#68431 by Jan L on 5/05 at 9:41 pm
(Unregistered commenter) — until there are some major “mea culpas” from NYT, CNN, the Washington Post, Time, ABC, NBC, CBS, ... the whole bunch.

***** recommended:

Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11 by Barrie Zwicker (Author)

Editorial Reviews - Book Description from
http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Deception-Media-Cover-up-11/dp/0865715734

A dozen carefully researched books have exposed the official story of 9/11 to be a terror fraud. Yet the mainstream media have monolithically failed to ask elementary questions about anomalies in this story. So-called alternative media have been little better. Towers of Deception explains why and prescribes actions to break out the truth.

Authored by a lifelong journalist who was for thirty-five years a media critic, Towers of Deception provides twenty-six “exhibits” of evidence proving “beyond a reasonable doubt” that 9/11 was an inside job. It then presents case histories of de facto censorship by mainstream media and examines the psychological phenomenon of denial. “False flag” operations and psychological warfare are dealt with in detail, as is the “invisible government” - the powers pulling strings behind the scenes. Following a profile of Dr. David Ray Griffin as an authentic prophet of the 9/11 truth movement, Towers of Deception urges people to speak truth to power and challenge all media.

Interspersed with photographs, diary entries, and inspiring profiles of those who see 9/11 truth as the Achilles’ heel of the neocon agenda, Towers of Deception includes a professional-quality DVD produced by the author: The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw.

As a practical matter, the concept of a “war on terror” borders on a meaningless oxymoron.  As noted by Gen. Wm. Odom (U.S. Army, ret.), “Terrorism is not an enemy.  It cannot be defeated.  It’s a tactic.  It’s about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we’re going to win that war….Acts of terror have never brought down liberal democracies.  Acts of parliament have closed a few.”  Yet, as a propaganda tool, it has been exceedingly effective.  As Norman Solomon noted in “War Made Easy,” quoting Nicholas Lehman, “War on terror…has entered the language so fully, and framed the way people think about how the U.S. is reacting to the Sept. 11 attacks, so completely, that the idea of declaring and waging war on terror was not the sole, inevitable, logical consequence of the attacks just isn’t in circulation.”  Indeed, Solomon continues, contracting “war on terrorism” into “war on terror” involves much more than saving headline space.  “‘Terror’...is a word fraught with numerous meanings…; among the subtexts…are vague notions to the effect that we can somehow effectively wage war with our own fear….”

From the perspective of the Orwellian sociopaths who invented it, the utility of the phrase “war on terror” lies in the fact that it is a war that cannot be won.  A scant 16 days after 9/11 Rumsfeld penned an op ed piece in the “New York Times” that “this will be a war like none other” and that we should not even think about “an exit strategy.”  As Antonia Juhasz notes, war on terror envisions perpetual war against an omnipresent “phantom menace;” “shadowy networks of individuals” which must be met “anywhere at any time, or everywhere all the time” thereby serving as justification for an ever-expanding military budget and a fundamental and permanent change of the structure of the U.S. government, entailing unchecked, dictatorial powers for a “Unitary Executive” as “Commander-in-Chief.”

Whether one accepts the view of 9/11 as a case of “blow back” or the view of the self-described “9/11 truthers” of neoconservative complicity, 9/11 could have been treated as a heinous crime rather than an act of war.  A multi-national “legal” response in order to bring the perpetrators before the bar of justice would not have threatened the very Constitutional democracy that the so-called “war on terror” pretends to defend but, in fact, seeks to destroy.

#67980 by RobertBennett on 5/03 at 6:22 pm
(44 comments total)

“I do not believe the War of Terror was a hoax.  It happened because we were afraid, and we lashed out.”

How much evidence must be reported for the fact that the “WOT” was and is a hox before you’ll admit that fact?

“For whatever reason, the War of Terror was a mistake.”

“[M]istake”!?  Certainly—as was predicted beforehand.  But was the actual purpose the deliberate creation of instability and chaos?

“But instead of asking, “Who did it?”, Progressives should be saying, “Here are some ideas to fix it.””

“Fix” what?  Bushit’s having “liberated” the Iraqi pople into civil war? 

“This will be Iraq if we leave without creating stability.  A Unilateral US withdrawal could very well pave the way for a New and Improved Terrorist State.”

Recall Abu Ghraib?  That alone was sufficient to demolish the US’s moral standing.  If you were Iraqi, would you trust the US?  Only if a fool, or insane.

The US is properly not trusted by the Iraqi people.  Unless trusted, the US can’t do anything in Iraq but continue to contribute to the death and destruction.  That would be the reality even if the war were being run by the trustworthy: it is simply too late to undo the damage.

The best option is for the US put the matter into the hands of the UN, and the other countries in the region with a legitimate stake in the issue.  And then stay away from that effort so as not to irretrievably taint it.

“I’m not at all happy about US troops dying in Iraq, but if we yank them out, the Blood of The New and Improved Killing Fields….

“...will be on our hands.”

Hello?  Is the current civil war in Iraq not resulting—now—in “killing fields”?

#67673 by THOMAS BILLIS on 5/02 at 4:54 am
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“Mr Scheer do you think even if Mr Tenet had resigned and gone public with what was not classified would it had made a difference.They would have called him a Clinton appointee with a political agenda and found something in his past to discredit him.I firmly believe that the man who could have made a difference is Colin Powell.I think Colin Powell realizes this also and has to live with it.Not an easy task for an honorable man.”

Colin Powell “honorable”!?  Powell was the first to “investigate”—and cover up—the My Lai massacre.

Powell very early made himself a yes-man for career advancement.  Then, when faced with a situation to which he should have said, “No,” he hadn’t the guts, the backbone, the courage, the character.  Instead, he knowingly decided loyalty to party and Bushit was more important than loyalty to his country.  More important than the lives of even “his” troops.

blog dog (#67988) might as accurately’ve added that those lame-brain attempts to stuff the runamok WAR genii back into the bottle are themselves looking more-and-more like much too little, far too late.  The rogue regime might appear to be somewhat “reined-in” right now, but all its essential “assets” are still running around loose and likely to be “pulling” something even more spectacular than 9/11 the minute they think the “project” itself is at-risk of being “compromised.”

This Indian might entertain a more optimistic outlook, if it wasn’t for the fact it is basically the same bunch who sat-by, or aided-and-abetted, (if that isn’t one of those differences without a distinction) while this whole mess was being ginned-up, who’re now wanting to be perceived wrestling heroically with the “problem” they themselves helped so much to create to begin with.  No doubt there are truly epic behind-the-scenes struggles going-on around-the-clock, as factions fight it out and collateral damage from friendly fire threatens to spill-out into the Homeland streets to an extent even the media mavens won’t be able to dissemble.

Yet even now there isn’t any sign whatsoever of any genuinely adult supervision.  The only sensible stance to take on that score is that The Establishment is as bankrupt in that department as The Republic is in everyone of its.

The Book of Changes says to look-out for disaster “....when the eighth month comes.”  That might be either August or October, or both.  Maybe those “duck-and-cover” drills are going to’ve served some useful purpose somewhere after all.

HokaHey!

Michael F. Scheuer wrote in the Washington Post, Sunday, April 29, criticizing Tenet from the perspective of “...a junior CIA officer who briefed him on covert action programs in Afghanistan. Later, I worked directly for Tenet after he took over the CIA and I became the first chief of the agency’s Osama bin Laden unit.”

There you have it.  Scheuer and Tenet both are issuing nothing but limited hangouts as are all the books cited in Scheuer’s article; all intended to be resonated through the main stream media — a so-called free press, as compliant as any in the world. The message is “incompetence, time for a change.” And now were hearing “impeachment” from Capitol Hill, though what we should be hearing is “treason.”

Here’s the real story: The 911 coup d’etat is an open secret in Washington, Wall Street and The City of London, as is the phony war on terror, the bin Laden legend and all attendant apocrypha. The scramble is now on to rein in the madmen before they start a world war through the insanity of their Middle East policy — a strategy of tension, almost a carbon copy of what we saw at the height of the Cold War in Western Europe and later in Central America. They are now desperate to undo this madness and retreat to a position of charging allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel to fight proxy wars to secure resources and salvage the collapsing petro-dollar; and to make the transition without blowing the 911 cover up, triggering the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War and precipitating a global financial meltdown.

Most in the Main Stream Media don’t understand this, as they are primarily unwitting useful tools. Even their own resident spooks are probably unwitting, like most of the security officers who were genuinely investigating leads prior to 911 — investigations which were literally killed or stalled by moles in service to the rogue network that planned and executed the 911 coup d’etat at the behest of those calling for “a new Pearl Harbor” - the PNAC, in service to a very exclusive elite club of global finance oligarchs, through which a schism has immerged over the ultimate outcome; i.e. war, being generally good business for them, may be starting to look like too much of a good thing.

A 4 million dollar contract does not make people ‘come clean’.  It makes them say whatever is required to get the 4 million dollar contract.

I do not believe the War of Terror was a hoax.  It happened because we were afraid, and we lashed out.

I suspect Director Tenet is simply, 1) making money and 2) distancing himself from his responsibility for the War of Terror.

For whatever reason, the War of Terror was a mistake.  But instead of asking, “Who did it?”, Progressives should be saying, “Here are some ideas to fix it.”

Do you remember The Killing Fields?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Fields

This will be Iraq if we leave without creating stability.  A Unilateral US withdrawal could very well pave the way for a New and Improved Terrorist State.

I’m not at all happy about US troops dying in Iraq, but if we yank them out, the Blood of The New and Improved Killing Fields….

...will be on our hands.

But there is a solution:
http://thespiritandthestone.squarespace.com/thespiritandthestone/2007/4/26/if-i-were-president-2.html

Verne’s correct but the original story got its start even earlier, some 4000 - 6000 years ago, with the commandments to go forth and multiply and have dominion over everything in sight.

This story really started, at least here in America, in at least 1492.  Let’s see…that’s 515 years ago.  Does anyone recall any reason or event that has changed anything (technology doesn’t count)in all of those years.  Aren’t we the same people?  Contrary to the history we were taught, this continent wasn’t vacant.  Are we really doing anything different today…I don’t think so!

#67901 by SamSnedegar on 5/03 at 1:38 am: “...so you can add him to the long list of people who should have resigned in disgust with the Bushitter policies. Just another thug….”

Its just a game to them.

Colin Powell is NOT now and never was an “honorable man.” He lied for the Army in the Vietnam hearings, he lied for Reagan, Bush, and Caspar Weinberger in the Iran Contra hearings, and he lied like a rug to the UN and the world in the shameful runup to the war to steal Iraq’s oil, and he very likely doesn’t rue a single one of his lies, so you can add him to the long list of people who should have resigned in disgust with the Bushitter policies. Just another thug.

“Comes clean”??? That kind of dirt just doesn’t wash off!!!

It’s so nice to see Tenet still has that soft spot in his heart.  You know that tender area that allows him to save his own derriere.

Poor baby, we know you didn’t “really lie” and of course, people aren’t “really dying” because of it.  You were just doing your job, or A job on the American and Iraqi people.  Yes Tenet, we see it ALL very clearly now.  We’re so overjoyed with your candor and forthrightness.

For your safety we have expansive gated communities with maximum security for you to stay for the rest of your life.  All us little people, we call them prisons.  Not to worry, a big ol’ CIA man like yourself knows how to handle those “nobody convicts”, right?

I wonder if he wants his medal back?

With a bit of luck, the wall of secrecy of this administration is starting to crack, as a major player, Tenet, makes an interesting attempt to save his skin at the risk of implicating others.

The next interesting step will be a prime-time TV debate between Tenet and Rice, Rumsfeld or Cheney.

But thinking of it, we should not hold our breath waiting for this. Our “mainstream” media has shown little propensity to rock the boat of the neocon corruption.

Love,

Does he deserve to have this medal ?

On SOB gave medal to one another SOB ! No more comments.

I’m sure that more than one tenant of the White House has thought they were lying to the public to achieve a greater good, and the Bushies thought that about the Mideast.

The thing I wonder is, did they believe their own rhetoric about democratizing the Mideast, or was sectarian civil war the actual goal?

#67724 by Jeff Gershoff on 5/02 at 10:01 am
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“Scott, I don’t know who you are or what you are, but your comments are way out of line.  Why don’t you save that stuff for personal emails between your little friends and yourself.”

I admit they’re probably a little out of line for more genteel company, but these are not exactly genteel times are they? I note you did use the word bastard to describe Bush. I guess the standard regarding polite verbiage falls somewhere between what you and I said.

Where the standard falls between what it takes a Republican to get impeached versus a Democrat is anyone’s guess.

Perhaps some people think this is a far more inflammatory thing to talk about than…fellatio.

Sly as a fox. Tenet is up to something. Why come clean now, and tell the world he’s a war criminal? Because…..he’s looking for upfront immunity. And the $4 mil book advance is going to come in handy when it comes time to retain some lawyers since his pension (and the proceeds from selling the Medal of Freedom on eBay) won’t be enough.

While the antiwar contingent howls about his sellout (and he IS a sellout), the people who really need to be concerned are the Republikans.

Kucinich may get his wish.

—

(R)owdy’s prescription for what ails Mother Earth (#67656) might be a cure no better in its after-effects than the AIDS-like condition She may be even now beginning to show signs of recovering from.  It does loom “out there,” though, as an all-too-possible end….and a remedy of last-resort to prevent the disease, and its carriers, from spreading to any more of Her sister worlds, as it once was brought here to infect Her, from one of them.  “No blame….,” to borrow parts of bits from both The Book of Changes and that old western sage Walter Brennan, “....just fact.”

As the Butchers’ Chorus in Handel’s “Messiah” sings so lustily, “We all like sheep….”  Still, even if the human component in Earth’s natural immune system seems to be terminally compromised at this point, She Herself is obviously not ready yet to give-up on us entirely.  After all, even a damaged and largely co-opted “resistance” offers something she can apparently, at least for the moment, go on living with.

What’s more, it’s human component goes-on doing the best it can in spite of its severely impaired capacity to function as needed.  Anyhow, there’ll be no need for people to call-down “....the Fire this time” upon their own heads.  If it is in the end the only “....way out of here,” for us jokers and those thieves, we’ll surely be all ready to once again travel Light.

HokaHey!

Dear Mr. Scheer,
Thank you so much for writing such a truth telling article. To about 30% of us in the U.S. population in 2002-2003; this shallow, insane, deceptive propaganda campaign was obvious from the start. We started off as the minority but we are now in the majority because sadly, we have been vindicated. Everything we warned against happeneing, BEFORE we invaded, has happened (& even worse!). This was all foreseeable before we even invaded Iraq. Those of us in high places (not myself-I am just a “lowly josephine blo”) who did have the courage to speak out, had their characters assasinated and their patriotism attacked from all directions; from the White House, the news media and the GOP leadership.

It astounded me that so many ignorant Americans were stupid enough to allow themselves to become bamboozled in the first place when this whole chirade was obvious to anyone paying attention. This, along with the shameless complicity of the cowardly news media (whose job is to be our last layer of protection against a corrupt govt.) and cowardly politicians in Washington who voted for this war when they knew better.

During these Orwellian times (that still exist); I thought that I (and a small percentage of Americans) was the only one who was insane. At other times, I thought the whole country was going insane while I was the only sane human being (along with a small percentage of other Americans). Our voices were continually squelched by the mainstream news media during this whole collective, monumental failure which caused me to feel despair; as our country stumbled into unmitigated disaster.

Mr. Scheer; thank you for all of your courage in speaking out during this entire time and putting journalistic integrity ahead of your own, bottom line career while so many other journalists cowardly went along to “get ahead” with their own selfish careers. Unfortunately, the search for the truth got lost in the mainstream news media’s efforts to cover their butts from charges of “disloyalty, unpatriotic, emboldening the enemy & yada, yada, yada…”, you get the drill. While your courage may have cost you your job at the Los Angeles Times; I believe the good karma you accumulated through your brave, self-sacrificing courage will reward you in the long run, a hundred fold. When you are on your deathbed, you will have a clear conscience knowing that you bravely spoke out and tried to save hundreds of thousands of innocent lives lost in this debacle while millions of others failed to do so.

Scott, I don’t know who you are or what you are, but your comments are way out of line.  Why don’t you save that stuff for personal emails between your little friends and yourself.

“What are the first steps for impeachment of the President?”

Catching one in the act of receiving an illicit blowjob. You actually have to catch one with his dick in someone’s mouth though. A stain obviously won’t cut it. It’s important that the standards of evidence be held as high as possible.

Although clearly acting only on self-interest and a kind of feeble attempt to strike out at those who he feels hung him out to dry as a public sacrifice, we should still try to use what Tenet has revealed that perhaps wasn’t specifically known before.  What are the first steps for impeachment of the President?  It’s bein talked about a lot lately but while we’re talking about it the blood still runs thick in the streets in Iraq, and billions of US dollars are going to perpetuate the carnage and make the fattest cats even fatter.  I pose to you the suggestion that we cannot wait until November 2008 to make a change.  We don’t have that luxury.  We need to summon the energy and the resolve and act now. Impeach the bastard.  What is the first step?

“The goal was to bamboozle Americans…”

The saddest part is that it is SOOO EASY TO DO!

But what would you expect of members of an insular culture born and bred on HYPE, FOR-PROFIT PROMOTION and SNAKE OIL SALESMEN? Americans LOVE the “pitch” - they’re force-fed superficial pap 24/7 in most media - a phenomenon which rises to a super-heated, super-expensive level during the marathons of political foreplay that lead to “election day.”

The worst of it all is that they do it while immersed in a continent-wide pool of the gooiest hypocrisy anyone can imagine. Utter even ONE WORD unsupportive of the “American Way” and you’re immediately branded as “UNAMERICAN” which is right up there on the hysteria scale with COMMUNIST and ATHEIST.

“Tenet knew that the Bush administration had sold the public a package of lies, but he waited to reveal that truth until he could turn a hefty book profit.”

The ethic I see displayed most often amongst the rich and powerful in America is summed in that paragraph. Profit and control at ANY cost.

Using the history of all past empires as my guide, I suggest that “cost” will be the United States of America. It’s so sad. There was such promise. We humans don’t seem to learn the important things from the experiences of those who’ve gone before. And I don’t know why not.

Tenet’s new book seems to provide yet more reasons for Congress to look into activities and events prior to the invasion of Iraq. There seem to be many questions and suspicions. Take a look at:

‘Intelligence failures’ prior to 9/11, Iraq war: Planned strategies? (AmericanChronicle.com)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3367

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CIA inspector general blamed own officers; scapegoats for intel on 9/11, Iraq? (AmericanChronicle.com)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=3510

“...Tenet knew that the Bush administration had sold the public a package of lies, but he waited to reveal that truth until he could turn a hefty book profit…”—Robert Scheer

And neither Tenet nor Scheer are ready to discuss the real truth about our Iraq misadventure; maybe they are waiting for hefty book profit, and maybe they are just protecting the millions they both have already made and want to keep.

There is no reason whatsoever to keep talking about the lies told in the run up to war if you can tell the truth instead, but no one is interested in that. I guess it is much more fun to prove someone a liar than it is to find out the truth that made it necessary to lie in the first place.

Try this: covet, lie, steal, and murder. No, that doesn’t apply to some arab, it describes the actions of all of us, the citizens of the USA, and every single representative we employ in our Congress, and every member of the executive branch, and every member of the criminally corrupt Supreme Court.

What we have done to the Iraqi people is indescribably evil, so much so that we can’t face the truth and resort to a state of denial similar to that experienced by Germans when the Hitler gang of thugs ruled Germany as the Bushitter gang of thugs rule the USA today.

67641/tao walker
religious fundamentalists are the #1 evil in the world as we know it. they have infected the government at all levels. how can we move forward when their goal is to make us all stupid. bush has a holy war going without even being aware, KKKristians aren’t the only crazy religious nuts in the world. these same lunatics, KKKristians and muslims have been at each others throats for a thousand years. each group is divided into smaller groups of maniacs, each group convinced that they have all the answers. the answer is for the planet to experience thermonuclear holocaust, ridding the planet once and for all,of all religion. hopefully decimating the entire so called human race. let the bunnies and sheep have dominance over the planet. kitties rule!! maybe there will be room for a few dogs too, i like dogs.

I think those of us that have known the truth that has always been available and there to see, will not be surprised at anything Tenet or any other ex-government official has to say.  As each one speaks they only give details to what we already know.

There is a lot of money yet to be made from this war, and many of the players will milk it for all it’s worth.  Mr. Scheer got that right.

We the people have been the real failure here and are complicit in this whole criminal mess.

We have not yet begun to pay the real price; this is my worry.

Alright, the rogue regime “....sold the public a package of lies.”  And it was that very sales job that turned out to be the real “slam dunk.”  The question that still urgently needs asking is why “the public” was such an easy mark….especially since honest people are not nearly so susceptible to being fooled. 

Maybe the 9/11 “trauma” did leave the public and the media and the Congress even more disoriented than usual.  “(A) new Pearl Harbor….” had in fact been calculated to have just such an effect.  But only a people long accustomed to accepting self-satisfying fabrication in place of hard and discomfitting truths about themselves and their world could’ve been counted-on to deny the evidence of their own eyes in-favor of the ludicrously far-fetched tale force-fed them following the false-flag assaults on the WTC and the Pentagon.

Theamericanpeople and their professional pundits would do much better to subject their ownselves to some rigorous scrutiny here.  The Tenets of this world are nothing but puppets anyhow….ones readily replaceable by those seldom-seen manipulators who jerk the Georges and others around.  What is lacking in the character of “the public” that makes them so easily sucked-in by the dumb-show?

Mr. Scheer might devote some of his considerable resouces and talents to digging up the awful truth about the long-term complicity of the public and the media and the Congress in a criminal enterprise that has now taken dead-aim at the once “most favored nation” Lincoln called “....the last best hope of men on earth.”  Because, as the ancient sage Lao-Tzu observed:  “The causes of a son murdering his father, or a nation collapsing into ruin, do not lie between the morning and the evening of a single day.”  Not even if it’s a day like September 11, 2001.

HokaHey!