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Posted on Jan 18, 2012
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By Pepe Escobar, TomDispatch

This post originally appeared at TomDispatch.

Let’s start with red lines. Here it is, Washington’s ultimate red line, straight from the lion’s mouth.  Only last week Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said of the Iranians, “Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No. But we know that they’re trying to develop a nuclear capability. And that’s what concerns us. And our red line to Iran is do not develop a nuclear weapon. That’s a red line for us.”

How strange, the way those red lines continue to retreat.  Once upon a time, the red line for Washington was “enrichment” of uranium. Now, it’s evidently an actual nuclear weapon that can be brandished. Keep in mind that, since 2005, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei has stressed that his country is not seeking to build a nuclear weapon. The most recent National Intelligence Estimate on Iran from the U.S. Intelligence Community has similarly stressed that Iran is not, in fact, developing a nuclear weapon (as opposed to the breakout capacity to build one someday).

What if, however, there is no “red line,” but something completely different? Call it the petrodollar line.

Banking on Sanctions?

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Let’s start here: In December 2011, impervious to dire consequences for the global economy, the U.S. Congress—under all the usual pressures from the Israel lobby (not that it needs them)—foisted a mandatory sanctions package on the Obama administration (100 to 0 in the Senate and with only 12 “no” votes in the House). Starting in June, the U.S. will have to sanction any third-country banks and companies dealing with Iran’s Central Bank, which is meant to cripple that country’s oil sales.  (Congress did allow for some “exemptions.”)

The ultimate target? Regime change—what else?—in Tehran. The proverbial anonymous U.S. official admitted as much in the Washington Post, and that paper printed the comment.  (“The goal of the U.S. and other sanctions against Iran is regime collapse, a senior U.S. intelligence official said, offering the clearest indication yet that the Obama administration is at least as intent on unseating Iran’s government as it is on engaging with it.”) But oops! The newspaper then had to revise the passage to eliminate that embarrassingly on-target quote. Undoubtedly, this “red line” came too close to the truth for comfort.

Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen believed that only a monster shock-and-awe-style event, totally humiliating the leadership in Tehran, would lead to genuine regime change—and he was hardly alone. Advocates of actions ranging from air strikes to invasion (whether by the U.S., Israel, or some combination of the two) have been legion in neocon Washington.  (See, for instance, the Brookings Institution’s 2009 report Which Path to Persia.)

Yet anyone remotely familiar with Iran knows that such an attack would rally the population behind Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guards.  In those circumstances, the deep aversion of many Iranians to the military dictatorship of the mullahtariat would matter little.

Besides, even the Iranian opposition supports a peaceful nuclear program.  It’s a matter of national pride.

Iranian intellectuals, far more familiar with Persian smoke and mirrors than ideologues in Washington, totally debunk any war scenarios.  They stress that the Tehran regime, adept in the arts of Persian shadow play, has no intention of provoking an attack that could lead to its obliteration. On their part, whether correctly or not, Tehran strategists assume that Washington will prove unable to launch yet one more war in the Greater Middle East, especially one that could lead to staggering collateral damage for the world economy.

In the meantime, Washington’s expectations that a harsh sanctions regime might make the Iranians give ground, if not go down, may prove to be a chimera.  Washington spin has been focused on the supposedly disastrous mega-devaluation of the Iranian currency, the rial, in the face of the new sanctions. Unfortunately for the fans of Iranian economic collapse, Professor Djavad Salehi-Isfahani has laid out in elaborate detail the long-term nature of this process, which Iranian economists have more than welcomed.  After all, it will boost Iran’s non-oil exports and help local industry in competition with cheap Chinese imports. In sum: a devalued rial stands a reasonable chance of actually reducing unemployment in Iran.


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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment

worth the wait

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment

dog~~~~ I used to hang out at my uncles’s place when I
was a kid. He was a big-time recording engineer for
Columbia Records and did all of Miles’ recordings and
most of the other jazz recording for them.

I met Elvin at my uncle’s and any one who ever spent
any time with the guy would know just how true and
funny (bittersweet) that comment was.

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

rock on… that is unless you’re jeux du realité is of the sort referenced in
answer to this question, posed by a critic: “How do you explain the captivating ebb
and flow in your band, Mr. Coltrane?” “It’s just Elvin,” he said.

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment

dog—- you’re gonna have to settle for a single example
of me drumming. I like to preserve a bit on anonymity.

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/Monkey_drumme
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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 5:25 pm Link to this comment

prose——right around Nov 1, (shortly after the US
announced the plot to assassinate the Saudi
ambassador to the US) the Ayatollah Khamanei
announced that he had evidence that the US was behind
terrorist attacks inside Iran and that he was going
to present that evidence in the next 30 days.

He didn’t.  So perhaps you shouldn’t hold your breath
waiting for Iran to produce anything real in this
case either.

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment

well then… in demand - point us to your discography

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 4:55 pm Link to this comment

not band, dog.  private students only, 1 on 1.

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By prosefights, January 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

Iran has sent a rare message to the United States, saying that Iran has evidence that the CIA was behind the latest killing of one of Iran’s nuclear scientists. Tensions have risen higher than ever over the ambitions of Iran’s nuclear program, which Iran says is only for creating peaceful energy and not for nuclear weapons. 

http://www.pennenergy.com/index/power/display/2103122251/articles/pennenergy/power/nuclear/2012/january/iran-sends_letter.html?cmpid=EnlWeeklyPowerJanuary202012

Regards Mr Escobar,

http://www.prosefights.org/whitmancrocker/whitmancrocker.htm#grabbe

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm Link to this comment

tally ho… a band teacher - percussionist too - by all means, feel free to critique
my scoring for an expansive battery manned by 2 in the score to THE FALL O1

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm Link to this comment

but I’ll give you partial credit because one of them was a drum student of mine.

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

family and friends

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment

let me guess…  students you once graded?

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PARTY ANIMALS A laptop was an essential item for a Washington blogger
session that included primary election returns and a meal of brisket.
WHERE we’re blogging from:

It’s Tuesday night in a two-story row house on Florida Avenue, near the
nightlife of the U Street corridor, as the Texas and Ohio primary returns pour
in.

10:36 p.m. Brief discussion of who has weirder eyebrows — Keith Olbermann
or David Gregory. The verdict is Gregory, by a hair. Or two.

10:43 p.m. Catherine Andrews, a former house resident and a current party
guest, cracks open a beer.

11:16 p.m. Senator Hillary Clinton begins her victory speech.

11:17 p.m. All 10 people splayed out in the living room begin making jokes
about Hillary’s victory speech.

11:28 p.m. Tom Lee, a software architect and a blogger, brings the party to a
halt when he holds up a mess of wires and asks, “Is anyone going to be in
serious professional trouble if I knock out the Internet for a minute?”

11:29 p.m. “Um, could you try not to?” asks Matthew Yglesias, 26, looking up
from the couch where he had been updating his blog on The Atlantic Monthly’s
Web site, every 20 minutes or so, throughout the party.

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Pepe Escobar, move over!

Fashion & Style, now that’s a hardship beat - almost as tough as the Arts &
Entertainment - something I know about, being a career artist - can you
imagine getting an American journo to write this about a live stage work in a
main-stream publication: ”...one of the most potent artistic responses to
war and state terrorism perpetrated by our government I’ve ever seen…”

http://amazing-visions.com/Pf_TF_files/TheFall-wDancers.mov

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

I know some of the folks that were members of Journolist, dog.


I know these guys

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/fashion/09bloghouse.html?
pagewanted=all

and a few others and happen to know that one of them is taping something for
CNN today, in a couple of hours.

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 1:40 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...get to know some of them… - how about getting us started, share
with us what it is you know that I/we/whoever doesn’t, to confirm that CNN’s
Anderson Cooper (for example) is a trustworthy source; or, any other source of
your choosing

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

dog—- if you don’t want to accept a rare bit of praise from me, I ain’t gonna
hold it against you!

However, I’m going to continue to say that Hart is as nutty as squirrel’s wet
dream…............


      “Hart added that the Mossad operation that became 9/11 would have
been aided and abetted by certain corrupt American leaders.

Sounding a chilling note, Hart added that the U.S. is in grave danger of an
Israeli-instigated false-flag nuclear attack….”

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2010/05/senior-bbc-mideast-correspondent-
heres.html

dog, keep on questioning what the govt tells you, but question the anti-govt
stuff just as much…..


and before you heed some bullshit about all the journalists in the country being
corrupt, get to know some of them… the charge is bullshit and if you spent
some time thinking about it you would realize how silly it is.

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 11:52 am Link to this comment

when it comes to the ME quagmire, all roads lead to 9/11, depending on the analysis one
chooses to embrace: call it a ‘cause celebre’ or a ‘mythical meme’

predictably our resident pedant, rarely recommends alternate sources of analysis, rather derides
those others post, thereby arresting the discussion

as for Hart’s 9/11 analysis, his own background, in close proximity to significant ME players and
service as a back channel Carter/Arafat/Begin negotiations, puts him in reliable company, e.g.
Paul Craig Roberts, Bob Bowman, Ray McGovern, Cynthia McKinney, to name a few, who have
served and show the guts to challenge the meme, and do so with contrary analysis, rather than
blunt, petulant name calling

deriding each and every one as a ‘9/11 nut’ is expected of our pedant and typically does nothing
to advance the discussion, casting suspicion on a sort of activity of which we’ve seen so much,
and which may be related to something of which we’ve heard:  Cass Sunstein’s “Cognitive
Infiltration” Strategy - as previously posed: “who covers you shit when you sleep?”

RE: Cass Sunstein:

Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor, co-wrote an academic article entitled “Conspiracy
Theories: Causes and Cures,” in which he argued that the government should stealthily infiltrate
groups that pose alternative theories on historical events via “chat rooms, online social
networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine” those groups.

Sunstein’s article, published in the Journal of Political Philosphy in 2008 and recently uncovered
by blogger Marc Estrin, states that “our primary claim is that conspiracy theories typically stem
not from irrationality or mental illness of any kind but from a ‘crippled epistemology,’ in the
form of a sharply limited number of (relevant) informational sources.”

In Cass Sunstein’s view, those who have a healthy functioning epistemology obtain their news
and information from government-approved  mainstream media sources. Surely Sunstein is
aware of the U.S. government’s long history of co-opting journalists and infiltrating news
organizations to ensure favorable reporting (see Carl Bernstein’s 1977 Rolling Stone article The
CIA and the Media and Alex Constantine’s book Mockingbird: The Subversion of the Free Press
by the CIA). Former CIA Director William Colby once boasted that “The CIA owns everyone of any
significance in the media.” The Pentagon pundit scandal (also referred to as “psy-ops on
steroids”) is a recent example of the U.S. government shaping public perception through the
recruitment of active and retired members of the military to sell the Iraq war to the American
people through the MSM.

Those suffering from Sunstein’s diagnosis of “crippled epistemology” are merely individuals who
obtain news and information from sources outside of the government’s long arm of control.
From the government’s perspective, there is a risk that increasing numbers of citizens will resort
to unapproved news outlets to feather their reality nests. When a critical mass of those who
reject the state-engineered MSM corporate propaganda is reached, the state’s fragile body of
lies is placed under heightened scrutiny.

[...]

from - http://tinyurl.com/7yyum3k

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By heterochromatic, January 20, 2012 at 8:37 am Link to this comment

dog~~~  and I thank you for yourself pointing out that Hart is a 9/11 nut and
discredited as a journalist.

it’s the stand-up thing to do when publishing remarks from Hart that are a bit
odd.  Our government lists MEK as a terrorist organization and there’s no reason
to think that Obama doesn’t think them to be such.

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By blogdog, January 20, 2012 at 1:55 am Link to this comment

pertinent: http://tinyurl.com/7m5ucdr

When is a terrorist not a terrorist? &; War with Iran or not?
Posted on January 18, 2012
By Alan Hart

The longer and complete form of the first question in the headline is – When is
a terrorist not a terrorist in the eyes of the Obama administration (not to
mention all of its predecessors) and the governments of the Western world?

Answer: When he or she is an Israeli Mossad agent or asset.

In the case of the assassination of Iranian scientists, the Mossad’s assets are
almost certainly members of the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) also
known as The Peoples’ Mujahedin of Iran, which is committed to overthrowing
the regime of the ruling mullahs. Many of its activists are based in Iraqi
Kurdistan where Mossad has a substantial presence. It does the training there,
selects the targets in Iran and provides the bombs and other weapons, and
MKO members do the actual killing.

It’s reasonable to presume that Mossad is more comfortable operating out of
Iraqi Kurdistan with Iranian MKO assets than it was when its own agents were
posing as CIA officers to recruit members of Jundallah, a Pakistan-based Sunni
extremist organization, to carry out assassinations and attacks on installations
and facilities in Iran.

Some of the essence of that Israeli false flag operation has been revealed by
Mark Perry in an article for Foreign Policy. His report is based on information he
acquired about memos buried deep in the archives of America’s intelligence
services which were written in the last years of President George “Dubya” Bush’s
administration, plus conversations he had with two currently serving U.S.
intelligence officials and four retired intelligence officers who worked for the
CIA or monitored Israeli intelligence operations from senior positions inside the
U.S. government.

[...]

http://www.alanhart.net/about-alan-hart/ -
in anticipation of our resident pedant digging for whatever dirt
may be dished on Alan Hart - and if he wants something to
really run with - Hart on 9/11
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8h1USNuNk

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By heterochromatic, January 19, 2012 at 11:20 pm Link to this comment

I’m not friends with a country that would have Sharon or Netanyahu leading it
or would allow a racist such as Lieberman to be its foreign minister.

Many years ago, when the Israelis started settling the West Bank, they lost me.

When the occupation ends, my opinion might change.


I don’t want to see any invasion of Iran despite gleefully anticipating the end of
the bunch of scum that constitute the present iranian regime and your gratitude
for my wisdom regarding the state of things in Iran is almost close to nearly
worth having.

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By prosefights, January 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm Link to this comment

Bernanke and Geithner are, in no small way, responsible for this landscaping project because of low CD interest rates.

Both took Mickey Mouse liberal art courses in college and were brainwashed, not educated.

http://www.prosefights.org/roofleak/t4/t4.htm#stepping

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By heterochromatic, January 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm Link to this comment

upyour—-thx. I do have trouble comprehending how people feel justified in
propounding that Obama doesn’t want any freedom for Americans.

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By upgradeyourlife, January 19, 2012 at 5:25 pm Link to this comment

@ heterochromatic - youre free to continue highlighting your comprehension issues.

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By consgohome, January 19, 2012 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment
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@heterochromatic

The Israelis are not your friends? Just who are your friends? Or are you just the disinterested objective observer who always sides with the conservateve, I mean centrist (such a strong position!) opinion on every thing discussed/posted on truthdig? What escapes Robes’ or my notice is anything thing but a right wing bias. I’m sure if our noble leader decided to invade Iran you would find a solid, objective opinion to support it. After all, you are so much more clearer and logical. I mean I for one am so glad you just got back from Iran to tell us the very truly true state of things.

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By heterochromatic, January 19, 2012 at 9:05 am Link to this comment

nakji====that made little sense, but you’re free to keep on saying it.

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By nakji, January 19, 2012 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

I’m for regime change in Iran. Oops! We need regime change here, too, and things may not be looking very good on that score. Why is it that Owebama is all freedom oriented as long as we are not the benefactors?

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By heterochromatic, January 18, 2012 at 10:00 pm Link to this comment

Robes, the Israelis are not my friends.

````` ” nobody is vouching for the Iranian regime as a system, but did the iron
fist of Stalin justify a fascist invasion by Hitler? ” ``````


quite right about that. I oppose the invasion of Russia by Hitler and would similarly
be opposed should he invade Iran.

(ps—- I’m not up for anybody to be invading Iran, but that probably escaped your
notice)

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By Jeff N., January 18, 2012 at 9:54 pm Link to this comment
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Well, you have all lost me a bit, though I’m inclined to agree with you blogdog I will check out Tarpley when I get a chance.. having no wikipedia for a day is a b*tch. 

Charlie Rose just had the iranian ambassador to the UN on his show, was pretty interesting although charlie acted like an ignorant american doofus yet again.  I need to learn a bit more about iranian government for sure, but what is to be accomplished by a regime change?  I guess it will just keep the country in a perpetual state of confusion and prevent iran from gaining more political influence in the region.  You would think that having a reliable country in the middle east would be helpful to the rest of the world, but it would also undermine the imperial domination role the US loves so much.

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By robjira, January 18, 2012 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment

An excellent article that should be spammed to the
White House and DoD.

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By Robespierre115, January 18, 2012 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic, also, nobody is vouching for the Iranian regime as a system, but did the iron fist of Stalin justify a fascist invasion by Hitler?

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By Robespierre115, January 18, 2012 at 8:50 pm Link to this comment

@heterochromatic, ok, here’s the basic, same assessment from your friends the Israelis:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-rejects-israeli-assessment-that-iran-sanctions-are-ineffective-1.408029

A senior U.S. official said Wednesday that Iran sanctions are effective, contrasting a recent statement by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the current sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic are insufficient to curb its nuclear program.

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By heterochromatic, January 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm Link to this comment

mata—- you and your crock of “global arrogance” are
quite premature in declaring that the Iranian
theocracy, which was done spit for the Iranian
people, has won anything….the vile despotic regime
in iran is the enemy of the Iranian people and far
less concerned with their welfare than with a small-
minded and ugly set of views and laws that they
attempt to pass off as “Islamic”.

the theocracy is in trouble and is contracting,
consistently and horrifically shedding any pretense
to representing the Iranian people and growing ever
more isolated not only in the world, but also at
home.

one rather notable recent example…...

~~~~” Fars News Agency reported today that more than
50 members of the current Majlis, the Iranian
parliament, have been disqualified to run for re-
election in the upcoming March 2 parliamentary
elections.” ~~~~

http://www.uskowioniran.com/2012/01/50-members-of-
majlis-disqualified-to.html


of course, other people would say that Khamenei’s
goons arresting Ahmadinejed’s aides on charges of
engaging in sorcery might be even more of a signal of
how fucking depraved these assholes really are.

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/05/09/iranian-
president-ahmadinejads-aides-arrested-for-sorcery-
and-consorting-with-genies/

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By blogdog, January 18, 2012 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

your attempts at stand-up are painfully pathetic, tic - Palin is so yesterday and was always too easy a target
for any real traction

the Press TV links I post are mostly interviews - if your claim is that the Iranian Government is putting
words into the mouth of Webster Tarpley, you should take that up with him - do it here http://tarpley.net/ -
through the Speakers Bureau Contact link

if your claim is that Western Corporate Media is more reliable than state-sponsored media in the Middle
East and elsewhere, that’s a hard one to prove - moreover we have examples like this: 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d0_1321948666&comments=1

Al Jazeera was widely disparaged in the West until it became fully infiltrated and is now an organ of Qatari
Intelligence who take their orders from MI6, CIA and MOSSAD, ergo: the fake Green Square war propaganda
during the invasion of Tripoli & resent fake massacre footage from Syria - BBC has run its share of fake
footage too…

e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DizWsAARRE

this one is particularly telling, as in the crowd is seen the Indian flag - BBC later apologized, for the ‘cock
up’ - seems the progeny of the empire on which the sun never sat can’t keep their WOGs sorted out

now if you’ve got sources you think are more reliable, please share them - frankly, I think you got squat -
agitprop from the same studios that gave us the bin laden tapes

e.g. http://tinyurl.com/82wkvqt

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By heterochromatic, January 18, 2012 at 6:14 pm Link to this comment

just in case you’re interested .......here’s some facts and opinion concerning
PRESS-TV


http://globalmediawars.com/?page_id=74

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By heterochromatic, January 18, 2012 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment

dog—- if you’re going to link to PRESS-TV please be aware that it’s an Iranian govt
propaganda site and about as honest and trustworthy as Sarah Palin’s twittertrash.

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By mata, January 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment
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Sir, there is one basic fact behind all this anti-
Iran behavior in the West: Iran has consistently
shown its independent nature as a modernizing and
working nation/state. Iran is developing its
industrial & technological sectors, based on the
needs of its population, and established cultural
obligations it feels to hold towards the Islamic
world; and away from any diktat from the West. It is
not about acquiring nuclear technology with military
dimension: it is about Iran’s foreign policy, and its
apparent strength to challenge a less than an handful
of states in the world capable of both to producing
and to export the nuclear fuel: In its foreign
policy, Iran has consistently sided with those
countries, particularly those from the Islamic world
struggling against the US. or the Europeans for that
matter: Iran has become a spring-board, a model for
resistance & struggle against injustices of this
world; led by the Western arrogance. The Islamic
Republic of Iran has successfully challenged and won
against the old-order; led by the Americans. On the
latter, it is about the monopolization of nuclear-
fuel industry and its supply chain, which the
traditional suppliers i.e. the Canadians, the French,
the Americans, Australians and of course the
Russians, they feel it is their monopoly to exploit &
control. How naive!

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By heterochromatic, January 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

the article sucks, as is usual for Pepe, and is larded with silly claims and
misinterpretation of things.

Iran very very truly is growing ever more isolated and ever more damaged from the
sanctions and internally weak.

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By Robespierre115, January 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

Excellent article. Now THESE are the issues we should be discussing this election season. You’ll never see Pepe on Bill Maher’s show!

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By blogdog, January 18, 2012 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...But regime change has certainly been a popular tactic by the US for
some time.  How does it work/ whats the goal here?

supremacy of the petro-dollar and failed states, weak and pliant - how: media
demonization, agitprop, saber-rattling, a few false flags, more agitprop from
foundation-funded human rights groups, UN resolutions and the rest is history -
Chomsky makes safe analyses - more insightful is Tarpley - http://tarpley.net/

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By Jeff N., January 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment
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From what I can understand, the nuclear factor of iran has very little to do with our (the U.S.) current interests there.  This article seems to put forth the idea of regime change, and I’ve listened to Chomsky put forth a similar idea, that basically we don’t want anyone becoming too powerful politically or economically in the middle east…  So what is the motivation behind regime change?  I dont know too much about the iranian leadership, but it seems like as soon as you take one person out, you just get another one like it.  But regime change has certainly been a popular tactic by the US for some time.  How does it work/ whats the goal here?

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By World Citizen, January 18, 2012 at 3:04 pm Link to this comment
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This is mindblowing honestly.
Great Article Escobar!

I just hope we as americans don’t get fooled into another war. I hope this time around we have sense, and the guts to stand up to the powers that be.

At the end of the day, their suppose to represent us, not the dollar or some fixed fear of losing power.

The People’s Army.

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By blogdog, January 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

Iran is not after nuclear weapons. This time it is not an Iranian official stating
this, the statement comes from United State’s highest defense authority

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=—eQTnqd8Ww&feature=related

US Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum has callously described
the assassination of Iranian scientists as “wonderful,” threatening that those who
work for Iran’s nuclear program “are not safe.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8uNcIEvGdo

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By balkas, January 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm Link to this comment

escobar: ultimate goal being regime change. or maybe not! maybe the regime change is second, third, or fourth [ultimate] goal?
i suggest that the first ultimate goal is getting hold of all of the planet for world supremacists.
the second goal might be to establish and then maintain for all time personal supremacism [the only valid thought for them] on
all of the planet. 
the third goal might be to establish one world religion. [and in the end of history reject it as nonsense; which, of course it is]

so, i suggest to islamists in saudi arabia, jordan, egypt, jordan, syria/libya [or present rebels there] yemen, iraq, afgh’n, central
asia they better watch out! what you gonna do, when they come for you?
of course, the warning applies to judaists, as well.

i could have skipped to posit all of the above and said in its stead that world supremacists want first of all to end the class
struggle and, thus, prove to all those people who were saying that class struggle would never end unless working class rises in
armed rebellion, that said classfulness could be eradicated by world supremacists by other means and ways than as suggested
by nonsupremacists; i.e., dreaded and hated socialists and/or communists.
but, it does seem, that one of the ways to achieve an ideal equality among individuals might be waging wars and wars for
poverty/famines, ignorance, extirmination of, say, 90 to 95% of people and, voila. the deal is done!
so, brace yourselves for more and more serious wars. no more cake walks like the walks into afgh’n and iraq. thanks

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By SoTexGuy, January 18, 2012 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment

From all evidence we are now at war with Iran.

Our direct actions have crashed their currency. We seek to deprive them of markets for their exports.. Our leaders have declared they have no rights to control their maritime borders .. plus their scientist-citizens are targets of our (or Israeli) agents, inside their sovereign borders.

We in the US of A would tolerate none of these actions.. against us they would be declared as they are.. acts of war.

Is there any doubt that the US Corptocracy seeks to control Iran?

If Iran is not building a dozen nuclear warheads and the capacity to detonate them on our Carrier fleets and Israel then they have abandoned any hope of retaining their freedom (from US dominance) or any true sovereignty. Not that any such thing is desirable! by Iran or anyone.. history and current events and policy clearly show the N-bomb as one way to put off US-Israeli-neo-capitalist hegemony.

Are the Iranians bad people? Why, for seeking self-determination? Maybe they are bad, mostly brown (and therefore disposable) people.. So what? does that make them fodder for our corporate-militarism?

Events will tell.

Adios!

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