Obama negotiates away 70 years of Democratic progress. Boehner cant add or
subtract.

Apparently, the ineptitude extends beyond Obama.

I can forgive Boehner’s ignorance, but not Obama’s arrogance.

Obama pledges to ‘go against my Party’.

But Obama has gone against thinking Republicans, Independents and
Democrats.

1. The Debt and Fair Taxes: Washington Post-ABC poll Washington Post-ABC
poll, Spring 2011: 72 percent supported raising taxes on the rich including 68
percent of Independents and 54 percent of Republicans. Obama twice
‘bargained’ to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

2. TARP & Financial Bailout: Over 70% of us opposed the bailout. Obama
accelerated it with Geithner and Bernanke - both Bush carryovers embraced by
Obama.  Geithner is soon to receive his ‘bailout’ from the financial sector (as he
soon ‘retires’ from the Obama administration).

3. Health Care: 72% of us supported “a government­administered insurance plan
- something like Medicare for those under 65—that would compete for
customers with private insurers.” Supporting Max Baucus, Obama blocked
hearings on single payer and chocked off true health care reform. Instead he
supported a private-sector, for-profit health insurance ‘reform’ that provided
insurance companies fabulous guaranteed profits.

4. Afghanistan: 64% of us opposed expanding the war in Afghanistan and
wanted to disentangle from Bush-era ‘War on Terror’ and ‘preventive war’
policies. Today, still over 60% of Americans oppose the war. Obama continues
it.

Now, having turned his back on thinking Republicans, Independents and
Democrats, Obama has the temerity to ‘negotitate’ away 70 years of Democratic
gains and, adding insult to injury, ask us to call our Congressperson to express
our support.

Obama’s gambit couldnt be a more bitter gag, if it had been created by a
Republican - did I say a Republican?

Yes, Obama is a Republican and we made a very serious mistake in electing him
in 2008 -  a mistake we should not repeat in 2012. Please, let us run a
Democrat.

Sometimes a little Karl Marx is good for the mix:

“Hegel says somewhere that all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another.  He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.”

The greatest race event in US History was the Civil War; Abe Lincoln was the tragic personality; the event ending with slaves “liberated” into even worse poverty than they suffered at the hands of slave drivers was the tragic event.

The Second great race event in US History was the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.  It was also tragedy.  The second race event that was also tragedy was the welfare legislation that left African Americans without their dignity while in some ways materially improving their condition, though more nominally than substantively.

The Third great race event in US History was the election of an African American as president.  This was truly the most astonishing farce we (yes, I voted for him) could have possibly enabled to befall the nation.  As if to make sure they had their definitive hand in the farcical event to accompany the personality, the Republican Party is assuring the world they will turn the Great Recession into the Second World Depression, and, as if they are insecure about their goal of destroying the US Government, they are pulling the confidence of not just the US population, but the whole world’s population from any semblance of representative democracy.

For, in their hands, with plenty of help from the Democrats, US representative democracy represents nothing so clearly as it represents the worst conceivable human tendencies that have ever accompanied any nation that sustained even the faintest pretenses of belonging to civilization.

And so what if it was the third time in US History that the great personalities & events presented themselves as the world history’s greatest farce?

Poll: GOP gains big with white voters
By Cameron Joseph - 07/22/11 03:36 PM ET

Democrats’ advantage over Republicans in partisan affiliation is way down from 2008 as white voters have turned against them, according to a poll released Friday by the Pew Research Center.

While minority voters continue to support Democrats in large numbers, what was just a two-point Republican edge among whites in 2008 has grown to a 13-point advantage today. Republican gains among white voters are “particularly pronounced among the young and poor,” according to the report.

White voters under age 30 now break for Republicans by an 11-point margin; in 2008 they broke for Democrats by a seven-point margin. This could spell trouble for the democratic party’s reelection efforts, as they capitalized on a coalition of minority voters and younger white voters to win [the White House].

[Part of the calculus might be that the democrats have labeled moderate and independent voters extremists and criminals.]

Democrats still hold a 47-44 percent advantage in partisan affiliation, counting those who lean to one party or another, according to the poll. But because minorities tend to vote at lower rates, that slight advantage is likely not enough to translate to democratic wins at the ballot box.

@ Eugene Robinson

Compromise? WHAT COMPROMISE?

It’s the same ruling class idiots that have been around since Roman times and even before that are ripping you off and using you as voluntary slaves and they don’t care about you and your family because you’re not of their bloodline. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1if6tJO2GA

You have just been outdone by a 12 yr old girl! Shame on you.

And you call yourself a reporter? What kind of a scam are you trying to pull?

As long as SAME ruling class is in place, using the SAME fiat [fictitious] money system, SAME central banks owned by same investors, SAME stock market system .. who use it as their own private gambling casino you ALL will keep on getting screwed.

SAME so-called Royalty controls everything on earth that they can steal from the people by outright theft, fraud, war, torture, destruction and deception. Doesn’t matter whether it’s British, German, Saudi, East Indian, Chinese, Indonesian, French or other ROYALTY ... they all work together against the rest of the people.

Haven’t you read “Prince” by Machiavelli?

@Everyone else:
I have to thank Eugene for letting me lead into some remedies ... your Rights.

1. you are born as a Free Sovereign Being .. same as a King or Queen. Don’t ever forget it.

2. you were born with the Freedom of Choice. This means you can make decisions for your well-being as long as you are told the truth, the whole truth .. and comprehend it fully. No wonder ruling class has been hiding it from you over 1,000’s of yrs.

3. you have the Right to enough arable land to sustain you and your family. Only way you can loose it is if you try to poison your neighbor, commit fraud or fail on your contracts. If you abuse your land you are dead by default.
Hint: those who try to poison, steal or abuse your land can loose theirs.

4. you have the right to learn all Universal and Natural Laws that govern everything. Especially ones they called occult [hidden]. They are the other half of what you need to know.

5. you have the Right to travel anywhere you want without restrictions. No passports, no licenses, no papers or any of that crap.

6. you have the Right to do as you want and need as long as you don’t breach the first 3 rules of others ... and you don’t degrade their well-being in any way.

7. you have the Right to improve yourself until you are ready to travel the stars to meet the rest of life’s communities.

The rest you can search out for yourselves or I will help you in part if need be.

About article: bankers, politicians, economy, industry, hoarding of resources, degrading well-being of others is all a scam to divert you from learning what you need to know ... and rise up to whom you really are.

All the answers are in ancient records of the most ancient civilizations. The older the better.

Once humanity learns and turns back into Kings and Queens the ruling class becomes obsolete .. by default.
Get the hint yet?

Ardee:
You can call the TeaParty temporary, but even if they “fail” they will have totally changed the GOP.

While I’d like the Green Party to do well, I think this Fabian Socialism “waiting” is showing just how ineffective they are.  And believe, me, a “temporary success” like the TeaParty’s by the Greens would be a GREAT thing for this nation.

Ain’t gonna happen, not matter how you wish it.  The strategy isn’t working.  How many years have the Greens been at it and, basically, gotten nowhere?  In the same time the successful parties have gotten up an running.

Sure, the game is heavily biased towards the two, but THAT is a function of the organization of the Constitution, how the districts are organized, and how the states get senators and votes on amending the Constitution. It’s not “rigged” because the rules are out there and you gotta play by them. Biased and rigged aren’t the same thing.

Truly SOME things are rigged, but that’s different.

Completely successful and partially successful parties have all achieved more than the Greens.  Hell, even Eugene Debs actually got some Electoral votes.

The Greens’ strategy is doomed to fail.  Actually, it already has failed. I wish it hadn’t but, unlike Germany and other nations, it can’t get people elected to Federal office here.

You may squirm and argue, but you cannot get around that…It’s now 11 years since Nader ran in the 2000 election and the Greens STILL haven’t sent anyone to Washington.  The Teabaggers sent over 80 Congresscritters and a number of Senators just 2 years after their founding.

That’s real power, Ardee, much as I hate them having it.

It’s quite comical to read posts pointing the finger at the other side of the same coin, the republican criminals, as if they are the sole crime family in Washington. The Democrat crime family is just as guilty. Glass-Steagall was undone under whose watch? What about the signing of NAFTA? Drone murders expanded under whose watch? Another undeclared war under whose watch? I claim allegiance to country and constsitution. Political “parties” are for hacks.

GAMING THE POLITICAL SYSTEM

RD: The “success” of the Tea Party, however temporary its shine might be, however impermanent its works, is based upon the infusions of cash from the Koch brothers and others.

Yes, it was important. But, money can’t buy you love.

The major factor was that the Dems, so imbued with their success at electing Obama, became complacent within a major economic recession.

Elections are decided by swing-voters. And those swing-voters have no profound attachment to either party. In this election, swing voters that could be favorable to Dem-candidates stayed away in profound disgust. Those favorable to the TP-Crazies, otoh, were prompted to vote and, yes, the BigMoney did help get out that vote. (Think of how smug the Koch-brothers must feel that they could influence an election.)

Had there been no BigMoney involvement, however, it is entirely possible that the vote would have been the same. We’ve gamed the voting system by gerrymandering it away from the one-person-one-vote rule. Which is an anti-democratic outcome.

The Dems are clearly at fault for what happened in the HofR, which is a far more “populist” chamber than the Senate. They did not work hard enough. And in the Senate, particularly in Massachusetts where the vote of a Republican to replaced Ted Kennedy gave them the power to filibuster any legislation to death.

All these are minor factors, but they all conflated to have given us the present political mess in which this country finds itself.

Republicans have known how to exploit their leveraging in the present situation. In terms of the argumentative cogency of what they propose today, they haven’t a leg to stand on. They are wrong all the way down the line, just as they were during the entire Dubya Administration.

But the American voter is not yet smart enough to see through the smokescreen. The voters remain very naive at the GrassRoots and above that level, in the middle to lower upper-class, it has become very lackadaisic.

Each and every election is an uphill battle. Parties tend to forget that simple rule, however, and rest upon their laurels - which is a major strategical error.

POST SCRIPTUM

The “why” behind the two extremes is a very good question requiring some adroit investigation.

The historical pattern of Right and Left voters has been deconstructed. We have two extremes - the Unionized Left and the Religious Right - and a wishy-washy middle that is pliable by the considerable manipulation of MassMedia.

(Methinks. On Mondays ...)

THE SANTAYANA RULE

HR.In the December report we learned that in October of 2008 the Fed did not just disperse $800 billion in cash in a few days to the chosen on Wall Street and in the executive offices of corporations around the world. We learned in December that the figure was closer to $2.6 trillion. Then this week from the next audit under the new oversight law of the Fed we learned that that figure was way, way too low.

The Fed had embarked upon what is known as Quantitative Easing. You are citing the numbers without asking why or how. You seem to think, wrongly, that is was just to feed the FatCats - which is a serious delusion.

Read about why and how it was done here.

If the Fed does nothing, it gets the blame. If the Fed does something, it gets the blame. Ditto the Obama Administration.

There is so much finger pointing in blogs that it is a Great Difficulty separating the chaff from the wheat. It’s as if after the Great Binge, Americans has been afflicted wholly with the DTs (Delerium Tremens).

THE EVIDENCE

Both the economic and political systems are broke. And, I submit, due to one and only one political party - the Republicans. Consider what this nation has been through:
* Reckless knee-jerk lowering of taxes over three decades,
* Spending trillions on their cronies in the M-I-C with two pocket-wars. Didn’t Eisenhower warn us against this half a decade ago?
* Neutering of Federal oversight agencies because of the Dogmatic Stupidity that free-markets are supposedly self-correcting. Republican Administration negligence caused directly the (1) the SubPrime Mess, (2) The Credit Mechanism Seizure of 2008 and (3) the Great Recession of 2009, wherein we are mired economically.
* And, so, we elect the TP Crazies into control of the HofR? And give the Senate Repubs the possibility to Filibuster any legislation to death?

All the above seems like a scenario from “The Gang that Couldn’t Shoot Straight”. The Gang of LaLaLand on the Potomac.

MY POINT

We shall inevitably pull ourselves out of The Mess. But first ask yourself: Have we learned any lessons that will prevent another Great Mess from happening in the near future?

That is the question that the Santayana Rule poses in the form of this quotation:

Those who refuse to learn from the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them.

Inherit The Wind, July 24 at 6:44 pm

The “success” of the Tea Party, however temporary its shine might be, however impermanent its works, is based upon the infusions of cash from the Koch brothers and others.

To call the Green Party a “failure” is a silly statement, and it ignores reality as well. The strategy of the Greens is a solid one, in my opinion. Your criticism shows that you failed to do the research as well. Each election cycle shows more Greens on more ballots everywhere, more Greens elected to local and state offices as well.

The game is rigged, as you well know, in favor of the Duopoly Party, and they work diligently to keep their monopoly. To think the party a failure because it has yet to elect a national office holder is simply to display a lack of awareness of that party’s strategies. Considering the stranglehold on elections held by the two useless and sold out parties I think that Greens are doing rather well each new election cycle.

shame on us all!
are the american people honestly prepared to continue tax breaks for the top 1% of americans, allow corporations to operate in a tax free environment despite record profits, finance 3+ wars, and let these self serving pigs in both the executive and legislative branches - all of whom have fine heath insurance, free floating pay raises and perks beyond the imagination of anyone out in the public sector - over the feeding the poor, educating our children and advance our neglected infrastructure.

enough is enough.

Maybe instead of saying a third way it to get rid of the Bush tax cuts, it might have been better to phrase the two ways as, 1. Cut spending, 2. Raise revenues.

Making the economy grow and getting rid of the Bush tax cuts are but two of many ways to raise revenues.  Making the economy grow when just measuring the increase in wealth is not as good as getting rid of the Bush tax cuts to raise the rate of employment.

You forgot the third option which is to raise the tax rates for the wealthy.  Even though it will eventually lead to economic growth and is necessary to achieve a self-sustaining jobs recovery, it is not quite the same thing.

The plan of the Gang of 6 which Obama said he likes somewhat would try to enhance tax revenues by cutting tax rates for the wealthy.  So apparently Obama has bought into Voodoo economics, too.

Obama may have been advised by strong Keynesians - Roemer from Berkeley, but his closest advisors are from The University of Chicago -  Goolsbee.  Certainly these people were as anti-Keynesian as you can get.

Here are a few thoughts for Inherit the Wind:

Is there a large, secret government agency with agents provacatures ready to infiltrate the TP?

Or, more likely, are their black funds used to promote the neofascism of the TP?

Might there be agents provacatures disrupting the Green, Socialist, Communits, etc. party?

and, Money talks and bullshit walks.

I have a single question:
Why has the Teaparty “worked” (and it has—they are achieving their goals and replacing the Republican Party, just keeping the name.  Like NCNB acquired Bank of America, and kept the name) and the Green Party failed miserably?

The TP leaped from a small bunch of crackpots to controlling Congress in just 2 years. The Greens can’t even get one Congressperson elected.

The answer lies in the question itself: Ignoring context (namely, each group’s politics), how do these two differ?  What tactics worked for the TP, what tactics failed for the Greens?

It’s not simply money…Why?

Let’s pretend this was a political version of the old game Clue and then let’s see
if we can assemble some clues and figure it out.

1 Today, Boehner tells the Republican Party and the Tea Party to stick together.

2 Last week, Obama declares he’s going to"go against his own Party”

3 During the spring, Tim Geithner told his European audience that the President
and the Republicans were ‘on the same page’.

Wait ! Wait ! Dont tell me ! I know !

Yes. As the saying goes: “We know how this ends”

Mr. Robinson, you make no mention of the findings of the recent audit of the Fed mandated by the Sanders clause that requires periodic public accounting of the actions of the Fed.

In the December report we learned that in October of 2008 the Fed did not just disperse $800 billion in cash in a few days to the chosen on Wall Street and in the executive offices of corporations around the world. We learned in December that the figure was closer to $2.6 trillion. Then this week from the next audit under the new oversight law of the Fed we learned that that figure was way, way too low.

Apparently $16 trillion was handed out to bankers around the world and corporate executives from both American and foreign corporations, much of it interest free. That amounts to $53,300 for every man, woman and child in the United States. A poor family of four could have received over $200,000.

http://newmexicoindependent.com/70823/gao-report-federal-reserve-issued-16-trillion-during-recession

A Google search on 7.24 returned 73 similar articles confirming the numbers I quote above.

Sixteen trillion! And we are supposed to think the end of the world is coming because the country has accumulated 14 trillion in over 200 years?

How could it be that those same characters who could create $16 trillion at the click of a keyboard in a few days have to throw America overboard because we have hit a 14 trillion “debt ceiling?”

This entire “debt ceiling affair” is an absurd charade being orchestrated by a duplicitous, spineless coward and a gang of religious fanatics, all utterly corrupt and bankrupt of morals or ideals, all under the pay of the same Wall Street Banksters.

We need a revolution, and if we get one, and the said same corrupt criminals occupying the highest offices of our nation end up dead, it will be their own fault for betraying America and everything they have sworn an oath to uphold.

Lafayette

Well, certainly one of us doesn’t get it.

I will re-post and repeat, try and read the full post please. Its OK if your lips move while you are reading.

The American electorate has a choice, so far, of Tweedledee or Tweedledum so blaming them for their votes is less than honest I think. It matters little which of the Duopoly candidates one casts ones ballot for as, in the end, the same lame policies continue untouched. That fewer turnout at the polls might be a signal to those not blinded by party loyalty, or rather crippled politically by that loyalty, that our electorate is fed up indeed.

I’m all eyes …

An interesting mental picture but my image shows a person with eyes firmly shut and hands clasped tightly over his ears.

addendum…your last response really proves my contention of that last paragraph.

THE UN DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

RD: he leaders deserve the blame, either for leading us into the wilderness or failing to lead us out of it.

You don’t get it do you?

We’ve got the leaders we deserve. Who voted the Crazies back into power in both chambers of Congress?

If you believe that Obamama bends over backwards to please the Plutocrats, then you haven’t a clue of what it takes to get elected in this country. So, you’ll never be satisfied.

The political system is busted and has been for quite some time. It’s too damn easy for politicians to “game the system”, so they do it. And why?

Because they can. Nothing prevents them and nothing will until Americans smarten up and chose a political leadership that will reform the political system.

SUGGESTIONS

* Do away with gerrymandering that encrusts party power in legislatures.
* Do away with unlimited campaign funding donations and replace them with Federal/state funding (with strings attached).
* Adopt a Progressive Agenda that tackles the challenge of an immoral Income Disparity in our nation.
* Enhance the Bill of Rights with a good number of articles from the UN’s Declaration of Human Rights. (See here. Particularly Article 25.)

If anyone thinks our Bill of Rights goes far enough, link to that site. Read it entirely and you’ll understand that though the US signed it in 1948 - it was never ratified by the Senate.

A political leader (anywhere) is always a lightening-rod during a bad economy with high unemployment. In a democracy, such negativism should be accepted - after all, America is not North Korea. It is representative of a certain malaise broad within the country.

Then why not accept it? The leaders deserve the blame, either for leading us into the wilderness or failing to lead us out of it.

What is unfortunate, however, is the desire to blindly blame the presidency - when, in fact, it is the people themselves who should accept their part of the blame. Any democratic governance, whether in the form of the two chambers of Congress or the PotUS are reflections of the electors’ collective will.  The American electorate voted these “numbskulls” into office and they can vote them out of office.

Yadda, yadda. The criticisms I read about the Obama administration are rather accurate, though I think you see only the tone and not the facts. From his continuance of the policies, both domestic and foreign, of the Bush administration, to his appointments of members of the financial community to oversight of that community, his refusal to investigate, much less prosecute, those responsible for the economic disaster. Do you then support his decisions to cut welfare, social security, further cripple an already crippled educatory system, rather than place a fair burden of taxation upon the wealthy and the corporations? Not to mention his absurd foreign policies that match those of Shrubya!

The American electorate has a choice, so far, of Tweedledee or Tweedledum so blaming them for their votes is less than honest I think. It matters little which of the Duopoly candidates one casts ones ballot for as, in the end, the same lame policies continue untouched. That fewer turnout at the polls might be a signal to those not blinded by party loyalty, or rather crippled politically by that loyalty, that our electorate is fed up indeed.

I’m all eyes …

An interesting mental picture but my image shows a person with eyes firmly shut and hands clasped tightly over his ears.

THE NATTERING NABOBS OF NEGATISM

The above alliteration was first employed by Spiro Agnew during his wholly forgettable time as VP under Nixon. It can be used today, however, as seen in this blog, appropriately to label those who are shills for the Replicants.

They haven’t a shred of factual evidence for what they say, but they place their negative bile-in-a-blog nonetheless. After all, anything goes here – it’s an Open Forum.

A political leader (anywhere) is always a lightening-rod during a bad economy with high unemployment. In a democracy, such negativism should be accepted - after all, America is not North Korea. It is representative of a certain malaise broad within the country.

What is unfortunate, however, is the desire to blindly blame the presidency - when, in fact, it is the people themselves who should accept their part of the blame. Any democratic governance, whether in the form of the two chambers of Congress or the PotUS are reflections of the electors’ collective will.  The American electorate voted these “numbskulls” into office and they can vote them out of office.

Put more factually:
* The American public went binging on Cheap Credit. Yes, oversight agencies and the administration at the time should have forbidden SubPrime Loans.
* Yes, Main Street realtors should never have been able to propose subprime loans to non-creditworthy buyers. Yes, banks should never have allowed to process such loans without buyer creditworthiness validations. But they did ...
* The purpose of credit is to leverage Disposable Income to allow consumer to purchase items that they could not pay for outright. The American economy depended upon credit to such an extent that its Savings rate went negative in 2005. (See here.) Which set the stage for the SubPrime Mess that brought down the economy.
* That economy was gifted (with a ribbon) by one of the most inept Republican administrations in American history to the Obama administration.
* Americans haven’t the slightest notion of how an economy works and why it doesn’t work. Economists were telling us at the beginning of the Great Recession of 2009 that a recession of this proportion takes usually 3 to 5 years to repair itself.
* No, Americans refused to understand economic reality. They preferred to stay away from the midterm elections piqued by the evidence that the Obama Administration could not walk on water and had no Economic Miracle to pull us out of a recession. The consequence of which was that the “Crazies” took over the HofR as well as the Senate (by means of having the right to filibuster any legislation to death).
*The Crazies have stonewalled all legislation possible. Though Obama was the first president in history to get passed Health Care legislation since the inauguration of Medicare/Medicaid, the Crazies were successful in denying him the Public Option – thus throwing a favor to their BigInsurance cronies.
* And the shills in this forum are trying to attribute All-The-Shit to Obama.

Yeah right, when pigs sprout wings. The Replicant shills here are devoid of any factual evidence when posting their Mindless Absurdity. Unless of course they would like to refute the above facts.

I’m all eyes …

IN DENIAL

c96: I wish he would be more specific.  He said, “Americans do not want their taxes to be raised.”

Boehner is in denial. This Gallup Poll shows what Americans want as reagard taxation, here - and have wanted for quite some time.

Republican dogma is causing them to hallucinate. Its political class needs reformation. Let’s allow them to do so in presidential elections next year.

A clear and precise Progressive Agenda would also help the Dems find once again their True North headings.

Both have been wallowing in political promiscuity. Income Inequality is the greatest menace confronting America today.

Some perceptive (and angry) comments, all containing truth. But , to carry truth to its logical conclusion:

Obama IS going to be the Democratic Party Nominee.

The Democrats have proven, whether in the majority in the legislature, or in the minority there, to be the same know nothing, do nothing but run in circles around Republican lies and extremism, war mongering, torturing, obeisant to corporate interests bunch that have helped to lay this nation low.

To continue to vote for “the lesser evil” is the depth of silliness and does nothing to prolong the inevitable descent into Third World status that both major parties are responsible for achieving.

Some say, with motives of their own, that there will never be a third party strong enough to make a difference. I say that there will never again be a Democratic Party worthy of my vote. Never once, among the detractors of third party building, has there been one serious path to reformation of the party they claim to love so much. I guess the current make up suits them fine…

Each election cycle the Green Party has gained more offices, more ballot access and more support among the embittered and angry electorate. Democratic loyalists ( well, one in particular anyway) say that no third party will ever achieve national prominence but I say it is not up to her but up to all of us.

The German Green Party took a decade or more to gain power there, so it can be done. I personally think it must be done! At the very least, as votes are lost to the major parties, they will be forced to reconsider their positions and include progressivism back in the platforms. Personally again, I think we need a third party IN the legislature, one pledged to refuse corporate monies and the accompanying influences. I see no other way to restore our government to one OF the people and not of the CORPORATION.

Do you really believe those who benefit most from corporate money will change election laws? Or work to revise the tax code and close loopholes, or care a damn about your jobs, your kids education, or the roof over your head?

Im for ousting Obama in the 2012 Democratic primaries and finding a
Democrat.

Let Obama run as a Republican; then, he wont have to ‘go against those in his
own Party’.

Obama has not ‘gone against those in his party’; Obama has gone against the
people who made up the majority that elected him - the middle class.

Obama has gone against the majority that is composed of Democrats, thinking
Republicans and Independents.

Obama has sacrificed middle class programs in the interests of maintaining the
Bush tax cuts (this will be the third time - he has formerly done that with
McConnell, the with Boehner and now again in support of the Tea Party).

Obama has fouled health care by ditching 60 plus years of Democratic policy
and substituting a Republican governors insurance company bailout with
continuing subsidies.

Obama has extended the ‘war on terror’ and it disastrous consequences
continue for America and America’s soldiers.

Obama has blotched financial reform (it is now being nibbled to death by
ducklings from K Street).

Obama has bailed out corporations and the financial institutions with our
money and then protected their pay and bonuses (which were made available
from taxpayer funds).

Obama has appointed the CEO of one of the companies we bailed out to serve
as a White House ‘balance the budget advisor’ after the CEO’s company received
bailouts from the taxpayers and then contrived to pay no (none, zero, zip)
taxes.

And you wanted to be my latex salesman…. ?

Please, let us find a Democrat to run in 2012. And let Obama run as the
Republican nominee. As a Republican, Obama will not have to ‘go against his
own Party’; he will be among his own.

Inherit The Wind,
“Obama’s about to cave yet again…”
To write that Obama will “cave” assumes he’s giving in to something he’s been fighting against. He can’t “cave” on something he’s actually wanted all along. Obama would rather the voters see him as “weak” than see him as the venal ba*tard that he is.
I agree with the rest of your comment, though.

It’s hard to believe that even Eugene, along with virtually all politicians, ignores the third way of reducing debt as a percentage of GDP, the obvious one, taxation adequate to cover your spending.
But what amazes me far beyond that is the Democrat’s eagerness to pile up important things to cut while the gopers just look away with disdain.
Declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional by the 14th Amendment and leave SS, etc alone. Pick your least favorite war, end that, and we’re there.

It’s hard to believe that even Eugene, along with virtually all politicians, ignores the third way of reducing debt as a percentage of GDP, the obvious one, taxation adequate to cover your spending.

I just listened to John Boehner’s speech on CNN.
I wish he would be more specific.  He said, “Americans do not want their taxes to be raised.” I would like to know “Which Americans” he
was referring to.  His generality was good politics
when you consider he scared senior citizens living
on a Social Security check.  He picked up a few votes.  However, I would bet a dollar to a donut he
was referring to the wealthy super-rich when he made
the statement.  The Republician arugment that the wealthy super-rich will invest in jobs to improve
the economy leaves a lot to be desired since their
taxes have been lowered for years and yet the economy has not improved.  When will we hear something of substance coming from Washington?

At this point, I say call the bluff of the domestic terrorists who call themselves Republicans.

As everyone knows, including the radical Republicans who are holding a gun to our temple, the angst of debate over the debt ceiling is totally unnecessary. Furthermore, President Obama has no authorization to give up our wealth and our livelihood to these domestic terrorists.

As a last resort, many say, including former President Bill Clinton, that the 14th Amendment allows Obama to raise the debt ceiling, himself, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law… shall not be questioned.”

Constitutional experts believe that this has to be a last resort, but for a last resort, August 2nd is too late. Moody’s Investors Service said last week that it has put the U.S. government’s top-notch credit rating on review for a possible downgrade because of the risk of not raising the debt ceiling.

We are willing to undergo a likely second dip of the recession and a possible global depression because of a few radical ideologues and a growing following of radicalized cynics who happened to be elected to Congress?

The prevailing intransigence and irreconcilability over raising the debt ceiling is but one example that makes it foreseeable that the U.S. may break up into two or more new nations that take more or less opposing positions regarding science vs. religion, Keynesian economics vs. Austrian economics, and social liberalism vs. authoritarianism.

I voted for a Democrat for the White House. Instead I got Obama.
We need a Democratic primary challenger to him for 2012. If he can’t retain the nomination then good riddance.
I’d like to see this next election change he can believe in.

Compromise is overrated, and I’m happy to finally see an article that explores
the outcomes of compromise.  The president’s video on the white house web
site is sad; it promotes compromise and discards principles.  WTF???

Democrats who vote for SS/Med cuts will lose their jobs. SS has not contributed
to any deficit and Medicare is only costly because the problem of profiteering in
health care has not been addressed. 

We have a deficit because of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and Endless Wars.
Start there.

Bernie Sanders advised today on Thom Hartmann to primary Obama and find a
true progressive candidate to at least force a debate on issues and principles
that Obama himself campaigned on.  Talk about bait and switch.

The political impasse over the national debt is helping to solve U.S.A.‘s legitimacy
problem. Why lament it?
The U.S. lost legitimacy when it sundered the Nuremberg Principles and the UN
Charter, when it embraced torture as a national policy, and when its banks
maimed the world economy. With luck, Uncle Sam will default on his financial
obligations, his global military empire will crash and burn, and a new set of
principles will come to govern the territory now occupied by the 50 U.S. states.
Tea-Par-Tee! Tea-Par-Tee! Tea-Par-Tee!

i am doubtful that there is an disagreement or incompatibility
between u.s politicians on nature of u.s system of governance, and
intention of u.s constitution.

i suggest there is 100% of agreement among u.s politicians on
sanctity of u.s constitution and the governance that is based on it.

nor do u i believe for a second that said governance is influenced to a
sufficient degree by what an overwhelming number of americans
think/say and nor do they interpret the ‘holy’ constitution.

u.s politicos have selves spilled the beans: we are a nation of laws;
i.e., we are governed solely by laws.
one can thus talk, protest/march, suggest changes, etc., but nothing
ever changes unless a law agrees with a change.

in fact, the more protesting/marching since seventies against u.s
wars, the more wars u.s wages.
now more people lose homes than ever; there is more unemployment
than ever.
more people lose homes and there are more billionaires and
multimillionaires than ever.

and this never stops. in fact, it will get worse and/or better for some
people; just as system of rule demands it! tnx

“And now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin’ retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin’ place.”

- George Carlin

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/by-the-balls/

Doesn’t matter. Obama’s about to cave yet again, and call it “compromising”. All the Re-thugs need is 4 turn-coat DINO senators and they have 51 votes.  Who will it be? Who will betray the party and the People?  Will it be Mary Landrieu? Ben Nelson? James Webb? Max Baucus? The other Ben Nelson? Jay Rockefeller? Lautenberg?
Who?
If Obama succeeds in his sell-out deal with Boehner and McConnell, all McConnell needs is 4 turn-coats…and there are just SO MANY of them ready and waiting in the Senate Democratic Caucus!