At risk of sounding like an “Oh, so tough” 2nd amendment hugging wingnut I can pretty much predict that should the reactionaries overturn the truly needed aspects of health care reform it could become awfully unhealthy for them at more than the ballot box!

It seems to me, that the republicans are not as imperiled by repealing Obamacare, as is suggested here. Examine so-called Obamacare, and it’s hardly what it pretends to be.  There is nothing “Obama” about it.  It provides very modest gains for common folk, and huge profits for the insurance companies.  I may be wrong, but the meager gains we are promised by the adminstration, could easily have come about under a republican adminstration, especially if the insurance companies were assured of what they
were also promised. 

If I offer John a thousand dollars, if he agrees to give sick people 10 dollars, of course John’ll agree to such a deal.  The only other proviso is that the sick people receiving the 10 dollars, will be told how wonderful and revolutionary it is, that they’re getting the 10 dollars.  Needless to say, not a word will be uttered about the 990 dollars John sticks in his pocket.

I have been a full time 24/7 activist for 41 years. Because of the number of people, because of the failure of public education and many other factors we as a society have pass the point of no return ie the law of diminishing return. The only thing left to do is allow the Republicans and the tea party people do everything that they want.  Get rid of all medicate, medicare and health care. When people start dying (collateral damage) all over the place, especially the elders of the Republican Party and the tea beggars then we will able to get what all people have earned by being citizens of the United States.  Other wise stop wasting you time with worries because nothing is going to change.  Its only going to get worse. So the sooner the better.

THE GOVERNMENT IS STUPID, ASKED GOLDMAN SACHS EVERYONE IS ABLE TO BE BOUGHT.  SO FIRE THEM ALL.

Take the alleged “Health Care Bill” which is nothing but a tax bill and SHOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE ONE TO RUN HEALTH CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE SCHMUCKS IN GOVERNMENT NEED TO BE FIRED: END THE EDUCATION DEPT, FCC, DEA, END THE ENERGY DEPT, CUT BACK HALF THE FBI BY ENDING THE DRUG WAR, END THE EPA, END THE EDUCATION DEPT OH I SAID THAT, END THE WARS, END THE GOVERNMENT THE WAY WE KNOW IT AND GO BACK THE THE 1910’S WHEN GOVERNMENT JOB IS TO PROTECT PROPERTY AND CONTRACTS.  LET’S HAVE A CONGRESS AND NAVY AND THAT IS IT.  LET’S THROW ALL THE SPY AGENCIES IN TOO.  I DON’T KNOW WHY WE HAVE A SEC, FOR WHAT???????? “GOLDMAN SACHS FRIENDS”

NEVER-MIND LETS JUST HAVE THE GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE INTO THE GROUND, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR IMBECILES.

OH OH GET RID TO THE COMMERCE CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION.  ADD ONE THAT SAYS IF YOU PASS A LAW OUTSIDE THE POWERS GRANTED, YOU DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH BY BEING DIPPED IN HOT TAFFY OR CHOCOLATE.

And the last paragraph of a one-page warning to the Tea Party from the Union of Concerned Scientists:

“The founding fathers were suspicious of standing armies. They would be horrified to see how their beloved country has become a government of the people for the defense contractors. If you want to take your country back, you have to take it back from General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed, Halliburton, Bechtel, and their errand boys and girls in Congress, too.”

Not that they will listen. It’s too sciemtific.
However it deserves wide distribution. For the entire letter, see Counterpunch today.

mitch mcconnel says that repeal of ‘Obamacare’  “is what the american people
want. “
I am tired of this fascist jackass telling me what I want. What I really want is to see
him drown his fat ass in the nearest lake.
Obstructionist p***k that he is.

Health care reform shouldn’t be finished, although it appears that the progressive movement is done with it.

Apparently, progressives have decided reform was a failure, and are pulling back, leaving a few advocates to try and defend against the coming conservative onslaught.

We shouldn’t be defending anything. We should be out there pushing further reforms. That age 26 limit? Push it to 29. That level on insurance profit? Cut it back another 1%.

Trim the margins of the issue until health insurance proves to be not worth it to insurance companies. Consider it our Operation Rescue for health, a path to a single payer system. No muss. No fuss. And everyone will be grateful.

If the progressive movement wants to be effective at anything, it has to become more effective tactically. If progressives want a true movement, they have to move forward, instead of retreating. And almost always that means incremental improvements.

Progressives seem stuck on a vision of a Utopian society that will suddenly bloom into being, only needing the right Messiah, Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, someone to snap a finger and make it so.

That won’t ever happen. Because you are the government.

One word: Veto.

If that isn’t enough, our problems are far deeper than the HC bill.

about structure of society and/or governance i see only two societal and
governmental structures that we can develop to their final stage: an idyllicly
timocratic-egalitarian one and an antipodal one to the idyllic society.
but, in order not to repeat this, i call the first one communist and the latter
fascist.
and the fascist being with us for at least 8k yrs and communist probably even
now not anywhere to find.

it may take centuries or even millennia to raise humans again. so, the
onepercenters need not worry about being deposed for at least century.
for it is fun and games ruling non-humans manufactured by clerico-noble class
of lowlife.

make’em inhuman, and u got slaves forever!

i evaluate as mythological that repubs exist apart from dems. or that either wing
of one party functions apart from 12 or is it 120 uncles who run america. or
that uncles wld do what they do if u.s. constitution does not commands it?
for if constitution is holy, so is everything u.s. does. and that is egzactly what the ruling class thinks!

for how else is one going to explain the fact that u.s.—which always waged
wars, poverty, and ignorance—is now waging them with more vigor than ever,
unless the interpreters of u.s. constitution [120 uncles, headed by sam and
moshe] command them?

for how can an inanimate piece of paper, dead words, written by dead men wage
poverty, etc? it seems to me that either the livingdevil is doing all that or living
people!
and how can one wage wars of aggression, unless one first wages ignorance,
poverty, uncooperation, meritocracy?