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Syria Has Seen Similar Bloodshed BeforePosted on Jul 5, 2011By Robert Fisk This article originally appeared in The Independent. History comes full circle in Syria. In February 1982, President Hafez al-Assad’s army stormed into the ancient cities to end an Islamist uprising. They killed at least 10,000 men, women and children, possibly 20,000. Some of the men were members of the armed Muslim Brotherhood. Almost all the dead were Sunni Muslims, although even senior members of the Baath party were executed if they had the fatal word Hamwi—a citizen from Hama – on their identity cards. “Death a thousand times to the hired Muslim Brothers, who linked themselves to the enemies of the homeland,” Assad said after the slaughter. Years later a retired Dutch diplomat, Nikolaos Van Dam, wrote a detailed study of the Baath party and its Alawi leadership, The Struggle for Power in Syria, and stated presciently of the Hama massacre, that “the massive repression… may very well have sown the seeds of future strife and revenge.” Never a truer word—and if the activists’ estimate that there were 250,000 citizens on the streets of Hama at the weekend to demand the end of the Assad family’s rule is correct, then the seeds of future strife were indeed planted in the historic city’s soil 29 years ago. I remember Hama’s first siege, when I managed to enter the city by driving down the international highway and getting right in among the Syrian tanks—which were shelling the most beautiful mosque in Hama—because two army officers asked my driver to drop them off beside the river Orontes, where their units were fighting the brotherhood. The soldiers gave me and my driver tea as we took in this terrible scene. Advertisement The situation was similar [Tuesday], after 500 troops surged into the city, wounding at least 20 after opening fire. But it’s not an Islamic uprising this time—the insurgents of Hama were killing the families of Baath party members in 1982—but the very name of the city sounds like a tolling bell in the history of the Assads’ rule. In those days, Assad let the press into Damascus—which is how I drove to see friends in Aleppo and return via Hama—but this time the regime has simply closed the frontier to almost all reporters. In 1982, there was no YouTube, no Twitter, there were no mobile phones. Not a single photograph of the dead was ever published. Some of Syria’s tanks now appear to be brand new imports from Russia. The problem is that the people’s technology is new too.
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By Go Right Young Man, July 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment
This was supposed to read:
I know first hand that very few of these types of atrocities, even today, are reported to the world.
Report thisBy Go Right Young Man, July 6, 2011 at 4:48 pm Link to this comment
My near fifteen years in the Middle East -nearly eight years in Iran- taught me the dichotomy of the entire region.
Some of the most hospitable people on the planet live under the most oppressive tyranny. The absolute “maleness” of the region seems to breed the most horrific violence amongst their own. I know first hand that very few of these types of atrocities, even today, go unreported.
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As a Westerner in Iran, Jordan, Kuwait and the UAE I was showered with kindness and curiosity. Even while sometimes huge crowds chanted “Death to America”. “Death to Israel”.
Iranians, for example, LOVE the United States and Americans while simultaneously harboring a healthy anger over how the U.S.fails to fight for their rights. How the U.S. lends its support for those who oppress them. I was completely taken aback to learn that so many deeply expect the U.S. to come to their assistance. - Western liberal media teaches the exact opposite. In the Western media world we’re told Iranians hate the United States and hate Americans for being, well, American. I can attest that that narrative is completely wrong. I find a great deal more Americans who hate America.
Very few on this Web space will be willing to accept the most shocking question I was asked by Iranians after the “Iraq invasion”. - When will Bush, yes Bush, come here to remove our leaders for us? - I was surprised hundreds of times by the question (keeping in mind I was in the homes of the more “liberal minded” Iranians).
These people understood all too well that if “Bush” were to invade Iran people would die. But, they believed, those who would die would be those who oppress them. They all seemed to have great confidence, regardless of my words of caution, that every bomb would land on their intended targets. That belief was nearly unshakable. - They saw it in Western films.
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An ironic dichotomy:
Death To America! When will America help us too?
Report thisBy balkas, July 6, 2011 at 6:19 am Link to this comment
mosheism [talmudism/judaism], christianity, and mohammedanism
contain largely or solely interpretative utterances, commands,
angry/hateful statements, enormous number of contradictions,
‘promises’ [it can be proven that all promises are brazen lies], ill
wishes, etc.
to make matters worse, overwhelming number of the followers of the
three major cults vote for personal supremacists and in actuality obey
sacerdotal class and not ‘god’.
there is nothing wrong with believing; ie, conjecturing there is god 1,
Report this2, 3… one for each person or a personal god of own choosing.
[i am choosing one for myself, but not ever an org]
but that’s not what happens—pious people simply obey the worst
charlatans; usurpers of equality, justice, peace, etc. tnx bozhidar
balkas vancouver
By doughboy, July 6, 2011 at 4:47 am Link to this comment
Mr Fisk less than balanced reporting is par for the course. Hama was not the
Report thisbeginning of the situation, only a continuation of years of Muslim Brotherhood
attacks on the government. It was more akin to a civil war than a revolt. Getting
support from neighbors who wished the fall of Assad to foreign players seeking to
weaken Damascus, the MB was well armed and organized. Many of the same areas
that are fighting Bashar Assad were the same ones that fought Hafez Assad. With
their declared position of no negotiations with Bashar Assad, the protestors will
only escalate their confrontation. They are encouraged by the world wide attention,
and probably outside support. Civil war and/or foreign military intervention seems
to the goal of these individuals.
By PatrickHenry, July 6, 2011 at 3:44 am Link to this comment
Same shit, different century.
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