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The Candidate-vs.-President CanardPosted on Dec 17, 2009
By David Sirota Every now and then, an insider inadvertently exposes the hideous rationalizations that run the American political grotesquerie. The best known of these statements are memorialized on TV as “gaffes.” But the ones that never become famous tend to reveal the ugliest assumptions of all. A case in point is the comment the pharmaceutical industry recently let fly in The Washington Post. The newspaper this week examined how the Obama administration crushed legislation that would have allowed Americans to purchase lower-priced FDA-approved medicines from abroad—legislation that President “It’s about being a candidate as opposed to being president,” said the drug industry’s top lobbyist in defense of Obama’s flip-flop. This explanation is common among politicos—we last heard it when The New York Times’ John Harwood quoted an administration aide attacking those demanding Obama fulfill his campaign pledges. Disenchanted activists, said the White House, “need to take off [their] pajamas, get dressed and realize that governing a closely divided country is complicated.” These “candidate vs. president” idioms are standard among Beltway elites who belong to what New York University’s Jay Rosen calls “The Church of the Savvy.” Their catechism says that anyone demanding that a president deliver on campaign promises is naive because, allegedly, there is an inherent difference between what a candidate can tell voters and what that candidate can support as president. Those rejecting this “savvy” interpretation are therefore lambasted as petulant children who refuse to “take off their pajamas” and “get dressed.” Advertisement First, ignoring presidents’ broken promises defiles our republican democracy. In America, we get to choose presidents only every four years, meaning we must rely on campaign promises as metrics for electoral choices. But if the entire idea of the campaign promise becomes an assumed joke, then we have zero metrics by which to elect leaders. Second, an obvious but taboo truth: There are almost no substantive reasons candidates cannot champion their election-year promises once in office. These pledges are made through deliberative processes. Candidates shouldn’t make them if they’re not serious about following through—and it’s not unreasonable to ask officeholders to at least try to honor the campaign commitments that informed voters’ electoral decisions. That’s especially true on something like drug importation, whose opposition is about enlarging profits, not, as Obama aides argue, about protecting consumer safety. Drug companies already manufacture medicines in the developing world so as to evade U.S. labor, environmental and safety regulations. They then legally import those products for sale to Americans at inflated prices. The new bill would have merely let wholesalers, not just manufacturers, also import medicines—but at the lower prices at which the manufacturers concurrently sell those medicines abroad. Such wholesale importation is permitted throughout Europe and the rest of the industrialized world. So two questions: If the administration actually believes importation is unsafe, why isn’t it banning current drug imports? And if the administration specifically insists wholesale importation is unsafe, then where are the dead Europeans? Certainly, some “candidate vs. president” differences might justify rare instances of dishonesty. A president might momentarily dissemble to, say, protect soldiers on the battlefield. But fibbing for the public good is different than breaking promises for private gain. In the latter cases, “candidate vs. president” apologias are non sequiturs. They justify nothing—and they clearly do not rationalize an importation U-turn by Obama designed only to protect a drug cartel. That kind of power-coddling reversal insults voters, and absolving such an insult isn’t savvy—it betrays our nation’s founding principles. David Sirota is the author of the best-selling books “Hostile Takeover” and “The Uprising.” He hosts the morning show on AM760 in Colorado and blogs at OpenLeft.com. E-mail him at ds@davidsirota.com. © 2009 Creatos.com Previous item: The Fallacy of Good vs. Evil in Afghanistan Next item: Democrats Need More Pelosi, Less Reid CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
By starfish, December 22, 2009 at 12:38 pm Link to this comment
Here’s the best column I’ve read recently on what a fraud Obama is: http://tinyurl.com/ycx7s6s
Report thisBy Mary Ann McNeely, December 22, 2009 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment
By gerard, December 21 at 3:44 pm #
Yeah, well ... again ... scatology doesn’t get it. Just cheapens the string. It’s a free country, of course, but ..... poverty of thought is the worst kind of slavery.
If you think, at this late date, that Obama is owed any respect at all, then I don’t know what to say. I’ve been watching this nation decline precipitously for well over forty years. George Worthless Bush vastly accelerated that decline. Now we have Obama whose shameless, almost gleeful lying further accelerates that decline. He may very well have been the last chance to save constitutional rule in this nation. He quickly turned out to be the worst sort of Judas. His daily, ongoing betrayal is truly breathtaking. I despise Obama as much as I despised Bush. Was this the culmination of the Civil Rights Movement? A black person is finally elected president and quickly turns out to be a totally corrupt, even brutal, run-of-the-mill political vampire. He deserves every possible permutation of insult that can be flung at him. I, for one, intend going on insulting him until truthdig throws me off its site.
Report thisBy Thong-girl, December 22, 2009 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
The curse of the “Gore-failure blamed on Nadar Syndrome.” It has paralyzed the U.S.A. and threatens to garner its very own conference for this most delusional of deems. No, neither Al Gore, nor Ralphie Nadar, or his nadir, will be there; and no again, the site has not been chosen.
Report thisBy Lou, December 21, 2009 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment
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“If he fooled you David, and that’s why you became so
crazed about him that you passed on vicious lies
about Hillary and her supporters, why haven’t you
apologized for being punked?”
Like scumbag-war-monger Hillary would be better.
Report thisThe choice between garbage and garbage.
By gerard, December 21, 2009 at 2:29 pm Link to this comment
“These pledges are made through deliberative processes. Candidates shouldn’t make them if they’re not serious about following through—and it’s not unreasonable to ask officeholders to at least try to honor the campaign commitments that informed voters’ electoral decisions.” (quote-unquote)
It’s not merely about “honoring commitments”—it’s the bald-faced fact that campaign promises are almost always made in reference to real problems in the country that need changes. If those promises are neglected after election, it is those real problems that are neglected, and real people suffer as a result.
Most people vote for someone they think they can count on to do things they think need to be done. The betrayal comes not only in the neglect of promises but in the lack of accountability—that is, going before the public and explaining why this or that campaign promise can’t be fulfilled and that an apology and explanation is therefore necessary.
Just walking away from promises is a bad deal all round, making a liar out of the candidate and a fool out of the persons who voted for him or her. The final effect is a sick society and a sick politics—which is what we have on our hands.
Trust is reborn with “fessinsg up”—but “fessing up” is sadly out of style in America where apology is considered a sign of weakness, and bulling your way through no matter what is a sign of strength. Viz: The wars.
Even in personal politics, the courts are over-run with cases where a simple apology might negate the necessity of going to trial. Yet to “confess guilt” is almost unheard-of, and guilt isn’t even felt by people who steal, cheat and lie as a matter of daily business. Instead, they get richer and more powerful. The standard Americn “out” is religious conversion where forgiveness is automatic and payback is overloo;ed in the interests of “moving on.” Hallelujah.
Report thisBy gerard, December 21, 2009 at 10:44 am Link to this comment
Yeah, well ... again ... scatology doesn’t get it. Just cheapens the string. It’s a free country, of course, but ..... poverty of thought is the worst kind of slavery.
Report thisBy Mary Ann McNeely, December 21, 2009 at 9:20 am Link to this comment
The first thing Obama does in the morning after he rolls heavily out of bed is to lubricate his backside with plenty of Vaseline. The he proceeds, naked, to the Oval Office and bends over and grabs his ankles. He spends 16 hours a day in this postion, being told what to do. This is commonly referred to as “leadership”.
Report thisBy joell, December 20, 2009 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment
@JeffersonSmith
“I did not like the options when I voted in 2008. Mc Cain vs. Obama, these are the only two people in America who are Presidential possibilities? I voted for Obama because he said he would end the war in Iraq,”
why is it so difficult for people to move beyond the mental dem/rep shackles? YOU HAD OTHER OPTIONS: 3rd party or “write in” votes.
“I will not vote for Obama again. I will not vote for an incumbent in the next election. I will look for primary challengers that reflect my views to vote for in 2010, instead of the incumbents.”
the reality is, very few, if any, of the incumbents will lose primary challenges. and if one is successful, all you’re gonna get is criticism of the status quo; and at the end of the day, they will be like John Conyers, Anthony Weiner, Bernie Sanders, etc & sell your interests out. Dennis Kuninich is going to endorse and campaign for Obama in 2012.
So what are you going to do in 2010/12? More likely, you will vote for democrats and nothing will change.
Report thisBy jean Gerard, December 20, 2009 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment
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If “starting over” were to proceed on a state by state basis, what about the
wars we have not stopped? The corporate thefts we haven’t corrected? The
bases we haven’t closed, the nuclear weapons we have left loose in the world?
We’ve taken no steps to help curb global warming. We already owe such a debt
of reconstruction and reconciliation and pollution clean-up that to even think
of walkng away and withdrawing to a state or two here and there seems like
shirking some huge duties.
Surely everyone wishes we could cut the job down to a more manageable size,
Report thisand working locally is vital. But walking out on the big crimes? I doubt it
would be possible to build anything good within such a rotten superstructure.
I might be wrong, however.
By scotttpot, December 20, 2009 at 11:27 am Link to this comment
President Obama*s complicity in maintaining the status quo in the financial
Report thissystem and the endless war industry and his delusional “war on terror ’ shows
we have a one party system in reality. Democrats being the more articulate,
sensitive side to a nation controlled by Christian/Jewish zealots , corporations,
television media, the military,and fear.Science is a left/right issue only in America.
The only hope for real progressives is to take over a state or states politcally,
environmentally, socially, and legally.Take over California,Oregon,Washington.
Create a sustainable ,humane,progressive block of states and lead America .
By Thong-girl, December 20, 2009 at 9:14 am Link to this comment
Since I didn’t vote for BO, I had no allusions about what he said, and what he meant. The tools of politicians today demand a public honed on the practices of the mass media manipulators.
Report thisBy ardee, December 20, 2009 at 7:24 am Link to this comment
so far undeserving of capitalization I fear,‘big b’ says:
Here is a woman who did not even have the guts to publicly admonish her sleazy hubby’s behavior. A person who is willing to sell their self respect for a potential political future should not be trusted with your vote.
That you do not know what was said in private between the two is obvious. That some might think her refusal to air their dirty linen in public a rather brave stance is overlooked in your zealous effort to denigrate the woman rather than comment upon the politician. That seems a bit more than a bit buffoonish if not pretty typical of far right wing politics.
The “dick sucking ” part and the alliance with the jackass from Montana both point to the worthlessness of this effort. But thanks for trying, albeit in such a limited and shallow capacity.
disclaimer:
Report thisThe above should not be taken as a defense of the politics of Hillary Rodham Clinton only of my rejection of such childish commentary.
By dihey, December 20, 2009 at 6:20 am Link to this comment
It was President G. W. Bush and not Mr. Obama who “ended the war in Iraq” although Bush was forced by the deadline of 31 December 2008 to accept the Iraq SOFA agreement lest the UN would declare our presence in Iraq illegal.
Senator Obama did nothing to “end the war in Iraq”; in fact by voting funds for that war he helped continue it.
Report thisBy G.Anderson, December 19, 2009 at 10:20 pm Link to this comment
In case you haven’t realized it by now, president Obama is a fraud.
He is nothing more than the hand picked candidate of the plutocracy, he will continue what Bush began.
Each time you see him making a speach, you will realize your about to be screwed yet again.
Report thisBy JeffersonSmith, December 19, 2009 at 6:52 pm Link to this comment
Nausea,is the reaction I have to this constant “hyping” of the American political process. When did we become “consumers of politics” voting along “brand” lines, as if, candidates were packges of laundry detergent, candy, or frozen dinners. This constant lament that politicians don’t do what we want is only possible because we as an electorate do not hold them accountable. I will not vote for Obama again. I will not vote for an incumbent in the next election. I will look for primary challengers that reflect my views to vote for in 2010, instead of the incumbents.
It is time to start voting our interests and not for or against politicians because of their “brand”, and vote them out if they do not serve us as they said they would during the election.
I did not like the options when I voted in 2008. Mc Cain vs. Obama, these are the only two people in America who are Presidential possibilities? I voted for Obama because he said he would end the war in Iraq, address the financial and economic crisis and work to bring effective governance to America.
I assumed he knew, being a professional politician, how dificult keeping those promises would be, apparently not… Was there a plan, for actually doing something besides promulgating the status quo while trying to give the appearance of “change we can believe in”, another marvelous bumper sticker slogan to go along with the “Hope” logo.
Until Americans are employed at good paying jobs, at peace, with health care (not insurance policies), and living in a country with good schools, infrastructure and a clean environment, or at least making significant, demonstrable progress towards these ends, I am not voting for an incumbent and I hope you won’t either…
Report thisBy :Dennis, December 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm Link to this comment
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Only a week into his Presidency I had an exchange with a writer from Counterpunch. He wrote me then that Obama was the biggest fraud in American history. Can’t argue that.
Report thisBy Big Jess, December 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm Link to this comment
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David, David, David—
You misunderstand.
Campaign SPEECHES are made to the voters.
Campaign PROMISES are made to the big donor corporate fat cats.
Report thisBy montanawildhack, December 19, 2009 at 4:12 am Link to this comment
Big B,
I believe you did a superb job summing up Hillary Clinton’s character…. And thank you for not calling her an evil bitch…. I so don’t like it when people use that kind of language on this post…
Report thisBy Virginia777, December 18, 2009 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment
and you are so right “Some of them have no confidence that they can do anything”
there is A Lot we can do! stop with the complaining and get to work!
Report thisBy Virginia777, December 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
you are so right, Jean Gerard “The prospects are exciting. The challenge is thrilling. The need is acute”
Yes!!
Report thisBy Big B, December 18, 2009 at 6:19 pm Link to this comment
While I could have told you that prez Barry was going to be a sellout, I still do not understand these mindless Hillary supporters that still want to put on the blinders and suck her dick.
Here is a woman who did not even have the guts to publicly admonish her sleazy hubby’s behavior. A person who is willing to sell their self respect for a potential political future should not be trusted with your vote.
But then again, how many of our politicos are cut from the same cloth? Maybe that’s our problem.
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment
The signs were all there for anyone to see; the Obots chose not to see—and look where we are now, with a liar and incompetent person as our president.
An excerpt from: http://tinyurl.com/yj4dj5l
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Report thisDuring the primaries,Obama’s selling out promises were rampant. He promised to use public financing if he was the nominee then reneged as soon as became the nominee. He promised to filibuster and vote against the FISA bill if it gave telecoms retroactive immunity then reneged, didn’t filibuster and voted for it. And lied, until he couldn’t lie any longer about his relationship with Jeremiah Wright and on sending on his economic advisors to the Canadian embassy to tell them to ignore everything he was saying publicly about NAFTA.
This is the person that liberals and Democrats who supported him are now surprised has sold them out when it was apparent that Obama was probably the most underhanded politician since Richard Nixon. The difference between the two is that Nixon used deceit to get even. Obama used it to get ahead.
By jean Gerard, December 18, 2009 at 5:41 pm Link to this comment
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There are tens of thousands of people in this country who, through recent
experiences with “health care” and “another surge in Afghanistan”, and the
fickle behavior of Wall Street manipulators, have seen the eyes of the snake of
corporate manipulation of government.
These people don’t like what they now know. Neither do they know what they
can do about it. Some of them have no confidence that they can do anything.
Others are afraid to do something, or don’t have time, or .... But they, and only
they, can make the changes Eisenhower saw would be necessary.
It’s easy to complain. It’s easy to write about “revolution” without taking
responsibility for the fact that it is usually unnecessarily painful, destructive
and creates huge problems of its own. It’s easy to blame, and escape from
taking personal responsibility.
But the facts are that never for many years have so many ordinary people
understood or sensed that money has far too much power in our government,
that politicians are bought almost by a necessity that is created by the present
electoral and administrative process, and that the democracy of our country is
sick and dying.
They are ready to learn, to get together, to talk, to organize, to take
responsible actions and make changes that will free up our best instincts and
save our country from ruin. They can do it, and probably only they will do it.
Can we make room for each other to work together? Can we create a
cooperative system for healthy power-sharing? .
There are some reliable media. There are some reliable organizations. There
are some people whose knowledge and experience can provide leadership.
The prospects are exciting. The challenge is thrilling. The need is acute.
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment
“I try to avoid hyperbole, but I think Obama is possibly the most dangerous and destructive president we have ever had.” — Nat Hentoff
http://tinyurl.com/y9mwkjb
Report thisBy BelizeanMike, December 18, 2009 at 3:24 pm Link to this comment
Barak Obama would do well to remember the trashing John Kerry endured for allegedly being too much of a ‘flip flopper’.
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment
Yeah sure, Obama is winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan . . .
— excerpt from: http://tinyurl.com/yllecdw
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... the Obama administration has picked up the Bush-era war privatization baton and sprinted with it. Overall, contractors now comprise a whopping 69% of the Department of Defense’s total workforce, “the highest ratio of contractors to military personnel in US history.” That’s not in one war zone—that’s the Pentagon in its entirety.
In Afghanistan, the Obama administration blows the Bush administration out of the privatized water. According to a memo [PDF] released by Sen. Claire McCaskill’s staff, “From June 2009 to September 2009, there was a 40% increase in Defense Department contractors in Afghanistan. During the same period, the number of armed private security contractors working for the Defense Department in Afghanistan doubled, increasing from approximately 5,000 to more than 10,000.”
At present, there are 104,000 Department of Defense contractors in Afghanistan. According to a report this week from the Congressional Research Service, as a result of the coming surge of 30,000 troops in Afghanistan, there may be up to 56,000 additional contractors deployed. But here is another group of contractors that often goes unmentioned: 3,600 State Department contractors and 14,000 USAID contractors. That means that the current total US force in Afghanistan is approximately 189,000 personnel (68,000 US troops and 121,000 contractors). And remember, that’s right now. And that, according to McCaskill, is a conservative estimate. A year from now, we will likely see more than 220,000 US-funded personnel on the ground in Afghanistan.
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Yeah, Geez Jan, there’ll be no more killing of “countless civilians and soldiers for no good purpose” with Obama in charge <sarcasm>.
Report thisBy Geez Jan, December 18, 2009 at 3:14 pm Link to this comment
starfish, show me where I said I prefer to be lied to.
And according to you, “She said she would start at once removing brigades every month, and then see how events shaped up. That, at least, was honest.”
How do you know she was honest? How do you know she wouldn’t have broken as many promises as Obama? Do you have special powers?
By the way, since you’re not paying attention, you should go reread what I wrote about Obama.
Oh, well, Clinton lost. You’ll have your chance to pledge your blind and mindless allegiance to her again soon enough. At least you have that to look forward to.
Report thisBy felicity, December 18, 2009 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
Well, I haven’t forgotten WWII. A prescription drug which costs $400 in the US cost $40 in Germany - same drug, same manufacturer, same dosages. (Geez, only 65 years ago we were carpet bombing that country and now we’re (I guess) subsidizing their drug habit?)
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment
Geez Jan:
It is you who is having reading comprehension problems.
Here is what I wrote:
“Hillary never said she wouldn’t remove the troops; she said she doubted anyone could make such a pledge (as Obama had) that far away in time. She said she would start at once removing brigades every month, and then see how events shaped up. That, at least, was honest. Obama was dishonest and won votes on Super Tuesday because he was willing to be dishonest.”
P.S. Despite what Obama said to get votes, the TROOPS ARE STILL THERE, you dummy.
You prefer people to lie to you; I don’t.
I think it’s nap time for you.
Report thisBy Geez Jan, December 18, 2009 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
starfish, you need to learn some reading comprehension.
We should think Clinton “decent” because she was honest about intending to keep us in an illegal and pointless war? She is “decent” for being honest about keeping us in a war that kills countless civilians and soldiers for no good purpose? You have a warped sense of “decency.”
With people like you, who needs Republicans?
Report thisBy insultant, December 18, 2009 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment
I really got a kick out of this part:
Disenchanted activists, said the White House, “need to take off [their] pajamas, get dressed and realize that governing a closely divided country is complicated.”
As Gandhi’s famous quote portends: “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” one can assume by the White House statement that they are on a path to being routed by a bunch of people in their pajamas. Just an interesting thought.
Report thisBy Anarcissie, December 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment
It has been my impression that Mr. O has done pretty much as he said he would do. The genius of his campaign was to convince the progs that he didn’t mean what he said but what they wanted him to be saying. I think one must appreciate the Machiavellian skill and chutzpah with which this game was carried out. Although given the eager credulity of those who were taken in, I suppose it wasn’t all that difficult.
Progs, although probably not as numerous as right-wing religious fanatics, could form a significant political force in the country, but they would have to adopt a new strategic philosophy, something like “Don’t get mad, get even.” I don’t see any sign of that yet, however.
Report thisBy Charles, December 18, 2009 at 12:02 pm Link to this comment
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I might suggest that these oh so superior legends in their own mind have dressed themselves in drag remnants of Mardi Gras and it is time for them to find the appropriate attire of their circus act, as I await their wardrobe change and weigh the reality of the political divide that impedes the changes I voted for, I believe I will go listen intently to those INDEPENDENT candidates speech across the street.
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 11:31 am Link to this comment
Geez Jan:
Hillary didn’t lie about her views; Obama did.
So I guess we have to assume you would rather be lied to than told the truth.
Hillary never said she wouldn’t remove the troops; she said she doubted anyone could make such a pledge (as Obama had) that far away in time. She said she would start at once removing brigades every month, and then see how events shaped up. That, at least, was honest.
Obama was dishonest and won votes on Super Tuesday because he was willing to be dishonest.
Yes, I think it is decent when people do not lie to me.
I guess you prefer liars to straight talkers.
Report thisBy jean Gerard, December 18, 2009 at 11:12 am Link to this comment
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Yes, Mr. Sirota, but ....
The main reason Presidents can’t live up to campaign promises is that
corporate financial pressures having to do with maintaining their status-quo
profits have the power to “buy out” political promises, i.e. if you decrease our
“political buying power “(don’t do what we want), we will decrease your
political capital (campaign finances, pay-offs, “perks"ability to get things done,
etc.) In brief, “money talks”—especially in politics, although everywhere else
as well.
Of course it “insults voters”—and it demeans the character of the politicians
also—but it won’t change until and unless it is recognized and eliminated by
reforming how election campaigns are supported and operated and how
legislation is developed and passed. Behind-the-scenes “pay-offs” by
corporations (in the form of contributions and threats to legislators) killed the
best of the health care bill before it was ever born.
Campaign promises are a rough indication of what candidates would like to do,
Report thisnot what they can do after election. That’s why it is so sad that Obama has to
take so much personal flack from people who didn’t recognize the facts
beforehand. It’s probably fair to say that the people are quite a bit better than
the system.
By MG, December 18, 2009 at 9:03 am Link to this comment
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Now here’s a subject where third party candidates can compete. Because it’s not with their money that they can reach millions of confused voters. Ralph Nader actually HAS influenced national legislation on behalf of regular Americans, for example. What had Obama done before he was elected? Nada. One problem with so-called third party candidates is that “third party” sounds like “third wheel”, like someone without a date tagging along. The fact is most third party candidates have more credibility than their over-financed competitors from the two cul-de-sacs of the corporate party. Bill Clinton did the same thing Obama did to get elected, 18 years ago. The 18-25 year-olds who voted in brand-Obama don’t remember that. But they do remember a brand they like: hey, nice logo.
Report thisBy schwerblech, December 18, 2009 at 8:15 am Link to this comment
The article assumes that we have a “republican democracy”. More accurately, it is
Report thisan oligarchy - ruled by pharma, oil, banks, military / industry (remember Ike’s
warning??) agribusiness - the list goes on. The population of this country is kept
and tended as livestock to be milked and bilked by these and we happily go along
with the charade. We still have our bread and circuses.
By Geez Jan, December 18, 2009 at 8:04 am Link to this comment
starfish, I don’t know if I’d call it “decency” to keep troops in an illegal and pointless war just because you won’t lie about it…
During the campaign, Clinton was at least as scary, if not more so, than Obama. I guess Clinton has the “decency” to be up front about how much she loves war and threatening other countries. No thanks.
Report thisBy cacatua, December 18, 2009 at 8:01 am Link to this comment
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Here in Iowa during the primary I tried until I was blue in the face to point out the obvious about Obama, like the only way he could go to Washington and make things “change” would be if he were going as a king, with all the power of a king.
But you know what happened in the caucuses? They were flooded with young people who had never been involved before. Some were only 17, but would be 18 by election day. They all had stars in their eyes. There were older people who should have known better, but there was also this feeling in the air that people wanted to make history by electing an African-American president. Put those two ingredients together with the technology of the internet and cell-phone social networking, and that is how Obama got elected.
Me, I volunteered for Joe Biden in Iowa. We weren’t even going to vote after the way the primary turned out, but then Joe got chosen for VP, so we became uncomfortable members of the Obama camp. I see the arguments I used in the primary against Obama fulfilling themselves now unfortunately.
Report thisBy starfish, December 18, 2009 at 6:36 am Link to this comment
David Sirota,
You are either (1) dishonest, or (2) stupid.
During the campaign, while you were buying into the Obama “magic,” many of us were trying to inform the voting public regarding the REALITY of Obama’s political (and life) record. You CHOSE to ignore that reality.
You also routinely bashed Hillary for (1) not being as willing as Obama was to set a date certain for taking our troops out of Iraq, and (2) not promising to make the sun rise in the west and set in the east (as Obama did).
Just in time to persuade Super Tuesday primary voters to vote for him, Obama said at the Jan. 15, 2008 Democratic debate: “I have put forward a plan that will get our troops out [of Iraq] BY THE END OF 2009.” http://tinyurl.com/67nhtg” Obama promised the moon and delivered baloney. Obama said he would have the troops OUT of Iraq within ELEVEN months of taking office. Do you see our troops evacuating Iraq? No, and neither do I. Hillary had more sense (and decency) than to lie and say she had a plan to get the troops out of Iraq by the end of 2009. So, Obama (thanks to gullible voters) won the primaries he needed to win on Super Tuesday, the voters got duped, you kept your job, and the American people got scre__d.
Hillary had spent eight years in the White House and knew what the real problems were and what the real possibilities for action and reform were. Instead of giving Hillary credit for that awareness, you joined the camp of those ridiculing her assertion that the White House experience had given her any real understanding of what a president could and should do.
David Sirota, you are one of the many media people who foisted this arrogant jerk (Barack Obama) on this nation, and it’s time—now—for you to apologize.
Report thisBy knobcreekfarmer, December 18, 2009 at 6:10 am Link to this comment
They say, “Leave it to the markets.” And, “The markets will provide the solutions.”
That is unless you’re a pharmaceutical corporation in America. Then you have
Report thisprivate meetings with the President and lawmakers to ensure your “market” is not
unfairly undercut by those pesky Canadian and European pill pushers. Then, you
see, pharmaceutical corporations in America “just say no to drugs [that ‘they’
don’t profit from].”
By Cain is Able, December 18, 2009 at 5:56 am Link to this comment
This is why no one should look to campaign promises s a reason to vote for anyone, regardless of your political leanings. Politicians will say anything to get elected. I has always been that way and it will continue.
You should elect someone to office based on there character and past action. Obama has never been in a position to make tough choices in his career so no one could possible judge how he would govern. But you shouldn’t act hurt. When was the last time any politician did what he promised to do.
Report thisBy Geez Jan, December 18, 2009 at 5:30 am Link to this comment
Obama was sold like any other product. The advertising lies about the product to its buyers. The buyer is a willing participant in the scam: he wants to believe.
Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign won awards from the Cannes Lions International Advertising Awards, Advertising Age, and the Association of National Advertisers. I’m sure there’s others I don’t know about. But that should tell you something.
You know how corporations tell you they love you and want to make your life better? And instead they just want your money in exchange for the crappiest product they can get away with? That’s Obama.
What bothers me the most are all the so-called progressives who gave me a hard time for voting for Nader (and not just in 2008) who are now twisting themselves into knots trying to come up with theories about why Obama is betraying them. Or worse, getting angry at Obama for it. They wanted to be chumped, and Obama obliged them. They have no one to blame but themselves.
For chrissakes, wasn’t anyone paying any attention to who Obama had on his staff and coterie of advisers during the campaign? Rubin? Summers? Did you think they were there to stuff envelopes?
I’m really getting sick and tired of the whining, especially since I bet these same people will vote for Obama again in 2012 for the same lousy reason: he’s not a Republican. Pathetic.
Report thisBy montanawildhack, December 18, 2009 at 5:00 am Link to this comment
McCain and Palin would have been so much more better in the White House…. I mean if politics is only about lies and entertainment why not Go For the Gold…...
Can you imagine how much more exciting life would be knowing that Palin was a heartbeat away from the Presidentcy???? You wouldn’t have time to worry about your shitty job, lack of health care and perpetual war…..
Man it would have been Glorious…....
Report thisBy KISS, December 18, 2009 at 4:59 am Link to this comment
Look David, Obama is a one-time loser. His lies will defeat any re-election plans he might have and as compensation the fat cats of Pharma, Wall street, Military and the auto industry will make him a very wealthy man.
Report thisHe will now have the means to join the Have Society and not worry about the Have Not Society. Like the Clinton’s the Obama will live in luxury for the rest of their lives.
With our present political system, only a revolution will make a significant change.
By ardee, December 18, 2009 at 2:57 am Link to this comment
“The train won’t stop going—
No way to slow down.”
Thank you Jethro Tull for this insightful lyric…..
Report thisBy Caro, December 18, 2009 at 2:36 am Link to this comment
Some of us didn’t rely on promises, but on history.
Which was uniquely slight in Obama’s case. No one
wanted to hear how much of a disappointment he became
as my senator.
But he was sold as a brand, and very skillfully, too.
Fooled a lot of people.
If he fooled you David, and that’s why you became so
crazed about him that you passed on vicious lies
about Hillary and her supporters, why haven’t you
apologized for being punked?
Carolyn Kay
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By EJH, December 17, 2009 at 10:54 pm Link to this comment
“In America, we get to choose presidents only every
four years, meaning we must rely on campaign promises
as metrics for electoral choices. But if the entire
idea of the campaign promise becomes an assumed joke,
then we have zero metrics by which to elect leaders.”
Actually, another metric exists. Voters can take
Report thistheir heads out of their rear ends and face the fact
that the two main parties are nearly identical. If
America’s so-called “liberals” would show some
backbone and vote for liberal candidates (Nader, for
example) instead of conservatives in liberal clothing
like Obama and most other Democrats, the world might
be a better place. http://theunpeople.blogspot.com/