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 The Brief on Rep. WeinerPosted on Jun 2, 2011Rep. Anthony Weiner would be having a much better week if he could establish, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he wears either old-fashioned boxer shorts or classic tighty-whiteys. In politics, it’s pretty much an immutable rule that if they’re talking about your underwear, you have a problem. Weiner, a liberal Democrat who represents parts of Brooklyn and Queens, surely knows this. But he doesn’t seem to grasp the other rule about how you should at least try to keep a problem from becoming a crisis. Let me interject that I’m going to try to get through this column with as few juvenile double-entendres as possible. There will be no jokes, for example, about the congressman’s last name. So here’s what happened: Late last week, the conservative website BigGovernment reported that someone using Weiner’s account on the social network Twitter had sent a message consisting of a picture of a man’s, shall we say, groin area. The angle from which the photo was taken suggests it is a self-portrait. The man is wearing a pair of those hybrid boxer briefs. The picture was addressed to a 21-year-old female student from the Seattle area who is one of Weiner’s more than 54,000 “followers” on Twitter. Days later, the woman wrote in the New York Daily News that she had never even met Weiner, much less had any “inappropriate exchanges” with him. But this clarifying information came far too late to save Weiner from himself, and now the issue has become one of credibility. Advertisement The long holiday weekend gave Weiner a bit of a break, but also gave the story—and his not-quite-ironclad denial—time to ferment. When everybody came back to work, reporters began asking simple follow-up questions, such as, “So that’s somebody else’s crotch, right?” This might have been a one-day story, a minor episode—the picture, while suggestive, doesn’t depict anything you wouldn’t see on a beach where men wear Speedos. But Weiner’s shifting, complicated, finely parsed explanations make this a bigger deal. He insisted someone else had sent the photo. But when asked if he had contacted authorities to launch an investigation into the hacking of his Twitter account, Weiner said that he had not. The police had more important things to worry about, he said, so he was conducting his own investigation with the help of a private firm. Right. So there’s no public interest in tracking down someone who can hack into the private Internet accounts of sitting members of Congress? Many of whom want an FBI investigation every time someone cuts them off in traffic? And the I’m-doing-my-own-investigation maneuver is never a good sign. Weiner had a testy exchange with Capitol Hill reporters in which he finally declared, “I’m not going to talk about this anymore.” Predictably, that vow of silence lasted mere hours. When NBC’s Luke Russert asked who was in that picture, Weiner responded “I can’t say with certitude” that it was somebody else. He told Rachel Maddow that “stuff gets manipulated ... maybe it started out being a photograph of mine” that was “taken out of context.” He told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, “I don’t know what photographs are out there in the world of me. I don’t know what things have been manipulated and doctored.” In my case, I’d have certitude: I’ve never taken a beefcake picture of my crotch. But if I had taken such a picture, I think I’d recognize it—and I’m quite sure I’d never mistake some other guy’s nether regions for my own. Another immutable rule, this one about how high-riding politicians are most frequently brought down: It’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up. In Weiner’s case, there isn’t even a crime—he doesn’t think so, at least. Yet his clumsy attempts at telling half-truths and issuing non-denial denials have raised non-trivial questions about veracity, and thus integrity. Hypothetically, if I were the kind of guy to take self-portraits of this kind, I’d be embarrassed—mortified—to have the whole world know about it. Which brings me to my final rule: Politicians shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near social networking, no matter what kind of underwear they prefer. Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.  TAGS:
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By Inherit The Wind, June 15, 2011 at 7:21 am Link to this comment
Couselor.
Report thisThe two parties you mentioned feed off each other using racist code words + gibberish.
By Counselor, June 13, 2011 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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Lew-cifer
Further criticism of you is not necessary, you have revealed yourself nicely, or not so nicely, anyway, this thread is dead.
Speaking of dead, you omitted mentioning Vonnegut’s, “Dead Eye Dick,” my favorite from Vonnegut. “Slaughterhouse-Five” is Vonnegut’s most famous work, and it is primarily concerned with his reminiscences regarding being a prisoner of war in Dresden. The book is most concerned with humanitarian issues, human folly etc. As stated earlier; Vonnegut’s work is most concerned with humanitarian issues, and yes, his work is a plea for humanitarian thinking; in other words, an endeavor to combat human failings.
Bertrand Russell was a dog, but not just a dog, a mad dog. Russell was a philanderer, but not just a philanderer, an intellectual advocate of philandering. Russell was a fellow traveler with the likes of Alice B. Toklas and Semilina Pilchard, offshoots of the “Lost Generation.” Speaking of dogs, being dead, and eyes, Bertrand Russell was plagued with that “yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog’s eye.” “Coo Coo Ca Choo,”! Walruses eat a lot of little fish, like you.
I wish you well, peace be upon you.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 13, 2011 at 7:37 am Link to this comment
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Inherit The Wind
Sorry about the misunderstanding. I searched this thread to make sure that I had not missed the comments of someone who has given himself to the title of Doctor, and I found no one. If you’re referring to Dr.behelthi [sic] then I understand but I’m puzzled as to why you would mention him here or make the Dr. reference at all. I assumed you were referring to me and my bogus Counselor nom de plume.
Drbehelthi [sic] appears to be a raving anti-Semite and a conspiratorial lunatic, but I’m sure he would say he doesn’t hate Jews, only Corporate Jews, Jews in government, and Jews who support the nation of Israel. I think of Dr.behelthi [sic] as a well meaning lunatic who is not content with the normal run of the mill conspiracy theories, he invents his own. He is, to me, much like Lew-cifer except that Lew-cifer seems to be somewhat more in control of his faculties and lacks any semblance of well meaning.
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 12, 2011 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
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re Human failings are human failings, regardless of their context, or their source, but human failings should not be considered acceptable or considered as being the norm, regardless of how prevalent they may be.
Human failings are the norm, always will be, and one ignores them to one’s own detriment. Have you no concept of Christianity’s flawed humans needing to be ‘born again’? Believing the world a paradise doesn’t make it so; as Russell so eloquently pointed out many years ago: “If 50 million people say a foolish thing; it is still a foolish thing.”
One continual hornswoggling of mankind is that many perceived ‘human failures’—especially from the perspective of anointed visionaries—aren’t human failures but contrarily, essential defense mechanisms acquired over millennia of evolutionary development that help one, and those of his kind, to exercise caution, and recognize and deal with threats, both natural and manmade, that would do him in.
My ending comment with respect to Anthony Weiner and his infatuation with his weenie is borrowed from another one of my favored individuals, H.L. Mencken…
”Suppose two-thirds of the members of the national House of Representatives were dumped into the Washington garbage incinerator tomorrow, what would we lose to offset our gain of their salaries and the salaries of their parasites?”—“Prejudices Fourth Series”
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 12, 2011 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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@ Counselor, June 10 at 12:08 pm
You are beguiled but it isn’t because of me. I’ve cited cases that prove your side is no different from those at whom you point your accusing finger. It’s a classic case of people living in glass houses and throwing stones. Take out everything you deem questionable and partisan and there is still an abundance of undisputable material remaining.
Vonnegut is an interesting character. I started with “Man Without a Country” then read one of his works that was rather ill-received by Vonnegut fans “Hocus Pocus.” The book left me drained. I thought it a fantastic work. Because of “Hocus Pocus” I decided to read “Sirens of Titans” which I had on the shelf for years but never seemed able to get around to reading. I forced myself to finish it and was left wondering how Vonnegut was ever published. Reading comments from Vonnegut fans one is left with the impression that—at least among his fans—“Sirens” is one of his best works. Now I wonder if I’ll ever get around to reading the other three books I have by him. De gustibus non est disputandum
As for your opinion of Russell it’s just that; your opinion. Russell is by far—IMO—one of the greatest intellectuals to have ever lived. And the fact that he didn’t buy into the intellectual rubbish espoused by other so-called intellectuals and philosophers is one reason Russell is not as popular as he should be (Jn 15:19).
Sometimes Randy Newman’s “Political Science” should be understood as Gospel rather than satirical criticism. I have no problem understanding why Russell would have taken a stand in nuking the Soviet Union as a preventative measure to save the world. I am of the same opinion with respect to much of civilization today. Especially that part of civilization which the so-called Left in the West has embraced as its latest fav minority—albeit anything but a minority—and who is, apparently,—as with all of the Enlightened’s favored “oppressed of superior virtue”— unable to chew gum and walk simultaneously, thus, requiring the Left’s preferential nurturing, protections, and treatment. The West’s Left is in bed with a viper and I regret that I shall not live long enough to see it reap its merited götterdämmerung. The horror, the horror!
re idealism is the highest form of pragmatism.
Give it a rest! Do you own a dictionary? This is sine qua non in Leftist obscurantism. Twist the meanings of words until they mean absolutely nothing and yet everything. Quackery!
re big fish eat little fish
Is truth! And it has been that way ab incunabulis of the primordial ooze. There is nothing scornful or bitterly mocking about that comment.
re it should be obvious to you that I am not an adherent to Democratic doctrine, or even left-wing doctrine…
Au contraire! My observation is quite the opposite. Your commentary is one of a Leftist myrmidon in the sense of “a faithful follower who carries out orders without question.” Judging from your comments you differ only on moral issues, probably, I suspect, for reasons of mythological beliefs.
As much as I’d really enjoy conversing with you on Russell, Vonnegut, etc. it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread which is the Congressman in question and his antics. As events have proven out my belief that he was guilty and lying in order to save his arse was correct. It was a no brainer. Any Congressman—especially a big-spender of other people’s money Lefty—who cites expense as the chief reason not to have an investigation into a possible breach of security in this time of supposed high threats to national security is obviously attempting to cover his arse.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 11, 2011 at 10:39 am Link to this comment
Counselor: Let me assure you that “Dr. Quack” does not refer to you. You don’t use “Dr” in your handle.
ITW.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm Link to this comment
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Lew-cifer
I must say that I have underestimated you. I have never doubted your intelligence, but I am very impressed with your ability to cite demagoguery, and your tenacity, but I will not be beguiled. In some ways you remind me of Kurt Vonnegut, who I admire very much. Vonnegut is an avowed atheist, and many consider him to be a cynic, but I do not. Underlying Vonnegut’s writing is a plea for rational thought, and an advocacy of humanitarian thinking. Vonnegut in my opinion represents the very best of humanism. Bertrand Russell on the other hand is the quintessential cynic, and the perfect example of an individual who became deranged by his perversity. In his youth Russell was an idealistic pacifist, but later in life he advocated nuking the Soviet Union as a means of preserving the world from destruction.
Let me offer my opinion regarding pragmatism, idealism is the highest form of pragmatism. I am not deluded. I will not be seeing myself in Bertrand Russell’s essays, I will be seeing you. Simplistic comments about big fish and little fish serves nothing but cynicism. However, it is a fact of reality that big fish do eat little fish, and I will relish a fish like metaphorical devouring of you.
An ideologue is an adherent to doctrine, it should be obvious to you that I am not an adherent to Democratic doctrine, or even left-wing doctrine, such an assertion by you may serve your dialectic, but it is devoid of substance, and an asserted falsehood.
Lesson, what lesson? Knowing that a large percentageof Democratic leaders are corporatists, American exceptionalists, militarists, etc. is a lesson I learned, oh say, fifty or sixty years ago. You’re a little late with your lesson. Reciting Democratic failings serves your dialectic of cynicism in this discussion, but nothing else.
Gump’s mother was very wise indeed, I think that the point of the movie, you have mentioned, is that perceived stupidity may not be stupid at all. I believe that Gump, with his challenged but superior perceptions would consider you to be errant in your beliefs, and he would most certainly be puzzled regarding your possession of a lethal box of chocolates.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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Johnson’s reported quotation regarding “…niggers voting Democratic for 200 years,” was reported most vociferously by Ann Coulter, and the source was Ronald Kessler who wrote his book “Inside the Whitehouse” in 1985. Kessler is currently associated with “Newsmax” an extreme right-wing publication and website. According to Kessler himself, the supposed comment was hearsay and based on the assertions of obscure sources unidentified. However, it would not surprise me if the comment was factual. Southern culture at that time used the word nigger flagrantly. If you’re asserting that the Left’s only advocacy of Civil Rights was political, then you’re only displaying your cynicism once again. Johnson’s well documented quotation regarding politics in the South was that the Civil Rights legislation he signed would lose the South for Democrats for a generation. Conservative Democrats from the South, who soon became Republicans, along with the likes of Barry Goldwater and other Republicans obstructed Civil Rights legislation, any other interpretation of the events surrounding Civil Rights legislation is revisionist history, and would have Gump scratching his head in consternation. Stupid is as stupid thinks.
The “Jew Bastard” quotation comes from Jerry Oppenheimer:
“Jerry Oppenheimer is an author who has written several unauthorized biographies of public figures including Hillary and Bill Clinton, Anna Wintour, Rock Hudson, Martha Stewart, Barbara Walters, Ethel Kennedy and Jerry Seinfeld. the Hilton family.”
Did Hillary actually make this comment? Again it would not surprise me; I’m no fan of Hillary Clinton, or Bill Clinton. Let me suggest that you be more critical of what you read, and not let you’re cynicism over-shadow you’re common sense. Did you know that Mossad brought down the Twin Towers, and that Barack Obama is a C.I.A. Manchurian Candidate?
Clearly, political conflict brings out passionate and insensitive comments from some. “Hymie Town” is a racist comment, just as “Mocha Savior” is a racist comment. If you’re saying that we are all prone to racism and bigotry, then I do not disagree, but if you’re saying that racial comments are acceptable then I do disagree. Some people have become enlightened regarding racial issues, and others have not, clearly you are one of those who have not.
Human failings are human failings, regardless of their context, or their source, but human failings should not be considered acceptable or considered as being the norm, regardless of how prevalent they may be. You suggest that human failings are unavoidable, and there is a great body of evidence that verifies that assertion, but I assert that human failings are to be avoided and that certain psychological types are more accepting of human failings, in spite of their claims to the contrary. The height of hypocrisy is to condemn other’s human failings, while being acceptant of our own human failings. I also believe that this kind of hypocrisy is the essence of reprobation. Human failings that appear to serve a greater good, do not serve the good in any way, they only serve to validate human failings. You and I will be outraged by atrocities committed against us, but we will not be moral unless we are outraged by atrocities committed against others. Saying that those atrocities are unavoidable and only human nature, serves to validate atrocities. You, in essence, hold yourself aloof, and condemn mankind in its totality, while not recognizing the ultimate human failing, that being a cynicism about combating human failings.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 10, 2011 at 8:10 am Link to this comment
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Inherit The Wind
A counselor might be a Doctor, but many are not. In my case I’m not a Doctor; nor am I a licensed counselor. I am, you might say, a quack, or a fake counselor, but I do consider myself an accomplished laymen in several fields in which I have no official credentials. The arrogance of this statement does not escape me.
My philosophy of life is that in the realm of the spiritual, I believe in nothing, but I believe in something. Such believing will quite likely be considered double talk or meaningless gibberish to many, but I, in my humility, believe that this comment about belief is very profound.
Regarding the moral and the immoral; we human beings appear to be singular in our ability to rationalize. This perception of singular ability might be considered human arrogance, but it appears to be a truth according to our awareness level. We human beings have the ability to rationalize away our instincts. A comprehension of instinct varies from Pavlovian concepts, to psychic interpretations.
I’m inclined to believe that innocent children, uncontaminated by human rationalizations, have basic instincts, which creates a conflict between spiritual and carnal proclivities. I’ll ask rhetorically, if ones first sexual experience, even under the most accepted of circumstances, is not fraught with an instinctual psychic angst.
Regarding Democrats and sexual politics, the evidence is clear, and I continue to believe that the Left’s policies regarding sexual issues have been a detriment to political success, and that these policies have served the interests of a greater evil. The Right’s hypocrisy regarding sexual issues is also evident. Politicians from the Right have been the greatest violators of sexual mores in recent years, and these violations of sexual mores have been accompanied by despicable hypocrisy.
Most believe that sexual indiscretions are human failings, but why? People point to deviance in cultures and in the animal kingdom as being evidence to support deviance as being natural, but why? Deviant behavior is not natural; it’s a deviation from what’s natural. Behavioral scientists are engaged in finding evidence that deviance is natural, but they have found no definitive evidence. Nature vs. nurture, blah, blah; procreation is natural, as is common sense. Happy, well adjusted, children are raised in a traditional family environment. Those committed to traditional family values are aware that societal values have an impact on their aspirations.
Why bother, who cares, live and let live, personal freedom should be a political and a legal right, and I could not agree more with that contention. However, there is a fine line between advocating behavior and allowing behavioral choices.
Again, why bother, it is my belief that at the core of the entire world’s problems and difficulties is moral decadence, and at the core of moral decadence is sexual immorality, deviance, whatever… I do not believe as some do, that we are naturally evil, I believe that being evil is a deviance.
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 9, 2011 at 11:10 am Link to this comment
@ Inherit The Wind, June 9 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
Ok, you convinced me: You either don’t know or don’t want to say
Why would I be hip to gang lingo I.T.W.? Geez!
I still have no idea who is Dr. Quack. I told you, I’m not up to all this Internet lingo that youngsters use. Now I know how my parents felt. In my day ‘to rap’ meant to sit around drinking wine, smoking a joint, and talking nonsense. Today it means something totally different.
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 9, 2011 at 11:04 am Link to this comment
@ By Counselor, June 8 at 8:12 am:
Regarding lying, the Right consists of inveterate liars; they have to lie in order to survive politically.
I’ve already stated my opinion on lying humanity. But I thought I’d let you see this due to the individual concerned.
“It was at this point that Weiner’s campaign decided to blanket the district with leaflets attacking his opponents. But these were no ordinary campaign attacks: They played the race card, and at a very sensitive time. They were also anonymous.
... Just weeks earlier, the Crown Heights riot—a deadly, days-long affair that brought to the surface long-standing tension between the area’s black and Jewish populations—had played out a few miles away from the 48th District…
... Weiner’s campaign distributed its anonymous leaflets, which linked Cohen—whose voters he was targeting in particular—to Jesse Jackson and David Dinkins, who was then New York’s mayor. It is hard to imagine two more-hated political figures in the 48th District at that moment. Jackson just a few years earlier had called New York “Hymie town,” and it was an article of faith among white voters in Weiner’s part of Brooklyn that Dinkins had protected the black rioters in Crown Heights—and thus endangered the white population—by refusing to order a harsh police crackdown…
...Only after the ballots were counted did he admit that he’d been behind the leaflets, claiming that “We didn’t want the source to be confused with the message…
“The dirty trick that launched Anthony Weiner’s career”
http://www.salon.com/news/new_york_city/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/06/07/anthony_weiner_1991
I’m tired Counselor, ill affect of new meds ... I’ve enjoyed it though.
“I think any form of government, not just Capitalism, is whatever the people who have all our money, drunk or sober, sane or insane, decide to do today.” -Kurt Vonnegut (Hocus Pocus)
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 9, 2011 at 11:03 am Link to this comment
@ By Counselor, June 8 at 8:12 am
they are primarily motivated by racism
“So I’m probably not allowed to say this, but the problem is not, uh, poor white trash, it’s rich white trash.” -Paul Krugman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNW-LBZjeo
Democrat internecine hate:
Jesse Jackson makes crude remarks about CASTRATING Obama on Fox News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQl_6buUggM&feature=related
“We’re giving relief to people that I deal with in my office every day now unfortunately. But because of the longevity of this recession, these are people — and they’re not minorities and they’re not defective and they’re not all the things you’d like to insinuate that these programs are about — these are average, good American people.” –Paul Kanjorski
A Freudian moment?
“light-skinned” African-American president with “no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy… I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” -Joe “Senator Mastercard” Biden
(I guess before Mocha Savior all that existed was a bunch of jive-ass ghetto Negros)
“I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” -LBJ
“This guy, he was catapulted in on hope and change, what we hope the guy is. What the f**k? Everything he’s saying’s on the teleprompter. I’m blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little laundromat in a black community not far from where we lived. I saw it all growing up.” - Rod Blagojevich
“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” - The Most Holy Reverend Al Sharpton
“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee…” Bill “The First Black President” Clinton
“He’s married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn’t want to be black.” Diane Watson (State Senator, CA)
“I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.” -Harry Truman
“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman of any color, he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.” - Geraldine Ferraro
“You f**king Jew Bastard.” -Hillary Clinton (Allegedly said to Bill Clinton’s campaign manager Paul Fray the night Clinton lost the 1974 Arkansas congressional election)
Great Moments in Democrat Racist History - FDR
Report thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X12hmwkVIUI&feature=related
By Lew Ciefer, June 9, 2011 at 11:01 am Link to this comment
@ By Counselor, June 8 at 8:12 am
Tea Party leaders run the gamut of being corporate shills, to being neo-Nazis. Tea Partiers deserve no apology, despite all their denials they are primarily motivated by racism, with a healthy dose of anti-government ignorance thrown in.
1.) Former White House counsel Greg Craig has just signed on as an institutional Sherpa for Goldman Sachs, the iconic financial firm facing fraud charges from the Securities and Exchange Commission.
2.) Former House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt lobbies for Goldman Sachs, Visa and the coal industry.
3.) Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle — Obama’s first choice to head Health and Human Services — is an adviser for a lobbying firm that represents Charles Schwab, Comcast, Lockheed Martin, Verizon and a host of other corporate interests.
4.) Attorney General Eric Holder once lobbied for Global Crossing — sometimes described as the Democratic Enron.
5.) Former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel made eight figures in a little more than two years as the Chicago-based managing director at Wasserstein Perella & Co. between jobs as a senior aide in President Bill Clinton’s White House and as the congressman representing Illinois’s 5th District.
6. The Democrats rode to their majorities in the House and the Senate on a wave of cash Emanuel and New York Sen. Chuck Schumer helped them raise from Wall Street. Earlier this month, a hedge fund manager at the center of the Goldman Sachs fraud case held a fundraiser for Schumer in New York.
7. Obama — a onetime Wall Street favorite who raised nearly $1 million from Goldman Sachs employees for his 2008 campaign — has been blasting away at Republicans…
8.) Why Biden is the “MasterCard Senator”
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/28/ralph_nader_on_the_democrats_corporate
Democrats haunted by corporate ties
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/04/21/us-politico-corpties-idUSTRE63K2W820100421
“You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?—Jesus of Nazareth
There’s much more Counselor.
Now about stupid ... what was it that Gump said?
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 9, 2011 at 10:59 am Link to this comment
@ Counselor, June 9 at 6:31 am
Lew-cifer
You reek of cynicism.
No Counselor I’m not reeking of cynicism but rather truth which you and I.T.W. cannot dispute.
I’ve never claimed to be an intellectual. If I must label myself for you I can only choose pragmatist. Life is not that complicated Counselor –big fish eat little fish—and only
those who REFUSE to see,
walk around as blind as thee.
I’m going to show you just how misinformed and/or deluded you are. I have to do this in several posts because of the amount of material. This material is going to demonstrate that almost all that you stated yesterday is pure balderdash.
You, without doubt, are an ideologue and as Eric Hoffer said in his book “The True Believer” the first thing a ‘true believer’ will do is lie for the cause in which he believes. I recommend that you read that book and the essays “The Superior Virtue of the Oppressed” and “Intellectual Rubbish” by Bertrand Russell. (They’re in the book “Unpopular Essays.”) They will help you see yourself.
And remember I didn’t say any of these things you are about to read. These are quotes from the MSM. SO DON’T BLAME THE MESSENGER!
Hope you enjoy the lesson.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 9, 2011 at 7:46 am Link to this comment
Ok, you convinced me: You either don’t know or don’t want to say:
“18” is a code where 1 is for A, Adolph, 8 is for H, Hitler. If you want to describe Hitler as an “arse hole” I’m OK with that.
“Mocha” is fine when describing coffee or candy, racist when describing a human being especially in disparaging terms.
Dr.Quack? Who here calls himself DR…...?
Report thisBy Counselor, June 9, 2011 at 6:31 am Link to this comment
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Lew-cifer
You reek of cynicism. I’m reminded of the accounts of Roy Cohn’s last days. Your reply is weak, and I’m wondering about the purpose of your over-disclosure? Occasionally, people here at truthdig reveal their age and health status, while at the same time expressing a sense of purpose and a hope for humanity.
The word “hope” has become nothing but a four letter word to many here at truthdig, and clearly you are one of those who ridicule hope. My sincere hope is that you will come to terms with your life and your condition.
What is your purpose? What do you perpetrate? Is your self regard really that high? Do you see yourself as being superior, or is it something else? Perhaps an unresolved psychic angst that only allows for the expression of cynicism.
By my appraisal you are not a dissident intellectual, you are simply a dissident. You are the purveyor of a lie. A lie that is harmful to others, but most harmful to your self.
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 8, 2011 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment
@ Counselor, June 8 at 8:12 am:
re Reprobate:
Okay, I understand where you’re coming from now. I wrote that because I needed to let it be known that I wasn’t the type of individual to meddle in the private lives of others. One can’t be too careful when dealing with ideologues because they get you coming and going. I should have put more forethought into it. Technically, you had me by the family jewels but for one caveat.
Immediately after hitting the ‘Submit it!’ button I realized that I had just made a statement approving adultery which made me a sinner and left me contemplating suicide. I then fell to my knees and begged forgiveness from Jesus and asked Him to wash me clean, which He did. When you made your statement I had long been washed in His blood and as God forgets our sins as far as East is from West I also forgot. No harm, no foul.
re Mocha Savior:
Why not the adjective? Isn’t he Mocha colored? Is there something wrong with being Mocha colored? I’ve been called cracker, cute, an old fart, and lots of other colorful adjectives.
If I said ‘Savior’ many Christians would think I’m referencing Jesus. If I said ‘Messiah’ Jews would think I’m referencing the ‘One still to come’ and Republicans would think I’m talking about G.W. Bush. When I say ‘Mocha Savior’ it is immediately understood that I’m not talking about America’s first black president—Bill Clinton—but rather the ‘hope and change’ dude in the White House. It’s all about humans’ propensity to deify their masters; nothing racists about it.
re Weiner’s behavior:
My beef with Weiner’s behavior is that he’s a politician. He can have sex with vegetables if that’s what bakes his cake. As for his being a reprobate ... humans don’t hold—and have never held—to the same exact moral guidelines. It is, at the moment, a question of ethics. I didn’t swear an oath as a Congressional member, he did.
re such as you choose not to acknowledge.
How can you say that? Project much?
re Teapartiers:
Why don’t you tell me how you really feel?
re Did I say stupid?
Yes you did; in the first sentence between the second and third commas.
re Nixon:
I agree. Well, to a point. I agree that Nixon was the most corrupt until the one to follow, who was the most corrupt until the next to follow, who was the most corrupt until the next to follow, ad infinitum…
re libertine attitudes contributed to the defeat of Democrats in elections:
That has been a part of it. Do you really believe that in a nation of 326 million you’re going to find a single set of moral guidelines that all will accept? There’s no way.
It doesn’t matter which side wins for the majority of citizens. Both sides are dancing to the same piper, the wealthy Power Elite. This is nothing new. It’s been the same since the earliest times of human history.
re Need I mention the Right’s obvious and well documented hypocrisy regarding sexual issues
Please do!
re Right consists of inveterate liars:
Agreed!
Where we differ is that I know that ALL humans are inveterate liars and love lies.
‘You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.’ –Jesus of Nazareth
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 8, 2011 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment
@ Inherit The Wind, June 8 at 6:35:
Who are ‘THEY’?
I’m no young man and I do not ever recall having heard MLK called ‘McCoon.’ As a matter of fact most of the disparaging remarks that I recall hearing had to do with his, reportedly, many extra-marital liaisons and even more on his supposedly being a communist. I think you just like using those terms.
You’re ‘shocked’ because you have—in error—codified me as a racist. And I’m still absolutely blank with 18, WS, and the alphabet nonsense. (a & h = arsehole?) Look, I’m old, I do not have any formal education above middle school and I’m also very poor and in bad health. I’ve never tweeted, don’t know how to tweet, I don’t even know what a tweet device is. What I’m saying is that I’m not hip anymore. That’s why I prefer direct speech.
Who’s Dr. Quack?
Your Mocha Savior’s skin color means nothing to me. I didn’t coin the term but I like it. Is there something wrong being Mocha colored? The dig is not in Mocha but in Savior. The Left had their dream come true in Obama; a minority, black (actually mixed), kind of effeminate, thus non-threatening, educated through affirmative action, articulate when reading a teleprompter, commie/socialist, contemptuous and arrogant, etc. All the things that intellectual rubbish tells us indicate an individual of superior virtue; a mirror image of the Right’s Messiah, Dubya.
My age and poor health give me an advantage of sorts. For me, it’s midnight at the masquerade ball and I can pull off the mask because the party is over. As I said I have no formal education BUT I do know human beings. Believe this or not, I encouraged people to vote for your Mocha Savior because I knew he’d disappoint and fail at every turn—even more than Dubya. I knew what the Left didn’t want to accept; that the Mocha Savior is nothing but another flawed member of the human race. I’m not a racist as you devilishly insinuate I.T.W., I’m a misanthropist! I believe the human race is stercoraceous and stupid beyond belief.
Your opinion of the presidents are just that; opinion. By what paragon of virtue does one measure which of the named presidents is most excrementitious?
The fact is that to receive the finances to campaign and win they all have to sell their souls to the devil; to the Power Elite. Your Mocha Savior sold his just as all who preceded him. They all do or they don’t win. The Power Elite is a master with an iron-heeled boot I.T.W.
You need to relax. The Mocha Savior will get a second term and the economy will continue to fail. The misery index will continue to climb. I guarantee it! The suffering and death that is right around the corner will be something to behold. That’s my only regret about being so close to my own death—I won’t get a chance to see it and laugh my arse off at all those apes going ape. How do I know? Because:
“Democracy is the idea that the state responds to what the people want. But as the demos grows accustomed to receiving substantial benefits from the state, subjects begin to conceive of the state not as an instrument of their own will, but as an independent source of benefits.” -K. Minogue (“The Servile Mind”)
“Mills looks even better than he did 50 years ago in his characterization of the benefactors of American capitalism as a corporate rich led by the chief executives of large corporations and financial institutions, who by now can be clearly seen as the driving force within the power elite.” - G. William Domhoff (“Mills’ The Power Elite, 50 Years Later”)
Now, about your bigotry…
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 8, 2011 at 12:48 pm Link to this comment
The Tea Partiers blame government for corporate malfeasance, while at the same time supporting policies that benefit corporate interests. Did I say stupid?
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The shortest and most brilliant statement of what is wrong with the Teaparty.
Democratic Libertines? Have we forgotten Newt “schtupping” his extra-marital girlfriend while the impeachment trial of Clinton was going on, an impeachment for….cheating on his wife? Or Bob Livingston leading the charge only to resign because he was…cheating on his wife? Of Henry Hyde excusing HIS cheating saying he was “young” (in his 40’s)? What about that right-wing preacher visiting the call-boy? Or foot-tapping in the Men’s room? How about John McCain cheating with Cindy for A YEAR before he delivered a divorce request to his then wife, while she was in a hospital. Now Schwarzaneggar, with a kid out of wedlock.
Sure there’s the tickler and Spitzer and Wiener, but, in fact, most of the Liberteen-age is on the GOP side.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 8, 2011 at 8:12 am Link to this comment
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By Lew-cifer, June 7 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment
Why would I consider myself a reprobate?
By Lew-cifer, June 4 at 10:50 am Link to this comment
“Understand that I have no problem with adulterous behavior ... the more the merrier is my motto.”
DICTIONARY
Adultery
Definition
Extramarital sex: voluntary sexual relations between a married person and somebody other than his or her spouse.
Is it that you don’t understand the definition of the word adultery, or the term “adulterous behavior,” or is it that you don’t understand the definition of the word reprobate?
Reprobate
Definition:
“A wicked, sinful, or unprincipled person.”
We don’t need the definition of wicked, or sinful, unprincipled will do nicely, or not so nicely, to define your unprincipled reprobation regarding adulterous behavior. “The more the merrier” defines your attitude clearly and concisely, doesn’t it?
Mocha Savior? Why the adjective? You can’t attribute this comment to “straight talking” or as a blow against politically correct speech; it’s a racist comment pure and simple.
Now, it’s clear that Weiner’s behavior was reprehensible and that he has demonstrated that he is a reprobate, and that he blatantly lied about his reprobation. I also disagree with his support of Israeli policies, and yes I am profoundly disappointed with Mr. Weiner. Mr. Weiner vociferously called out the Republicans on their obstruction of medical care for the 911 First Responders on the House Floor. After obstructing the legislatio the Republicans went on to vote against the legislation. This is just one more example that demonstrates the difference between Right and Left; a difference that such as you choose not to acknowledge.
Regarding the Tea Partiers, I’ll be perfectly frank, the vast majority of Tea Partiers are stupid, they are corporate dupes, and they possess no more political acuity than the average middle school student. Tea Party leaders run the gamut of being corporate shills, to being neo-Nazis. Tea Partiers deserve no apology, despite all their denials they are primarily motivated by racism, with a healthy dose of anti-government ignorance thrown in. The Tea Partiers blame government for corporate malfeasance, while at the same time supporting policies that benefit corporate interests. Did I say stupid?
Regarding the Left’s libertine attitudes about sexual issues, it’s my contention that these libertine attitudes contributed to the defeat of Democrats in elections going all the way back to Nixon, including the elections of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Nixon was the most corrupt president of the twentieth century. He continued the futile death and destruction in Vietnam. Ronald Reagan supported death squads in Central America and Jihadists in Afghanistan, while busily destroying the Middle Class here in the land of the brave and the home of the free, tripled the size of the national debt, and is responsible for the biggest shift in income redistribution in our nations history. Under Reagan and his continuing economic policies the rich have gotten much, much, richer, and the poor have gotten poorer… Need I point out George W.’s failings?
I have long believed that the Left’s Libertine attitudes have been a detriment to our society in ways most profound, and in ways to numerous to mention, but I continue to prefer the Left’s political policies, over the policies of Republicans. I actually detest these libertine proclivities, and the harm they do, and have done, to our society, but I believe that Republicans have done greater harm not just to our society, but to the entire world. Need I mention the Right’s obvious and well documented hypocrisy regarding sexual issues, at least the Left Politician’s reprobation involves women, and not boys or diapers.
Report thisRegarding lying, the Right consists of inveterate liars; they have to lie in order to survive politically.
By Inherit The Wind, June 8, 2011 at 6:35 am Link to this comment
“McCoon”
Doesn’t make sense to me either, but then again, I’m not a racist or a White supremacist. That’s how THEY refer to MLK. Of course “coon” is an old racist word for Blacks going back over 100 years.
I’m SHOCKED you don’t know about “18” as WS code. I’ll give you a hint: It’s one and eight, not eighteen, as in the first and eighth letters of the alphabet.
Why does Obama’s color matter to you? You may think he’s a shitty President (and I’m certainly heavily disappointed in him) but his being Black should be irrelevant. But it’s clearly not to you, or to the Teabaggers, or to Dr.Quack.
Hell, when was the last NON-shitty President? JFK? Ford (for a Republican)? LBJ, except for a little thing called Viet Nam? Ike? FDR? TR? It’s scary to think that Clinton was a shitty President but STILL better than Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and, sadly, so far, Obama (who is better than the others on the list as well).
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment
@ Counselor, June 7 at 11:18 am:
It’s difficult to use any words which might not be construed as double entendre. Cheap shots abound here, and Lew-cifer must think himself a very clever reprobate indeed. When reading lew-cifer’s comments, the numbers 2010 come to mind; it appears that Lew-cifer has appointed himself to be the nemesis of those who espouse moral behavior.
Correct me if I’m mistaken but wasn’t Nemesis a Greek god of retribution? I’m not retribution, sorry to disappoint. And I don’t see any comment of mine that can be understood as ‘retribution’ for anyone espousing moral behavior. Quite the contrary! Why would I consider myself a reprobate? Perhaps you confuse me with the sexting Congressman in question?
These low-moraled politicos all need to go. None of this, from where I stand, has anything to do with ‘the portrayal of the Left as being libertine.’ There is more than enough of this on both sides of the aisle.
Personally, I don’t buy into the Left vs. Right paradigm. There is only top vs. bottom.
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 7, 2011 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
@ Inherit The Wind, June 7 at 6:56 am:
“Mocha Savior”?
What’s the matter, don’t have to guts to call him what you really want to, namely a “damned uppity nigger”?
It never occurred to me to call your Mocha Savior a “damned uppity nigger.” Uppity is not a word that I’d likely use and neither is nigger. I do call him an arrogant, self-absorbed, no-good leftist #$%/(&$%$% politician, which is what I think of all leftist politicians. Change the word ‘leftist’ with ‘right-wing’ in the preceding and you’ll have my opinion of all right-wing politicians. Take out any reference to either side of the aisle and you’ll have my opinion of all politicians. Actually I can’t write my true feelings of what I think about politicians—regardless of skin color. I think being a lefty you were just looking for an excuse to write the word nigger. I’ve noticed that streak of hypocrisy in, self-absorbed, arrogant, enlightened leftist.
The subject of my inquiry was that disgraced Israeli congressman from New York not the Mocha Savior. I asked a legitimate question. You were quick to accuse innocent people—the Tea Partiers—and never considered that perhaps your Mocha Savior and his fellow gangsters might be sending a message to their Jew opponents within the Party. Who’s an easier target; Chuckie Shumer—a senator—or a two-bit Congressman? I know it hurts you to have to admit that you backed a sway-backed nag ... it happens ... Get over it!
Shouldn’t you apologize to the Tea Partiers for falsely accusing them?
And just for your information ... I have never in my life ever referred to MLK as McCoon. It doesn’t even make sense. Where the hell do you get the ‘Mc’ from? He wasn’t Irish. See how you leftist hypocrites look for opportunities to denigrate your favored “oppressed minorities of superior virtue” who you leftists consider too stupid to live their lives without the “Enlightened” leading the way.
And something else… what the hell is that 18 crap? You’ll have to educate me here because not being a hypocritical leftist teat sucker or enlightened one; I haven’t a clue what the hell you’re talking about.
Your boy Weiner was thrown under a bus because he stepped on somebody’s weenie. It’s very probable—as in not impossible—that this is a warning to all the rest not to cross the Mocha Savior and his plans to nail Israel to a cross. Prepare yourself, he’s going to resign because all those female ‘victims’ are lining up lawyers and as soon as the numbers ($) are right they’re all going to unload on his sorry, arrogant, self-absorbed collectivist arse! You can take that to the bank! Breitbart claims to have in hand X rated images of the Weiner’s weenie. This is just beginning.
You need to work on that anger. You’re acting like the Bushies when they realized that their village idiot was not a conservative. Communism and Socialism are proven failed ideologies. You could have a green-skinned alien reptile as president and she’d still be as big an absolute failure as your Mocha Savior. It’s the ideology, not the color of skin.
Report thisBy Counselor, June 7, 2011 at 11:18 am Link to this comment
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It’s difficult to use any words which might not be construed as double entendre. Cheap shots abound here, and Lew-cifer must think himself a very clever reprobate indeed. When reading lew-cifer’s comments, the numbers 2010 come to mind; it appears that Lew-cifer has appointed himself to be the nemesis of those who espouse moral behavior.
To me this entire incident only illustrates the moral decadence that is tragically pervasive in our society. The portrayal of the Left as being libertine regarding sexual issues goes all the way back to the days of the Moral Majority, and before, to the days of the Counter Culture Left. These accusations are not so much accusations as they are simple statements of fact. Setting aside the, Kennedy’s, Clinton’s, Edwards’, Spitzer’s, and all the other Wiener’s out there, there are the issues of abortion, births out of wedlock, divorce, single parent children, gay rights, gay marriage, etc. etc. Listening to Left wing talk radio one observes the gamut of the amoral to the blatantly immoral.
Not to be ignored is the hypocrisy of the Right regarding sexual issues and sexual behavior. The Gingrich’s, Hyde’s, Packwood’s, Foley’s, Vitter’s, Craig’s, Sanford’s, Thomas’, Lee’s, Shwarzenegger’s Bakker’s, Swaggart’s, Haggar’s etc. etc. the list goes on, see dkosopedia.com. I’m still waiting to hear about a Democratic politician who’s not just a philanderer but the wearer of diapers and the connoisseur of young boys.
In addition, we seem to revel in the revelations about sports stars, Miss America’s, and celebrities of all sorts. I’m wondering if Bret Favre didn’t contribute to Wieners reprobation. Anyone titillated by sexual scandal doesn’t have any shortage of titillations here in “America the Beautiful.”
The hypocrisy of protecting our children from sexual deviancy and promiscuity becomes evident when watching daytime television, uncensored, and featuring avowed deviants.
Enough said; I believe that moral decadence is at the core of all of all our problems, from the corpses of war, to social injustice, corruption, and including disturbed, heartbroken, and disillusioned children.
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 7, 2011 at 8:52 am Link to this comment
But the best thing of all is his wife’s first name, which is Huma——can you imagine being called “Hum-a-Weener.” You’d be hard pressed to make this stuff up!
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, June 7, 2011 at 6:56 am Link to this comment
“Mocha Savior”?
What’s the matter, don’t have to guts to call him what you really want to, namely a “damned uppity nigger”?
That’s what you mean by “Mocha Savior”, isn’t it?
Think nobody recognizes racist code words and you can fool ‘em? I’ll bet in private you call MLK “Martin Luther McCoon”, another code phrase.
Do you have “18” tattooed on your knuckles, too?
Report thisBy R. Nemo, June 7, 2011 at 2:10 am Link to this comment
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I like Weiner’s politics! I don’t care about sex on the side of
Report thismarriage. Everyone does it. It only matters if your a family values
hypocrite like Gingrich, etc. Liberals and old hippies get a PASS!
We don’t preach fidelity so we don’t have to practice it.
By Lew Ciefer, June 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment
@ Inherent The Wind
Earlier, you suggested the Wienerschnitzel’s criticisms of the Tea Party as a probable motive for his being “set up.” Why didn’t you consider his coming out publicly against the Mocha Savior and the 1967 borders? A SUPER DUPER PRO-Muslim president knocking off an Israeli Congressman ... do ya think it even possible?
“Other leading Democrats, most notably New York Senator Charles Schumer and Representative Anthony Weiner, also have come out swinging against Secretary Clinton’s and President Obama’s unprecedented public condemnation of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israeli plans to build more residences for Jews in Jerusalem.”
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=22629
Politics is nasty business…
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 6, 2011 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment
I’m sorry, so sorry,
Now that I’ve been caught,
I see I was such a fool
I didn’t know
tweeting my weenie
could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
You tell me mistakes
Are part of being a tweet
But that don’t right
The wrong that’s been done
Now that I’ve been caught,
I’m sorry, I’m sorry
So sorry, So sorry
Please accept my apology
But the little head is blind
And I was too blind to see
all those family portraits
behind me,
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
You tell me mistakes
Are part of being a pervert
But that don’t right
The wrong that’s been done
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
Now that I’ve been caught,
I’m sorry, I’m sorry
So sorry, So sorry
Please accept my apology
But the little head is blind
And I was too blind to see
all those family portraits
behind me,
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes
(with apologies to Brenda Lee)
“wow a jewish girl who sucks (bleep)! this thing is ready to do damage.”—A. ‘wienerschnitzel’ Weiner
Wow, Mr. Weiner… isn’t that devout Muslim wife satisfying you? Ice palaces…
These are the politicians who want to regulate the Internet because the average citizen is simply too stupid to have access to an unregulated Internet.
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 6, 2011 at 1:39 pm Link to this comment
@ Lew Ciefer…
Don’t be surprised if Dominique Strauss-Kahn turns out
Report thisto be Weiner’s uncle! And this does fit in with
Weiner’s idea of family values——he just prefers a
harem!
By Lew Ciefer, June 6, 2011 at 10:20 am Link to this comment
It’s being reported that there’s another little chickie with pics from the married congressman.
Democrats should be demanding that this guy resign immediately!
Where’s the Jewish community on this? Aren’t they supposed to be big on family values and YHWH and all that super religous stuff?
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 6, 2011 at 10:15 am Link to this comment
@Blackspeare, June 6 at 8:26 am
@ IceNine…
You’re absolutely correct. Weiner is of German origin,
but anglicized a bit. The correct spelling is Wiener
and would be pronounced as you indicated, “Veener” as
in wienerschnitzel.
ZING! Bwaaaaaaa!
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 6, 2011 at 8:26 am Link to this comment
@ IceNine…
You’re absolutely correct. Weiner is of German origin,
Report thisbut anglicized a bit. The correct spelling is Wiener
and would be pronounced as you indicated, “Veener” as
in wienerschnitzel.
By aacme88, June 5, 2011 at 8:05 pm Link to this comment
You may think it an unimportant detail that BigGovernment.com is run by one Andrew Breitbart, well known fabricator of scandals in the Democratic or working class sectors. But at this point, running with anything that has his name attached without proof of veracity identifies a “journalist” as a hack.
Report thisBy IceNine, June 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment
Hello Blackspeare. The name Weiner looks to me like it is of German origin. If so, and if my memory serves, in Germany the W would be pronounced as a V and the EI vowel combination would be pronounced as a long I.
Don’t remember much German at this point, but odd little things like that have stuck with me. Honestly though, I’m just amazed by the idea that someone actually read one of my posts. Almost smiling . . .
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment
@ By IceNine, June 5 at 10:15 am
Daytrip says: “Or, better deal yet, Weiner confesses if Repub’s raise the debt ceiling.” This seems like a winning deal to me and the most reasonable comment here so far.
Well if that is your version of reasonable you aren’t.
Here’s a novel idea: How about he simply own up to it like a man? Aren’t taxpayers paying enough for that arsehat without having to be blackmailed even more just to get him to grow a pair? What the hell is the matter with you?
Demand an investigation and let’s see if there really was a hack or if Weenie Weiner is nothing more than yet another blood-sucking organism that feeds and grows off the labor of productive human beings. My money is on the latter.
As for raising the debt ceiling ... haven’t Leftists had enough with Pelosi and her economic theory of unemployment benefits being the solution for a stagnant economy and high unemployment? The Forrest Gumps of the American political left have absolutely no prerogative to call Tea Partiers stupid.
FYI: his
lies“alibi” is unraveling even more:http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/06/05/060511-news-weiner-1-4/
Ta-ta!
Report thisBy Lew Ciefer, June 5, 2011 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment
@ Blackspeare, June 4 at 7:41 pm
Wow! He’s married to a devout Muslim. How many points does that provide for him? A Jew married to a Muslim must count for a lot in lib quarters. At least I would think so. Then again, it could be that she gets the points for being a Muslim married to a Jew. I don’t know how the Left works out the superior virtue thingy when the parties in question can all claim to be of an oppressed class. I’m sure they’re all the rave at intellectual cheese and wine gatherings. I can see all the self-loathing, white-skinned libs green with envy and groveling at their feet.
I reiterate: Weiner and his weenie can clear this whole thing up by asking for an investigation. Wanna bet he doesn’t unless he can finagle some method to keep the results from the public and/or pay one of the myrmidons to take a fall?
Hey… if this proves true what do you think the odds are that his Muslim wife might go all Lorena Bobbitt on his arse? Imagine the headlines: “Muslim wife gives Jew husband’s wiener a second circumcision!” or “Muslim wife circumcises Jew husband’s wiener down to the size of his morals!”
You can’t make stuff like that up! That’s a T.V. series ... maybe even a movie.
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 5, 2011 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment
Gee whiz boblgumm——chill out. It is evident you are not familiar with cultural jargon. Just like Blacks jokingly refer to each other as “you nigger”, Jews jokingly refer to each other as “you yiddle”. So in my post all I did was use a colloquial expression used by Jews themselves! As for a Jew marrying a Muslim——it was only strange in that it’s something you don’t hear about every day! Personally, if the whole world intermarried, then I could be an equal opportunity right-wing nut case!!!
Report thisBy boblgumm, June 5, 2011 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
Blackspeare you have proven once again that rightwingnuttedness, ignorance and being unenlightened go hand in hand.
Says blackspeare, “What’s even stranger is that Weiner, yes he is a Yiddle, is
married to a devout muslim!!!”
First, “yiddle” is not a word. Not in English, not in Yiddish, not in Hebrew.
Second, the only reason for your words “yes he is a Yiddle” is to somehow imply there is something wrong with being Jewish. Do tell.
Third, to use the word “strange” to describe the marriage of a Jew and a Muslim would imply there is something wrong with it. Again, do tell. By contrast, an enlightened, or even just positive, person would be more inclined to use descriptions like hopeful, world would be a better place if there was more of that…and the like.
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 5, 2011 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment
“Lastly, if the man’s name were being pronounced properly, the prepubescent jokes would go away.”
You make an interesting observation. The general rule is that when a double vowel occurs in a word, the second vowel is the one enunciated. So since he spells his name Weiner, then it would be pronounced “Whyner”. Except, he pronunces it “Weener” so it should really be spelled Wiener.
Report thisBy IceNine, June 5, 2011 at 10:15 am Link to this comment
The politician’s/public figure’s bible should contain a passage that reads: “Chastise ye not others lest your own comeuppance be close at hand.”
And a warning against flinging themselves and their private lunacies about on the social web would not be out of place either. Oddly, there are those among us who continue to expect a certain dignity in public from our so-called public servants.
On the other hand, Obama carries himself fairly well, is generally calm and deliberate in his speech and actions, and is often roundly criticized for it. Can’t win for losing.
Daytrip says: “Or, better deal yet, Weiner confesses if Repub’s raise the debt ceiling.” This seems like a winning deal to me and the most reasonable comment here so far.
Lastly, if the man’s name were being pronounced properly, the prepubescent jokes would go away.
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 4, 2011 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
What’s even stranger is that Weiner, yes he is a Yiddle, is
Report thismarried to a devout muslim!!!
By Lew Ciefer, June 4, 2011 at 10:50 am Link to this comment
@ Inherit The Wind, June 3 at 5:53 am
Weiner is attacking the TeaParty…Wham! This comes out.
Does it smell like a dirty trick to unseat a loud Dem and scare others back into their seats like they’ve been scared since 1994? You bet your ass!
Yeah… that’s one scenario based on absolutely no evidence whatever. Bias much?
He could dispel all the doubt by asking for an FBI investigation, could he not? Isn’t hacking into another person’s device a crime?
With respect to an investigation, I understand that the Wiener expressed concerned for taxpayer money, but I’d bet that more than a few taxpayers find a big-spending New York liberal claiming he doesn’t want to spend other people’s money a somewhat “flaccid” excuse. (No pun intended.) I’d bet that many—if not most—believe that the Wiener doesn’t call for an investigation because authorities will find out that the stupid, self-absorbed, arrogant, ugly-as-the-day-is-long, politician in question is so stupid that he pressed the wrong button on his tweeting device. How’s that line go? Stupid is…
What will the Wiener do should some other bimbette produce wienie photos sent to her by the MARRIED Mr. Wienie? Understand that I have no problem with adulterous behavior ... the more the merrier is my motto. And with all that duplicitous hypocrisy and feigned outrage by Democrats and Republicans thrown in—it’s more fun than a weekend at a county fair watching yahoos trying to catch greased pigs.
Wiener? Isn’t that Jewish? Hmmmmm.
Humans are an interesting species. One would think that they’d want those of the highest moral character to lead them; not some loser who cheats on his wife and flatters his own ego by sending lewd and lascivious pictures in order to corrupt impressionable young girls.
I guess Doyle was right: “The turds have floated to the top.” (The Jerry Doyle Show, 2/6/2011)
Report thisBy Jim Yell, June 4, 2011 at 6:19 am Link to this comment
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It seems no trick at all to hack peoples internet use. I never go to questionable sites and yet I get all sorts of crap.
Basically I am saying until proven otherwise these are very flimsy charges. Until it is proven that he and the lady know each other his defense is intact.
Furthermore I saw a video which showed the offending picture. The underwear is modest and shows much less than a swimming suit would show. It looks like an advertising photo for underwear, just as one would find in the daily paper. What is all the fuss about? Another Republican manufactured outrage, or another human defect? In this country built on lies and groundless accusations who can say?
Report thisBy Blackspeare, June 3, 2011 at 9:10 pm Link to this comment
The only thing Weiner has in common with the pic is that they
Report thisboth lean “hard” to the left!
By joentokyo, June 3, 2011 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment
I am a fan of mc.murphy!!
Well played!
Report thisBy willrose, June 3, 2011 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment
I keep hearing commentators on this case remark that they surely would recognize their own ‘nether regions’ in a photograph. Why do people think this? Don’t folks realize that this equipment is standard?
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, June 3, 2011 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment
Even bad press is free press.
I never heard of this quy until this underwear disclosure was penned.
As a politician he is milking it for all its worth.
Report thisBy mc.murphy, June 3, 2011 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
How about relegating Mr. Robinson’s columns to the gossip section, or better yet
the pubelle?
Oh, I forgot, he would lose a lot of cash not servicing the Oligarchy on the MSM,
and fluffing Matthews&Maddow;.
http://mosquitocloud.net/
Report thisBy Daytrip, June 3, 2011 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment
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Or, better deal yet, Weiner confesses if Repub’s raise the debt ceiling.
Report thisBy Ben, June 3, 2011 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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It’s obviously been put together as a means of
Report thisgetting rid of him. It’s a premeditated attack from
his opponents. Nonetheless, being a politician in
this day and age means being able to manage and
control these kinds of attacks, and I’m amazed how
poorly he has done in the last week. I really
respect the man, but what a mess he has made.
Outright denial would have been much easier to
manage, as now the cat is out of the bag and it’s too
late to deny anything! When it comes to this kind of
mudslinging and scandal mongering, the Democrats
could to take a lesson from the Republicans; they
never admit when they are wrong, even when the
evidence is hard and damning.
By Chubb, June 3, 2011 at 10:26 am Link to this comment
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Okay, so everyone knows Breitbart is a scumbag plumber on sombody’s payroll. Every Democrat sitting or not, federal or state should be on guard. That’s another reason they should stay away from social media.
But Weiner’s inability to flatly deny that picture is his southerly region is throbbingly damning.
When his wife rents an apartment the jig will be up.
Report thisBy Bri, June 3, 2011 at 9:48 am Link to this comment
Eliot Spitzer redux? Pathetic damage control!
Report thisBy felicity, June 3, 2011 at 9:36 am Link to this comment
C’mon - this is a media ‘event,’ an imbroglio created
and perpetuated by the media who, somehow, imagine
themselves to be prosecutors questioning defendant
Weiner as though he were on the witness stand in a
court of law. Well, if the media want to play by
those rules until the media proves him guilty, he’s
innocent.
(I will say that some of the questions posed by the
Report thisprosecuting media have been very clever - any answer
Weiner provides will incriminate him.)
By Inherit The Wind, June 3, 2011 at 5:53 am Link to this comment
Weiner is attacking the TeaParty…Wham! This comes out.
Report thisDoes it smell like a dirty trick to unseat a loud Dem and scare others back into their seats like they’ve been scared since 1994? You bet your ass!
By litlpeep, June 3, 2011 at 5:36 am Link to this comment
Anybody who obsesses over someone else’s weiner desperately needs a life.
But, alas, how do you interest them in shifting their point of view?
They are, after all, obsessed.
Report thisBy johnnyfarout, June 2, 2011 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment
I would make the deal!...1 full blast democratic penis showing for one full blast republican quim showing! nothing more…nothing less!
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