You know, what really appears scary me is not only the stupidity of the Republicans, but those who ignore it in order to continue chasing their tails.

Any moron should know, if by chance they selected a third party president, it would make the party of no look like a happy face.

I still see Republicans in Drag and not only their knuckles.

Poor drbhelthi, who has no insight.  It is clear to whom I am
speaking.  You exist in a constant state of ignorant attention. 
Sorry, there are no shoes that will ever fit your feet and you will
simply have to go barefoot for the rest of your life.

@shenonymous

Certainly, each has the opportunity to enter a comment, but It would also tend
to clarify your ideas, if you would stop talking to yourself.
” It’s all right to attack me, your sting has no torque to it.  Just watch your
penchant for namecalling.  Any indulgence would reveal the latent sick mind
that is always lurking..”

Gee, She, it seems I am far from alone in despising intently focused democratic loyalists far too willing to descend into insult while begging for none in return:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/when_we_fight_back_20111124/

Shenonymous, November 24 at 9:56 am

I am encouraging of your efforts as they are ever more futile and silly. Keep it up ,please.

I’m not the fraud, it is the Greens who cannot get anyone elected to
significant offices beyond a few local politicians, mainly because of
the impotence of the supporters of the Greens who cannot appeal
to local voters.  How about at least a governorship? 

Democrats have been impeded by the money poured into Republican
election coffers by such as the Koch Brothers, and ALEX.  It’s all right
to attack me, your sting has no torque to it.  Just watch your penchant
for namecalling.  Any indulgence would reveal the latent sick mind that
is always lurking..

Shenonymous, November 23 at 9:44 am

Your “sentiments” regarding third party politics are simply a fraud, as is most of your denials of the worthlessness of your own political party. As is, by the by, your fevered predictions of disaster should yet another republican administration come to power.

You prattle that “if only the Greens would work locally” when that is exactly what their strategy does, over one hundreds candidates currently, at local and state levels. What a fraud you are.

As a loyal democrat you cannot stand to see a potential weakening of the two party system, one that would come at the expense of your own right of center party, yet the facts remain that republicans, whether in the minority or majority, have been and continue to be, in charge!

That you descend to sophomoric accusations that anyone standing in refutation of your position must, perforce, be a republican in drag is another in a series of reasons why your posts almost always suck.

@examinator
“Do you really want to continue I’ve got plenty more facts?”

Do I want to continue?
After having carefully read your blog, I am still awaiting one fact. Your ilky opinions are no more valid and no more factual than the ilky, non-factual opinions of any other person.  Nor, can your written thought debacle be classified as “fact.”

Your mental schism reflects your twisted value system, clearly presented in your comments.  Nor do your comments reflect an acquaintance with U.S. history since the end of WWII.  Foreigners who want to migrate to the U.S. are fantasizing on the reputation the U.S. had prior to the GHWBushSr entourage.  I have several as acquaintances, who are as ill-informed as you are prejudicial. 

It is interesting to occasionally spot a 1 percenter mixed in with the 99 percenters typically found among Truthdiggers, but you can be spotted.  It is interesting that an intelligent idea is occasionally mixed in with your comments, usually a bit twisted, however.  Similar to your general comments, which are not based on verifiable sources, but rather on your desire to influence others with your abortive thoughts.  Which, is also very obvious.

Shenonymous, November 23 at 9:44 am

You and I agree absolutely on this issue.

Voting Green is a worthless endeavor, just consider their last Presidential nominee.

But I will also say Cynthia would be better than any of the Republican Party corrupted/corruptible people in their current fashion show.

Consider the Republican Ad showing Obama making a statement, that was snipped from a speech of his where he was repeating a statement by McCain.  The Republican Ad maker removed the reference to McCain, editing it to created a falsehood that it was Obama making a statement concerning his own belief.  And make no mistake about it, those Republican people who placed this Ad knew damn well when they constructed it that what they were presenting as a factual statement by Obama was nothing other than a straightforward lie.

Daily Republican BS.  The Criminal Party.

Have any of you ever read my statement that “I Will Never Vote for a Republican Candidate Again”?

Voting Republican is akin to buying rope for them to hang you with.  Republican Government is rule by Corporations.  They say it daily, they prove it every 4 year cycle, and still some of you vote for them.

Vote anything but Republican.

I don’t plan to vote for Obama either.  He had his chance and blew it - big time.

I am looking for a Coalition of Independents.  This is what is needed.  And there are some groups out there trying to get a grassroots organization some viability.

Just because I do not see and accept things as others choose dost not mean I am right, but when possible I prefer to advocate, if something is broke to fix it, or in the case of some people here they would throw it away into the trash heap, for the unproven something new.

Far as the eye can sea, we have a corrupt system, it is broke and needs fixing, OWS has forced a change of the dialog a narrative for the better, a foundation for change, I do not see OWS throwing the whole thing into the trash.

Instant gratification appears to me as the main culprit for those myopic individuals who have the GWBush syndrome, “you are with me or against me”

No, neither, I would much rather attempt to fix it, I prefer to work out the problems, I do not believe Obama is the same as the Republicans, Gaddafi or Saddam Husein, far as it seems to me Congress is the problem and the Supremos, not Obama, and a large portion of the populism who embrace the knuckle dragging bought and sold agenda sponsored by the Republicans.

I see many here as Republicans in Drag!  (Not you OM)

Seriously if anyone on these threads thinks a Republican takeover
of the White House would not be catastrophic then it is clear a
distracting Republican shill is in our midst.  Vote for them is one’s
prerogative, but I will do everything within my power to see they are
defeated in every election possible.  The Republican Party is the Party
Against the People. 

I have already given my sentiments several times on third-party
efforts.  The only candidate acceptable to me who is not a registered
Democrat is Bernie Sanders.  Get more third-party candidates elected at
the local level, then at the state or Congress level, then see if they can
appeal to more than 50% of the voters.  It will be a cold day in hell before
that happens in my estimation.  But do keep trying oh you pollyanas.  A
refusal to answer this observation is a pathetic denial of the truth.

I think that is a misperception, but entertaining for a moment it is true, both ways are not without pain, but better to die a slow death where some intervention is
possible, than the sharply and brutally assisted immediate suicide, falling into an abyss from which there is absolutely no way out for millions of Americans if a Republican wins.  It is a choice, albeit one that will not be without pain whatever path is chosen.  The Republican one is final, but with Democrats there is retained a ray of hope.

Seriously She? Your advocacy for a “slow death” seems to indicate a heretofore absent pessimism of the hope for the party you so vehemently tout. Your over the top warning of an apocalyptic catastrophe should the GOP triumph makes me see you carrying that sign ” Repent The end is near “, while wearing sackcloth and ashes.

Might I dare remind that republicans have triumphed again and again, in this cyclic merry go round of a sick democracy, as have the democrats as well. Regardless, the race to the bottom continues,  no matter which of the duopoly has whatever numbers in office.

One might consider the four year national election cycle and the term of office of our legislators as a “way out”, but only if the electorate can see through the silliness of your position as stated and understand that voting for either Tweedledee or Tweedledum is futility, not a harbinger of doom.

Vote Green.

Examinator

I must assume you think I did not research something in those posts I put up or read the Al-Jazerra Link you provided.  I followed your link as requested and I just touched on the ALEC intrusion into our Government.  If you haven’t read about ALEC you will miss the point entirely. 

You might have realized that I am saying that our Government does not intend to do anything for the Non elite ( the 1%) unless there is profit in it for themselves.  Therefore only profitable things for the 1% ,the Elite, are done - whether it is beneficial for the public or harmful to the public is of no consequence, the deciding factor is will it profit the 1%.

You have heard of people-possibly you, who after being wronged by someone, and emerged better than their previous position, be told that so-in-so did a good thing for them, because of the outcome.  However so-in-so never intended for their action to be good for the person.  In my thinking just because the outcome happened to be good for the wronged person, does not mean that that the initiator of the action meant to do good, and therefore so-in-so never actually did a “Good” thing.

Would you please make a small list of those current elected Government officials who did something “Good” for the average American Citizen that profited that elected person not?

As to your quote, it is true that the Bell, when it tolls , does toll for all mankind, and that examinator brings me again to my point:

The 1% does not believe that the 99% are fully mankind, rather, they look upon the Non Elite as the hubris of the world, and that when the Bell does toll, it couldn’t be tolling for those who are not worthy.

Mr Carson,
I suspect we are in part, talking at cross purposes.
There is absolutely no doubt that both parties are sub optimum. As I said I am implacably opposed to the party system.

I am saying that while neither party is looking after the 99% in terms of distribution of wealth equably. I’d even agree that the system (government, legal, accounting) is far too weighted in the favour of the corporation.

BUT that isn’t the only or even (in perspective) the most important point of comparison.
You appear to be negating/ignoring the other policies and wins for the people that have been achieved.
The article I referred you to and in fact this article highlighted several differences between the two parties (inadequate they may be).
As I have said in most of my posts one way or the other wanton ignorance…..over simplicity is the provenance of the inept or the maniacally devious.
I include wanton ignorance in the latter category.
as I original said it is by definition antidemocratic!
What the western cultural mind set forgets is “that there is no such a thing as a free lunch”. i.e. any freedom comes with a price(responsibility.
By definition and by math democracy can only exist if EVERYONE engaged,that means to the best of their ability.  Partisanship and selective involvement particularly when it’s based on self interest are the two most pernicious affronts to the continued existence of society and democracy.
Judging by your writing I don’t believe that you aren’t capable of better research and analysis….it’s your apparent lack of effort (research and thought) that concerns me.
John Dun in the 1500’s made what I consider the one truth the west and sadly America has forgotten, when he said

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as a manor of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man’s death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.” 
Think about it.

examinator, November 22 at 4:22 pm said:

“sorry sir but your argument is suspect. It a bit like say that you have either Hansen’s Disease or malignant Lung cancer (both are nasty) then deciding to do nothing about it.
PS one is curable the other isn’t.
Read the subtext then you tell me which you’d prefer for your country.”

I had presented a lengthy argument that both Parties were nothing but agents for the Financial Concerns- Corporations and presented the History of ALEC, a Republican Dominated Front Group that brag that they present 1000 Corporation written Bills each year since Reagan, with over 20% passed into law. and I followed it up with “To me the only visible difference between the two is that the Republicans publicly proclaim to be for the 1%, and go ahead and prove it, while the Democrats claim to be for the 99% and go on to prove they are not.”

Now if you are saying that the argument is suspect, would you please identify what about the argument is suspect?

As to whether I endorse the “no vote” idea, I don’t and time and again said I didn’t. I advocate and have often said , that we need to get rid of the Two Headed Washington Monster, neither Party stands for the rights of the 99%.  So it is especially clear, if I have to choose either the Democrat or Republican Party, I would choose the Democrat for obvious reasons that I had already stated.

I am not sure what you mean by “argument is suspect”.

Jon Huntsman is the only sane, intelligent candidate the
Rebumblicans have to offer—so naturally, they’re
ignoring him.  So, of course, is the press since he makes
sense, doesn’t embarrass himself or say spray-worthy
things. 

We don’t have a left-leaning or right-leaning MSM, we have
an MSM that is concerned about ratings and NOTHING else.

drbhelthi,

There is a difference between having an “objectively” arrived at conclusion than an opinion. 
Might I say that the achievements of Obama are many if you actually look beyond the jingoistic nonsense of the MSM’s proclivity for lots of lights and movement and precious little substance or that of the rank (you choose the nuance)mindless ravings of the wantonly ignorant. I distinguish between the above and those who are the chronically disadvantaged either by circumstances (lack there of) and those of limited intellectual ability.
It is human nature to automatically seek self interest or some form of group identity. However those tendencies are those we share with the lessor primates as is defecating where they stand. My point to you is simple Just because it’s natural doesn’t mean we should blindly stick to either practice.
The notion that everyone wants to come to America because of a click ad on the government site is utterly preposterous and clear evidence of the retrogressive wanton ignorance that miss spawned it.
Most of America’s immigration issues are direct result of it’s collective arrogance and abominable foreign policy.
To wit The Drug wars in Mexico fuelled by Americans. In specific those who the God fearing, myopic, self obsessed rump choose to exclude with in its borders.

Many of whom are multi generation Americans.
It is truly a pity that your ilk are so ignorant as to who are actually consuming the ‘recreational drugs’ and why! Your lot are the prime problem creators. Look at who are the heaviest smokers, consumers of alcohol , and “junk food”. All of which necessitate a social welfare and enormous health system…obesity, heart disease, diabetes, organ failures, brain damage, general violence, vehicle accidents all because of abuses.The facts are that most of the preventable abuse related medical needs are from this strata of society. Do you really want to go into a detail analysis of why or how corporations have been allowed to go to the current dysfunctional ends.
Just ponder the above medical fact them consider the stats as to who are their best customers.
 
Finally, I wonder why we need to prevent the cream of the world’s skills from migrating here! Which is by the way the target audience for the offending ad. not the desperate, poor peon who simply wants what every human wants….to live in peace and raise their family.
And while I’m on the subject your mind set’s arrogance assumes (incorrectly) that all these people if given a reasonable standard wouldn’t rather be home in their own country. And that my poorly arguing commentator is implacably wrong. For starters minus the American demand and armourer inspired drug wars.
seems to me to be more than a little self abusive.

Do you really want to continue I’ve got plenty more facts?

Cliff Carson
sorry sir but your argument is suspect. It a bit like say that you have either Hansen’s Disease or malignant Lung cancer (both are nasty) then deciding to do nothing about it.
PS one is curable the other isn’t.
Read the subtext then you tell me which you’d prefer for your country.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/2011112271316280749.html

{i]”in your constant refutations of ?ideas of others.”  You will provide a
few dates and times for these refutations, or I would think you are
reacting viscerally and not empirically, drbehelthi, meaning with from
a surfeit of hot air.

Unlike some here, I know of what I speak, my opinions are set in stone for they are the foundation of my house of cards. 

I do not find the Republican candidates scary, for they believe in the trickle down theory one reason why I voted for Regan the greatest president that almost lived. Though I am still and checking my mail box every day, but now we have one more log blocking the road, we must give a tax break to the wealthy so my trickle down will reach me before me demise, all I need to do is dust of the cobwebs.

Music to me ears, when a Republicans announce with consistent cloned verboten tones, ‘our only goal is to make Obama a one term president’, even better is seeing so many alleged non Republicans sounding more like Reptilians than Repulsions for me a cause for jubilation, because I know the trickle down exists and will be here soon.  But first it must warm up by gutting Social Security, Medicare, and heaven for bid the sin of all sins, collective bargaining for those socialists unions out there.  We must get those Red States back on track, I know what!....Some of you say its a ploy, well I like ploys, send some of your trickle down money to help out Wisconsin Walker another person who is no difference from a Democrat!

@Shenonymous
“This is not, however, typical of your own usual pontifications.”

Read closer, and the links.
My statements are based on factual information, even my, as you call them,
“pontifications.”  Your application stretches the meaning a bit, however, as
does your use of ideas and words, generally, in your constant refutations of
ideas of others.  Even when you list valid ideas.

“Likewise, nor you yours on others, which you continuously
attempt to do.”  No I don’t drbehelthi - I give my opinion,
say it is my opinion, and clearly say if you want to agree or not
is entirely up to you.  Since you are 180 degrees away from my
views it is easy to see why you would accuse me of it.  As I’ve
repeatedly said it is entirely up to you what you believe, it is
entirely up to you what you do, you are the responsible agent
for your own self.  Your lamentable circumvented resentment
is showing drbehelthi. 

Besides everybody on Truthdig knows their own opinion is just
that, without any documented evidence it is merely opinion and
there are no broken electronic bones from the coercion of belief. 
Nevertheless, I habitually provide links to evidence for what I say
that are not merely my opinion.  This is not, however, typical of
your own usual pontifications.

@Shenonymous to „Angel Gabriel“

“If you do not want to make the distinctions that are there, that of course is your prerogative but do not think for a second you can impose your opinion on me and hopefully on any other perspicacious thinker on these forums.”

Likewise, nor you yours on others, which you continuously attempt to do.

It does get a bit tiring to repeatedly observe you, and a couple of other bloggers, to “run out in front” of Truthdiggers and say, “follow me, I have all the right answers.”

Where I live, each time I goto Truthdig, the flashing advertisement is present, “Emigrate to the U.S.A.  Get yourself a Green Card, click here.”  Next to it is a picture of the bust of the Statue of Liberty, with part of an American flag beside it, and the silhouette at its base of NYC & the Empire State Building.  This flashing ad is placed there by the current U.S. administration that you so very stupidly, continuously support.  Which, is flooding the U.S. with foreigners, while using SWAT teams to frighten older, respectable, American, home-owned businesses like the Gibson Instrument Company, to cut American jobs and open them in foreign countries. While GE pays no income tax this year.

Dr. Carol Rosin´s appearances in videos clarifies the intent of the WWII NAZI-types that have overtaken the world via their tool, the C.I.A.  Angel Gabriel is also aware of the direction, and perceives that the USA is approaching the point at which, “ - - you are going to want to get out, but the borders will be closed and your internment will begin - - “ which thousands if not millions of us perceive.  But you and many others choose to ignore the warning of former C.I.A. agents who have whistle-blown and placed their lives on the line, some of whom have been assassinated for informing other Americans what has actually happened to the USA and continues to happen, as the plans of NAZI/Zionism are carried out. 

What has the alias “Barack H. Obama” actually accomplished ? 
Whatever the 1% wanted, if agreed to by the Israelis.
Simply, furtherance of the WWII NAZI plans, quarter-backed by HWBushSr and his entourage.  Sending letters of condolence to remaining family members of targets he has had assassinated makes GHWBushSr a “nice man”?  Right.

Republicans are scary ?  Horse manure.  They´re all scary.

“If the Obama wins we will continue to see the ?slow death that
we’ve seen over the past 3 years. If a ?republican wins, who
knows, maybe it will accelerate.”  I think that is a misperception,
but entertaining for a moment it is true, both ways are not without
pain, but better to die a slow death where some intervention is
possible, than the sharply and brutally assisted immediate suicide,
falling into an abyss from which there is absolutely no way out for
millions of Americans if a Republican wins.  It is a choice, albeit one
that will not be without pain whatever path is chosen.  The Republican
one is final, but with Democrats there is retained a ray of hope.

And Angel Gabriel, I think you are categorically and without question
wrong and while I do not want to get into a name calling fest, my liberal
sanity is quite in tact.  You have said nothing that counters what I’ve
said.  If there is a mad nest of snakes it is the nasty and odious nest
conservative Right-Wing Republicans have made which has evolved since
the 1950s having regressed into an authoritarianism of the worst kind,
which predominates their current thinking. They are the stinking
enemies of freedom though they disingenuously scream about freedom. 
It is their peculiar and smelly brand of freedom, the freedom to dominate
the wealth of the nation that is their idea.  They are mean-spirited and
power hungry, decidedly Machiavellian and while some are immoral,
more of them are amoral.  They are as John Dean, one of their own,
lucidly called them, “conservatives without conscience,” who are capable
of and would sooner swiftly deliver this country into the disasters that
have loomed large in our faces since George W. Bush and Dick Cheney,
than lend an ounce of their strength to the health and welfare of the
American people who are in dire need.

If you do not want to make the distinctions that are there, that of course
is your prerogative but do not think for a second you can impose your
opinion on me and hopefully on any other perspicacious thinker on these
forums.

Shenonymous you are nuts if you think people want to get into this mad nest of
snakes! The extreme poverty you see around the globe is a result of your
feeling of exceptionalism and the action of the US Government in foreign policy
decisions to protect American Interests - which comes at the expense of
exterminating cultures who have no interest in playing America’s “me first,
fukyu” game.
Read PNAC and please tell me why anybody with a brain would not be
compulsed to arm-up and defend their homes and countries against you! You
can call them all terrorists if you want, but very soon you’re gonna be one of
them and you will NOT have any place to go to escape yourself!  America has
become the Pariah, the scourge of this planet… and it because you just can’t be
bothered to correct the course toward one of peaceful co-existence, and
appreciate that those poor foreigners out there who are dying at your hands, so
you can aggressively conquer the world in your interests.
If you listen to what the GOP presidential candidates are saying about National
Security you cannot help to see that you (the USA) has set itself up in full
alignment with Israel to be targeted for extermination because of your refusal
to accept peace as a solution to genocide. There is nothing on earth that
America and Israel WON’T do to exploit Cultures to protect what you call your
interests.
Instead of people wanting to get in - soon you are going to want to get out, but
the borders will be closed and your internment will begin, mark my words!
Commenting here certainly means you are not in the 1 % or the government, so
wake up and smell the coffee burning on the stove before it’s too late! More
people DONT WANT YOU or your influences - Myopic view is an American
exclusive thing!

Do we really think the yahoos being trotted out as
possible candidates are meant to be elected?  NO ONE
wants to be in the White House for the immediate coming
years.  If the Obama wins we will continue to see the
slow death that we’ve seen over the past 3 years.  If a
republican wins, who knows, maybe it will accelerate. 
The fact is the economy is in a bad way and it will
take someone willing to buck the system.  I will vote
for a third party candidate.  A wasted vote?  Perhaps. 
But my feeling is, if we all “waste our vote” maybe,
just maybe we’ll see some true change.

Some education in anthropological history is obviously needed.
It is lame to cast aspersions on the Neanderthals who were
peaceful tribes obliterated by confiscating homo sapiens. But if
there are Zombies in America there are ten times walking more
close to being completely dead in all parts of the rest of the world.
Oddly enough, in spite of its sociopolitical warts, the underprivileged
of the world are trying to get a permanent life in America more than
any other place in the world.

“...the antics of the candidates — and the media’s fascination with them — have diverted attention from what the Republicans would do if they win.”
—Bill Boyarsky

Which begs the question:
What’s Obama’s plan for his 2nd term?

Methinks the diverted media attention should be focused back to Jobs and the Economy.
He or She who offers the best chance for improvement there will win in 2012.

Mayhem and Charlie - Charlie, that “fundamental
realignment of power” is right from the mouth of Rove
who has declared it his life’s mission
(struggle/jihad) to make the Democratic Party
irrelevant. I hope, but more than often have my
doubts, that the Dem’s jihad/struggle is to prevent
the realignment of power.

Mayhem, Reading Blueokie I got that he is equally
dismissive/critical/loathing toward the Democrats.  A
cynic believes in the truth of nothing so naturally
has no solutions to correct anything because any
solution would be unbelievable right off the bat.

the less american economy grows, the happier i am. the more
unemployment in u.s [and in the world; as long as there is healthy food
for all] the happier are all the bears and me.

now, i pass to another matter, but always with the readers permission.
i suggest to those people in whom i evoke anger because of what i say
or because of my dull english, not to read ‘my’ [really our] posts:
boyarsky, like hedges and ?all columnists, politicos, posters,
‘educators’ split assunder verbally what cannot be split empirically.
and they do that by splitting 0001 to 1 percent’s [or even 10%‘s]
representatives into republican and democratic parts. tnx

Suggestion from an X-Pat,
Shut it all down and reset the debt, mass default is the only quick way out of
this nightmare called the American Dream. The entire world is on the verge of
revolution and YOU, my fat assed brothers and sisters are asleep at the wheel!
You are driving through the ditch and the Bozo Bus is going to run smack dab
into the Bridge embuttment and kill everybody. how funny is that???
OWS needs a Charter Policy - something to get everyone’s attention very quickly
before the Police around the country start with the Noise Cannons, more Pepper
spraying of the weeds, and head busting devices.
Remember back a few years when the FEMA Camps were built? Well the Vacancy
signs are going up. The Military is already on stand-by and has been re-
positioned around the country (while you all were asleep) and TSA has been in
heavy training for crowd control to assist with internment.
If you don’t have policy you leave yourself open to being labeled as Insurgents.
You go to jail with a busted head. You think you live in a Democracy? Guess
again - you are truly up against a powerful Big Brother who doesn’t give a rats
ass about you! RESET THE DEBT. It’s got to be global, and it has to happen
NOW! If there is one time in your life when you are paying attention - that time
needs to be now! The protests are turning into riots, the riots will turn into
Marshall Law, and Marshall Law will turn into a Military Rule. Couldn’t happen
here?? Yeah right! I figure you’ve got about 3-6 months before the walls come
up and your chance for ANY change that will be positive to rebuild the place
and government before your time runs out… RESET THE DEBT, change the
Taxation structure, and let everyone start from scratch! Peace!

Paul Krugman wrote the other day about a peculiar breed of quasi
technocrats, as they are called by critics of the world, “who to
save the world economy we must topple these dangerous romantics
from their pedestals,” because, “the things they demand on behalf
of their romantic visions are often cruel, involving huge sacrifices
from ordinary workers and families.”  Their visions are driven by
a preponderant preoccupation of dreams about the way they think
things ought to be rather than by a “cool” circumspective judgment
of the way things really are.

It is often the case that “things” do not always work out the way as
planned. And as demand babies we have tantrums about it.  It is true
in some respects Obama has not lived up to what his electors imagined
when they put all of their hopes, and also romantic dreams, into one
man.  He was deified, epitomized as a “savior” all right.  But he also
romantically took on the cape of avenging angel, of an apotheosis, to fix
the world of America that had been ravaged by the irrational George W.
Bush and his brigade led by self-consecrated Dick Cheney who took
America into the devastating doldrums of war that depleted the US
treasury and financial policies that finished it off.  Obama did what was
possible in the face of a Republican dominated House and nearly split
Senate between Dems and Republicans that has done nothing but stultify
and constipate the machinations that would keep this country viable for
Americans and extended into the larger world.  Mainly because rich white
men are fitful at Obama’s presidency.  Obama from the first second he
took office as President was a target and has been writhing ever since.  I
fault him for not being the God we all expected!  For not being the
seasoned supernatural politician we needed then and still need now. 

If there is desperation in the body politic, it is on all sides, who are in
a tug-of-war and on one side are the wealthy corporatocrats who want
to keep their numbers small and bloated with the wealth of the nation,
while the rest of America are on the other side as represented by the
99%ers, the OWSers, not all scratching for a decent life, but tens of
millions are.  It is myopic to call all Democrats soul sellouts. There
are millions of us who are not in the thrall of powerful elites.

Comparatively speaking third partiers are the most desperate in
that they do not have any “track” record for winning candidates. 
They have no one upon whom they could seriously run for offices
of political significance who has any experience at running a huge
national entity such as the United States.  Third-partiers are one
item protest candidates.  They do not perceive the entire complexity
of the presidency. That may have been Obama’s greatest error.  The
last possible third-party possibility was Ralph Nader and even with his
popular ideas he lost.  There is a dearth of plausible candidates and no
one in the channel of a third-party who has a rat’s ass chance of getting
elected in 2012.  Except for Bernie Sanders, the Socialist Democrat
Independent, who in my estimation is the only one with his head on
straight, able to run all the facets of government.  And Bernie knows he
isn’t The Promised Savior. Reality is not in the purview of most, right and
left, who post on these forums.  Funny but Sanders while he is critical of
Obama, still supports him as President.  As a Democrat, and for all and
any reason anyone wants to accuse me of, as a self-appointed liberal,
because I believe in the health and welfare of the people of a nation, this
nation in particular, I will support the Democratic candidate for President
every time.

So I should vote for “Change” again?  Nah.  I’m setting my sights much higher from now on.  I’m hoping there’s a Revolution box on the ticket this year.

I do find a certain desperation in the pleas of democratic loyalists to maintain the status quo by continuing to vote for a party that has proven itself incompetent and irrelevant.

Vote for Obama because Romney is evil. Oh Mr. Pilgrim, how you have fallen.

Vote for Obama because the Supreme Court is at stake. This is the most desperate plea of all, in my opinion. As a dyed in the wool corporatist, Obama has filled his administration with the very villains that are such a consummate part of the problem, why would anyone expect his appointments to vary in yet another futile and fascist leaning term of office?

As someone who grew up in UT amongst some of the scariest conservatives imaginable (the Mormons), watching the Romney phenomena unfold over the last several years isn’t a surprise to me. I’ve been saying for years that American would start looking and acting like one big Utah: an uber-conservative (John Birch inspired), cultural wasteland run by white, privileged “god-father” figures. (why do you think all those smug, white assholes in Congress REALLY hate Obama…....?)

Add to all of this the fact that Mitt’s religion is nothing but a corporation masquerading as a religion. When he talks about values, morals or any other “ideas” he’s thinking about how to profit from them…This is one of the only things I can appreciate about evangelical christians: they can spot a phony “religious guy” a mile away (takes one to know one)...and they’ve always known Mitt is NOT to be trusted.

examinator, November 21 at 10:23 pm

Said:
.....“these are followed closely by the kindergarten logic that maintain both sides are the same a choice of the lessor of two evils! really? Come back when you graduate to the real world…..You tell me when (objectively) that *isn’t* the choice in complex issues.”

I think that both the Republican and Democrat Party has shown that they don’t give a damn about the 99%.
Their only task seems to sell their souls to the 1%.

Their rhetoric is different , but the common citizen gets the same BOHICA ( Bend over here it comes again) from either Party.

To me the only visible difference between the two is that the Republicans publicly proclaim to be for the 1%, and go ahead and prove it, while the Democrats claim to be for the 99% and go on to prove they are not.

I don’t see any way in there for the 99% to win if only the 1% will get the Government to buttress their bottom lines every time. 

So I have to disagree with you examinator, but I’m not sure if you meant they are both bad but one is the worst.  If that is what you mean then I agree that the Party that says they are for the 1% and goes ahead and proves it is really the worst.

Not a bad article,
If one ever wondered what is driving America down hill go no further the answer is in the comments. By that I mean the near total lack of anything that resembles sustained thought or analysis by either side.
these are followed closely by the kindergarten logic that maintain both sides are the same a choice of the lessor of two evils! really? Come back when you graduate to the real world…..You tell me when (objectively) that *isn’t* the choice in complex issues.

Flash! if you think that complex issues have a simplistic right or wrong answer then frankly you need a grown up minder/guardian or a lesson or ten in objective analysis.

As for the notion that they are the same therefore I’m not gonna vote…..way to go Einstein that always works when your shower is broken do you cease having showers too?  if so then you must stink as bad as your logic.
Personally I’d try and fix the problem and that goes for the malaise of the parties.

I’m non aligned and implacably opposed to political party government. However I live in the real world and I try to make the system work to the best of my ability and you? ‘I didn’t get what I wanted so I’m not gonna play’ aww didums
tip the last “saviour” (sic) humanity had we nailed to a vertical cross so that he would die from exposure and suffocation. 

If you can’t see that the two parties are fundamentally different and that the consequences for either *won’t* be the same. So if it goes further down hill you won’t bitch and complain?

The truth is that Democracy doesn’t work if everyone isn’t engaged and involved i.e. does their best to make an informed judgement…one based on objectivity not artificial tribalism. Too Busy? give me a break…too lazy.
More power to the author for at least trying to get the great unwashed to think of something beyond satisfying their own petty wants (as opposed to needs) :-| hmmf

“Lost in all this is an examination of what would
happen to the country if one of these Republican
candidates makes it to the White House, especially
if the GOP retains the House and wins control of the
Senate. Readers and viewers are not getting a clear
explanation of what difference it would make if a
Republican or President Barack Obama wins next
November.”

The EXAMINATION should be the metaphorical history
kind, then. Then multiply by a suitable dimension.

Metaphor wise, I would probably start with the
transition from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan. Many
would definitely not choose that metaphor. And that
is metaphorical as well in that it is a perfect case
of choosing poorly the subject about which one
grandstands.

Call that factor M.

Step 1:
In short the future of the world is the probability
of untold misery if OBama is reelected. So, if E=
end of world, that would be
E=MC (where M = Metaphor appropriate, C = Carter)

Step 2:
To get the probability of the end of civilization if
any one of the “debate” tested Republican idiots
win, then square the OBama probability you got in
step one.
E=MC SQUARED

Mormons think this is a walk in the park. In reality
if a Republican Mormon (def.=MORe MONey) is elected
from the Republican crew a reason exists for the
high probability of a flipflopper.

Some of you have gone through Mormon training or
have bought your way through it.

Either way if you have been around that tribe a
while, you know, or can know if you pay attention at
all that you have become familiar with two features. 

One: all authoritave mandates, including church
tenets, flipflop. (With church tenets, waiting is
often required. Mormonism tends to be more like
Republican characteristics than like Democrat. Id
Est, authoritative. No one does anything without
some pompous control or grandstanding.

TWO: they will observe themselves being without
genuine empathy for anything except a train of
thought that runs along the “YES SIR, MAY I PLEASE
HAVE ANOTHER” gauntlet. I am not saying they are not
incapable of empathy. It is just that the Democrats
have it all, already.

Keep in mind, you should pay attention. Although,
all of Congress looks the same long as you are
looking at their lobbyist deposit side, it is
necessary to be able to employ en passant the Myers
Briggs IQ assessment algorithm, the one with $BS
detection feature. Congresspeople CAN HAVE many
aspects.

And, oh, the article directly. Pretty good, as far
as it goes. Especially,
“It’s easy to laugh at the freak-show race for the
Republican presidential nomination”.

They were never funny—and they’ve been ramping up their level of “scary” for the
past 30 years.  I can’t recall saying “ha ha” when Reagan was elected and
immediately set out to bust unions, vilify public workers, tank educational programs
for college-age students and when he declared ketchup a vegetable.  I’m still not
laughing as I watch the attack on women’s rights, the obstruction in Congress and
the vitriolic rage and shameful disrespect shown to the POTUS.  Ha ha?  No…more
like Ha ha hell.
http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/

“The Republicans Aren’t Funny, They’re Scary”

Republicans are Nucking Futs….

I have little to add other than two thoughts:
1) A Romney Presidency and TeaParty control of both houses might well mean closing down of “dissident trouble-maker” sites like this one.  Remember: Cheney wanted to “post-pone” (ie, cancel) the 2004 elections and Ann Coultergeist advocated shooting to death anyone who opposed Bush’s little caper in Iraq.  The urge to shut down elections and suppress free speech is alive and thriving in the GOP.
2) Ruth Bader Ginzburg will not survive on the USSC for a third term.  Odds I’d give are 90% or better that she leaves.  Would your rather see another Kagan or Alito appointed?  That’s your choice.

All politicians who do not work for the welfare of the people need
to be replaced, which means all Republican politicians and a
contingent of down-the-river-sellout Democrats.  If some third-
party candidates can replace them, then by all means they ought
to.  These would be all local elections since there are few third-
party ideologues running for state level offices. There is not one
who could make a dent in a national election for President except
one, Bernie Sanders, Independent of Vermont.  He is the best choice
at the moment, with Elizabeth Warren in the pipeline who is a Democrat. 
Also notice Dennis Kucinich has not switched parties, he’s also a Democrat. 

In case you need to know:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_republicans_arent_funny_theyre_scary_20111121/ 
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

There are 51 Democratic Party Senators
47 Republican Party Senators
2 Independents – Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman, Sanders usually votes
with the Democrats, Lieberman slimes himself with the Republicans.

In the House there are 193 Democrats, 242 Republicans, 1 vacant seat that
was Jane Harmon, Democrat from California who resigned was won by Janice
Hahn, another Democrat.

Notice there are no third-party affiliated congressmen/women in the House. 
Now that is odd, if third-partiers are as popular as thought by some on this
forum, one could reasonable think there would be at least one!  Since House
congressmen/women are local as per district that is where third-partiers start,
which would include mayors and councilmen, or elected country officials.  So if
you ever want to make it to the White House, third-partiers, better get busy. 

In the meantime, I will work to elect the responsible Democrats, which might
sound like an oxymoron, ‘cause the Republican alternative would be hideous.

Bill Boyarsky stated in his article:

“Elections have consequences. I know that’s a cliché, but it’s a great one, and timely, too.”

Some people on here don’t seem to get it and that includes Boyarsky.  Bill you could have said - “All Elections have consequences.  Some are good, some are bad, and too often than not, those consequences may not have been what the Candidate promised.”

I think too many of the people and most of the Republicans fail to see who the bogey man is.
The Media have a nose ring in the people of America and leads them wherever the Media wants to take them.  The mood these days is that the country is in horrible shape, and the public has failed to remember who got them there.  And the Media is not about to remind them, they will just lead them to drink the Kool-Aid; Reminds me of a famous Albert Einstein quote:

“Men are even more susceptible to suggestion than horses, and each period is dominated by a mood, with the result that most men fail to see the tyrant who rules over them.” —Albert Einstein, Princeton, April 10, 1938.

That Tyrant is a Government that is not elected by the American people, but is the Rich and Powerful who have purchased our elected Government to do their bidding.

May I suggest the Corporations use the Political Party as Front Groups?  Consider one Group - ALEC

From the ALECexposed.org.

ALEC and Corporations

“ALEC is not a lobby; it is not a front group. It is much more powerful than that. Through ALEC, behind closed doors, corporations hand state legislators the changes to the law they desire that directly benefit their bottom line. Along with legislators, corporations have membership in ALEC. Corporations sit on all nine ALEC task forces and vote with legislators to approve “model” bills. They have their own corporate governing board which meets jointly with the legislative board. (ALEC says that corporations do not vote on the board.) Corporations fund almost all of ALEC’s operations. Participating legislators, overwhelmingly conservative Republicans, then bring those Corporate written bills home and introduce them in statehouses across the land as their own brilliant ideas and important public policy innovations—without disclosing that corporations crafted and voted on the bills. ALEC boasts that it has over 1,000 of these bills introduced by legislative members every year, with one in every five of them enacted into law. ALEC describes itself as a “unique,” “unparalleled” and “unmatched” organization. It might be right. It is as if a state legislature had been reconstituted, yet corporations had pushed the people out the door. Learn more at ALECexposed.org.”

ALEC was organized by Republicans during the Reagan Administration, so if their bragging that they introduce 1,000 bills co-written by Corporations every year and succeed in passing about 20% of them is fact, then that means that 200 Corporate written bills have passed into law every year since Reagan.  If my math doesn’t fail me, that means that over 4,000 laws co-written by Corporations are now on the books and are enforced by the Judicial Branch.  Somehow I don’t feel those laws are putting the rights of the people first.  What would be your guess?

So when you seem to feel that every year you loose more rights - you are not wrong.  It has been an on-going process and if not stopped, ultimately there will be no need for elections because we will be living under and serving a Corporatocracy instead of what the Constitution promised. A decades long flow of rights from people to Corporations has helped provide a mass transfer of wealth from the people 99% to the elite, the 1%.  This is a big part of the problem.  But only a part.  They are the Special Interest who own the Republican and Democrat Party - and therefore you and me.

Like the headline. It would have been more “cricket” to headline BB’s
commentary “American Politicians are becoming sillier and sillier” thereby
giving the voter the ultimate choice of “bumb and dumber”.

Enjoy the bird les enfants.

Yawn - yet another “Danger, Will Robinson:  Republicans!!!” pot-boiler.  The “Democrats, good - Republicans, bad!” theme (at least at the national level) lost much of its sheen mid-way through the last decade as so many Democrats (albeit with varying degrees of enthusiasm) supported so many of the Bush II atrocities, and the party’s repeated attempts to substitute a “Democrats may not be all that attractive. but Republicans are even worse!” mantra since mid-2004 are also getting rather stale now.

I’m a lot more concerned with the make-up of the next Congress than with who’s in the White House, myself.  In fact, given how unacceptably Obama performed when he had strong majorities in both houses of Congress, I’m inclined to hope that we wind up with a Democratic Congress and Romney in the White House.

Romney will, of course, say anything to try to get elected (was Obama really all that different in this regard, or just more polished at it?), but he’s basically a middle-of-the-road Republican at heart who could likely work pretty well with a Democratic Congress - and that Congress would be a lot less likely to let him move the country to the right than was the case with Obama in 2009 - 2010.

Rejecting Obama for his abject failure even to TRY to achieve the ‘change we can believe in’ and ‘an end to business as usual’ upon which he campaigned so vigorously seems to me like the right message to send to Washington.  And simultaneously electing a Democratic Congress to make it clear that the Republican agenda isn’t acceptable either is not only another very good message to send but insurance against continuation of the kind of governance we’ve enjoyed since 2009 (with all the incessant bleating that “We WANT to do all sorts of good things, but those darn Republicans - even when in the minority - just won’t LET us”).

Of course, those of us who believe that the situation will continue to deteriorate under Democratic governance (just as it did in 2009-2010) aren’t even that much more scared of the possibility that both the While House and Congress will go Republican in 2013.  Though that doesn’t seem likely to me, it would convey a strong message to the national Democratic party about just how unacceptable their wishy-washy “Say one thing but do another” corporate-driven politics are (not that they wouldn’t try their hardest to misinterpret that message as an indication that they need to move yet farther to the right, since that’s the way they try to interpret EVERY message that they’ve gotten recently).

You’ll be hearing (yet again) a great deal of the “Danger, Will Robinson!” rhetoric from Democrats over the coming year.  Just remember that those uttering it are robots without real, functioning brains (or in other cases are pursuing a self-serving agenda with little regard for the welfare of those they’re preaching to), and try not to become one yourself.

What has happened to the Dem Party and the Rep Party ?
The video at this link explains it all.
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8252175042329977626#

Look around, people, what do we have as leaders ? Who were republicans, once upon a time?

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=8252175042329977626#

SEVEN (7) WAYS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET

1. Corporations have record profits and record cash in the bank and dodge the
real tax rate, reducing the amount they actually pay be about a third the published
corporate rate.

2. The top 1% has rising income levels and the lowest taxes in memory.

3. No taxes are levied on what the hedge funds bring in; they call it ‘carried
interest’ and by doing so escape all taxes.

4. No transaction tax is levied on rapid-fire stock trades that send the market into
wild gyrations and threaten your pension.

5. Capital gains (the way most of the wealthy get their ‘income’) is taxed at 15%.

6. “Tax incentives” for corporations proliferate, reducing taxes for the oil & gas
companies.

7. Trillion-dollar unfunded wars based on lies provide protection for tax
subsidized ‘energy companies’, while our alternative energy industry continues to
fall further behind both Europe and China.

So, there are seven ways to bring our budget into balance without cutting middle
class programs.

If the Republicans wanted a ‘balanced budget’, they should not have passed the
Bush tax cuts for the wealthy when we had a balanced budget and should not have
gone to a war based on lies and refused to pay for it.

If the Republicans wanted a ‘balanced budget’ now, they could easily have one.

A ‘balanced budget’ is not the Republicans’ concern.

This ‘battle’ is about the Republicans’ desire to maintain and accelerate the
transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper 1%.

That’s what this battle is about. And that is why it’s important for House and
Senate Democrats (whether real or nominal, if elected under the Democratic
banner) to hold the line – even for nominally Democratic President Obama.

In many ways who is president does not matter, because the president only proposes policy and programs, but it is up to Congress to pass the laws and regulations and funding that make those policies and programs a reality.  That being said, a president does perhaps the most important thing any one individual can do:  the President offers Americans a vision of a type of future which would be attainable if Congress, WH, and states work together for the benefit of all citizens, not just the 1%.  A truly transformational leader can offer a vision, get people behind it and working to accomplish this.  This is a principle that the GOP and Democrats fail to understand, and why Obama supporters feel so betrayed.

In 2012 we as voters must decided whose vision we will embrace and which party should govern this nation.  But, what if we put America and Americans first in 2012? 

Go to http://www.weeeevoteamerica2012.org and decide if you can run on a platform of 5 principles and programs that support those principles.  Then run for Congress as Independent, Non-Affiliated (INA) candidates.  You will also find links to each state’s requirements to run for office and file as candidates to get on the General Election ballot next year. 

Go to http://www.devonnollforpresident2012.org where I am running for president as an INA.  There are links on both sites to my YouTube video series where I am talking about what I would do, what programs should be implemented and why, and on various issues that are related to the 5 issues that make up the platform. 

You can help raise money for my campaign by purchasing my book with a donation where 20% of the funds will go to feed the poor and on the first site 20% of my royalties will also go to feed the poor.  The book is the complete explanation of a four-year political agenda that will help America using the 5 issues as the foundation. 

Now many of you may think that this is a pitch to sell my book, but make no mistake, if I never sold a single copy I would not care on bit as much as I would if this nation falls under corporate/religious/military fanaticism that is represented by the GOP or the continued cowardice of the Democrats as they pander to the same donors under the leadership of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.  It is time to vote Americans into office for the benefit of America in 2012.  Let this be your mantra for the next year as you run, volunteer, or support INA candidates:

VOTE FOR AMERICA IN 2012!
VOTE FOR AMERICAN JOBS!
VOTE FOR REAL AMERICAN SMALL BUSINESSES IN 2012!
VOTE FOR AMERICAN FAMILY FARMS AND FOOD SECURITY IN 2012!
VOTE FOR AMERICAN FREE QUALITY PUBLIC EDUCATION IN 2012!
VOTE FOR AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE IN 2012!
VOTE FOR AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL IN 2012!
VOTE FOR ONE OF THE 99% OF AMERICANS IN 2012!

Let us make 2012 the year of a new American Revolution, using guerrilla politics under the party radars and show the 1% and their political parties just what a government of, by, and for the American people is really like!  VOTE FOR AMERICA AND HER FUTURE IN 2012!

@ Charlie 1877

Alright Mr. Charlie.

Have a nice life.

Re: Charlie1877

It was YOUR supposition that claimed that politics
didn’t matter. YOU made the claim that it doesn’t
matter who the president is, not me. Explain yourself
and answer the question.

“What is your point of commenting on a
POLITICAL BLOG if according to YOU, politics doesn’t
matter?”

Outraged

Oui, si Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a été le président
américain votre vie serait sans doute sucer. Alors je
reprends ce que J’ai dit. Aucun président américain
aura un impact sur ??votre la vie, afin que jamais

Does that help? btw I love your argument of, please
leave this blog. hahahahah

Seriously what part don’t you understand, Ill help
you.

Re: Charlie1877

I assume you are directing your comment towards moi.

“Yes, if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were the US president
your life would undoubtedly suck. So I take back what
I said. No US president will have any impact on your
life what so ever.”

Have you ever listened to yourself? You make no
coherent sense whatsoever.

Additionally, what is your point of commenting on a
POLITICAL BLOG if according to YOU, politics doesn’t
matter?

Again, you make no coherent sense.  Since you claim
that you cannot type (I’ll take your word for it)
I’ll update my assertion.

Proof, that even an idiot can use a keyboard.

@EmileZ

If everybody focused like a laser bear on themselves
NONE of us would have to worry about any of the other
things you mention. Maybe the neighbor wouldn’t have
had two kids that she couldn’t afford. Maybe people
would spend more time education themselves, after all
we have the total of human knowledge right in front
of us, and is as close to free as possible. I wanted
to live next to a Superfund site, but my wife decided
it wouls not be in our best interest.(Its called Box
Canyon in the West SFV) I suggest the people in those
other country start looking after them selves because
nobody is going to rescue them. And they will be
better for it.

@Angry,Disgruntled Chick

What president changed your life? Or country was set
up so that the president does not have much power.
And in-spite of what your Keynesian ideology may tell
you, the president cannot predict, or control the
economy. He should really stop trying.

We handicapped our government for a reason.

“Government, even in its best state, is but a
necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable
one.” TP

Yes, if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were the US president
your life would undoubtedly suck. So I take back what
I said. No US president will have any impact on your
life what so ever.

If you want a better lot in life it is up to you, and
btw I can’t type. I barley finished high school, if I didn’t have spell check I would write at all.

But I bet I’m doing better that you

@Charlie 1877

There is more to life than focusing like a laser on your own rise to the top of the heap.

“and stop blaming corporations whom have no negative effect on you at all” - you

That is bullshit. Even if you are making out okay, what about your neighboor with cancer two kids and no health insurance? What about your school? What about your conscience? Peace of mind? What about future generations? What about the folks living next to superfund sites (toxic waste)? What about the folks in Gaza? India? Afghanistan? Walmart?

Perhaps I am misreading your comment. I hope that is the case.

“It really doesn’t matter who is President, you life
really depends on you.”

Proof that even an idiot can type.

felicity, or should I say Pollyanna, I have two questions I think your point of view is pertinent on.

1)  Did you pick the right patch to see The Great Pumpkin this year?

2)  Is your belief enough to keep you up all night Christmas Eve to catch a glimpse of Santa?

By the way, Obamanation needs $50 from you, because you matter as much as Goldman-Sachs.  Enjoy your Limo ride to the Liberal Cavalcade!

It really doesn’t matter who is President, you life
really depends on you. I mean really how much has you’re life changed since EVIL, GREEDY, WAR HUNGRY, MIDDLE-CLASS SMASHING, George Bush & Dick Cheney left
office?? Your life will never get any better until
YOU own it, Until you take responsibly for you own
shortcomings and failures and stop blaming corporations whom have no negative effect on you at
all. Except for dragging you out of your lean-to home
and giving you a pot to piss in and a window to throw
it out of.

There has never been a more prosperous and peaceful
time in human history.

I suggest you take advantage of it, and get to work.

“Methinks we have a cynic among us in Blueokie, friends.”

I suppose one person’s cynic is another person’s realist, felicity. Blueokie is on target, as usual.

People who can’t see the difference between
Republicans and Democrats don’t have their heads
screwed on straight. Seriously.

They are no different than the Bachmann types who
will vote against their own best interests no matter
what. The REALITY is: you have two choices, Democrats
or Republicans because no one else is going to win
the presidency. That’s a fact.

Magical thinking types are rarely brought down to
earth by common sense realities though, they prefer to consider themselves pure even though OBVIOUSLY they are not.

felicity

What is Democratic jihad? and how is going?

@ Charlie 1877

Let me tell you what time it is…

When Obama won, I said: “It sure is going to be a whole heckuvalot less fun to hate this fellow than it was to hate Bush”.

Now that the rest of the country is beginning to wake up, follow my lead, and get busy, I am beginning to have small glimmerings of hope.

Rise Up!!!!

Methinks we have a cynic among us in Blueokie, friends. 
Of course, a cynic doesn’t even believe himself - which
can be very consoling for those who volunteer to read
him.

The entire purpose of this clown car cavalcade of ethically challenged hacks is too convince the slack-jawed that Pres. Wall Street Puppet is the only thing standing between them and Armageddon.  Being Republicans they have to be to the right of Obamanation and since he has moved from center right to right
wing, they have no choice but become more radical.  The myth of Bush 3 being a socialist, liberal, man-of-the-people serves to galvanize both sides, while he laughs all the way to the bank.  As that bastion of progressive media the Associated Press reports that Pres. Wall Street Puppet has raised more money from Wall Street than all the Republicans combined, his campaign minions are all over the idiot box reviving the myth of small internet donors funding his campaign once again.

The Banksters have clearly decided they want a fourth term for Dubya’s policies and they have found a willing and appreciative accomplice in the Fraud from Illinois.  The only real question the media should be asking is will Meilia need to graduate college and marry a Goldman-Sachs hedgefunder to be hired by NBC,
or will a high school diploma be enough.

To put it simply, the Republican jihad is to create a
fundamental realignment of power. 

By the way, corporations are legal fictions - nothing
more than bundles of contractual agreements.  Frankly,
I don’t think of myself (of you) as a legal fiction -
nothing more than a (walking, talking, writing) bundle
of contractual agreements.

If you think things will change under republican leadership, you’re probably 17 years old.
You thought things would “be different” with all the hope and change. You thought
all you had to do was get rid of bush and equality would rain down from the sky, wars
would cease, your car would run off solar…...no, you don’t need a car,,you will take the
High speed train to your government job and take a long lunch at a streetwise cafe,
maybe have a glass of wine while you plan your six week holiday.

Get back to work sucker.

This is hogwash. What would the Republicans do that the Democrats aren’t already doing.
I will drink molten lead before I’ll vote for Obushma again.
The democrats campiagn strategy ammounts to “Sure, we’re awful, but the other guys just might be worse.”
That is not a winning strategy.

No, it’s “Republicans insane, Democrats cowards.”  And if people don’t have a clue what these fools really mean to do, you can blame the media for whom news and facts just aren’t as important as entertainment.  After that, blame the American public; I think the recently applied appellation of Planet Stupid is apt.

@ Billy Pilgrim

Regardless of which corporate butthole imperialist neo-liberal warmonger wins, I plan to keep on “whining” like there is no tomorrow.

The lesser of two evils. The good corporate cop or the bad corporate cop. The 75% plutocracy party versus the 100% plutocracy party. Or the Nader-esque option? Its back to the future, its groundhog day, its 2000/2012.

Romney made his fortune by gutting businesses, laying of the employees who worked
there then selling those buisnessses for Laredo sums of money. He doesn’t actually
now how to run a business, he only knows how to mine iit,a d squeeze it to death
walking away satisfied with himself and patting himself on the back.

On the other hand the Democratic party and president Obama, have abetted Wall
Streets larcenies, killed American citizens without trial, denying them of due process,
and failed to provide any prosecution of the financial criiminals who are currently running
our country.

Both political parties rely on the money given to them by Walll Street to run for political
office. Wall Street Relys on both the left and the right to decriminalize their crimes
against this country. It’s a criminal symbiotic relationship.

And so, because Obama and our criminal political class have done nothing to restore
the rule of law this country is on the tipping point of dissolution.

Only the pitchforks of the citizens can save us now, or maybe some disgruntled general
who is sick and tired of working for someone who should be behind bars.

Once more, not a word about Ron Paul, pro or con ...

The author is 100% correct. Of course, this will not
stop the pompous, politically simple class A assholes
from pontificating their worthless contributions to
what passes as political discourse on Truthdig. Go
ahead, stay home next November and don’t vote for Obama
in the battleground states. Then, after Romney wins,
keep whining on Truthdig for another four years as we
go further down the toilet.

@ardee—on this we agree!

Yet another in a series of pieces designed to convince the gullible or the apolitical that “Republicans bad Democrats good”.

We have, and rather recently, seen every possible combination of Tweedledum and Tweedledee in office. We have had a Republican in the White House with a Democratic majority in the legislature, we have had Republicans in the majority , we have had Democrats in the same position. The only constant is the increasing power of the corporations,the increasing influence of money in politics, the increasing scarcity of progressive ideas and ideals in Washington.

Until and unless the electorate begins to see clearly that it matters not which Party occupies which body, White House, Legislature ,whatever, we will continue to struggle against the rising tide of fascism.