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Posted on Jul 5, 2010
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From left, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio, and Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana meet with members of the press on Capitol Hill on April 14.

By Bill Boyarsky

Death wish isn’t too extreme a phrase to describe the Republicans’ recent conduct.

What else could explain their behavior this summer? They started out with many electoral advantages. The Afghanistan quagmire, the currently unstoppable Gulf oil disaster and intractable unemployment buffet President Barack Obama.

Even Republican whining about the deficit seems to have caught on. And an influential subset of liberal Democrats is complaining about the president.

Apparently determined to kick away these blessings, the Republicans are—happily for the country—on an amazingly self-destructive course of trying to destroy what’s left of our safety net.

A couple of instances are well known. Rep. Joe Barton called President Obama’s wresting $20 billion in cleanup funds from BP a “shakedown.” This has drawn thousands of viewers on YouTube and is becoming a staple of Democratic campaigns. Then House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner said that the pending financial regulation legislation was like “killing an ant with a nuclear weapon.” His remark gave Obama a chance to cut him up in a speech last week in Racine, Wis.:

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“He compared the financial crisis to an ant. This is the same financial crisis that led to the loss of nearly 8 million jobs. The same crisis that cost people their homes, their life savings. … Do you think that the financial crisis was an ant and we just needed a little ant swatter to fix this thing? Or do you think that we need to restructure how we regulate the financial system so you aren’t on the hook again and we don’t have this kind of crisis again?”

Ridicule is a deadly weapon, especially against Washingtonians perceived to be losing power—politicians such as the right-wing Boehner having to fight off younger and more activist members of his caucus. Joe Scarborough, the former Republican congressman from Florida, really knifed the Republican leader on his MSNBC “Morning Joe” show: “ I hear it on the Hill, it’s not reported, Republicans tell me this is a guy who is not the hardest worker in the world after 5 o’clock, 6 o’clock … you can see him at the bars. He’s not a hard worker.”

Health reform provides an even better example of Republican wrongheadedness.

Last Thursday marked the beginning of the health reform law’s new insurance programs aimed at covering those who have been denied insurance because they have pre-existing conditions. This $5 billion program is designed to be a bridge between now and 2014, when insurance companies will be required to cover everybody regardless of past medical conditions. You are eligible for this bridge program if you have been without insurance for six months because of a pre-existing condition.

It will be an immense improvement in the lives of thousands now denied insurance. A new federal website has a link for signing up for these policies, as well as for getting information about the reform law.

The Obama administration proposed that health insurers issue these policies through state pools. But actually the idea came from Republicans who objected to federal control. Yet when the program began last Thursday, 21 states, most of them run by Republicans, refused to take part, which means the federal government will have to step in and operate these programs within the state.

That was just another case of blind Republican opposition to any provision of the health reform bill. Many of these Republican states are going to court to have the main features of the entire health reform bill thrown out. This is in line with the just-say-no attitude of Republicans during the health insurance debate in Congress. 

Throughout the debate, they said voters were behind them, but that may not be true. A Kaiser Family Foundation poll reported that Americans now have a favorable view of the plan, by 48 percent to 41 percent. That’s a change from the previous month, when 44 percent viewed health reform negatively while 41 percent had a positive view.

In the intervening time, the administration has been strongly publicizing the reform’s benefits, including the new pre-existing coverage benefits.

It is mailing out $250 checks to Medicare recipients who have hit the “doughnut hole” in drug cost coverage, the point where Medicare stops covering drugs but before catastrophic coverage kicks in. 

In another benefit, young people under 26 years old can now remain on their parents’ health insurance policies.

And $5 billion in federal subsidies will go to employers or insurance companies to continue coverage for workers who retired early—willingly or unwillingly—and who are 55 and older but not yet eligible for Medicare. How many people do you know who have been forcibly retired by downsizing companies and have either been left without insurance or confronted with premiums too expensive to pay?

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee is targeting Republican candidates who favor repeal of the law, which was a Republican promise after it passed. The Kaiser poll showed that just 6 percent of those surveyed favored repeal.

The Republicans are out of touch. With right-wing, tea-partying candidates winning primaries, they have convinced themselves they are riding a wave of blind anti-government sentiment, the tea party line. This is perfectly expressed by Rep. Barton accusing Obama of shaking down BP and Rep. Boehner comparing the economic collapse to an ant.

Thanks to them and their kind, the Democrats could have a surprisingly happy election day in November.


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By PatrickHenry, July 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

Roy, I am an American of Norweigan heritage, but an American none the less. 

So Israel’s kicking ass and taking names, it’s plain to see where your loyalties lie.  Your post suggests Israel’s penchant for threatening all its neighbors is somehow justified given its implied use of nuclear weapons to counter their neighbors growing defences against first use of those weapons.

Given the proximity of the the targets of Israels weapons it is the Israelis themselves who will suffer fallout, radioactive and political if they follow through with their threats.

BTW, Roy I believe the bible is no more than a history text written by the tribes to enhance their political agendas at the time.  Go back to watching the “B’ movies you cited, they have more content.

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By ardee, July 9, 2010 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment

y the waiver, July 9 at 1:26 pm #

I would love to respond to this response..winkbut it seems just so much gobbledeegook to me, sorry.

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By DancesWithFascists, July 9, 2010 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment
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Let’s hope Bill Boyarsky is right and that Americans have finally learned the GOP isn’t out for their interests but for their special interests the war profiteers and bloodsucking capitalists.  That’s all they care about and regular Americans can go to Hell as far as the GOP is concerned.

I had long ago figured Boehner to be an alcoholic and the news that he hits the bars by 5 or 6 pm every day is no surprise.  The scariest Repug though is that Mike Pence character, with eyes like a serial killer.  He never smiles, never.  I don’t think he’d know what a conscience was if one hit him over the head.  We ought to have some way of prequalifying the people we put up for election so that we can’t ever get soulless psychopaths in office like Pence and Boehner and the rest of the GOP.

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By call me roy, July 9, 2010 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

PatrickHenry, you are obviously a mulim nut or a radical muslim nut, but never an Indepedent. Israel is not building houses on other peoples land, they are kicking a*s and taking names. As soon as the time is right, they are going to turn Iran and Syria into the most radioactive parking lot in the galaxy.
When Israel had learned that Syria has supplied Hezbollah in Lebanon with advanced anti-aircraft systems and long-range missiles. It’s also reported that they’ve been given SCUD missiles like Saddam Hussein used against Coalition forces during the Gulf War. These missiles put virtually all of Israel within Hezbollah’s range now. Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak believes that Hezbollah may have 40,000 missiles ready for use against Israel. Unfortunately, neither the White House nor the State Department believes it.
Nonetheless, Israel has put Syria on notice. The London Sunday Times is reporting that Israel sent a message to Syria. The message warned that Israel now views Hezbollah as a division of the Syrian military. If Hezbollah attacks, Israel will retaliate against Syria. Earlier, Israel’s Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman announced that “if war breaks out, the Assad dynasty will lose its power and cease to reign in Syria.” Another Cabinet minister put it more bluntly. He said, “We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age….” That sounds very familiar, doesn’t it? The prophet Isaiah said essentially the same thing. Different verbiage, same result.
By the way, PatrickHenry, Isaiah is from the bible. Isaiah predicts that Damascus will be obliterated in the first of two ‘last days’ wars.
Lastly, Israel isn’t worried about Pakistan. Pakistan has it’s own problems, India, US, etc.
Have a nice day

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By the waiver, July 9, 2010 at 9:33 am Link to this comment

To Ardee, a correction—the health care reform bill affects 308,558 million Americans.

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By the waiver, July 9, 2010 at 9:26 am Link to this comment

To Ardee who responded to my “YES WE CAN THEME” of the Dems!  I want to address the part about the Guiness Book record for the most doublespeak in a single post this offering of “the waiver” must be in the running…YOU NEED TO GET THE GUINESS BOOK OF RECORDS FOR 2010-I HAVE WON!  It is a great honor!

On the health care reform bill—-NOT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT—WHY—BECAUSE NOT ONE MEMBER OF CONGRESS HAD READ THE 2,200 PAGE BILL—PELOSI SAID: “Pass this bill and we will do the fixes later”.  The Democrats don’t bother with writing a completed bill—then voting on it—no Democrats want to write the bill as throughout the year!  This is very sound practice for any business—especially the Govt who passed a bill affecting 308,558 people in America! Leaving out 20 million—and how the health care reform will affect the illegals—will be written on a case by case situation!

As the budget crunch comes down the pike—the financial institutions too big to fail will consume the smaller banks and make them merge with another bank too big to fail! Controlling your money—not allowing you to determine what bank you will have your accounts—too much RISK for the Americans to decide for themselves! These are the facts—heard on CNN—and Fox News!

The deficit now is over $14.5 trillion dollars!

This is the synopsis of America- 9.2 million Americans living on unemployment!
2.14 million out of work Americans lost their
unemployment benefit checks.
3.2 million Americans will lose their benefits by
the end of July!

The Gulf Coast (along with environmentalists saying—OIL IS NOT IN AMERICA’S FUTURE) then we hear about the Oil Rig Explosion! The biggest oil catastrophe in the World! 

13 Countries within the first few days offered their assistance—offered their ships-skimmers and anything else which would help keep the oil contained and possibly preventing more oil on the shores of our beaches—-OUR GOVT TURNED DOWN EVERY COUNTRY—REFUSED TO LIFT THE JONES ACT (at least Pres. Bush did it after Katrina)—-the S Korean Ship named the WHALER was sent and was forced to park at Norfolk==until this Govt could decide whether or not to allow this ship in the Gulf—a ship that could catch at least 1/2 million barrels of oil in 10 hours-OBAMA SAID NO—UNTIL JUST A FEW DAYS AGO—NOW IT IS IN THE GULF—THIS SHIP COULD HAVE SAVED AND SPARED THE LIVELIHOOD of many fishermen—So for 74 days into the oil spill—with the first hurricane-OBAMA DECIDES THIS SHIP CAN GO INTO THE GULF—

For 17 months Obama has spent-spent-spent-created more Govt jobs than in the private sector—

You mentioned President Clinton—yes he did balance the budget—yes he did encourage lenders to loan monies to individuals who didn’t qualify for those loans causing the housing market to collapse in 2007-2009!  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are getting special treatment from this Govt because these 2 financial institutions will not have to conform into the new financial reform.  Therefore leaving 2 lenders out of the picture because of one of the Senators being married to the former CEO!

It is my God-given right to state what I have seen—experienced and believe in with my whole heart!

Your view has been hostile toward my opinion.  Time will tell which one is right—which one was wrong!

I am almost like the Iranian leader who addressed the UN a few months back—HE PRAYED BEFORE THE ENTIRE UN TO HIS ALLAH FOR HIS RETURN TO BE SWIFT—TO TAKE WHAT IS WRONG—AND MAKE IT RIGHT!

My prayer to “MY GOD” is grant us grace and mercy-we the people of America have scattered the truth so far—we don’t recognize it when we do see it!

God bless!

Ardee (I hope the American people will start liking and respecting others views and their philosophies without hostility!

 


I hear your anger—

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By Leefeller, July 9, 2010 at 7:57 am Link to this comment

The GOP attempting to dump Steel seems to make sense for the party of nonsense, even if Steel agrees 100 percent with demented GOP prodigal illogic, the GOP must feel uncomfortable with him attending their KKK meetings, and what do you suppose they feel every time their is a photo opportunity with Steel in the middle? 

Funny, it would be if Steel turned out to be Gay!

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By Money is funny, July 8, 2010 at 11:20 pm Link to this comment

Greetings earthlings!

I am from the planet Nebutaranus.

You can’t fool me

I am fully aware of the fact that your suggested “reality” is just an illusion. I am currently institutionalized in a hospital and all of the words written here are just the voices in my head.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 8, 2010 at 9:41 pm Link to this comment

I sometimes wonder what planets ALL the posters in this thread are from (except, of course, LeeFeller—too brilliant and too funny!).  Actually, I wonder what plane of “reality” they are from.

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By PatrickHenry, July 8, 2010 at 5:43 pm Link to this comment

Roy you are obviously a religious nut and watch alot of “B” movies.  A candidate for something a little more than anger management.

Israel is building houses on other peoples land and the muslims (persians) are going to build a nuke to defend themselves from threats of a pre-emptive attack from Israel, who sells them weapons, buys their oil and still makes threats on Iran every day.

I’m suprised Israel is silent on Pakistan which is muslim, has nukes and is Not a Friend Of Israel.

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By call me roy, July 8, 2010 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

PatrickHenry

Say, are you one of those movie stars who played the terrorist parts in the “True Lies” movie. Your speech betrays you. Oh wait, maybe it was the movie “Black Sunday.” Or was it “A Son of the Sahara” or “The Black Stallion”, or maybe “Iron Eagle” or “Death Before Dishonor” or “Navy SEALs” or I know it’s “The Delta Force” or “Patriot Games” or could it be “Executive Decision” or many peoples favorite “Reel Bad Arabs.” Gee, there are so many to pick from. Anyway, you go out and rent these and I am sure you will enjoy watching yourself. If you find that these movies have helped you in any way, please, for your own sake, go see if you can get some anger management help. There is help out there.
Also, the famous author Joel Richardson breaks new ground with a devastating account of the possible connection between the Biblical Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi. The Bible predicts that in the last days a charismatic leader will establish a global following in the name of peace. The Quran also predicts that a man will rise up to lead the nations, pledging to usher in an era of peace. The man in the Quran is called the Mahdi, or Islam’s savior. However, the man in the Bible is the Antichrist. Could it be possible that they are one and the same person? Richardson’s stunning research and analysis suggest that it is.
Hey, I would recommend that you put this on your reading list, it could open some eyes?

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By call me roy, July 8, 2010 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

Barry Hussein apparently did teach a few “constitutional law” courses at the Univ of Chicago, but to call him a professor is a stretch. Professor is a very specific term that implies a certain scholarly contribution to the body of knowledge. Except for his two memoirs (which I would still bet were written by Bill Ayres), he has ZERO, NONE, NADA, ZIP publications of any kind. That includes the Harvard Law Review where he was the Editor! He was at best an “Instructor”. And I’m guessing that all he did was essentially run ACORN seminars under the guise of “The Constitution.”

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By PatrickHenry, July 8, 2010 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment

Roy, its good to know there is an agency in the U.S. government where Jewish zionists aren’t calling the shots. 

I’m sure a whisper and whining campaign has commensed on behalf of all those Israel lobbyists and their supporters in our media and government.

Al Qaeda is at NASA and they don’t like Jews.

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By call me roy, July 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm Link to this comment

Off the rails maybe but:
Surely something must be terribly wrong with a man who seems to be far more concerned with Jews building houses in Israel than with Muslims building a nuclear bomb in Iran.”

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By call me roy, July 8, 2010 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment

The Republicans has gone off the rails but Barry Hussein President is turning NASA into his Muslim-outreach agency. NASA Administrator Charles Bolden says that NASA’s foremost mission in 2010 is to improve relations with the Muslim world. What? Pause. Re-read. Pause. Huh? Yes. Re-read again. What? Instead of following the Kennedy mold of inspiring a nation by putting a man on the moon within a decade, perhaps President Obama can ask Americans to figure out how to avoid “slipping the surly bonds of earth” via the next suicide bomber?
Many in Washington are asking: This mandate from Obama is so stunningly lacking in sensibility it borders on impeachability for being stupid? But don’t blame Administrator Bolden, this is becoming typical for Comrade Obama’s apppointees. They are clueless & incompetent. But they just take orders from the top. No wonder everyone at work is walking around mumbling: Oh my God, he is a muslim.

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By tropicgirl, July 8, 2010 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment

Bill, the Neocons and the NeoLibs are part of the same SHOW.

Why don’t you start realizing the real problems instead of dancing with the
performing animals?

The Republicans are getting THE MOST SYMPATHY from the American people and
O-King of False Choices, and the party, are SEEN AS DISHONEST LIARS.

This is getting old, tired, and really, really boring.

The Obama-Crats are doing more to harm this country than anyone else and we
all know it. And that is a really sad statement, given the failure of the
Republicans/

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By samosamo, July 8, 2010 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

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I still don’t see where the people will NOT have to pay a monthly
stipend to a private insurance company. I would much rather pay
into a government ONLY program for health care. NO MORE
CORPORATE WELFARE!!!!

Besides, what is going to happen to the money I have paid into
social security and medicare for so long?

A vote for democrats is a vote for republican and a vote for
republican is a vote for democrat.

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By Leefeller, July 8, 2010 at 7:56 am Link to this comment

Difference between the Democrats and the Republicans seems little, for they both tend to propagate the same crap in the end, sleeping with the lobbyists and special interests, while turning their noses up at the masses.

Lets see, they vote for something hoping it will not pass or they do not vote for something hoping it will pass, Hilliary Clinton said something like this once during the campaign. 

Now if all congress works like this what we see is what we get a whole lot of nothing.

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By ardee, July 8, 2010 at 5:04 am Link to this comment

the waiver, July 7 at 8:33 pm #

If there is a Guiness Book record for the most doublespeak in a single post this offering of “the waiver” must be in the running…


The famous logo of the Democratic Party was:  ‘YES WE CAN’—-every American is entitled to have medical insurance—-
BILL PASSED—LEFT OUT 30 MILLION PEOPLE—Who are the 30 million—we won’t find out until 2013!

Yup, a flawed bill to be certain, one that ensures the profitability of the Insurance industry and does only a bit to include the folks currently without health care, including some 20 million formerly sans care.

Yet your beloved GOP was certainly at least partially responsible for the flaws in that bill, as are the corporatists in the Democratic Party…The GOP is certainly the party of NO, no suggestions, no plans, no cooperation, no nothing..who you zooming anyway?

YES WE CAN—CHANGE AMERICA—TAKE OVER THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS (except for Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac)—NATIONALIZE AUTO INDUSTRY-MAKE CHRYSLER TO SELL TO FIAT—

...and your alternative is….? To even hint at the idea that our govt has taken over the financial community is so ludicrous as to be eligible for The Colbert Report..the T of course is silent as is your obvious lack of ideas and ,possibly, ideals….

YES WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT BANKS ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL—and those too SMALL TO STAY IN BUSINESS!  Yes WE CAN take OVER YOUR BANK—YOUR LOANS—YOUR SECURED COLLATERAL FOR THOSE LOANS—AND PLACE THEM IN THE BANK OF OUR CHOICE!

Say what? Perhaps on your home planet this actually happened, but it didnt happen here…sorry for your world though.

60 Minutes 09-13-09—OBAMA SAID—ONCE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM IS PASSED—-I WILL OWN IT!

The person I select to oversee MEDICARE—MEDICAID—CAN AND WILL BE DONE WITHOUT CONGRESS!

Both of these out of context and clumsy attempts are unworthy of comment, excepting of course to remind you that your fantasy hero, George W., made similar recess appointments as well. If the GOP in Congress had not blocked sans cause so many Obama appointees p[erhaps said recess appointments would be unnecesary.

A Congress who doesn’t do their checks and balances of our President—the laws of our Constitution—and prefer underhanded deals behind closed doors—are cheap and they don’t need to be in Congress—-

Yup, just like the Bush Congress as well….a serious flaw.

I am a Republican—but I have voted Democratic before—but NEVER AGAIN!  The Deficit today is now going toward $14.5 trillion dollars—-I will not vote for the party but for the person who can keep America with all her rights—and freedoms—nothing less is acceptable!

Ronnie Raygun broke the record for the largest deficit in US history, and, after Clinton balanced the budget ( partially on the backs of the Welfare folks) Georgie broke Ronnies record…Obama, of whom I am no defender certainly inherited Bushs’ 12 trillion deficit…Again, I defend only the truth here and not the Dems or Obama or our failing system. A real shame you have such little respect for truth.

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By FiftyGigs, July 8, 2010 at 4:58 am Link to this comment

The Republican Party is a fundamentally immoral
political movement, designed to advance the
conservative agenda of rule by oligarchy.

Its denunciation of liberalism—i.e. the foundation
of the United States of America whereby everyone is
equal and born with inalienable rights—is matched
only by its disregard for religion.

The moral code of the Republican Party is based on
capitalistic utilitarianism, meaning morality is
simply determined by the accumulation of possessions
gained by any means. Value is ascribed to the
increasing rate of acquisition.

Nothing else matters to Republicans, least of all,
you.

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By Money is funny, July 8, 2010 at 12:37 am Link to this comment

Hey,

Let’s give the three stooges shown above a colonoscopy (minus Anesthetic, because their pharmaceutical friends charge too much) once a week.

At the end of it we will tell them what they already know.

That is change I can believe in!

Republicans sodomized by robots for no legitimate reason like the rest of us!

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By galaxy1965, July 7, 2010 at 9:02 pm Link to this comment
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I think you underestimate the stupidity of the American people as a group.  Borrowing from the movie Men in Black “A person is smart; people are dumb panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”  Apparently we think that all the problems that were inhereted by the Obama adminsistration can be solved over night.  So in our frustration we are going to put back in power the same people who put us in this mess in the first place.  I would really like to hear a real plan for all these problems from republicans instead of bumper sticker slogans.  I’m not going to hold my breath.

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By berniem, July 7, 2010 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

Please, instead of constantly relating the most recent spewing of bile and certain retort by the members of our marvelous 2-party cabal, can’t we start proffering ideas and suggestions from one or another of those ignored 3rd, 4th, or what have you parties so that we can ponder new proposals or directions instead of bearing witness to the endless schoolyard bickering that is foisted as debate who’s only purpose is to divert, divide, and confuse the citizenry? As it currently stands, neither party seems capable or desirous of actually doing anything to save the nation but rather are bent on protecting entrenched wealth and their individual power and re-elction chances. If active resistance to our corrupt government is unrealitic and unwise perhaps universal passive/aggressiveness, whereby we Americans simply ignore whatever these people do enmass, and actually start to be responsible for ourselves, will leave those pompous and arrogant buffoons with no base of support. Can they really imprison everybody and still fund their lunatic games?

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By raykeith7, July 7, 2010 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment

‘Death Wish’ is what will most likely follow certain republicans, especially holding up unemployment extensions. If your family is looking at losing their home & taking up residence in a tent- why not take out a few & deliver those ‘heady rep’s’ a strong message & watch those phony’s do a 180 degree flip, I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already?
A few dead republicans is a good start!

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By the waiver, July 7, 2010 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

The famous logo of the Democratic Party was:  ‘YES WE CAN’—-every American is entitled to have medical insurance—-
BILL PASSED—LEFT OUT 30 MILLION PEOPLE—Who are the 30 million—we won’t find out until 2013!

YES WE CAN—CHANGE AMERICA—TAKE OVER THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS (except for Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac)—NATIONALIZE AUTO INDUSTRY-MAKE CHRYSLER TO SELL TO FIAT—

YES WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT BANKS ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL—and those too SMALL TO STAY IN BUSINESS!  Yes WE CAN take OVER YOUR BANK—YOUR LOANS—YOUR SECURED COLLATERAL FOR THOSE LOANS—AND PLACE THEM IN THE BANK OF OUR CHOICE!

60 Minutes 09-13-09—OBAMA SAID—ONCE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM IS PASSED—-I WILL OWN IT!

The person I select to oversee MEDICARE—MEDICAID—CAN AND WILL BE DONE WITHOUT CONGRESS!

A Congress who doesn’t do their checks and balances of our President—the laws of our Constitution—and prefer underhanded deals behind closed doors—are cheap and they don’t need to be in Congress—-

I am a Republican—but I have voted Democratic before—but NEVER AGAIN!  The Deficit today is now going toward $14.5 trillion dollars—-I will not vote for the party but for the person who can keep America with all her rights—and freedoms—nothing less is acceptable!

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By sharonsj, July 7, 2010 at 2:58 pm Link to this comment
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I loathe the Republicans and despise the Democrats.  Yet I remain a Democrat and will go out in 2010 and vote for these lying bastards anyway.  I have no choice.  The Republican candidates are so crazy, that if more of them get in office, there is no hope whatsoever—there will only be revolution left as a choice.  Though, come to think of it, that might not be so bad.

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By mdgr, July 7, 2010 at 12:26 pm Link to this comment

Well, I disagree with the last point made in Mr. Worm’s otherwise on-point post. We do not need to save the Democratic Party’s soul. We do not need a new and revised (v. 6) Democratic Party.

It’s that notion that keeps the progressive movement tied to the game. Saving the Democratic Party’s soul may be Kucinich’s style, but it certainly isn’t mine.

The progressive community needs to dump the Democratic Party entirely.

My post earlier in this thread elaborates that on point….

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By Aarky, July 7, 2010 at 10:31 am Link to this comment
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The Worm said it so well in his post and South Texas summed it up in the second from last paragraph of his post. My thought is that a lot of very PO’d Democrats won’t go to the polls come November. Obama was given a legislative 2x4 in 2008 and he has blown it badly. When I heard Senator Harkin of Iowa say during the phony health care reform bill, “We will have to do these reforms incrementally”, I wanted to choke him out. My answer to him and the Obama team would have been,“WTF are you talking about?? You have a majority in both houses of Congress and also a Democratic President. If you are unwilling to do it now, it won’t get done”. Too much of the talk was political theater and the Democratic votors have noticed, BIG TIME.

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By Lightning John, July 7, 2010 at 9:58 am Link to this comment
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I propose a new party named the, USP, or the un-holy
sinners party.

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By AmiBlue, July 7, 2010 at 8:23 am Link to this comment

You left one factor out of the equation: the *real* Americans who fall for every worm the cons put on their hook.  That makes the gopers death defying stunt men (and women) rather than a party in a death spiral.

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By Richard_Ralph_Roehl, July 6, 2010 at 9:12 pm Link to this comment

I have to hold my nose when ALLEGED-LIE voting for a Democrat-rat candidate (a.k.a.: the Repub-lie-con Lites).

I say ALLEGED-LIE… because I live in the bankrupt $tate of Flordi-duh, land of the four ‘Fs’: Flamingos… Footballing Phanatics… Flim-Flam $cams… and voter Fraud. There’s nothing more corrupt than the obsequiesce turds squatting their $hit in the Flori-duh $tate Capitalist building in Tall-ahh-ass-see.

Bad ass it might be to vote for the lousy Democrat-rats, any common man on Main-$treet who votes for a Repub-lie-con is voting for $omebody to cut his throat.

And let me add here… if you (thinking like a ewe person) voted for President Dick Cheney and the dry drunk $ociopath known as Bush the Lessor, then you/ewe are a god damn traitor!

You are a traitor to democratic principles and free market ideals. Corp-rat entitiies are NOT about free markets, $tewepid! You/ewe are also a traitor to the common wealth and common sense. Yesss… you/ewe are a god damn traitor.

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By the worm, July 6, 2010 at 8:34 pm Link to this comment

Here’s the Democrats’ ‘death wish’, all laid out in policy, decisions and practice
for the entire voting populace to see:

They advertised ‘change you can believe in’, then stayed with the status quo in
the financial bailout and Afghanistan (the two biggest issues of the day); thus,
they alienated their base.

They ‘compromised away’ the ‘stimulus’ (criticized at the time as ‘less than half
of what is needed); thus, they alienated working people who had been willing to
take a chance on them.

They failed to even pretend to be ‘real change’; thus, they alienated first-time
voters who came out and supported them (think ‘transparency’, ‘visibility’,
‘leadership’, etc).

Hoping to hide in the shadows and get a pass, they failed to step forward on
immigrant rights and gay rights; thus, they alienated various minorities by not
supporting their rights vigorously.

In the name of ‘bi-partisanship’, they devoted only half-hearted efforts to
closing Guantanamo and trying illegally held prisoners in civilian courts - plus,
kept ‘extraordinary rendition’ and other illegal practices as US policy; thus, they
alienated more principled voters (because they either ignored or endorsed
previous Republican profligacy, crimes, misdemeanors).

They went into months of ‘reflection and analysis’ only to come out and escalate
a meaningless and fruitless war in Afghanistan; thus, alienating themselves
from all but the loonatic fringe.

They couldnt even get behind real financial reform and gutted or deleted all
significant reform measures (no Glass-Steagle, no ‘too big too fail); thus,
alienating themselves from any thinking person who still believed government
could act in the best interests of the people.

They continue to fiddle around & not pass a jobs bill and now cant pass an
extension of unemployment insurance; confirming money spent by the
Democrats on financial bailouts and mindless wars is fine , but money spent by
Democrats on people is ‘budget busting’ and, thus, alienating most everyone
(except Fox news viewers - whom I dont think will vote for them anyway).

The kept hostage real health care reform by rejecting the only option that
would have simultaneously extended coverage and cut costs (single payer);
creating years of court challenges, keeping health care costly (80-85% of your
premium goes to things other than providing health care services), and, thus,
alienating most informed voters (who needs ‘em, eh!).

Their wishy-washy, non-reforms, they’ve squandered the ‘willing suspension of
disbelief’ that independents and some Republicans had bestowed on them.
And alienated their base.

The problem is not that there needs to be more ‘bi-partisanship’.
The problem is that their needs to be a Democratic Party, and there isnt one.
It is a ghost of its former self - for intents and purposes, the Democratic Party
is dead - not because of a ‘death wish’, because of suicide.

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By mdgr, July 6, 2010 at 4:46 pm Link to this comment

And since flashbacks are in vogue (“lesser of two evils” argument, indeed), I also agree with G.Anderson’s recent post, as attached to this thread. Succinct and very nicely said. 

So when is “Truthdig” going to bring out of that tired old box and begin to serve as a focal point for the creation of a **real** third party, not a 4% party but one that has the gravitas to prevent someone like Palin (or Beck, et al) from getting the access codes to the nuclear football in 2012?

Isn’t that kind of important?

I’m tired of hearing ridicule and kvetching from the left. That’s what operators like Rove are counting on the day before the election. We could be very deflated the day after, and there would be no reprieve.

Instead of scratching our butts and doing what Democrats do all the time, wouldn’t it be nice to ride the wave in (public anger and disillusionment) and simultaneously create a “monster third party” while yet driving a wooden stake through the DNC’s heart?”

Am I the only one who is calling on progressive internet groups to host such a focal point? Thus far, Buzzflash only shrugged his shoulders. What about Truthdig? If people really want that sort of thing, they need to ask for it and loudly.

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By mdgr, July 6, 2010 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment

Agree with Tobysgirl.

Bill Boyarksky has been a stealth apologist for the DNC for a long time. In his latest post, he trots out the same old “lesser of the evils” argument, and if it were scripted by Rahm Emanuel (operator in chief) himself.

Never are progressives invited to jettison both parties, and create the kind of **monster** third party that the times would support right now. Instead, we are led by the nose back into the DNC’s favorite stomping ground, imagining we would get our jollies from a GOP defeat.

There is no way I’d vote for another Democrat ever again. Anyone progressive Senator/Representative with cajones would need to publicly repudiate and resign from that party in order to get my vote. I hate the GOP, but after Obama, I’ve come to despise the Dems absolutely.

Despite Boyarsky’s little riff which plays on an old school triangulation strategy, that will be reflected in the voting booth come November.

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By Paul_GA, July 6, 2010 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment

Mr. Freeze, I voted in the 2008 Georgia Repub primary, mainly because I liked (and still like) Ron Paul—in that case, it’s voting for the man, not his party. In the actual election, I voted for the LP (Bob Barr), but if Cynthia McKinney had been on the Georgia ballot, I’d have voted Green.

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By mike112769, July 6, 2010 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment

ED SASHA: It’s been Obama’s war for a while now. He has had plenty of time to pull out, but has instead increased the number of troops. How is it not his war?

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By Tobysgirl, July 6, 2010 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment

I can think of one instance in which I would have voted Republican and hoped my dead mother wouldn’t come back to haunt me: William Weld vs John Silber.

I did not vote for Obama (voted for McKinney). He did not hide what he stood for when he was running, and I have little sympathy for people who say they are antiwar or progressive who voted for him. I now feel about him as I felt about GWB: When his face or voice come on the TV or radio, off it goes. Cutting Social Security, privatizing the schools and cutting aid to poor districts, swelling the war machine, polluting the entire planet, what further outrages will this man perpetrate for his corporate masters? I once was reluctant to criticize him due to his brown skin and the hate that has engendered, but he is the first brown person I will forcefully call a racist. I thought he was a weakling and a person with no sense of history prior to his election; now I just think he is an unbelievable whore.

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By PatrickHenry, July 6, 2010 at 2:19 pm Link to this comment

mrfreeze,  I switched from Independent to Republican in the last election so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primary.  He didn’t make it nor did Kucinich, both of whom would have been my choices.

I wrote Kucinich in for the general election.

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By mrfreeze, July 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

May I ask: How is it that anyone with one nano-shred of common sense could ever vote for Republicans? Besides the mantra of small government and low taxes, do Republicans “believe” in anything? It’s as if they are inherently anti-American rather than guardians of our “way of life” (whatever the hell that is).

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, July 6, 2010 at 11:14 am Link to this comment

Golly, I wish I could be a plutocrat!  I’d be a fashion tyrant like Paris Hilton.  I’d buy outrageous outfits for my chihuahua while homeless losers stared hungrily at the designer dog food on display in window of the pet boutique—$14.00/3 ounce can. 

“So gross!  Why can’t they like go somewhere else and look hungry?”

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By enorceht, July 6, 2010 at 11:01 am Link to this comment
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The GOP Goes Off the Rails

i don’t understand how the gop can go ‘off the rails’ when they were never ‘on the rails’

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By felicity, July 6, 2010 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

Some Republican senators have indeed shed their “Senator Fog Horn Leghorn” image (in the popular lexicon a number of years ago when people weren’t afraid to tell it like it is) in favor of being called hoaxes - actually working long and hard to apparently earn the title. 

Doesn’t give me a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that the quality, and perhaps quantity, of my life rests on the decisions of ‘hoaxes.’

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By Paul_GA, July 6, 2010 at 10:44 am Link to this comment

I despise both wings of the War Party, but the Repubs I despise the most (being a former, now disillusioned, conservative Repub myself), and I hope in their case that they demonstrate soon what John Arbuthnot said about three centuries ago: “All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.”

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By balkas, July 6, 2010 at 9:19 am Link to this comment

Why have two reps or two agents,when u can have one rep or one agent and call it two agents or reps?
Plutocrats or people who own 98% of america rule america.
Nominally, the people who run america cld have 10 or one party, it still wld not make any difference.

In fact some dems are more to the Right than repubs and vice-versa.
There is enough confusion even in WH let alone the congress to confuse the public ab everythin but particularly the truth.

Uncle sam got it made in shade. Whenever he needs a war, he just lifts one finger and the ‘quarreling’ pols shut up instantly.tnx

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By Leefeller, July 6, 2010 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

This good cop bad cop crap gets mighty old, after forever.

The only difference between the two parties is (as I stated before) the Democrats are Republicans with filters on, it just takes longer to see through the smoke!

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By G.Anderson, July 6, 2010 at 7:04 am Link to this comment

Yes, that’s right Republicans create victims, but the Democrats exploit them. They create institutions that exploit the victimization of people for generation after generation.

Instead of resolving the issues that created that victimization. Together we kick the can down the road.

Together it’s a symbiotic relationship, that’s destroying this country piece by piece.

Let’s extend unemployment benefits permanently, instead of making the export of jobs out of this country illegal.

Yes, lets extend health insurance, so we can take care of the people who are poisoned, by unsafe food, water, drugs.

So they can be treated, by unsafe drugs, and medical practises, that we allow because they are highly profitable.

And we can appoint those who did this to head the federal agencies that are supposed to protect us from the same corporations who did this.

Now lets congratulate ourselves for our acts of charity. Aren’t we wonderful?

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By Ed Sasha, July 6, 2010 at 6:57 am Link to this comment
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In the litany of items which Bill Boyarsky uses to illustrate the fact that the GOP has “gone off the rails”, I can’t believe that he didn’t mention Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele’s proclamation that the conflict in Afghanistan is “Obama’s war”.

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By SoTexGuy, July 6, 2010 at 5:05 am Link to this comment

What would happen to all the wonks and pundits, on-line and in the media, if they somehow had to talk of real issues and the substance of real issues… and leave out the endless ‘what he said’, ‘what they said’ recitals..

I’m a fan of Mr. Boyarsky’s articles and largely agree with the points he makes in this one.. But just for kicks.. Couldn’t we see the details of exactly how Mr. Obama and the Democrats in Congress are working to shore up Social Security? Make health care affordable and available? Improve employment? Rein in runaway corporatism and greed? Talk turkey on the defecit?

Face it.. the author and others who are rallying around the Democrats are playing the same bait-and-switch name games with pet initiatives just as the Rethuglicans did during the dark years of Bush II.. save the ‘Social Safety net!’.. Of course.. but when the details come out of whatever 5000 page bill that gets through Congress and is signed by the President it’s as likely as not to be as poisonous to Social Security and Medicare as anything that could come out of a behind the door meeting of Republicans and industry officials.. Kind of like the ‘Patriot Act’.. was to freedoms in America.

Sure I like Obama and don’t want him deposed by the lunatic right.. But saying he’s doing all the right stuff, putting friendly labels on the thousands of new laws and cozy-deals that come out of the Congress and lambasting his critics is not a substitute for him getting in front of the problems he was elected to address. He needs to be urging Congress to debate and pass straightforward, common sense, plain language initiatives.

And I think that the Republicans are crazy.. crazy like a fox.. They know that Obama has largely flopped on major progressive and liberal issues and it’s poisoned and debilitated the coalition of voters who put him in office.. His supporters offer many good-sounding excuses for that failure on his part.. But excuses don’t cut it in the voting booth.. And it’s just possible that there will be a Republican resurgence in November.

Then at least the Democrats will have a quantifiable excuse for falling down on major issues.. ‘look, those Republicans won’t let us..!’.. Wait, that’s the excuse they use now.

Adios.

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By par4, July 6, 2010 at 4:46 am Link to this comment
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The Democrats are just as bad. We need fundamental change and we won’t get it from either legacy party.

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By godistwaddle, July 6, 2010 at 3:04 am Link to this comment

Republicans never make the mistake of thinking the voters are intelligent.  they may do very well, and those who vote for them will get just what they deserve, and those who don’t vote for them will get just what they deserve as well, because that’s the Mrkn way.

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By Hammond Eggs, July 5, 2010 at 11:27 pm Link to this comment

” . . . the Republicans are—happily for the country—on an amazingly self-destructive course of trying to destroy what’s left of our safety net.”

I’d say the Republicans have done amazingly well destroying the social safety net (with a lot of help from the Democrats). A majority of the middle class doesn’t seem to care at all.

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