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Posted on Sep 18, 2011
White House / Pete Souza

By E.J. Dionne, Jr.

With apologies to Winston Churchill: The talk in the political class is that this is the beginning of the end of the Obama administration, while the talk in the Obama administration is that this is the end of the beginning. Which will it be?

Last week was not exactly what President Obama hoped for when he rolled out his big jobs initiative. He expected push back from Republicans. He did not anticipate the resistance he is getting from Democrats—or, perhaps more to the point, he did not expect the questions about the bill that might inevitably arise on his side to get quite so much attention.

The administration’s own strategy was clear enough, and for the first few days it was working as planned. By putting together a rather large but relatively uncontroversial package of measures to boost the economy, Obama sought to put the Republicans on the defensive and to rally Democrats, including his progressive critics, behind a push for action.

In a series of campaign-style rallies, Obama exuded new energy. The friendly crowds he gathered radiated with a spirit that has been largely absent since the 2008 campaign. Cries of “Pass this bill!” seemed comfortingly similar to the old shouts of “Yes, we can!” And the initial response from congressional Republicans—they pointedly did not reject all of his ideas—suggested that things just might be turning the president’s way. The poll ratings of congressional Republicans, after all, are awful. Their leaders sensed that rejectionism might not be good politics.

But then the Democrats lost two special congressional elections and the administration proposed to pay for its $447 billion jobs plan with a combination of tax increases that it had proposed before and that Congress had rejected.


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The elections brought to the surface all of the anxiety Democrats feel about 2012. And while Obama’s broadly progressive set of tax increases on special interests and higher-income Americans made perfect sense on its own, it risked being picked apart by particular constituencies. Oil state Democrats will always defend Big Energy and, in any event, the package couldn’t feel like a new departure because it wasn’t.

Senate Democrats, moreover, have been a problem for Obama from Day One. Because Republicans can block almost anything with their routine abuse of the filibuster, and because key Democrats who represent very conservative states are by nature balky, assembling even a majority of Senate Democrats is always an excruciating challenge.

The administration is also suffering because of its failure from the beginning to pay enough attention to courting its own side. At a moment when Obama desperately needs Democratic solidarity, there is no reservoir of good will from which he can draw.

There are many ironies in Obama’s situation. The president’s fiery rhetoric and his challenge to Republicans directly respond to long-simmering Democratic frustration over his reluctance to confront the GOP. Yet this strategy only works if Obama can concentrate on a single political front without the distraction of dissent from his own ranks. When Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell can take to the Senate floor and cite Democratic criticism of the president’s jobs bill, as he did last week, it undercuts the entire campaign.

And while the president’s proposals this week for a long-term balanced budget will be more to the liking of Democrats than were the concessions he made to House Speaker John Boehner during the debt-ceiling battle (concessions Boehner turned down), some of the cuts Obama suggests will present a new target for his critics inside the party. Here again, the president’s broad idea—short-term stimulus coupled with long-term deficit reduction—is sensible. In principle, at least, it unites the center and the left. Yet if Democrats focus more on their areas of disagreement, more time will be lost and Obama’s jobs campaign will be stalled again.

Obama and his party are grappling with the “tragedy of the commons” in a classic form. Obama, who has been so happy to stay distant and above the concerns of his Democratic allies, cannot afford to lose them now. Democrats in Congress have a long list of reasons for being resentful. The special elections will aggravate their fears of embracing the president too closely.

Yet if Obama’s presidency is weakened further, the resulting damage will afflict Democrats as a whole. However justified their past grievances might be, they have a powerful collective interest in seeing the fighting Obama get his new act off the ground.

E.J. Dionne’s e-mail address is ejdionne(at)
© 2011, Washington Post Writers Group

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By Inherit The Wind, September 22, 2011 at 3:45 am Link to this comment

I’d laugh at the “Hissing Cockroach = Republican” if I could.  Because that’s 100% correct and somehow, I should laugh but I can’t.

It’s just too true to be funny.  Maybe later I’ll crack a smile…

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By Inherit The Wind, September 22, 2011 at 3:40 am Link to this comment

delphine herbert, September 19 at 2:34 pm Link to this comment
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Why hasn’t harry reid called the Republicans bluff by actually insisting that they REALLY filibuster?

And in this statement, you have the heart of the problem: It’s not JUST Obama: it’s the Democratic leaders who were spineless BEFORE Obama was a Senator, when they were in the minority in both Houses, when Obama became a Senator and they now had a majority in both houses, and when Obama became President and, for two years they controlled all 3.

Do I blame Obama? Sure. He’s President. He is the ONE SINGLE individual who can do the most.  But he came into and was groomed by a school of Democrats who rolled over when Cheney threatened to FORCE an up-or-down vote on nominations in violation of the Senate rules, and Reid caved allowing Roberts and Alito to get on the court.  Troy Davis’s illegal and unconstitutional execution yesterday was the result, ie, the legal system killing a citizen without proof beyond a reasonable doubt. (when all you have are 9 eyewitnesses and 7 say they were beaten into it by cops, I’d think that certainly introduces a REASONABLE doubt).

But I digress. The cowardice of the Dems all the way back then falls on the Senate leadership.  That means Harry Reid.

So…the Big Sellout that is Barack Obama is not just the man himself. There isn’t one Democratic Senator I can think of who isn’t a total sellout, and Bernie Sanders isn’t a Democrat.  Will Elizabeth Warren be different? I hope so.

As for Congress? Pelosi’s tougher than Reid, but she lost the House, yet kept the leadership (could be worse: could be Steny Hoyer).  Still, the House has been losing Dems resigning due to dirty pockets and un-zipped flies at an alarming rate, as if they were Republicans.  Your nation and your party are in a disaster, with catastrophe looming, and you’re taking a kick-back or trying to get some on the side?  How many kinds of asshole does it take to do that?

My point is that Obama isn’t a single blemish, an oddity.  He is merely typical of where the Democratic party has let itself slip to.  It was there before he became a Senator, when he was Senator, and now that he’s President.  We KNOW the GOP has gone bat-shit crazy, suicidal even, in the name and pursuit of God, Jesus, “Patriotism”, unbridled Capitalism, and War.  The only thing keeping us from goose-stepping and summary executions is the feeble, corrupt, and generally blind Democratic party.

And they have done an horrible job of it, step by step, since the collapse in the election of 1994.

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By Samson, September 22, 2011 at 12:05 am Link to this comment

And, across the country, a third of these con-men
Democrats will run their next Senate campaign saying
they are on the side of the people against the evil
Republicans.  As it has been for a long time, this is
a lie, as they’ll act just like Republicans when they
get to the Senate.

Remember that even during the span when they had 60
Democrats in the Senate, they still wouldn’t do a
dang thing to help anyone who isn’t a banker.

And, there are easy counter-strategies to the
filibuster which the Senate Dems routinely refuse to
use.  They don’t for instance attach something good
to a bill the Republicans want and thus won’t
filibuster.  The Dems use the Repub threats of a
filibuster as an excuse and cover for the Dems acting
just likee Republicans anyways.

There’s an easy answer to this. Learn that you don’t
get change by voting Democrat.  (D) is for Liar.

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By Shenonymous, September 21, 2011 at 8:23 am Link to this comment

If you want some music, try the Modest Mouse’s
No tequila needed.  It is inebriating enough.

“Doin’ The Cockroach”

I was in heaven
I was in hell
Believe in neither
But fear them as well
This one’s a doctor
This one’s a lawyer
This one’s a cash fiend
taking your money
Back of the metro
Ride on the greyhound
Drunk on the Amtrak
Please shut up
Another rider
He was a talker
Talking about TV
Please shut up
This one’s a crazer
Daydreaming disaster
The origin of junk food
Rutting through garbage
Tasty but worthless
Dogs eat their own shit
We’re doing the cockroach yeah
Doin the cockroach yeah
Doin the cockroach yeah (all right, not bad)
One year
Twenty years
Forty years
Fifty years
Down the road in your life
You’ll look in the mirror
And say, “My parents are still alive.”
You move your mouth
You shake your tongue
You vibrate my eardrums
You’re saying words
But you know I ain’t listening
You’re walking down the street
Your face
Your lips
Your hips
Your eyes
They meet
You’re not hungry though
Well late last winter
Down below the equator
They had a summer that would make you blister
Oh my mind is all made up
So I’ll have to sleep in it

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By Leefeller, September 21, 2011 at 8:00 am Link to this comment

Here are some friends and folks working on the Republican Theme song! I was in the back protecting my Tequila!

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By Shenonymous, September 21, 2011 at 7:48 am Link to this comment

Make that:
This is important information you won’t want to miss.
P.S.  If the address does not link properly, just copy/paste it into
your browser web addressing line.

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By Shenonymous, September 21, 2011 at 7:42 am Link to this comment

Mention fair share and the Republican roaches and their
blog trolls haul themselves out of the woodwork.  There
are about 4,500 different subspecies of roaches.  While
earliest known modern cockroaches appeared in the
Cretaceous period, a new 21st century one has joined the
fatally infectious vermin category in the taxonomy called
Republicanus blatta americana, or Hissing Republicanus
for short. The Hissing Republicanus has a sense of critical
mass and group themselves in controlled collectives, the
collective is their support system. Their behavior as collectives
is how they hunt for their victims using vacuous but self-
serving sloganism.  Research shows they have group-based
decision-making behavior.  Cockroaches are among the
hardiest insects on the planet, but take heart, they are not
as environmentally resistant as the Liberal Fruit Fly.

As the scavangers that they are, the cockroach Republicanus
blatta americanus feed on underprivileged humans and leave
an offensive stinking odor as they take their spoils back to
their Corporatocratic Party.  If you want to find them just
follow the smell.  They are group decision-makers where the
benefit of the Party overrules individuals as seen in their
swarming habit where all speak from a pre-written script of
Republican commandments.

For more information on Republicanus Blatta americana, see

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By Lafayette, September 21, 2011 at 1:12 am Link to this comment


LO: Americans are beginning to understand how the media is manipulated by the right wing, including bloggers who only job is to write negative comments about President Obama every where they can.

Yes, so let’s NOT FEED THE TROLLS. Ignore the dolts.

They have Zero Value-Added to a positive debate; they keep posting the same tiring, defamatory nonsense. Yes, we could all use some Constructive Criticism, but the tsunami of Nattering Negativism is useless forum-chaff.

Besides, constructive criticism is likely beyond the intellectual capacity of these Benighted Bloggers shilling for the anti-progressive factions.

(And, yes, I should take my own advice.)

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By Lafayette, September 20, 2011 at 11:37 pm Link to this comment


This announcement, especially the president’s threat to use the veto, demonstrates clearly the extent to which we have (for the past thirty years since Reagan), entered into a Class War between the haves and the have-nots.

Let us hope that next year’s election will determine definitively what Americans want - less Income Unfairness by means of higher taxation of the rich and super-rich or more of the status quo that condemns far too many to an incarceration in perpetual poverty.

Let’s hope as well that the current polemical fire will prompt them to, at least, go out and vote.

We live in interesting times ...


And let us pray that our differences go no further than the ballot box. With the killing of Davis in Georgia, his conviction unsubstantiated by the evidence presented, there is today a clear possibility for Watts2 breaking out somewhere in America.

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By Lee Oates, September 20, 2011 at 11:11 pm Link to this comment

To Litlbluedot and ElkoJohn;

Americans are beginning to understand how the media is manipulated by the right wing, including bloggers who only job is to write negative comments about President Obama every where they can.  Awarness is spreading and you may find yourself without a job after the next election.

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By Litl Bludot, September 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm Link to this comment

Here’s the only chance left. Get rid of Obama. Support a real progressive. Join a group of people looking for an alternative.

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By ElkoJohn, September 20, 2011 at 7:54 pm Link to this comment

fool me twice (or more)
shame on me

heard this crap before

bait & switch the progressives
throw them under the bus

and the republicans made him do it

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By Hollywood Russ, September 20, 2011 at 2:41 pm Link to this comment

Americans are so used to mediocrity that when they are presented with greatness,
they react with confusion. Barak Obama is a great man, a great American and a
great President. He has acted with moderation and discretion at all times. He’s
been a President that all Americans can be proud of. I hope he wins in 2012. I
hope he wins for a variety of reasons. I believe that the Supreme Court has been
taken over by right-wing extremists. If Obama gets four more years, perhaps we
can count on lazy ol’ Thomas or incredibly old Kennedy will resign and we can get
in one or two more justices who have brains and compassion. (Not that I imagine
Thomas has either in large quantity.) We also need to cement a Democratic
takeover of Congress. The Senate looks grim, but the House is always open to wild
swings. Maybe we can get it to swing over for the beginning of Obama’s second
term. At all costs, the Democratic Party needs to hold onto the Executive Office.
Obama in 2012!

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By Lee Oates, September 20, 2011 at 9:22 am Link to this comment

We elected a man to bring serious change to the direction we were going in as a nation. When he failed to instantly resolve all our problems (the McDonald mentality) we failed to back him (like Health care)and went back to watching Jerry Springer and Glen Beck. Obama did not fail the American people, the people failed Obama and themselves. We are a nation primarily with an attention span of about 30 seconds, reading skills that average grade 6, and a social maturity level of a 10 year old child…..apologies to 10 year old children. smile

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By bonito, September 20, 2011 at 8:35 am Link to this comment

It is too bad that We Senior Citizens may not be
around to see this catastrophe We used to call
Democracy shake out. I do not believe that our
Constitution has let us down, but those We elected
and took an oath to uphold this unique Document,
certainly have.

What better time then now to foment Revolution, can
anything one can think of be worse than Our present
course to destruction than the Enigma, presenting a
Dilemma that We now face in these trying times. We
can no longer place Our trust in Our Congress nor the
President, and, certainly not any of the Corporate
Shills that he has appointed to his Cabinet. Should
Revolution come, that would be much better received
in the public domain then to go quietly into that
good night presented by the Republicans as a cure all
for the many problems of the hour.

Should the Workers of this nation survive in the
near future, the destruction of everything they hold
dear, those that are left will seize the opportunity
to build an even better society.

To me it has become quite clear that the Republicans
are out to cut the wages of the U.S. Worker at least
by half, and dream of even reducing them to the
pittance of the 19th Century. In their mind set this
would be the only way that We may compete with the
slave labor in many other countries.

  Do not Lock and Reload,  REVOLT

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By Leefeller, September 20, 2011 at 6:37 am Link to this comment

First of all, we are supposed to be a representative republic, we are not a democracy in the true sense, like Ancient Greece was a true democracy and far as I know the only one to have existed.

I see our nation slipping into a form of fascism, where minorities and special interests control the direction of things, hence corporations are people to, just as talking to the hand has become talking to the money.

So even in our alleged republic, the majority of the people are manipulated, even controlled by the whims and agendas of the few, so we are not a democracy. Apparently the Republicans are representative of the few and the Democrats provide the illusion they represent the many, this remains to be seen. Obama has turned out on the bully pulpit, after the first three years his sincerity is questionable.  Hope and change all over again, seems to be the better choice for now compared to the bend over and spread them Republican/Tea Bags!

Now I am not overly pleased or even mildly pleased by Obama’s performance, but I know I will not be pleased by any Republican, the Perry or Romney corporate drag queen whores,... my apologies to drag queens and whores.

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By scotttpot, September 20, 2011 at 3:03 am Link to this comment

If the leader of the Democratic party cannot get a majority of the members of his
party to back his proposal ,why are they called Democrats.
How do you back Big OIl and remain a Democrat?
America is a sham democracy.

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By scotttpot, September 20, 2011 at 2:57 am Link to this comment

We have to thank President Obama who has been able to show us repeatedly the
truth that America is a sham democracy.

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By Lee Oates, September 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm Link to this comment

I’ll believe in America again when Bush and Cheney are arrested and tried as war criminals, when the US quits invading other countries, when the government works for the good of the average American instead of the rich and corrupt.  This country is currently being taken over by right wing nuts, who lie, cheat, and steal from America.  Their actions are bankrupting the country and will eventually lead to WWIII.  We are failing to protect our rights and freedoms as responsible citizens.

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By Leefeller, September 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm Link to this comment

Today Obama drew a line in the sand and called the Speaker of the House Stupid!  I believe the president has been reading my posts and is catching on!

As for people saying they are not voting, the Republicans are doing their best to make it so many people cannot vote, seems a moot point saying one will not vote. Maybe the Republicans instead of conjuring up all kinds of rules and regulations and time lines and photo identifications in order to make it harder for selected segments of the people to not vote, maybe all the Republicans need to do is politely ask people not to vote, especially when looking at the crappy choices running on the Republican…Imbeciles are US ticket!

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By keepyourheaddown, September 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm Link to this comment

the entire government is a sad pathetic fucking joke…
Nothing will change until everything is destroyed…
and you all know its true…
everything else is just bullshit useless talk…
total crap…
Nuclear war is the only solution…

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By Deja Vu, September 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment
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I had wished I had a direct line to Obama to warn him off his ‘accommodating approach’ to politics. It reminded me too much of when the NDP party won power for the first time in Canada’s lead province of Ontario. The NDP, a true liberal party, had always been branded by opponents as the party of unions. Bob Ray in his desire to show he and his party were the government for all people played to Canada’s version of Wall St., the being Toronto’s Bay St. Needless to he and they alienated their base and when the next election came about Bay St. got their wish and Ontario elected a Conservative government. Circa 1990-95

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By Rixar13, September 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

“The friendly crowds he gathered radiated with a spirit that has been largely absent since the 2008 campaign.”

We’ve been here all along… smile grin

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By Lee Oates, September 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

President Obama’a biggest mistake was trying to listen to and include the Republicans in the business of running this country.  The Republicans and the bluedogs did everything possible to block anything he attempted to, at the expense of the nation.

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By aacme88, September 19, 2011 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment

The president only evidences concern for the things Dems and progressives care about at election time. If nobody rallies to his cause this time, he has nobody to blame but himself, and the lamest set of advisers in history.
From now on, if there is a “from now on” in this country, “Pulling an Obama” will describe the practice of campaigning to your base and governing to your ostensible opponents, unless Obama proves that, once and for all, a surefire path to a one-term presidency.

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By Lee Oates, September 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment

Obama is one of finest Presidents America has ever had.  The problem is that he is leading a nation where the majority of citizens are poorly educated halfwits, who will believe anything they are told by the Republicans, bluedog Democrats, and Corporations. Add to this the element of Racism that defines the character of these same halfwits, and Obama finds himself in a no-win situation.  These halfwits will destroy their own country in order to get a black man out of office.

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By Michael Cavlan RN, September 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm Link to this comment

As usual
the truth basing trolls on this site do not get it. We have a common enemy. The corporate money that owns both political parties.

Chris Hedges ROCKS

See some of you October 5th in DC

To the rest, keep blogging and complaining and making apologies for a rotten, corrupt, pro-war system.

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By anaman51, September 19, 2011 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment

This is one reason the Democrats frequently fail to get anything done—-they have no party unity. Across the playing field, the other team doesn’t have this problem. If the GOP team members fail to support the party line, they find themselves outside looking in. Leaders in the Democratic Party have become adept at shooting themselves in the foot. The trouble is, those of us who depend on them for support against the anti-humanitarian agenda of the GOP get shot in the foot right along with them. Get it together, will you? We have a common enemy, and it is the same entity that owns and operates the Republican Party—-America’s elite rich.

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By Litl Bludot, September 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment

Those who believe that Obama really intends to tax the rich are completely clueless. This is another fake proposal he will abandon, like “the public option”, that makes poor liberal fools believe that he is really on their side. He’s a corporate fascist posing as a liberal black president. Until you deluded souls realize it, you will continue to read corporate shills like Dionne, and believe the nonsense he writes.

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By bonobo65, September 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm Link to this comment

This is the point:  All of Congress, both Democrats and
Republicans alike need to do what is right for the
whole country, and for heaven’s sake, get over their
feelings of unhappiness toward Pres. Obama.  Stop
pouting!  Get to work!

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By delphine herbert, September 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm Link to this comment
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Why hasn’t harry reid called the Republicans bluff by actually insisting that they REALLY filibuster?

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By diamond, September 19, 2011 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

As usual the Democrat-bashing trolls on this site will do anything rather than face the facts. When George W. Bush talked about the Republican ‘base’ he wasn’t talking about working class Americans, he was talking about the super rich and the corporations. They are the ‘base’ and they don’t want to pay their taxes. They regard paying their taxes as optional but they can only take that stance because everyone else, like a waitress working in a coffee shop or someone working on a construction site has no choice. They have to pay. George W. Bush gave $80 billion in tax cuts to the super rich and this would build a hell of a lot of infrastructure and create a lot of jobs. Bush and his party bankrupted America and Reagan sent American manufacturing offshore, destroying millions of jobs and turning thousands of American towns into wastelands so he could destroy the unions in manufacturing. He also created a $4 trillion deficit by the time he left office by giving huge tax cuts to the super rich and fighting wars that America didn’t need to fight, so I find it sickeningly deceptive to claim that the Democrats are somehow blocking Obama’s sensible and moderate measures to reduce the deficit to a manageable level and create jobs. The elephant in the room is the Republican elephant, as it always is. I also find it beyond incredible that Dionne thinks that America’s tragic position - financially, militarily and legally- is not important. What is really important, it seems, is whether or not everyone in the Democrat party loves Obama. Reforming leaders have a hard row to hoe, it was ever thus, but if a leader can’t reform when America is not only on its knees but lying in the gutter, then America has ceased to be a democracy and become what Noam Chomsky said it was: a polyarchy, which means rule by an elite. Or, if you prefer, the base.

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By LadyR, September 19, 2011 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment
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I won’t be voting either. I’m done.

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By adc14, September 19, 2011 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

This is what you get for trashing the person that brung ya to the dance. Obama was happy enough to throw progressives to the wolves in the name of some mythical bipartisanship. He stacked his cabinet with corporate shills and fired/silenced any progressive voices in his admin. Volcker was dragged out for cachet, then thrown back in the closet so Summers and Geithner could let Wall St continue looting the American people.

Obama’s backpedaled on so many promises, is it any wonder fellow dems are not standing up for him? No one trusts him any longer. I know I don’t. He had an opportunity to make some truly fundamental changes and help the American people. He and the other dems dithered it away.  Sometimes, when a window closes—it stays closed.

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By Traditional American Democrat, September 19, 2011 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment
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It frosts me to hear the implication that some how “Democrats are going to
‘abandon’ Obama now”.

Please, Obama has spent two and a half years abandoning the people who voted of

I hope he is happy in his Wall Street Office in 2012. Perhaps, he’ll be Geithner’s
assistant, continuing the relationship since 2008.

Goodbye, Obama. You have been a bust.

You turned on the people who elected you.

You doubled-down on the status quo after promising “change you can believe in”

You miss every political advantage bungling each new opportunity: schedule your
‘speech’ - no - bow to Republicans; schedule your speech to upped by the 911
‘remembrances’; put together ‘your plan’ without consulting the Democrats whose
support you need.

Offend the Right and the Left; rely on the middle who have long since tired of
trying to figure out what you’re doing, e.g. extend Bush-era tax cuts for the
wealthy three times (twice with Democratic majorities in Congress, then with the
Tea Party House and Grover Norquist, now come out to let the Bush-era tax cuts
expire….. What is with this man? An inept politician: “Offend your base and pander
to the Right Wing - that should endear me to the middle.” Oh, really? You are

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By Traditional American Democrat, September 19, 2011 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment
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The President has spent two and a half years dissing his base and turning his back
on the people who voted for him.
His driving “principle” (go along to get a long) has led him to the realization that
those the ones he wanted to ‘go along’ with would rather be rid of him.
And his base?
Well, Obama’s base no longer trusts him. Why?
Because, here’s what Obama did on four big issues; compare his actions to those
the American public (a majority of whom voted for him) wanted done.
a. Obama did not support us on debt and fair taxes: Washington Post-ABC poll
Washington Post-ABC poll, Spring 2011: 72 percent supported raising taxes on
the rich including 68 percent of Independen­ts and 54 percent of Republicans.
Obama twice ‘bargained­’ to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and will soon
extend the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy a third time.
b. Obama did not support us on TARP & Financial Bailout: Over 70% of us opposed
the bailout. Obama accelerate­d it with Geithner and Bernanke - both Bush
carryovers embraced by Obama. Geithner is soon to receive his ‘bailout’ from the
financial sector (as he soon ‘retires’ from the Obama administra­tion).
c. Obama did not support us on Health Care: 72% of us supported “a government
administered insurance plan - something like Medicare for those under 65—that
would compete for customers with private insurers.” Supporting Max Baucus,
Obama blocked hearings on single payer and chocked off true health care reform.
Instead he supported a private-sector, for-profit health insurance ‘reform’ that
provided insurance companies fabulous guaranteed profits.
d. Obama did not support us on Afghanistan: 64% of us opposed expanding the
war in Afghanistan and wanted to disentangle from Bush-era ‘War on Terror’ and
‘preventive war’ policies. Today, still over 60% of Americans oppose the war.
Obama continues it.
Obama’s base has good reason not to trust him.

The final example: When Obama says “Oh, we need to raise taxes !” his cry rings
false. Why?

Because we’ve seen Obama extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy three times:

First, with Mitch McConnell
Again, with John Boehner
Third time, with a Republican House, the Tea Party and Grover Norquist.

Now, what are you going to believe, Obama’s speech or your lying eyes?

Unlike 2008, when we could all just project our dreams on Obama, we’ve seen him
in action (if you’ll pardon the expression) and reality simply overwhelms his yakety

We Democrats will surely be clobbered in 2012. We should be prepared, in fact we
should be seeking a challenger to Obama in 2012. Failing that, the party can
prepare to continue its losing streak, until it simply collapses, limping along
without a vision and without supporters.

The tragedy is that the middle class, families and working people have not been
represented in DC. We (erroneously) believed the Democrats would do it, but they
were not interested.

The question for the base for the base is whether to waste our votes on a defunct
Democratic Party or waste our votes on a Third Party candidate. With great
sadness, Im leaning to wasting it on a third party.

I wasted my vote on Obama in 2008; I think I’ll waste it on a third party in 2012.

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By bob zimway, September 19, 2011 at 10:32 am Link to this comment

Quote of the Day, by Amish:

“When will somebody have the guts to admit our Nation already has a jobs
program it cannot afford. It’s called the Military Industrial Complex.”

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By thethirdman, September 19, 2011 at 9:59 am Link to this comment


Good for you buddy.  Voting is a joke.  We perpetuate the fraud of democracy with
our participation.  Many on this site are going to give you a lecture.  They are
going to remind you that when you don’t vote, you give the Bachmanns and Perrys
of the world the keys to the White House.  Fuck them.  There is no real difference. 
How stupid do you have to be to repeat the same fruitless action over and over
again?  In fact, the sooner the Bachmanns and Perrys come to power, flex their
muscles, and bring this shit show down, the better.  The people get exactly what
they deserve and unfortunately, we will be paying a big price for the nasty sins of
our past.

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By David J. Cyr, September 19, 2011 at 9:22 am Link to this comment

The corporate party has a Republican faction that fools conservatives all the time every time, and a Democrat faction that fools liberals all the time every time… unless, of course, the conservatives and liberals actually want all the evil shit they keep voting together in the corporate party to get.

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By Leefeller, September 19, 2011 at 9:12 am Link to this comment

If I found my spouse lying to me and making deals behind my back and sleeping with all those Republican, I would seek restitution by crying into me Tequila and finally come to the conclusion realizing I married an adulterer and need to seek consoling from someone dumber then a rock and smarter then a Tea Bag?

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By FRTothus, September 19, 2011 at 8:57 am Link to this comment

>>Better to have a Republican who tells you he is your enemy than having a Democrat who professes to be your friend but is not.<<

Well said.  My feelings exactly.

“It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don’t want and get it.”
(Eugene V. Debs)

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By prisnersdilema, September 19, 2011 at 8:24 am Link to this comment

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time…

Obama is a fake, and in that falseness he betrayed the trust of the people who voted for him.. he needs to get out of the way so change can happen.

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By JMD, September 19, 2011 at 7:40 am Link to this comment

E.J.Dionne,Jr.    9/19/2011
  Unhappy Democrats,are not alone.The tone of the
Nation is set - united,in being divided.
  Thanking you for this opportunity to comment -
  James M. de Laurier

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By Jim Yell, September 19, 2011 at 6:50 am Link to this comment
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Obama is no more serious about his jobs bill than any of the other bills that he allowed the Republican Party to write. He will settle for a left sounding title to a piece of paper and not succeed any better than his previous calculated efforts.

He is in all but name a Republican. His administration is full of Corporate Shills, so much so that it is fair to ask, “is Obama Himself a Corporate Shill?”

The only hope we have is Democrats will avoid trying to give Obama a second term and instead pick a true progressive, willing to fight for the truth. If not than we can only vote for a third party or a write in candidate. If enough people turn away from the established political parties maybe the power of the Corporations will be blocked. But, Obama doesn’t deserve a second term.

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By pacrat, September 19, 2011 at 6:09 am Link to this comment
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One of the President’s challenges was to spend time with his own party. Seemingly he just presumed that they would follow him no matter what. So, he spent his time cultivating republicans with no apparent results. Maybe it is too late for him to make friends with his own party’s leadership - I think it is.

He is intelligent, well intentioned - but apparently very ignorant about politics - did he really think that he could “go it alone?”

Will we all suffer because of his arrogance?

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By maruata, September 19, 2011 at 5:52 am Link to this comment

Dionne the Apologist… it’s almost biblical.

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By Patrick, September 19, 2011 at 5:17 am Link to this comment
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The Third Man writes “2012 is going to be crazy.” I feel the same way in the broad political sense that I think it was meant, but in a personal way as well.

I have voted in every election, local or national, for 30 years. Worked on many campaigns. Walked (sometimes in the rain) for miles, knocking on doors, delivering campaign literature. I’ve even run for local office myself (and won). Donated to campaigns.

But I am DONE. I give up. I will not show up to the polls anymore. I’m finished with the betrayals and the excuses. When even my old-school 60’s liberal congressman (who can safely keep his seat until he dies) votes for renewal of the Patriot Act without any fuss or attempt to change it—I figure, what is the point?

And here’s the thing (which still surprises me a little when I find out): I am not alone! Several other people I know, political junkies, progressives, Democrats, people really active in party activities, are also finished. Not just finished with working on or donating to campaigns, but done VOTING.

Yes, 2012 is going to be crazy.

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, September 19, 2011 at 3:05 am Link to this comment

If you put your boot heel on the throat of an enemy, he remembers but understands that enemies do that. If you put your boot heel on the throat of a friend, he remembers, and becomes an enemy. Too many of the Dems have heel marks on their throats from this fraud and they are now enemies despite being in the same party. Obama is dead. Better to have a Republican who tells you he is your enemy than having a Democrat who professes to be your friend but is not. An enemy is always an enemy but a friend who betrays you is far worse in my opinion.

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By Marian Griffith, September 19, 2011 at 2:35 am Link to this comment
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And so the future of the USA is going to be detemined in 2012 by whatever lunatic the republican party manages to nominate as its candidate.

Because both political parties can agree on nothing but their hatred for Obama.

And political memory may be short, both in the news and in places like this, but it was the need for Obama to placate his own party that delayed and delayed the healthcare reform and that allowed the republican party to mount the destructive opposition of the tea party that now drives out all remaining vestiges of (political) sanity.
We may all (and with some justification) blame Obama for being adrift and going whereever wind is blowing, but the primary blame should be placed on the democrat representatives for their appalling spinelesness that enabled the republican party to gridlock everything and hold the future prospects of all americans hostage to their inane political and economical ideas.

And now the hatred is mounting and everybody is rushing to show they never really supported him, even if it means handing the keys of the white house to somebody who makes the Little Shrub and his administration look smart and moral, or somebody who wants to drag society and (world) economy back down to the 1800s because after that time period it became too complicated for him.

Ultimately the problem is not the character flaws of Obama, real or imagined, but the fact that the whole political system is corrupted. -Nobody- gets elected without lies, showing a 100 different faces to a 100 different groups, nor without accepting a lot of money as ‘campaign donations’ that we are all still publicly shying away from calling what it is: bribes by the wealthy and the corporations.
We have one party that is gleefully corrupt and greedy and utterly without morals, and another one that has no idealism anymore, no program or vision and only is in it for the ‘power’. If Obama shows no backbone it is because his party does not either. And the political system is set up that the only choices are between those two groups, neither of which deserve a vote, because not voting is the same as voting for the more rabidly amoral of the two.

If, as is increasingly like, the republicans manage to make Obama a one term president then one thing is absolutely certain. It will confirm to the republican leaders that the voters are morons who will believe any lie told to them and that there is no reason for them at all to ever cooperate or compromise on anything ever again. At the end of 2012 the USA will effectively become a one party dictatorship. There may be a democrat party and even elections, but the republicans can and will do as they please, because the voters have shown them that they will forgive them any obstructionism and any scorched earth tactics, even holding their life and liberties hostage for their quest for more power.
Welcome to Republicanistan.

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By AmishEcstacy, September 19, 2011 at 1:28 am Link to this comment
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When will somebody have the guts to admit our Nation already has a jobs
program it cannot afford. It’s called the Military Industrial Complex.

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By thethirdman, September 19, 2011 at 1:10 am Link to this comment

“At a moment when Obama desperately needs Democratic solidarity, there is no
reservoir of good will from which he can draw.”

He deserves none.  If I actually voted, I would vote for any Repub candidate over
Obama.  The enemy you know is far superior than the friend who stabs you in the

2012 is going to be crazy.

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By Casandra, September 19, 2011 at 12:46 am Link to this comment
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A glance at the scorecard of Obama’s positions since his winning his party’s nomination reveals a depressing story:

(1) supported immunity to telecoms for spying on American citizens;
(2) supported no-strings-attached multi-trillion dollar bailout of Wall Street;
(3) continues wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya;
(4) continues of policy of “renditioning” and operation of Guantanamo Bay torture center;
(5) extended Bush-era tax-cuts for the rich;
(6) promotes nuclear energy, “clean coal” blasting and deep-sea oil drilling;
(7) supports agribusiness giants like Monsanto and their genetically modified poisons;
(8) recently offered up the sacred calf of Social Security on the altar of “bipartisanship”;
(9) loves “free-trade agreements like NAFTA.
(9) reversed earlier laissez-faire position on federal prosecution of medical marijuana, to name but a few. 

With Democrats like Obama, who needs Republicans.  Yet, we are told that he only does these “bad” things because he is a “weak president” who likes to go-along to get-along.  He is “too nice” and shuns confrontation. 

You know what I say to that?  Obama is in the wrong line of work, that’s what.  He needs to become a nice professor at Harvard or perhaps a diplomat—to Wall Street.  I say, step down Obama and let a “strong” democrat try his or her hand at doing what you seem go find so distasteful.  Let’s hope for a primary challenge to this corporate shill.  Let’s hear it for Elizabeth Warren, Howard Dean and any other number of progressives that Obama has flipped off since taking the presidency.

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By Robespierre115, September 18, 2011 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

Dionne is the typical zombie terrified that his Dear Leader is losing popularity and support. Obama makes a mess because he’s a total cynic trying to please everyone with little concern for actual social change, he’s worried about winning in 2012 and not letting go of the toxic drug of success in gaining power, like any CEO.

His “jobs plan” basically outsources everything to them, allowing them to continue to set the rules and rake in the cash. Of course Buffet is going to ask for a slight hike in taxes, the rich always prefer that than real, popular action to smash their control.

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By El_Pinguino, September 18, 2011 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

Sounds like as good a time as any to mutiny to me.

If you found your spouse lying to you, making deals behind your back… sleeping with the enemy so to speak… would you divorce your spouse?

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