I think Armando Gomez makes a reasonable point.  I also
have reservations about the description of Beck as a
‘nihilist’ - this seems a little throwaway and
unconsidered as the same article notes that he is a
Mormon and extremist libertarian.  Idiot: yes, self-
contradictorily idealistic: hell yes, but he is not a
nihilist as he does not believe that human values are a
self-deceptive defence against the truth of life’s
godlessness and meaninglessness.

Interesting, how well propagandists misuse
terminology and information. 

Israeli propagandists identify themselves by
their historical pattern
of scapegoating, or killing the messenger.
Their demanding to have the dominant opinion is noticable. 
Regardless of how well-informed a person might be,
propaganda continues to be information that is either
false or vastly distorted, as are the thinking
patterns of propagandists.  Of course, AIPAC pimps
are good at their distortions, regardless of how
distorted, wrong or improper it is.  They continue
the “Heil und Sieg” pattern so well established by
one, A. Hitler.

You got it cyrena!

http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2010/03/21/fait-diver-couth/

By Inherit The Wind, March 21 at 8:05 am #

Read yesterday’s news: See what happened outside the Capitol yesterday with Tea-baggers chanting “Nigger! Nigger! Nigger!...” at Black Congressmen, spitting on one of them.  And calling Barney Frank “Faggot!”

The chaff is stripped away.  THIS is what the Tea-Party movement is: nothing but a racist backlash against a Black President.

~*~*~

Therein lies the reality ITW, and that’s why it isn’t a surprise that these tea partiers evolved from former Ron Paul supporters. And now of course Ron Paul denounces them, but they are the same ones who supported him and his racist/separatist ideology from the git-go.

drbhelthi is running for Vice President with Orly Taitz at the top of the ticket.

The alleged “backlash” against the Hussein Obama
presidency consists of much more than his partial
Negroid heritage.  Who fails to realize that he had
no control over his parentage? 
Events over which he had and has control, but which
his staff distort or disguise are a major issue. 
Such as the various names he has used, his long-term
affiliation with the US CIA and the Osama bin Laden
fraud, the abiding question of his land of birth, and
the lack of documentation of his alleged “scholastic
achievements,” his rise into lawyerdom via his wife´s
shoestrings and basically, fictitious campaign
promises. 
Some propagandists misuse the “tea party” topic to
distract from basic, abiding, factual issues that
CIA-types continue to try to cover up.  Like the
genuine identities of the almost one thousand NAZIs
that were secretively imported into the US via
Operation Paper Clip, 1945-1948.  Only a few, such as
LTC Otto Skorzeny, and John Demjanjuk have
been publicized.  The CIA and affiliated US and
foreign Government agencies churn out falsified
passports and other documents, with perfection. 
Many, with publicized propaganda to coincide.  Such
as the fictitious death of LTC Otto Skorzeny in Spain
in 1975.

Sounds like a false flag incident to me, knowing full well the press would report it.

Since the Tea Party took over Ron Pauls disgruntled masses and have gotten rid of him, all types of the Cheney and Palin worshippers have infiltrated what was once an aspiring movement.

As Ron Paul stated:  “This tea tastes funny”.

They’re “The Greatest Generation”  we’ve heard so much about—fact white racist homophobes.

Read yesterday’s news: See what happened outside the Capitol yesterday with Tea-baggers chanting “Nigger! Nigger! Nigger!...” at Black Congressmen, spitting on one of them.  And calling Barney Frank “Faggot!”

The chaff is stripped away.  THIS is what the Tea-Party movement is: nothing but a racist backlash against a Black President.

Using the word decency in the same article with Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, etc. constitutes an oxymoron. With the accent being on moron.

So what you are saying is as long as the nutters refrain from attacking the centers of present status quo power such as “the United States Army” and “other august persons and institutions” they’ll be free to continue doing as they will? I agree with that.

It’s generally a better strategy to attack the politically and economically powerless. Notice they never address the elephant in the room which is the enormous corporate powers that runs the country and funds their work. Maybe they are getting to the point where they believe the power that backs them is great enough to destroy the other powerful social institutions you mention. Anyway they are dipping their toes in those waters and seeing how it plays out.

Hey, AuntieBec”  You won, even though you may not feel like you did.

They (he) set it up as a confrontation because that’s what he wanted it to be. You resisted by frustrating his intention, creating a situation where there was no place for him to go.  Furthermore, others were present to notice his behavior compared to yours. 

The wife with the sun glasses was probably very grateful to you for not “making a scene” in public again, and arousing his internal demons which she would have to deal with at home.  Sad, sad story.

But also ridiculous—somewhere between laughter and tears, as so much of life today.

Beck equates social justice, progressivism, liberalism, socialism, naziism, maoism,
communism, and fascism because according to the principles of the John Birch
Society and his philosophical hero Cleon Skousen, they’re all of the exact same
stripe - COLLECTIVISM.
THAT right there is the queen bee in his bonnet. That’s his Grand Theory of
Everything. 
Check it out:  Daily Kos: COLLECTIVISM UNITE!

By AuntBec, March 19 at 9:46 pm #

First off, you called him a man which in fact he was male.  Big difference.

Thanks David, but as a female, I’ve not always found that to be the case.  In fact, I suspect that if a male had gotten out of my vehicle, he never would have been approached in the first place.  It’s just “one of those things” I’ve dealt with on more than one occasion.

Don’t be scared, Becky. These creeps are cowards. Next time look them straight in the eye and say “Oh Yeah? Well FUCK YOU!!!!”

They’ll vanish like spit on a griddle.

“It’s a republic, if you can keep it.”  But maybe you can’t.

I can give you a personal example of how the noble followers of Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, etc. will react to someone who disagrees with them.
I have a bumper sticker which reads “Rush Limbaugh does not speak for me.”  As I walked into the local grocery store, I was approached by a man and his wife who had apparently followed me into the store.  This man wanted me to know vociferously that Rush, Glenn, Sean, and Michael DID BY GOD speak for him and that President Obama and people like myself were nothing more than fu**ing idiots.
At first I was going to challenge him on his assertions, but then I saw his wife cowering behind him hidden beneath large sun glasses.  There were also three other women getting their carts whom I looked toward for a little character support, at which point they snickered at me and just stood there.  My knees turned to jello, my heart started racing, and I got my butt out of that store.  Suffice it to say, these people scare the hell out of me - but I live in the USA and I’ll be damned if the bumper stickers come off!
Peace - Becky

The Big ‘To Be‘  empirePie   March 19th, 2010

Yo!...half breed cracker don.
Half black don’t undo your wrong.

‘The wages of sin’ won’t heal your frames.
The dogs of war are just the same.
The never ending game of pomp and power are getting lame;
bomb rebuild and mask the plunder,
do it like the baby bomber boomers,
consume.. consumed.. consumer

We’re all little Eichmans now,
to feed the sacred cow…say: ‘DOW’
no bottom line… for here or now

Ah!.. rapture for the empty tomb ers

I’m sure we all agree
what’s in it for me
is the big ‘to be’
no bottom line… for here or now

Does the flat line know
what’s white or black?

I had not expected that what i say on TD wld be accepted by most posters.

Most ‘jews’ and so called democrats abhore and shiver in fright over what i say.
Or to be more exact, over what WE [some of us] SAY. Actually, much of what i say is not mine but belongs to sages from all cultures.

The stronger asocialistic a person is, the madder s/he gets at what we say.
That’s why they wld like to ban a label like a timocratic democracy.

When was the first or last time dems, repubs, media have used this label?
I have introduced that label for kids and not for adults.
With 98% of US pop being [un]wittingly, but strongly homicidal and fascist against ‘alien’ pop, i have no time to waste on them.

I am actually pleasantly surprised that i have not been kicked out from this site. I had been banned from several sites! Apparently, the crew reading the posts do not censure anyone. Thanks a lot, editors! tnx

@Balkas

Only if I was wrong, old boy…

They aren’t “crazies” they are revolutionaries who want another kind of country, one that never existed here but they will adjust it & the history to fit it.

It is a conspiracy! They all one many things in common and that is how they are going about it. Whatever they disagree with is trivial to what they loath about us. They want an unfettered corporate theocracy in place or our present inverted totalitarian republic/empire hybrid we have now. First destroy then rebuild in their own image in its place. Shock Doctrine via Machiavelli for Disaster Capitalism right here nationally.

Narcissism of course.

Jon Stewart deserves a Pulitzer for his Beck take-down.

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It is surprising how someone will pay billions for the mentally sick to sprew out what they do, and all the republicans who do not think for themselves believe every word.

Hidflect,
yes, i was 99.99% aware that u were deliberaltely insulting.

hello again. blogosphere is getting crowded, i
thumbed another one up there. someone’s avatar
reminded me of the original “Hitchhiker’s Guide To
The Galaxy”. the remake 5 years ago, i wouldn’t even
watch it. the original was a masterpiece of forced
acting, of original science fiction material, with a
low budget. amazing concept, that our planet just
happened to be in the way of a new interstellar
expressway, and had to be cleared from the path.
great fun with the earfish translator. crazycon
shame, that the avator only takes a tiny amount of
bits, or i would be happy to upload a picture.
balkas, you do not experience the deviltry of Goldman
Sachs, or you would know why we are invading Yemen.
we are all about shareholder interests, ideology
ahead of personal human interest, and world control.
it’s just business. let me be clear. we control the
development of dollars around the world. we generate
the dollars, and whomever is in power doles them out
as they deem fit. smear campaigns such as this, when
ineffective, result in compounding publicity: which
translates into revenue growth, so pity the fool whom unsuccessfully smears. Mr. Beck is enormously
popular, and the only way for him is ...down from the
mountain. government could sober up over night, and
nobody would have reason to watch his shew.

That picture of Beck reminds me of the Bug guy in the Men in Black.

@balkas

Just messing with ya…

I can’t believe all of you are worried about some radio guy (who probably tells his listeners to seek, study and think for themselves about 20 to 30 times during his 3 hour show!)and not worried about a President that openly admits to not caring about the policies and procedures of the government? Get real!!!

My experience with rightwing radicals has taught me that ideologues who play on the fears of uninformed people are trying to intimidate, not to inform or educate. They hope to prevent resistance by instilling fear, and they increase their numbers and influence by perpetuating sound and fury.

In every case in my experience they shriveled and withdrew if people faced them down directly and showed no fear, but on the contrary showed a calm open-ness to discussion, not inviting argument or diametrical challenge or showing anger.

Of course one person’s experience is limited, and of course once these groups get sufficiently wound up and hysterical, they are not so easily dissuaded. But at heart they feel ignorant and are nursing grievances they believe are justified and resentments they feel are aimed at them.  They are defensive about their own intellectual resources which limits them to mean jibes and threats of violence—unless they attract large numbers of people and find a spokesperson to follow, at which point they become really dangerous, though not necessarily politically effective. 

I don’t know what good it does to say these things, but I think action based on counter-rage will feed their own anxieties and make them more defensive and vicious.  It is very easy to be against something and very hard to be for something better.

My experience with rightwing radicals has taught me that ideologues who play on the fears of uninformed people are trying to intimidate, not to inform or educate. They hope to prevent resistance by instilling fear, and they increase their numbers and influence by perpetuating sound and fury.

In every case in my experience they shriveled and withdrew if people faced them down directly and showed no fear, but on the contrary showed a calm open-ness to discussion, not inviting argument or diametrical challenge or showing anger.

Of course one person’s experience is limited, and of course once these groups get sufficiently wound up and hysterical, they are not so easily dissuaded. But at heart they feel ignorant and are nursing grievances they believe are justified and resentments they feel are aimed at them.  They are defensive about their own intellectual resources which limits them to mean jibes and threats of violence—unless they attract large numbers of people and find a spokesperson to follow, at which point they become really dangerous, though not necessarily politically effective. 

I don’t know what good it does to say these things, but I think action based on counter-rage will feed their own anxieties and make them more defensive and vicious.  It is very easy to be against something and very hard to be for something better.

His face in the picture says it all.
Nah, Dont think he’d be elected pres-he too ugly to vote for. Sara the moose
killer is a lot purtier and my bet is on her.

anonymous,

I enjoy some of your poetry. except this time not enlightening like your poem “Dried Apple Pies”.

“alcoholics are big fat liars, too”

As a person who enjoys his beer and a frequent Tequila, may I take exception to the quote above? I may not quite be the textbook alcoholic, but I am clearly not big or fat and only lie when it may prove useful.

If one is to be a liar, they should not try lying like Glen Beck, who seems much poorer at it than George Bush was. When I was growing up, our church priest would always tell us “lying will make your hair fall out, or… was was he referring to something else?

Those are imaginary duelling stars.

On the same order as Liz Cheney’s imaginary penis.

Last night Beck claimed the Pres was abandoned as a child first by his marxist father and then by his marxist mother (so she could take courses in marxism) and was raised by his marxist grandparents who took him to the Little Red Church which Beck labeled as a “well-known marxist” entity.  I guess Beck left out eating marxist cereals and drinking marxist kool-aid.  Beck says the Pres is not an evil guy - just can’t help being a marxist.
  I guess Beck just can’t help being a cultist false-conspiracy monger - it’s in his own upbringing.  There are no longer any limits on what a TV broadcaster will say. 
  I recommend that Beck stick to conspiracies about movie personalities and alien babies - he will increase both his accuracy and his personal appeal.

For Liz Cheneys way of thinking, her father Dick is exactly the type of person she claims to be fighting against for the so called best interest of the American people. Really. Dick Cheney aided and abetted enemies of the American people when he forced our military to stand done and not to become airborne and intercept the missiles that were headed to the Pentagon. By his interference Dick undermined the safety of this country and put up obstacles to hinder our military. Dick, along with G.W. and their inner group of cronies all fall into that category of the rodeo clown, running interference to try to side track the truth from coming out by the fact they cleared tons and tons of evidence from the crash sites, much of it the same day of the attacks and then by hindering investigations into the 9-11 event for years, while they hid and disposed evidence and lied about the rest of it to the point of almost 1000 lies to involve America in the illegal war in Iraq.

So if Ms. Cheney, Bill K. and the like want to truly “Keep America Safe” an oxymoron to begin with, they need to look no further than those closest to them.

Glenn Beck is a Nazi street brawler with dueling scars on his cheeks.  He will throw university professors off balconies and shove you and your children into gas chambers.  He will not think twice about doing so.  There is nothing - nothing - so special about the United States that would prevent him or someone like him from coming to power.  The government of this nation is totally and hopelessly corrupt and our decline into criminality and decrepitude is therefore assured.  When things eventually get bad enough, the foolish, poorly educated and poorly informed people of this gasping, wheezing nation may very well freely elect Beck or someone like him to the presidency.

hidflect,
i always acqnowledge responses to my posts. I also re-explain the message sent. In ur case i do not, because i do not understand what u have written.
But please don’t ask personal questions. It is the message that matters and whether u have received it or not. tnx

There are a number of boycotts already in pogress. Beck can no longer get first rate products and services advertised on his show. FOX absorbs the loss.

Seriously, we should all chip in and boycott all the products advertised on Fox and write or phone Fox and tell them “Glenn Beck made me do it,” and explain why.  Next, tell all your friends to do the same, and why.  Last, but not least, send a donation to Amy Goodmanl’s program Democracy Now.

We should all chip in and send Glenn Beck a case of booze.

If we don’t discuss him and what he says and is doing then it is helping him. We aren’t helping him now. The reich wing is and pay dearly for it. Few sponsors, so the rest is just paid for because they have a “good thing” going and want to keep it up. Ignoring him doesn’t help us just him.

We are in a very unhealthy society and we see what happens when extremists do become center stage—-they can take over like they did in Italy, Spain, Russia and Germany in the 1920’s-1930’s. [It almost happened to us in 1934!]

We can only hope that our culture isn’t too ill in order to let these sick puppies die of their own toxins. If not we are in for a world of hurt.

Right on, gerard.  However, when it comes to the majority being well educated and more importantly “have enough accurate information”...I’m afraid it’s not available - at least if the majority is getting its info from the MSM.

In fact, outright lies hardly ever get challenged by the spam-heads playing interviewer on the nightly news.  In fact, because they don’t challenge, the MSM spam-heads are actually perpetuating the lies, even giving them legs on the way to becoming the truth.

peterj:
“Alcoholics, like Cokeheads, lose their regard for facts, for truth: it becomes unimportant to their lives so they lie, whenever convenient, always in the hope of being admired and perhaps scoring a reward fix.”

So…

You’re an alcoholic, and, well, see your own quote.

@Balkas

You don’t need “knowledge”. Just deductive logic. e.g.

Your English… lived in London. Probably work in the finance industry? Enjoys red wine…  over 35 yrs old… Have a degree (obviously). Write a couple more sentences. I’ll get the rest.

Damn all biocidal, homicidal, and suicidal democracies; instead, let’s have the timocracies; sans an arcanum [a special knowledge for a few]

Surely, at least a few people must possess the knowledge why US still occupies afgh’ and iraq. So, why special knowledge for just a few people?

Or, if assuming, that nobody knows why US invaded afpak and iraq, then we wld still have a lawlessness-chaos instead a healthy society or system of rule!

Or, do some people have the arcane knowledge of why US is waging so many wars, but dare not or are forbidden to share this knowledge with the rest of americans? tnx

Every time Glenn Beck is discussed, he wins. He is the Lady Gaga of politicking. An endless attention seeking extremist. I doubt he cares one single iota about his topics. He merely identified the right-wing as the most vociferous bunch to appeal to with the most money. He knows the people on the left are too crafty to fall for his appallingly glib schtick. Home schooled bigots and idiot sons with large trust funds are an easier target.

A quote from a previous post: “I dislike the comparison of Beck and McCarthy thatuses the phrase ‘..a fellow alcoholic’.  Although true, the use of that information is another cheap trick to employ emotion instead of logic to make the case. “

Fine sentiment, but far removed from reality. Alcoholics, like Cokeheads, lose their regard for facts, for truth: it becomes unimportant to their lives so they lie, whenever convenient, always in the hope of being admired and perhaps scoring a reward fix.

I know: I used to compete against fishes in the amount of drink passing through me. And ever since sobering up and staying that way, almost 20 years now, I have stuck by my resolution of avoiding practicing alcoholics and coke druggies. And saved myself a lot of pain by doing that.

So, poster, don’t do the p.c. thing by pooh-poohing every sad truth.

But in a healthy society, such figures cannot cross a final threshold of decency without jeopardizing

The key phrase of course is ” healthy society”.  If Mr.Conasen believes that is the case in Amerika he is as delusional as Beck. Glenn Beck and his ilk are going nowhere- they will be around and growing. There will be a coup in this country but it will be from the extreme right. Get ready.

I pray you are right. The moose-killin’ Tea Partiers are braying like the savage
dogs they are to return to power so they can continue to profit off of chaos and
misery
If only more people indeed were willing to drop their thick coats of ignorance and
prejudice, then maybe they would learn how evil these goons and their fellow
obstructionist repugs actually are.

Cheney and Beck, et al, are dogmatic, and as such are
exclusively concerned with the dogma.  There is a
difference between dogma and truth.  If one is
sincere in a search for truth, one strives to avoid
cheap, fallacious arguments. However, the search for
truth is a rare value in our culture.  The search for
truth has,in many cases, been perverted into shrill
caterwauling, whose only purpose is to make noise.

I dislike the comparison of Beck and McCarthy that
uses the phrase ‘..a fellow alcoholic’.  Although
true, the use of that information is another
cheap trick to employ emotion instead of logic to make the
case.

Sad to say, there are always a minority of “crazies” in every society noisily advocating some divisive policy based on fear with undercurrents of violence.
  The thing to emphasize, however, is that in an educated and well-informed society their aims never influence the majority of citizens. Instead, their ideas die a natural death. This means the majority has to be well enough educated and have enough accurate information to resist fanatical preachments.