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The Silent Cleric Who Holds the Key to Iran’s FuturePosted on Dec 29, 2009
By Robert Fisk Editor’s note: This article was originally printed in The Independent. We like to believe—and newspapers and television like us to believe—that the battle for Iran is being fought on the streets of Tehran, of Isfahan, of Najafabad. Untrue. The future of the nation is being decided in Qom, among the clerical leaders of Iranian Shia Islam; and one of the most influential of them—perhaps the closest of all the ayatollahs to President Ahmadinejad—is silent. Just why Mohammed Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi, a member of the Assembly of Experts—the clerics who choose the “Supreme Leader” of Iran—should refrain from comment at such a critical and violent period of the Islamic Republic’s history is unclear. But we can be sure that he remains in constant contact with the president whose dubious re-election provoked the street demonstrations, killings, and subsequent judicial tortures and deaths in Iran. Advertisement For him, the death last weekend of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri was a relief, as it was for many of the conservative clerics who long feared the man’s influence over the reformist opposition in Iran. Montazeri’s passing—far from being an eternal torch for future reformers—is a tragedy for those who wanted to create a more humane, civil society in the country. Yet not even on this death would Mesbah-Yazdi speak. The two biggest men left in Montazeri’s shadow—Mir Hossein Mousavi and ex-president Mohammad Khatami—are now in greater danger than ever. The brutal suppression on the streets of Tehran over the weekend only emphasised the determination of the conservatives to crush their opponents. If these two men were detained—and Mr Mousavi’s nephew was shot dead on Sunday—then the final lethal struggle for the Republic’s soul would be dramatic indeed. And if Ali Khamenei fails in his duty as Supreme Leader then who might step into the shoes of the Leader himself? Many in Iran suspect that this is the very position to which Mesbah-Yazdi aspires. True, he only controls a small ultra-conservative faction in the local assembly. But Iranian politics do not run on the supposedly Western principle of majority rule. Back in June, Mesbah-Yazdi told Revolutionary Guards that they need not be worried by the political “earthquakes” that had occurred since the election. “Know that God created this world as a test,” he said. “The Supreme Leader holds a great many of the blessings God has given us, and at a time of such uncertainties our eyes must turn to him.” That is how Mesbah-Yazdi would like to run Iran. To understand Qom, think Tudor England. New and Improved CommentsIf you have trouble leaving a comment, review this help page. Still having problems? Let us know. If you find yourself moderated, take a moment to review our comment policy. |
By race_to_the_bottom, January 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment
People who want to understand Iran should read the Iranian press. Imagine foreigners trying to understand the US without ever seeing the NY times, Washington Post or any other US media.
The Iranian press says the MKO (look it up) was involved in provoking violence. Certainly plausible. They say a small number incited violence, burning cars and shops; that dozens of police officers were injured, that they never fired on the crowds, that Mr. Mousavi was not in the demonstrations and was killed in a drive by elsewhere. True? I don’t know, but we need to know what they say, just as we need to know what the lying MSM in the US says to clearly understand the political landscape here.
Who benefits from the violence in the streets in Iran? It is unlikely that most citizens there taking their grievances to the streets attack the police and incite violence. It is also unlikely that the authorities would present the west with a free propaganda show by gratuitously attacking peaceful people. These people are not stupid.
Such displays only benefit those who are preparing the political landscape for war against Iran.
Report thisBy tropicgirl, December 30, 2009 at 8:55 am Link to this comment
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I’m tired of hearing about Iran. I can’t help thinking that everyone is spinning
the events whatever way they want to and no one really understands it. And,
most importantly, people really need to learn how to mind their own business.
And I, for one, hope Mousavi is in great danger. He’s a jerk, an opportunist, a
CIA “player”. And he has caused a great deal of trouble, even deaths. I am
surprised this man is still walking around free. He’s into himself, offering
exactly what to the Iranian people? Closer ties to the west that wants to
strangle them? He has nothing anyone needs as far as I can see.
Let’s talk about the real problems in THIS country. If the so-called gatekeepers
haven’t noticed, we have a government that is now ONE GIANT PONZI SCHEME,
totally unable to reform itself in any way.
We have no prospects of jobs, since the stimulus money went to offshoring and
outsourcing whatever jobs were left (look it up). And even if the US invented
the most green, most miracle, most fantastic product, we would still not be
allowed to make it.
Lets put the shotgun down, get off the porch, take a bath, say a prayer and
Report thisgrow up and face the real world, please, like adults. This article is babypuke.
By brewerstroupe, December 30, 2009 at 12:54 am Link to this comment
I cannot work out where Fisk is coming from these days. He has done great and courageous work for much of his career but these two most recent pieces (the Anne Frank brain-fart and this one) reveal muddled analysis coupled with a lack of political understanding.
I am wading through his “The Great War for Civilization - The Conquest of the Middle East” which is also somewhat inconsistent. I am beginning to wonder if, despite his intellectual grasp of the rights and wrongs of Western Colonialist enterprise in the Middle East, he retains a colonial prejudice against all things Islam. This would fit with pink gins on his balcony in Beirut in the company of cronies who lament the passing of European dominance in the region and the rise of self-determination by the native population. I have seen this type of thing before - well meaning “Sahibs” who who support self-determination and are disappointed when the result does not conform to a Western ideal.
Much of what is criticized in the Iranian political system is specifically designed to avert the kind of dominance by financial interests that has so perverted the political process in the West. Fisk seems unaware of this and it is heartening to see posts here by folk who do comprehend that fact.
Then again it might simply be be too many pink gins on his balcony.
Report thisBy DieDaily, December 29, 2009 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment
TAO Walker, you’re right, but Fisk knows very well what he’s doing. He’s not being used. He’s an operative, always has been, always will be, and he lies, lies, lies.
His little colour-revolution heroes have atrocious human rights records and are notorious tools of the west, especially as providers of terror-on-demand whenever we need an excuse to bomb someone, fund some black-ops boondoggle, or take away some more civil rights.
First, the bloody-handed Mousavi that Fisk used to pretend was the most dangerous of enemies:
http://dprogram.net/2009/06/23/mousavi-was-the-butcher-of-beirut/
Hossein Ali Montazeri:
http://www.vdare.com/roberts/090617_iran.htm
Montazeri’s only goal is the loss of Iranian sovereignty so he can cash out from his western handlers and sell his country into a proxy tool for use by the west against China and Russia.
Listen up: everyone IN Iran knows that Ahmadinejad is an underling with little or no power. Nobody IN Iran would ever “protest Ahmadinejad”. They would LAUGH at the idea. It would be like protesting Obama—there is no point in protesting someone who is several layers removed from the actual decision makers. Whenever you see rallies against Ahmadinejad it’s strictly for Western consumption. Little clue here too: “Where is My Vote?” painted on demonstrators signs? Tisk, tisk, Fisk; your readership is dumb but could they ever really buy into Iranians marching with ENGLISH signs? OMG.
So, bearing in mind that in Iran the Presidency is a token position, I hope everyone can see that when Fisk says incredibly stupid things like “and one of the most influential of them—perhaps the closest of all the ayatollahs to President Ahmadinejad—is silent” you know he’s just being the total stool-tool that he always has been. It actually PROVES it, if you’ll think things over for a minute. Because Fisk himself is well aware that ImaDinnerJacket is just that…the external trappings of power with near-zero influence. His role was ostensibly to take heat for the clerics, but it stopped working a long time ago. He’s now just their crier.
Even Khamenei, Ahmadinejad’s immediate superior, who has somewhat more power but not that much, can be replaced by the governing counsel of clerics. Even he is not only NOT a dictator, but nor has he even the power to be one if he wanted to try. The real power is all behind the scenes in the hands of the clerics, like here in the US except the clerics are international financiers and industrialists. Get it?
When reading Fisk, you have to know what his aims are. He’s not even pro-USA except when London’s and the US’s aims happen to overlap, as they do with Iran (for now). His economic prognostications, for example, are all geared at restoring the financial hegemony of the London banks at the expense of US interests (it’s always been that way) thus you see his doom and gloom articles about dollar devaluation “just around the corner”, etc. In the matter of Iran he’s only taking the US stance because the alternative is to let Russia and/or China gain the upper hand over the combined Western hegemony.
Report thisBy TAO Walker, December 29, 2009 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
Is the subject of this piece being set-up to be “boogie-man du jour” one of these days? Having habituated theamericanpeople to expect some arch-villain at the center of whatever “threat” is being touted as requiring massive military “intervention,” it sure looks to this Old Savage like Mr. Mesbah-Yadzi is being tailored here, by the militarists in both national-security-state terrorist regimes, to fit the role whenever the Zionist tail decides to “wag” the americandog against Iran.
Robert Fisk may or may not know he is being used here, by ruthless interests unCONcerned about the CONsequences of their machinations on the milling herds of homo domesticus trapped in the “global” feedlot. He may even feel, as so many in his still relatively comfortable place in the privateering pyramid scheme seem to, that he is safe from the widespread disintegration already affecting the vast majority of his fella ‘n’ gal captive Humans.
Either way, though, he’s in for a rude awakening one of these Days.
HokaHey!
Report thisBy jameszy, December 29, 2009 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment
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Surprisingly thin article by Mr. Fisk. I suppose a similar approach could be
Report thisapplied to the good ole U.S. of A. Only substitute Wall Street for Qom. And that
would be an appropriate analogy because in the U.S., money is God. Wall Street
actually represents our ‘spiritual’ center of gravity… Sad, but so true! That said, in the
short run Mr. Fisk might be spot on, but in the long run, if their is a long run, I
would expect Iran to re-form into a more liberal political stance.
By Free in Tahiti, December 29, 2009 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
Iran, Iran, Iran…
Fisk definitely has some good points…
but you know this omnipresent fixation on Iran….
as a preamble to illegal and unprovoked war on Iran…
Iran…
you know, yet another CIA colored revolution to effect regime change… for israel’s benefit, another one of its paranoid schemes…
“amerika’s got to do it, we can’t let israel do it, lest their reputation suffer” - dixit NYT on Xmas eve, no less, you know peace on earth and stuff… I kid you not… (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/opinion/24kuperman.html)
and yet, not a word on Political assassinations by the US puppet in Honduras by the truckload to this day, after an oreobama orchestrated coup in june, I mean wake up and call a spade a spade. Total radio silence on all msm and western media. and yet…
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/23460
So you’ll excuse me if I don’t get too worked up on the next zionist-R-US we need to overturn Iran plot.
To be perfectly honnest I hope the Iranians soon have a credible nuke and intercontinental delivery system, do you think US and israel might just cool it a bit then?
could we then have… peace? even if M.A.D
how many countries has Iran invaded, occupied and ramsacked lately… how many civilians has it slaughtered with white phosphorous?
whatever this Iraninan thing has evolved into, nobody can deny that, at the onset, it had dirty western intellingence agencies’ fingerprints all over it.
but in our msm universe we get caught up in the swirl of it all…
What? msm don’t lie?
it doesn’t do anything but!
i.e. latest 1984 “war is peace” example:
Report this“Copenhagen was a great success” (oreobama, sarkonazi , brown, etc.. dixit and repeated all msm, US, Europe) when it is clear it was a total disaster! (ask third world!) proof enough for you or have you given up on paying attention?
By Cy, December 29, 2009 at 4:09 pm Link to this comment
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The future of Iran will be decided by the people of Iran, and the struggle is a titanic struggle involving the full spectrum of Iranian society. Qum by no means is the main decidind factor. Other forces in society are far mor important. In fact, Qum is almost irrelevant since the clergy has almost completely lost it’s independence since the revolution. Virtually all the clerics are too afraid or too corrupt to do anything consequential and the population knows this.
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