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Posted on Jun 7, 2010
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By Chris Hedges

Tens of millions of Americans, lumped into a diffuse and fractious movement known as the Christian right, have begun to dismantle the intellectual and scientific rigor of the Enlightenment. They are creating a theocratic state based on “biblical law,” and shutting out all those they define as the enemy. This movement, veering closer and closer to traditional fascism, seeks to force a recalcitrant world to submit before an imperial America. It champions the eradication of social deviants, beginning with homosexuals, and moving on to immigrants, secular humanists, feminists, Jews, Muslims and those they dismiss as “nominal Christians”—meaning Christians who do not embrace their perverted and heretical interpretation of the Bible. Those who defy the mass movement are condemned as posing a threat to the health and hygiene of the country and the family. All will be purged.

The followers of deviant faiths, from Judaism to Islam, must be converted or repressed. The deviant media, the deviant public schools, the deviant entertainment industry, the deviant secular humanist government and judiciary and the deviant churches will be reformed or closed. There will be a relentless promotion of Christian “values,” already under way on Christian radio and television and in Christian schools, as information and facts are replaced with overt forms of indoctrination. The march toward this terrifying dystopia has begun. It is taking place on the streets of Arizona, on cable news channels, at tea party rallies, in the Texas public schools, among militia members and within a Republican Party that is being hijacked by this lunatic fringe.

Elizabeth Dilling, who wrote “The Red Network” and was a Nazi sympathizer, is touted as required reading by trash-talk television hosts like Glenn Beck. Thomas Jefferson, who favored separation of church and state, is ignored in Christian schools and soon will be ignored in Texas public school textbooks. The Christian right hails the “significant contributions” of the Confederacy. Sen. Joseph McCarthy, who led the anti-communist witch hunts of the 1950s, has been rehabilitated, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is defined as part of the worldwide battle against Islamic terror. Legislation like the new Jim Crow laws of Arizona is being considered by 17 other states.

The rise of this Christian fascism, a rise we ignore at our peril, is being fueled by an ineffectual and bankrupt liberal class that has proved to be unable to roll back surging unemployment, protect us from speculators on Wall Street, or save our dispossessed working class from foreclosures, bankruptcies and misery. The liberal class has proved useless in combating the largest environmental disaster in our history, ending costly and futile imperial wars or stopping the corporate plundering of the nation. And the gutlessness of the liberal class has left it, and the values it represents, reviled and hated.

The Democrats have refused to repeal the gross violations of international and domestic law codified by the Bush administration. This means that Christian fascists who achieve power will have the “legal” tools to spy on, arrest, deny habeas corpus to, and torture or assassinate American citizens—as does the Obama administration.

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Those who remain in a reality-based world often dismiss these malcontents as buffoons and simpletons. They do not take seriously those, like Beck, who pander to the primitive yearnings for vengeance, new glory and moral renewal. Critics of the movement continue to employ the tools of reason, research and fact to challenge the absurdities propagated by creationists who think they will float naked into the heavens when Jesus returns to Earth. The magical thinking, the flagrant distortion in interpreting the Bible, the contradictions that abound within the movement’s belief system and the laughable pseudoscience, however, are impervious to reason. We cannot convince those in the movement to wake up. It is we who are asleep. 

Those who embrace this movement see life as an epic battle against forces of evil and Satanism. The world is black and white. They need to feel, even if they are not, that they are victims surrounded by dark and sinister groups bent on their destruction. They need to believe they know the will of God and can fulfill it, especially through violence. They need to sanctify their rage, a rage that lies at the core of the ideology. They seek total cultural and political domination. They are using the space within the open society to destroy it. These movements work within the confining rules of the secular state because they have no choice. The intolerance they promote is muted in the public assurances of their slickest operators. Given enough power, and they are working hard to get it, any such cooperation will vanish. The demand for total control and for a Christian nation and the refusal to permit any dissent are on display within their inner sanctums. These pastors have established within their churches tiny, despotic fiefdoms, and they seek to replicate these little tyrannies on a larger scale.


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By Night-Gaunt, June 8, 2010 at 8:41 am Link to this comment

The spark that could set this conflagration ablaze could be lying in the hands of a small Islamic terrorist cell. It could be in the hands of greedy Wall Street speculators who gamble with taxpayer money in the elaborate global system of casino capitalism. The next catastrophic attack, or the next economic meltdown, could be our Reichstag fire. It could be the excuse used by these totalitarian forces, this Christian fascism, to extinguish what remains of our open society.

Anything can trigger their final act of a long slow deliberate dismantling and weakening of our Republic by anti-democratic forces in the top 10% of owners of Capital and their many poor minions who follow their false dream as they promote it. More than likely some kind of “terrorist” attack several major ones at once or perhaps the assassination of the president and much of the Congress would do it, blamed upon Islamic terrorists (“The Handmaid’s Tale”) or economic collapse like say war with Iran would also give them their final play to take over without restraint. [What they couldn’t do in 1934 they would make real in the 21st century.] The danger is now and we are naked before it.

They want their Holy American Empire so that it can operate cleanly without the vicissitudes of democracy and such things anathema to Christianity as theocracy. Don’t forget that the corporate element will be supreme as well in their modern barbaric state they wish to have. The Germans, Russians and Chinese had such in the early decades of the last century. Though the Chinese are moving to a corporate capitalist dictatorship and the Chinese people are up-in-arms about it.

Ironically it almost happened here in 1934. It was only one man that broke the conspiracy that almost turned us int a corporate fascist state and part of the Axis was Major General Smedley “Gimlet Eye” Butler who had been approached by members of “The Fraternity” in 1933 to lead and army of veterans armed by companies like ITT to take over the gov’t. “The Fraternity” was made up of families like the Bush‘s and corporations like Ford, IBM, ITT etc. who didn’t like where the USA was going. Well when FDR found out about it he hushed it up and had several discussions with the leaders and kept it out of the press and did nothing to them. I damn him for giving us this massive threat he could have nipped in the bud. So they learned their lesson and kept behind the scenes and learned they must own the casino before they can win. So they have been busy not only creating a whole parallel system of schools and think tanks but our gov’t is so riddled with corporations “helping” it operate that now it can’t function without it!

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By Doc, June 8, 2010 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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Yell, I have heard some of these folks mouth off, “Lets get the libs, gays, and commies and put em in the cotton patch” mentality. I seriously doubt their ability to coordinate a movement nation wide-(these folks have a hard time putting together a covered dish supper).The Christians as a group are an extremely fragmented collection of sects with fundamental differences in doctrine and practice. There is no Christian “Big Brother”. If Moses had problems with the Children of Israel, with God as counsel, I seriously doubt any man has the talent or ability to direct and motivate such a diverse group to such extreme action. One thing the author of this article did not consider, a push back due to 30 years of PC and SH fascism in classrooms first, then expanding to the courts and government.Such as hate crime prosecution for expressions of dogma that do dot align with liberal orthodoxy, like homosexuality, abortion and progressive-ism. I really doubt a NYC liberal is qualified to give an unbiased report about anything to do with the community of faith.

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By balkas, June 8, 2010 at 8:18 am Link to this comment

Interestingly, tho the world plutos are strongly united with clergy [?all; well, i don’t know]in their fight against making of a caring-sharing-peaceful society, while their respected teloses [ends] appear antipodal or much different.

Ellis had promted me to write this post after he said that atheists are supporting ‘religions’.

I evaluate as factual that world plutos want to obtain a permament world underclass; totally dependent on the overclass [ ?01-10% of world pop ], while a clergy wants to obtain total control of and obedience to its dogmas, of 100% of world pop.

Clergy, any, is going to lose. It wld better for clergy to work for a caring-sharing, etc., society.
If clergy doesn’t do that, it wld always remain a subclass of people and subservient to plutocrats who worship, i educe, only prestige-power-money! tnx

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By Martin, June 8, 2010 at 7:54 am Link to this comment
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There certainly is a lot of “We are absolutely right and they are absolutely wrong” in your denunciation of people who say “We are absolutly right and they are absolutly wrong”

There sure is a lot of paranoid hyperbole in your description of Christians’ paranoid hyperbole.

There is a lot of ignorance in your denunciation of ignorance.

Of course, paranoid Hyperbole is how this writer is making his living, hyping up fears.

Considering this writer has a degree from Harvard divinity school.. it tells me all I need to know about that school.
Jesus said:
“Love your enemies and bless those who persecute you, then your will be like your Father in Heaven”

There is no question that Christian people have went off the rails.. but that is not the question. People of every philosophy have went off the rails.. look at Stalin and Mao (Atheists) They are the two biggest murderers in history. But I don’t blame you for what they did.

Man is incapable of adhereing to any ideal philosophy.. and this is the fundamental and inescapable true assumption of Christianity..

“All have sinned and fallen short of the glory God “

“If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”.. Jesus

“Ask and IT shall be given, seek, and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened”

What is IT?

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By mike curiel, June 8, 2010 at 7:48 am Link to this comment
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chris,
i’ve read your interviews and your articles over the
last couple of years, and i do firmly believe that
you are a very valuable voice that can be added to a
potential new movement to counter the radical changes
of these last five years. but less fire and brimstone
will do your campaign so much better. you guys at
truthdig are obviously onboard with much of Chomsky’s
work, as i am too. and i think most everyone could
take a tip from his straightforward ways of
unraveling falsehoods great and small, without
uttering very many insults. (if any at all).

i’m with you one hundred percent as i think many
other americans are and would be if they knew how
many others felt just the same. but this presentation
is one that i believe could be easily dismantled in
the eyes of all those american idols out there. keep
up the amazing work.

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By decesq, June 8, 2010 at 7:47 am Link to this comment
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What a crock of shit!!

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By magneticmary, June 8, 2010 at 7:39 am Link to this comment
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“Old Man Turtle” has come the closest to describing the “strangeness” so many of my fellow Americans seem to be inflicted by.

“Old Man Turtle”:
“... modern mankind exhibits all the signs of terminal deterioration that can be observed in those who’ve been subjected to long-term, unrelenting solitary confinement.  Having become not just isolated-from but irrationally terrified-of the “outside” natural world, these prisoners (of their own device?) have effectively cut themselves off from the ecology that engendered and sustained them.  They have crawled out on the spindly limb of human “exceptionalism,” and then sawed it off behind themselves.  They are no longer connected to what some call The Tree of Life, and so are even now plummeting rootless toward the oblivion of extinction, clinging to whatever shreds of hope they may’ve picked-up from the dying leaves of various texts both sacred and profane.” 

So, does the modern world need to end for people to get reconnected? Is that the only thing that will turn everything around? Should we start a revolution? What?

Chis’ point about liberals ( yes as in most of his articles) is that those of us who know all of this is going on ( read the recent Truth Dig Noam Chomsky article that spells it all out) aren’t effectively doing anything about ANY OF IT.

What do we do!!?

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By Inherit The Wind, June 8, 2010 at 7:18 am Link to this comment

OM:

If you can identify factual errors in my history of the Catholic Church I will be nothing but grateful.

I didn’t even mention the decades of cover-ups of priests raping the young boys placed in their charge that THIS pope apparently took part in sanctioning.

But what I see in the current movement CH is addressing is historically reminiscent of what the Catholic Church did in its past, and what radical Islamic movements and radical Torah Orthodox movements are doing today.

There is NO room for individualism, there is only total, instant, unquestioning obedience.

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 8, 2010 at 6:55 am Link to this comment

This thread is an excellent example of how quickly the inmates can gain control of the nut house.  There’s an awful lot of mouth foam spewing around here and plenty of popping forehead veins.  Imagine what an army of Christian fundies could accomplish with the Lord God Almighty on their side!  Mayonnaise and balogna sandwiches are the wages of righteousness.  If we allow our country to be sucked into the cultural vacuum of these spiritual vulgarians, fully compartmentalized Swanson frozen dinners will be our reward.  AND THE CORN MUST NOT TOUCH THE MASHED POTATOES!!!

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By JDmysticDJ, June 8, 2010 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

The critical reader will note that this article by Hedges is laden with exaggeration.

“They are creating a theocratic state based on “biblical law,” and shutting out all those they define as the enemy.” “It [The Christian right] champions the eradication of social deviants, beginning with homosexuals, and moving on to immigrants, secular humanists, feminists, Jews, Muslims and those they dismiss as nominal Christians”“All will be purged.” These quotations are from the first paragraph of the article, and similar exaggerations continue throughout the article.

The “Tens of millions” Hedges frightens us with do not make up more than 40% of the electorate. ABC News released a poll which concluded that 83% of Americans define themselves as being Christian, with the largest denomination being people who define themselves as being non-denominational. Less than 40% attend church regularly. Less than 40% believe the bible is the absolute indisputable word of God, and many support liberal social issues and government action to promote social justice.  It’s clear that the extreme religious right is very influential within the Republican Party, but that is nothing new. It’s been a fact of political life since Ronald Reagan’s handlers fashioned his political strategy in 1980, or even earlier, when pro-war democrats and southern democrats, were co-opted by Nixon and his Southern Strategy.

The complete and total failure of right wing policies, led to the election of a Centrist Corporate Democrat, who happened to be of African American Heritage. This was unacceptable to many, and the religious right reacted with neurotic fervor. An amazingly large percentage of Republican voters actually believe Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, or enjoy answering survey questions by saying they believe he is the anti-Christ.

Hedges is not able to write an article without criticizing the “liberal class.”

The rise of this Christian fascism, a rise we ignore at our peril, is being fueled by an ineffectual and bankrupt liberal class that has proved to be unable to roll back surging unemployment, protect us from speculators on Wall Street, or save our dispossessed working class from foreclosures, bankruptcies and misery. The liberal class has proved useless in combating the largest environmental disaster in our history, ending costly and futile imperial wars or stopping the corporate plundering of the nation. And the gutlessness of the liberal class has left it, and the values it represents, reviled and hated.

Wikipedia describes American Liberalism as,

The main focus of modern liberalism in the United States is voting rights for all adult citizens, equal rights, separation of church and state, protection of the environment, and the provision by the government of social services, such as education, health care, highways, canals, food for the hungry and shelter for the homeless.

If Liberals are “Reviled and hated” for these values I’ll suggest that they are not to be blamed for that revile and hatred. I’ll suggest that those who obstruct, and block those values from being adopted are to be reviled and hated.

The religious right is, I believe, irrational and delusional to the point of neurosis, but they are simply the dupes of more sinister forces. Capitalist Oligarchs fear the people, and consider the people to be the enemy of their interests, i.e. their version of what America should be. They are strong believers in Authoritarianism, and see their positions of power and influence as being the natural order. They fear egalitarian democracy, and they perpetuate social injustice. They are militaristic in the extreme, and don’t hesitate to use military power when they perceive military power will advance their interests. In short, I believe we are already ruled by Corporate Fascism.

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By JDmysticDJ, June 8, 2010 at 6:32 am Link to this comment

(Cont. P.2)

According to Hedges nightmare scenario the Christian right will be the foot soldiers that impose Totalitarian Fascism. A new phrasing of the famous quotation would be, “First they came for the homosexuals, but I did not object because I was not a homosexual.. on to immigrants, secular humanists, feminists, Jews, Muslims and nominal Christians” etc. strikes me as being absurd. The likelihood of such activities actually occurring is beyond belief. The American people may be slow learners - from history - but not that slow. Hopefully, Hedges is only using hyperbole when he says, “It [The Christian Right] champions the eradication of social deviants, beginning with homosexuals, and moving on to immigrants, etc.”  If he’s suggesting that the Christian right has a propensity to be bigoted regarding these groups, and will seek to restrict their freedoms, I’ll suggest that that is already occurring, and that there is a danger that given extreme circumstances, the Christian right would endeavor to, and would have varying degrees of success in further suppressing the rights of certain of these groups.

The mantra of many here on truthdig is that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans, “Both parties are the same,” they say. Clearly both parties are not the same. Obama forcefully criticized Israel for expanding the settlements, and criticized the logic and justice of the blockade of Gaza today. He has openly called the Wall Street Bankers “Fat Cats” and told them face to face that they will have to change their methods of doing business. No traditional Republican would dare to make such statements.

I’ll argue that Obama can not logically be defined as “Liberal,” in the traditional sense, he is surrounded by neo-liberals and he does not see Capitalism as being the evil that many liberals do. He’s not the anti-Christ, he’s a Corporate Centrist. There are a sizable number of Democrats in Congress that are to the left of Obama, and an even greater of number of people to the left of Obama in the general population, including: activists, academics, members of the left media, and the intelligentsia.

Others here on truthdig have openly stated their nihilistic beliefs. “Our fate is sealed, we are doomed, there is no way other than a total collapse open to us,” they say. Unfortunately, I believe that those who have this nihilistic attitude may be prescient in their prognostications.

Hedges concludes his article by urging us to action. I’ll suggest that forestalling the clearly obvious shift to the right is of the utmost importance, and that supporting the center left, with the goal of progress (Change) is the only rational way of dealing with our current situation, and that doing so is our only hope of freeing our selves from the current morass. I believe that “Radical elitists” may be a greater danger to our declared goals than “Ineffectual liberal elitists,” because radical elitists only serve to make liberals more ineffectual.

Noam Chomsky said in a speech at the Left Forum (Found at democracynow.org, May, 31)

“Well, the world is too complex for history to repeat, but there are nevertheless lessons to keep in mind, and even memories. I’m just old enough to remember those chilling and ominous days of Germany’s descent from decency to Nazi barbarism, quoting the distinguished scholar of German history Fritz Stern, who tells us that he has the future of the United States in mind when he reviews what he calls “a historic process in which resentment against a disenchanted secular world found deliverance in the ecstatic escape of unreason.” If that sounds familiar, it is. This is one possible outcome of ‘collapse of the center’ when the radical imagination, which in fact was quite powerful at that time, nonetheless fell short”

If radical elitists “Fall short” and contribute to the “Collapse of the center” the consequences could be devastating.

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By balkas, June 8, 2010 at 6:26 am Link to this comment

I am with those who say ‘religions’ [read, please, socalled] are a bane.

The first rule on our; oops, THEIR planet, was a priestly rule. It commited the gravest crime ever perped or cld be perped: dividing or separating people, broadly, into more-valued and less-valued.

That is, to me, the root cause of all evil on interpersonal and int’l levels.

To excise this cancer, we need to educate people ab this fact [i evaluate it as such] and form an antipodal party that wld work for utter destruction of clerico-plutocratic evil soyuz.

However, solely by education-enlightenment! tnx

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By OzarkMichael, June 8, 2010 at 5:59 am Link to this comment

A man organizing a pogrom reassures the novices to it that he is not a bigot: My own little town had not one but two Jewish synagogues with their own parochial schools.

A man expressing prejudice against African Americans always includes: [i/]And I grew up knowing many, many blacks... counting many as friends.

A man trying to show he is not a bigot always reassures that he also hates other people: But don’t worry.  I see exactly the same corruption of spirit in Jews. I’m an equal opportunity hater

A man wishing to stir up hatred is always armed with “facts” and “history”.  But the man has to suppress a great deal to come to those conclusions.

Again, is your history better than the stuff going on in Texas? Ugh, and you are supposed to be the intellectual.

The way you justify it with a spirit of moderation and assume the moral high ground makes it more powerful and more disgusting, not less.

The imputed evils of the Christian Right by yourself is actually worse than what Hedges does. It is more than enough to justify a ‘pogrom’ someday. But dont worry, it it ever comes to that i am sure that your hands will be clean.

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By Bolton, June 8, 2010 at 5:27 am Link to this comment

All religion must end for humanity to survive. Because then people will think independently, and will not be so easily controlled. Religion and other forms of fear based control cause people to accept totalitarism in the name of security, and turn people into sheep, or worse, justified murders. Our founding fathers knew religion tried to simplify life into good and evil or black and white, when reality has a lot of gray area in a complex society, therefore it needed to be separated from the state. Religions created good and evil as a means of control, nothing more and nothing less. Wake up people, manipulation is only a trick used as a means of control, and is a tool for power over others. Humanity must save itself, because in reality nothing else will.

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By bogi666, June 8, 2010 at 4:25 am Link to this comment
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Martha A, you really hit at the fallacy of what the pretend christianity, shame and unhealthy shame. By using the boogeyman Christ as the crutch for their forgiveness it absolves the ‘sinner’ of being responsible for their sins. It also serves to relieve them of applicable healthy shame of the ‘sinner’ . This is the appeal of the pretend christians false doctrine of “I’m not responsible, god and/or Satan me to do it but i’m not responsible”. Add in that “god has forgiven me so who are you mere mortals to not forgive me if god has forgiven me”. This is the false doctrine, which is insitutionalized and thereby legitiimizes, not being held accountable, not having to be ashamed by deflecting the responsbility and shame to the boogeyman Christ/Satan. These pretend christians then create unhealthy shame to replace healthy shame.

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By Inherit The Wind, June 8, 2010 at 3:53 am Link to this comment

OM:

I guess growing up in the Ozarks you didn’t see many Catholics.  After all, in most of the South they were denounced as “Papists”.

But up North they are common.  My own little town had not one but two Catholic churches with their own parochial schools.  And I grew up knowing many, many Catholics, from nuns to Atheists, counting many as friends.

But I also know the history of the Catholic Church, which began with its war on the other 4 major churches in the 4th or 5th century and the total brutal and ruthless eradication of the Arian Church (the most open-minded and liberal of the 5). The priesthood discouraged education and learning among the masses so that only they, the priests, could read The Bible.  This gave them a stranglehold over the population’s souls and they used it to acquire vast wealth and build great cathedrals, even in the midst of starvation and plague.

Throughout the Dark Ages the Church taught people that it was their lot to suffer, that to experience joy in anything other than Jesus would condemn their souls to Hell.  Joy would only come with death—“Pie In The Sky” as Joe Hill the songwriter called it.

The Church battled with kings over who actually had control.  Thomas a Becket was in the middle of that battle as Henry II insisted that he had the right to appoint bishops in his kingdom.  Since bishops controlled vast wealth and could turn barons for or against the king, and the Pope was foreign AND Henry could claim Divine Providence had appointed him, he had a point.

The Church used its power over 400 years to send vast numbers of people to the Holy Land to die in the Crusades, and during the plague did nothing other than blame Jews for it.

The conquest of the New World by Spain, with its brutal and cruel subjugation of the peoples of the Americas was totally sanctioned by the Church as they were all “savage pagans” (Not long before Cortez, the Reverend Speaker of the Aztecs, had 22,000 victims sacrificed to sanctify the new temple).  The Church actively demanded that Spain destroy all pagan trappings.  Vast libraries of Aztec scrolls were burned and lost as “pagan” and “satanic”.

The Inquisition and The Burning of the Vanities.  Need I say more?

Throughout this time the Church amassed unimaginable wealth, even as it worked in countries where people were starving.  Could not the Church in Rome have given Mother Theresa far more resources to do her good works?  NOW that she’s dead they are moving her memory toward sainthood. Whoopie.

But don’t worry OM.  I see exactly the same corruption of spirit in the radical Christian movement Hedges addresses, and in the radical Islamic movements, and in the radical Torah Orthodox Jewish groups now ruling Israel.  And don’t get me started on Scientology!

I’m an equal opportunity hater of organized religions.  They are ultimately all corrupt vampires of people’s fears and souls.

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By Ruler4You, June 8, 2010 at 3:18 am Link to this comment
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The intellectual dishonesty of this article is staggering. And the majority of mindless posts demonstrate near criminal neglect of fact. A shameful disregard for truth. “Truth” is not relative nor subjective.

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By David Sketchley, June 8, 2010 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

A question for Chris:

You say “Let us openly defy the liberal establishment, which will not save us, to demand and fight for economic reparations for our working class. Let us reincorporate these dispossessed into our economy. Let us give them a reality-based hope for the future. Time is running out. If we do not act, American fascists, clutching Christian crosses, waving American flags and orchestrating mass recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance, will use this rage to snuff us out. “

That’s great but you don’t say how…

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By kerryrose, June 8, 2010 at 1:18 am Link to this comment

http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/washington-dcs-the-family/

Read this!

(sorry, you’ll have to copy-paste)

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By Money is funny, June 8, 2010 at 12:10 am Link to this comment

I love when they say “we are for family”. That is really helpful because we all know that the boogie man is out there and he is wanting to dismantle families.

It is so cute when they try to stop teen pregnancy.

Everything that they promote is a distraction from the real problems that we face and they are never effective in their causes.

All they will ever do is imprison more of us for a variety of reasons because that is how they fight their “demons”.

They will collectively orchestrate nonsense to give themselves an upper hand against what is bad according to myth.

They really do inflict really stupid damage against us, and it really is a big deal I’d say.

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 11:56 pm Link to this comment

What is going to be coming with this Christian fascism
Cris????
We are so much of a smarter and enlightened public now
that we have the internet Cris, none of those things
could possibly happen.  We internet is our saviour.
Are you trying to tell us that we might get a president
that lies when these Christian fascistd takeover??/
And that he will drop phosphorus bombs on innocent victims
all over the world? Use chemical weapons, drones,
clouster bombs and all that kind of stuff to steal other
nations belongings? Those durn fascists, thanks so much
for the warning Cris. We will stay alert, on the lookout
to make sure that doesn’t happen in our fine democracy.
They will probably want to rob social security too to fund
a bunch of this fascist stuff,  we won’t let them Cris,
because we have you.

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 11:41 pm Link to this comment

Cris Hedges, next you have me scared that these fascists
when they come , will replace the constitution with a
document called the Patriot Act,  ,, No Cris,
Please say that isn’t coming here to this fine democracy.
So glad you warned us, I will make sure to go to the
ballot box and vote a fine Democrat or Republican so this
doesn’t happen here !!!!!!!

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 11:32 pm Link to this comment

Lets see Hedges, what are you getting me scared of
thats coming,
Maybe a government that spends over a trillion a year on
the military, and supplementals to support their wars.
That alamrs me !!!
And a government that will be run from Wall Street, oh no
A increasing shrinking “middle class” you say is coming
and all manufacturing will be done overseas?
That these fascists will not give a damn about the ecology
or healthy food and will also take our money to buy
petro chemicals to grow this food on industrialized farms
oh shit. what is coming,
A gutted EPA, OSHA, FOOD AND DRUG administrations? oh balls , the fascists are coming
What else will they bring with them Cris, institutionalized racism and imprisonment? Oh shit the
fascists are coming.
Next you will be telling us that they will take all sorts
of public money , trillions, and give it as gifts to their
friends on Wall Street,  NO, Cris,  I don’t see this
fascism infesting our government anytime soon.
Oh no, not that tooo!!!  You really mean that they are
going to stop public education? No Cris, don’t tell me
that. The fascists are coming???  Oh lord. Now, wait a
minute, you arn’t inferring that our elections are a fraud
and if the fascists don’t get the result they want they
will just take it their stacked courts, are you, Noooonono
not here Cris Hedges, you really mean fascist just might
be coming?? Next you will be telling me that they won’t
care about the health , environment, safety, ane welfare
of the citizens of the US. They are coming, are they?
Thanks for warning us Cris Hedges. Wait another minute,
the media tooo??? They are going to take over the media
tooo,  those durn fascist are coming, thanks for the
warning Cris Hedges !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By shemp333, June 7, 2010 at 11:26 pm Link to this comment

Chris Hedges jumps from one side of the fence to the other when comparing this and his past articles,  which are all on the same subject.  He’s on one side with one article and immediately on the other side on the next!  I loved this article, but despised his last.  I feel he is playing both sides and just firing up everyone.  I find his work passionate on both sides… but… What do YOU really think Chris???

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

I concede, Truth Dig, the journalists, the posters and
American policy have beat me to a pulp, I render
defeat.

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By Yo'Mamma, June 7, 2010 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
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@Arabian Sinbad

I, too, am deeply afraid of the big, western religions of the world taking a turn towards a regressive fundamentalism.

I’d guess that their tendencies towards authoritarian psychology and the belief in some divine justice of the market are likely drivers to produce radicalized versions of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam that could hold hands with corporate America- radical Christianity being, for me, the most likely candidate. It might also true of other religions around the world, but due to the reduced presence (or non-presence) of rigidly-defined doctrinal interpretation in faiths such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc. it seems the likelihood of the major non-western religions to become fascist dictatorships or corporate theocracies is less probable.

As far as I can tell, Christian Zionists share in all of the prominent community practices of Christian Reconstructionism, from their rapture readiness and belief in the the materialization of the “Two Beasts” (i.e., the Antichrist and the False Prophet) in Israel to their Dominionist view of their own destiny to forge the kingdom of God on earth (via some warped theory using the spiritual predestination of the Calvinists).

To get to the question you asked originally, it seems likely that the social tendencies and the theological subscriptions of the Christian Zionists contain all the core seeds of fascism - production of scapegoats, tendency towards gender-bias, inclination for societal reorganization on adherence to doctrine) to push their proto-fascist forays into a full-blooded fascist government if they ever ascended to the pinnacle of political power.

If another Christian group reached that seat before them, or they reached that seat as a more-or-less-powerful member within a patchwork coalition of Christian sects (together with supportive satellite groups), Christian Zionists would without question or hesitation support the biblical restructuring of America’s “secular” society.

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By Maani, June 7, 2010 at 9:57 pm Link to this comment

Politically:

There may well be a rise in the Christian Right, as evidenced by many things we have been seeing over the past few years.  But, please - to the degree Hedges suggests?  I think not.

Haven’t all of us learned anything yet?  The “powers that be” will do anything and everything to “divide and conquer” us, to fractionalize us, to keep us fighting amongst ourselves - including creating “others” for us to fear and rail against - in order to keep us from uniting to fight the TRUE enemy: the corporate oligarchy that pulls the strings, makes the money, controls the government, etc.  Unless I miss my guess, this is what tropicgirl was referring to as the “real conspiracy.”  And what we are seeing is yet another example of how successful their strategy continues to be…

Spiritually:

The eleven main precepts of Jesus’ ministry were love, peace, forgiveness, compassion, humility, patience, charity, selflessness, service, justice and truth.  Based on this, most self-proclaimed “Christians” wouldn’t know Jesus if He bit them on the ear…

Peace.

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By OzarkMichael, June 7, 2010 at 9:37 pm Link to this comment

ITW, your post positioned itself as above the stupidity of Hedges. From that moral high ground you said a few typical things that we could, as usual, argue about. But then you said things like this:

But Catholicism’s history is EXACTLY what Hedges has described for the Christian Right.  As a friend of mine used to say: Without the Catholic Church we would have landed on the Moon 1000 years earlier!

What you are saying has no basis in history and comes from deep prejudice. I am not Catholic but I dont like bigotry.

People in Texas arent the only ones rewriting history. Dont be so sure they are making a worse hash of it than you are.

Then you say: What Hedges fails to warn us of is this anti-intellectual movement, if it succeeds will doom the USA to fall into the third world, etc.

I expect to be insulted by the prejudice of Hedges and his camp followers. They might pull out of it because they have this confused emotion which can be turned.

You, on the other hand, cool and calm above the fray, you blithely explain the course of history and current events in such a way that you wallow deeper in the slop than Hedges does. You want to blame Christians not only for reverses that the West/USA experienced in the past but for reverses that we will experience in the future.  Do not tell me that you were only referring to the very few fascists, etc. Thats Hedges’ schtick already if you didnt realize it. The blame by implication is spread much wider. Read your post. Think of the implications of what you are said.

The effect of your post is to disseminate prejuduce among people who are already in the mood to shoot. You give them MORE reason to do so. All while being moderate, intelligent, and above the fray. Uggh. This is so disheartening.

While others cheer, i can only turn away.  Two and a half years on Truthdig and the end is much worse than the beginning. My sadness is deeper than their joy.

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By David from Frederick MD, June 7, 2010 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment
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Good by Truthdig.com, you seem to be demonizing Christians when the real enemy is the Illuminati, CFR, Bilderberg group and United Nation’s (depopulation agenda), while making the entire world a Totalitarian One World Government. Truthdig should read “the protocols of the learned elders of zion”, NOT a Hoax, it was determined in court that it was a Forgery (big difference).
The elite want to have their holocaust way!

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By Inherit The Wind, June 7, 2010 at 8:30 pm Link to this comment

Arabian Sinbad, June 7 at 11:00 pm #

What Chris Hedges is talking about here is, en essence, a warning against a rising evil trend within Christianity. And though I might not be so alarmed or disturbed as he is, I do recognize that “a little evil is still too much” as an Arabic proverb puts it. And as another Arabic proverb puts it, “there is madness; and madness,” I do also recognize that Christian Fascists, Jewish Zionists, Islamic Jihadists, and global terrorists represent different types of dangerous madness.

One thing which is not clear in Hedges’ piece is whether he means by Christian Fascists those known otherwise as Christian-Zionists or he is talking about another larger group!

I happened to be a panelist two years ago at an international interfaith dialogue where I met a distinguished scholar from Britain whose name is Stephen Sizer. He authored a book titled, “Christian Zionism: Road-Map to Armageddon.” Though I had previously had some vague idea about the existent of a group of Christian fanatics who are called “Christian Zionists,” it was after I read this book that I became noticeably alarmed.

The danger of this group is that they focus their crooked theology on my original homeland, Palestine, where they believe that the so-called “Rapture,” “Second Coming of Christ,” and the “battle of Armageddon” will all take place. Hence they are adding fuel to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and using the extreme Zionists to hasten these crazy prophesies of theirs.
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A.S.—I usually detest everything you post and I figure you probably feel the same about my posts. but this is one time we are on the same side of the fence.  In fact, my ONLY criticism is: What took you so long to figure this out?

The only piece you miss in your excellent and cogent analysis of the fanatically religious is this has ALWAYS been their motivation for supporting Israel, but particularly the radical extremists who hunger for a “Greater Judea” while the Crazy-Christians hunger for The Rapture.  For now, they work together, but ultimately, they are enemies.  Sometimes it’s deeply buried, sometimes it’s right on the surface (Paging Pat Robertson!).

I have met many fine, devout believers in all 3 of the Abrahamic religions, but the intolerant, bigoted crazies in all three are a curse on all of us.

I hope you and I can find other common ground.

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By white noise, June 7, 2010 at 8:09 pm Link to this comment

“Remember there’s a big difference between kneeling
down and bending over.” -Frank Zappa

...& for you out of towners wink

“The three monotheisms, animated by the same
genealogical death instinct, share a series of
identical contempt: hatred of reason and
intelligence; hatred of freedom; hatred of all books
in the name the one & only; hatred of life; hatred
of sexuality, of women and pleasure; hatred of
feminity; hatred of the body, of desires & impulses.
Instead of all that, Judaism, Christianity and Islam
defend: faith and belief, obedience and submission,
a taste for death and a passion for the beyond,
asexual angel and chastity, virginity and monogamic
fidelity, the wife and the mother, the soul and
spirit. In other words, life crucified and
celebrated nothingness” – Michel Onfray

...& you suckers are paying for it too wink

BLACKWATER : THE CRUSADE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DpRz4CvMqo

“You’ll get my tolerance, but not my intellectual
respect for if you could you would burn me at the
stake” - Bill Maher

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By Sage, June 7, 2010 at 8:03 pm Link to this comment
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I’m not reading anyone talk about a threat much more serious than the tea-baggers.  The Robert Morris Society is well financed, had a defined strategy, is organized, and now has a membership of 23 of 37 Repub Governors, among many financiers.  They are going one state at a time to overthrough the government, if those in leadership do not align with these folks.  Their ultimate goal is to stack Congress, as well as the Presidency of 2012.  They are a faction of the Republican Governors’ Association, which wants to upseat the Republican National Committee, because the RGA is most unhappy with the RNC, and has their own agenda and set of goals.  Haley Barbour is head of the RGA—you know, they Gov of Mississippi that states that the liberal media is exaggerating the oil spill?

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By Money is funny, June 7, 2010 at 7:59 pm Link to this comment

Narcissism in others and anxiety in myself are my worst enemies.

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By mike112769, June 7, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

These “christian” groups aren’t that big of a threat. No more than any other religious-based bigotry.

I like the way you can almost guarantee a republican, right-wing, “christian”, public figure will be “outted” within the next three weeks of reading this post.

Christians aren’t the enemy; apathy is.

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By OzarkMichael, June 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

John Ellis says: And as truth is most anti-Semitic, whose fault is it?

Since you wrote the above, claiming it to be TRUTH and LIGHT, it is your own fault in every way.

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By Arabian Sinbad, June 7, 2010 at 7:00 pm Link to this comment

What Chris Hedges is talking about here is, en essence, a warning against a rising evil trend within Christianity. And though I might not be so alarmed or disturbed as he is, I do recognize that “a little evil is still too much” as an Arabic proverb puts it. And as another Arabic proverb puts it, “there is madness; and madness,” I do also recognize that Christian Fascists, Jewish Zionists, Islamic Jihadists, and global terrorists represent different types of dangerous madness.

One thing which is not clear in Hedges’ piece is whether he means by Christian Fascists those known otherwise as Christian-Zionists or he is talking about another larger group!

I happened to be a panelist two years ago at an international interfaith dialogue where I met a distinguished scholar from Britain whose name is Stephen Sizer. He authored a book titled, “Christian Zionism: Road-Map to Armageddon.” Though I had previously had some vague idea about the existent of a group of Christian fanatics who are called “Christian Zionists,” it was after I read this book that I became noticeably alarmed.

The danger of this group is that they focus their crooked theology on my original homeland, Palestine, where they believe that the so-called “Rapture,” “Second Coming of Christ,” and the “battle of Armageddon” will all take place. Hence they are adding fuel to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and using the extreme Zionists to hasten these crazy prophesies of theirs.

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By kerryrose, June 7, 2010 at 6:27 pm Link to this comment

From what I understand, the ruling Christian right in this country, the one to fear, is not the hordes of lower class evangelists.  It is the mysterious Family in D.C. and Prince and his Blackwater (Xe).  These are the religious right with money and power and an agenda.

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By cmarcusparr, June 7, 2010 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment

To Dimon, an admission to your challenge, it should have been in quotes, “the light of the world,” to emphasize the sarcasm or irony (as is the case in written form).

That said, I would argue that the American Revolution helped to ignite 1789 in France and across Europe, a frenzy of anarchy against long-standing tyranny. It was, admittedly, a brief and shining moment.

Do you have a problem with that analysis, Dimon?

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By Peter Knopfler, June 7, 2010 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment

For Myself THIS is a No brainer, Blind faith religions who believe in a LIFE HEREAFTER, like the Christian and Paradise virgins and all. Heaven with Jesus is equaly as dangerous as Islamic paradise, fighting for G_D: Now expand this picture and these TWO strive faithfully for the life hereafter, which negates the present. Taking the Past and jaming it into the future and destroying the present as in IRAN. The old abuse the young and rob a generation of young people. military service or abuse, either the young pay for the sins of the parents. Christians like Muslims die for the fantasy hereafter, that is why they are dangerous. Abuse the present, “I wish I could live like the time of Mohammed at least I can dress and pretend”. Moving towards Rapture “the sooner all trees fall Jesus will come get his own, kill them all let G_D sort them out” Iranian presedent believes the lost Immam, will come with Jesus and Moses, BUT not until Islam dominates the World, Marching to the life hereafter, very Dangerous people these blind faith freaks!

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By gerard, June 7, 2010 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment

Chris, unfortunately people don’t act wisely when they are inspired by fear and loathing.

There is enough fear and loathing evident in these comments to arouse a lot more wasted energy.

Many of the people you are addressing at TD and elsewhere are already too full of fear, guilt and rage to think of anything else.

What are the chances that such tongue-lashings will lead to anything beyond more of the same?

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By Money is funny, June 7, 2010 at 5:49 pm Link to this comment

I wish the dungeons and dragons people would pull rank on these zombies.

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By OzarkMichael, June 7, 2010 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

ThomasG vs John Ellis

One of them has to have the numbers wrong. is it 70-20 10? or is John right and it is 49-40-10-1?

MarthaA vs John Ellis

Dont worry John, MarthaA doesnt believe a word she is saying. She is a sock puppet for ThomasG. They are two sides of the same coin, or to put it bluntly, they are the same person. The “Christian stuff” from MarthaA is just a different sales approach for pitching their 70% 20% 10% scheme to spiritual people.

So argue with one or argue with the other, but you will look silly arguing with both.

/flex

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By OzarkMichael, June 7, 2010 at 5:05 pm Link to this comment

I love this Truthdigger comment by mike: Good article. But it fails to mention the most dangerous and nazi-like element of this right-wing movement, which are the anti-semites. Altho they call themselves “leftists”, “progressives” and “pacifists” they are nothing of the kind. They are extremely violent, right-wing extremists who want to kill all those who are different from them.

As a conservative American Christian, I have gotten used to being called “Right-winger”. I have also gotten used to (but strenuously resist) being called a fascist. But according to the above I am not only a fascist, I am also somehow responsible for the violence and hatred that exists on Left.

All I can say is:

/flex

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Hedges,
We already are in a fascist state.
What you are really doing, is trying to gather votes
for the Democrat Party , using the typical scare tactics
that the other journalists on truth Dig have been doing.

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By Alturn, June 7, 2010 at 4:53 pm Link to this comment
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The challenge is many that desire most fervently the coming of the Christ seek the Christ to reaffirm their current world view and lower astral / emotional polarized state of consciousness. Yet the Christ has always been known to be a transcendent and most pure love.  That love seeks to inspire, heal, uplift and show by example how to get out of the paradoxes and blind alleys of a materialistic, judgmental life. 

Instead of possessiveness and divisiveness, the message given has been:
“The answers to your problems are simple indeed.
Many times have I told you that the will to share must govern your lives.
Once again, I repeat: without Sharing and Justice, My brothers and sisters, man will know no peace.
Heed, then, My advice.
Take, then, the only open course and trust in Sharing to relieve the agony of the world.”

It is the difficulty that many believers have in accepting the above course which has held back what they profess to desire most - the appearance to the general public of the already present Christ.

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By nemesis2010, June 7, 2010 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

By tropicgirl, June 7 at 2:38 pm

”When are you going to join the real fight?”

Unfortunately I’m not familiar with much of what you wrote. Could you be more specific as to what this real fight is about? Who is fighting whom? I don’t get it.

Thanks…

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By Ralph Kramden, June 7, 2010 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
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Great article. Reminds me of what Fidel Castro once said about those who fight capitalism by sitting on the front porch waiting for capitalism’s funeral procession to go by. If you haven’t read it, take a peek at Erich Fromm’s “Escape from Freedom.” Those of you who don’t believe it can’t happen here, read how it came about in Germany-a country withthree times our literacy rate and many times more cultured than we are.

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By ThomasG, June 7, 2010 at 3:55 pm Link to this comment

John Ellis, June 7 at 6:00 pm,

So, what political party represents the 89% of the population indicated in your post???????

“LIBERALS
40% Educated middleclass so fool as to think
they deserve someday to have real wealth

NON VOTERS
49% laboring class who feel that in the end
those with wealth will get what they deserve” 
—- John Ellis

The 89% mentioned in your post, I am certain that you agree, have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with freedom and justice for all, and would fight and die to protect these subjective rights as tropes that define the objective rights of the 11% mentioned in your post; perhaps you could explain how the 89% mentioned in your post are represented by the American Dream in objective American Reality with regard to the making and enforcing of legislated law and order by their political representatives in the Representative Democracy of the United States.

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By Old Man Turtle, June 7, 2010 at 3:50 pm Link to this comment
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Mr. Hedges here describes, rather luridly, a plainly pathological condition.  He seems to believe, however, that these growing legions of the lately disaffected are largely just refugees from a collapsing political and economic system that is failing them in particularly egregious ways, while a few others are making-out like bandits.  He suggests naively that if only these misguided congregations were given a real stake in some new-and-improved political-economy, one that wasn’t so grotesquely deformed in its top-heaviness as the present model, these angry and frightened incipient mobs of proto-facsists would forsake “the Christian right” altogether.  They would instead, he claims, return gladly (like cross-eyed bears?) to some semblance of supposed normalcy in what he appears to think is the all-defining democracy of dollars-and-cents that still passes these days among the less unfortunate (like himself?) for the be-all and end-all of human life.

Religious fanatics are not the only people, though, who feel trapped in circumstances beyond their ken and control, and so look for some kind of deliverance by the grace of agencies hopefully more equal to that challenge than they so obviously are proving to be themselves.  Rationalists like Mr. Hedges, for example, look to science and technology.  Secular and some religious (as Mr. Hedges professes also to be) idealists look to a hopefully non-violent reformation in social and political arrangements, one benefiting a bigger section of the national demographic .  Darwinists seem content (because they expect to qualify) to let the thing play-out to whatever litmus-test of “fitness” it must reach eventually.  Pragmatists remain sure it is, as always, mere “might” which will go on filling that bill.

Looked-at without the belief-system filters most people are programmed to depend on, however, modern mankind exhibits all the signs of terminal deterioration that can be observed in those who’ve been subjected to long-term, unrelenting solitary confinement.  Having become not just isolated-from but irrationally terrified-of the “outside” natural world, these prisoners (of their own device?) have effectively cut themselves off from the ecology that engendered and sustained them.  They have crawled out on the spindly limb of human “exceptionaliism,” and then sawed it off behind themselves.  They are no longer connected to what some call The Tree of Life, and so are even now plummeting rootless toward the oblivion of extinction, clinging to whatever shreds of hope they may’ve picked-up from the dying leaves of various texts both sacred and profane. 

It is really no wonder they’re in the awful and desperate shape they are today.  It absolutely does not matter, either, what particular “brand” of mass insanity gets to have the last WORD.  They’ll only be, like they’ve always been, talking to themselves anyhow, a most common symptom of the craziness Mr. Hedges would attribute mainly to those he holds up here as a threat to everybody “else.”

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 2:27 pm Link to this comment

I want a strike where we all go out.
A strike of shoulders, legs, hair,
a strike born in every body.

I want a strike
of workers       of doves
of drivers       of flowers
of technicians     of children
of doctors       of wowmen

I want a big strike
that includes even love.
A strike where everything is shut down.
the watch       the factories
the nursery       the schools
the bus         the hospitals
the highway       the harbors

A strike of eyes, hands, and kisses.
A strike where breathing is banned,
a strike where silence is born
      in order to hear
      the departing footsteps of the tyrant.
BELLI

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By Tobysgirl, June 7, 2010 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment

Chris Hedges seems totally committed to an analysis which fills the ranks of Christian fascists with poor and working-class people. I am not quite as sure as he is about the makeup of these groups.

I was alerted to another possibility many years when watching coverage of a Christian Coalition convention. The attendees were obviously middle- and upper-middle-class people. Yes, some of these people may not be so comfortable at the moment—the essence of bourgeois status is that it’s never a sure thing—but there’s a lot of complaining out there from people who are quite well off.

Are the Texas School Board members poor people? I doubt it. How about the Kansas School Board? I doubt it. I find it a stunning example of class prejudice to assume that because people are moronic they must be of the lower economic orders. We have a wide swath of college graduates in this country who are unbelievably gullible and enraged, a nasty combination. Ripe for any nonsense that promises them endless prosperity or tells them how tough they have it because of [fill in the blank: feminists, homosexuals, black people, atheists, Marxists, etc], they are a threat to a decent society.

What worries me is the gross apathy and passivity of many Americans. The German left was nonchalant about Nazism, and I’m guessing many ordinary people just didn’t think about it. When it was shoved in their faces, then it was too late.

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By ThomasG, June 7, 2010 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment

In the United States there are three (3) classes and cultures and only two institutionalized political parties.

The two institutionalized political parties are the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party represents the Corporatist interests of the Political Right and the Republican Party represents the Conservative Right-Wing EXTREMIST interests of the American Aristocracy.

The 70% majority Common Population of the United States, the American populace, Back Street America, is the Political Left, the Liberal Left, and the Political Left is NOT represented politically in the U.S. Government and the legislature in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order.

The Political Left, in the absence of being represented in the U.S. Government, in both houses of Congress and the Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order is institutionalized as a “populace backlash” that has no other choice than that of voting for the Republican Party, as a backlash against the Democratic Party, or voting for the Democratic Party, as a backlash against the Republican Party ——No other choice is available to the 70% majority Common Population of the United States, the American Populace, Back Street America, with regard to the American Populace participating in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order that is representative of the 70% majority Common Population of the United States.

Backlash as the only liberal alternative for the American Populace between the Hard Right of the Republican Party and the Light Right of the Democratic Party is NOT political representation of the American Populace in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order in the United States and is in effect “legislation without representation” of the 70% majority Common Population of the United States that makes their political interests subject to the expedient whims of the American Aristocracy and corporate interests of the Professional Middle Class.

Is it any wonder that the American Populace is being led against their best interests by a lunatic fringe of the Evangelical Christian Movement, when that Evangelical Christian Movement is their only choice other than backlash between the Right-Wing interests of the Republican Party and the Democratic Party?

Subjective tropes of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with freedom and justice for all, the amorphous nonsense of the American Dream is not sufficient to offset the American Reality that the 70% majority Common Population of the United States, the American Populace, Back Street America, is NOT politically represented in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order in the United States; this creates a vacuum of political representation and leadership that is then filled by the lunatic fringe of the Evangelical Christian Movement as a backlash because the American Populace is being excluded from the process of the making and enforcing of legislated law and order in the United States.

If it is the intent of the U.S. Government, the American Aristocracy, and the Professional Middle Class to politically empower the Evangelical Christian Movement as the political leadership of the 70% majority Common Population of the United States, the denial of political representation by a political party and “legislation without representation” that denies the 70% majority Common Population, the American populace, Back Street America’s participation in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order is certainly the way to empower the lunatic fringe of the Evangelical Christian Movement.

The problem is NOT the LIBERALS.

How can the LIBERALS be the problem, when the problem of the Political Left, the Liberals, is that they are NOT represented by either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party in the making and enforcing of legislated law and order in the United States?

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By hen/egg, June 7, 2010 at 1:00 pm Link to this comment
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“...under the sun.” Koheleth
“... a pretence of liberty to destroy liberty,
a pretence of religion to destroy religion.” Blake

Inquisition dates- 1203ce-1808ce (1808 no misprint)

Waterboarding….......priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By DFC, June 7, 2010 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment

As an atheistic person, and one who is sadly in agreement with the author about christianism, etc. I wish to point out that the Grand Canyon as a geologic feature of a 6 billion year old planet is not 6 BILLION years old itself, and, as a geologically recent occurrence not even close at approximately 17 million years (or perhaps even less—less than 10 million—according earlier geologic study) in a river basin only formed around 40 million years ago. The lowest rock strata in the canyon uncovered by the erosive effect of the Colorado River dates to about 2 billion years.

Such erroneous statements only weaken the argument. A few minutes with Wikipedia on popular big subjects like geology and The Grand Canyon can be helpful when composing an argument against ignorance and religious imperialism.

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By Diana Brooks, June 7, 2010 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment
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I like my own religious myths. As for people who really believe in virgin births, God chosen people, heaven/hell after spiritual transcenion-is crazier than me. What a waste?

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By anaman51, June 7, 2010 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

Christers. I’m bloody sick of christers! Keep your biblical horseshit out of my life and your pandering morons off my doorstep. Get your ridiculous bible out of our government and out of our lives! The whole of your idiotic religion is based on fairy tales and should have been dumped by sane society a couple of centuries ago. I will not follow your brainless biblical laws! I will not teach them to my children! In fact, I think the whole damn lot of you should be arrested for teaching that crap to your own children before they’re capable of discerning the difference between a fairy tale and reality.  I’d tell the lot of you to shove that stupid book up your collective ass, but your collective head is in the way. I have no use for you, and thankfully, I doubt if your bizarre sect will survive the forces of evolution. You are universally detested for your rampant ignornance, and your willingness to inflict it upon the rest of us.

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By Herk, June 7, 2010 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

Although Hedges appears to be magnifying this threat, I’m not so sure he’s off the mark. I’m guessing that this is at least partly in response to the apparently successful bid by Texans to destroy their own education system and take down as much of the rest as they can.

However, I do wish he’d quit referring to atheism as a ‘belief system.’ There is no shared belief system among atheists and it is in fact not a system. Many of us have things in common with each other, but the chief of these is a LACK of belief.

That we might agree on specific things or that perhaps the majority of us lean to the left does not constitute a valid system. You can only use belief when you don’t have knowledge.

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 7, 2010 at 12:00 pm Link to this comment

Hinduism has done a much better job than Christianity at preparing the rank and file for the crushing poverty that attends capitalism.  Upon conversion, perhaps if you bear the yoke nobly (and quietly) in this life, you’ll be reincarnated into something magnificent—A Bush perhaps, or a Falwell.

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By MarthaA, June 7, 2010 at 11:51 am Link to this comment

It is difficult for me to imagine how any member of the populace could determine that they are equal with the aristocracy and that because they think they are equal with the aristocracy, that the fascist, conservative, corporate, Republican, aristocrats will represent them and consider populace members equal with the aristocracy,  which is what the conservative Christian populace does.

The Republican Party is the party of the autocratic, conservative, authoritarian, aristocracy who will never represent the populace as anything but slaves.  There is no way the 70% peasant populace can separate the GOP from their conservative, aristocratic, Republican Party; all that can happen is that the Republican Party will gain more of the populace and make democracy more difficult and life more burdensome for the rest of the populace. 

If the Christian peasant populace thinks that because they are genteel, conservative, Christians relying on a social network of the Christian peasant populace that the conservative aristocracy will think better of them, they are engaged in wishful thinking,  because the conservative aristocracy sees the peasant populace as slaves, Christian or not. 

The conservative Christian populace will never be equal with the conservative aristocracy, no matter how hard they try on this earth, equality will only be arrived at in the next world.

Prosperity is not equality and man made prosperity is easily brought down by the conservative aristocracy.

If a person believes in his heart that he is a sinner, and that Jesus the Christ, the Son of God, who being no less than God, made himself man and died 2,010 years ago for mankind’s sins, and accepts in his/her heart that the blood of Jesus through Jesus’ death covered his/her sins and unashamedly confesses before man that he/she is a sinner and unashamedly accepts Jesus’s death as the gift of God to cover his/her sins, then that person has become a Christian, no if’‘s,  and’s , but’s, or maybe’s;  Jesus will come into their heart and the rest of the Christians will know them by their fruits of the Spirit of God, which are love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance, Galatians 5:22-23.  Prosperity is not a fruit of the Spirit.

Demagogs have no fruit of the Spirit., and there are various degrees of demagoguery in Christianity and the Conservative Right Church is being led by demagoguery.

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By maxpayne, June 7, 2010 at 11:27 am Link to this comment

It is ironic that my wife’s parents both converted from Hindu to Christianity in India but that she wants to convert from Christianity to Hindu. After visiting the East, I began to see why that might not be such a bad idea after all. There are other great religions in the Far East but Hinduism sparks my interest the most. Of all religions tied to the military, not even Islam can win the contest on militarism against the Christians. Those of us who are good Christians are already marginalized anyway. I think that a beautiful morning spent meditating for an hour at the beach would be better than getting bored listening to sermons at a church that nobody follows. As my wife and I prepare to part with Christianity, I will be contemplating what the USA would have been like as a Hindu nation for a change. At least I would wager that a Hindu USA would be peaceful and not a lost soul that the current USA is today.

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By Hammond Eggs, June 7, 2010 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

The rise of this Christian fascism, a rise we ignore at our peril, is being fueled by an ineffectual and bankrupt liberal class . . .

Should Christian fascism come to rule the United States (and the possibility is very, very real) then, indeed, scum like Obama and the “ineffectual and bankrupt liberal class” will have played a major part in ushering in the death of this nation.

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By RavenBot, June 7, 2010 at 11:13 am Link to this comment

Huzza! Let us all lump together a group of people based on their religious faction! Perhaps next we can do as commentators have said and put them all in camps or an island. I mean that worked so well before.

The problem ,as always, has nothing to do with religion, social status, or political outlook. We the people are the problem. The same people that would do horrible things in the name of Christianity would still be doing horrible things even without the excuse of their religion. As a Christin (living in the south I might add) I am kinda surprised just how few of these crazy Christian fascists I have met. They are a minority, at least here. Don’t be so quick to judge all Christians because of articles like this. Most all the Christians I have met here even believe in Theological evolution and not the 6000 year creation.

Oh and mrfreeze I assure you even as a Christian I still have to pay taxes.

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By eatbees, June 7, 2010 at 11:13 am Link to this comment

This is a wonderful, if exaggerated account of a movement which needs to be taken seriously. But it’s existed since the days of William Jennings Bryan and Father McCoughlin, and was already in power under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Since Hedges advocates “a reality-based hope for the future” as a solution to the problem, I’d like to hear more about that.

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By RWS, June 7, 2010 at 11:06 am Link to this comment

Chris has finally gone off the fucking deep-end. What a waste.

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By OzarkMichael, June 7, 2010 at 10:58 am Link to this comment

In response to Hedges’article title, all I can say is:

/flex

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By tropicgirl, June 7, 2010 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

Hedges is completely off the mark. He’s confusing everything together.

It is Hedges that needs to wake up. The so-called progressives are not weak,
they are crooked and dastardly. The Anglo-American(-Israeli, when it benefits
them) Alliance is all over the world, using military and secret police to take
resources for the world banks.

How you can be so ignorant of this is beyond me. It has to be willful at this
point.

There IS a conspiracy to control the world through fascism, socialism and
bankruptcy. This time they are packaging it all together.

We saw some of them photographed at the Bilderberg in Spain this last week.
Afghanistan is simply about the CIA dealing heroin and laundering the money
via the too big to fails. Iraq is about BP stealing oil. England is drugging their
citizens, massive vaccine scams are making people sick and world corporations
are polluting people into infertility. Wars, since the turn of the century, are a
series of false flag events designed to dupe soldiers into fighting for countries
to steal resources. There is no Bin Laden and 911 WAS an inside job. The Queen
of England, the owner of BP, is from a long line of international crime-
committers, against her own people and the world, like Lucretia Borgia.

There is nothing nice here. Nothing good. Socialism is not cute as Obama the
Fool has shown us. It spies, tortures, poisons and kills. So don’t pretend this
kind of evil does not exist. You are wasting your time and the time of others
when you regurgitate the vomit of the New World Order. This kind of article
belongs in Disneyland.

Got it now? When are you going to join the real fight?

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By George Bachmann, June 7, 2010 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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Why is the word, “fascism” used in this article.  To
me it still means a way of organizing a nationalist
economic State where the components (labor,owner
Capitalists) form various ‘Corporations’ which are
overseen by the State, above which there is nothing -
the National State’s role being to ‘impose’ the ‘Common
Good’ (no globalization here).  This system requires
a very strong ‘nationalistic’ orientation, and I assume
social organization as well.  It would also, by
necessity be authoritarian - somebody has to kick butt
or knock heads together to get something done.
  But I do not see how the use of this word is appropriate in this article which barely mentions
economics.  Check out Giovanni Gentile’s book
entitled, “Origini e dottrina del fascismo”, the
‘father’ of fascist doctrine.
  Perhaps a better term might be found for what the
writer is trying to express.

—GB

 
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By mrfreeze, June 7, 2010 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Kevin Barry - Please explain what’s so “scummy” about the commentary on this thread. Some of us, adults, have endured the utter vacuousness of American religious fundamentalism (in all its glorious, arrogant stupidity) our whole lives and, frankly, we get to have our say here, amongst ourselves. Call us a new “religion.”

Come to think of it folks, why don’t we just form a new religion so we can enjoy the blessings of a “tax exempt status,” pay no property taxes, legally persecute others for “bad thoughts,” found a university that bases all of its science courses on a 6000 year creation myth and ban all those commie professors from teaching our precious children? Let’s do it!!!!

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By Brian Dykstra, June 7, 2010 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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Praying::
Dear Heavenly fill-in-the-blank…thanks for the tanks we can roll out against
the forces on horses who pray to the gods who speak other discourses and
freak with the weak cause our god is better. 
Give praise for the days our haze has been lifted our worries been shifted from
afterlife strife we won’t have to suffer since our eyes have been sighted our
darkness’s lighted our righteousness righted our enemies blighted and starved
out delighted to find out that our god is better.
We’ll march them to death camps trough trails of tears to relax our worst fears
as we fail to nail ourselves to our crosses, we bosses of heathens we breathe in
we free men untaxed, relaxed, ignoring the facts, cause our god is better.
We’ll crush them and rush them to a hell they can’t comprehend while we bend
all the rules encrusted with jewels that weigh down our friends in our heavenly
ends welcomed by wives cause we gave our lives to prove our best god lives
with a vest of explosives and the message that gives, cause our god is! And our
god is better.
We’ll invade and enslave unfettered by braves we’ll pray to the letter every day
we’ll get wetter with blood of the debtor we no longer forgive while we tell our
tales subverting females with the ways that get her and how much we let her
and how often we sweat her cause our god is our god and our god is better!

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By Kevin Barry, June 7, 2010 at 10:04 am Link to this comment
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I’m not sure how to do it, but after reading your “article” and the commentary… I’m pretty sure I’ll have to wash the computer just to get the scum out of it.
Honestly, you folks are deranged. Some sick puppies.

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By felicity, June 7, 2010 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

I still say that this ‘movement’ got a real shot in the arm with the election of a black president.

From the New Yorker, Sept ‘08, “The Obama Nation” by Corsi.  “Obama…is a corrupt, enraged, anti-American, drug-dealing, anti-Israel, pseudo-Christian radical leftist, black-militant, plagerist and liar, trained as a Muslim and mentored by a menagerie of Marxists, Communists, cryto-communists and terrorists.” 

I read this as having been written by someone who is scared shitless of black people and I submit that this pseudo-christian movement is made up of people who are just plain scared shitless.

The only thing I can do to combat this juggernaut - if we are to believe Hedges that’s what the movement is - is to fight like hell when it hits my community.  Otherwise?  Liberals, short of instigating revolutions in the streets - which they rarely fight in - are not the gathering sort so it’s pie-in-the-sky to call them to unite.

If it’s any consolation, some argue that the free-for-all-free-love-open-marriage-peace-love and flowered ‘60’s and ‘70’s was a direct reaction to the stiltifying-McCarthy-button-down ‘50’s.  Could happen again.  (I loved those ‘flowered’ years, by the way.)

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By Peter Knopfler, June 7, 2010 at 9:56 am Link to this comment

Christians since the very first Paul real name SAUL of Tarshish, who lied about a Malaria hallucination called it a revelation. Since then Christians are confused from the truth all blind faith does this.How many Christians look at the CROSS and thinK oh the Rabbi hanging on the Cross, king of Jews on top written by the Romans, becasue Yashua-Jesus was a RABBI taught by the Famous RABBAN OF JERUSALEM Rabban Gamalieil. 42 years later the same Rabbi taught a young JEW from Tashish Saul. A born epileptic, constantly sick, never comfortable with his body, refused to have a women, hated women changed his name to PAUL AND CAME UP with this crazy malaria driven name of JESUS, The question whether he existed remains, He was born from a Rabbinical family father Joseph also a Rabbi, mother Mary whos father was also a RABBI. The idea of a carpenter is crazy, no trees in Nazareth, nearest tree lebanon, 1200 miles away. You see folks lies the christian religion originates from lies from Paul, Mathew, luke etc gave their thoughts to paul and while in prison Paul translated Hebrew and Araimac to greek.`Well thats a problem because, greek language is one word one thought. Hebrew and Ariamac is one word three thoughts. The jew sees in threes because He looks at the same picture through his mind, his body and his spirit 3 thoughts one word. Paul`s Greek New testament is 1/3 of the information, right from the get go its was all wrong 2010 years of lies can cofuse an entire world population and as Martin Luther translated to German from Greek and again we linguistic gymnastics and therefore easy to add or subtract from the original TEXT.Martin Luther himself a racist hated JEWS. Inquisition Killing Jews and Women, Hitller of Third Reich just like the two before when otto the Great was Crowned, by the POPE Emperor of all of Europe, Vatican has had close relations with all three reichs, and now this was an ex Nazi soldier.No one wants to know the truth! why?  this blind faith is a cancer of the brain, Islam does the same game, only more violent, what goes around comes around, and THE RABBI hanging on the CHRISTIAN ROMAN CROSS, is the endless war, take the Rabbi down and get your own center piece, for a change like St. Francis. Jewish Calendar 5770, and only 14 million Jews world wide and 7 million of those, in Israel, VS 2.1 BILLION CHRISTIANS, and 1.3 million Muslims, compared to that 3.4 million people trying to kill off 14 million Jews Now thats a fair fight, 100,000 to I. Why so few jews? if we have been around,for 4000 years before Islam, you bwould think there would be more opf us But no, killing us off every few years, fun Ya! Don`t worry we got you surrounded, the jew says to the arab. Two major BLIND faith folks will evetually Clash and decide which lies to believe, don`t feel bad, I know you don`t, but we jews will be here as we were 3560 years before all of you and even after you disappear into the waste bin of History. Chritianity like Islam a fantasy deadly fantasy. Don`t forget Christians in History has killed more women than any other group of People. KNOW YOUR TRUTH!WORLD!

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By 1stimevisitor, June 7, 2010 at 9:45 am Link to this comment
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“Mike” said: “Those who criticize Israel are seriously deranged,”

So the present administration was seriously deranged before they took power? Or was the unassailable perfection of Isreali policy and action only realized with the present administration?

Mike, to suggest that any government on earth is so perfect that to criticize it is not only misguided but “seriously deranged” is .. well enough to mark all of your opinions as unworthy of any serious consideration.

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By rwmenser, June 7, 2010 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

Hey, we are our own Taliban, eh?  About time someone else saw this as well.  Typical ignorant hypocrites.  When will they start turning out in American Flag Burkas?

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By mike, June 7, 2010 at 9:27 am Link to this comment
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Good article. But it fails to mention the most dangerous and nazi-like element of this right-wing movement, which are the anti-semites. Altho they call themselves “leftists”, “progressives” and “pacifists” they are nothing of the kind. They are extremely violent, right-wing extremists who want to kill all those who are different from them. The fact that they attempt to hide their real motives by denying their links to right-wing groups (made obvious during the recent Turkish attack on Israel) only makes them more dangerous. People need to wake up. It is the anti-semites who are leading the right-wingers and anyone who believes in human rights, the rule of law, democracy, or respect for those of other ethnic groups or religions, must stand up to them.  Those who criticize Israel are seriously deranged, and incapable of rational judgment. They represent a direct threat to our democracy, the rule of law, and our way of life, and must be stopped. I recognize that they are just a tiny minority of Americans, less than 1% of the population (if that), but they are a very dangerous and violent minority. Small groups like them can cause a lot of damage, and we should respond before we find ourselves being ruled by the nazis, and anyone who isn’t a white Christian heterosexual is forced to wear a yellow, pink or black star, if not imprisoned in one of their concentration camps. I’m not exaggerating.

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By bookmark dofollow, June 7, 2010 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

It is at once refreshing and all too sad to see this piece. Refreshing that someone recognizes how truly dangerous America’s Taliban are; sad that their regressive lunacy has such traction in the USA.
And wishing somehow it is possible to put them and like-minded Muslim zealots on a desert island, then broadcast them fighting to the death on pay-per-view is not a solution.
Unfortunately, they will have to dealt with, and soon, lest they drag the world into a new Dark Age.

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By dcrimso, June 7, 2010 at 9:19 am Link to this comment

Wake me up when prostitution and porno are illegal.  Then you’ll have plenty of riled up Christian Theocrats.  William Thompson reminds us that the last gasp of a cultural phenom is similar to the ghost dancer’s in the 1800’s.  The Christian Theocrats don’t have enough guts.  I prefer to be paranoid about the military.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 7, 2010 at 9:10 am Link to this comment

Good article, Chris I like when you stir up the `poop. Here is another angle for you, or anyone. Problem is not the right Christians this is a response the Muslim Islam spreading. The Christians still believe in Womens rights, and these people hate the way Muslims treat their women, no rights for Isamic girls, So when they see Burka in Seattle, Michigan,Houston yes they get Wild see this Muslim Burkas veils Obama Hussain is bringing 6000 Libian Islamic students, C_SPAN AMBASSADOR OF LIBIA CONFERENCE, to be educated in USA, for free State is picking up the tab, a gift to THE Dictator OMAR King Kadaffi,is the same as Sadam Hussain same kingd of creep no rights for nobody in Libia, But Obama kissing more Arab butt. However until ALL WOMEN are free we Men will never be free. American Christians don`t want to be like England and yet when hands across the Atlantic, and the English Defense league, EDL joins the White supremists of AmericA. why not if Iran CAN HAVE A Supreme LEADER THAT SOON WILL PUSH THE WORLD AROUND WITH NUKES All you girls out there will wear veils, stay in the house, NO FREEDOM So the Christian fundamentalists are a direct compliment to Muslim Domination, FREE ALL WOMEN OF MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND YOU WILL FREE THE WORLD. Change happens from within for women of Islam LET FREEDOM REIGN!

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By diman, June 7, 2010 at 9:07 am Link to this comment

By cmarcusparr

America, once the light of the world…

Wnen did it shine exactly? This light you are talking about.

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By Ed Harges, June 7, 2010 at 8:55 am Link to this comment

G. Andersen claims this is happening because our “national social policy embraces
the desruction of the family, by enforcing divorce instead of marriage”.

Um, what? How is divorce “enforced”? And why would you want marriage
“enforced” instead? 

Or is that not what you meant? If you meant something else, then please learn to
write with some minimal clarity before making sweeping pronouncements.

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By G.Anderson, June 7, 2010 at 8:25 am Link to this comment

Of course this was bound to happen.

When your national social policy embraces the desruction of the family, by enforcing divorce instead of marriage, so that you can dispossess the entire middle class of their wealth through child support enforcement, what did you think was going to happen?

Soon, the Christian right will begin to take power legally, by election. The aftermath of this will mean a hard right turn in both law and American politics..

Ironically, it will be the social policies of the left that made it possible.

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By sollipsist, June 7, 2010 at 8:22 am Link to this comment

To summarize: the controversial Arizona immigration
laws are actually part of a sinister Christian plot.

There, I saved you from reading three dreary pages. Now
let’s go round up some a them Jesus-lovers, boys! Yee-
haw!

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By radson, June 7, 2010 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

“Watch where the huskies go don’t eat yellow snow” .The gentleman in question referred to it as a Fascist Theocracy and his description still holds true today.

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By Ed Harges, June 7, 2010 at 8:08 am Link to this comment

Hedges is very wise in pointing to mass economic hopelessness, the feeling of
falling into an economic abyss, as the key to the growing power of this insane
ideology.

Many of the people who get into this crap first reach a point in their lives where
they’re cornered, and they say to themselves, “OK, so reality hasn’t worked.
Thinking for myself hasn’t worked. What else can I try?”

Then they walk through that ideological door, and the door back into reality not
only closes but disappears behind them.

They have, so to speak, always been at war with Eastasia.

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By cmarcusparr, June 7, 2010 at 7:48 am Link to this comment

There are signs everywhere: in climate change and the collapsed economy; in man-made calamities such as the BP oil disaster in the Gulf; in the narco-war along the Mexican border, in our endless military adventurism in Afghanistan; in the blowback against the West from all corners of the globe; in the rise of new corporate-totalitarian states such as China; in the growing ranks of the poor and the entrenchment of the oligarchs. There are signs of decadence everywhere; of ignorance posing as ideology; of a failure of ideas and political will; of a takeover of the U.S. federal government by financial corporate powers; of the end of literacy, the rise of spectacle, and the demise of journalism. We are rushing to our ruination, voting against our own best interests, squelching debate through propaganda, and abolishing the principles that were once responsible for our own best achievements.

As Sinclair Lewis said in It Can’t Happen Here: “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Darkness is descending upon us, a kind of political Ice Age that will put an end to the delusion of our “democratic period.” It will come abruptly, as it came to the Roman Republic when Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon. We will come under the cruel thumb of dictatorship in an empire that is corrupt from within. The U.S. is rotten to the core like an old oak, hollowed out by termites called “the elites.” We are a nation indebted to foreign central banks, stripped of our wealth and yet armed to the teeth. America, once the light of the world, will become the bane of humankind as it threatens its enemies, which are legion, with an arsenal of nuclear weapons as it sinks into the tar pit of history.

All great empires end this way. America is no exception. We are not special. Americans believe the propaganda that their nation is the “greatest among all nations” when in fact it became globally dominant, an empire, by waging war almost endlessly, throughout its history, against other nations, first against Native Americans, North America’s first people, and onward against all others who impeded our “manifest destiny” to exploit the continent. Now, unfortunately for those living in America, it’s payback time.

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By mrfreeze, June 7, 2010 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

The perfect laboratory for Hedges’ concerns is alive and well in the state of UT among the followers of the Mormon Church. All one needs to do is go to their “visitor’s centre” and take a look at the statue representing Jesus: Muscular, strong, almost Rambo-like. Also, the description Hedges gives for the faithful (anti-communist,anti-gay…etc..) is a perfect description of how Mormonism runs its “business.” UT is also the progenitor of a slew of ridiculous conspiracy theories, fake science and linguistics (“reformed Egyptian anyone?), the John Birch Society and many others.

The most important point is, living under the influence of American religious stupidity turns people into perpetual adolescents, unable to see the world from any but their own perspective. Just live among the faithful to see how insanely coercive, manipulative and downright infantile their way of life is.

Finally, a good friend of mine (British) said that it’s too bad we didn’t get the Australian rejects from England. They at least were criminals. Instead, the Brits unloaded all the religious nuts onto this continent.

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By hmk, June 7, 2010 at 7:26 am Link to this comment
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As repugnant as the Christian Right is, I think it serves a deeper purpose in human evolution than simply the generation of hate and intolerance.  I disagree with those who say that, were it not for the Catholic Church, we would have put a man on the moon a thousand years ago.  Instead, I think, had it not been for the active suppression of science for a thousand years, we would have destroyed ourselves long ago.  Which makes me think there’s a mechanism in our evolutionary development which acts as a brake when our intelectual arrogance approaches a tipping point - a mechanism which sets people on a downward spiral into barbarism, thereby once again re-setting the point of our self-destruction to sometime in the distant rather than the immediate future.  If that’s the case, it’s certainly a horrendous mechanism; but given our penchant for imagining ourselves the crown of creation, a necessary corrective.

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By Wounded and Dangerous, June 7, 2010 at 7:13 am Link to this comment

Seems like the Christian element has been around for some time. I remember as a young teenager writing in to the local tv station to protest the workings of the local evangelicals in our area. I knew that what they were pushing was false and most likely criminal. Criminal in the sense that God cannot be proven and that the televangelists were merely selling something that had no real validity. I took this group of people to be a bunch of con men.

I think I was right in my assertions after all these years. Many have been exposed for what they are, namely fakes and charlatans. But, they persist these religious addicts do. They continue to haunt us and to try and control us. But, there is more of course because these religious fundamentalists have their own controllers. It is kind of like the ecosystem in the fish world and the whole animal kingdom. Everyone is engaged in the business of devouring one another. And, in the social human world that means that everyone is trying devour,  and or control each other.

The Republican Party for example discovered what a useful group this Christian group was and they pandered to them. Having garnered their vote they were able to execute their political power and to conduct war abroad and to take our civil liberties away from us. The Christian evangelicals are complicit in this disintegration of course. Christians believe in these wars and they do in fact promote them. But, who is controlling the Republicans and now the Democrats who have succeeded them? Is it still the right wing Christians or even Christians generally?  Who voted in the Democrats and how did they achieve power? Surely, some of the backers of Democrats must be Christians otherwise how would the Democrats and Obama ever achieve power? Of course some of them are Christians. But, has the agenda really changed? Not at all, it is simply more of the same under the Obama’s ( liberal ) Administration. Nothing has changed at all, except we now have something called the Tea Baggers and the out of control tv personalities like Glenn Beck and many others of course. Who do you think controls Glenn Beck? And, who do you think is responsible for the changes and shifts in public opinion? Who gets the job done when it comes time to changing the government?  Is it the Christian Right or the Glenn Becks of the world?  Just who is the big fish here and how come the little sucker fish never seem to be able to figure anything out?

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By Ed Harges, June 7, 2010 at 7:08 am Link to this comment

Re:By David Ehrenstein, June 7 at 10:40 am:

Or maybe a Night of the Long Knives.

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By Mundt, June 7, 2010 at 6:46 am Link to this comment

Dear Chris Hedges: Your hysteria & paranoia are growing stronger. Palin/Brewer, 2012.

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By David Ehrenstein, June 7, 2010 at 6:40 am Link to this comment

As the Christian Right is made up almost entirely of closeted gay men, it’s only a White Party away from imploding.

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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, June 7, 2010 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

The Christian Right is full of weaklings, with their principal weakness being their inability to take personal responsibility for individual failure.  Can’t handle your heroin?  Blame the drug peddler.  Troubled by your attraction to little boys?  Blame the gays.  Prospective employers don’t value that diploma you earned from that unacredited storefront Christian “college” set up in the former ACE Hardware section of a Panama City strip mall?  Blame the liberal professors of the secular university system.

Same as any other gang of thugs.  Individually, they’re chickensh*ts.

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By Jim Yell, June 7, 2010 at 6:34 am Link to this comment
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This madness is not just Christian and American but is the whole sum of Abrahamic Relgions. In declaring that America was founded by Christians, the Christians amongst us ignore that the majority of people turned away from Christianity were raised in religous environment, saw the hypocrisy and lies and when given protection of the law, as rightly they should be they left the churches in droves.

To be fair this isn’t even a religious movement. It is those fragile people who can not control themselves and so spend their energies trying to control others and in the process create misery for everyone else and sometimes, yes even for themselves. They have a psychiatric disorder and should be treated for it.

Our secular civil government and society is the shield for all of us Religous or not. It will be a terrible thing if we cave to these monsters. Religion should not dicate what is science as what is Religion is not “fact”.

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By gabrielle agachiko, June 7, 2010 at 6:12 am Link to this comment
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i see this so clearly, and as a student of history, i see that we are repeating it, yet again.  the frustration for me comes with the knowledge of history, and America’s seeming NEED to repeat it; it’s complete unwillingness to learn from other countries; it’s incredibly myopic viewpoint on energy, environment, lifestyle.  America will deny the threat of christian fascism because America operates under a “don’t look at it until it’s too late” schedule.  it seems we must experience a fascist state HERE before people take the threat of what happens in other places, seriously.

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By thecrow, June 7, 2010 at 6:11 am Link to this comment

“The Democrats have refused to repeal the gross violations of international and domestic law codified by the Bush administration. This means that Christian fascists who achieve power will have the “legal” tools to spy on, arrest, deny habeas corpus to, and torture or assassinate American citizens—as does the Obama administration.”

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/thepassion/

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By balkas, June 7, 2010 at 6:01 am Link to this comment

Pols often proclaim that US is a nation of laws; as interpreted by judiciary. No one on street needs to apply for the job.

US had been always very asocialistic [fascistic]. So, the structure of society-governance is the same.

Movements come and go, but basic structures stay the same.Basic members of the structure of governing satys the same: city police,fbi,cia,army,pols, clergy,media,plutos, and judiciary perform the same role they always have.

Can such a governance do more harm to domestics and aliens? Yes, it can! Will it? Yes, it will!

‘Religions’ {read, pls, cults]have never gladhanded each other. In fact, each cult wants to destroy every other cult.

World plutos are also cultists. They only want prestige-power-money.
Guess which cult had prevailed over the last 8 k yrs?

Cia-fbi-army-congress like money ueber alles. Also spricht bozhidarevski. danke

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By Gunter Pfaff, June 7, 2010 at 6:01 am Link to this comment
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The only hope I have is that this American Taliban you describe so well will not be able to accomplish too much as far as empire building is concerned - because we are already running out of money.

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By ofersince72, June 7, 2010 at 5:54 am Link to this comment

You are really getting out there Hedges.
The Christians are coming, the Christains are coming.

How about helping us elect a good president.

$2100, and anyone can go for a hike and listen to some
more of this mumble jumble.

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