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Posted on Dec 30, 2009
Northwest flight 253
AP / J.P. Karas

Northwest Airlines Flight 253 sits on the runway after arriving at Detroit Metropolitan Airport from Amsterdam on Christmas Day.

By Robert Scheer

There is no “war” against terrorism. What George W. Bush launched and Barack Obama insists on perpetuating does not qualify. Not if by war one means doing the obvious and checking a highly suspicious air traveler’s underwear to see if explosives have been sewn in. If Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab had put the stuff in his shoes we would have had him because that was tried before, but our government was too preoccupied with fighting unnecessary conventional wars and developing anti-missile defense systems to anticipate such a primitive delivery system.

The explosives-laden underwear—worn by an airline passenger who had previously been flagged as a potentially dangerous fanatic, and who had paid cash for his ticket and had no checked luggage—was the terrorist’s weapon of choice, one that could have blown a hole in the side of Northwest Airlines’ Detroit-bound Flight 253 on Christmas Day, killing hundreds of innocents. But it is not a weapon to be effectively countered with the deployment of hundreds of thousands of American combat troops. Nor can it be stopped by the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of planes, subs and missiles in our arsenal of Cold War-era weapons, part of an annual defense budget that is higher in inflation-adjusted dollars than at any time in the past half-century.

In response to the 9/11 hijackers, armed with artillery that cost a couple hundred dollars at most, we threw money and, more important, attention at conventional military responses while neglecting the difficult police work and the intelligence evaluation and civilian-focused technology necessary to thwart homeland attacks. Yes, there are evildoers out there that mean us harm, as President Bush declaimed. But they are often the products of the best of Western education who, as examples ranging from the lead 9/11 hijackers – the Hamburg group—to the elite University College London-educated engineer in the latest incident demonstrate, move more easily in urbane Western societies than in Afghan villages.

The technology that could help detect a sophisticated plane hijacker or suicide bomber has been largely botched in development and only halfheartedly deployed even when it is available. On Tuesday, a devastating report in The Washington Post revealed that the full-body scanning equipment hyped after 9/11, which might have detected the explosives involved in last week’s incident, is still not in wide use. As the Post stated, “A plan that would have helped focus the development of better screening technology and procedures—including a risk-based assessment of aviation threats—is almost two years overdue, according to a report this fall by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.”

So, screening equipment that can detect plastic explosives exists, but it was not used in this case and, as the GAO predicted, “TSA cannot ensure that it is targeting the highest priority security needs at checkpoints; measure the extent to which deployed technologies reduce the risk of terrorist attacks; or make needed adjustments to its PSP [Passenger Screening Program] strategy.” As a result, the GAO concluded: “TSA lacks assurance that its investments in screening technologies address the highest priority security needs at airport passenger checkpoints.”

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The “systematic failure” in the nation’s security that President Obama referred to Tuesday derives from the war metaphor itself and from the assumption, begun with Bush’s irrational invasion of Iraq and extended with Obama’s escalation in Afghanistan, that terrorism is a military rather than a criminal threat. The terrorists are not rebel fighters rooted, as are the Taliban and the remnants of the Iraq insurgency, in their homeland struggles and subject to being defeated on conventional battlefields.

Rather, they are rootless cosmopolitans of violence, alienated from any stated homeland and free to move easily about the world, armed in almost every instance with valid passports, visas and money to exploit our inability to seriously evaluate our own intelligence data. They can count on our top government officials ignoring blinking red warnings, as the Bush White House did before 9/11, or the alarm of a well-connected and properly concerned Nigerian banker-father.

Preventing terrorist attacks on the U.S. homeland has nothing to do with occupying vast tracts of land or winning the hearts and minds of backward villagers whom we falsely depict as surrogates of an evil empire, as we did in Vietnam and are now doing in Afghanistan. What is needed is smart police work to catch these highly mobile fanatics, and that begins with actually reading and then acting on the readily available intelligence data. It requires detectives with brains and not generals with firepower.

The ballooning of the defense budget after 9/11 has proved a great boondoggle for the military-industrial complex, which suddenly found an excuse to build weapons and deploy conventional forces against a superpower enemy that no longer exists. But our stealth fighters and bombers designed to defeat Soviet defenses that were never built are a poor match against a terrorist’s stealth underwear.

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“The Great American Stickup: How Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats Enriched Wall Street While Mugging Main Street.”


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By Tony Wicher, January 6, 2010 at 12:35 pm Link to this comment

Re DieDaily, January 5 at 8:14 am

DieDaily,

You and I have arrived at the same conclusions concerning the Bush family, even though I have not read the Tarpley book. They are indeed out-and-out NazisIt seems that George H.W. “Poppy” Bush has been involved in every covert operation since WW 2. He has got to be the most devious snake on record. These Nazis have greatly refined their methods over the decades, greatly helped by new technologies. We are now in the midst of a propaganda campiagn to take absolute control by scapegoating Muslims instead of Jews. It’s working like a charm. 

Very good job. Thanks for the research tips.

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By omop, January 6, 2010 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment

This election year America will still be spending $300 million a day
(much more if we invade Iran and Yemen) in Iraq and Afghanistan in
addition to the $15/17 million a day thats deposited in Israel’s account.

The above expenditures necessitated the increases that congress voted
for each of its members:-

  U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300
yearly pay raises.
  1.  They voted to not give American citizens on S.S. Any Cost of Living
raises in 2010 and 2011.
  2.  And increased their Medicare premiums up $285.60 for the 2-
years.
   
  In essence then regardless of political party affiliation or non
affiliation the states of Iraq, Israel and Afghanistan will still get
precedence over American citizens who have worked and paid their
taxes all their lives.

  So come November 2010 remember the Alamo or is it The Stealth Hanes.

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By 9circlesofhell, January 6, 2010 at 6:23 am Link to this comment
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As long as there are those in America who continue to view -and voice- the
country through the one-eye-open myopia of a political party, be it those so-
called moron liberals or those sphincter-closed conservatives, then all leaders
of government will be quite content (and hysterically laughing all the way to
the banks that own them) to conduct business-as-usual. 

And of course, those guffawing officials of governance are most delighted
when they here we the people express their disappointment and anger with,
“f*** em, we’ll just vote them out next election.”  Oh my, history has clearly
shown that simplistic tactic doesn’t work, now does it?

Here’s my suggestion for 2010: try to address every posting without using the
words, i) conservative, ii) democrat, iii) left-wing, iv) liberal, v) republican, vi)
right-wing, and simply use American(s).  It just might do wonders for lowing
your blood pressure while providing clarity of thinking.

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By jack, January 5, 2010 at 3:09 pm Link to this comment
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RE: By rfidler, January 5 at 1:08 am #
And you liberal morons want to trust the government with your health care.
How is all that Hopey-change workin out for you bozos anyhow?

you’re barking up a dead tree - too many know and many more are alerting to the fact
that the current POTUS is no less the Oligarchy’s sock puppet than were the last 7 so-
called leaders of the so-called free world

moreover, your tiresome barking is so obviously an effort to arouse the overly tawdry Left vs. Right diversion, designed to distract from our common enemy: THE GLOBAL FINANCE OLIGARCHY

now take whatever you’ve been paid for this nonsense and get on a plane to Cabo, or
wherever you need to be surrounded by dirt-poor servants who don’t talk back

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By DieDaily, January 5, 2010 at 4:14 am Link to this comment

drbhelthi, dang, you’ve done some research! May I clarify a few things for folks who don’t have a couple weeks to hit the books?

A bunch of diverse but historically verifiable evidence was first assembled into a cogent book format by Webster G. Tarpley, historian and all-round luminary extraordinaire linking the Bush family to the Third Reich. All of it is public records stuff, so don’t get jumpy here, there is not “conspiracy stuff” it’s merely a bit of shunned but historical fact.

First it is a matter of congressional record that George H W Bush Sr. (the father of Bush I born George H Scherf Sr.) funded the Nazis extensively along with various other Wall Street scumbags such as his partner Harriman, and various London bankers and American and European Industrialists. He was arrested and his many of his assets were seized. This is in the 11/7/42 Congressional Record, and please either go look it up or else don’t get bent out of shape. Bush I’s dad was a bit slow, like Bush I, but crafty and covetous and soulless. He was Nikola Tesla’s assistant…and had close familial (social) connections with the worst, most powerful Nazis. He eventually betrayed Tesla but I digress. (No Aliens involved, in case you were wondering…I know the name Tesla brings UFO nuts in like flies…I hate UFO nuts and most certainly am not one).

Continuing, here is the photo (and a very good overview of the whole sordid history of the Bush=Scherf hell-spawned clan): http://www.arcticbeacon.com/books/George_H_Scherf_Jr.pdf
This paper built on Tarpley’s work when dozens of photos were disclosed and many deathbed secrets revealed. What were at first suspected to be the ravings of a bitter old SS bodyguard, have since largely be confirmed. This referenced the above photo:

pictured is the Scherf family and a few friends (circa 1938). Holding “Mother” Scherff’s hand at left is Martin Bormann. In front is Reinhardt Gehlen. In back is Joseph Mengele and to his right is Skorzeny as a young man. At center right (in the German navy uniform) is George H. Scherf, Jr. and his father George H. Scherff, Sr. Bormann became Hitler’s second in command. Reinhardt Gehlen was a chief SS officer and assassin who was smuggled out of Germany under Operation Paperclip. Skorzeny was Hitler’s bodyguard and SS spy/assassin who came to the U.S. after the war under Project Paperclip. Skorzeny and GHW Bush were instrumental in merging Nazi (SS) intelligence with the OSI to form the CIA with “Wild Bill” Donovan and Allen Dulles. These guys were also part of CIA mind control experiments such as MK-ULTRA. SS officer and physician Joseph Mengele, the notoriously sadistic “Angel of Death” of Auschwitz, escaped Germany to South America after the war. George H. Scherf, Jr., became the 41st President of the United States as GHW Bush and George H. Scherf, Sr., was Nicola Tesla’s “trusted assistant.”

Read Webster Tarpley’s book “George Bush, the unauthorized biography” if it concerns you that to this day the Bush (Scherf) familScherfScherfy are FULL-ON FREAKING Nazis. In case you were wondering, I’m not making any of this up! It checks out. I was disbelieving for a while. Hence the weeks of research I felt was needed to determine if any of this was a scam. Sadly, it was not.

Again, that link is:
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/books/George_H_Scherf_Jr.pdf

If you follow the trails that lead outward from this research, it gets pretty upsetting. Many of our corporations, such as IBM, were deeply, deeply involved. Many fellow Eugenicists (such as Bill Gates’ father) are seriously implicated. Again, I will resist the temptation to explain further, unless asked to!

Happy hunting TruthDiggers!

 

 


The sordid affair, which continues to the present day, is now very well documented and understood.

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By drbhelthi, January 5, 2010 at 2:54 am Link to this comment

A peep into the background of motivation behind all the value
distortion that has plagued the Republic of the United Stated
of America, since prior to the end of WWII, is useful.

When allen Dulles and cronies arranged to move the NAZI
headquarters from Berlin to DC, they set-up the USofA for the
junk behavior that has plagued us since 1945.  The greed,
that moved Werner Freiherr von Braun into a hero spot instead
of placing him with his colleagues at the Nurremburg Trials,
has overtaken the leadership of the USA.  All the folk who
have driven such satanism forward fail to comtemplate that
the system they espouse results in destruction, not
improvement.

Who is unable to perceive the current distress of the USofA
and the entire western world?  Which, has been instituted
largely via the efforts of the Georg Scherff family of
Doerlitszch, SE of Leipzig, with marionnettes of NAZI-ism,
and cohorts.  One group of cohorts should step outside the PR
propaganda of their system, and become acquainted with the
work of Schlomo Zand, teacher at Tel Aviv University, who
wrote a book, “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” 
Incorporating reality into ones behavior is always helpful.

All employees of the government of the USofA
are public servants, sworn to uphold and further the concepts
of the Constitution of the United States of America, it is
time for all of them to “take hold.”  This includes all the
covert agents of all organizations of the US.  Folks, take a
moment to comprehend the freedoms you have enjoyed.  All of
them are sponsored by the Christian heritage of the original
founders, which heritage continues to exist.  Is it not time
that all of you began to do that which you promised to do,
instead of pimping for the evil NAZI-types who have taken
over? 

Who among US agents expects anything other than that which
was awarded to Lee Harvey Oswald, after many years of
faithful service to the CIA?  Think of all the Americans whom
your co-workers have “quietened” because they either knew too
much, or said they would become honest like Chip Tatum.  Does
your behavior serve the interests of freedom, or the NAZI
satanism that destroys?  The same goes for all elected
representatives in the congress of the USofA.  It is time for
you to serve the folk you represent, not the stooges who
intimidate you to do their bidding, and who bribe you and do
illegal favors for you. 

Maybe we need to remind ourselves that beliefs are based on
faith and trust.  Not bribery and intimidation.

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By DieDaily, January 4, 2010 at 9:34 pm Link to this comment

rfidler, yes, but the republicans are just the opposite side of the same rusty old coin. It’s not like there is anything to choose between the two! The Libs are just the dupes in power. In 2012 the awake will be fighting the Cons just as determinedly. It’s SO nice to see the two huddling herds of sheeple beginning to fragment and lose so many of their more enterprising to the free range. I like it out here on the free range. Once you’ve had a taste of it, you could never go back to either of the Rep/Dem herds. It just becomes a spiritual no-can-do. That’s why we’re winning. Democrat and Republican lies must be constantly re-appliedm, but once you wake up, that’s a one-time, one-way ticket to freedom. Game theory thus predicts a big and long-lasting win for us free-rangers.

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By rico, suave, January 4, 2010 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment

And you liberal morons want to trust the government with your health care.

How is all that Hopey-change workin out for you bozos anyhow?

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By drbhelthi, January 4, 2010 at 4:01 pm Link to this comment

As far as the unravelling story about a second teenage boy, Black, a genuine refugee from an oppressed land, being accompanied by an airline representative on the flight due to his status of being a “minor.”  How did he get to ANY international airport in Europe without some kind of passport or official documentation?  It is simply a stupid fairy tale, conjectured by such people as conjectured the name, “Al Kaida,” for Junior Bush among his various abortions during his first term of office.

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By drbhelthi, January 4, 2010 at 3:40 pm Link to this comment

If the “most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers ”  ought to be locked up in Gitmo for good, one question is outstanding. Can Gitmo contain the assassins of Blackwater (Ex), the CIA, FBI, NSA, MOSSAD and MI6 Agents in the USA, and the several thousand in the various US armed forces? Not the average shell-shocked soldier or airman, but rather the specially-trained, vicious killers.

Probably the stage hands, who “staged the entire NW 253 event, from the agents who planned the event, the agent who got the zapped-brained African youth on the airliner, the agents who interrupted the event on the airliner, to the agents who gave the later interviews devaluing the observations of the Haskells,” are not adequately qualified. But, who knows?

It does not require much training to sacrifice oneself to be blown up in order to sacrifice others.  Only brain-washing is required, such as each of the above-mentioned killers receives, in abundance.

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By wildflower, January 4, 2010 at 1:49 pm Link to this comment

RE JOHN ELLIS COMMENT: “wildflower logic [re alQaeda]: “civilians have committed no personal offense against anyone”

Yes, this I believe and since you served in the military, you must know this same reasoning was applied in the Fourth Geneva Convention. The bottom line is there are certain humanitarian expectations in regard to civilians and individuals who abuse these guidelines can and should be tried for war crimes.

With al-Qaeda, unarmed, unsuspecting civilians are their target preference. This factor along with their intolerant religious views pretty much puts them in the hate group category. I emphasize this because this group has never done anything constructive to alleviate any problem in any nation.  Since its leaders are educated, it certainly can’t be due to a lack of know how and as educated men they must know that the end result of doing what they are doing can only lead to more hate and violence.  Ultimately, they are just one more group exploiting the less fortunate to promote their personal hate agenda.

RE JOHN ELLIS COMMENT: “if we civilians with our defense economy are enriching ourselves upon the misery of the Middle East . . . how can it be said the we, “civilians have committed no personal offense against anyone.”

You have taken my “civilian & war” comment out of context, of course, but this is Ok since I understand what you mean.  In response to your question, I believe the U.S. citizenry needs to insist the citizenry have more say as to where our tax dollars are going.  Since the Republicans have now established a precedent
in regard to morals and the public funding of abortions etc., I believe the citizenry should also insist morals be applied to the public funding of nation meddling, particularly in the area of “pre-emptive” wars.

Per your Israel comments, I think the right-wingers in Israel are pretty darn fanatical. What occurred in Gaza was simply inhumane and unjustifiable. One would think that a culture that had experienced a horrific event like the Holocaust would fully understand the horror that the Holocaust represented - but apparently not.  This factor along with their close association with some of the radical religious fundamentalist groups in the U.S. is certainly alarming. And like many other Americans, it really disturbs me that U.S. politicians continue to provide support to Israel with my tax dollars. 

As for Palestine, my own feelings are mixed. They obviously have their share of radicals who like Israel’s right wing radicals are guilty of war crimes against civilians, but I also feel this country has been treated unfairly for some time now and deserves a lot more help than they are getting – specifically more economic development assistance from wealthier nations, especially from Middle East nations.  Everyone speaks about the cultural and historical importance of this region along with its extreme poverty level conditions, but no one steps forward to help change things in big picture.

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By denk, January 4, 2010 at 9:09 am Link to this comment

if, according to bush, those “most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers ”  ought to be locked up in gitmo for good.
http://tinyurl.com/yaucm87
why were the two alleged masterminds of the detroit “crotch bomber” caper released without trial, while the aussie drifter mr hicks was left to rot in solitary confinement, despite the plea from “deputy” howard to get an early pardon?
tinyurl.com/y9eflge


perhaps its the same reason that “fervently anti amerikkan” mr mehsud was granted an early break and sent back to afghan ?
tinyurl.com/yhbau7e
tinyurl.com/yf9zwsj
tinyurl.com/ycjkd4l

hicks the “useless eater” vs mehsud and co, the “valuable assets ?
tinyurl.com/3svu58

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By gerard, January 3, 2010 at 8:47 pm Link to this comment

John Ellis—‘And so, before 9/11, who was being enriched upon the misery of those in the Middle East?  What with the terrorists so hell-bent on our destruction having come from the Middle East or trained by those in the Middle East, what have we done that has them so filled with vengeance?”

Many books have been published detailing “what we have done” and what we have not done that “has them so filled with vengeance.Taking a long view, some historians say it started with the Crusades and the hateful feelings on all sides have never been vented or cleared, causing deep animosity between Muslims, Christians and Jews.  Vastly different cultures, languages, attitudes, customs, misunderstandings ever since have created deep resentments, although the situation has improved from time to time. The division of land in the M.E. portioned out arbitrarily after WWI has contributed to resentment.
Exploitation of oil has caused problems. Religions have sometimes encouraged hatred and fear.  There are many books now attempting to summarize the problems including Chalmers Johnson or Noam Chomsky, to name only two.  Read, study, think.

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By Beltwaylaid, January 3, 2010 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment
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It seems that we Americans are expected to be in an
eternal state of over-reaction to supposed or minimal
threats to our opulent lifestyles.

Yet, the most meaningful over-reaction would be to vote
third party members into the entire Senate and House of
Representatives.

That would be change we could believe in.

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By wildflower, January 3, 2010 at 7:00 pm Link to this comment

RE JOHN ELLIS COMMENT: “And so, Wildflower, are you not a terrorist?  For you support our government in its terrorist policy of collateral damage to civilians.”

Believe your comment demonstrates faulty thinking and a disingenuous spirit, John Ellis. Terrorists are individuals who use and advocate violence for political reasons, and like a great number of people in the U.S, I believe this kind conduct is unjust and immoral.  I also believe that it is immoral for a government to view the lives of citizens to be nothing more than insignificant collateral damage, and like many other Americans, I have repeatedly stated so on numerous occasions in a variety of ways, including posts on Truthdig. 

You ask how can we change things, but after reading some of your posts on this particular thread, I don’t really feel that you are sincere about this.  It seems to me that you just like to argue for the sake of arguing – and not very rational arguments I might add. In one post, you suggest that the U.S. Constitution is no good because the creators of the Constitution had flawed characters. In another post you pounce on Scheer because he referred to al-Qaeda as terrorists, which they obviously are.  In your Obama post, you blame him for the “no” votes of other individuals in regard to health reform.

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By M Henri Day, January 3, 2010 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment

It is not merely stealth fighters and bombers that, while excellent at the task of killing people and theoretically, then, invincible, don’t seem to be making the grade in winning the «so-called war against terrorism» (always assuming that the objective is to «win» the latter, rather than just wage it - after all, it is the waging it which channels the profits into the pockets of the armament manufacturers and allows teh government to further reduce the liberty of citizens and residents in the name of «security». Yet another expensive technological fix on which the Obama adminstration seems to be banking its tactics - drones and other pilotless aircraft - are by no means immune from interference, as shown in the aptly entitled article Hackable drones, crumbling empire recently published by Tom Burghardt. But of course, if one is convinced that the other side consists of backward souls living in the 14th century utterly incapable of devising cheap counter-measures to the hi-tech weapon being used against them, no need to worry, now is there ? Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall….

Henri

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By wildflower, January 3, 2010 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment

RE JOHN ELLIS COMMENT: “Author Scheer stated the above as an absolute, without a fact or word of logic to prove his point.”

But Scheer does provide an explanation as to why he considers al-Qaeda to be “rootless cosmopolitans of violence,” and his explanation is quite clear: 

“. . . the terrorists are not rebel fighters rooted, as are the Taliban and the remnants of the Iraq insurgency, in their homeland struggles and subject to being defeated on conventional battlefields.” [Scheer’s Comment]

“. . . they are often the products of the best of Western education who, as examples ranging from the lead 9/11 hijackers – the Hamburg group—to the elite University College London-educated engineer in the latest incident demonstrate, move more easily in urbane Western societies than in Afghan villages.” [Scheer’s Comment]

I believe Scheer’s use of the term “terrorists” in reference to al-Qaeda is also justifiable. What other term could one use to describe people who routinely target unarmed, unsuspecting civilians – including children? Even in conventional warfare this kind of mindless collective reprisal killing is considered a crime. The reality is that civilians have no direct personal political power and civilians have committed no personal offense against anyone. There is nothing just and/or honorable about killing innocent men, women and children.  It’s a violent fanatical act.

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By Paul J. Theis, January 3, 2010 at 11:58 am Link to this comment

From “The Independent” (UK) today, a report that there are in fact serious doubts about the effectiveness of body scanners in detecting low density materials such as those used in the attempted Christmas Day airliner bomb attack.

Please see: “Are planned airport scanners just a scam?” by Jane Merrick[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/are-planned-airport-scanners-just-a-scam-1856175.html].

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By omop, January 3, 2010 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

THERE IS NO GLOBAL WAR ON STEALTH UNDERWEAR OR TERRORISTS.

US FOREIGN POLICY IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAS FOLLOWED AND IS FOLLOWING
BIBI NETHANYAHU’S PLANS.

” Many Americans have been persuaded to give up their lives to achieve it. And it looks very likely that more may be needed by Mr. Obama and friends”

John Mearsheimer wrote in March 2006 in the London Review of Books that
the ‘Clean Break’ paper “called for Israel to take steps to reorder the entire
Middle East. Netanyahu did not follow their advice, but Feith, Perle and
Wurmser were soon urging the Bush administration to pursue those same
goals.

Ian Buruma wrote in August 2003 in the New York Times that:

” It has indeed become an article of faith (literally in some cases) in
Washington that American and Israeli interests are identical.”

Buruma continues, “What we see, then, is not a Jewish conspiracy, but a
peculiar alliance of evangelical Christians, foreign-policy hard-liners, lobbyists
for the Israeli government and neoconservatives, a number of whom happen to
be Jewish. But the Jews among them—Perle, Wolfowitz, William Kristol, editor
of The Weekly Standard, et al.—are more likely to speak about freedom and
democracy than about Halakha (Jewish law)”.

“What unites this alliance of convenience is a shared vision of American
destiny and the conviction that American force and a tough Israeli line on the
Arabs are the best ways to make the United States strong, Israel safe and the
world a better place.”

Daniel Levy described the paper and the influence its authors came to yield on
US foreign policy.

“In 1996 a group of then opposition U.S. policy agitators, including Richard
Perle and Douglas Feith, presented a paper entitled ‘A Clean Break: A New
Strategy for Securing the Realm’ to incoming Israeli prime minister Benjamin
Netanyahu.

An October 2003 editorial in The Nation criticized the Syria Accountability Act
and connected it to the ‘Clean Break’ report and authors.

“To properly understand the Syria Accountability Act, one has to go back to a
1996 document, ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,’
drafted by a team of advisers to Benjamin Netanyahu in his run for prime
minister of Israel.

The authors included current Bush advisers Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.
‘Syria challenges Israel on Lebanese soil,’ they wrote, calling for ‘striking Syrian
military targets in Lebanon, and should that prove insufficient, striking at select
targets in Syria proper.’ No wonder Perle was delighted by the Israeli strike. ‘It
will help the peace process,’ he told the Washington Post, adding later that the
United States itself might have to attack Syria. But what Perle means by ‘helping
the peace process’ is not resolving the conflict by bringing about a viable,
sovereign Palestinian state but rather - as underscored in ‘A Clean Break’ -
‘transcending the Arab-Israeli conflict’ altogether by forcing the Arabs to
accept most, if not all, of Israel’s territorial conquests and its nuclear
hegemony in the region.”

“Taki” in the September 2006 issue of The American Conservative writes that

“recently, Netanyahu suggested that President Bush had assured him Iran will
be prevented from going nuclear. I take him at his word. Netanyahu seems to
be the main mover in America’s official adoption of the 1996 white paper A
Clean Break, authored by him and American fellow neocons, which aimed to
aggressively remake the strategic environments of Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon,
Syria, and Iran. As they say in boxing circles, three down, two to go.”

In 2010 Afghanistan, and Pakistan will now be enjoined with Yemen, Somalia
as requiring American young men and women to teach em about freedom and
democracy and how to love Americans rather than hate em.

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By ardee, January 3, 2010 at 4:26 am Link to this comment

myloUSMC, January 3 at 7:07 am

I understand that you do not come here to express, debate or test your own views against those of others.Rather you post from some inner need to prove yourself a clown prince or some such.

I think that the humor inherent in your accusations of the idiocy of others while posting semi-literate and badly spelled screeds may escape you. I assure you that it doesn’t escape others. Calling someone who posts literate and well expressed ideas, whether or not one agrees with those ideas, an idiot seems more than a bit odd. Unless, of course, you are just rehearsing a one man comedy show.

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By truedigger3, January 3, 2010 at 4:24 am Link to this comment

myloUSMC wrote:
“ENJOY and learn a Language, take a trip, or Get a life”

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I know more languages than you do and I visited many countries.
If what you said was true and that you were allover the world, then you should have been more enlightened and understanding and having more empathy with your fellow human beings, but you talk and think like a red neck white trash who is isolated in the backwoods of Mississippi.
Any way I am glad to see you leaving and bonne voyage . Adios Amego!!

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By jack, January 3, 2010 at 3:08 am Link to this comment
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RE: ...iraqis or afghanis let them clean up their countries mess

curious logic — first we give them Saddam (a CIA project) and the Taliban
(spawned of the Mujahadeen - Brzezinski’s/Gates’/Charlie Wilson’s project), then
invade to take them out, reeking chaos, civil war and total collapse of all state
structures — brilliant notion — we keep offering friendship like this, soon enough
the whole world will be our enemy

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By myloUSMC, January 3, 2010 at 3:07 am Link to this comment

RE:truedigger3
Looks like I caught me another one ( AN idoit that IS) Have fun Son
Idonot drink chew , smoke or do drugs I however have what is know in the trade as an Investigative tech…... one that pulls idoit out to the front so We can really get a close look at them in the Day light….
SORRY about your luck the boat is True Whe Wives still love me ( except the first one ) and I really donot like Abusers MALe or Female if the Fact be know Ask any Judge they will tell you Women are more ruthless than any man in Situtations…That is why many times we escort the man out of Family court because the women have suprises for them
REALLY, GUY you should get a life .I do this for fun….And though I speak true .. I just like to see what pops up as one of my other MORE intelligent Bloggers says “Fruit CAKE”
See ya in the Funny papers…..got to love America you and I would both be in the GULLAG
Enjoy .  this as I am going for new Bait in more Recent articles….... Call me I am listed   in France , Paris under mylousmc Help Mercee! and Hola!  pard’oner donot get hurt coming down the mountain
Gee forgot this was about A bomber glad he was also an Idoit ....and did not ruin the lives of the people on board ......
I clicked the donot notify me about anymore post at the bottom of the page..ENJOY and learn a Language, take a trip, or Get a life

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By truedigger3, January 3, 2010 at 2:46 am Link to this comment

Re:myloUSMC, January 2 at 11:28 pm #

You say that you believe in family then you go and have SEVERAL wives and father eight kids from different mothers! What a piece of shitty white trash liar you are!.
And you say the wives, had paid you to leave! If that was true, what a real good family man you were!
Why did the wives pay you to leave? Did you use to get drunk and beat them up??!!
Was your speciality is to trap rich lonely women in a marriage then get a hefty settlement from them in a divorce??
Go back to the pile of trash you came from and STFU!
You are so stupid not even to know how to lie a simple lie,  Mr. foreign agent Man!!

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By Outraged, January 3, 2010 at 1:40 am Link to this comment

Re: myloUSMC

Your comment: “THERE are always bad apples in the Barrel”

Absolutely.  Although… for the record, there are also “fruitcakes” who comment on the blogs.

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By M Henri Day, January 3, 2010 at 1:06 am Link to this comment

Thong-girl, just to set the record straight : the coup against the Mossadeq government took place in August 1953. Mossadeq was not assassinated, but rather imprisoned in solitary confinement for three years, after which he was placed in house arrest in his native village until his death, presumably from natural causes - he was just a couple of months short of 85 - in March 1967….

Henri

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 7:28 pm Link to this comment

Re: Robert, January 2 at 12:42 pm ( not directed at you, thanks you for honest comments )some of my current posting goes to Ahab the toweled wanta be.
As for:
THE ex Wives were happy to be rid of me and helped pay for it ........It must be obvious that I am a Radical/Military/Marine/

AND to the other people( Ahabe “SINBAD the Arabian night)what a poor sport It is like I can come over and force this stuff down your throat.
AHAB(sinbad) what did you do go online to try and learn LATIN.

I am proud of most who post at least they can Spell , I was just BRAIN WASHED to believe in God, Country Family and Corp also to help even those who donot know they needed it

YOUR SHEEPDOG ,always taking care of the 99.9% of the followers and wana bees in the hive

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By mandinka, January 2, 2010 at 6:58 pm Link to this comment

thonggirl, can’t wait to get away… can’t wait for you to leave and have you destroy another civilized country. On the other hand I bet your chances of having anything approaching equal rights there will pale to what goes on here.

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By prosefights, January 2, 2010 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

As we read about terrorism, keep in mind

As reported in Switzerland’s Neue Zurcher Zeitung, the U.S. provided the contents of encrypted Iranian messages to France to assist in the conviction of Ali Vakili Rad and Massoud Hendi for the stabbing death in the Paris suburb of Suresnes of the former Iranian prime minister Shahpour Bakhtiar and his personal secretary Katibeh Fallouch.

[7] U.S. District Court for the District of New Mexico, William H. Payne, Arthur R. Morales, Plaintiffs, v. Lieutenant General Kenneth A. Minihan, USAF, Director of National Security Agency, National Security Agency, Defendant, CIV NO 97 0266 SC/DJS.

We want our money back.

Google ‘nojeh nsa lawsuit’ to read about what we did to the Iranians.

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By Thong-girl, January 2, 2010 at 5:28 pm Link to this comment

The overall population of the U.S. simply has no clue about what is right or wrong, only that they want their lifestyles protected and screw the cost to the rest of the world.  The sense of history for the average U.S. citizen is non existent.  When Bush came out and said they “hate us for our freedom” many believed him and still do.  Ask someone whether or not we should care that the U.S. assassinated Mosadeq in ‘52 and essentially stole the natural resources of Iran while imprisoning most of its men to work in the oil fields as slaves while the Shah got rich, and they will say, ‘so what?’ 

It has become harder and harder to get along with those who refuse to open their eyes and get educated and vote accordingly.  I no longer believe that the U.S.A. even exists, which makes it easier for me to leave.  I can’t wait to get far away and look back to see if the rest of the people here ever figure out how wrong we’ve been on almost every single count.  I am ashamed of this country and embarrassed to be a part of it.

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By jack, January 2, 2010 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment
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RE: ...if I was an 18 year old boy there, and I had lost my home years ago because of US bombs,
and I couldn’t get a job, and I saw many of my good friends taken away and tortured, and I watched
my family be killing by aerial bombing at a wedding…wouldn’t I be a little upset and want to strike
back the only way I could?

Indeed, what is cited above is real terrorism, and certainly there is “blow back” from avengers; the
problem is that it’s unpredictable - they can’t be counted on to deliver terrorist reprisals when
needed.

So, to get what’s needed, when it’s needed, you get this: a wealthy, brain-washed, sheep-dipped
patsy, whose modus operandus could not possibly work, manipulated, handled and set up to create
a “narrowly averted terrorist incident.”

And, despite FBI moles’ desperate attempts to bury the facts, they are coming out and all point to
the most recent page in the rolling black-op/psy-op that is the GLOBAL WAR OF TERROR.

Thanks to Wicker’s relating details from The Wayne Madsen Report. Former NSA analyst and Navy
intelligence officer Wayne Madsen, is well-informed. Those in this blog dismissing his reports as
“conspiracy fiction,” are clueless. Truthdig would do well to post Madsen’s reports. The sooner the
vocabulary, names, faces and operations that detail the treasonous nature of the shadow
government come into common use, the sooner these traitors may be brought to justice.

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By mandinka, January 2, 2010 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

Or lichen I would blame the those who caused all this retribution to rain down on us and remove terrorists and al qaeda from my country. Why is it when there is a fight for freedom the rats leave their country and demand asylum in the US?? Rather than stay and rebuild their country into something worthwhile.
The best thing this country has done is NOT to open the doors to iraqis or afghanis let them clean up their countries mess

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By lichen, January 2, 2010 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

I agree John Ellis; scheer’s characterization of these people is ridiculous.  They are often poor peasants, and nationalists, who have been disenfranchised by the extreme violence that the US/Nato militaries have inflicted on their lives, livelihoods, and families.  The US has murdered millions of people in the middle east over the last thirty years; that is why local branches of the franchise AQ are popping up like mcdonalds; because these people are given no legal redress; no way to fight back; when the US kills civilians in their country, The Hague will not try them for it, not stop it. 

I feel quite ‘radicalized’ myself just sitting here in the US; I can imagine if I was an 18 year old boy there, and I had lost my home years ago because of US bombs, and I couldn’t get a job, and I saw many of my good friends taken away and tortured, and I watched my family be killing by aerial bombing at a wedding…wouldn’t I be a little upset and want to strike back the only way I could?

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 2, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

By myloUSMC, January 2 at 4:39 am #

RE: Arabian Sinbad, January 2 at 1:22 am
I have dealt with the Mossulumeeeeee Attitude since 1973…
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You addressed two of your incoherent rantings to me personally. I don’t have a way to lower myself to your lowly level since you’re most likely just one of those brainwashed white trash with whom people of reason cannot reason. It is your type that represents what’s wrong and what will always be wrong with America. You’re full of bragging hot air and shit!

Beyond this short comment I am satisfied with the responses directed to you by some enlightened posters. However, it’s my final opinion that your types are better dealt with by ignoring their rants.

You are siempre mierda!

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By drbhelthi, January 2, 2010 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment

Comments require no documentation in a forum. Nor do they require approval or disapproval by other participants.  While commenters who display the “kill the messenger” MO are typically propagandists, sometimes folk just scapegoat. Anyway, some of us have no appreciation for “the Simpsons,” the pun “Semper fudge,” or subtly-associated meanings.

A few of us served in the US armed forces before the US was taken over by the “NAZI Hydra” which converted formerly patriotic organizations into covert, satanic operations.  A NAZI movement accelerated during GHWBushSr´s secretive reign
over the CIA, at the time of the murder of JFKSr, and during the Reagan administration.  A great American, Dwight D. Eisenhower, warned us about the internal threat to the USA, but failed to adequately mention the NAZIs. One subsequent US
President refreshed the warning. His plan was to dissolve the CIA and the Federal Reserve. The traitors who control these organizations got him with their “final scapegoating” before he got them with constitutionally-required dissolution. These
traitors had their hand tipped recently with the Black youth on Delta/NW 253. A victim of CIA mind control, this youth´s brain was reprogrammed so that spontaneous thinking rarely occurs. Details are found in “The CIA Doctors: Human Rights Violations by American Psychiatrists,” by Dr. Colin Ross.

“They” cannot reprogram the brains of us older vets.  Thus, the ILLUMINAZIs have “final scapegoating” plans for some of us, after they bottom-out the US dollar, scheduled by the end of Feb. Fortunately, some of their plans will backfire on them.  Millions of folk in the USA and around the globe are alerted to their satanic subjugation plans.  How many security levels above TOP SECRET are there ?

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By Leefeller, January 2, 2010 at 10:49 am Link to this comment

You know Archie Bunker said it many years ago, if you want to prevent airplane hijackings, issue everyone on the plane a gun. It would maybe even prevented 911?  Not sure about issuing everyone explosive underwear though, seems like fat people would have an advantage?

I am an ex marine and proud of the USMC, though I do not have “simper sigh” tattooed on my forehead. Guess we were protecting something in Vietnam, still have not figured out what that was. Guess I am not as smart as the new batch of marines.

“Opinion’s”, as it goes, seems an ex marine or even one still serving marine should know very clearly what that means.

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By 911truthdotorg, January 2, 2010 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff benefiting from scanner sales

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705355601/Chertoff-benefits-from-scanner-sales.html
http://www.allvoices.com/news/4907927-body-scanners

Chertoff has been on all the talk shows fearing up the American sheeple that we need these scanners. This is why they planted that underwear “terrorist” on that plane….....

Full-Body Scanners to Fry Travelers With Radiation
http://noworldsystem.com/2009/12/31/full-body-scanners-to-fry-travelers-with-rad
iation/

Flight 253 passenger Kurt Haskell: ‘I was visited by the FBI’

Today is the second worst day of my life after 12-25-09. Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans.
Let me explain.  http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_
passenger_kurt_hask.html

And why would they plant someone on the plane to attempt to blow it up? 
Hmmmmmmm…......
Can you say false flag = $51,000,000 dollar contract paid by taxes?
150 more full-body scanners to go in U.S. airports ($170,000) each
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c18_1262292836&c=1
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091231-704430.html

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By truedigger3, January 2, 2010 at 10:16 am Link to this comment

Re:By myloUSMC, January 2 at 5:09 am #

Let us see, eight kids, several wives with their divorce settlements and 42 feet sail boat and all that on just your salary without the help from the government or an inheritance.
OH Yeah Right!! What an example of self reliance??!
You are full of shit, buster, and you are not fooling anybody.
With eight kids and several wives, how did you find the time to do your job or just sailing??!!!
Definitely the way you write and express yourself and your level of understanding of the nuances of life and cultures abroad, all that tells me that, definitely, you were not an operative abroad and that you are a liar and not even a smart liar.
Go sailing on your imaginary boat and Get Lost.!

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By Robert, January 2, 2010 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

Tarpley : Underwear Bomber “Establishment Controlled Patsy!”


VIDEO


http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9242

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By Robert, January 2, 2010 at 8:42 am Link to this comment

By myloUSMC, January 2 at 5:09 am


“THEN maybe you would say OH !! gee this guy may have something ......
I have been in 14 countries over 35 years collecting (information, contacts and many angry enemys) when I retired I was given a Stippend and told Not to tlee what I knew well LUCK WOULD HAV IT THAT THE INTERNET PROSPERED and I write as much as I can . Sometimes just to stur up people to Ask QUESTIONS . I have been censured more than once by my own Government and told to keep Quite.At times I take the other view in Writting these little DITTIES…... But the Truth is THAT AMERICA IS STILL the BEST DEAL AROUND ..... Find me another I will take my little 42 ft Sail boat and go there ..... I currently have 5 children in various military actions , 2 in law enforcement , one running for public office yes I have a lot of kids and had a lot of wives because I worked my entire life toward a Better world .......It DOESNOT include killers,and a belief that one should kill because of ones difference in Religious Views .”

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Wow…a lot of wives and a little 42 ft sail boat!!! You have done well for yourself…I mean that is some achievements! At least your “a lot of wives” did not get your 42 ft sail boat…!

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By montanawildhack, January 2, 2010 at 4:12 am Link to this comment

To all the posters out there who happen to be Marines———Semper Fudge…...

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By drbhelthi, January 2, 2010 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

Beliefs, beliefs. They typically reflect groups of ideas that
exist without conclusive, factual proof. However, the events of
approx. two thousand years ago, resulting in years being
nomenclatured as either BC or AD, are variously documented, by
a variety of people.  Naturally, the tribe that claim to be a
“chosen folk” steer an excellent propaganda machine that
refutes all events that do not follow their preconceived plan.
Interesting that all candidates for the US presidency went to
their leadership in DC in 2008 and begged their support. Does
it not raise a question when American leaders beg the support
of a comparatively tiny group of a tribe, which continue to try
to punish their “God” for not doing it the way they prescribed?

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 2:09 am Link to this comment

TO:DieDaily
THANKS
  SEMPER FI
GOD BLESS AMERICA ,and ALL those in HARMS WAY….......
many many years ........ many many different Hats ..... many great people military/ Civilian and ALL had HEART

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By DieDaily, January 2, 2010 at 1:32 am Link to this comment

Yeah, America’s the only hope, marine. I’m the first to agree. What do you think I’m doing here? I’ll bet there’s a lot you can’t talk about! But you should anyway. Then I could understand WTH you are getting at.

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 1:17 am Link to this comment

the mossad Agent was a DUD and screwed up 4 operations over 10 years that cost his country 11 good men
NOW he wants to make money on the loss of life….BAD FORM REALLY BAD FORM
WAR all war is bad all lies all theft are bad
but not ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD .....MANY LEADERS are BAD , a lot are just there and some ACTUALLY use a portion of their BRAIN but no Company /Country can be lead by bad PLANNING and without the CONSENT of THE PEOPLE   ,either by action or LACK THERE OF

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 1:09 am Link to this comment

RE:By DieDaily

Sorry   when One has seen what I have watched
had to overlook in the NAME of our Constitution .
The People whose lifes ae being protected and donot have any REAL clue as to what is really going on nor do they really want to know.

THERE are always bad apples in the Barrel , but the people who have spent 20 to 35 years before The rest of you folks knew there was a problem begging the Government to do more to help and protect Its Citizens ....
THEN maybe you would say OH !! gee this guy may have something ......
I have been in 14 countries over 35 years collecting (information, contacts and many angry enemys) when I retired I was given a Stippend and told Not to tlee what I knew well LUCK WOULD HAV IT THAT THE INTERNET PROSPERED and I write as much as I can . Sometimes just to stur up people to Ask QUESTIONS . I have been censured more than once by my own Government and told to keep Quite.At times I take the other view in Writting these little DITTIES…... But the Truth is THAT AMERICA IS STILL the BEST DEAL AROUND ..... Find me another I will take my little 42 ft Sail boat and go there ..... I currently have 5 children in various military actions , 2 in law enforcement , one running for public office yes I have a lot of kids and had a lot of wives because I worked my entire life toward a Better world .......It DOESNOT include killers,and a belief that one should kill because of ones difference in Religious Views .
Should I believe in A GOD I would say I am never going to be in his GRACE….and since I do believein Sin , I am sure that there is the dirrect opposite of GOD waiting for me .....and those like me .
I only hope that my actions were to protect my life and that of my friends in HARMS WAY at the time and not just for the sake of taking life.
THERE is no RIGHT ANSWER ,NO RIGHT WAY to Govern , and Certainly no RIGHT WAY TO DIE

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

RE: Arabian Sinbad,
Brother has this guy got the oh pitty me and gee whizzz   . I doubt you are Arabian and Sinbad the ACTOR   on the Movies is about as close to the OCEAN you have ever been….
you are 5’11” on welfare and mostlikely have not known how to read anyting but the Funny papers. THE only think I can say is you must have been overlooked in school or Quit to sell Crack…... Sorry “DUDE” I see you as someone who has never done an honest days work nor eve has the ability to learn another Language.IF you you ante up and play the cards you have been delt maybe you willnot have to( %^%^&&) in your tidy whities What?  give me a solution a workable one to the problems We have ?  I am certified MENSA and know many more folks whit real brains , They know ONLY THIS .WE ARE, HUMAN WE Must Co-exist,Killing is Wrong ,slavery is wrong ,poverty, filth,hunger are all wrong ........WE AS smart as we are donot have a solution and as much as I enjoy typing these letters they do no good….. Maybe WHEN I see God I ll ask if he/She prefers one
“Profit $$”  Over another ........

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By DieDaily, January 2, 2010 at 12:51 am Link to this comment

myloUSMC…wow, holy cow buddy, you gotta read this little thing called the Constitution. I mean you did swear an oath to uphold it, after all. Foreign wars: illegal. Globalist treaties: illegal. Search and seizure (and secret background checks): illegal. Obeying unlawful orders to massacre civilians: illegal. Being a blindly following pseudo-patriot like you: well, not illegal, but certainly frowned upon. Read that document you are sword to defend and preserve. Do it now. Then go to OathKeepers and get a taste of how real men in the military conduct themselves.

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 12:39 am Link to this comment

RE: Arabian Sinbad, January 2 at 1:22 am
I have dealt with the Mossulumeeeeee Attitude since 1973 when I watched 4 very wealth Mohammed loving believers spend $35,000 on women and liquor,  then went out TO NEIMAN MARCUS and rather than bath boutht 273.00 worht of purfume for men .They were attempting to Get american Citizens to invest in deals that were not real and sat and told me the AMERICAN PUBLIC was stupid and MOHAMMAD a and his followers would rid the WORLD of THE INFIDELS
I spent from that time until 1989 tracking following and participating in parties and Plans to rid the world of infidels…..... I finally got 3 arrested and because 2 had diplomatic immunity the GOVERNMENT let them go home!!!
another 143 of the same (HARRIS COUNTY) religious sect claimed that their right had been violated . 1992 caught 2 more selling bogus investments and telephone schemes
OH YES THE FOLLOWERS OF Mohammed are really SWEET honest and law abiding men . Who kidnap their AMerican Wives and the Children , Beat wifes, Screw anyone they can , live the good life then BERATE the AMERICAN for haveing Religious VALUES
now If you really donot like THE JEWS why not go and PROTEST /or better yet Confess that MOST Extreme   Male followers of     Mohammed   have PENIS envey and cannot get more than a rats life on their own ....
THE god   Mohammed spoke of was there only to benefit his personal HARAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. any negative response to this post will be ignored as it will be given by individuals with the ability to swing from trees
MOO HAMMMMM IDOIT, I donot doubt the RELIGION only the concept that any god thinks one Religion is better than another ,or Any man thinks he is more Qualified to determine what A GOD wants of his people

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By myloUSMC, January 2, 2010 at 12:07 am Link to this comment

RE: John Ellis, January 1 at 10:46 am

JOHN if :
1. AMERICA is so Bad then move
2. Be part of the solution
3. Join the military
4. let me do a background Check on you and interview your friends and family BET you have not had aperfect LIFE
5. IT is still really a government that has been the best in the modern world since it was started
6. You may need to consider visiting 72 virgins because we are never going to be in a perfect world atleast we no longer are Slaves nor do we have to live in Fear.
7. The American Indian is paying back the invaders,  they now make and take more money from Casinos than most of VEGAS
8. They sold back land and oil to the Invaders who were so smart that they gave the Indian in the Early 20th century millions of Acres of OIL land
9.Are you one of those people who cannot make it in the real world and have to have an Excuse.
10 Sorry I know intelligence doesnot know any borders so Accept the Fact you cannot deal with life as it is today andhave to dwell on ancient history.
11. Make history do something for your Country,your Family ,Friends and whatever God you pray to .

My only sorrow is that the Whinners in america believe it is someone elses Fault   that they are loosers….....
YES I do know who you are and believe me ,  you need a life

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By DieDaily, January 1, 2010 at 11:55 pm Link to this comment

OzarkMichael, ok, this is good, maybe we have some common ground. You don’t like Zionism, neither do I. But if you think this makes me pro-radical-Islam, or pro-Islamofascist, then that’s the problem, the mistake you are making. I have no time for radical Islam, and I don’t subscribe to Islamic religion or philosophy in general—at all! Is that clear?

Now, can you at least admit that it is inane to suggest that Mohamed was the FIRST guy to think of or write about the obvious fact that you don’t publish your battle-plan to your enemy? Duh! If you want to bet on that, put up some money. If I can’t find 100 historical references to using deception in war prior to the late-breaking Koran, I’ll eat my hat to boot. Hell I’ll eat my whole wardrobe. What a no-brainer.

How on earth can you equate anti-Zionist to pro-Muslim? I’m not either one! What is this a yes/no question? (A: NO, he he).

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By Robert, January 1, 2010 at 11:12 pm Link to this comment

“By Way of Deception” by Victor Ostrovsky, ex-Mossad agent


Victor Ostrovsky, author of “By Way of Deception”, was a high-ranking member of the Mossad, Israel’s ultra-secret intelligence department similar to the CIA, for several years before his sudden departure due to finding himself the fall guy for an embarrassing oversight by his superiors. He left Israel disillusioned, even disgusted, to return to his country of birth, Canada, and then courageously penned the extraordinary account of his experience while working for the Mossad. Ostrovsky’s revelations about the duplicitous, often criminal activities of the Mossad, is an exceptionally interesting read, especially for anyone who has become suspicious of the United States’ unconditional support of Zionist apartheid state of Israel.

In 1990, the government of Israel tried in vain to prevent this book from being published, as it includes surprisingly detailed accounts of the Mossad’s nefarious deeds, such as the many “false flag” operations (committing crimes and then making it look like others were responsible, such as Palestinian militants, for Israel’s political advantage), extensive espionage inside the United States, extra-judicial assassinations around the world, just to name a few.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=604968&s=866fdfa7e41f58827f54bf7284ea604a&

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By Robert, January 1, 2010 at 10:39 pm Link to this comment

By OzarkMichael, January 1 at 9:53 pm #

“Robert said Israel’s “Mossad Motto” ‘By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War’

Since Robert has a track record of not telling the truth, I was a bit surprised when the saying seemed familiar as if it really had been said. I almost bought that Robert’s lie until i remembered where it comes from.

Do you know where it comes from, Robert? Of course you do.

It came from Mohammed himself: “War is Deception”

Nice try, Robert.”

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ozarkmichael

Surely you have heard of Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of Deception”. He spent 4 years in Israel’s Mossad. Your pale efforts and deceptive garbage are a way of life for your kind…sayanim.

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CONFESSIONS OF AN EX-MOSSAD AGENT

Excerpt from Victor Ostrovsky’s, “By way of deception”

NOTE: Needless to say, the Israeli Lobby has demanded (and gotten) a total ban on this book in all major bookstore chains, while pro-Israeli experts have trashed it at every opportunity. Ostrovsky’s book is available only online at places like Amazon

Revealing the facts as I know them from my vantage point of four years spent inside the Mossad was by no means an easy task.

Coming from an ardent Zionist background, I had been taught that the state of Israel was incapable of misconduct. That we were the David in the unending struggle against the ever-growing Goliath. That there was no one out there to protect us but ourselves - a feeling reinforced by the Holocaust survivors who lived among us.

We, the new generation of Israelites, the resurrected nation on its own land after more than two thousand years of exile, were entrusted with the fate of the nation as a whole.

The commanders of our army were called champions, not generals. Our leaders were captains at the helm of a great ship. I was elated when I was chosen and granted the privilege to join what I considered to be the elite team of the Mossad.

But it was the twisted ideals and self-centered pragmatism that I encountered inside the Mossad, coupled with this so-called team’s greed, lust, and total lack of respect for human life, that motivated me to tell this story.

It is out of love for Israel as a free and just country that I am laying my life on the line by so doing, facing up to those who took it upon themselves to turn the Zionist dream into the present-day nightmare.

The Mossad, being the intelligence body entrusted with the responsibility of plotting the course for the leaders at the helm of the nation, has betrayed that trust. Plotting on its own behalf, and for petty, self-serving reasons, it has set the nation on a collision course with all-out war.

One of the main themes of this book is Victor’s belief that Mossad is out of control, that even the prime minister, although ostensibly in charge, has no real authority over its actions ...

Victor Ostrovsky, a former Israeli Mossad agent, wrote two books about Israel’s terror against their enemies. In one of them, he discusses the fate of Palestinians who illegally cross the border in search of work in Israel. Many thousands of these young men simply are never heard from again after being captured by Israel’s forces. Some of them are taken to the ABC research facilities where they endure the indescribable terror of chemical, nuclear or biological warfare.

The Mossad - believe it or not - has just 30 to 35 case officers, or katsas, operating in the world at any one time. The main reason for this extraordinary low total, as you will read in this book, is that unlike other countries, Israel can tap the significant and loyal cadre of the worldwide Jewish community outside Israel. This is done through a unique system of sayanim, volunteer Jewish helpers.”

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Click on link to read about Israel’s Mossad terror/war trails…“By way of deception, thou shalt do war”:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/deception.html

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By OzarkMichael, January 1, 2010 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

Robert starts: Israel’s “Mossad Motto” ‘By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War’

I replied that the concept of “War is Deception” originates from Mohammed, not the Mossad.

Diedaly jumps in: Maybe someday you can gain some credibility by being willing to discuss and present some facts.

Thank you for stepping right into that one, Diedaly.

The following is from Bukari volume 4, book 52, and not just one or two, but three consecutive hadith saying the exact same thing. The origin of Robert’s little quote comes from Islam, from Mohammed himself. Here is the reference, and dont forget that you asked for it:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.267

Diedaily said: Ozark, you expose yourself as a paid troll at every turn.

Its always profitable for me when you write ludicrous posts, Diedaly. You wouldnt believe the bonus i just earned from owning you in front of your friends.

Lets do it again sometime!

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 1, 2010 at 9:22 pm Link to this comment

By OzarkMichael, January 1 at 9:53 pm #

“It came from Mohammed himself: “War is Deception”
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I never seen someone so consumed with hatred for Muhammad and his followers as the evil OzarkMichael. He goes out of his way to show Muhammad and his followers in bad light by falsely attributing to them things he falsifies.

Well, OzarkMichael, may you be consumed with your own hatred till you drop dead so humanity can do without one more advocate of falsehoods!

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By jack, January 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm Link to this comment
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RE: It came from Mohammed himself: “War is Deception”

Of course: “All warfare is based on deception.” - Sun Tzu (c. 500 BC)... and still is: “Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the state.” - James Jesus Angelton - Director of CIA Counter Intelligence (1954-74)

The question: who is the enemy? Let’s take the “The Great Fire of Rome”. Most historians blame Nero (then Emperor) for causing this blaze, who then blamed Christinas, leading to their wholesale persecution. From such a distance in time, it’s hard to say for sure, but then he built a palace over the ruins of the fire. Qui bono?

Più di recente, a chi è buono? The King David Hotel bombing was an attack carried out by the militant Zionist group Irgun. Disguised as Arabs, Irgunists planted a bomb in the basement of the main building of the hotel, under the wing which housed the Mandate Secretariat and part of the British military headquarters.

Ancore, a chi è buono? Vincenzo Vinciguerra, a far-right terrorist, had already revealed Gladio’s existence during his 1984 trial. Gladio was involved in the “strategy of tension” (Italian: strategia della tensione) during the “lead years”, which started with Piazza Fontana bombing in December 1969. Thirty years later, during a trial of right-wing extremists, General Giandelio Maletti, former head of Italian counter-intelligence, claimed that the massacre had been carried out by the Italian stay-behind army and right wing terrorists on orders of the CIA in order to discredit the Italian Communist Party (PCI).

Un’altra volta, a chi è buono? The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli jet fighter planes, followed shortly by motor torpedo boats, on June 8, 1967,  during the on-going Six-Day War. By all accounts, there is no option for a mistaken identity of this ship.

Finalmente, a chi è buono? Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication; article by MR. CHARRINGTON on JANUARY 7, 2008

BBC’s killer documentary called “The Power of Nightmares“.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&rls=en&q=the+power+of+nightmares&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Grk-
S_nBLY6AswPC7qi7BA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQqwQwAA#

Top CIA officials openly admit, Al-qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundreds of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Government’s story of Al-qaeda, a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after. This video documentary is off the hook…

http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html

Robert Scheer, where is your Ramparts Spirit? You had the guts to expose Operation Phoenix, why not the heinous rolling black-op/psy-op that is THE GLOBAL WAR OF TERROR?

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By DieDaily, January 1, 2010 at 6:39 pm Link to this comment

Thanks, OzarkMichael, for confirming that the MOSADs motto is exactly as Robert said. (And thanks for the blah blah color blah blah innuendo blah blah ad hominem too! Always funny!)

Ozark, you expose yourself as a paid troll at every turn. Maybe someday you can gain some credibility by being willing to discuss and present some facts. As it stands, we offer you some facts, you whine and cry and slight and squirm. Read back over these comments. Pick some facts. Research your counter argument (lol) and present it. Is that such a hard thing to do?

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By OzarkMichael, January 1, 2010 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment

Robert said Israel’s “Mossad Motto” ‘By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War’

Since Robert has a track record of not telling the truth, I was a bit surprised when the saying seemed familiar as if it really had been said. I almost bought that Robert’s lie until i remembered where it comes from.

Do you know where it comes from, Robert? Of course you do.

It came from Mohammed himself: “War is Deception”

Nice try, Robert.

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 1, 2010 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Another false flag operation intended by an ever-growing police state apparatus to gain control over the last private thing people have, which is their private parts!

Next time I am going to fly, I will shit in my underwear before boarding the plane to prove to everyone that no serious weapon of mass destruction can be accommodated under one’s underwear other than the terrible smell of a false flag operation.

Moreover, as a natural psychologist, seeing the innocent face of the alleged perpetrator, the young Omar Faruq, I cannot believe that he is willingly capable of the act he’s being accused of doing. He must be a victim of circumstances that we unfortunately will never learn about.

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By gerard, January 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment

The endless “war on terror” becomes the employer of last resort, paying tens of thousands of soldiers, and employing tens of thousands of workers in the “military-industrial complex” who otheriwse would have no jobs.

“Terrorists” move from one country to another. They are also made up of men who have no other job.  Their activities create more jobs for more young men who have no other jobs.  If there is no money to pay them or eqipment for them to use fighting, money from the US pays for it as “counter-terrorism” and the “military-industrial complex” makes more money than ever. 

War is the “cash cow” of the present world economy, believe it or not.  America First, Semper fi to Wall Street, K Street and the Road to Hell.

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By 9circlesofhell, January 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

-faith-

Mr. Scheer can’t do that ... and if he could, he surely would pause before saying
what should be said and that is ... our vote doesn’t count (and, as shown in the
past three elections, often our vote isn’t even counted) and voting is not the
way to change an abysmally dysfunctional system that is controlled and ruled
by the very people who would like the mantra to be “just vote em out.”

Think about it ... in your lifetime, what did “voting” ever do to fundamentally
change the mindset and methodology of our Congress and administrations ...
very little in fact.  The system remains the same ... common Americans go out
and work, pay taxes, and give their “voice” to 535 yahoos who are -by law-
suppose to represent us.  They don’t do that because the very system they
support compels them to silence our (we the people) voice in favor of the much
louder, more powerful voice of lobbyists and their sponsors ... the military
industrial complex being one of those with vested interests in our
congressional representatives.

That helps to explain why the United States has money and a mindset for drones that kill militants -and civilians- from miles above while failing to stop the most primitive attempt (we’re talking Flintstone technology here ... studding material in underwear) to take down a commercial airliner.

As such, each time our Congress, our administration, our political system in general hears a pundit, a preacher, a man or women on the
street -or in a blog- say, “here’s what we can do, we’ll vote them out next
election” -they slap each other on the back and, with a guffaw, quip, “that’s right, that’s it, you silly civic-minded automaton, vote us out!”

Well, the question then must be asked, “so, now that we voted out Senator or Representative X, do we expect Y?”  The conventional wisdom is of course, we expect Y, however, history has shown us that we simply get a slightly altered version of X ... and the band plays on for another four or six years -and we the people become quiet again.  The system only works for them, it does not work for we the people.

What can we the people truly do?  Don’t vote and don’t pay taxes ... that will
make Congress irrelevant.  Anything else is simply lip-sync.

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By truedigger3, January 1, 2010 at 10:56 am Link to this comment

Re: By John Ellis, January 1 at 10:46 am #


You are judging Thomas Jefferson very harshly and unfairly.
Yes, he owned slaves and had racist views, but hey, that was TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO where there were differnt thinking and beliefs.
That was THEN and we are NOW.
You are judging him with standards completely different from the standars and thinking of his time.!! 
It is like you are judging the genius Isaac Newton as a know-nothing ignoramus because he didn’t know nuclear physics.!!??

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By denk, January 1, 2010 at 10:47 am Link to this comment

here’s change alright…..
obama has a five yr plan to control EIGHT countries…he is one up on bush !
http://tinyurl.com/yj9g382

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By Leefeller, January 1, 2010 at 10:14 am Link to this comment

Throwing money and lives down a black hole (money lines pockets)  is always preferred to building infrastructure for that infers the all bad socialism.

So we have the same Vietnam like mentality in the 21st century or is it really just the same mentality since the dawn of history, sort of like governmental ground hog day?

Happy New Year, change and hope is in the air, you may see it as it passes like passing wind, if you have ever seen passing wind?

Yep, another year and another opportunity.

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By bozhidar balkas, vancouver, January 1, 2010 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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None of the nondescriptive utterances can be understood; they can be only interpreted.
Constitutions, qoran, bible,torah, mein kampf, communist manifesto, any sermon, social science,philosophy teem with overgeneralizations and generalizations.

Until read or reared and [re]interpreted, constitution or bible is as dead as a door nail.
The fact that they were scribed together by dead men, which no longer can be questioned ab what they meant with what they put dwn on paper, adds to the confusion.

US constitution, i educe, must have commanded-demanded that only the supremes [not dianna ross’]be permitted to interpret US constitution.

Only congress and white house have a say who will be in supreme court. Judges will always fish up just the right interpretation to uphold the constitution and the congress-WH’ doings.

So, slavery was a constitutional demand; at least till mid-19th century. Terror against blacks after the civil war was also in acccord with the interpretation of the constitution by congress-wh-court.
And the wagons are circled.

Torture is or was, or is off and on, here but not there, or there but not here, is also a constitutional OK or even a command. How ab wars? Cia terror? A-bombings of hironaga? As american as apple pie!

So, what we have here is the best feudal governance ever developed. Not perfect, huh? Not to worry! It can be ‘improved’.
tnx

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By Robert, January 1, 2010 at 9:53 am Link to this comment

By Gmarks, January 1 at 1:19 pm #

“Ozark Michael is probably posting from someplace FAR FAR away from Missouri.

He’s here for a specific purpose.

He will monitor every post that argues successfully that Israel and the United States intel agencies are joined at the hip in False Flag operations.”

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GMarks,

You are onto something there!

Israel’s “Mossad Motto” ‘By Way of Deception, thou shalt do War

**************


Fake Al Qaeda Actors EXPOSED! Adam Gadahn & Yousef al-Khattab


A Must See Short Video

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Click on link to watch who these “Terrorists ???” really are? Have you seen them on CNN ... FOX NEWS & other zionist controlled medias…etc…?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0

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By Robert, January 1, 2010 at 9:32 am Link to this comment

Flight 253 Eyewitness: Authorities Are Lying About Terror Attack

Aaron Foley

MLive.com

Thursday, Dec 31st, 2009

“Following up on a visit from FBI officials about an eyewitness account first described to MLive.com, Michigan attorney Kurt Haskell described the visit in comment sections across MLive on Wednesday.

Haskell and his wife, Lori, were aboard Flight 253 when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab allegedly tried to destroy the plane. They say another man tried to help Abdulmutallab board the plane in Amsterdam.

Haskell had two detailed posts in two different stories. Here is Part One, originally posted here:

Today is the second worst day of my life after 12-25-09. Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans. Let me explain.

Ever since I got off of Flight 253 I have been repeating what I saw in US Customs. Specifically, 1 hour after we left the plane, bomb sniffing dogs arrived. Up to this point, all of the passengers on Flight 253 stood in a small area in an evacuated luggage claim area of an airport terminal. During this time period, all of the passengers had their carry on bags with them. When the bomb sniffing dogs arrived, 1 dog found something in a carry on bag of a 30 ish Indian man.”

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Click on link for the rest of article:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/flight-253-eyewitness-authorities-are-lying-about-terror-attack.html

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By denk, January 1, 2010 at 8:40 am Link to this comment

By OzarkMichael,
**. It only proves the old capitalist adage: “There is a sucker born every minute.” **

who’s the sucker here ?

http://tinyurl.com/mumupz

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By OzarkMichael, January 1, 2010 at 7:39 am Link to this comment

DieDaily: As you can see, what [Tony Wicher] has given us is copyrighted material that we are supposed to pay for.

That means Tony Wicher pays good money to read conspiracy fiction.

It only proves the old capitalist adage: “There is a sucker born every minute.”

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By M Henri Day, January 1, 2010 at 4:57 am Link to this comment

Mandinka, I sympathise with your need to assess your own competence in interpreting the US Constitution so highly, but I suggest that the next time you wish to make public reference to this putative capability, you refrain from suggesting that Thomas Jefferson is responsible for the choice of verbs in the Constitutions preamble. Mr Jefferson was, as some of your interlocutors will surely be aware, ambassador of the confederal government to France from 1784 to 1789, while the Constitutional Convention took place in Philadelphia in 1787. But perhaps Jefferson, who as we know possessed an abiding interest in technology, texted a message to the Convention’s leaders admonishing them to use the proper verbs ?...

Henri

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By DieDaily, January 1, 2010 at 3:21 am Link to this comment

Outraged, it seems to me that it would be inconceivable for any big organization to contain only bad or only good people. The constitutional oath-swearing mechanism was built on this notion. The founders, being rather bright and astute historians and philosophers noted that if you have an oath to a person or office, then you get Caesarism, resulting in, essentially a de facto king. If you instead have them swear no oath, you get Junta-ism, overthrow by military factions that fancy they have the right interpretation of the law or that they must break the law to depose an unjust Caesar.

The founders are the first and only political architects to have resolved the dilemma, except arguably the anarchists. The founders kept the oath, but bound it to a LAW that specifically derived ALL of its power from the people, allowing servants, even the president, ONLY the right to protect and preserve that LAW and the OBLIGATION of any servant of any rank or office to opt out of or defy any order not within the purview of the powers explicitly granted them by the people via the law. Brilliant. No parallels in recorded history whatsoever.

Now they did remark that the law was suitable only for the governance of a moral people. But they were not naive, and realized that only a fraction of the servants of the people would be incorruptible and well enough educated in civics even to know what is and is not lawful. These few were deemed to be sufficient, IF AND ONLY IF the public were itself sufficiently well versed in civics to support the law (and the whistle-blowers and objectors) when the servants got out of line and pursued personal goals or illegal orders from above.

As a populace we have been crappy at that since, well, say 1900 or so. Therefore our whistle-blowers have been crucified time and again and we have done nothing, whereas we should have risen up, even with arms if needed, but certainly with impeachments and mass demonstrations to support the. Then we griped about the lack of whistle-blowers. Nonsense!

In the last, say, few years we have really been turning it around. ONLY because of that, whistle-blowers are finally feeling that there is actually some point in coming out. It’s all on us, the public, and it always has been. Crying about corruption is useless unless we actively, forcefully, and directly support whistle-blowers and objectors. Period. Party lines BE DAMNED.

Outraged, I’m with you on this. It’s not just possible that both good and bad people coexist in all of these agencies, it obviously so. It always has been, always is, and always will be this way. The constitution can not function to check the many bad ones except and unless we the people support every one of the few oath keepers so as to rout out every oath breaker as he or she is thus detected. We have fallen from voluntarism to nanny-ism, so we now have sick, twisted and basically fascistic rats nest for a government while we pretend that a “right” or “left” is the bad side. Abs

It’s all on us. We fix it by get back to basics. The founders’ thinking has in no way been diminished by the passage of time and the changes in circumstance. We the people have failed to utilize the layer upon layer of checks and balances we were handed. Now we are extremely vulnerable to either Caesarism (Obama) or Junta-ism (pentagon, corporations). It’s time to take, renew and keep our oaths to the constitution. This is NOT a right- or left-wing position, nor could it ever be. It’s a simple statism vs. individualism quandary. I’m for individualism. Statism sucks eggs. All this fake left vs. right thinking is just BS state-worship. It obscures every real issue and makes us fight among ourselves while the thieves plant bombs and sow fear and isolation. The state needs to be reduced to about 10% of its current size and power. We CAN be trusted to rule ourselves and organize our communities. We are NOT children. We ARE waking up.

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By wrusssr, January 1, 2010 at 2:26 am Link to this comment
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Uh-oh.  Here comes another terrorist with a match in
his undies.

Or was it a detonator in his jockeys? Answers to the
name of Lucky, now. This whole thing is kind of
quacky but. . .it doesn’t look like a duck.

And then there was a sharply dressed dude who
supposedly aided Mutallab?

For readers unfamiliar with the conventions of
international air travel, try boarding any
international flight into the U.S. nowadays without a
passport and watch the excitement.  Better than any
in-flight movie. 

Not done unless prior arrangements have been made at
the point of departure.

Do you suppose this Mutallab had inside help?

Then there are those pesky eye witnesses. Ever notice
how they seldom matter to authorities anymore unless
they have been planted to re-enforce things for
viewers like oh, say, a false flag operation?

- Who was on the check-in counter at Amsterdam?

- Who was on the security/passport check at the gate
in the departure lounge?

- Who was manning the bomb detection equipment at the
multiple security checks between   check-in and gate?

- Who has been fired as a result of this security
lapse? (Answer: Nobody, because there was no security
lapse.)

- Maybe Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab had two
accomplices?

The Muslim tickler went off after eight hours of the
flight, ten minutes prior to landing in Detroit.

According to one on-board witness, a man sitting a
few rows behind the bomber videotaped the entire
eight-hour flight, including the attempted
detonation.

Witnesses said “. . . he videotaped the entire thing,
very calmly, and that the FBI is looking for him
[but] we have heard nothing about it.” 

Who videotapes passengers in a flight cabin for eight
hours? Does the FBI have this lengthy documentary?
Will he and Gore win an Oscar for it?

Let’s see, he waited eight hours until the flight was
well over U.S. soil, thus guaranteeing there would be
enough evidence (crash or no crash) to provide a
piece of propaganda for those timeless Al Qaeda
bogeymen.

The bomber appeared to be in a trance, according to
witnesses. Was he on some kind of psychoactive drug?
The CIA has been known to experiment with—and dope—
patsies for mind-control purposes. But then, we
already knew that.

His father had previously alerted the US authorities,
who proceeded to do . . . nothing.

Quote from MSM: [The terrorist’s] father, a rich
Nigerian banker, went to the US embassy in Nigeria on
November 19 and said my son is in Yemen in a
terrorist camp, do something about this.

The son was allowed to buy a one-way
ticket for twenty-five hundred (+) cash in Ghana.

Of course they didn’t do anything. Not after they
went to the trouble of setting up the charade. That
would have stopped the incident.

Whatever the real story, we keep hearing a condensed
24/7 holiday version of that favorite old familiar
false flag chant—Al Qaeda. . . Al Qaeda. . .Al Qaeda.

Must be folk out there somewhere that still believe
it.

Who would benefit as a result of this incident?

- Security and surveillance sector.

- Defense contractors and manufacturers.

- Neocons, one-worlders, and puppeteers behind the
curtain.

- Airport vendors selling open-back hospital gowns.

- Corporate-owned propaganda outlets (aka main stream
media—MSM)?

Who loses as a result of this incident?

- Ordinary people.

- Civil rights.

- Muslims not suicidal.

CUI BONO.  It’s the first question law enforcement
asks when investigating any serious crime except for
incidents like this and 9/11 and the contaminated
swine flu vaccine sent to Latvia for general
population inoculations.

Strange. It seems when these false flag incidents
occur or are attempted, the rule book is abandoned.

Somehow, the real perps and criminals just keep right
on walking.

Stay tuned, though.  More of the popular false flag
show will be coming right up.

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By Outraged, January 1, 2010 at 2:16 am Link to this comment

Re: myloMSMC

Your comment: “I suppose ther really are no right or wrong answers only bad Questions.”

I disagree.  It appears incumbent upon us to answer what you have slighted as, “only bad Questions”.  These are not “bad questions” they are PERTINENT questions.  Again will or CAN you address the most pertinent issues.  My last post directed towards you:

(you)“I am A Marine and when young read the The Iwo Jima flag rasisinghad been done 3 times and the photo we got at the time was posed….. now here we are with 10 years of embedded journalist and 2 Presidents later with the same problems which did in fact exist for the last 40 years who in their right mind would give weapons to another country then take them away the give them more to use against our own troops….

(me) This was exactly my point.  How did you find this out?  This was the thought portion of my question, “Is it possible for there to be both decent and corrupt people working for the same entity…?  If you think it improbable or impossible, who do you suppose it is that LEAKS sensitive information to journalists regarding corruption?”  If there is controversy, how do you arrive at the truth…. isn’t it by using the investigative journalism skills of others of this same entity we call “the press”....?

Your comment: “TRUTH if you see it in print use it as toilet paper , if you view it on the Screen consider it a cartoon

(me) This negates those who do fact-check, investigate and question.  Again, why or what leads you to accept one account over another and how do you know when you’ve found the truth?  It is journalism which gives you this information, if you read “the facts” in a book, how do you that those are THE FACTS?

Ann Coulter writes books, should I believe what she writes?  Ann Coulter is not mainstream, she’s lunatic fringe, but she does write books.  Simply because it is not mainstream DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN TRUST THE SOURCE.  In this same vein, simply because some journalists are mainstream DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.

If I read something in a book, it may or may not be accurate.  Again, how do we arrive at the truth of the matter and if you work for any given mainstream press entity is it plausible to then automatically be dubbed a liar?

Outside of that, yes…. I agree there’s a shitload of propaganda/lies circulating out there by those who call themselves “the press”.  But it isn’t everyone.”

Side stepping does not make the reality defunct.  Again, at least ATTEMPT to answer the questions as they were presented.

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By DieDaily, January 1, 2010 at 1:35 am Link to this comment

Tony Wicher, brilliant and accurate, but nobody other than myself and a very few others will wade into your over-lengthy prose. You need, next time, to summarize it into bullet points that fit into a single comment and provide the link to the full deal. What you have done is provide fantastic analysis that is of little or no use because it is essentially spamming the system. Incredibly great, spot-on work, though. I hope some will brave the length and REALLY absorb what you have provided, but don’t do that again!

Here is the absolutely f*****g brilliant Wayne Madson work which Tony Wicher has (I fear) spammed us with below:

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20091230

As you can see, what he has given us is copyrighted material that we are supposed to pay for. Not sure this is proper, but thanks.

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By Tony Wicher, January 1, 2010 at 1:10 am Link to this comment

Wayne Madsen report, part 4 (continued from below)

After dropping out of the MBA program in Dubai, the younger Mutallab turned off his cell phone and destroyed the phone’s SIM card before leaving Dubai for Yemen where it is said he wished to imrove his Arabic. It is not known who bought Mutallab’s ticket to Detroit in Accra and why the return destination was changed from Accra to Lagos. Mutallab’s multiple entry visa for the United States was issued on June 16, 2008 with an expiration date of June 16, 2010.
In response to the elder Mutallab’s warning, the U.S. embassy in Abuja, the embassy sent a Visa Viper cable to the State Department and NCTC on November 20. However, Mutallab’s name was not added to the no-fly list. The State Department is refusing to disclose the classification of Mutallab’s visa and State Department spokesman Ian Kelly is refusing to reveal information on Mutallab’s visa application.
The Daily Trust of Abuja penned the following editorial in the aftermath of the flight 253 incident: “The story caused anxiety among regular air travellers, not only for the safety of planes, but also for the kind of reception that Nigerian travellers to Europe and the US, especially Muslim ones, are likely to get in the next months and years. The story also excited Northern Nigeria’s many conspiracy theorists, who think another grand Western plot is in the offing to tarnish the image of Muslims, possibly as a prelude to another invasion.” The editorial added, “Among officials of Nigeria’s embattled Federal Government, though, the story caused a mix of anxiety and relief. Anxiety, because it threatens to throw this country’s fitful Rebranding Campaign into further chaos. But it provided welcome relief from endless newspaper commentaries on President Yar’adua’s health.”
The Nigerians are obviously suspicious also about those behind the attempt on the aircraft. The Abuja editorial continues: “Bringing down a plane is not a thought that comes easily to people in Northern Nigeria. Most people here, with me as a typical example, cannot breathe easily in a plane until it hits the tarmac. A man who holds fast to a plane’s aluminium frame for support during a turbulent take-off hardly can think of bombing it. This explosive substance that Faruk allegedly used in the Delta Airlines plane, pentaerythritol or PETN, may be known to British school kids, but I have never heard of it. To think that I once taught in a university’s Faculty of Science. If indeed Faruk told the Americans that he was an Al-Qaeda operative, then he was a very poor one, to be frank. His bomb, which he said he got in Yemen, was weak [exploding like a fire cracker] and technically deficient [failed to go off properly]. He was easily subdued by a film producer, did not struggle when he was grabbed, did not say anything when they held him, and almost as soon as he reached the FBI station, he began to sing like a canary. Sounds very much like the gentle British lad that he is.”

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By Tony Wicher, January 1, 2010 at 1:09 am Link to this comment

On October 18, a little less than a month prior to the attempt by the syringe- and chemical-armed Somali to board the Daallo Airlines flight from Mogadishu, Shaykh Muqtaar Abu Zubeyr, the leader of Somalia’s radical Al Shahab Islamic Movement, warned Somalis in leaflets distributed in Mogadoshu’s Bakaraha market and other points in the city not to fly on Daallo Airlines, Somalia’s largest carrier, because he said the airline had “close ties” with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia, the United States and the “Jewish government” of Israel.
Before moving from Egypt, Mutallab was in an MBA course in Dubai at the time of the Daallo warning. Mutallab later dropped out of school in Dubai.
Mutallab’s father Umaru, the retired Chairman of First Bank of Nigeria (FBN), is among the top elite of Nigeria, counting among his friends the top royalty of northern Nigeria, including the Emir of Gombe, the Emir of Zazzau, and the Sultan of Sokoto, as well as Nigerian President Umaru Musa Yar’ Adua, who has been recovering from a mysterious illness in Saudi Arabia. Mutallab’s empire included FBN (UK), which its president described as “the very first UK bank owned by a Nigerian bank and could be counted as an equal to other UK banks.” Mutalan was also a contender to be President of the National Council of the Nigeria Stock Exchange. In 2003, Mutallab formed Nigeria’s first Islamic bank, Jaiz International Bank.
The same bureaucratic stove-piping issues used by the U.S. intelligence and law enforcement communities to explain away the lack of intelligence on the 9/11 attacks are at play with the Delta 253 incident. Of course, all these problems were to have been solved by the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the Directorate of National Intelligence. Mutallab was entered as a terrorist suspect in the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment (TIDE) database of 500,000 names maintained by the Director of National Intelligence’s National Counter-terrorism Center (NCTC) but not on the “no fly” list maintained by the Transportation Security Administration(TSA).
On November 19, just six days after the Somali attempted to board the plane in Mogadishu with a syringe and chemicals, the elder Mutallab met with the CIA Station Chief at the U.S. embassy in Abuja, the Nigerian capital. Mutallab told the CIA official that he was concerned about the radicalization of his son, who was called “Alfa”—a term for Islamic scholar—while attending the British International School in Lome, Togo. The elder Mutallab was quite emphatic that his son posed a significant security risk.

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By Tony Wicher, January 1, 2010 at 1:05 am Link to this comment

Wayne Madsen Report, part 3 (continued from below)

On October 18, a little less than a month prior to the attempt by the syringe- and chemical-armed Somali to board the Daallo Airlines flight from Mogadishu, Shaykh Muqtaar Abu Zubeyr, the leader of Somalia’s radical Al Shahab Islamic Movement, warned Somalis in leaflets distributed in Mogadoshu’s Bakaraha market and other points in the city not to fly on Daallo Airlines, Somalia’s largest carrier, because he said the airline had “close ties” with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia, the United States and the “Jewish government” of Israel.
Before moving from Egypt, Mutallab was in an MBA course in Dubai at the time of the Daallo warning. Mutallab later dropped out of school in Dubai.
Mutallab’s father Umaru, the retired Chairman of First Bank of Nigeria (FBN), is among the top elite of Nigeria, counting among his friends the top royalty of northern Nigeria, including the Emir of Gombe, the Emir of Zazzau, and the Sultan of Sokoto, as well as Nigerian President Umaru Musa Yar’ Adua, who has been recovering from a mysterious illness in Saudi Arabia. Mutallab’s empire included FBN (UK), which its president described as “the very first UK bank owned by a Nigerian bank and could be counted as an equal to other UK banks.” Mutalan was also a contender to be President of the National Council of the Nigeria Stock Exchange. In 2003, Mutallab formed Nigeria’s first Islamic bank, Jaiz International Bank.
The same bureaucratic stove-piping issues used by the U.S. intelligence and law enforcement communities to explain away the lack of intelligence on the 9/11 attacks are at play with the Delta 253 incident. Of course, all these problems were to have been solved by the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the Directorate of National Intelligence. Mutallab was entered as a terrorist suspect in the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment (TIDE) database of 500,000 names maintained by the Director of National Intelligence’s National Counter-terrorism Center (NCTC) but not on the “no fly” list maintained by the Transportation Security Administration(TSA).
On November 19, just six days after the Somali attempted to board the plane in Mogadishu with a syringe and chemicals, the elder Mutallab met with the CIA Station Chief at the U.S. embassy in Abuja, the Nigerian capital. Mutallab told the CIA official that he was concerned about the radicalization of his son, who was called “Alfa”—a term for Islamic scholar—while attending the British International School in Lome, Togo. The elder Mutallab was quite emphatic that his son posed a significant security risk.

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By Tony Wicher, January 1, 2010 at 12:59 am Link to this comment

Wayne Madsen Report, continued from below


The neocon spin machine is also refuting reports that Mutallab traveled to the United States without a passport and that his ticket was only one-way. The facts emerging are that Mutallab was not traveling on a Nigerian passport but on an Italian passport. Mutallab’s father, Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, happens to hold the Italian Order of Merit. In addition, Mutallab’s ticket was purchased in Accra, Ghana with $2,831 in cash and was later re-issued, on December 16, with a different itinerary at the KLM office in Lagos. The original itinerary was Lagos-Amsterdam-Detroit-Amsterdam-Accra but the return leg on January 8, 2010, was changed from Amsterdam to Lagos instead of Accra.
Previously, WMR reported that the security company that cleared Mutallab in Schiphol is ICTS, a firm that is headquartered in Israel and Amstelveen, Netherlands. The firm also cleared attempted shoe bomber Richard Reid for a Miami-bound American Airlines flight from Paris in December 2001. Reid, who was bound for Antigua, was profiled after he purchased his ticket at a travel agency in the 18th arrondisement in Paris. Reid had previously traveled to Turkey, Pakistan, Israel, Egypt, the Netherlands, Belgium and France and he obtained pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN), a component of the explosive Semtex, and his specially-designed shoes in Amsterdam. Reid was linked by French authorities to French convert to Islam Jerome Courtailler, who, in 2004, was sentenced in absentia by a Dutch court to six years for plotting to attack U.S. targets in Belgium and France. Mutallab’s undershorts also contained PETN.

There is a possibility that Mutallab was recruited to carry out a false flag attack after another one failed on November 13. A Somali man was arrested at Mogadishu airport with the same chemicals, powder, and syringe combination that Mutallab used to ignite his clothing. The Somali man was attempting to board a Daallo Airlines flight from Mogadishu to Hargeisa, the capital of Somaliland, Djibouti, and Dubai. Daallo is the national flag carrier of Djibouti and is owned by Dubai World’s Istithmar World Aviation (IWA) Holdings. Dubai World’s recent financial woes sent shock waves through the global financial community. It is also noteworthy that Delta 253 passenger Jasper Schuringa, the young man who wrestled Mutallab to the ground and prevented him from carrying out his terrorist mission, was driven to Schiphol on Christmas morning by his friend Chris Van Amersfoort. Van Amersfoort’s Facebook page lists himself as a “fan of” Dubai World’s owner “His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al-Maktoum,” the Emir of Dubai.
Daallo Airlines has an interline agreement with a single U.S. airline, which happens to be Delta Airlines, the same airline that saw Mutallab successfully board its flight 253 in Schiphol. The ahas similar agreements with other airlines that fly to the United States, including Qatar Airways, Saudia, Ethiopian Airlines, and Alitalia.
Schuringa’s father works for Shell and in 1993 they were evacuated by the French foreign Legion from Gabon during riots by demonstrators opposed to the tainted re-election of Gabon’s presidential dictator Omar Bongo. The Curacao-born Jasper Schuringa attended film school in Miami and he also lived in Oman. After accusations in the media that he was publicizing himself over the Muttalab incident, Schuringa largely receded from public view. Schuringa was en route to Costa Rica via Detroit to visit his sister. The National Counter-terrorism office in The Hague is being mum about any connections it had with Schuringa, according to the Dutch paper Parool.

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By Tony Wicher, January 1, 2010 at 12:54 am Link to this comment

From the Wayne Madsen Report

December 30-31, 2009—Intelligence sources: Plane incident a false flag involving trinity of CIA, Mossad, and RAW. The Christmas Day attempt by the Nigerian son of a prominent Nigerian banker and business tycoon connected closely to top Nigerian leaders to detonate a chemical improvised explosive device aboard Delta Airlines flight 253 from Amsterdam Schiphol to Detroit was a false flag operation carried out by the intelligence tripartite grouping of the CIA, Mossad, and India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), according to WMR’s Asian intelligence sources who closely monitor the activities of the three agencies in India and Southeast Asia.

The tripartite alliance of the CIA, Mossad, and RAW were behind the terrorist attacks on Mumbai earlier this year and on December 28, Rupee News reported the three agencies worked together, along with former Afghan KHAD intelligence agents, to assassinated former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto: “The Benazir assassination was pre-planned and executed via triangulation by Khad, RAW, CIA and Mossad using the most modern radio active weapons available in the market. The Israeli PM publicly admitted helping India in Kargil recently. The purpose of the covert Khad, RAW, CIA, Mossad operations is to destabilize Pakistan. The IMF plan to de-fang Pakistan in 2000 did not work, but provincial autonomy will make the center bankrupt triggering an implosion.”

The outcome of the failed terrorist attempt by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab on the Detroit-bound plane has resulted in major Christmas gifts for the neocons and militarists who still call the shots on U.S. policy: the deployment of privacy-invasive millimeter wave (MMW) full body scanning equipment at airports in North America and Europe [ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, Representative Peter King (R-NY), who is an ardent defender of the Catholic Church and its prelates in Ireland, has defended the scanning system which can image the naked bodies of passengers, including children and babies], an increase in the U.S. military and intelligence presence in Yemen, retention of US PATRIOT Act surveillance provisions, an increase in racial profiling of Arabs and Muslims—and because Mutallab is African—blacks in the United States, and more cumbersome travel restrictions for airline passengers.
The neocon propagandists are already spinning counter-claims to reports that indicate that Mutallab was a witting accomplice of a larger plot cooked up by American, Israeli, ajd Indian intelligence agents to carry out yet another false flag terror operation on American soil. The eyewitness testimonies of Michigan attorney Kurt Haskell and his attorney wife Lori Haskell are being pilloried by the corporate media after the two were featured on major U.S. television networks. Haskell and his wife witnessed a “well-dressed Indian man” arrange for Mutallab to board Delta 253 without a passport at the check-in desk at Schiphol. Haskell told CBS News: “Only the Indian man spoke, and what he said was, this man needs to board the plane, and he doesn’t have a passport. And the ticket agent then responded saying you need a passport to board the plane, and the Indian man then said he’s from Sudan. We do this all the time.” WMR has learned that the Indian man is suspected by Asian intelligence services of being an RAW agent who used his influence to convince airline and airport security personnel that Mutallab was a bona fide Sudanese refugee. Mutallab reportedly spent several hours in a Schiphol airport lounge before boarding the Delta flight. Dutch agents are reportedly scanning Schiphol CCTV footage and have reason to believe that Mutallab had accomplices at the airport, which bolsters the witness accounts of the Haskells. The FBI has interviewed the Haskells and the bureau, as is its modus operandi, appears to be intimidating witnesses and pressuring them to support the government’s party line.

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By OzarkMichael, December 31, 2009 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment

On December 31, 2009 at 12:19 pm Gmarks said: The sick sick sick part is that we never get more specific than SPECIAL INTERESTS - because to NAME the people who thump for perpetual war on Islam - is to be censored, erased, banned and forgotten.

Hmm. Lets test this theory. lets ‘NAME’ the people. Lets see if Gmarks is right. According him we will be censored, erased, banned and forgotten.

Better yet, lets have Gmarks name someone and see what happens: anybody notice that Lieberman went home in a funk after Al Franken cut him off…. then the progressives began demanding his head…

OK. so where is all the censoring, erasing, banning and forgetting? It looks like nothing happened to Al Franken, Gmarks, or the progressives.

I conclude from this that Gmarks knew it was safe to name Lieberman. That means Gmarks not only was wrong, but he knew he was wrong. That is called… lying. Not a good start.

Gmarks was not ‘censored’ ‘banned’ or ‘erased’... he just got exposed as a liar instead. And I promise not to ‘forget’ it.

More from Gmarks:We cannot survive as a nation if we are under house arrest by a 2% majority - and their lackeys on the religious right - who control the dialogue on each of these phoney baloney ‘attacks’...

As one of the ‘lackeys’, it seems to me that if Mohammed himself chopped off someone’s head you would still find a way to blame me for it.

Are you really under house arrest? No.

If you think that my civic participation is illegitimate because it places you in some sort of figurative house arrest, it almost sounds like you need to use force to attain freedom. Thats the vibe i am getting from you.

We either rattle our chains.. and throw off our oppressors… or remain a country under occupation and at war with a 5th of humanity.

I read you. The oppressor is me and apparently i am keeping America under my occupation. I am not sure what to say. Exactly what do you want?  Do you want me to give up my principles because you think yours are better? 

Do you want me to not have the choice to listen to talk radio? Are there websites you want to close down? Maybe you want people like me to quit voting. Or not be allowed to vote at all?

What do you want?

I want to know what you want from me that will fix this for you. I would appreciate an answer. i may not give you what you desire, but I want to know.

You are allowed to espouse your conspiracy theories. You just did it here. It isnt enough, you are still unhappy and feel you are ‘under house arrest’. Could it be that the main reason you are upset is that 75% of Americans just dont want to buy what you are selling?

I read what you write. i read some more. i still think you are wrong. Result: you will feel oppressed and mumble about throwing off my occupation of America. 

In your frustration you guys are edging towards the use of force. Isnt that where the frustration of the extreme Left is leading to? 

How is it different from the extreme Right? Except for the issues, its the exact same process.

You claim to be so oppressed but your words betray…. that you want to be an oppressor.

Another Circle Jerk on a progressive website.

Yep. But impotence is evident in your words.

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By denk, December 31, 2009 at 10:22 pm Link to this comment

**Hit them with fear on Monday and fear on Tuesday and fear every other day of the week. Don’t let up. Make the fear vectors come from various directions…..suicide bombers, cyber terrarists, sars, birdflu, swineflu, h1n1, global warming…....**
http://tinyurl.com/dl5osg

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By denk, December 31, 2009 at 8:48 pm Link to this comment

chris floyd
**a terrorist hit—like any illicit high—doesn’t last long. You always need another fix. Especially when your economy is sinking beneath the weight of rampant cronyism, corruption, poverty and inequality**

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By DRACULA, December 31, 2009 at 8:36 pm Link to this comment
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Anyone remember reading about the drug mules from south America that swallowed condoms full of cocaine for export into the US.

What happens when this technique is used to conceal explosives within the body using some kind of miniature detonation device that’s triggered by a radio frequency or a phone call. This may sound far fetched but I’ll bet not far off.

I know it’s unpatriotic to give any kind of credit to the guys that flew those planes into the WTC etc…but I can’t get over how successful and well choreographed that mission was.

These people are very smart and have the will and desire to commit these acts…and I see no end to them trying…and all the US does is to throw large sums of money at porous solutions that only benefit the corporations that make these stupid machines.

This is a case where the David and Goliath
metaphor is applicable and we all know how that ended.

Happy new year…

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By myloUSMC, December 31, 2009 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

to all readers of my comments I have problems at times with the system picking up all the correct numerals and individual letters.
though I do write with some wierd insertions their are times the individual letters donot end up being sent either becasue of a break in the communications line or wi fi falure.
I write at times on purpose with poor grammar to see if anyone actually reads this stuff and because I really know and believe “BIG Brother”  is watching .
Intel /Gove Computers have a way of overlooking comments full of spelling errors as it is the belief of some Intelligence agencys that poor spelling means no problems instead of the opposite…........ just another problem with Big Boy Government.. If one is going to moniter its population it should believe the population knows it is being monitered

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By myloUSMC, December 31, 2009 at 7:34 pm Link to this comment

Re:Outraged

YOU have a very good mind and apparently have used it to good Stead..I suppose ther really are no right or wrong answers only bad Questions.
The ability of the government to Govern is overwridden   by the Billions of Dollars at stake and the Root of The Democratic society. To Whit GET ahead,succeed, Win AS John McArthur {Pres of BankersLife and Casuality } once the most wealth man in theold Said ( “Idonot care if I m playing for money,marbles or pick up sticks, IWANT them ALL” )
So it is with George Soros, G.E. and Berkley/hathshire….. but at what point does The wealth and the power become a burden and kill the Golden Goose.
Which of these people even B.Pickens . the Hunt Brothers become nothing more tha Scavengers of life.

We many ,people,  individuals do have honor,respect , and the belief that to do on to others as you would have done onto you.
The few who believe do onto others before they screw you are the rotten apple in the barrel.

Our only hope as a Nation is to really dig deep and make sure the Barrel both Apple and PORK are cleaned out.

Thank   you for an intelligent response ,with goot thought given , I and though we may disagree on some minor points you at least have the courage of your convictions .. many people cannot even Express the most simple of thought.
thanks to the Educational system and attitude of it needs to be easy.
Good Luck in comming year
  Semper Fi
M.Wilson

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By mandinka, December 31, 2009 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Henri, I’ve verrrry comfortable with the constitution and its words, you as most libs are unable to understand the difference between Provide which = $$$$ and Promote which means Cheer leading. If the founders felt government had a financial interest they would have changed the wording from promote to provide. Jefferson was very exact in the words he used and left nothing open to interpretation. Were their divergent views yep but they consensed on the 1 we have

You may feel that allowing Trial lawyers to drive up healthcare costs and sucking $350B a year out of the healthcare sector is $$$ well spent but I would imagine that the public at large would be up in arms if the press even remotely did their jobs and reported on this outrage

Like it or not when the US has a sniffle the World catches a cold. Unless we are willing to stand up to the evil in the world and remove them we are abdicating our role as the world leader but more importantly the need to defend ourselves. If it means that there are a number of fatalities due to collateral damage in other countries s we take action, they can look in the mirror for the cause and solution

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By gerard, December 31, 2009 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment

Our economy depends on the military-industrial complex. The MIComplex needs wars to keep going and hire tens of thousands of people who would otherwise be jobless because our society has no other jobs.

Feeding the MIComplex requires constant war and constant fear. It requires enemies and allies. Enemies are “terrorists.”  Allies are those who “help us fight the terrorists.”  Any country (like Yemen) that can prove it has “terrorists” can buy military equipment from the MIComplex to “fight against our terrorists.”  Places like Yemen have thousands of young men without jobs too.  They can be soldiers, funded by the “War on Terror” to fight, which will keep them busy unless they are killed, in which case others . . . What will be the next country to have “terrorists”? and ask for our “help”?
  War has become a self-fulfilling economic prophesy.
It will take out the human race if we don’t stop it.

It’s a worldwide revolving door and the only business in town.  It’s international headquarters is Washington, D.C. It needs “terrorists” to keep it going.

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By M Henri Day, December 31, 2009 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment

Well, mandinka, perhaps you should consider rereading the US Constitution. The preamble explicitly names six goals to attain which the new system of government was formed, among them to «promote the general Welfare» and «provide for the common defence». Now the so-called Founding Fathers were far from a monolithic group and included among themselves sharply diverse opinions and points of view, but while I think that many of them would have viewed, say, the federal government taking measures to ensure the provision of adequate health care to the general population as falling under the «general Welfare» provision, I doubt that a significant number of them (at least if they didn’t own stock in or otherwise control armaments industries) would have regarded making aggressive war on the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan as relevant to the «common defence». In any event, as Thomas Jefferson was wont to note, it is for living generations to determine such forms and ends of government «as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness». You may feel that killing people abroad and maintaining a health-care system that enriches insurance company stockholders and executives while providing inadequate care at exaggerated cost to (some of) the country’s residents is most conducive to your own safety and happiness, but I am less certain that this is the view of the country at large. Your hubris contributes in some minor manner to the fall of the US Empire and is thus perhaps to be encouraged, but I can’t help thinking it would be a pity if the consequences of such stupidity were the extinction of the human race….

Henri

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By Outraged, December 31, 2009 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

Re: myloUSMC

Your comment: ” I am A Marine and when young read the The Iwo Jima flag rasisinghad been done 3 times and the photo we got at the time was posed….. now here we are with 10 years of embedded journalist and 2 Presidents later with the same problems which did in fact exist for the last 40 years who in their right mind would give weapons to another country then take them away the give them more to use against our own troops….

This was exactly my point.  How did you find this out?  This was the thought portion of my question, “Is it possible for there to be both decent and corrupt people working for the same entity…?  If you think it improbable or impossible, who do you suppose it is that LEAKS sensitive information to journalists regarding corruption?”  If there is controversy, how do you arrive at the truth…. isn’t it by using the investigative journalism skills of others of this same entity we call “the press”....?

Your comment: “TRUTH if you see it in print use it as toilet paper , if you view it on the Screen consider it a cartoon

This negates those who do fact-check, investigate and question.  Again, why or what leads you to accept one account over another and how do you know when you’ve found the truth?  It is journalism which gives you this information, if you read “the facts” in a book, how do you that those are THE FACTS?

Ann Coulter writes books, should I believe what she writes?  Ann Coulter is not mainstream, she’s lunatic fringe, but she does write books.  Simply because it is not mainstream DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN TRUST THE SOURCE.  In this same vein, simply because some journalists are mainstream DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.

If I read something in a book, it may or may not be accurate.  Again, how do we arrive at the truth of the matter and if you work for any given mainstream press entity is it plausible to then automatically be dubbed a liar?

Outside of that, yes…. I agree there’s a shitload of propaganda/lies circulating out there by those who call themselves “the press”.  But it isn’t everyone.

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By Bill Floyd, December 31, 2009 at 3:15 pm Link to this comment
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Please google
“PLANE BOMBER WITH WELL DRESSED MAN”

This is SCARE AMERICA II, OBAMA time.
“We’re under attack, fund the DEFENSE WARS” (5 now)
or “Drone Yemen”
It’s a CIA smoke and mirrors FEAR, FEAR, FEAR
brainwashing
Bill Floyd

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By jack, December 31, 2009 at 2:58 pm Link to this comment
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Q: where can I get 1 of those tin foil hats?

A: every page of The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition) could be
fashioned to serve…

The OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory) is literally the wildest of them all: a rag-tag
team of so-called Islamo-fanatics, directed by a dialysis cripple with a laptop from a
cave in the Hindu Kush, defeats the world’s most advanced air defense, with a handful
of box cutters and a dozen hours of flight simulator training, the toper being the
superhuman flying of AA77 into the Pentagon, executed by a “hi-jacker,” denied only
weeks prior permission to solo in a single-engine Cessna.

Amazingly, so many who claim with absolute certainty that the Bush regime lied about
virtually everything, surrounding the Global War Of Terror, seem to accept, almost
without question, the OCT, as sanctioned by The 9/11 Commission; nor do they seem
to question the commission’s standout members: Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chair
(director of oil giant Amerada Hess, business ties to Saudis Khalid bin Mahfouz, co-
chairman of Homeland Security Project, CFR member) and Philip D. Zelikow, Executive
Director (member of George W. Bush’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, member of
Bush-Cheney transition team).

Senator Max Cleland, who initially served on the Commission, was the only outspoken
member. He compared the Kean Commission to the Warren Commission: “The Warren
Commission blew it. I’m not going to be part of that. I’m not going to be part of
looking at information only partially. I’m not going to be part of just coming to quick
conclusions. I’m not going to be part of political pressure to do this or not do that.”

Now if Senator Max Cleland, disabled US Army veteran of the Vietnam War, a recipient
of the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat, qualifies for your
“tin-foil” slander, so be it; I’ve given my recommendation on your quest for head gear.

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By mandinka, December 31, 2009 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

War spending is bankrupting the empire??/ Hardly.. Defense accounts for only 20% of all federal spending and the only outlay called for in the constitution.
We’ve been waging a “war on poverty” for over 40 years and what do we have to show for it?? Nothing the levels of poverty remain unchanged after untold billions. Gov’t is never the solution that’s why the founders wanted a limited role for the national government

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By CottonMan, December 31, 2009 at 2:49 pm Link to this comment
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Good God!! When you step on a snake, it will turn to bite you….and this is what the Islamic radicals are doing to America so why wasn’t the ‘system’ prepared for this bomber? 

When we have a courrpt government, corrupt/career politicians & massive bureaucracy then these things will happen.  Too many fingers in the pie & I’m tired of the federal govt.  The levey’s in New Orleans still aren’t fixed & they are trying to fight world terrorism?

Finally, someone just wrote a great political thriller about a small town in America that stands up to this incompetent govt. & ends up starting the 2nd American Revolution.

It’s a magnificent read if u want to see what’s coming in 2010 & think about history calling on each of us to finally find our legacy in history.
http://www.booksbyoliver.

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By M Henri Day, December 31, 2009 at 2:20 pm Link to this comment

There’s no doubt but what the example of WW II spending pulling the US out of the Great Depression played, in addition to geostrategic considerations, a large role in Truman’s project to «scare the hell» out of the country shortly after that war, in the decision to start the Korean War, and in Lyndon Baines Johnson’s decision to greatly widen the US war in Indochina. But times have changed and the evidence seems to indicate that rather than invigourating the US economy, the US elite’s addiction to war profits is now breaking the Empire’s back. Devoting resources to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in addition to the various boondoggles so beloved of those who run the country have made it less rather than more competititive in the global arena, and it seems extremely unlikely that widening the war to Pakistan or Yemen is going to improve either the overall US economic situation or the enormous problem the country has with, e g, trade imbalances. I fear this pitcher will continue going to the well until it breaks….

Henri

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By felicity, December 31, 2009 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

Arouete - You’re on to something very important.  Well over half of the discretionary budget is spent on the research, development and production of military weaponry.  Should the government cease its massive funding of this part of our economy, a depression to top all depressions would certainly occur. 

It’s argued that massive government spending during WWII is what brought us out of the Depression.  Because of, (actually the excuse) the Cold War and intermittent ‘hot’ wars, the government has continued dumping huge sums of money into the economy.  (The laugh-a-minute is that Republicans yell bloody murder at government spending of all kinds except when it comes to the biggest government expense of all, the military/industrial complex.) Empty rhetoric.

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By mandinka, December 31, 2009 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment

Montogermy, where can I get 1 of those tin foil hats?? Looks like your mass producing them for your friends and family

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By plainsman, December 31, 2009 at 9:18 am Link to this comment

One last remark:

So many posters here refer to the global “war on terror”. But, if you’re going to call yourselves seekers—drillers—of truth, you should correct the typo. It is actually the global “war of terror”. It is lead by the United States, the world’s biggest and most successful terrorist. It is aided and abetted by Israel and Britain.

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By max, December 31, 2009 at 8:45 am Link to this comment
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Amen, drbhelthi, December 31 at 10:18 am.

“The NAZI movement did not end with WWII, rather relocated its Headquarters, and united with a historical “tribe” that owns a history similar to the NAZI movement.”

Absolutely, the Nazis lost WWII but Nazism won.

“Folk who subvert themselves into subordinancy, who “look up” to dishonest politicians, only maintain the dishonesty of politicians.”

What’s the difference between an enabling Good German (the Nazis didn’t commit the Reichstag fire, it was the nasty Communists; the Nazis are civilized, they wouldn’t kill Jews) and a card carrying Nazi?

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By BFlat, December 31, 2009 at 8:32 am Link to this comment
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I think all of you have drank too much conspiracy kool-aid.  It makes no sense that any agency has some grand plan for the future that they are trying to engineer because it never works.  Rather, I think the truth is much simpler than than—companies that make scanners need to sell them to stay afloat.  Congress passed a resolution banning those full body scanners.  What to do?  I know—let’s create an incident that relates to a security breach in which it is plausible that the scanners might have helped resolve, then we’ll light up the lobby lines to DC and overturn the silly ban, do a full court press on television to tell the proles that the privacy invasions “aren’t that big of a deal” with the ultimate goal of realizing billions in profit from no-bid contracts for machines that don’t really do much.  To me, that makes a lot more sense than any grand conspiracy.  There are too many factions vying for power that has become far more decentralized than anyone suspects or understands.  The world is not shaping up as some globalist central power, but rather quite the opposite.

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