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Tea Party Bigotry Can’t Stop History

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Posted on Mar 22, 2010

By Eugene Robinson

WASHINGTON—“This is what change looks like,” President Obama said after succeeding where Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson and Harry Truman had failed. On Sunday, as comprehensive health care reform was becoming a reality, some people couldn’t bear what they saw.

By early afternoon, a tea party demonstration had assembled on the grounds outside the Capitol and begun its familiar chant, “Kill the bill!” There were the usual placards about socialism, tyranny and the perceived threat to all that is good and true. The movement claims to have African-American and Hispanic followers; maybe it does, but I didn’t see them.

A smaller, more diverse group had gathered nearby to demonstrate in support of the health care legislation. Organizers said they put the rally together overnight to show that rejectionists weren’t the only Americans with strong feelings about the issue.

On Saturday, the vile epithet that is euphemistically called “the N-word” had been hurled at Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., one of the great heroes of the civil rights movement, as he walked past the tea party crowd. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is also black, was spat upon. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who is gay, was insulted with the epithet that I guess should be called “the F-word.”

Most Republican opponents of health care reform had the decency—and the political sense—to disavow the racist and homophobic attacks. Incredibly, some did not.

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Rep. Devin Nunes of California told C-SPAN: “Yeah, well I think that when you use totalitarian tactics, people, you know, begin to act crazy. I think, you know, there’s people that have every right to say what they want. If they want to smear someone, they can do it.” And Rep. Steve King of Iowa airily dismissed the incident: “I just don’t think it’s anything. ... There are a lot of places in this country that I couldn’t walk through. I wouldn’t live to get to the other end of it.”

If the attempt at intimidation had any effect, apparently it was to stiffen Democrats’ resolve. Sunday, after hearing a call to action from Lewis, the Democratic leadership walked that same route arm-in-arm while the tea party demonstrators booed and jeered. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, striding next to Lewis, carried the oversized gavel that had been used decades earlier to mark final passage of the bill establishing Medicare. Taking literally the advice of Theodore Roosevelt, the first president to call for universal health care, she spoke softly and carried a big stick.

When the House began its final debate, there was already the sense that history was about to be made. On one of her many trips between the House floor and the speaker’s office, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla.—a cancer survivor—said that fighting for health care reform was one of the reasons she ran for Congress. “It’s going to be hard to forget this day,” she said.

When I asked Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va., to put the vote in perspective, he smiled and said: “Years from now, we’re all going to look back and say that this was one of the days when we were worth a damn.”

Hour by hour, the mood on the Republican side of the aisle—buoyed for most of the day by the tea party hootenanny outside—seemed to deflate.

At the White House there was elation after the final vote. Obama’s much-criticized strategy of pushing forward on health care despite the economic crisis had been rewarded with a historic victory. His tactic of letting Congress shape the legislation had been vindicated. His promise of change had been given new substance.

Even with the “fixes” that now have to be approved by the Senate, the health care bill is something of a mess. But it’s a glorious mess, because it enshrines the principle that all Americans have the right to health care—an extraordinary achievement that will make this a better nation.

It may take years to get the details right. The newly minted reforms are going to need to be reformed or at least fine-tuned, and those will not be easy battles. But the social movements that allowed Obama to become president and Pelosi to become speaker proved that the arc of history bends toward fairness and inclusion.

Needed change must not be thwarted, even if some people find it hard to accept. Obama’s epitaph was right: “We did not fear our future. We shaped it.”

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.
   
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By The 6strngMstr, April 11, 2010 at 9:32 am Link to this comment
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LEARN YOUR HISTORY -
We need to stop apologizing for the fact that the intelligent people of America know the only real solution to our health care is an eventual govt/managed run system that this bill will one day lead too.
But please dont all cry Boo Hoo !& ask why Obama did not just fight for a public option plan now , Christ the Fox & their tea slaves would have had a fake emotional cow ! Hell after dem’s only slightly regulated big insurance corporations to say ” Now you cant directly & openly F..k people in the butt Yet they cried on command ” ohh god its socialism ! Just like the GOP did when the Dems 1st pushed for medicare (Yet Tea bagers sure love thier medicare ? Hmmm
Didn’t your hear what Ron the gipper said ? He said it was ugly socialism !( ohh wait that’s Real History -you all get all that from Glen Beck.

Speaking of history these old folks of today were spared the results of the GOP’s last big run that ended in a Great Depression. But their parents generation just 20 year before, sure remembers when the GOP told them ahhh “Too Bad work harder” after the free corporate cowboys & les a fare lairs sucked the system dry & left middle/poor America with a steaming plate of dung to eat .

Luckly one of the great leaders of our history & his wife were smart & decent caring human beings who put America back on the right track & led us into the greatest run the middle class has ever had or known in the USA.

But these folks don’t remember as they just enjoyed the spoils of FDR’s programs & now sit by while a jackass TV fraud cries crocodile tears & lies about FDR & the ND & they sit there & go ohhh Yes Master duhhhhh!.

My grandfather who even had to hear GOP lies & crap in his later years for strongly supporting JFK taught me all about these fools & always said ” if it ever looks like they could take over & help the GOP screw the states again , just take your family & go to whatever country is supporting a socially just democracy at the time, Because life’s way too short to try & convince dumb pigs of their folly.
Amazingly one of the countries on that list today would be Germany !The very place his father (my GGF) fled from in 1931 & the his son felt proud fighting against in WW2 supporting real freedom & fighting against European fascists.

I think eventually America will see the light & toss the fascists crooks aside but I cant wait around another 20 yrs for idiots to wake, as up my kids will need a real education /opportunities in much less time.

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By Inherit The Wind, March 27, 2010 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller:

ROFLMAO!

Then I think that about the fact that GRYM won’t have a FRACKING clue what you are about and I laugh 10 times harder!

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By Leefeller, March 25, 2010 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

GRYM, let me try once more, though it would be prudent to suppose this may be the last time I shall try, for their are only so many points to be made.

It should be known, with politeness and very little fact, finer points coupled with hidden points and give or take a few prickly points, supposedly equal one point!

Why do you suppose my brother in law a short curly headed white man with a very large nose and a limp, had a major accident with a wrecking ball and was never on Fox news?

Why do you suppose my mail box made in the shape of a very large frolic symbol, (approximately 12 feet tall), was stolen by a dwarf and never on the Oreally detractor?

Why do you suppose I own 40 black cats and their very large litter box always seems to need cleaning and Mr Robeson has never written about it?

Why do you suppose, these did not make their point?

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By John Kace, March 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment

Holy Cow I feel like at the Chicago Cubs website and and and and and and and and and and and you said and and

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 6:02 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller - ITW,

I suppose I’ll try one more time.

Why do you suppose MSNBC decided to repeatedly air a 5 second video clip of a gun toting “Tea Bagger” yet never display this man’s face?  That he was actually a black individual peacefully protesting like everyone else? 

Why, do you suppose, did Olbermann and his producers, with Eugene Robinson right there in the mix, choose not to display 5 more seconds of that clip while Olbermann and Robinson publicly discussed the “bigoted, conservative, gun toting white people” frightening Americans?

Why, do you suppose, did Mr. Robinson allow TruthDig to change the title of his column to read—“Tea Party ‘Bigotry’ Can’t Stop History”?

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By Leefeller, March 25, 2010 at 5:34 pm Link to this comment

GRYM stated:
“I don’t care for Mr. Robinson labeling demonstrators or critics as racists.” 

Now I understand GRYM, clearly a reason to hurl (known only to one pointy GRYM)... hurl ... not to make a fine points of it… at…. Robinson, yes GRYM, supposed points are very clear now and taken, yes,.... clear as a whistle…....especially, now I see the point fine or otherwise, even hidden points! .........see the point!......yes suppose the point, any point…... everyone see the not so fine point, all together now, lets all hurl!

GRYM, yes I understand clearly now, Shingles where are you!

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By Inherit The Wind, March 25, 2010 at 5:29 pm Link to this comment

Go Right Young Man, March 25 at 3:42 pm #

Leefeller,

Do you ever hold a respectful conversation with people whom you disagree? I am always willing if others make even the slightest attempt.
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Hell, GRYM, he doesn’t hold respectful conversations with people with whom he AGREES!  That’s part of what makes Leefeller easily the brightest bulb in the chandelier and certainly the funniest!

Never heckle a comic—you WILL end up looking like a fool!

Hey, Mystic—no offense taken. If I didn’t say it, I can’t be blamed for saying it!

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller, - “Look GRYM, with all this supposing going around, maybe I can suppose someone making a point of announcing another as a raciest bigot could supposedly be one themselves?”

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Without putting too fine a point on it I appreciate that you could find it within to address me directly.

I suppose you’re right.  I suppose that was one of the points I myself hurled toward Robinson.  I don’t care for Mr. Robinson labeling demonstrators or critics as racists.  I suppose that prejudices me against him as an individual.  With that said; I believe he is a racist and an unrepentant bigot.

Why do you suppose MSNBC decided to repeatedly air a 5 second video clip of a gun toting “Tea Bagger” yet never display this man’s face?  That he was actually a black individual peacefully protesting like everyone else?  Why, do you suppose, did Olbermann and his producers, with Robinson right there in the mix, did they choose not to display 5 more seconds of that clip while Olbermann and Robinson publicly discussed the “bigoted, conservative, gun toting white people” frightening Americans?

Feel free to be specific in your suppositions.

Why, do you suppose, did Mr. Robinson allow TruthDig to change the title of his column to read—“Tea Party ‘Bigotry’ Can’t Stop History”?

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By Leefeller, March 25, 2010 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

Respectful conversation with someone whom I disagree?

GRYM, supposition is not fact where I come from, with all the supposes flying around GRYM, one may find one worth discussing but I doubt it.

I learned a long time ago not to argue or try to discuss anything with a drunk. Recalling once when I was accused of being a Yankee by a drunk guy who was supposed to come from Mississippi, he supposed in his stupor that he could land a punch that would hurt.

Look GRYM, with all this supposing going around, maybe I can suppose someone making a point of announcing another as a raciest bigot could supposedly be one themselves?

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller,

Do you ever hold a respectful conversation with people whom you disagree? I am always willing if others make even the slightest attempt.

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By Leefeller, March 25, 2010 at 11:49 am Link to this comment

GRYM writes: Robinson is a raciest and a bigot, then writes the following “Insults are quick and lazy, my friend”. Uh!..... Yeah? Really got me on that one!

Well then it seems someone owes Robinson an apology!

Mr. Robinson, I cannot apologize for the bigots in this world, for it seems they exist in quantity and unfortunately in absurdness. Though I offer my apologies anyway.

Sincerely Leefeller

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 11:24 am Link to this comment

Leefeller,

Do you ever hold a respectful conversation with people whom you disagree?  It requires practiced honer and patience, however, it can be done.

Insults are quick and lazy, my friend.

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By JDmysticDJ, March 25, 2010 at 9:51 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind

My sincerest and heart felt apology, only Go Right Young Man qualifies as being a loony. I mistakenly attributed one of his posts to you.

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By JDmysticDJ, March 25, 2010 at 9:40 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind and Go Right Young Man

Go Right Young Man says,

“The individuals calling Dr. Rice a nigger are ‘most likely’ racists.”


“Most likely” The Nazis were anti-Semites.

“Most likely” the Segregationists were racists.

“Most likely” Jimmy Carter was Correct.

“Most likely” you two are a couple of loonies.

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By Leefeller, March 25, 2010 at 9:17 am Link to this comment

GRYM,

After some training from the Shingles, it seems GRYM finds the technique of association as fact, worthy. Firing homemade rockets are we GRYM, reminds me of a bigots calling the kettle black!

My so slanted view and my never meaning what I say and never saying what I mean again GRYM?

Yes,  only in the mind of GRYM is Robinson a “racist bigot” but of course one cannot come to discuss the article itself. For some reason me thinks GRYM has a fetish about our half black president?

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 6:22 am Link to this comment

ITW,

I wanted to make this point in a separate post.

Mr. Robinson writes: “The movement claims to have African-American and Hispanic followers; maybe it does, but I didn’t see them.”

The interesting thing about this statement is in the fact that on MSNBC Robinson and Olbermann have had several discussions, spanning several months, in regards to some “white”, elderly and “conservative” Tea Party protesters, I believe in Texas, that were carrying guns.  During these discussions they continuously replayed a very brief video clip of a man, from the rear, from the torso down, with a holster and handgun amongst the crowd. It was an ominous image while the discussions between the two continued on.

Now comes the egregious part.  If one did not watch ABC, CNN, C-Span or Fox News one would have missed an extended snippet of that same man with the holster and handgun.  The man happens to be black!

Do you find that as interesting as I do?  Sincerely I ask; why do you suppose MSNBC decided to repeatedly air a 5 second video clip that never displayed this mans arms and face?  His color?  When they could have displayed 10 seconds of that clip, which would have displayed more context, while Olbermann and Robinson discussed the “bigoted conservative white people”.

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I have concluded, with good cause I believe, that Mr. Robinson is a racist and bigot.

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By Go Right Young Man, March 25, 2010 at 5:38 am Link to this comment

ITW,

I think you’ll have to read my comments as a whole.  I also think we need to look at Mr. Robinson’s body of work over the last two years. This is not the first, second, or third time Robinson has suggested, in print and voice, that all protests or critiques of Mr. Obama, both before and after 2008, are rooted in bigotry and/or racism.  His premise is simply wrong.

You may parse this latest article in order to highlight your view, HOWEVER, did you take note of the -not so subtle- title of this article?

“Tea Party Bigotry Can’t Stop History”

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The individuals calling Dr. Rice a nigger are most likely racists.  Does this reflect on the Bush critics as a whole?  I think not.  Those black people calling Gen. Powell “Uncle Tom” are likely feeling anger and, well, bigotry of some sort.  Do these individuals represent the whole of black critics of the General?  It seems unlikely.

Eugene Robinson presupposes that white people are likely to be racist.  He imagines criticisms of President Obama must be rooted in racism/bigotry.  On both counts he is simply wrong.

It is clear that Eugene Robinson puts a great deal of importance on the color of the current president’s skin.  It’s commonly referred to as “Racism”.

1.  a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities
2.  racial prejudice or discrimination

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There is next to no evidence that protests or criticisms of current Washington policy is rooted in racism or racial bigotry.  There is no defense of Robinson’s continual suggestions, and outright claims, that there is.  He is the one highlighting the few to condemn the whole.

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By Inherit The Wind, March 25, 2010 at 3:37 am Link to this comment

There is no defense for Mr. Robinson’s article.  He’s an open an unapologetic bigot and racist.
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GRYM:  You cannot defend that statement based on ANYTHING in this article.

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The movement claims to have African-American and Hispanic followers; maybe it does, but I didn’t see them.

A smaller, more diverse group had gathered nearby to demonstrate in support of the health care legislation. Organizers said they put the rally together overnight to show that rejectionists weren’t the only Americans with strong feelings about the issue.

On Saturday, the vile epithet that is euphemistically called “the N-word” had been hurled at Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., one of the great heroes of the civil rights movement, as he walked past the tea party crowd. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is also black, was spat upon. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who is gay, was insulted with the epithet that I guess should be called “the F-word.”

Most Republican opponents of health care reform had the decency—and the political sense—to disavow the racist and homophobic attacks. Incredibly, some did not.
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Please show me what ER has said that’s racist. Are you saying that claiming that it’s NOT OK to call Black Congressmen “Nigger” is racist? That it’s racist to say it’s NOT OK to call a Gay Congressman “Faggot”?

If that’s your definition of “racism” I’d hate to see YOUR definition of “tolerance”.

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By Go Right Young Man, March 24, 2010 at 12:39 pm Link to this comment

Octavius, (Unregistered commenter)

This Web Site is riddled with hatred, bigotry and flagrant racism.  Singling out any race as somehow different in their nature, for example, “white people” meets the very definition of a Racist. That’s just a fact!

Here is the reality less the racist commentary.

A certain percentage of this nation are bigoted, selfish, mean-spirited, uneducated, gun-toting Hispanic/Black/Asian/Arab/White human beings.

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There is no defense for Mr. Robinson’s article.  He’s an open an unapologetic bigot and racist.

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By Octavius, March 24, 2010 at 11:21 am Link to this comment
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When you lie with pigs, you get dirty.

When every single TPartier who shows up at a protest is White, and some of them yell racist insults—THE WHOLE LOT OF YOU GET DIRTY.

Hypocrisy may be the very foundation of modern conservatism, but watching it play out time and time again only REINFORCES what Americans have come to expect—you cannot align yourself with the TP movement, laud their tactics and their principles, call them patriots, and then disavow your alignment when the true racist nature of their believers starts to manifest.

You can’t have it both ways.  Nothing about the anti-Obama crowd is all that “unique” or brilliant or special or Patriotic.  A certain percentage of this nation are bigoted, selfish, mean-spirited, uneducated, gun-toting White people.  That’s just a fact.  They love to talk about the Constitution as if it’s a biblical document that confers “special powers” on themselves.  Most if not all of these morons flocked to the Tea Party like ants to sugar.

And why? Because the TP provides them with a safe harbor from which they can fling their racist vitriol with not only no consequence, but lots of attention.

So when you holier-than-thou conservatives try to defend the TP movement as “above it all” and “justified” and unsullied by the filthy smell of the company you keep—you L.O.S.E.

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By Go Right Young Man, March 24, 2010 at 7:25 am Link to this comment

Big B, - “Just so I understand, if a conservative nominates a minority for a position and a liberal opposes it, the liberal is a racist. And if a liberal nominates a minority and a conservative opposes it, he is a patriot.”

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I trust it is clear to you now that I neither suggested nor wrote anything of the kind?

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By bogi666, March 24, 2010 at 5:01 am Link to this comment
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Ivtalon, FYI. The USG aid to Israel is $1000 per year for each Israeli which enables Israeli’s to have SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, that’s your tax monies. This has been the case for 30 years with commitments to Israel for the next 10 years. NOW WHY AREN’T YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT your taxes paying for the SOCIALIZED MEDICINE of Israeli’s? Instead you whine about Americans using some of your[I don’t pay taxes, legally, of course]their tax monies for their own benefit rather than the benefit of others, Israeli’s in this case. I give the Israeli government credit for looking out for their own citizens at the expense of others. Zionist chutzpah and gullible, ignorant illiterate Americans, while Jews treasure and encourage a well educated public.

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By bogi666, March 24, 2010 at 2:29 am Link to this comment
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Gppright young man, I disagree with just about everything you stand for, except Robinson’s censorship which he does when I point out that Obama is a Kenyan American rather than an African American. Those of us with European,white, ancestry are not referred to as european Americans. The reason I like to point Obama’s ancestry being that he just doesn’t have the victim attitude because he doesn’t share the heritage of slavery. AS for individualism, that’s an old Herbert Hoover quote, rugged individualism, just another phrase to create divisiveness in a society of the mindless, those who don’t know their, and/or the thoughts of others are not facts, but thoughts. The ability to discern thought from facts in mindfulness.

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By ofersince72, March 23, 2010 at 11:05 pm Link to this comment

of bigotry

it is ok to characture Palin in any manner

but not so with a dim, or it is bigotry.

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By christian96, March 23, 2010 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

Ivtalon——I don’t brand republicans as racist. I
brand them as ignorant, manipulative, deceptive,
greedy and self-centered.  I am not moving to
Venezuela.  I happen to love America and will fight
with all my mind to make it a true democracy instead
of the deceptive money oriented so-called democracy
we presently have.  Your “principle of individualism”
reflects your lack of intellectual capacity.  This
is not the United States of Individualism even though
selfish scum like yourself would like it to be. How
can people pay for their own health coverage when
the greedy corporations have shipped American jobs
overseas to take advantage of cheap labor(more
Republician greed)?  As far as people stealing from
your wallet, if things get bad enough people will
steal everything you have.  Ever consider that in that little pea brain of yours?

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By Go Right Young Man, March 23, 2010 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller, - “Slanting becomes you GRYM!”

I am a human being, my friend. Not unlike yourself and Mr. Robinson.

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My impression of you is that you would agree with me on my continuing comments every time Robinson opines this racist garbage if you were not so bent on being disagreeable with me.

There is next to nothing about any protest to date that has had anything, whatsoever, to do with the color of the president’s skin.  There is no more foolishness today than we all witnessed five, ten and twenty-five years ago in politics.

Mr. Robinson is making the protester’s issues about the president’s skin by highlighting a small fraction of whole of people.  I say it’s not only wrong but a sign of Eugene Robinson’s issues, unfortunately, being inflicted on others.

Feel free to show me where I am in error in this.  Otherwise we will simply disagree.

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By KDelphi, March 23, 2010 at 3:03 pm Link to this comment

Tea Party bigots, hateful GOP, focus on anything but the content of the awful bill, Dems.

If they had offered (or even allowed a vote on..) a Medicare for All, many people I know wouldve been in the streets confronting TPers..but no one wants to get out there and fight these crazy people for this crap.

Why does it not seem to occur to the MSm that the people who are doing/saying this stuff are certifiable? No, it must be everyone who opposes the bill because Obama is an Af Am..yeah, thats it.it cant be because the bill sucks. Anything but that

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By guntotinsquaw, March 23, 2010 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment
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I truly wonder, why, if you disagree with a policy your automatically racist…You see I am the extremist the progressives warn you about—I believe in the constitution…At a protest rally my niece held her sign- she chose it and made it- it stated a simple truth——to vote for a man because he is black is as racist as to NOT vote for a man because he black——simple truthful words. A woman approached and began to call her the typical…Racist, stupid, biggot etc. it went down hill from there. My beautiful niece turned and pulled her naturally curly hair from her face, looked down at this women from her 5’10” height, locked her chocolate brown eyes straight to the woman and smiled, then said “I’m more black than O’bama and even less white than he, as I am also native.” Not all tea partiers are ignorant racists, had we heard this small minded biggot, we would have corrected the dope and apologized for the stupidity. In every group you will have hand full of morons. A true constitutionalist believes in seeing beyond your color or sexual preference…who you choose to partner with is no-ones business and what color or religion is not of consequence, it is the actions of the individual. More importantly it is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.

ONE IF BY LAND

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By Leefeller, March 23, 2010 at 2:54 pm Link to this comment

Slanting becomes you GRYM!

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By KDelphi, March 23, 2010 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment

..and constantly talking about tea party bigotry does not a good bill make…there was a war protest and an immigration reform protest that day..I suppose the vote just happened to be planned for the weekend day…

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By Go Right Young Man, March 23, 2010 at 1:53 pm Link to this comment

“Tea Party Bigotry”

Leefeller,

If you would be so kind as to re-read my comments less your own personal slant?  I write what I mean and mean what I write. 

What I wrote has little to do with Mr. Robinson’s politics.  His politics is only involved to the extent that he takes um-bridge with the actions of some while excusing like actions of others he, yes, agrees with politically. - In other words; if Mr. Robinson takes offense with racial comments by one side of politics he must, therefor, take offense with others whom he happens to agree with politically when they display the same offense. 

Put yet another way; Mr. Robinson never once wrote a column calling Bush administration protesters bigots.  Even when a small handful of those protesters were calling Dr. Rice a Nigger and Gen. Powell Uncle Tom.

In this case it is Mr. Robinson who is making the issue about race.  He is being racists and displaying head-long political bigotry.

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As you well know I am not a party to the Tea Party movement.  I will, however, passionately defend their right to protest without being maligned simply for protesting.  Calling these particular protesters bigots is simply out of line. 

I took the exact same stand with protesters during the last administration.  It mattered none to me if I agreed with the protest’s agenda.

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By Big B, March 23, 2010 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment

Just so I understand, if a conservative nominates a minority for a position and a liberal opposes it, the liberal is a racist. And if a liberal nominates a minority and a conservative opposes it, he is a patriot.

See, this ditto head stuff is easy once you get you head right. Next you will understand that Latin americans don’t mind the word “spic”, and Jewish people live being called “hymie”.

Yup, that’s what the tea bagger movement is all about, enlightenment. Think about that next time you see a group of old people waving their teabagger banners, and screaming that they want the government to keep their hands out of their medical care, all the while carrying Medicare cards in their pockets.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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By Leefeller, March 23, 2010 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

Lets see if I get this right, Robinson is a bigot because: “Robinson spent years completely ignoring countless insults to people of color who happened to work with the previous administration”,  an administration who he did not agree with I might add.

So politically disagreeing by ignoring,  is the same as spitting on congress people and calling them N word as they head into congress?

Since I am unaware of these countless insults to people of color during the last administration. This must mean I too am a racist bigot as one likes to call them.

Though, I surely do not know every written peace by Robenson during the last administration nor this administration as suggested by GRYM.

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By lvtalon, March 23, 2010 at 11:30 am Link to this comment
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So this is what passes for serious thinking? An article devoted, ever so subtly, to branding Republicans as racists because of a few wackos. Do any of you leftists pay attention to the wackos on your side who call Republicans Nazis’s or spout off that racist Republicans want minorities to die quickly? Or are you all out to lunch? The whole bill is unconstitutional. The individual state legislatures, like Massachusetts, are where this should be taking place. Yeah, I know all the tripe about “well, if you think that then social security is unconstitutional too”. The point is that just because bad legislation has already passed DOESN’T MEAN YOU GET TO ENGAGE IN MORE OF IT! You like socialism? Move to Venezuela so the rest of us can enjoy our freedom and the principle of individualism. You do not get to re-write the Constitution whenever the hell you feel like it, but The Constitution means nothing to you leftists. All it did was create the government that Obama, Pelosi and Reid are using to impose their will.
YOU MARXISTS DISGUST ME! PAY FOR YOUR OWN HEALTH CARE! YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO STEAL MONEY FROM MY WALLET!

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By Go Right Young Man, March 23, 2010 at 11:01 am Link to this comment

Leefeller, - “GRYM, are you making one of those points again?”

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I call them as I see them, Leefeller.  Mr. Robinson is clearly a racist as he puts a TREMENDOUS amount of importance on the color of an individual’s skin. 

Robinson spent years completely ignoring countless insults to people of color who happened to work with the previous administration, however, he has spent the entire last year pointing out the few who insult individuals in the current administration.  This makes him a political bigot.

Mr. Robinson is a racists and a bigot.

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By christian96, March 23, 2010 at 10:42 am Link to this comment

I just got out of the hospital yesterday after
fighting asthma and the flu.  9 days in the hospital
taking breathing treatments every 4 hours is not
something I enjoyed.  I know many people are not
happy with it.  IT IS A BEGINNING.  Had we depended
upon the republicians we would have nothing.  Some
may find the following e-mail I just sent FOX News
interesting:

To: Fox News

Re:  Fox News Announcers

I find it rather pathetic the basic comment you could make during the signing of the Health Care bill was Vice-President Biden
whispering in Pres. Obama’s ear, “This is a big fucking deal!”  To those comments I would like to say to you puppets, “GO FUCK
YOURSELVES!”  God knows Fox News has FUCKED enough people. Do intellectuals in America a favor and remove Glenn
“Adolf” Beck from the airways.  In conclusion, you can remind your announcers to quit using code words like “The Americans.”
I believe even people with average intelligence can figure out there exists a wide variety of Americans.  In other words quit lying
and deceiving people.  Do you realize the Holy Bible states you can’t worship God and MONEY!

Dr. Parker

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By Clonakilty32, March 23, 2010 at 10:20 am Link to this comment
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The Tea Baggers were definitely showing their true character, racists, bigots and inbreds.

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By Jimnp72, March 23, 2010 at 9:35 am Link to this comment

fifty gigs blog nails it down nicely

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By Jimnp72, March 23, 2010 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

Some very low class pesons use obscenities on this site. You should go to Rush
Limbaugh’s site where you belong.
to all those viciously slamming the healthcare bill:

Gee I guess the new healthcare bill must really be evil for allowing little kids with
deadly diseases to get coverage when they could not before. And my daughter will
be able to be under my ins until she is 26 and hopefully well established. And
small businesses will get a substantial credit for hiring. Adults and kids can no
longer be dropped when they get a life threatening illness.
How evil are these things to the repugs and some here that the poor and the
vulnerable are finally getting a little piece of their pie.
Lucky anything passed at all with all of the vile republican obstructionism going
on.

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By canyon critter, March 23, 2010 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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i doubt there was any racism going on. i just watched the news there was also racially explosive letters and e-mails. lets see them!!!! as for obamacare clear govt takeover they are going to force you to buy insurance. this is going to work out well for insurance co and big govt where is the reform?  when has govt ever ran anything effeciently and under-budget? for the 30% who actually believe that we are going to get better healthcare for less money you are probably on drugs.

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By Leefeller, March 23, 2010 at 7:24 am Link to this comment

GRYM,

“desperately attempted” meaning like it did not work?

Maybe I missed it and did not have me ear to the ground, Robenson spat and yelled the N word at Condelzia Rice and Powell?  I just could have missed it?

Calling Robinson a bigot, i guess must mean he is one?

GRYM, are you making one of those points again?

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By Go Right Young Man, March 23, 2010 at 4:27 am Link to this comment

Mr. Robinson,

For a year now you have desperately attempted to make those who oppose the president’s agenda into racists.  Clearly it is you who is the racist.

How many times was Condoleeza Rice called the N-word?  How many times was Gen. Powell called an Uncle Tom?  How many democrats in the House and Senate opposed Miguel Estrada, and twisted his judicial record, simply for the offense of being a Bush nominee?  Where were you during those injustices?  The fact is you remained quiet and even defended the positions of those throwing the insults.

You are the bigot, Mr. Robinsosn.

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By John Kace, March 22, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Wasserman said ” This is one day that is going to be hard to forget.” The other dumbass said “This is one day when we were worth a damn.” Fuck you everyday bought and paid for hookers! A decent health care bill could have been: Every American will be covered head to toe medically for anything no matter what and will pay 15% of their wages for it. With any over-payment refundable upon their death. Instead we get mandatory health insurance convoluted through 2500 pages of bull-shit. Two sentence health-care. The only reason that sounds bad is that we are a country of prisons. We are not living in a democracy and the United States has never been a democracy. We are a constitutionally represented republic. Read BackwoodsHomeMagazine.com

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By ofersince72, March 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment

look what the great WAPO
did here…..it concentrated on a small
tea bag party…..
and as always….didn’t even mention the much bigger
protests going on in D.C.  this weekend….
THANKS AGAIN EUGENE..
keep that tea bag fire and scare going for your
corporate democrate friends !!!!!!!

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By ofersince72, March 22, 2010 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

Please do the math….

the real figures are in the 356 to 65
War Powers Bill that got voted down…

can anyone come up with the number of years that it will
take, never losing once in a primary election,(which in
itself is imposible) to overcome those odds?
and that is also going under the assumption that the
Dems won’t lose on seat to a repub.
Do the math there,....then take into consideration
any so called dem “progressive” in the primaries is going
to be out gunned in money about 1000 to 1. Then the
corporate media is going trounce on anyone candidate that
goes against a corporate Dem. Put on top of that a very
uninformed electorate,
It is hard to believe those that say we are able to
vote our way out of this mess by keeping the unproven
mentality of vote lesser than evil…

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By ofersince72, March 22, 2010 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment

Trouble is majority didn’ rule….

very few of the lawmakers are doing what they were
elected to do by the people.

What ruled was corporate money…..

right wing fascism is always a scare….
and that is exactly what this bill was…a corporate
sponsered bill to deflect the public’s outcry for
affordable, not for profit healthcare. that is the
definintion of fascism.
The Dems are going to start playing the same scare tactic
games that the pubs always use…..
vot for us cause it could be worse….i don’t but into it.

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By ofersince72, March 22, 2010 at 6:38 pm Link to this comment

i pesonally don’t blame Kucinach for the position
that the Democrat Party put him in,, damned if you do or
don’t…I sure can see how others would though since he
made the media circuit saying he wouldn’t support it.

i sure don’t go along with the notion anything is better
than nothing…...i guess i am a part of the everything
does suck crowd though….like the health care bill
that the public would be a whole lot better off without
rather than passing this very flawed bill just to preserve
a presidency…a bill that they had to put off until 2014
just to make sure it didn’t crash the presidency

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By FiftyGigs, March 22, 2010 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

Amen. Push onward.

For those who are trashing this historic effort
because the majority ruled, you’d better wake up and
realize that the premeditated lies, the obscenities,
the racism, the spitting, the name-calling, the
violence is just the start.

There is a real and profound fascist movement taking
root in this country. Open your eyes at what we’ve
witnessed these past few weeks. Majority rule under
attack. The President of the United States under
attack.

All this is being nurtured and fostered by a
valueless, anti-liberal, anti-American media culture
that believes it can generate money by claiming to
represent the heart of America without any obligation
to uphold the values that define America.

Conservative, fascist radicalism will only stop when
conservatives choose to stop it, and the media
doesn’t want them to stop. Neither does the
Republican Party.

So, we can fight in Congress, or we can literally
fight in the street. We don’t have any other choice.

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By balkas, March 22, 2010 at 6:09 pm Link to this comment

JDmystic,
i’m not sure i understood u. U have replied with a generalization and true or false answers do not pertain to such utterances.

To repeat: puting dwn rebellions by AWFUL THEM, the greatest crinimanal minds, has a connection to criminal minds in US denying people their medical care.
But u do have the right to think in an, what some people call, elementalistic way; i.e., that an event is not connected in way whatever with any other event that even occurred thousands of yrs ago.
But i do. Thanks for ur input! Bozh

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By Michael, March 22, 2010 at 5:54 pm Link to this comment
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Wow, so Democrats are called bad words and they’re heroes for passing a corporate give away.

Why does everyone prefer style over substance?

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By Leefeller, March 22, 2010 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment

The fact that congress passed anything is a positive move in my book, even if it is only a little ray of positive.  It seems many are so against Obama, they would hope that hope itself did would exist.

Everything sucks crowd, is becoming long of tooth, why do I suspect they may be getting checks from Fox?

Attacking Kucinich for voting for the bill seems way off base, most anyone should realize congress is not black and white, unless one is looking through teabag glasses.

Sure it is not a great win, get real, the Republicans are eating crow right now and it is a great pleasure to watch the buzzards feasting, enjoy it while the rays are available.

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By JDmysticDJ, March 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm Link to this comment

balkas

Your post was very eloquent. My only objection would be that there is no similarity between providing Health Care, and putting down peasant rebellions.

I’ll restrain myself, for the sake of civility.

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By ofersince72, March 22, 2010 at 3:46 pm Link to this comment

Eugene,  this one ought to get you a Pulitzer !!!

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By balkas, March 22, 2010 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment

Robinson`s understandings 1 are not my understanings 2.
My understanndings 2 come from widest look possible; stretches all the way to mesopotamian societies.

And lo and behold, everywhere i looked i found we have been ruled over by the greatest criminal minds.

And they have always and each time ‘succeded’. Did i ever think that the greatest criminal minds in US wld ever fail?

NO, they never hesitate or waver. They weigh risks when land grabbing. To ensure ‘success’ they attack the weakest, the loneliest.

There was not much risk taking in denying people their right to receive medical treatment, schooling, or information.
They knew all or most editors, collumnists, cia-fbi agents, army echelons, congress people, judiciary, actors, singers, educators, plutocrats + another 50 mn rabid USans wld demand that thse right not be returned to americans.

In short, the system won again. It cannot ever fail! I think that at what small, large, and largest criminal minds feared was not the expenditure on heatlth care- they know US can easily afford it- they have looked at this human right as a great peril to their evil system of governance and health care being only one but first major step for other rights and on the way to obtaining a timocratic democracy.

This is what they solely fear! They always have. Thus have suppressed any movement for amelllioration; putting dwn in blood thousands of peasant rebellions against their cruel rule! tnx

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By SoTexGuy, March 22, 2010 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

Robinson’s revisionist history? That big gavel should have burned Pelosi’s hands!

Sure thing the ‘party-ers’ are largely ignorant and grotesque.. Go take it up with them.. here we try to talk sense.. What’s Robinson’s excuse? His article is a whitewash of the sorry legislation and the twists and boondoggles it has gone through to be passed by the House.

I just saw an excellent piece on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman interviewing Kucinich over his decision to now back the bill, after flatly rejecting it a dozen times in the last year.. It was one of the few times I’ve seen him evasive, talking about priorities instead of principles and just generally searching and floundering for an explanation. That shows a lot right there. They put the screws to him.

Then came on Ralph Nader.. who did his best to show his respect for Mr. Kucinich while yet totally rejecting his decision to back this bill. Nader may have played the spoiler for Progressives in national politics once or twice but hand it to the guy for being consistent!

The big deal is this: with 80% or so of voting Democrats (and many others!) wanting a single-payer alternative to for-profit Insurance corporations.. and a Democratic majority in both the House and Senate thumbing their noses at us with this tragedy of a Bill.. What will happen in the next elections? Whether by design or just plain luck the liberal-progressive coalition is down for the count (though administration apologists and other Demo-happy-faces will not admit that).. mostly over this bill.. fractured and fractious.. pulling in all directions.

The grinning and rude nay-sayers on the other side of these arguments may very well just come in and pick up the reins..

I was and am an Obama supporter.. can I get out to vote for him or his party? It’s iffy..

Adios!

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By TAO Walker, March 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

“Obama’s epitaph….”?  Mr. Robinson, given his leanings, might want be a bit more careful about what he wishes-for.

“It’s not dark yet….but it’s gettin’ there.”

Hokahey!

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By JFoster2k, March 22, 2010 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

This is a big step in the right direction. Much more needs be done in reconciliation, but at least the majority of the citizens of this nation did not get undermined by the loud and foul “real Americans” to which the likes of Boehner, Beck and Palin pander.

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By rjg1971, March 22, 2010 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment

So this is the silver lining for liberal supporters
of this legislation. Some bigoted things were said by
right wing opponents of the legislation, so,
therefore, its passage is a good.

This legislation does not make health care a right.
It forces the working poor to buy private health
insurance. It’s nothing more than a massive hand out
to the insurance industry and an obscenely regressive
tax on the working poor.

Viva regressive taxation!

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By RdV, March 22, 2010 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment

This is basically the failed Republican plan instituted in Massachusetts that, for the past year. has been hughly unpopular—even in Mass. Now the corporate echo chamber is cheering and you think there is something to celebrate—scolding others who aren’t drinking the koolaid.
  It was a bad bill from the start—any attempts to improve it were squashed by the Whitehouse who conjured the stinking pile up behind-the-scenes with Big pharma and Insurance corps.
  You might as well be cheering for the bail-out of Wall Street.
  Christ, what dupes.

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By Rodger Lemonde, March 22, 2010 at 11:45 am Link to this comment

Onward to single payer!
To those who prayed this wouldn’t pass, your answer was
no. God can just say no too. Think twice about what you
pray for next.

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By tomack, March 22, 2010 at 10:56 am Link to this comment

I’ll second that request….one step at a time.

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By gerard, March 22, 2010 at 10:24 am Link to this comment

Health Care (sort of) at last! Won by six votes, I heard.  One was Kucinich.  The rest?  Republicans who had refused to come forward in earlier tallies and estimates?  Shows you something.

Now can we all just breathe deeply for a week or so before we start chewing Obama out again because he isn’t God?

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