link to this comment

The Republicans impeached Clinton for a sex lie.

  The Democrats said impeachment is off the table
  for war lies, crimes, and torture….

this is not right-wing conspiracy,  it is   fact…

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 5:00 am Link to this comment

The Democrats escalated the war in Viet Nam
using a Gulf of Tonkin lie, this war was dumped on the
Nixon Administration

This is not right-wing conspiracy,,  it is fact.

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 4:49 am Link to this comment

The Carter Administration was the first to react
to the Nicarauga revolution,  this is not right-wing
conspiracy,,  it is fact..

the Democrats controlled the House and Senate during
the eighties funding atrocities in Cental America, this
is not a right-wing consiracy, it is fact.

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 4:43 am Link to this comment

Public Law 107-40   Declaration for infinite War
  most Democrats voted for this.

  I don’t believe that the Afghans want to here about
a right wing conspiracy when the U.S. legislature
is controlled in both houses by Democrats.

  An International Investor conspiracy would be more
accurate.  And both parties are equally indebted to them.
As more and more austerity programs are poured upon the
citizens of the US , JD, you will have a better understanding of hisory.

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ofersince72, July 24 at 2:14 am #

I hope you accept my apology ITW. I am sorry if my
anger was aimed in the wrong direction.

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Yup. Glad to see you’re a big enough person to admit it.  You just gained respect from me.

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By ofersince72, July 24, 2010 at 4:33 am Link to this comment

I am not on here for on upmanship JD
Your interpretation of history does not even correspond
with mainstream recorded fact, let alone the alternative
history as recorded by the likes of Zinn , Chomsky,
Parenti and others.

The fact is,  the Democrats had a filibuster proof
Senate, a huge majority in the House and a Dem Pres and
still found a way to deny D.C. voting rights, you can’t
blame that on a right-wing conspiracy just like you are
trying to do with the rest of post WWII history.
I don’t have anything to lose JDMysticDJ, but the rest
of the world sure does if we keep electing war mongers
what is just what the Dems and Pubs are.
If I remember, Bill Clinton was president for most
of the ninties decade you speak of JD.
House 356—65   pro war
Senate even worse…...... lots of Dems in that vote
that is fact not a right wing conspiracy.
IRAN SANTIONS AND DISINVESTMENT ACT
99—- 0 Senate
408—8 House.
That is not a right wing conspiracy, it is fact.
you keep throwing speculation,  I will keep throwing fact.

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I have the feeling that our country has entered a “mini reconstruction era”.

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By ofersince72, July 23, 2010 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment

I hope you accept my apology ITW. I am sorry if my
anger was aimed in the wrong direction.

Race isn’t the issue, blacks don’t care who call them
what, they care about the institutional racism.

  I hate to see the Dem pundits and media keep diverting
all their issues to race in order to cover their inept
performance.  I don’t trust Gen. Electric media,
Murdock media, or any of them.  I still believe the
Sarrod affair was a manufactured media event to create
the kind of diversions we have seen right here on
Truth Dig.  This conversation hasn’t helped one black
American and was only aimed to get votes for the Democrat
Party.  JD, we are all part of the problem, me no more
than you.  I do not agree with your interpretation of
history one little bit. Next you are going to say that
Code Pink is responsible for the genocide in Iraq because
they protested and I still can’t vote for war.

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By JDmysticDJ, July 23, 2010 at 9:59 pm Link to this comment

The falling heads metaphor was, metaphorical. I will celebrate the metaphorical fall or every right wing head that values their failed, murderous, ideology more than they value human life. I’m sorry if that bothers you, at present, nothing pleases me more than seeing those heads fall (Metaphorically.)

Your suggested policy of non-confrontation is a failed policy and that should be obvious to you. Do you think that the right will suddenly change their ways if we are nice to them. I want their heads; I want to see their heartless, murderous, and disastrous policies thrown in the trash heap of history, and examined by those in the future, who seek to learn from the mistakes of history. This struggle makes my life have meaning; I feel more alive in an existential sense. Giving up would be like dying.

“Does it lead to solutions involving mutual understanding, interest-based bargaining, creative solutions?”

Where have you been? Do you follow politics at all? Where were you during the first decade of the 21st Century? Where were you when the Republicans goose stepped in lock step, to block modest legislation that would save lives, legislation to correct the deregulatory problems that nearly caused the worlds economic systems to collapse, and caused massive human suffering and anguish by the unemployed, do you know about the ongoing ecological disaster we’ve had. I realize it’s a memory stretch for you, but did you know that rational, verified, documented, scientific studies, report that right wing policies caused the deaths of over 2 million people in Iraq since 1990, and God knows, that far, far, too many of them were children. How many more will die, how much of our wealth will be squandered? How long will we be occupying foreign lands? Would you like to go farther back in history, to examine what right wing policies have wrought? The best people in Central America were dragged from their homes in the middle of the night, tortured, murdered, and their bodies were dumped in land fills; Priests, Nuns, College professors, Students, Union Organizers, anyone with liberal beliefs, and peasants. It was right wing policy to finance and supply murderous Jihadist warlords, because of geopolitical cold war objectives. Right wing agents instigated wars, overthrew popularly elected governments, turned Indochina and Indonesia into a blood baths and on and on… You want me to be nice to them?

Give it up! If you and I are engaged in one-upsmanship; you lose.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 23, 2010 at 7:39 pm Link to this comment

Ofersince72—is that because you were on acid until then?

How else would you explain that insane attack on me—based on my response to Azcat’s racist assertions that all Blacks were lazy and that they had no barriers since the 50’s, and I pointed out a few of those very real barriers.

Then, even when someone pointed out to you that I was rebutting Azcat, you continued the attack on me, calling me a racist in your personal style of serial posting.

Why don’t you go back and READ what I wrote—I quoted Azcat’s hateful remarks and then rebutted them.

I hate mental constipation combined with digital diarrhea.

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By gerard, July 23, 2010 at 7:32 pm Link to this comment

JDNysticDJ”  Lots of heads are falling every day, for all the good it does. Heads falling bothers me. Conflict doesn’t bother me so long as its goal is the solution of problems,  Sad to say, most conflict ends up being an exercise in one-upsmanshiop and confrontation generally leads only to counter-confrontation. 
  The Right Wing loves confrontatio, viz. Fox News.  Confrontation makes people feel “alive, partcipating, helping to clairy issues” etc. etc. Does it lead to solutions involving mutual understanding, interest-based bargaining, creative solutions?  Seldom. sad to say.
  I suggest we should try to move beyond it—even in these online comments whose very set-up stimulates confrontation.  You never know when someone will come up with something new—if we make room for it.

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By Go Right Young Man, July 23, 2010 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment

The NAACP charged that “elements” of the Tea Party is racist.


Palin:  “Having been on the receiving end of a similar spurious charge of racism I know how Tea Party Americans feel to be falsely accused.”

ITW: ““Get rid of your (Tea Party) racist elements” is translated by Palin to “The NAACP is calling me a racist.’ ‘Wretched lying fascist bitch.”

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ITW,

It’s not possible for me to care any less about Sarah Palin.  Ms. Palin’s statement, however, could not have been simpler.  She was correct in saying that she has been on the receiving end of similar charges of racism.  She said that she understood how protesters and critics alike have been feeling over the past 18 months.  The end.

Now if you can turn that into some “BIG LIE” you are clearly creating phantoms rooted from unchecked hatred.  Hate blinds the mind.  Drop the hate and you’ll have an opportunity to see Palin’s words for what they are.  You don’t have to agree with her.  More importantly, she doesn’t need to agree with you!

Bottom line: You created the lie.  From your mind to Palin’s phantom “wretched ‘bitch’ mouth”.  I have seen you do this time and time again on a slew of issues. Your unambiguous hate for some human beings trumps simple reason.

Drop the hate.

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By Leefeller, July 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm Link to this comment

As the inequities of society accumulate and times keep on getting harder for more people, me thinks the bigotry card will be used more and more often. Racism is only one card, religion, politics, economics and any other differences one can conjure up will be used to attack perceived injustices and place blame.  Unfortunately they do not have to be real or true, just believed to be true in the mind of the alleged abused.

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By Anarcissie, July 23, 2010 at 6:35 pm Link to this comment

Azcat85, July 23 at 7:35 pm:

‘ofersince72,

Your words: “The economic conditions that blacks have suffered and still do because of POLICY by both parties
is a racist act.”

What policies are in effect today that economically restrict the black population? ...’

Generally, any set of policies whereby class disparity increases.

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By JDmysticDJ, July 23, 2010 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment

Azcat85

“…left their families and did not advance.  Pride and ego took precedence over doing what was required to advance.”

You ignore the psychological aspects of centuries of slavery, (Actual and de facto,) and discrimination. The data you offer only illustrates the problem. A sociologist would examine the data and ask why. I’m not a sociologist, but common sense tells me that peoples who have suffered, and are suffering, under racism would not be inclined to embrace the societal institutions that have abused them, and even if they were so inclined, the realities of their existence would be difficult to overcome. Before one can pull himself up by his bootstraps, he must have bootstraps.

The hope by many is that conditions will improve, but people like you, who make comments like a$$monkeys, are not contributing to improved conditions, quite the contrary.

Your anecdotal stories are just a few of many anecdotal stories which are based on actual events that have been occurring throughout the centuries. The sad truth is, as I’ve witnessed, blacks are treated unfairly, but without blatant face to face racism, as long as they shuck and jive, and don’t cease taking a submissive position. Of course there are people, like I believe you to be, who will backbite and use racial slurs, if they think they can do so without recriminations.

Things are getting better, young people have a much better attitude about race in racially mixed neighborhoods, than their parents did. Like Obama, my grandkids are half black, they excel academically and athletically, and they are good kids, but they are not free from racial discrimination.

Did 10 and 12 year old ghetto kids make you a racist, or are you just mean spirited and stupid.

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By ofersince72, July 23, 2010 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

This country is really screwed and deserves every bad
thing that is going to happen to it.

  Not many blacks in discussion are there ? ?

  Don’t much blame them…...Republicans are repulsive
  and Democrats live in denial.

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