RE: ...Lockerbie and the spate of international terror unleashed by
Gaddafi…

PAN AM 103 correction: First, the press had word of a Syrian or Palestinian
suspect, but when wind of the C.I.A. involvement began to surface, the C.I.A.
needed a scapegoat. The socialist isolationist country is always the best bet,
because they are enemies of the U.S. by their mere existence, so bombing
and/or sanctions always needs a good excuse. C.I.A. killed two birds with one
stone, and pinned the Flight 103 bomb on Libya. -
http://www.welfarestate.com/panam103/

1986 Berlin disco bombing correction: A documentary broadcast August 25,
1988 by German public television presents compelling evidence that some of
the main suspects in the 1986 Berlin disco bombing, the event that provided
the pretext for a US air assault on Libya, worked for American and Israeli
intelligence. - http://100777.com/node/101

All the progressive secular Arab leaders are demonized by fabricated stories and toppled, one by one, by armed thugs many of them Islamist Radicals who have the full support of the West both financially and militarily.
Yes, those leaders have and had flaws, but what is replacing them is MUCH MUCH worse.
Just two days ago, an Islamist Party won the “elections” in Tunis. That Islamist party claim that it is “moderate” and that is just pure bullshitting.
Also the new leaders of Lybia declared that, from now on, the Islamic Sharia law is the law of Lybia and all other laws that does not agree with the Sharia are void.
There is no compatibility between Islamic Sharia laws and Democracy and equality. Non muslim individuals and women do not have the same status and rights like Muslim men.
In Egypt, the radical Islamist Muslim Brotherhood party will certainly win the election.
In Syria all the people that opposing the regime are Islamist radical groups. 
After all these Islamist regimes take hold in the Middle East, the accusations will start coming from the same people who engineered and helped putting them in power, , that the Middle East is a breeding ground of terrorists and human rights abuses and the stage will be set for antother round of wars for “regimes changes” and more occupations and partitions for new states.
That so called “Arab Spring” is in reality a dark miserable cold freezing winter and the Middle East is entering a period of wars and blood shed and destruction and the final beneficiary of all of this will be Israel??!!!
That William Pfaff is full of shit and he knows it.

All the progressive secular Arab leaders are demonized by fabricated stories and toppled, one by one, by armed thugs many of them Islamist Radicals who have the full support of the West both financially and militarily.
Yes, those leaders have and had flaws, but what is replacing them is MUCH MUCH worse.
Just two days ago, an Islamist Party won the “elections” in Tunis. That Islamist party claim that it is “moderate” and that is just pure bullshitting.
Also the new leaders of Lybia declared that, from now on, the Islamic Sharia law is the law of Lybia and all other laws that does not agree with the Sharia are void.
There is no compatibility between Islamic Sharia laws and Democracy and equality. Non muslim individuals and women do not have the same status and rights like Muslim men.
In Egyypt, the radical Islamist Muslim Brotherhood party will certaily win the election.
In Syria all the people that opposing the regime are Islamist radical groups. 
After all these Islamist regimes take hold in the Middle East, the accusations will start coming from the same people who engineered and helped putting them in power, , that the Middle East is a breeding ground of terrorists and human rights abuses and the stage will be set for antother round of wars for “regimes changes” and more occupations and partitions for new states.
That so called “Arab Spring” is in reality a dark gloomy cold freezing winter and the Middle East is entering a period of wars and blood shed and destruction and the final beneficiary of all of this will be Israel??!!!
That William Pfaff is full of shit and he knows it.

Another case of truthdig needs to dig deeper, way deeper.

http://subversify.com/2011/10/14/cracking-the-matrix-our-militaryindustrial-
spy-services/

http://subversify.com/2011/10/21/cracking-the-matrix-part-ii-our-
militaryindustrial-spy-services/

But then, in depth reporting take courage, something crassly lacking in our
armchair pontiffs presuming to enlighten us

For MeHere:

Mehere,

The reason or reasons our leaders are clueless is due to the fact that the Tunisian youth,Muhammad bou Azizi who sparked The Arab Awakening since December of 2010 has caught our political leaders while their pants were down-in fact way way down at their ankles!

Their helpless verbages and political tactics sound,at least to me,like trying to catch up or like trying to recover some of their lost influence in the Arab world.

Losing Husney Mubarak of Egypt,their yes-man,(his own people used to call him because of his dictatorship “The Modern Pharoa”),and losing Zain Al-Abideen ben Ali of Tunisia,another of their many yes-men in the region,( ben Ali appointed himself President for life in Tunisia and who came to power by a military coup,supported mainly by France and to a lesser degree by the CIA),has been a “HUGE DOUBLE LOSS”,unreplaceable,since The Arab Awakening has been led by Arab youths,uninfluenced and uncontrolled by foreign hegemoney.

Therefore,as long as the youths are the leaders of the Arab Awakening and refuse to end-up as yes-men to the leaders or builders of foreign empires,cluelessness will passionately continue to embrace our leaders who follow misguided foreign policy that serves only their masters whose campaign money contributions have helped them get elected in the first place.

America needs to have its own “American Awakening”.

I salute the author of the column,Mr.William Pfaff,for calling what has been going on,in the Arab world,“The Arab Awakening”,as it should be called.

There is no such a thing what has been wrongly called “Arab Spring”,since the Spring Season lasts only for three months,while “The Arab Awakening” has been going on for the last ten months and still counting. And I expect it to continue going on for a rather long time(years),until all Arab dictators are toppled one by one and consumed by something resembling an unstoppable chain chemical reaction whose influence will cross the political boundaries of the Arab States and impact the international equilibrium set originally to serve the interest of the international ruling classes across the globe. Such unwritten but well understood accord amongst the ruling classes of the world will eventually collapse,in favor of a more economically just international order than exists at the present time.

Human dignity can be leashed for a while,but it cannot possibly be leashed and undermind forever. The Tunisian Muhammad Bou Azizi who set himself on fire and died in protest against of what it was in Tunisia,sparked the Tunisian Revolution in December of 2010 was/is certainly telling about human dignity. The Arab Awakening that has followed in Egypt,Libya and now is going on in Syria,Yemen,Bahrain and to a lesser extent in Jordan,have all confirmed what Muhammad Bou Azizi have expressed by fire what human dignity meant to him and to millions upon millions of human beings like him across the globe.

Muhammad Bou Azizi was the catalyst for The Arab Awakening to start its own dynamic and chain reaction. It seems to me that The Arab Awakening has acted as the catalyst for the movement called Occupy Wall Street that swept across the globe from New York to Rome to Paris to Athens to Sidney,to,to,to etc….

When some of the Tel Aviv’s tents’s residents say that what the Egyptian revolutionaries,had done in Tahrir Square in Cairo,had/has inspired them to do likewise against their own Israeli government,was/is indicative as a further proof of what The Arab Awakening had/has already done.

Because of what has been going on in the Arab world in the last 10 months and counting,the greatest international ramification has yet to come. When it will occur is anybody’s guess. No one knows.

Occur?,it will. It is only a question of time.

For example: we’re not going to be “out of Iraq.” We will leave an enormous embassy and a large paramilitary force that Muqtada al Sadr has called “continuing the occupation” and vowed to resist. We should be right back in there within six months.

This piece is too simplistic for this audience. We’re not good old boys having a giggle in the coffee shop at breakfast here.

The purpose of all of this, is not to protect the citizenry of the Arab world.

We care no more for them than we do for our own.

The purpose is to isolate Iran from potential sources of Aid and support when the time comes to go after Iran. We’re almost there now..

i see no shred of evidence that u.s. found self in extreme difficulty after The Awakenig
in iraq.
for one thing, there are ab. ten americas or ten classes in a region merely called
america; in fact being a multinat’l and multicultic region.

so for which class had u.s aggression been an “extreme difficulty”, baneful, or
successful and how/why, and to what degree??
these questions at least lead one to further investigate, adduce salient facts, and only
thereafter to draw a conclusion anent damage to u.s, its classes of people, etc., arising
from all u.s wars, bases, cruising ships, wmd, huge army, cia/fbi, etc.

i don’t think that the members of the socalled private army in iraq have not enriched
selves from that war, how about bank[st]ers, arms manufacturers, politicians?
have they suffered in any degree? people tell me on these sites that some people got
much richer in ‘america’ in the last decade!

and i suggest u.s [‘america’=dreams and nightmares] is more secure now than ever.
there is no imminent or even distant aggression looming against u.s.
actually it is the other way around, u.s will, i expect, attack iran within two decades [if
it does not obtain wmd]; may attack syria; possibly pak’n, and other regions.

Author determined to be either a moron or a liar by paragraph 3.

i have said in ‘03 that u.s or us/nato aggression against iraq had not been waged
to obtain oil or guaranty supply of it. for one thing, no country complained ab, not
getting enough oil and any refusal by hussein to supply it in amounts desired by
west, s. n., and east wld have been a casus belli.

the war was waged for land and for [in]direct control of it. i also thought that the
recent aggression against libya had the same purpose. tnx

I find the images of Secretary of State Clinton (apparently) cheering or gloating over the assassinations and deaths of foreign leaders and more to be disgusting and disturbing.

Is she Secretary of State or of War? I’m trying to think if there’s ever been a US Secretary of State who so outwardly and aggressively carries the threat of war and destruction? It makes one rethink the ‘what if?’ scenario..

What if Clinton had been nominated and elected instead of the wan and cardboard-thin Obama?

Adios?

oil’s bought - oil’s sold - the question is this: how’s the tab settled - Anglo-
American-EU-based oligarchs don’t give a damn about human rights - 10k
NATO Strike Sories confirm that - what got them fighting mad and bent on
invaion were issues completely overlooked in this totally culture-centric
article… e.g.

from Stephen Lendman
http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/search?q=african+gold+dinar

[...]

Gaddafi promoted pan-African unity, a united states of Africa he hoped to lead
in opposition to Western powers wanting balkanized easily-controlled states.
According to Morehouse College Professor Laura Seay:

Gaddafi advocated a new “Gold Standard,” replacing dollars with gold dinars, a
plan Washington had to prevent to maintain petrodollar recycling and dollar
hegemony as the world’s reserve currency.

[...]

Clueless all along
Clueless about going into war
Clueless about getting out

And all we have is many thousands dead with families in grief, and many more
with ruined lives.

As far as Hillary, she is the iClinton, an electronic invention that can run wireless,
on electricity or on batteries.

re: “I find it hard to see why the Western countries would want an expensive war to seize the oil to which they already had ample access through purchase on the international market.”

Why? What if the overall goal of the global bad guy takeover is to thoroughly bankrupt the U.S.? What if your mission is to drive the U.S. into the dirt? It is not suicide because your loyalties are elsewhere and non-nationalistic, aka bankers. Nobody is stopping them! The Pentagon’s missing $2.6T,000,000,000,000 is still missing, and probably doubled by now. This is not national decision making 101 at work. Rather, it is more a vulture feast and prom dance on a drying carcus we call home. Bon apetit.

I suspect Hillary is also staying awake so she can keep an eye on Bill.

Interesting how we still aren’t seeing any real analysis of Tunisia’s historic elections and their results:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011102515333274376.html

Looks like Chris Hedges is being proven right 9 months after he wrote an article on the Egyptian uprising, stating that Islamic parties of different varities would now achieve power in the region.

“Although I am willing—more willing than most—to think the worst of the motivations of states, I find it hard to see why the Western countries would want an expensive war to seize the oil to which they already had ample access through purchase on the international market.”

Gaddafi was not a reliable client, like Noriega in Panama, so he was chosen to be taken out. It’s classic imperialism. The US has been doing it since at least 1898 when it “helped” Cuba liberate itself from Spain only to turn it into a client regime until the 1959 Revolution.

As for Israel, here we should indeed be very careful. Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are ranting, insane Mussolinis who will happily attack Iran to advance their state’s hegemonic agenda while fascist racial policies and ideas set their domestic agendas. It is not too insane to compare Netanyahu’s intentions towards Iran to Hitler’s nutcase plans for war against the Soviet Union.

Oh, God yes, Pfaff. Democracy is always MENACING, isn’t it? Terrifying. Especially for tyrants like Assad and Saleh and all the rest of those gangsters, put in place by the CIA. It’s a revolution. Get used to it.

Saying so in so many words, the problem for the U.S. is its tendency to allow its military to over-reach and tackle goals that are both illegitimate and immoral.  Calling them attempts to establish or uphold “democracy” does not change their color, and where success is impossible and failure cannot be admitted, impasse is inevitable.

That leads one to wonder why get into these situations? Since other answers don’t “hold water” one arrives at the suspicion that there must be a problem involved behind the problem—such as the jobs which the Pentagon and its “industrial complex” provide to people who would otherwise be unemployed, and the corporations and “private contractors” who would not be able to earn dividends.

The destructive “system” will grind on unless and until some public-spirited people can first, design transition to a better “system” and second, get the ear of elites both in government and in business who are convinced that it is better to listen and cooperate than it is to “hang tough” and depend on a handful of outdated spades which they have presently dealt themselves.

The Occupy movements help us gain time, but they can’t do the entire job alone. Some smart people with clout are going to have to step up.

Why do you separate the US from NATO? They are the same. You are saying “we insisted” on the attack and the independent NATO afreed. The US is NATO. And we supplied many of the weapons for the carnage. If the US was not directly involved, why did the govt go change the definition of “WAR” to require actual boots on the ground. They were covering their ass. Are you?

Hillary doesn’t look so haggard as she did when she started on as Secretary Of State.

What a dumb article.

You don’t have a point and you play games with the truth.

If I were you, I would be ashamed of myself.