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Trump? The Republican Primary Is Now Officially a Gong Show

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Posted on Dec 4, 2011
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By Joe Conason

Marketing genius is perhaps the most appropriate way to describe Donald J. Trump’s newest incarnation as the announced host—he can hardly be called a “moderator”—of a post-Christmas Republican debate sponsored by Newsmax, the conservative magazine. Why did several candidates, including potential victim Jon Huntsman, instantly agree to join this spectacle?

The problem immediately faced by any candidate who might not wish to risk being “fired” by the Donald onstage as millions watch is how to politely decline without being “fired” in a super-heated blast of publicity right now. As President Obama discovered earlier this year, the press eagerly latches onto Trump at every opportunity, even when he sounds utterly deranged.

With the possible exception of Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann—who seems to have established an actual friendship with Trump—these unfortunate Republicans cannot relish the prospect of an encounter with America’s towering ego. Whatever Trump’s intentions, how will he be able to resist upstaging, one-upping, contradicting and perhaps even humiliating each of them in turn? And which of them will want to talk back smack to a publicity machine with his own “Fox and Friends” weekly time-slot called “Mondays with Trump”?

It is hard not to feel a bit sad for the Republicans today, although they have certainly brought this on themselves. Ed Rollins, the legendary Ronald Reagan aide who worked for the Bachmann campaign until earlier this year, expressed what many party stalwarts must be feeling: “Who made Trump the kingmaker? This campaign has been enough of a circus without making him the ringmaster.”

The only sure winners in this gong show are Trump himself and his sponsors at Newsmax, who can count on high ratings and massive media attention. Their constituencies will not be displeased no matter how Trump behaves. As Newsmax Chief Executive Christopher Ruddy told The New York Times, “Our readers and the grass roots really love Trump.”

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But Ruddy’s remark could mean reopening a can of worms that in a saner world would remain tightly closed. Roger Stone, the ex-Richard Nixon operative, former Trump consultant and full-time political schemer, warned that while the casino magnate’s role will be “interesting,” there could be dire consequences for the other participants. “Trump may appear more appealing a candidate to those watching than those he is moderating,” he said.


Joe Conason is the editor in chief of NationalMemo.com.

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By IMax, December 8, 2011 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

oddsox,

I really don’t know. I’ve never seen Trump moderate a debate.

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By oddsox, December 8, 2011 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

IMax, my view is that because of his overall temperament (not to mention he was (is?) a candidate himself), Trump he would make a poor “moderator.”

I mean, if Scott Pelley couldn’t keep from insinuating himself into the discussion, what restraint could we expect from The Donald?

I don’t think this debate is going to happen without more participation and Gingrich vs. Santorum wouldn’t draw flies.

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By IMax, December 7, 2011 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment

Robespierre115,

While I see no reason to over-glorify Steve Jobs, I see no real measure to degrade him either.

Jobs’ inventiveness and innovation has changed the world with connectivity, communications and mass education/information. A couple of years back I read a lengthy W.H.O. report estimating that Steve Jobs, through his wealth and mind for logistics, saved the lives of over 3 million people in Africa and east Asia.

Not a bad life’s work.

You see no value in studying his methods and conclusions?

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I’m not sure just yet about Donald Trump promoting and moderating presidential debates. Apart from ratings I have no way of telling whether or not this will prove significantly different from MSNBC, CNN and FOX.  The introduction of candidates at the top of the last CNN debate had all the feel of a Reality TV Survivor competition.

Will the expected high ratings of a Trump promoted debate” prove to boost interest and, therefor, greater voter participation? That would be a real plus.

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By oddsox, December 7, 2011 at 10:51 am Link to this comment

so Romney has wisely said “no thanks” to the Donald.
(That must really piss him off!)

So it’ll be Gingrich vs. Santorum, is that right?
What a blockbuster!  Ha!

Y’know who they should invite? 
Dr. Jill Stein!
Seriously—that I’d watch!

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By Leefeller, December 7, 2011 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

Robespierre115? Are there 115 Robespierrel’s out there?

The making of people of notoriety into celebrities then into heroes as wholesaler then thou is ludicrous,.... Steve Jobs was no different then Michale Jackson or Jobe the Pumper, since none of them continue to exist the only difference was when they did, the other two made a hell of a lot more money then Jobe the Pumper!

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By Allan Krueger, December 7, 2011 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

ANY candidate who participates in this farce should immediately be disqualified from the presidential nomination!

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By Leefeller, December 6, 2011 at 3:58 am Link to this comment

I read this somewhere and I cannot strike the picture from me deluded mind!

Donald Trump with his beady eyes popping out of his red face, always looks like a baby who is placing a large load in his diaper!

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By Weindeb, December 6, 2011 at 12:05 am Link to this comment
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As a practicing troll, I am bitterly, bitterly disappointed after reading this article. Is it
possible that Donald Trump could be replacing Rush Limbaugh as the go-to head of the
GOP? Never - I repeat never - have I witnessed such potential ingratitude on the part of a
political party. It isn’t right!

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By blogdog, December 5, 2011 at 11:40 pm Link to this comment

this show needs a bleeding theme song
http://soundcloud.com/fighting-words-music/philistine-nation-joe-blow

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By SteveL, December 5, 2011 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment

Will Trump be getting a large red nose and some clown shoes to go with his
haircut?

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By Robespierre115, December 5, 2011 at 5:47 pm Link to this comment

This is just another example of how US culture has over-glorified the image of the CEO. CEOs in our culture are admired and evoked the way dumb teenagers aspire to be Tony Montana. I remember seeing some Occupy protesters holding signs quoting Steve Jobs, the same Steve Jobs who told Obama he needed to smash the teacher’s unions, go easy on the corporate class and wipe out vacations in general for school children.

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By James M. Martin, December 5, 2011 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

How dare you say such things about that great American hero, Donald Rump?!

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By oddsox, December 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

Jolly fun, eh, what?!

Meanwhile, over in Ring 4, Iranian nuke plants and missile sites are accidentally blowing themselves up!

Ka-blooey!

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/05/2532802/iran-explosions-prompt-speculation.html

Blam-O!

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-bomb-20111205,0,7550482.story

ka-BOOM!

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/a-second-iranian-nuclear-facility-has-exploded-as-diplomatic-tensions-rise-between-the-west-and-tehran/story-e6frg6so-1226209996774

..but nothing worth watching over there… keep watching Ringmaster Trump and his Dancing Bears!

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By PatrickHenry, December 5, 2011 at 4:10 pm Link to this comment

Ron Paul basically told Trump to GFYS.

As Pauls numbers of supporters grow the corporate banking shills are redoubling their efforts.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/01/republican-jewish-coalition-bars-ron-pau

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By Outraged, December 5, 2011 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

The Man with Poodles criminal campaign chief says The Man
with Poodles will not endorse any clown in near
future….

....Grinch claims same “outsider appeal” as Ricky
Whoops….Biden says Grinch “inflated”....Colburn
describes Grinch as “lacking”....

One headline claims The Man with Poodles will endorse clown
Grinch….

Grinch’s prior underlings say they are “not inclined
to support him”.....Grinch changes soundtrack on
campaign ad claims copyrighted music was only “place
holder”.....

....Slumlord says Ricky Whoops “so forceful and
strong”..... Ricky Whoops claims debates are “not his
thing”.....

.....Slumlord claims President of US miffed over his
influence in GOP and believes he is why Lady GaGa is
famous…...Slumlord says he shouldn’t admit
that ” I don’t mind being the center of attention”

.....Faux News and Accomplices claim The Man with Poodles has had “history making campaign” because “what other candidate has ever quoted Japanese anime action franchise Pokemon in his or her withdrawal speech or sung a pizza-based spoof of John Lennon’s “Imagine?”........(ya’ got me there)

....Ricky whoops has recurring “brain freeze”.....

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By blogdog, December 5, 2011 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

as elsewhere noted - not original… see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay7ITJJUYUo

of course it will get weirder and weirder until…

the GOP big circus blows up into an incomprehensibly abstruse 3-ring fools
paradise sometime around March, of which no pundit can get enough, and
wherewith the back-room scramble (already in progress) coalesces. A
messenger is dispatched to summon the saviour for both the party and the
nation.

El Salvadore will not reach for this (far too vulgar), nor campaign as a low,
despicable ‘politician’. Rather, he will figuratively mount a blinding, alabaster
charge and parade from hamlet to hamlet announcing, in the grandest and
vaguest of rhetoric, his deliverance of the nation from its heretofore feckless
leadership… of whom do I speak?

None other, of course, then the Victor of Mesopotamia, the Thinking Mans War
Monger, a virtual Deus Ex Machina…

drum roll & TA DAAHH!!  Generalissimo Petraeus!

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By Outraged, December 5, 2011 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment

Poll shows Grinch ahead of Rubicon, news site says
Grinch ” a bit ahead” of Rubicon

Rubicon: 54% Grinch 62%

....Rubicon claims “carbon dioxide” not a
pollutant and trashes EPA claiming it is “grabbing
power”...

Rubicon described as ” colorless candidate and made
him exquisitely one-dimensional: All-Business Man,
the world’s most boring superhero” by Timely news
article…..

......additionally as “a socially awkward Mormon with
squishy conservative credentials and a reported worth
in the range of $190 million to $250 million” by
same.

Slumlord claims flip-flopping of Rubicon to be “smart
people”......

....reportedly, “a group of uninterested old Iowa
ladies at the 2004 Republican convention” is schooled
on the “Art of Flip flopping” by Rubicon
describing Kerry….same article says Rubicon ” talking too
fast for old people” and that Rubicon claims to have
told a joke that according to Rubicon was “was kinda cute”....

....The Man with Poodles will not endorse Grinch on Monday, no info regarding what The Man with Poodles will do on Tuesday…...

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By Outraged, December 5, 2011 at 1:06 pm Link to this comment

....Mrs Where the hell is Libya claims support of
former The Man with Poodles advocates

Grinch claims support of former The Man with Poodles
supporters… Yucky Butt Stuff says The Man with
Poodles had, ” a distraction that was not going to go
away” but offered his sympathies…..

.....Ricky Whoops woos The Man with Poodles
supporters with PACyderm funds to Cornhuskers’ media
ad talkin’ Billy Bob faith and claiming to be an
“outsider”......

....The Man with Poodles is “at peace with God” as
apparent supports shouted “Gloria, Gloria” apparently
NOT in reference to God…....

Reports of Slumlord’s independent run for president become ever more time sensitive….

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By Outraged, December 5, 2011 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment

From what I can tell…..

Huntsman and friends are
planning to enjoy some popcorn, while the Slumlord
and the Grinch are plotting to put poor kids in
orphanages and work ‘em to death…..

...in the meantime, Paul said “To be sure, Mr. Trump’s
participation will contribute to an unwanted circus-
like atmosphere.” this apparently pissed off the
Slumlord and the Grinch defended the Slumlord calling
him a “true American Icon” (I didn’t see the Slumlord
on American Idol…oh, “icon”...sure).

....the Slumlord called Paul “a joke
candidate”......ahem… of course the Slumlord then
threatened to run as an independent.

Repugs are “having suspicions” that the Slumlord is
doing all of this for “his own gain”.....While the Slumlord said that Mrs, Where the hell is Libya is a “worker bee” who met with him “several times”.

Slumlord says he won’t talk birther and the Rubicon calls the Slumlord “colorful”....Slumlord says Rubicon “doesn’t get traction”....

.....still awaiting the entrance of The Man with Poodles….

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By Outraged, December 5, 2011 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

Did you see the latest “poop”....

Apparently Trump is in a dander because Huntsman
won’t kiss his ass, so Trump blathered something
about Huntsman begging to be a part of his nonsense,
Huntsman responded….

“I’m not going to kiss his ring, and I’m not going
to kiss any other part of his anatomy,”

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/05/381820/trump-huntsman-mormon/

Trump, the epitome of slumlord….....lol.

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By StynqueOne@gmail.com, December 5, 2011 at 8:32 am Link to this comment

It’s time to play the Circus organ music for the Big
Top Clown Show is about to start.

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By PatrickHenry, December 5, 2011 at 3:14 am Link to this comment

Trump is a shuckster point man for TPTB, he represents corporate interests and Wall Street.

Now he is attempting to be a spoiler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X97GtNUIbyY&feature=player_embedded

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By Blueokie, December 4, 2011 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

When I first heard of this I assumed it was a rumor started by the Onion run amok. Who knew Tom “The Hammer” DeLay’s appearance on “Dancing With the Stars” was only the beginning?  I’m not sure which is more embarrassing, that this farce is real, or that people take it seriously.

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By Outraged, December 4, 2011 at 10:08 pm Link to this comment

I was sitting here trying to figure out what other
gameshow the Republicans could use to “pick” their
candidate.

Can’t put them on Jeopardy, they could never answer
the questions. Maybe Wheel of Fortune, of course they
would have to pick a letter that hasn’t already been
picked, think they could handle that…. you know we
could make the phrases themed like they do, something
like “Luntz euphemisms” or “Congressional Felonies”.

How about Pachinko on The Price Is Right, that should
be something they are savvy enough to compete
in…..whoever gets their chip in the winning slot,
if they can tell us who the current VP is they get an
extra chip.

25,000 dollar pyramid, one would think they’d excel
here…...a pyramid scheme….hey, a SCHEME of any
type ought to be right up their alley

How about American Gladiators… at first I thought
maybe they weren’t quite athletic enough for this
type of contest until I read this at Wiki: “An
effort in 2004 to launch a live American Gladiators
show on the Las Vegas Strip became mired in a
securities fraud prosecution.”
  So I changed my
mind, and thought sure, why not?

Wow. There’s a lot of different games shows, just put the candidates/charaters in the show, use
your imagination…....

Celebrity Charades              
Celebrity Double Talk
Dialing for Dollars
Do You Trust Your Wife? (we could give the wives
butcher knives, and see what they decide to cut off)
Family Feud
The Gong Show (hey, maybe one of has some talent)
He said, She said
Headline Chasers
High Rollers
I’ve Got a Secret
Joker’s Wild
Let’s Make a Deal
Make Me Laugh
Monopoly
The Dating Game
Pass the Buck
Sale of the Century
Ready…. Set….Cook!
Rumor Has It
Swaps
To Tell the Truth
Trashed
What Would You Do For….?
Shenanigans

I’ve never seen half these shows (apparently they’re
actual shows)......... what fun we could have.

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By blogdog, December 4, 2011 at 6:04 pm Link to this comment

brain-dead pop media’s official ‘firer’ is indeed something of a clown - as I’ve
written before, he would be dismissed from the table of any inner-circle
oligarch for just farting without permission - to be clear, names of the
members of said ‘circle’ are proscribed from publication in Stevie Forbes’ little
newsletter, a tradition going back to the lesson learned by granddad Bertie…  e.g. 

”...shortly after publishing his first list of the 30 richest Americans. Heading
the list was John D. Rockefeller, Sr. whose wealth exceeded $1.2 billion (at a
time when successful bank presidents earned around $5,000 per year. When
the list was published Rockefeller sent a scathing letter to Forbes demanding a
correction, insisting that his personal wealth was no where near a billion
dollars.

source: Jon Christian Ryter, 2006
http://home1.gte.net/carriet/TheMoneyMafia.htm

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By BrooklynDame, December 4, 2011 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment

I think we’re on the same track. I don’t believe the GOP can possibly expect to be
taken seriously.  There’s no more ‘grand’ in Grand Old Party.  They’re a disgrace
but, unfortunately, their joke is on us.
http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2011/12/another-reality-show/

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