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Posted on May 31, 2010
AP / Elizabeth Dalziel

By Chris Hedges

The witch hunts against communists in the United States were used to silence socialists, anarchists, pacifists and all those who defied the abuses of capitalism. Those “anti-Red” actions were devastating blows to the political health of the country. The communists spoke the language of class war. They understood that Wall Street, along with corporations such as British Petroleum, is the enemy. They offered a broad social vision which allowed even the non-communist left to employ a vocabulary that made sense of the destructive impulses of capitalism. But once the Communist Party, along with other radical movements, was eradicated as a social and political force, once the liberal class took government-imposed loyalty oaths and collaborated in the witch hunts for phantom communist agents, we were robbed of the ability to make sense of our struggle. We became fearful, timid and ineffectual. We lost our voice and became part of the corporate structure we should have been dismantling.

Hope in this age of bankrupt capitalism will come with the return of the language of class conflict. It does not mean we have to agree with Karl Marx, who advocated violence and whose worship of the state as a utopian mechanism led to another form of enslavement of the working class, but we have to speak in the vocabulary Marx employed. We have to grasp, as Marx did, that corporations are not concerned with the common good. They exploit, pollute, impoverish, repress, kill and lie to make money. They throw poor families out of homes, let the uninsured die, wage useless wars to make profits, poison and pollute the ecosystem, slash social assistance programs, gut public education, trash the global economy, loot the U.S. Treasury and crush all popular movements that seek justice for working men and women. They worship only money and power. And, as Marx knew, unfettered capitalism is a revolutionary force that consumes greater and greater numbers of human lives until it finally consumes itself. The nightmare in the Gulf of Mexico is the perfect metaphor for the corporate state. It is the same nightmare seen in postindustrial pockets from the old mill towns in New England to the abandoned steel mills in Ohio. It is a nightmare that Iraqis, Pakistanis and Afghans, mourning their dead, live each day. 

Capitalism was once viewed in America as a system that had to be fought. But capitalism is no longer challenged. And so, even as Wall Street steals billions of taxpayer dollars and the Gulf of Mexico is turned into a toxic swamp, we do not know what to do or say. We decry the excesses of capitalism without demanding a dismantling of the corporate state. The liberal class has a misguided loyalty, illustrated by environmental groups that have refused to excoriate the Obama White House over the ecological catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico. Liberals bow before a Democratic Party that ignores them and does the bidding of corporations. The reflexive deference to the Democrats by the liberal class is the result of cowardice and fear. It is also the result of an infantile understanding of the mechanisms of power. The divide is not between Republican and Democrat. It is a divide between the corporate state and the citizen. It is a divide between capitalists and workers. And, for all the failings of the communists, they got it. 

Unions, organizations formerly steeped in the doctrine of class warfare and filled with those who sought broad social and political rights for the working class, have been transformed into domesticated partners of the capitalist class. They have been reduced to simple bartering tools. The social demands of unions early in the 20th century that gave the working class weekends off, the right to strike, the eight-hour day and Social Security have been abandoned. Universities, especially in political science and economics departments, parrot the discredited ideology of unregulated capitalism and have no new ideas. Artistic expression, along with most religious worship, is largely self-absorbed narcissism. The Democratic Party and the press have become corporate servants. The loss of radicals within the labor movement, the Democratic Party, the arts, the church and the universities has obliterated one of the most important counterweights to the corporate state. And the purging of those radicals has left us unable to make sense of what is happening to us.

The fear of communism, like the fear of Islamic terrorism, has resulted in the steady suspension of civil liberties, including freedom of speech, habeas corpus and the right to organize, values the liberal class claims to support. It was the orchestration of fear that permitted the capitalist class to ram through the Taft-Hartley Act in 1948 in the name of anti-communism, the most destructive legislative blow to the working class until the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). It was fear that created the Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition, offshore penal colonies where we torture and the endless wars in the Middle East. And it was fear that was used to see us fleeced by Wall Street. If we do not stop being afraid and name our enemy we will continue toward a state of neofeudalism.

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By MarthaA, June 2, 2010 at 7:59 pm Link to this comment

christian96, June 2 at 1:12 am,

Jesus was not a capitalist.

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By Loren Bliss, June 2, 2010 at 7:48 pm Link to this comment

Oddly enough—Jungian synchronicity strikes again—I began in March to develop a “12 Steps to Liberation” statement as a tool of consciousness-raising. Ergo, in response to Ofersince71 (and with apologies to Bill Wilson):

(1)-We admitted we were powerless—that our lives had become unmanageable.
(2)-Came to believe that the principles of working-class solidarity could restore us to individual sanity and collective empowerment.
(3)-Made a decision to live our lives in accordance with those principles.
(4)-Acknowledged that the personal is always political and so made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
(5)-Admitted to ourselves and our comrades the exact nature of our wrongs.
(6)-Were entirely ready to shed our defects of character and recover from the moral disease of capitalism.
(7)-Humbly asked our comrades to help us remove our shortcomings.
(8)-Made a list of all we had harmed and became willing to make amends accordingly.
(9)-Made direct amends wherever possible, except when to do so would do more harm than good.
(10)-Continued to take personal inventory and when wrong promptly admitted it.
(11)-Sought through study, meditation and activism to improve our understanding of class struggle, striving for mindfulness and the courage to act upon it.
(12)-Having awakened as a result of these Steps, we carry this message to the victims of capitalism everywhere and practice these principles in all our affairs.

I had planned on eventually posting these 12 Steps on my blog, Outside Agitator’s Notebook (http://lorenbliss.typepad.com/loren-bliss-outside-agitators-notebook) but somehow the time never seemed quite right to do so. 

Hence I offer them here and now…along with a suggestion: print out the Communist Manifesto
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/, add a page including these Steps and distribute it wherever you can:  subways, trains, buses, taxis, libraries, classrooms, study halls, laundromats, church pews, AA halls, senior centers…

As Peter Gabriel said, in his epic eulogy for   Stephen Biko:


“You can blow out a candle
But you can’t blow out a fire
When the flame begins to catch
The wind will blow it higher…”

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment

THE FLOTILLA CRIMES BY THE SATANIC ISRAEL STATE AND THE ALLY MYTH

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=507

ISRAELI PROPAGANDA wishes to convince the world that the Marmara Freedom Flotilla bound for Gaza on a humanitarian mission was actually a “terrorist” operation.

“Our soldiers were mobbed, they were beaten, there was even a report of gunfire…the soldiers had to defend themselves,” Netanyahu told reporters on the morning of the Israeli attack, May 31, 2010.

But why was there no mention by Netanyahu that Israel was the aggressor and assaulted the ship in international waters, being legal grounds for charging Israel with war crimes?

And why is the Jewish-owned mass media suppressing all political dissent over the Israeli criminal attacks on unarmed civilians and inundating us instead with continual news ad infinitum on the BP oil spill “crisis?”

A civilian aid worker from Greece, named Michael Grigoropoulos, who was on the ship along with citizens from fifty countries, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, and a former US ambassador, gives a more reliable account than the lying Netanyahu:

“The Israelis rose suddenly and seized the ship. They kept us as hostages under degrading conditions with weapons turned on us.

The Israelis kept us as prisoners and used videos ordering us to undress. They even used electric shocks and rubber bullets on us. Our requests to have lawyers represent us were denied. It was endless physical abuse and psychological warfare.”

DISPLAYING TO THE WESTERN PRESS an array of photos showing Israeli soldiers being “attacked” with clubs, knives, and metallic “weapons” in BROAD DAYLIGHT, somehow does not square with the widespread reporting that the Israeli attack took place at 4 AM under the cover of deep darkness. And besides, everyone knows the Israelis are lying.

With 19 civilians killed (no Israeli casualties of course), with bloodied passengers sprawled on the deck and others diving into the sea to save themselves from the Israeli onslaught — and while hundreds of aid workers were towed from the international waters to Israeli detention camps — it is time to ask ourselves, “Is Israel truly a strategic ally of the US?”

Mortimer Zuckerman, billionaire Jewish owner of US News & World Report and self-appointed political analyst on the Israel-Firster brigade, says “Yes.”

But Chas W. Freeman, former Assistant Secretary of Defense, and Philip Giraldi, a recognized authority on international security, both say “No.”


EXPLODING THE ‘STRATEGIC ALLY’ MYTH

CHALLENGING ZIONIST CLAIMS that American thirst for hegemony in the Mid East, and not the Israel lobby, is the prime motivator of US policy toward Israel, Chas Freeman presents convincing arguments against the Zionist position.

Describing the outworn strategic ally polemic as being “far from novel on any score,” Freeman then outlines a number of reasons why Israel is not a strategic ally of America:

-1- Israeli bases are not available for US use.

-2- The US has no bases or troop presence in Israel and stores only minimal military supplies in the country used at will by the IDF.

-3- None of Israel’s neighbors will facilitate overflight for military aircraft transiting over Israeli territory let alone taking off from there. Israel is useless for purposes of strategic logistics or power projection.

-4- Israel is worse than irrelevant to the defense of Middle Eastern energy supplies. The US relationship with Israel has jeopardized these supplies (as in 1973), rather than contributing to securing them.

-5- US relations with Israel do not bolster US prestige in Middle Eastern oil-producing countries or assist the US to “dominate” them, they complicate and weaken US influence. Instead, they have at times resulted in the suspension of US relations with such countries.

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By truedigger3, June 2, 2010 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment

Re:By jdelassus, June 2 at 9:46 pm #


I agree 100% with you, but also Taft-Hurtley law should have to be re-instated. It was repealed in 1947 and that was a blow to labor unions.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment

WATCH THIS GREAT VIDEO BY FRED GOLDSTEIN OF THE WORKERS PARTY OF USA. FRED GOLDSTEIN IS LITERALLY SAYING THAT THIS OLIGARCHIC-STAGE OF CAPITALISM IS BASED ON AN INVERTED ROBIN HOOD.  THE SYSTEM WORKS LIKE THIS: GOVERNMENTS STEAL WEALTH FROM PEOPLE THRU TAXES. AND GIVE THAT WEALTH TO THE RICH WITH THE BAILOUTS

http://workers.blip.tv/file/3638416/


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By tihsstaezevahc, June 2, 2010 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment

Chris Hedges

Quote:
“It does not mean we have to agree with Karl Marx, who advocated violence and whose worship of the state as a utopian mechanism led to another form of enslavement of the working class, but we have to speak in the vocabulary Marx employed.

This is exactly the point that wanna-be Marxists like Tennessee-Socialist and his friends just don’t seem to get.

Could you imagine that he would be so inane as to quote KKK Grand Wizard David Duke?

No wonder he and his friends have no credibility.

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By gerard, June 2, 2010 at 6:25 pm Link to this comment

Bears repeating!

By REDHORSE, June 2 at 1:25 pm #


A 12 Step Program (GOOD ONE!!). As a suggestion it is in line with Mr. Hedges belief that we “name” our problem. It’s true. What you can’t say owns you. That’s why the 1st Step is admitting powerlessness over, you name it (big oil, Washington thugs, a failing educational system,chocolate cake.,whatever). This allows one to begin putting down that baggage OLD MAN TURTLE talks about and “lighten up”. Most importantly, it begins to return ones personal power and allows redefinition of personal reality. Power is so abused in our society most people are suspicious and terrified of it. They don’t want personal power. That’s “the rub”.

  I was happy to see that our Constitution worked its’ way into the discussion. All we need is contained in it. Why else would the thugs in D.C. be working so hard to subvert it. We don’t need any “ism’s”. The Constitution is enough. The evil destroyung us springs from the moral bankruptcy of those poor visionless souls we elected. Like them,we are also profligate. It’s not them, it’s us. They only have the power over us we allow them to have. I’m sure Malcolm, Mother Teresa, Jesus, George Washington or Geronino would all tell us out front that FREEDOM is hard work. Look at the world and the kinds of dues peopple are paying. Yet, you and I have the time to stroke our ego’s at TRUTHDIG. Nah, theres time left and lots of work to be done. Don’t let the deal go down.

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By jdelassus, June 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment

Only fools and libertarians believe there are not fundamental flaws in capitalism, as well as command style state socialism. The best way forward is a mixed economy. Market capitalism with sensible regulations and social programs to clean up the mess that capitalism makes or can’t handle. Basically, the system that existed in this country from the end of WWII until the Reagan Administration rolled back many of the reforms of the New Deal enacted after the Great Depression and set in motion the economic crisis we are in today.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 5:09 pm Link to this comment

if people don’t overthrow the capitalist system in USA we will all get poorer, and not be able to join colleges, to have good health and we wont be able to achieve a complete self-realized life coz most people wont’ be able to study what they want or to become what they have in mind, and unfulfilled goals leads to a depressed sad life

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

MOST AMERICANS ARE WHAT FREDRICH NIETZSCHE CALLED “PASSIVE-NIHILISTS” (PESSIMISTS AND CONFORMIST DRONES)

I really don’t know what to say about USA, and its solution. There is a lot of evil in America not just in the US government.  In most american towns and cities people are too unfriendly with outsiders of their family and relatives.  And how can you convince people about socialism in this damned country if they don’t even talk to you, they are too antisocial, too angry, too unfriendly.  And in a environment like this is almost impossible to spread the ideology of socialism in our communities.

So i say let USA desintegrate into 4 different countries like Russian Scientist Panarin said because americans love capitalism, wars, fascism, and paying real high expensive utility services like Direct TV, Dish Network, AT&T, Verizon, etc.

Americans don’t seem to care about not being able to join a college because a college degree requires about 40,000.  Americans don’t care about being sick because a doctor’s appointment in USA is about 150 dollars.

So let the nation sink, because that’s what americans want


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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment

WATCH THIS GREAT VIDEO OF THE SOCIALIST LEADER LARRY HOLMES ABOUT FIGHTING RACISM AND FASCISM IN THE GLOBAL CAPITALIST CRISIS TODAY

http://www.blip.tv/file/3670370 <—Watch this great video by Larry Holmes leader of the Workers Party, about the threat of KKK Nazism in USA from The Party, Libertarianism and Arizona minute men !!

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By moonraven, June 2, 2010 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment

Well, I don’t know howmany good communists the gringos need—but they havemore than enough fascists to populate the planet several times over.

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By cmarcusparr, June 2, 2010 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Mentioning socialism to an American at a dinner party is the equivalent of taking a crap in the soup tureen. Using the term “democratic socialism” (as practiced in Denmark, the happiest country on earth) can end an otherwise amiable conversation and brand the perpetrator a “pinko communist.”

Our propaganda has been so successful that Americans see socialism as antithetical to their “way of life.” The 95-Percenters in this country—meaning, those living on the crumbs falling from the table of the 5-Percenters—vote, by and large, against their own best interest. Many parrot what they hear on Limbaugh and Fox News, not realizing that they’re cutting their own working-class throats. What this country could use, lady and gentlemen, is a little democratic socialism.

Those who know should do their best to educate our brethren as to what the managers and owners of their companies are doing to us. Rein in the corporations before America becomes “Amerika” with a swastika embedded in the flag. “Fascism will come to America waving a flag and wearing a cross.” Sinclair Lewis.

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By ohiolibgal, June 2, 2010 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

It is more dangerous now than ever to have robber barons in control, since now they pretty much control Washington and control mass media even more.

What is maddening is that so many people are so pliable and buy the lies right wingers (and too many democrats) spread to protect their benefactors - and so continually support people who in no way have their best interests at heart.

Meanwhile income inequality is going through the roof in this country.

What a different situation if tax cuts for the rich and for big corporations got reversed, and we cut our ridiculous defense budget in half (we would still be spending more than the next 8 nations!). Yet these kind of sensible things get no traction at all.

Meanwhile - the US is closing in on being a 3rd world country. It will happen sooner rather than later if China or whoever quits financing our insanity.

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By MarquisdeSodom, June 2, 2010 at 2:19 pm Link to this comment

Communism will not save America (or the planet) anymore than (as Hedges
rather idiotically proclaims - that “religion is what saves us from ourselves” -
perhaps he should tell that to victims of pedophilic priests or FDLS women
forced into marriage) because no political philosophy is capable of engendering
a society where all human needs are met if only for the simple and probably
obvious reason that needs conflict with each other and the word need is too
subjective to ever be defined. As someone who thinks that humanity is not
capable of morally progressing/evolving, Hedges is surprisingly much more of
a utopian than the four “New Atheists” he relentlessly (and excessively) slams
in his second most recent screed. The “New Atheists” (erroneously) say (or
rather imply since none of them actually say) “that if we get rid of religion and
faith and we’ll be able to live in a rational and functional world guided by
science and reason. Hedges, on the other hand, says get rid of capitalism,
hedge funds, television, porn, automobiles (and any other miasma of
modernity) and we’ll achieve a society guided by empathy, love, and
distributive justice. Well, nonsense.           
    Communism (whether Soviet style or whatever the hell Marx intended -
who really knows? He himself didn’t claim to be a Marxist) is not a viable
economic or political system because all political and economic systems are
inherently oligarchic and fascistic. The powerful will always find a way to
exploit the less powerful, because that is the history of humanity and I thought
Hedges was astute enough to recognize this given the pessimistic, grim, and
unflattering portrait of humankind he has painted in most of his works (I am
tempted to wonder why he would perpetuate the human species at all in having
three children of his own, but I will suspend that wonder).
        Over the years I have seen the quality of Hedge’s writing degenerate
from courageous and insightful analyses on war and the human condition to
pure self-serving, self-righteous tirades against all things modern. I don’t
know how seriously I can take anyone who proclaims that “liberals are useless”
(which, assuming he means latte-lapping, NPR listening, NYT/New Yorker
perusing foppish bourgeois idealists, he couldn’t be more correct) when liberals
(at least the Naderite variety) are his very (indeed only) audience left.

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By nemesis2010, June 2, 2010 at 11:31 am Link to this comment

By Fat Freddy, June 1 at 11:17 pm

”I’m not sure you understand what a corporation is. I didn’t either, and I had a similar view as you until it was explained to me.”

Well I disagree with that and suggest that you learn what a euphemism is and how it is used with respect to humans functioning within the corporate structure.

A corporation, in and of itself, cannot be good or evil. A corporation is an idea, it’s not a living breathing organism. I thought that I made it clear in my last response that it is the actions of human beings within the framework of that entity known as a corporation that commit evil. When people say the corporations own the government they are not meaning to say that a corporation grew legs and a mouth and walked over to the Congress and bought the government. They are using a euphemism that indicates that powerful groups of humans within a corporate structure influence the government—which is another group of human beings working within another man-made entity—for their benefit and which almost always works against the best interest of the public at large.

Human beings are the problem. Human beings because of who and what we are create evil or good.

This article and discussion is not about corporations but rather our collapsing social/economic/political system. Corporations are a part of that system, they are not the system. It’s important that we not lose sight of what the main theme is here.

In an earlier post I asked 10 questions. They were directed to rfidler—TD’s resident and self-proclaimed conservative—but he has yet to respond. I now ask you to please respond to those ten questions. Scroll down to “By nemesis2010, June 1 at 3:53 pm.” You can answer them all at once or one or two at a time here or in the thread “You Need a Raise” where in response to one of your comments I posited 4 questions to you.

I hope that you won’t disappoint because—IMO—those questions hit at the heart of what we face socially, economically, and politically. They are—IMO—much more pertinent to the subject matter of both articles than simply a discussion about corporations.

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By rolmike, June 2, 2010 at 10:52 am Link to this comment

Unfortunately the way the cookie is crumbling in this
country -
with its idol worship, its Manicheaism, its gnat’s
memory, a money-controlled, two-party system,
a military-industrial complex with roots in every
congressional district,
and the need to be in a constant state of war, and the
boobefied confusion of
an electorate - - it is toward fascism, question being to
what extent that the
institutions will hold.

In the struggle between the haves and the have-nots that
became serious with the French Revolution the have-nots
have been easily bought off and compromised. No matter
how compromised the founding fathers
of this country were, they at least appear to have had a
sense of history and a healthy respect for
the wages of human desires for power; when the have-nots
achieve power it
is usually that lack of sense of historical skepticism
that makes them repeat
the worst of the old mistakes.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 10:32 am Link to this comment

By Fat Freddy, June 2 at 8:35 am #


DOWNLOAD THESE GREAT SPEECHES BY BOB AVAKIAN LEADER OF THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY OF USA TO GET A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE ARE IN THIS ROTTEN SITUATION, AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT:

Why We’re In The Situation We’re In Today And What To Do About It: A Thoroughly Rotten System and the Need for Revolution

http://bobavakian.net/talk1.html


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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 2, 2010 at 10:13 am Link to this comment

By Fat Freddy, June 2 at 8:35 am #


Hello, i don’t really know a lot about Marxist Philosophy. The little i know has come from internet leftist and marxist news sites.  However what i understand about Karl Marx, F. Engels and other ideologists of socialism is that they were not the inventors of socialism.  They were just philosophers, and critical thinkers.  What they wrote about however was political systems and societies have evolved since the Ancient Empires 1000 B.C. until the late 1800s of their lifetime.

They did not propose any utopian systems at all.  What they wrote about how the capitalist class some day will not be the master-class anymore and will be replaced by the working-class as being the master-ruling class.

They said that societies since ancient empires have rulers and ruled, master-class and slave-class, and the same happens today in USA and all over the world. (Where the rich are the master-class and the majority people out there even those who drive BMWs and new Volvos are the oppressed slave class.

Marx, and Engels said a political-economic system cannot last for ever.  They wrote that capitalism began around 1700s (The system where businesses are owned by the capitalist-class not by aristocracy), and some day capitalism will end and will be replaced by socialism (system where working class owns all businesses)

So what i mean is that Marx, Engels and other ideologists of socialism didn’t invent socialism at all, they just wrote from an objective neutral view how political systems change since ancient times until today


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By REDHORSE, June 2, 2010 at 9:25 am Link to this comment

A 12 Step Program (GOOD ONE!!). As a suggestion it is in line with Mr. Hedges belief that we “name” our problem. It’s true. What you can’t say owns you. That’s why the 1st Step is admitting powerlessness over, you name it (big oil, Washington thugs, a failing educational system,chocolate cake.,whatever). This allows one to begin putting down that baggage OLD MAN TURTLE talks about and “lighten up”. Most importantly, it begins to return ones personal power and allows redefinition of personal reality. Power is so abused in our society most people are suspicious and terrified of it. They don’t want personal power. That’s “the rub”.

    I was happy to see that our Constitution worked its’ way into the discussion. All we need is contained in it. Why else would the thugs in D.C. be working so hard to subvert it. We don’t need any “ism’s”. The Constitution is enough. The evil destroyung us springs from the moral bankruptcy of those poor visionless souls we elected. Like them,we are also profligate. It’s not them, it’s us. They only have the power over us we allow them to have. I’m sure Malcolm, Mother Teresa, Jesus, George Washington or Geronino would all tell us out front that FREEDOM is hard work. Look at the world and the kinds of dues peopple are paying. Yet, you and I have the time to stroke our ego’s at TRUTHDIG. Nah, theres time left and lots of work to be done. Don’t let the deal go down.

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By George Fernandez, June 2, 2010 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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I agree w.alot of what hedges says but he needs to brush up on his communism. Marx/engels held that the state would “wither away” after the first stage of commmunism (socialism) has served its purpose of crushing finance and industrial capital and class antoganosim at a certan level were settled, once that was complete the state would not be necessary as to standing armies and large bureaucracy. Chris and everyone must recognize that democracy is merely a means to and end. The finance/industrial capitalist class have won the battle of democracy and have established their dictatorship (just look around)it is the productive class and the economically poor’s job to win the battle of democracy (how is another matter) and establish a vanguard/dictatorship for said class against counterrevolutionaires war mongers who wish to overthrow the people rule and continue thier path to partition the world amongst themselves with the power of the state across the world. CHRIS UR ARTICLE IMPLIES THAT U HAVE NOT READ STATE AND REVOLUTION BECAUSE LENIN TAKES UR ARGUMENTS (WHICH EXISTED AT THE TIME) ABOUT CCOMMUNISM AND CLARIFIES THE COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY. PLEASE READ IT AND OTHER IMPORTANT WORKS BY MARX, ENGELS, LENIN BEFORE U AND ANYONE ELSE SPEAK CONCLUSORY ABOUT WHAT COMMUNISM IS AND IT IS FAR FROM UTOPIAN!! THATS A CLASSIC LINE TO MAKE COMMUNISM SEEM UNATTAINABLE.

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By Anarcissie, June 2, 2010 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

Fat Freddy, June 2 at 8:35 am:
‘Tennessee-Socialist

You seem to be very well versed in Marxist Theory. I am not. However, I do know, that Marx did not provide an economic model to support his Utopian society. Economics can not be avoided. People need a means for the exchange of goods and services (money). The closest thing we have to a Socialist economic model is Keynesianism, which is severely flawed. ...’

Keyensianism is not remotely socialist.  Socialism is the ownership and control of the means of production by the workers.  Keynesianism is a plan for a ruling class or government to manipulate a capitalist economy through high-level interventions, especially of the monetary sort, which is supposed to mitigate some of the defects of capitalism, especially the boom-bust cycle, in order to make capitalism more palatable.

The problem with Keynesianism, it seems to me, is that the same enthusiasm for booms which leads to boom-bust cycles in capitalism is also going to affect politics of capitalist government.  At least, this is exactly what we observe in the behavior of the Federal Reserve and other government agencies in the 1980-present period, under the leadership of Bubbles Greenspan.  In retrospect I don’t see how it could be otherwise.  Otherwise I suppose it might be said to work.

You are correct in saying that Marx did not specify the organization of socialism (which in his theory was to follow the certain collapse of capitalism).  Apparently he thought it was not going to be a big problem.  Since no actually socialist economy (by my definitions) larger than a few thousand people has ever existed, we don’t have much evidence to go on.  That in itself is a pretty strong argument against what particulars there are of Marx’s post-capitalist vision.

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By RenZo, June 2, 2010 at 8:17 am Link to this comment

@ Fat Freddy,who wrote
«It is not Capitalism which is to blame for our current crisis, it is Socialist central planning that is responsible. F.A. Hayek described free markets as “organized chaos”.»

To be precise we would need your explanation of “(C)apitalism”, “(S)ocialist central planning”, and “our current crisis”. I can’t remember socialists being anywhere close to power in the past three hundred years. I do know that bounded chaos has rules, and if you are pretending that the past thirty years of increasingly wild & unrestrained speculative profiteering by “capitalists” is bounded chaos, you should consider for a moment whether society’s best interests are served by such rules. Maybe the rules of this bounded chaos should include a limit on harming citizens & small private investors. That’s not socialism either, just chaos with bigger boundaries.

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By Oz132, June 2, 2010 at 7:54 am Link to this comment

Yes.
The trouble with Liberals, is that they are always trying to get for the Working Class more crumbs from the Capitalist’s Table.
But in fact, we workers raised the grain, baked the bread and built the f—-ing table!
It’s our bread. And Our Table!
And the Gulf of Mexico belongs to Everybody.

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By RenZo, June 2, 2010 at 7:53 am Link to this comment

@Dhamma3,June2at8:43am

The problem with postings by Dhamma3 is that they are always negative and hopeless, like the recent critique of Hedges for being hopeless and negative. Dhamma3 should write for once about postive and constructive ways to climb out of this mess, not keep analyzing how we got into it and how bad it is.

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By Leefeller, June 2, 2010 at 6:49 am Link to this comment

Hedges has done it again, humored the kids looking though a kilidscope empowing them with dreaming of Genie!

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By kukai, June 2, 2010 at 6:12 am Link to this comment

I’ve got to wonder just how much each member of Congress was paid to vote for the bailout.  A million?  What other carrots and sticks were used to get their votes?  And how does a trillion dollar bailout have anything to do with capitalism?  Make no mistake about it, Wall Street owns The White House and the American people.  Slavery is back, folks.

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By ofersince72, June 2 at 1:50 am #

“This Country Needs A Few Good Communists”.


This Country Needs A Twelve Step Program.

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By Dhamma3, June 2, 2010 at 4:43 am Link to this comment

Though Hedges makes many valid points, the problem I have with his writing is his continued sense of helplessness and negativity never lead to building the antidote to the present system. It is easy to excoriate, much more difficult to work and build solutions. There are those out there working to try to build the antidote. They are small in numbers and work unnoticed by the the main stream media, but they are there.  Chris, how about once in a while presenting those working for change.  Enough with the negativity. We need to build something, and no amount of bitching is going to make that happen.

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By Fat Freddy, June 2, 2010 at 4:35 am Link to this comment

Tennessee-Socialist

You seem to be very well versed in Marxist Theory. I am not. However, I do know, that Marx did not provide an economic model to support his Utopian society. Economics can not be avoided. People need a means for the exchange of goods and services (money). The closest thing we have to a Socialist economic model is Keynesianism, which is severely flawed. Our current crisis, and Japan’s ongoing 20 year crisis has revealed that. It is simply not possible for a government, any governemnt, to “centrally plan”, or control such a large economy. It is not Capitalism which is to blame for our current crisis, it is Socialist central planning that is responsible. F.A. Hayek described free markets as “organized chaos”. It ain’t pretty, but it works. Yes, there are winners and there are losers. But this is mostly due to the fraudulent fractional reserve lending system that the banks use, the institutions that the government created to protect them, such as the Federal Reserve System and the FDIC and the legal tender laws which force people to accept the government’s worthless fiat currency. If people truly understood what the Federal Reserve does, they would be tearing it down, brick by brick, with their bare hands.

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By Gordy, June 2, 2010 at 4:30 am Link to this comment

Chris, think you for making me aware of Howe’s book.  I
could hardly agree more with that quote.

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By Inherit The Wind, June 2, 2010 at 4:22 am Link to this comment

Amazing.
T-S can cite David Duke, Klansman and George Washington, Hero, in the same thread.

BTW, T-S’s advocacy for violent rebellion was NOT unconditionally supported by Washington.  In T-S’s own citation, Washington says it is THE LAST RESORT after all non-violent means and paths have been exhausted.

IOW, Frustration with the system is NOT an excuse for violent rebellion.  Only exhaustion of all non-violent means can be.  People mis-quote and mis-understand Malcolm X’s statement “by any means necessary”.

What Malcolm X actually said was: ““We declare our right on this earth to be a human being, to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being in this society, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence by any means necessary.”

Notice that this is fundamentally NO DIFFERENT than the following:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. “

To me, Malcolm X was simply succinctly restating Jefferson’s words in the Declaration.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment

By ThomasG, June 1 at 9:31 pm #


Well i think that Socialism is a system where the workers are the government rulers of the country. And at the same time the business of the country are owned by workers.  Socialism is really a dictatorship of the proletariat.  A workers-government.  So Cuba and North Korea have state-capitalist systems not socialist systems


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By ofersince72, June 1, 2010 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

This is fuckin off subject..but how convenient
the government didn’t stick some cameras of their own
down there so we wouldn’t have to rely totally on BP
for images of just what the fuck is going on down there.

I know what I saw Friday night,
there was a volcano coming from the ocean floor right
after they said top Kill had failed.
They have not shown that volcano again.
and since they refuse to put a time frame on this video
cutting the rizor, We have no idea when this really took
place.
But the volcano they showed for a few hours Friday night
didn’t have one damn thing attached to it, not the rizor,
not the BOP, nothing, it stood by itself.
I wish they would show that volcano again.
and I wish our federal government would at least put
some cameras down there a month ago.
I for got we have no government , we have managers for
the oil companies, sorry.

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By Money is funny, June 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm Link to this comment

“Mr. Hedges and many of those responding to this column of his could benefit immensely by remembering the pure natural freedom and the essential organic necessity of traveling Light”

Who will be “traveling light” next as a substitute?

Can we pick on some white people next?

I would like to travel and I am tired of being perceived as rascist.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 10:14 pm Link to this comment

READ THESE GEORGE WASHINGTON QUOTES TO DEFFEND U.S.A AGAINST ISRAEL: # 1 ENEMY OF U.S.A

http://tennessee-chaviztas.blogspot.com/2009/11/read-these-george-washington-quotes-to.html

While we are contending for our own liberty, we should be very cautious not to violate the rights of conscience in others, ever considering that God alone is the judge of the hearts of men, and to him only in this case they are answerable.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Benedict Arnold, Sep. 14, 1775

Nothing is a greater stranger to my breast, or a sin that my soul more abhors, than that black and detestable one, ingratitude.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Governor Dinwiddie, May 29, 1754

There is a Destiny which has the control of our actions, not to be resisted by the strongest efforts of Human Nature.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Mrs. George William Fairfax, Sep. 12, 1758

At a time, when our lordly masters in Great Britain will be satisfied with nothing less than the deprivation of American freedom, it seems highly necessary that something should be done to avert the stroke, and maintain the liberty, which we have derived from our ancestors. But the manner of doing it, to answer the purpose effectually, is the point in question. That no man should scruple, or hesitate a moment, to use arms in defence of so valuable a blessing, on which all the good and evil of life depends, is clearly my opinion. Yet arms, I would beg leave to add, should be the last resource, the dernier resort. Addresses to the throne, and remonstrances to Parliament, we have already, it is said, proved the inefficacy of. How far, then, their attention to our rights and privileges is to be awakened or alarmed, by starving their trade and manufacturers, remains to be tried.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to George Mason, Apr. 5, 1769

I shall not be deprived ... of a comfort in the worst event, if I retain a consciousness of having acted to the best of my judgment.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Colonel Bassett, Jun. 19, 1775

Remember that it is the actions, and not the commission, that make the officer, and that there is more expected from him, than the title.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, Address to the Officers of the Virginia Regiment, Jan. 8, 1756

It is with pleasure I receive reproof, when reproof is due, because no person can be readier to accuse me, than I am to acknowledge an error, when I am guilty of one; nor more desirous of atoning for a crime, when I am sensible of having committed it.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Governor Dinwiddie, Aug. 27, 1757

I have diligently sought the public welfare; and have endeavoured to inculcate the same principles in all that are under me. These reflections will be a cordial to my mind as long as I am able to distinguish between Good & Evil.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to the Speaker of the House of Burgesses, Dec. 1756

The ways of Providence being inscrutable, and the justice of it not to be scanned by the shallow eye of humanity, nor to be counteracted by the utmost efforts of human power or wisdom, resignation, and as far as the strength of our reason and religion can carry us, a cheerful acquiescence to the Divine Will, is what we are to aim.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Colonel Bassett, Apr. 25, 1773

A man’s intentions should be allowed in some respects to plead for his actions.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to the Speaker of the House of Burgesses, Dec. 1756

I shall make it the most agreeable part of my duty to study merit, and reward the brave and deserving.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, Address to the Officers of the Virginia Regiment, Jan. 8, 1756

By the all-powerful dispensations of Providence, I have been protected beyond all human probability and expectation; for I had four bullets through my coat, and two horses shot under me, yet escaped unhurt, altho’ death was levelling my companions on every side.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to John A. Washington, Jul. 18, 1755

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By ofersince72, June 1, 2010 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment

“This Country Needs A Few Good Communists”.


This Country Needs A Twelve Step Program.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 9:44 pm Link to this comment

By Loren Bliss, June 1 at 11:58 pm #

You are so right in what you said.  And i think that the problem in USA is with the leaders of the left.  I think that the left in USA needs to regroup into a large United Front allied with the Fifth International, and in solidarity with the United Socialist Party of Venezuela and the Bolivarian Revolution, The Cuban Revolution, the Bolivian Government, the leftist political parties of Europe, Asia, and other parts of this world.  Because i believe that socialism must be international because capitalism (The enemy) is international.

But specifically talking about USA. I think that the left in America should regroup into a United Workers Front, the problem is that there are too many sectarianism in the american leftist parties and that’s the real impediment toward a unity of the left in America.


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By christian96, June 1, 2010 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment

” We have to grasp, as Marx did, that corporations are not concerned with the common good.”

While that exertion by Mr. Hedges is currently true
it doesn’t mean that Capitalism is in and of itself
evil.  The current structure of Capitalism needs a
good “tune up” so that it serves the common good of
all people.  It is the responsibity of those who
govern us to make such a tune-up.  My suggestion
would be to employ attitudes and behaviors advocated
by Jesus Christ within the Capitalist system. How
could a Capitalist turn their back on others if they
loved and served others?

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By BAukerman, June 1, 2010 at 9:07 pm Link to this comment
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Capitalism sucks, but that can’t be the Left’s entire message, it has no
positive content.  The left needs to adopt a coherent vision for an
alternative system with real concrete features.  In order for people to take
steps in the right…err left direction we first need to figure out where we
want to end up.

Chomsky, among others, support this:
http://www.zcommunications.org/topics/parecon

See what YOU think and critique.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 8:24 pm Link to this comment

WATCH THIS GREAT VIDEO OF THE SOCIALIST LEADER LARRY HOLMES ABOUT FIGHTING RACISM AND FASCISM IN THE GLOBAL CAPITALIST CRISIS TODAY

http://www.blip.tv/file/3670370


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By Loren Bliss, June 1, 2010 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Hedges observation that language is our “first step toward salvation”—that “we cannot fight what we cannot describe”—is truly profound, the first statement I have seen by any widely circulated writer anywhere in the United States that suggests a real possibility of escape from the mental concentration camp I call Moron Nation.

Moron Nation is the condition into which we were flung by moronation—the purges of the McCarthy Era (its chief legacy the reduction of “intellectual” not just to a pejorative of maximum contempt but a synonym for “traitor”), and the subsequent 24/7 conditioning—dumbing down—imposed on us by public schools and Ruling Class Media nearly ever since.

As for myself, I escaped moronation only in old age. For most of my years a New Deal Democrat (and thereby conned to submission by the post-FDR charade of U.S. politics), I was driven to an embittered flirtation with conservatism after the destruction of my life by vengeful disability bureaucrats (if their self-protective malice was socialism I wanted no part of it), and rescued from that dementia only by a series of almost-eerie epiphanies about lessons in class struggle (and objective analysis in general) taught me in boyhood by a Marxian father now long dead.

One of my father’s axioms was that “things will get so bad in this country the Red Army will be welcomed as an army of liberation,” but of course when socioeconomic conditions began reaching that point, the Soviet Union itself was dead—the very slaying that unleashed the tyrannosaur of capitalism in all its relentless savagery.

Like it or not, and despite the fact the USSR was never the workers’ paradise it proclaimed itself, we owe it a huge debt of thanks, and not just for saving us from Hitler during World War II. This is because it was only the capitalists’ abject terror of the Red Army that prompted the Big Lie of capitalist humanitarianism. The capitalists’ dominant fear was that they might awaken some morning to the legendary Tschankas (or some latter-day counterpart) rumbling into their domains accompanied by the sort of wild cheering and shameless expressions of gratitude that signified the Liberation of Paris. 

The truth—as we are now learning—is that capitalism is the closest our species has ever come to reproducing the hitherto purely theological condition of Absolute Evil: infinite greed redefined as maximum virtue, limitless selfishness as ultimate good.

What is unique about the United States—what makes escaping Moron Nation almost impossible—is the extent to which the traditional Ruling Class credo of limitless greed and selfishness has been metastasized, largely thanks to Ayn Rand, throughout the Working Class: note my individual experience with viciously self-serving disability bureaucrats, note our collective experience with the insufferable arrogance of government bureaucrats in general.     

To make socialism a workable ideology in this nation will we will have to work as hard to overcome that obstacle as well as to resist the specific oppressiveness of the Ruling Class—an oppressiveness that is bound to turn violent as soon as it is seriously threatened. 

That a writer of Mr. Hedges’ stature seems to have begun reaching the same conclusions—especially his recognition that our first step is to reclaim the knowledge that will enable us to understand our powerlessness—gives me the first glimmer of hope I have felt since I recognized the extent to which President Obama is truly Barack the Betrayer.

(I am an allegedly retired journalist—half writer, half photographer—of a bit more than 50 years experience. My blog is “Outside Agitator’s Notebook.” Its URL is below, in my post today at 6:06 p.m.)

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By Inherit The Wind, June 1, 2010 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment

T-S:

You reveal yourself with this post:

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Tennessee-Socialist, June 1 at 3:43 pm #

ISRA-HELL DID 9/11.  AND ISRA-HELL SHOULD PAY FOR THE MASS-MURDER OF 9/11

http://www.davidduke.com/general/israeli-terrorism-and-sept-11_13.html

How Israeli terrorism and American treason caused the September 11 Attacks

By David Duke
National President
European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO)

Read in Russian

If Osama bin Laden is the man behind the attack that caused the death of thousands of Americans on September 11, I, like most Americans want to him to suffer the ultimate punishment for his crime. No person or nation that commits terrorism against America should escape punishment….
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Everyone: Does the name “David Duke” sound familiar? It should! This is the most infamous Ku Klux Klansman in America, the founder of the “National Association for the Advancement of White People”, and NOW the head of “EURO”.  Yeah, same guy.

That is who Tennessee-Socialist is now quoting as an “authority”:  A bona-fide White Racist Anti-Semite advocate for THE most hideous terrorist organization in American history, responsible for more murders in its foul background than all the deaths on 9/11.

Now you know why I put no stock in anything T-S has to say.

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

nemesis2010

I’m not sure you understand what a corporation is. I didn’t either, and I had a similar view as you until it was explained to me. Corporations, in general, do not get special treatment from the government, but individual corporations do. In fact, being a small business owner, it is actually more beneficial to me, not to incorporate. If I were to incorporate, I would have to pay taxes twice, on the same money. The business would have to pay a 35% corporate tax on earnings, plus I would have to pay taxes on any salary that I draw and any profits I extract as personal income. You see, as a corporation, my personal finances are separate from the business finances, and both pay taxes.

A corporation is simply an agreement between individual shareholders (partners, owners), and limited liability is an agreement between a group of shareholders and bondholders (creditors, banks). But most of all, a corporation is a separation of ownership and management. I suppose that begs the question, is that really desirable? Would I be wise to turn over all business decisions of my small business to a manager, or should I at least retain a type of veto. In a corporation, shareholders only get to vote on who will manage the company.

Particular corporations can be mismanaged. They are sometimes too large or too diversified to operate efficiently; too slow to innovate; overloaded with debt; top-heavy with high-salaried, and sometimes dishonest, executives; or too slow to respond to challenges from domestic or foreign competitors. But this does not invalidate corporations as a class. Whatever the shortcomings of particular companies or whole industries, corporations are a superb matchmaking mechanism to bring savers (investors) and borrowers (workers and managers) together for their mutual benefit.

Here is an excellent description of what corporations are and how they evolved.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Corporations.html

Corporations are not inherently evil. The evil arises when collusion between government and corporations exist. Personally, I think it is more desirable to limit the power of governemnt, rather than limit the freedom of individuals to enter into a private contract. I also believe that it was the goal of the Constitution to limit the power of government. Rights are not granted by the government, government can only deny rights. That is the philosophical theory of unalienable rights. But you knew that, right?

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 6:40 pm Link to this comment

JDmysticDJ

First of all, I really don’t give a crap about Krugman’s “credentials”.

Second, Austrian economics is not supply-side (voodoo).

Third, you can not create wealth by printing money.

Fourth, the ability to manipulate the currency gives the government the ability to wage wars, such as Vietnam.

There are some basics in economics which need to be understood. The wealth of a nation is not the amount of money it has. Real wealth can only be created by savings, and investment in production, not from debt, consumption and investment in worthless paper. Whenever the government prints more money, it devalues all of the money already in circulation. This benefits the “first owners” (the big banks) of the new money at the expense of all others down the line. Keynesian economics has not benefited this country, it has hurt it, considerably. It is responsible for all of the price inflation of the last 60 or so years. Real wages never, repeat never, keep up with real inflation (price). It is also responsible for exaggerating the natural business cycles into boom/bust cycles, which have been increasing in severity and occurrence. Businesses normally go through periods of savings, and periods of expansion. When businesses are going through a period of savings, it can be desirable to expand credit markets, to a degree to encourage expansion. When production returns to a period of expansion, that credit supply must be returned to normal. However, it rarely is returned to normal, because politicians do not want to be responsible for creating a recession. That is he failure of Keynesian Theory. Keynesian Theory attempts to turn human behavior into a mathematical equation. It is a “soft” science masquerading as a “hard” science. All macro is.

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By Fat Freddy, June 1 at 6:55 pm

”I’m not sure exactly what you are getting at. You say all corporations are greedy and evil.”

A corporation is not a natural entity. You can do what you do without it being a corporation. Before it became fashionable for every small business to incorporate in order to take advantages of tax breaks, impunity, etc. they were called companies and the world still revolved and the economy still grew.

It’s corporate structure and the laws that benefit corporations to the detriment of society that is evil. It isn’t every person within a corporation that is evil but rather what a group of individuals can and often do within that framework that is known as a corporation that is evil.

These evil corporate CEOs love their families and many probably truly believe that the objectives of, and what they are doing within the framework of, the corporation is good for society. But it simply isn’t so. They delude themselves. Does that mean that one is evil or that the individuals within corporations are all evil? No. Does the propensity to do evil that one would not even consider as an individual exist within the corporate structure? Yes, definitely.

Today—IMO—the single biggest problem with corporations is corporate personhood.

The corporation is anti-free-market. So when you come here and decry all the criticism of corporations while claiming to be an advocate of the free-market you are, sir, simply full of your own delusion.

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By radson, June 1, 2010 at 6:15 pm Link to this comment

Jdmysticdj

Very well written post and you definitely have a interesting point of view ,but the overall question remains how to maintain this market economy and still remain within the realm of self-sustainability. You do realize
that continual growth will only create new bubbles in the future if a balance is not found .How far the speculators will go in their false front of monetary enslavement towards the people is being played out as we speak and eventually the people may come to realize that the banks hold a false front of cards which could crumble as surely as usury become the mainstay so many centuries ago.

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By JDmysticDJ, June 1, 2010 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment

Fat Freddy

Social Justice Crap? Sound Monetary Policy? Krugman an Idiot? Keynes was wrong? Full Employment is a myth?

You would like for us stupid, uninformed, bleeding hearts to ignore this crappy social justice stuff. What, doesn’t social justice fit into a cost benefit analysis plan? Which monetary policy is sound? There are several kinds of monetary policy. Please school us, poor idiots, about monetary policy. Clearly, Krugman lacks your intelligence and superior economics expertise. I’m really impressed, would you mind relating your economics credentials.

Paul Robin Krugman Born February 28, 1953) is an American economist, columnist and author. He is Professor of Economics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University, Centenary Professor at the London School of Economics, and an op-ed columnist for The New York Times.  In 2008, Krugman won the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics for his contributions to New Trade Theory and New Economic Geography. He was voted sixth in a 2005 global poll of the world’s top 100 intellectuals by Prospect.

Keynesian economics served us very well until,

“The Vietnam War was responsible for a heavy strain on the financial resources of the US economy. Due to the war exigency, there was a negative imbalance in the industrial sector. Factories which were manufacturing consumer goods had to shift their onus towards catering to the demands of the military. A war never benefits anyone; this statement proved right to America too.”

“Due to excessive military spending and diversion of funds overseas, the dollar weakened. There was no equivalent amount of funds coming into the country. The country cringed under the strain of household social spending and subsidies on one side and military expenditure on the other. The government earned dissatisfaction from the general public as the interest rates rose and inflationary trends ballooned. The affluent lifestyle of the 60s which prevailed in the US began to erode because of the economic paralysis which laid the country forlorn in the 70s’ Vietnam War.”

The consequences of abandoning Keynesian economics seem to be quantifiable to most. Much maligned statistics are actually quite enlightening when they provide data about the consequences of economic policies. Statistics are not so useful when they are projections based on self serving ideological economics theories, theories that have been proven fallacious to all but the most dogmatic of ideologues.

Now I’m just a dumbie, but it seems to me, if a work force is fully employed, they buy things and they pay taxes. Doesn’t that expand markets, and increase government revenues? Also, if tax rates are decreased for the highest income earners, doesn’t that shift the burden of government expenditures to lower income people, thereby redistributing the wealth upward; giving the richest more money to play with. As we’ve seen these people appear to be degenerate gamblers, who have done a very good job of degenerating the economy, and it’s clear to most that they care very little about improving the economy, and very much about improving their personal bottom lines.

Thanks for the link to the voodoo screed, but I think I’ll pass.

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By ThomasG, June 1, 2010 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment

prole, June 1 at 4:19 pm,

What you have to say is amorphous nonsense. 

American socialism provides the infrastructure for democracy and capitalism; and democracy itself is a form of socialism.

Socialism in the form of social capital recapitalizes private capital with every so called economic cycle of privatized capitalism; you know the cycles that I am talking about, where privatized capitalism FAILS every 30 to 40 years, and social capital is used to bring the dead and ungrateful beast back to life without social benefit being derived by the American populace for the social capital provided to recapitalize private capital.

Talking about time warp socialism of Marx and Engles, as framed by Capitalism as an enemy that serves the interests of sophist propaganda to demonize socialism as an economic system, when socialism is NOT,  and NEVER WAS an economic system.

Socialism is a social system and socialism has been used in the United States for over 230 years as the underpinnings of democracy and the host for the parasite of Capitalism that is attached to socialism like a parasite that is a thankless child that condemns the host that provides the blood of social capital that keeps privatized Capitalism alive.

The derogatory propaganda frame of socialism in other countries are of no concern to the American Model of Socialism that has worked effectively for over 230 years.  If you want to talk about Socialism in America, talk about the successful model of socialism that has been used for over 230 years that is responsible for the economic development of the North American continent; NOT FAILED models of socialism of Marx and Engles in the USSR.

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By Old Man Turtle, June 1, 2010 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment
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ATTENTION DUMMIES!  This ordeal really will be over pretty soon.  Then we can all get back to what we were doing before we were so rudely interrupted.  Meantime, getting all tensed-up will only make things worse for you when the virtual crash finally comes.  After all, we knew going-in it was a stress-to-destruct test, and there’s nobody left now but us volunteers here anyhow.

The much maligned Spirit Airlines, by the way, is doing a great service in reminding us that clinging to our “baggage,” intellectual and otherwise, is a luxury (like powered flight itself?) none of us can any longer afford.  Mr. Hedges and many of those responding to this column of his could benefit immensely by remembering the pure natural freedom and the essential organic necessity of traveling Light.
 
Those who persist in spreading fear (They know who they are.) may be sedated, for their own safety and for the welfare of the children aboard.  So please just relax, and enjoy the company of friends and family during the short time remaining of this “long strange trip.”

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

nemesis2010

I’m not sure exactly what you are getting at. You say all corporations are greedy and evil. So, that would include my community bank, Colonial Bank FSB, which started out as a thrift, and is currently a mutual holding company but wants to change to a stock holding company? I was recently sent a proxy vote card should I vote “No” to the proposed change? Once they change from a mutual holding company to a stock holding company, they become evil and greedy? But technically, a mutual holding company is a type of corporate structure, so is a thrift, for that matter. I suppose you would say that credit unions are not evil, since they are not-for-profit, and exist only to serve its members. The only problem with that, is that I can’t even get a simple checking account for my sole proprietorship business. Credit unions offer no financial services for businesses.

Are partnerships and limited partnerships also evil? I suppose we can all agree that trusts are evil. If I were to change my sole proprietorship to an incorporated LLC, which is a corporate structure, would that make me evil?

http://www.colonialbankfsb.com/AboutUs.aspx

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By Glagla-Klungly, June 1, 2010 at 2:21 pm Link to this comment

Thank you very mush for answer and you ar very smart and i understad mush but not all the religion thing with jesus and socialism part,you say socialism is close to religion no.maybe your rite ,one more think that
pot guy come from ware the combodia no he kiiled many peoples and nobody give a shit no funny how the people tink thank you sir.

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By Rgyle, June 1, 2010 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

Another disturbing diatribe by Hedges. And many sharp, insightful comments. But no “ism” or “ist” will resolve this hellish dilemma. It’s not the system, it’s you and me.

The call to fight someone or something “out there” is futile. Yes, there is a great need to rise up, wake up and find the courage for real change. Not revolution in the streets, but resolution in heart.

So many of us are agitated, unclear - which is no basis for resolving anything. And one will not be moved to get clear until the pain is great enough, and the distractions and escapes no longer function. And if you haven’t noticed, this is exactly, inexorably what is happening.

May I suggest shutting up? That’s the antidote. Now and then just calm down
and be still. And don’t give me this “I can’t! I’m a man or woman of action!” b.s.
Everyone acts. That’s automatic. It’s the quiet mind most have not yet mastered,
even though stillness is also natural. And because of this, we fall outward into the
trance/belief “I am a separate individual gumby person inserted into a gumby
universe of gumby things.” Thus humans mostly behave in self-interest, self-
becoming, self-promotion and self-defense, which in the context of the whole is violence itself.

Humans think - a lot - and fall for a lot of it, get entangled and identified
with it, one’s own own kool-aid, BS, what have you. I may believe what Hedges thinks, what Rush thinks, what you think, which all now becomes what I think and I still, while surely clinging to this belief-baggage, know nothing. And by “know” I mean deeply, cleanly KNOW, not mere intellectual conclusions or emotion-charged notions.

Many have Ph.D’s yet don’t have a clue who or what they really, truly are nor what is going on. Lots of ideas, lots of confusion, no resolution. The acquisitive mind, filed with memories, knows less than a mind emptied.

But clearly, calmly knowing is possible, and soon will be recognized as utterly
necessary for our own sustainability, individually and collectively. It starts
inside. Then act with courage and resolution.

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By Loren Bliss, June 1, 2010 at 2:06 pm Link to this comment
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Finally Mr. Hedges is saying to his large audience what I have been saying to my tiny readership for years, most recently via my blog: http://lorenbliss.typepad.com/loren-bliss-outside-agitators-notebook. (See especially “Capitalism, Corporate Personhood And The Politics of Moral Imbecility.”) Perhaps now we will begin recognizing the true extent of our powerlessness—the vital first step in regaining our liberty.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 1:56 pm Link to this comment

By Glagla-Klungly, June 1 at 5:39 pm #

My friend, i am anti-Stalin, anti-USSR, anti-Pol Pot, and anti-dictatorships.  USSR, North Korea, Pol Pot, were not socialist systems.  The only true socialist systems in this world were The Paris Commune, and the short lived Bolshevik Government.

A real socialist should behave like Jesus Christ and real socialist government should be a humanist, christian philantropic government, where the citizens and workers of the nation are the rulers of the nation and the owners of the wealth of the nation thru the system of nationalization of Multinational Corporations under workers’ control

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm Link to this comment

HERE ARE 4 GREAT LINKS WITH ARTICLES AND AUDIO-SPEECHES ON MP3, AS TOOLS TO OVERTHROW THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM !!

“Knowledge is half the battle.” -G.I Joe

http://www.brianwillson.com <—This is a link by a Vietnam War Veteran and intellectual who woke up from the american way of life (AWOL) and the Matrix of lies of capitalist media

http://www.takeoverworld.info/parenti_talks.html <—Go to this link to download speeches on MP3s by Dr. Michael Parenti about the real truth of US founding Fathers, US History and US Imperialism and that in 1776 USA was founded by oligarchs and bankers as an oligarchic-empire and not as a beacon of liberty, freedom and social egalitarian democracy as people are taught in schools

http://resistancemp3.org.uk/ <—This link is great, its full with audio speeches by great thinkers such as Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Michael More, Tariq Ali, Tony Cliff, etc.

http://www.bobavakian.net <—this is another MUST full of audio speeches on MP3 by Bob Avakian, the leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party digging out hard truths about our Jeffersonian Empire

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By Glagla-Klungly, June 1, 2010 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

You peoples are little bits crazy with da comunist business,that guy tenesse socialit must be loony to think that lenon and his friend that come the gerorgia make the good lives for the russia people.Iask you tennese guy how many people be kiilled by that stupid system,but them again i think you smart so maybe you dont have same idea no.one more tink why peoples they call that guy obama comunist when
actual black rusian very few and not popelar very mush.but you see the china people like more that guy mao then the one who run too the other islend not far from china houseland.

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By ofersince72, June 1 at 4:02 pm

” All our discussions on TD will be laughable soon,
we are going to be in Sinclair’s Jungle, the writing
has been on the wall, our discussions are our own
self-guilt. ”

Great reference ofersince72! Unfortunately not many know of Sinclair’s “The Jungle.”

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By jenny gray, June 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment
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OK so. I want to know how many of you are out in the streets with your signs ?  I’m going once a week now. This week I think my sign will read: Kick out the Corps. So really. How many here are in the streets ?

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By Money is funny, June 1, 2010 at 12:53 pm Link to this comment

I went hiking yesterday and found lost pieces of our constitution. They were
stolen by raccoons and moved all the way to a cave in California. It says that
everyone who works is entitled to quality housing, healthcare, plus time for family
and or play. It will be known as moneyisfunnyism.

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By Leefeller, June 1, 2010 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment

Yeah, I will pass on your message to the Mormons next time the bang on me door, they have seem to have gotten tired of me handing them Watch Towers and old Playboy magazines!

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment

WE NEED A UNITED SOCIALIST FRONT WITH CHRIS HEDGES, CINDY SHEEHAN, CINTHYA MCKINNEY, BRIAN MOORE (FROM THE SOCIALIST PARTY OF USA), ALAN MAASS FROM SOCIALISTWORKER.ORG, BILL VAN AUKEN, NOAM CHOMSKY, JAMES PETRAS, DENNIS KUCINICH AND MANY OTHER SOCIALIST AMERICANS

It is time for all USA leftists and progressive to get together into a large United-Front


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By ofersince72, June 1, 2010 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

Once again, the Prole

hits the head of the nail square on !!!!

Debs still holds the record for recieving more votes
for president inside prison walls than anyone else.

Nobody wants to break that record !!!!!

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By Leefeller, June 1, 2010 at 12:31 pm Link to this comment

ofersince72 Self guilt? This may be a problem for offersince 72 and some others, but I am going to become a self indulged Republican a fantasy world were self guilt does not exist, all one need do is hit themselves in the head with a hammer!

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By prole, June 1, 2010 at 12:19 pm Link to this comment

“If we do not stop being afraid and name our enemy we will continue toward a state of neofeudalism”…ironically, that may be just the necessary pre-condition for a re-ascent to some more elevated form of long overdue socialism. Marxist theory has always held a belief in linear progress from one stage of development to the next, from feudalism to capitalism, through various stages of socialism. The historical inevitability of this steady march can no longer be taken for granted, it requires much more active political impetus through organizing and militating for change. However, one of the problems in America for socialist activism, as Marx and others have observed, is its very different historical development from Europe, where the language of communism has had much greater resonance and continues to exert great appeal, even after the breakup of the USSR. There never were any feudal institutions in America, or any hereditary aristocracy, and the course of American political development never had to overcome these entrenched forces. Notions of clear class distinctions and class warfare which came directly out of the European experience, were largely absent from American political discourse. Only later, did various immigrant groups import these concepts to America in the late nineteenth century, but they never took very deep root. The American socialist tradition is not insignificant, but it’s been more in keeping with ‘ethical socialism’ or Christian socialism than the Marxian ‘scientific’ variety. The high water mark of American socialism with the largest mass appeal was in the first half of the last century, as embodied in such magnetic figures as Eugene Debs and Norman Thomas, who were able to speak socialism to mainstream America in a way that Emma Goldman or Gus Hall never could. Debs especially, was considered very dangerous, not because he advocated violent revolution, but because he was so effective at winning votes and inspiring mass movements. That great abiding liberal icon, Woodrow Wilson imprisoned the unflinching Debs under the infamous Sedition Act of 1918.
  “National cohesion, because our intellectual life has become so impoverished, revolves around the empty pursuits of mass culture, brands, consumption, status..”, but it also revolves around the enduring myth that America is a classless society and anyone can succeed through individual effort regardless of lowly origins. “The liberal class prefers comfort to confrontation. It will not challenge the decaying structures of the corporate state. It is intolerant within its ranks of those who do. It clings pathetically to the carcass of the Obama presidency”…which in many ways is in the mold of the liberal warrior Wilson presidency. “We must find our way back to the old radicals, to the discredited Marxists, socialists and anarchists, including Dwight Macdonald and Dorothy Day”…and maybe too, to bootstrap socialists like the self-educated Debs. “Language is our first step toward salvation”…but the language of intellectuals like Macdonald and Howe, for all its eloquence, doesn’t connect with the workers like Debs did. “We cannot fight what we cannot describe”...and we cannot describe what we have not experienced.

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By ofersince72, June 1, 2010 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment

All our discussions on TD will be laughable soon,

we are going to be in Sinclair’s Jungle, the writing
has been on the wall, our discussions are our own
self-guilt.

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By nemesis2010, June 1, 2010 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

By rfidler, May 31 at 11:28 pm

”You blame corporations for too many of our ills.

I don’t agree. And if you really read what I say you’d soon come to the conclusion that where I ultimately lay the “blame” for our ills is on Homo sapiens and our refusal to recognize who and what we are. The corporation is a man-made entity. Corporations in and of themselves can do nothing. It’s the human functionaries within the framework of the corporation that are the problem with corporations.

By rfidler, May 31 at 11:28 pm

”As for our manufacturing base- we make more steel now than we did in 1970. Look it up. Of course we employ far less workers in doing it, but that’s productivity (and the failure of the USW) for you.”

Okay we make more steel. That’s your answer to our being able to maintain a decent employment rate, livable wage, etc.? That’s not an answer.

Here’s what you were asked:

1.) How do you propose to maintain a consumerist debt economy with fewer consumers?

2.) And what products would you have us—the U.S. —produce?

3.) Are you aware that almost the entirety of our manufacturing base has been shipped to other countries?

4.) Where do you propose we obtain the capital to rebuild our no longer existent, or if you prefer, decimated, manufacturing base?

5.) Where will we get the energy to power the plants?

The End of Suburbia
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1565781220895046117&hl=en#

6.) How low a pay scale would Americans have to accept in order to compete against countries like China and India on the world market?

You said that you prefer to keep your comments short. Answer the questions 1 or 2 at a time.

World population is an estimated 6.8 billion. The continental U.S. landmass has a maximum carrying capacity of 300 million and we’re at 325 million.

7.) What is your solution to viable employment for such huge numbers?

8.) How much more can our fragile environment take?


9.) If we can’t provide employment for everyone, or at least maintain unemployment at about a true 5%, what the hell are we going to do about the mass of humanity unable to earn a living?

10.) How do they eat, obtain shelter, clothing, etc. if they are unable to find employment?

Anyone with answers please feel free to jump in!

”Things that can’t go on forever, don’t.”—Herbert Stein, (Chairman of Economic Advisors to Nixon)

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By nemesis2010, June 1, 2010 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

By Fat Freddy, June 1 at 9:16 am

”Which corporations are evil? Which corporations are too big? Which corporations are greedy?”

All of them!

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By nemesis2010, June 1, 2010 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

By Anna Nomad, June 1 at 7:27 am

”No cause for alarm, friends.  We’re just experiencing a brief period of self-correction.  As soon as humans are eliminated, equilibrium will be restored and all will be well.  Until then, why not quell your apprehension with a refreshing beverage or two?  Be of good cheer!”

Ahhhhhh… at last… sanity!

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

ISRA-HELL DID 9/11.  AND ISRA-HELL SHOULD PAY FOR THE MASS-MURDER OF 9/11

http://www.davidduke.com/general/israeli-terrorism-and-sept-11_13.html

How Israeli terrorism and American treason caused the September 11 Attacks

By David Duke
National President
European-American Unity and Rights Organization (EURO)

Read in Russian

If Osama bin Laden is the man behind the attack that caused the death of thousands of Americans on September 11, I, like most Americans want to him to suffer the ultimate punishment for his crime. No person or nation that commits terrorism against America should escape punishment.

But now I am going to make a statement that may well shock you. If you agree that those who commit terrorist acts against America should be punished, then America should put Israel at the top of our hit list; for in this article, I will prove that Israel has committed deliberate acts of murderous terrorism and treachery against America.

Israel’s acts of terrorism and treachery against America have not only gone unpunished, but have been rewarded by politicians who have treasonously betrayed the United States.

Read David Duke’s previous articles:
The Big Lie – The true reason behind the attack

Will Anyone Dare to Ask Why?

I will show that Israel has committed more continuing terrorism in the last half century than any other nation on earth. Then, I will expose Israel’s terrorism and treachery against the United States of America. Finally, I will show the shocking facts proving that Israel deliberately sought the death of thousands of Americans on September 11.

Why was America attacked?

No one would argue that whatever his motivations, if bin Laden was behind the horror of the WTC attacks, he deserves punishment for killing so many innocent people. At the same time, it is vital that we know why bin Laden and millions of others around the world have come to hate America. Why are so many willing to risk or even sacrifice their lives to get at us? I certainly hope no one reading this is so naïve as to believe that the growing millions who hate America do so because we are “free.”; That canard has to be the most ridiculous notion ever sold to the American people since the pet rock.

To end the threat of terrorism against the American people, we must know the true reason why we are so hated. Modern technology makes mass murder and terrorism so ridiculously easy that just about anyone can do it. It cannot be stopped by military might. In fact, even the brute force we are using in Afghanistan supposedly to wipe out terror — already shows signs of whipping up enough world-wide hatred against America to give rise to a thousand new terrorists for every one terrorist we might kill.

I also wonder what the kill ratio is in Afghanistan. Perhaps 1 member of the al-Qaida network is killed for every 10 run-of-the-mill Afghan soldiers and civilians who are basically just trying to get through their own lives like the rest of us. Or maybe it’s 1 terrorist for a 100 Afghanis. I suspect the real figure is more like a 1000 non-terrorists dead for the life of 1 genuine terrorist who might ever bother America.

Perhaps we should have enough courage to consider the possible reasons why so many might hate us. Only when we have all the facts, rather than cute little clichés like “They were attacking freedom,” can we decide the best way we can protect our people in the future.

By the way, how do we define an “attack on American freedom?” I would say that a real “attack on freedom” is trashing the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States. The Ten Amendments are the very core of what American freedom actually is. George Bush and the U.S. Congress, armed with the newspeak U.S.A. Patriot Act, did infinitely more to take away our Constitutional freedoms than bin Laden ever could.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

We are doomed and fucked in USA, Israel will continue to get money from our pockets, Sarah Palin will win in 2012, and she will give more money to Israel than to Puerto Rico, Hawai and americans. Jump out of the Titanic USA ship before it sinks us all to the bottom !!

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 9:52 am Link to this comment

Tennessee-Socialist

Here’s a good use for your “caps lock” button:

http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful_stuff/billy_mays_caps_lock/

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By Redwein, June 1, 2010 at 9:47 am Link to this comment

An exacting critique of liberalism’s defense of the decaying Capitalist system but I disagree with Hedges here: “It does not mean we have to agree with Karl Marx, who advocated violence and whose worship of the state as a utopian mechanism led to another form of enslavement of the working class…..”

It’s different to acknowledge the need for violence in specific cases than to advocate violence, and I’d say Marx acknowledged its periodic necessity rather than advocated its use.  Same as with Malcolm X, whose “by any means necessary” is often misread to mean an advocacy of violence rather than a recognition of its availability.

I also am not sure if “the state as a utopian mechanism” was Marx’s vision so much as the state as a dynamic and continually evolving structure, in other words a manifestation continuously reflecting dialectical processes, and one which is defined from the bottom up rather than from the top down.  So to say that his worship of this mechanism “led to another form of enslavement of the working class” is to attribute to Marx more responsibility for historical debasements of Communism, e.g., Stalinism, than he deserves.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 9:43 am Link to this comment

Ugly truth: The US Founders were oligarchs

I have an ugly painful truth for many people who don’t know this very ugly and very painful reality and truth. That painful truth is that the US Founding Fathers were not democratic-egalitarian liberators, but corporate oligarchs and fascists, who even killed native american indians. And who installed in 1776, a banking oligarchic plutocratic military empire in favor of the oligarchic-class with an oligarchic constitution.


Here are 4 great links to wake up from the american way of life (AWOL) and very dark truthsabout US founders:

http://www.brianwillson.com <—This is a link by a Vietnam War Veteran and intellectual who woke up from the american way of life (AWOL) and the Matrix of lies of capitalist media

http://www.takeoverworld.info/parenti_talks.html <—Go to this link to download speeches on MP3s by Dr. Michael Parenti about the real truth of US founding Fathers, US History and US Imperialism and that in 1776 USA was founded by oligarchs and bankers as an oligarchic-empire and not as a beacon of liberty, freedom and social egalitarian democracy as people are taught in schools

http://resistancemp3.org.uk/ <—This link is great, its full with audio speeches by great thinkers such as Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Michael More, Tariq Ali, Tony Cliff, etc.

http://www.bobavakian.net <—this is another MUST full of audio speeches on MP3 by Bob Avakian, the leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party digging out hard truths about our Jeffersonian Empire

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 9:36 am Link to this comment

OH BY THE WAY I FORGOT THIS: LIBERALISM AND CONSERVATISM ARE THE SAME SHIT !! I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING LIBERALS DO THIS AND CONSERVATIVES DO THAT !!

WHAT USA NEEDS IS SOCIALISTS, AND SOCIALISM, NOT PROGRESSIVE-LIBERALS !!

LIBERALS ARE CAPITALISTS JUST LIKE BUSH, AYN RAND AND DICK CHENEY !!

IT IS TIME FOR A SOCIALIST PARTY IN USA, NOT A LIBERAL PARTY


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By JDmysticDJ, June 1, 2010 at 9:08 am Link to this comment

Fat (Cat) Freddy

You ask LostHills,

Which corporations are evil? Which corporations are too big? Which corporations are greedy? Can you make me a list?

“The Fortune 1000” would be all inclusive.

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 9:05 am Link to this comment

I really wish liberals would get off of this “social injustice” crap. The largest cause of redistribution of wealth in this country, and most of the world, is the result of poor monetary policy. Perpetual, creeping inflation is a fallacy. Keynes was wrong, and his models were flawed. But liberals keep listening to idiots like Krugman, and politicians keep believing Bernanke and Geithner know what they are doing. Keynesianism is a false hope that somehow by increasing the money and credit supply, somehow, employment will be increased without any negative effects to the overall economy, like price inflation. Full employment is a myth. Just like deflation is a myth. If you don’t trust completely free markets, fine, but at least pursue a sound monetary policy which encourages savings and investment in real production instead of one that encourages debt, consumption, and investment in worthless paper.

If you do nothing else, please read these two papers on economics. they are written so a lay person can understand them:

http://mises.org/daily/1254

http://mises.org/books/inflation_primer_palyi.pdf

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 9:04 am Link to this comment

THE MIDDLE-CLASS IS ANTI CHANGE

THE MIDDLE CLASSES ARE THE MAIN ENEMY OF ANY SOCIALIST-REVOLUTION !!

http://www.marxists.org/archive/kun-bela/1918/05/04.htm

“The internal enemy” of the proletarian Russian Revolution is constituted first and foremost by the lower middle classes. The expropriation of the expropriators being carried out at present does not represent the most serious obstacle in the path of proletarian dictatorship. In the path of the expropriation of capital the obstacles are of a purely objective nature. The small group of large capitalists has not the masses on its side, and therefore speedily becomes powerless in face of the armed proletariat. The lower middle classes of society, on the other hand, represent a considerable section of the population, especially in Russia—to say nothing of the propertied section of the peasantry. To reckon with the wishes of these lower middle classes would mean the halting half-way of the work of the Revolution: it would mean an end of the aspirations towards the destruction of capitalism.

Exactly because the lower middle-class mass is numerically large, it has retained an influence over the working-class movement. But every concession to this influence represents a departure from the Marxian standpoint, because it was precisely Marx who freed Socialism from lower middle-class adulterations.

The behaviour of the middle-class Socialist parties during the opening encounters and the final decisive struggle of the proletarian revolution doubly imposes on us the duty of recalling, on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of our first teacher, what his views were on the subject of the lower middle classes. And, though the representatives of various shades of lower middle-class Socialism are constantly referring to Marx, in reality there is no greater sacrilege than this.

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After the revolution alike in Marx’s philosophical world-concept and in his views on the material conditions of social production, he shook himself free of the last vestiges of Liberalism.

“The Poverty of Philosophy,” from the economic aspect, and “The Communist Manifesto,” from the political aspect herald the final liberation of Socialism from the last lower middle-class swaddling clothes.

The founders of scientific Socialism had not had as yet the experience of a revolution, but by the path of theoretical analysis they had even then succeeded in establishing the fact that, in the progress of the revolutionary movement, the dower middle-class can display itself only as a reactionary and Utopian factor.

This lower middle-class—as “The Communist Manifesto” proclaims—“stands half-way between the proletariat and the capitalist class. Being a necessary complement of capitalist society, this class is constantly being reborn.” Composed of extremely mixed elements of the pre-capitalist epoch—the so-called “toiling intelligentsia,” the lackeys of the capitalist class—this class was to be found, in France, in Switzerland, and to a certain extent in Germany, at the advanced posts of the revolution of 1848. According to “The Communist Manifesto,” the Communists were to support the various party groupings of these elements, while the latter were in opposition, understanding clearly, however, that if the representatives of the lower middle-class were really revolutionary in sentiment, it was only when faced with their immediate descent into the ranks of the proletariat.

These hopes of the lower middle-class, little sanguine though they were, nevertheless were completely shattered. The revolution of 1848 clearly revealed the political bankruptcy of the revolutionary section of the bourgeoisie. That revolution laid bare not only their weakness, but also how dangerous they were to the work of the revolution.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 8:57 am Link to this comment

TO ALL: READ THIS LONG THESIS AND ARTICLE ABOUT WHO ARE ENEMIES ARE, AND WHO ARE OUR FRIENDS IN THIS WAR AGAINST CAPITALISM !! (READ THE ARTICLE, IT’S LONG BUT IT’S WORTH TAKING YOUR TIME TO READ IT)

Go to this link and read this article or print it if you want and share it with your family and friends who are beating the bullets economically and are confused about the solution for the USA. it’s about who our friends are and who are our real enemies in this world-crisis against the global-elites, New World Order or Imperialist capitalist rulers (However u wanna call it), it’s a real great weapon for our anti-corporate revolution

http://www.frso.org/about/5congress/class.htm

Class in the U.S. and Our Strategy for Revolution

(The following document is a portion of the political program of Freedom Road Socialist Organization. It was adopted at our 5th Congress. Other parts of the program are still in the process of development.)

To change society and end oppression, we need a plan to get from where we are now to liberation - a strategy that will work. Any successful revolutionary strategy must address the fundamental issue of who are our friends and who are our enemies and explain how we will go about uniting all who can be united to end the existing order of things.

We live in an era where capitalism has reached its final stage: monopoly capitalism, also known as imperialism. Monopoly capitalism is a doomed system whose continued existence stands in the way of all social progress. Huge corporations and financial institutions are headed by a wealthy oligarchy that dominates the political and economic life of this country, blocking the path to prosperity for the vast majority. U.S. companies are closing down factories here and exporting capital around the globe, to the detriment of all but themselves.

Our ruling class (the big capitalists and their hangers-on) has built an empire that spans the earth. Like vampires, they stand at the apex of a parasitic system that makes its home on Wall Street and sucks the blood of the Main Streets in the cities of the U.S. and villages of the developing world. They live on the labor, land and natural resources of others. Neither distance nor decency is a barrier to their drive to achieve the highest possible rate of profit. The world has been divided up between the big capitalist powers, which will stop at nothing to expand their spheres of influence and control.

Within our borders the monopoly capitalists have accumulated untold wealth based on the exploitation of the multinational working class and the systematic discrimination and robbery that is visited upon the oppressed nationalities.

We need to turn things upside down. This means revolution, a radical break that advances the cause of the exploited, that employs, in the words of Malcolm X, any means necessary. Working and oppressed peoples need political power. This power is the means to reorganize society in our own interests and dictate our terms to all who stand in the way. The seizure of power by the working class and its allies is the beginning of a great change, a transformation that continues until the end of all classes and all oppression.

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By Tennessee-Socialist, June 1, 2010 at 8:52 am Link to this comment

CHRIS HEDGES SAID THAT KARL MARX WORSHIPPED THE STATE. THIS IS WRONG, THE STATE ITSELF IS NEUTRAL.  KARL MARX, LENIN, TROTSKY, ROSA LUXEMBURG’S GOALS WERE A “DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIAT”

THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR USA IS A WORKERS-DICTATORSHIP !! BUT WHY USING THE WORD “DICTATORSHIP” BECAUSE ALL STATES ARE DICTATORSHIPS OF ONE OPPRESSOR-CLASS VS. AND OPPRESSED-CLASS.  SO IN THE WORKERS-DICTATORSHIP THE WORKING-CLASS WILL OPPRESS THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN RICH CLASS (BUSINESS OWNERS, BANKERS, CEOS, AND WEALTHY PEOPLE)

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch04.htm


a)  the dictatorship of the proletariat as the instrument of the proletarian revolution;

b)  the dictatorship of the proletariat as the rule of the proletariat over the bourgeoisie;

c)  Soviet power as the state form of the dictatorship of the proletariat,

1) The dictatorship of the proletariat as the instrument of the proletarian revolution. The question of the proletarian dictatorship is above all a question of the main content of the proletarian revolution. The proletarian revolution, its movement, its sweep and its achievements acquire flesh and blood only through the dictatorship of the proletariat. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the instrument of the proletarian revolution, its organ, its most important mainstay, brought into being for the purpose of, firstly, crushing the resistance of the overthrown exploiters and consolidating the achievements of the proletarian revolution, and secondly, carrying the revolution to the complete victory of socialism. The revolution can defeat the bourgeoisie, can overthrow its power, even without the dictatorship of the proletariat. But the revolution will be unable to crush the resistance of the bourgeoisie, to maintain its victory and to push forward to the final victory of socialism unless, at a certain stage in its development, it creates a special organ in the form of the dictatorship of the proletariat as its principle mainstay.

“The fundamental question of every revolution is the question of power” (Lenin). Does this mean that all that is required is to assume power, to seize it? No, it does not. The seizure of power is only the beginning. For many reasons, the bourgeoisie that is overthrown in one country remains for a long time stronger than the proletariat which has overthrown it. Therefore, the whole point is to retain power, to consolidate it, to make it invincible. What is needed to attain this? To attain this it is necessary to carry out at least three main tasks that confront the dictatorship of the proletariat “on the morrow” of victory:

a) to break the resistance of the landlords and capitalists who have been overthrown and expropriated by the revolution, to liquidate every attempt on their part to restore the power of capital;

b) to organise construction in such a way as to rally all the working people around the proletariat, and to carry on this work along the lines of preparing for the elimination, the abolition of classes;

c) to arm the revolution, to organise the army of the revolution for the struggle against foreign enemies, for the struggle against imperialism.

The dictatorship of the proletariat is needed to carry out, to fulfill these tasks.


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By JDmysticDJ, June 1, 2010 at 8:33 am Link to this comment

rfidler

Do you have any more meaningless statistics to offer?

A more meaningful statistic would be the one about negative job creation over the last decade.

Or, how about the one about the upward redistribution of wealth over the last 30 years.

Or, how about the net loss in income for working people over the last decade.

Another would be the one about the increased productivity of the American worker.

Your apparent glee regarding the loss of jobs for the United Steel Workers exposes you as being a just another heartless Capitalist ideologue.

Hedges advises using the dialogue of communists. How about this, “Workers of the World Unite.” Or if you’re more comfortable with the dialogue of plutocrats, I’ll say that, if the “Great unwashed”  do come together, you and your plutocrat heroes will be “Taking a bath.”

“Modern progressives” are engaged in the exercise of promoting social and economic justice.

I sometimes wax nostalgic. In the “Good old days,” people like you would be tarred, feathered, and run out of town. Of course I’m being overly flamboyant with my disgust, in your case, a simple shunning would be sufficient.

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By hen/egg, June 1, 2010 at 7:57 am Link to this comment
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“It beckons to them because of what they are but it
will not allow them, at least within its sphere of
articulation…” Howe (see above text)

” To be call’d into a huge sphere and not to be seen
to move in’t are the holes where eyes should be,
which pitifully disaster the cheeks.” Shakespeare

(Translation) “Being in a position of preeminence but
unable to dominate or exert influence is like having
holes in the place of eyes, which would give a
hideous appearance to the cheeks.” (Notes)

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 7:32 am Link to this comment

Hulk2008

Of course, every system has its flaws. The question is, should people be more free or less free to own property and enter into private contract? Should some be “more free” than others? Humanity is best served when people are allowed to make decisions that serve their own goals and interests, but only when they are held responsible for their mistakes. We have a huge entitlement mentality problem in this country, which spans the entire political and economic spectrum. Everybody seems to be debating who the government should give to, instead of debating whether or not the government should give to anybody. Everything the government has to give, has been taken from somebody else through coercion.

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 7:05 am Link to this comment

TKC,

It’s been a while since I read it but, that sounds like something from the Unabomber Manifesto.

“Industrial Society and Its Future”

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future

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By Hulk2008, June 1, 2010 at 7:01 am Link to this comment

Every “ism” has its flaws be it communism or capitalism.  These are mere HUMAN devices for survival and de facto doomed for eventual failure by their own imperfactions.  Even the early christian church (aka Marx’s “opiate of the people”) dabbled in communal activities.  As pointed out by an earlier post, Marx had excellent partial observations of human activity - his “dialectical materialism” spiel was dead on.  But note the emphasis on “partial”.

So all those who proclaim capitalism as the be-all and end-all have merely sipped the Korporate Kool-Aid - the belief that “free” markets solve all.  ANY simplistic approach will simply fail. 

Behavioral science shows us that repeated human trial-and-failure mixed approaches always turn out better results than purist means.  Unfortunately, the trials and errors take many centuries to perfect results - and humanity continues to suffer in the malaise.

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By Fat Freddy, June 1, 2010 at 5:16 am Link to this comment

LostHills,

Didn’t mean to jump on you, but that was a bit of a bonehead comment. But seriously, where do you draw the line? Which corporations are evil? Which corporations are too big? Which corporations are greedy? Can you make me a list? My point was that it was entrepreneurial capitalists that built this country, not the monopolistic corporations. Workers are workers. They go to work to perform a specific task and get paid. It’s an honest days pay for an honest days work. What’s wrong with that? The problem I see, is that many people simply hate their jobs. They sit in their little cubicles, day after day, and dream of the day they turn 62 1/2 so they can retire. It’s a trap. So, workers rebel. But to what end? Freedom? The fact is, that the “owners” of these corporations don’t even make the decisions on how the company is run. They elect board members to run the company for them. Board members are simply employees of the company. If the Board does not get the desired results for the shareholders, they are voted out. If you want a vote, buy stock in the company. I was reading an article by Mike Gravel. He was a labor/management negotiator. For years he tried to convince the unions to take stock options in lieu of salary and benefits, and the unions flat out refused. Why?

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By Anna Nomad, June 1, 2010 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

No cause for alarm, friends.  We’re just experiencing a brief period of self-correction.  As soon as humans are eliminated, equilibrium will be restored and all will be well.  Until then, why not quell your apprehension with a refreshing beverage or two?  Be of good cheer!

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By Leefeller, June 1, 2010 at 1:47 am Link to this comment

Big business via corporations has proved to be worthy of being people too, according to the surmising court.! Now a small business is not quite people, well they are when it comes to following the rules, but unlike the big boys, the small guy doesn’t have the legions of K street lobbying to make rules to advantage.

Regulations for big business seems somewhat of a joke. Looking the other way and asking what they want seems to be the order of the day, regulations are not regulations at all, but some kind of token trade off of going through the motions. 

So we see the bale out, the the mine accident and now the BP oil accident, I do not know about you, but accidents are warnings. Well how many warnings does it take to catch on, maybe the number is irrelevant? Seems everyone of these accidents has been under the un-watchful eye on the back of the dollar bill.

Money talks the talk, just changes the walk seems simplistic?

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By Ralph Kramden, June 1, 2010 at 1:33 am Link to this comment
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Great article. The only time one hears about class warfare is when the ruling class attacks the working class. There is no working class in this country, we are all “middle class,” we have been gentrified to death. No class consciousness whatever, that is why working class people, union members even, vote Republican and shop at Walmart. Suicidal idiots. Maybe we should start by teaching the history of the labor movement. Most of these ignoramuses think that the eight-hour day, overtime, week-ends, sick pay, holiday pay, and on and on, came from the goodness of Henry Ford’s heart. Let’s start a labor news segment on the daily news. Marx is by far the most insightful,sophisticated,brilliant critic of capitalism and the working class will ignore him at their own peril.

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By bookmark dofollow, June 1, 2010 at 12:06 am Link to this comment

I don’t really know how strong our country is right now. Growth is minimal, we’re at war, we’re diplomatically retarded, and for the first time, young workers are making less than their parents. I don’t think this is the fault of capitalism, but of very poor legislation and leadership.

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By Money is funny, May 31, 2010 at 11:43 pm Link to this comment

I like this article because it points out that free speech was never really present or acknowledged in recent American history.

It is the fear of human expression that leads to oppression I’d say. “I am one of this, and you are one of that” serves as a useful purpose to marketing groups, think tanks etc.

I would like to opt out of your calculations please.

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By ofersince72, May 31, 2010 at 10:05 pm Link to this comment

Cris, we all know how we got here, most of us guilty as
hell, how do we get out?
I belive RAE’s solution is about the only fix at this
point, quit participating as much as you possibly can.
Throw your cell phones away, turn the sat. off.
burn only gasoline that it takes for survival, ect.

We have no other outlet, and it is the ecology stupid.

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By Gianmarco, May 31, 2010 at 9:36 pm Link to this comment

You’ve got to be joking. How many were killed under Stalin? Mao? 80 million? You
want to live under the surveillance state of East Germany? You want the press
freedoms of China? Who financed the founding of the Soviet Union? Western
Bankers and capitalists.

You want freedom? End the Federal Reserve.

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By dcampbell, May 31, 2010 at 9:09 pm Link to this comment

Well written. The socialist Left is trying to adapt these important ideas to the
current situation. The Left should recognize that distrust of the government is
legitimate because on economic issues the government too often represents
the oligarchy.  However, when the anger is only focused on the government,
and not also on Wall Street and corporate America, then clearly the group has
been misled.  If the anger targets racial and ethnic group, or at immigrants, 
then they do not understand global economics nor solidarity- and quite likely
they are being used.  Our task is to develop an effective anger and resistance
from the left.
The Tea Party Activists and their Republican funders promote conflicts over
issues of immigration,  teachers’ unions, public workers pensions, and big
government as substitutes for the critical economic problems.  These false
choices work, they mobilize, because they seem to offer an explanation – albeit
a false one- to the very real economic pain of working people.  Our task is to
point out that the U.S. and eventually world wide financial crisis was caused by
the greed and the theft of a few very rich operatives.  The oligarchy caused
the unemployment ( not immigrants), the economic losses, the off shoring of
production jobs,  the cuts in services to the poor, to families,  and to the
unemployed.

What are the policy alternatives?
As Johnson and Kwak argue in 13 Bankers,  we must break up the largest 6
banks in the nation and pass legislation preventing them from re-establishing
control or we will lose our democracy.  There will be no need for future bank
bailouts when we prevent banks from becoming too big to fail. In the Senate, 
neither the Brown-Kaufman bill nor the Merkly-Levin bill were allowed to come
to a vote.  The compromise bill negotiated with Republicans   doesn’t end “too
big to fail” banks and it doesn’t create a Glass-Steagall style firewall between
commercial and investment banking.
Second, we must regulate the banks.  Wall Street should not be allowed to rule
and to ruin our country again as they did in 2007-2009. To achieve finance
reform we need to return some democracy to our political system.  It is out of
balance.  For the last thirty years we have witnessed class war in our economy
and the rich have won.  The economy is dominated by the oligarchy and they
used their power to gain control of the government and to extract profits, bail
outs and bonuses from working people.  To become an opposition the Left has
to make the case for economic policies that serve the interests of working
people – such as extended unemployment benefits, new investments in
schools, teachers,  and health care.

The Left must develop a new consistent, comprehensible narrative to explain
how the economic system is not working for the great majority.  It is only
working for the rich and powerful.  Such a narrative would explain to working
families the economic reality and the destruction which they are seeing
around them.  And, the left narrative must be connected to a strategy for
change.  We can join in this task with Richard Trumka of the AFL-CIO and
other segments of the labor movement in the effort to Make Wall Street Pay and
to take back our government.  WE can use the slogan they have popularized –
take back our government -and turn the slogan into a positive.  It is really us
v. them.  But, it is not Black v. White v. Latino.  It is the rich v. working
families.  Yes, we can take back our government if we decide that it is our
country and our government and we won’t let them steal it – again.
In the Gulf- it is clear that BP is responsible and should be made to pay.
Similarly, Wall Street is responsible for the economic crash, and the crisis in the
states is growing.
Obama is not a socialist. But, we are.
http://www.dsausa.org

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By Robert B., May 31, 2010 at 8:37 pm Link to this comment
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I agree with Chris—we do need more communists. It is not because I want them
to come to power, exactly, but without real opposition on the left, of which there
is really none today, our country continues to drift in the wrong direction. It is like
trying to walk by only taking a right step—to get anywhere there needs to be
balance. The communist party delivered for the american worker—they started
many unions and fought for decent wages and working conditions. Without the
communists, there would have been a diminished middle class between the ‘40s
and 1980. The demise of the real left in the US dovetails nicely with the decline of
the middle class,  public education and social mobility.  It is not a coincidence.

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By Misfiteye, May 31, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

A forest you say?  Certainly not.  No, of course it’s not a forest.  Look closer.  They’re only trees.

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By Vassily, May 31, 2010 at 8:02 pm Link to this comment
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Fat Freddy is the only one who gets it. Chris Hedges what’s wrong with you? I
used to read your aticles for their common sense and honesty. Here you sound
like a communist agitator. How come until now you keep refering CAPITALISM
rather than CORPORATISM. Don’t you know the difference, sir? And now you
think Communists are going to bring an honest debate to the occasion. I grew
up in Communist Russia. Let me assure you that you have no idea on what will
happen to you once your “honest communists” will appear on this land. As an
intellectual you’ll become persona non grata in no time, most likely you and the
rest of the thinking people of this country will be executed. The “honesty”
you’ll get will be in a form of gulag camps and various extermination technics.
You’ll dream of George Bush years as “freedom years”. Even your title is
offensive. I think your hatred towards Wall Street and Fascistic take over of our
government is turning you into the commie camp. You’ve got to know that
there’s almost no difference between communism and fascism. One is national
socialism the other one is international socialsm. I will never ever read your
artciles and I urge all freedom loving Americans to cherish the real free
capitalsm, constitution and bill of rights, fight the big government and protect
private property. This land called United States of America is the best country
on Earth with the good the bad and the ugly. Last thing you want here are any
sort of communists!!!

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By Endruj Hoxha, May 31, 2010 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment
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You are calling Marx “utopian” without even knowing what he was talking about the state! You are saying the “liberal class” turned into corporate hacks, well I would like to see any point in history when they weren’t!

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By rico, suave, May 31, 2010 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

nemesis:
For the record, I think Rush is a shallow clown. I prefer Andrew Wilkow.

If Goldman fails for not doing its job, good. I’m not married to the Goldman paradigm. I agree that losers should fail and winners should be rewarded, and any system that stands in the way of that simple Darwinian principle distorts the market and limits freedom.

You blame corporations for too many of our ills.

As for our manufacturing base- we make more steel now than we did in 1970. Look it up. Of course we employ far less workers in doing it, but that’s productivity (and the failure of the USW) for you.

As for the Galbraith quote, what exercise is the modern progressive engaged in?

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