Yes, stereotyping, the labeling of them as liberal talking points is so effective in its myopic conservative painfully closed minded stupidity, this is what makes people like Herman Cane look genius in his own eyes and those who keep theirs closed.

Dissect the talking points instead of generally calling them names Azcat85, your post sounds so right wing which would support an ignorance over right from wrong!

As the previous poster She, mentioned the inequality and disparity between the 99 percent and the 1 percent is real and it is ethically and morally wrong. Numbers do not lie, unless in the hands of a conservative minion.

These are merely people, LaGreca and friends, meaning, besides
birds, and a few simians who choose to occasionally, all those
who walk upright on this planet.  They are not gods in the ancient
Greek sense.  They are not even demigods like Orpheus who braved
the dangers of Hell, the foolish Phaeton, or Hera’s glory Hercules. 
Naw, they are just ordinary often irrational, clownish humans with
what they beleive to be a divine cause to depose the pantheon of
political tyrants whose income obscenely raised 275% between the
years 1979 and 2007 and the poor increased 18% and middle income
wage earners 40% and to challenge the justice of that unconscionable
disparity.  So it is that kind of justice that you might define before
blitzing them with hypercriticism.

Yaarg!

Amy Goodman said:

When forces used to having the ear of the most powerful person on earth whisper their demands in the Oval Office, the President must see a force more powerful outside his window, whether he likes it or not, and say, “If I do that, they will storm the Bastille.” If there’s no one out there, we are all in big trouble.

This “force more powerful outside his window” is of course the Occupiers at Wall Street. ‘Storm the Bastille’ refers to the spontaneous revolt and capture of an institution, performed by the Left, and in this context it is understood as a threat large enough to outweigh the whispering fat cats at Obama’s elbow.

Before i go further, does anyone else want to critique this scenario that the Occupation hopes to set up for themselves, and which Amy Goodman rather openly admitted to?
 
Does Amy or anyone ever think these things through? What else will happen if the Occupation is successful at forcing Obama to give in? Does anyone else imagine the consequences, or am I the only one on Truthdig who can do that?

More posts to follow under the article “A New Bush Era or a Push Era” by Amy Goodman, here on Truthdig. Get there or be square.

Here I am again. The “Born again corporate hugging Tea Bagger and old power hording Republican and empty husk of humanity” (all of which is Leftist talk for someone who tells the inconvenient truth). Yep here I am.
I have waited a few days to respond to Amy Goodman’s article, “A New Bush Era or a Push Era” since I wanted to give the Leftists a chance to notice and comment on her most agregious remarks. Since they have not done so, I reckon they must either be ignorant of, or they agree with, her remarks and their horrible consequences. I shall begin to write my criticism now.

Amy Goodman said:

[quoteWhen forces used to having the ear of the most powerful person on earth whisper their demands in the Oval Office, the President must see a force more powerful outside his window, whether he likes it or not, and say, “If I do that, they will storm the Bastille.” If there’s no one out there, we are all in big trouble.

This “force more powerful outside his window” is of course the Occupiers at Wall Street. ‘Storm the Bastille’ refers to the spontaneous revolt and capture of an institution, performed by the Left, and in this context it is understood as a threat large enough to outweigh the whispering fat cats at Obama’s elbow.

Before i go further, does anyone else want to critique this scenario that the Occupation hopes to set up for themselves, and which Amy Goodman rather openly admitted to?
 
Does Amy or anyone ever think these things through? What else will happen if the Occupation is successful at forcing Obama to give in? Does anyone else imagine the consequences, or am I the only one on Truthdig who can do that?

More posts to follow under the article “A New Bush Era or a Push Era” by Amy Goodman, here on Truthdig. Get there or be square.

Here I am again. The “Born again corporate hugging Tea Bagger and old power hording Republican and empty husk of humanity” (all of which is Leftist talk for someone who tells the inconvenient truth). Yep here I am.

I have waited a few days to respond to Amy Goodman’s article, “A New Bush Era or a Push Era” since I wanted to give the Leftists a chance to notice and comment on her most agregious remarks. Since they have not done so, I reckon they must either be ignorant of, or they agree with, her remarks and their horrible consequences. I shall begin to write my criticism now.

Amy Goodman said:

When forces used to having the ear of the most powerful person on earth whisper their demands in the Oval Office, the President must see a force more powerful outside his window, whether he likes it or not, and say, “If I do that, they will storm the Bastille.” If there’s no one out there, we are all in big trouble.

This “force more powerful outside his window” is of course the Occupiers at Wall Street. ‘Storm the Bastille’ refers to the spontaneous revolt and capture of an institution, performed by the Left, and in this context it is understood as a threat large enough to outweigh the whispering fat cats at Obama’s elbow.

Before i go further, does anyone else want to critique this scenario that the Occupation hopes to set up for themselves, and which Amy Goodman rather openly admitted to?
 
Does Amy or anyone ever think these things through? What else will happen if the Occupation is successful at forcing Obama to give in? Does anyone else imagine the consequences, or am I the only one on Truthdig who can do that?

More posts to follow under the article “A New Bush Era or a Push Era” by Amy Goodman, here on Truthdig. Get there or be square.

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Radison, five years seems optimistic after 30 years of Reagan trickling down to the present Koch Brothers buying politicians.  Yes I gladly rather be optimist then a born again corporate hugging Tea Bagger or an old power hording Republican who appear as empty husks of humanity.

Immigrant Rupert Murdoch has his citizenship handed to him by the President
Reagan.  So right from the start Rupert got to bend the rules the rest is history.

So how does the story end, the natives get restless and then ......?’’—————————————

Well perhaps in about Five years we should see positive results,hopefully it won’t be too late .

Get the money out Needs to be a first step so money does not supersede speech, morals, accountability or ethics, otherwise we have what we have. 

This pimp and whore DC show went right to the Red States far as I see it the Democrats are not immune from taking or needing the money, the Republicans are just shameless in supporting their sponsors! 

Politics seems to be a sponsored program, especially now that corporations are people too! Representatives sure as hell do not represent me or the people occupying Wall Street, well nice to know I am not alone!

Sure the Republicans are repulsive in their pimped potions, why do they not care? Seems to me they really do not give a crap about the people or the nation, they seem to only care about the money and most of them are set for life. 

This bipartisanship song and dance routine really sucks, guess it is slightly better than what they now have in Egypt…. a military junta. So how does the story end, the natives get restless and then ......?

With the copycat script all the Republicans are mouthing as if they
were recorded zombies, it is obvious, radson,

The Republican Party is the Party Against the People.

Since we were pawns of one movement, we can easily be fooled into becoming pawns of your movement. Why not?
*********

Just explore the alternatives with your mind, not your mindless fears. You’ll know.

The possibility of Tea persons becoming OWS supporters is very real ,since most of the members are unaware that they were actually pawns
of a movement that was basically designed to control the legitimite frustration that they have voiced

Since we were pawns of one movement, we can easily be fooled into becoming pawns of your movement. Why not?

Unless we have our own ideals and were not pawns to begin with…  yes, that might be our saving grace. Time will tell.

Shen : we’ll find out in November what actually will happen with SS and Medicare along with what Banking strategy the Obama Admin will agree with ,but my take is that the President is still very much an ardent supporter of the Establishment.Yet the decision that he ( Obama) will adopt will be risky if it exacerbates the plight of the 99ers ,when an election year is just around the corner .The possibility of Tea persons becoming OWS supporters is very real ,since most of the members are unaware that they were actually pawns
of a movement that was basically designed to control the legitimite frustration that they have voiced .If Obama chooses peace meal appeasement to the OWS movement it may have a delaying effect but will not be sufficient in the short term -meaning next November- and that is when perhaps the OWS movement will be most vocal ,third party or no party notwithstanding.

cheers

rad – Reciprocally OWS might make that Winter of struggle a bit
easier.  I like the idea of the renewal that Springs always bring and
the fermenting that will occur during the slowmo of winter.  I am
keeping my optimism in check but hope “springs” eternal.  Pressure
put on Congressmen/women will keep Social Security off the butcher’s
block and meat cleaver away from Medicare.

Shen :I agree that the moment must be used to its fullest,yet I also foresee a lengthy struggle and the Winter months may prove the most difficult ,hence my reference to Spring and the life that it rekindles.Also it will be interesting to see what the Super-Committee decision will bring ,although I’m not optimistic in that regard ,nevertheless it can be used to further the OWS cause, since Social Security
will probably be gutted to fill the Banksters coffers.

cheers

rad – my velocity has always been in the same direction.  Perhaps
you misread my sentiments or passed my ship blinded by personal
perspectives?  No matter if we see we are in the same sea change
current.  We don’t have to wait for Spring.  The people are not waiting
and carpe diem rules the passion for a correction of the Ship’s course,
Ship being a metaphor for America.

Thank you, Leefeller. I will look up Buddy Roemer. Sounds like a Louisannan in the
Huey Long tradition. Appreciate the heads-up. Best the worm

Congratulations to the Truthdigger of the week!
Excellent selection. Thank you.

ITW, appreciate the complement, sometimes I feel like throwing in the towel, with the
price of Tequila going up like Diesel spilling both has become an economic tragicomedy
and have you ever tried drinking Diesel?

Never deliberately!  But gin tastes a little like it!

Thanks worm,... I do not get Current TV and I miss Oberman, though I do get to watch MSNBC to fill my lefty liberal progressive taste buddy cicada pompom waving voracious appetite. 

Jesse LaGreca is a great choice for person of the week, I saw his interview of the FOX interview, because FOX fair and unbalanced left the interview on the cutting room floor, they got their emberass handed to them on a silver platter. LaGreca covered the reason why Occupy Wall Street protests exist very well and he did it without swearing?

This is really strange, I have heard only one candidate person running for office of president who emulates my fondest wishes and deluded dreams better then anyone else. (as for any polictician it is questionable if they are sincere?) If any of you get a chance listen to former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer, (I know Louisiana?) after listening to him he makes more sense than all the Republicans and Tea Bags combined, which could easily be managed by an Illiterate inarticulate cockroach. Hell Buddy Rommer’s platform is one I can support, he sounds almost like a clone for Nader? (Nader fans will love this)!

ITW, appreciate the complement, sometimes I feel like throwing in the towel, with the price of Tequila going up like Diesel spilling both has become an economic tragicomedy and have you ever tried drinking Diesel?

Well Shen it seems that this discussion has been presented on TD before and I am rather surprised by by your change of direction .Actually its a good thing and I will like to add that SPRING is a long way off ,but it will come .The Passing of Ships is still remembered.

cheers

OzarkMichael,

This ain’t a Left VS Right thing.

Stop being so tribal

Even Karl Denninger nearly gets it, and I can’t stand him most of the time

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=195618

Extract

“There are a few nuts in the OWS crowd, but from what I hear “Occupy Wall Street” is about bringing the fraudsters to justice. Its about changing the banker/government dynamic that runs this country. It’s about free markets. It’s about ending endless debt. It’s about stopping the wars. It’s about the rule of law. It’s about the libertarian soul of America.”

Personally I can’t argue with that regardless of what my own tribal and political views are.

I am English and I live in England, and I am delighted that Ordinary Americans are slowly waking up to what is happenning.

I come from Oldham and live near London

Tony

You May Know - I Don’t Know.

Are you sure you know where all this evil is coming from - no the real source - not the stuff you learnt about God and the Devil when you were a Child.

I am talking about here and now

We live on a completely wonderful planet

Who is in Control?

Who are these people?

What are they trying to do?

We can’t fix it, unless we identify the problem.

What is causing this problem?

Nearly every person I meet are really nice most of the time.

Even when I got mugged and robbed in Athens, I didn’t detect the REAL EVIL that is in control of us…

They were starving immigrants - they didn’t kill me - they just took what I had to survive.

They are not the Problem.

But the Problem Does Exist

And I am Coming After You, and I am Going To see YOU on Trial in a Fair Court of Law

you Have Commited WAR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

JUSTICE WILL BE DONE

Tony

Does anyone know if our hero Jesse was on the bridge when people got arrested? And was our hero Jesse one of those who claimed the police fooled the crowd into crossing onto the bridge?

If so, our hero Jesse told a whopper.

Watch the video where the police are warning the Occupiers that they will be arrested, while the Occupiers shout “Take the bridge!” over and over.

Later the occupiers claim they werent warned and the press printed that lie for them.But technology is a starnge beast. Unfortunately it wont serve just the darling Leftists.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/police-gave-warnings-at-bridge-videos-show/

Only Leftists would lie for the sake or the ‘truth’, a la dear comrade Lenin. You are being manipulated.

Well I did buy Her Book “The Shock Doctrine” and it is very good, but She will never answer a Staight Question when asked it about 9/11.

What She says here is probably Brilliant, but unless and until “She Comes Out”

And Speaks The Truth, Rather Than whatever is her Political Agenda

Why should I listen to her?

I’ve already read her book

What The fuc* is Wrong With You Girl?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Occupy-Wall-Street-The-Mo-by-Naomi-Klein-111007-65.html

Tony

Just a suggestion if you haven’t already done it, worm.  Post the list
on all the relevant Truthdig forums!

Awesome,  the worm, October 7 at 3:44 pm - thanks.  I am going to
print a ream of copies and distribute them in my area.  Most obliged
as it saved me the time from trying to transcribe it from Olberman’s
super video.  The American Rebellion is on its way.  Finally scummy-
witted MSMs are talking about it!  Amusingly, Fox got disemboweled
by Jesse LaGreca.  His response to Fox also needs transcribed. Does
anybody really think Fox will show it on their own stations?

Hot Damn! I’ll bet that Fox reporter thought he was going to get an idiotic, rambling reply that would justify the GOP’s take on this: That it’s just an unruly mob and not worthy of consideration.

I guess not. When that many angry, ordinary American citzens do what they’re doing, it cannot be dismissed by the news or by our government—-not even by those obstructionist jerks in the GOP.

One huge self-evident chasm that desperately needs attention: 

“New York Federal Reserve’s board of directors Kathryn Wylde agreed with the two wayward bankers, Public Radio International reports, saying recently that if the protesters actually “talked to the people working inside the banks and on Wall Street ... they would find they have far more in common with them than what divides them.””

What divides “them” ( the 99% of us) is money which Wall Street people hold far, far more of than the 99%. If—BIG IF—“the protesters actually could talk to the people working inside the banks and on Wall Street .....”  That’s just the point.  They can’t.  They are excluded, and would be arrested if they seriously tried. The protest is their only way.  The chasm is created by Wall Street people who actually DO NOT WANT TO TALK to the 99%.
They would much prefer to ignore them entirely.

That’s precisely why Occupy Wall Street is occurring, so I guess “the people working there” are getting the message.  But it would be so much more democratic and efficient if Wall Street would just pay attention to the results of their activities. It wouldn’t be necessary to camp on the streets of cities all over the country.

It takes blind determination to miss this point, no matter who or where you are.

I found it:

“As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice we must
not lose sight of what brought us together.

We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world
can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality that the future of the human
race requires the cooperation of its members.

That our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is
up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors.

That a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but
corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people, and the Earth,
and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by
economic power.

We come to you at a time when corporations — which place profit over people,
self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality — run our governments.
We have peaceably assembled here as is our right to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not
having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give
executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in workplaces based on age,
the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity, and sexual orientation.

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the
farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless
animals, and actively hide these practices.

Cont ....

Cont ....

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for
better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on
education, which is, itself, a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to
cut worker’s health care and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people with none of
the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams, but look for ways to get them
out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press.

They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products, endangering lives in
pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy despite the catastrophic failures their policies
have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for
regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives,
or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a
substantial profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and
inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully kept people misinformed and fearful through their control of
the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners, even when presented
with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad.

They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive
government contracts.

To the people of the world, We, the New York City general assembly occupying
Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble, occupy public space, create a process
to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct
democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our
disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard.”

The statement was issued from Zuccotti Park by the general assembly at Occupy
Wall Street.

It is so heartening to see that ordinary people actually are
articulate and can say exactly what is the problem in this
country.  Jesse LaGreca has acutely given voice to the shameless
inequality corporatocratic institutions has imposed on the 99%
American people.  LaGreca extemporaneous but amazingly clear
remarks is in glaring contrast to the babbling Republicans who
are shrieking that the protesters are pitting Americans against
Americans.  Oh…yeah!  F’sure.  The Repiglicans can only oink. 
As if they have not chronically been doing that for decades!  They
are decrepit minded.  Keith Olberman importantly and also clearly
emphasized and iterated the list of crimes committed by the
corporatocrats.  This list needs to be put in poster form and plastered
all over America.  I will do that in my area.  It has been said often enough
that any change would have to start with the people at the local level. 
Well the message was received and it is an infectious fever to see that
ordinary people have power. 

I can foresee those impotent Democratic politicians seeing the ignition
and attempting to ride the wave like whores do when a plethora of johns
come cruising down the street.  My hope is that they become fired up
enough to start working as Democrats in the Congress. 

It must never be forgotten:
The Republican Party is the Party Against the People.

Every election must defeat any and every Republican candidate but with a
true liberal politician who will work on behalf of the people, that is the
only way to stop the brazen assault on the middle class and get America
back to what it should have been, a country for the people…

Where can i find the transcript of the statement read by Olbermann?

I can’t find it on the current website.

Can any one lead me to it?

Thank you.

Best
Bill

You’ve finally got the “big balls” we always talked about Keither!!!

Also, I forego my usual nomination of LeeFeller as Truthdigger of the week in support Jesse LaGreca!

Sorry, Lee, maybe next week…

ITW.

Oh, I LOVE IT!

This Fox Noise asshole thought he was going to get a liberal version of Joe The Plumber.  Instead he got a cool, calm articulate voice of Jesse LaGreca who, with a smile and never an angry word, sliced, diced and pureed the deserving needle-nosed slimy son of a bitch!

It was a Tour de Force!

Thanks so much for this, first to the individuals responsible and the other 99%, and second to Truthdig.  Gives us all hope and inspiration.

Thank you Mr. Jesse and Mr. Keith.

To Mr. Jesse… your powers of on-the-spot articulation are not merely awe inspiring, but inspiring.

To Mr. Keith… keep on keepin’ on etc (you’ve heard it all before).

I can’t seem to edit my own comment on this site, but, there’s the link to Olbermann’s show—

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

“On Wednesday evening this week, MSNBC political commentator Keith Olbermann”

Nice mention, but really, get the thing right. Olbermann was fired by MSNBC (contract ended) back in January and he’s now on Current TV. Please correct the story.