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President Bachmann: Another Mideast Messiah

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Posted on Aug 15, 2011
AP / Charlie Neibergall

By Juan Cole

Michele Bachmann narrowly won the Iowa straw poll this past weekend, ending the presidential bid of her fellow Minnesotan, Tim Pawlenty, and positioning herself as a serious contender for the presidency of the United States. Although her chances of winning a general election seem low, it is time to review her foreign policy stances. The little that can be gleaned from her positions is self-contradictory, going back and forth between isolationism and militarism. But the militarism seems to trump other values for her, suggesting she could easily be captured by the neoconservatives.

Bachmann made waves in June when she said in an interview, “I’m tired of Afghanistan and Iraq, too. I think we need to get out. I think Afghanistan is—on many, many levels, it doesn’t seem we’re gaining any ground. I want to reduce U.S. exposure in Afghanistan. So, let’s get them [U.S. troops] out as quickly as we can.” This quote is often now taken out of context, and in conjunction with her opposition to the NATO intervention in Libya, to suggest that she is a neo-isolationist.

But other statements make it clear that Bachmann is actually no more eager to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq than are the Joint Chiefs of Staff—that, indeed, she would defer to them and let them set the pace: “I don’t think it’s fair for Congress members to usurp our decision-making over that of the generals on the ground. It’s very important that the generals and also the intelligence-gathering sources get that information up to the commander in chief, whether it’s George Bush or whether it’s Barack Obama.” She concluded her remarks about getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan by saying, “But at the same time, I don’t want to tell the generals when they’re going to get out. That really needs to be the experts.”

The cynical could easily conclude that Bachmann wants to have it both ways, attempting to appeal at the same time to the hawks and to the isolationists. By expressing her war fatigue and simultaneously deferring absolutely to the officer corps, she gives herself an out if she wants to prolong the wars indefinitely. Worryingly, she seems not to understand or value the principle of civilian control over the military, ceding decision-making to the Pentagon.

Bachmann’s caution on the wars is not exemplified in her other foreign policy positions, which have an often messianic overtone. She has lambasted the Obama administration for not taking a stronger stance against Iran, which she characterizes as having announced an intention to bomb Israel (it has not). She has praised the opposition Iranian political cult, the People’s Holy Warriors (Mojahedin-e Khalq or MEK), which has been listed for some years by the State Department as a terrorist organization (and rightly so).

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Bachmann recently alleged that Iran had been “delivered a nuclear warhead” (this assertion, like many of Bachmann’s bromides, is simply untrue). That Bachmann would be a hawk on Iran, favoring at least covert intervention, probably via the MEK, and perhaps even military action, is clear from her speeches on the subject.

Bachmann does not have so much a policy toward Israel as a posture of obeisance. She told the Republican Jewish Coalition of Los Angeles in February 2010:

I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States. … [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.

Bachmann appears to believe that God’s blessings on Abraham were actually intended for the Likud Party of Benjamin Netanyahu in contemporary Israel. This theology of Israeli infallibility probably was influenced by Jan Markell of Olive Tree Ministries, with which Bachmann has had a long relationship. Christian Zionists’ fondness for Israel is bittersweet, since it is wrought up with a belief that the end of the world is around the corner, at which time Jews will become Christians.

Her religious doctrine—that not standing 100 percent with Tel Aviv policy would bring curses upon the United States—may in part have underlain her sharp reaction to President Obama’s call in June for Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians on the basis of 1967 borders plus territorial swaps (a longstanding U.S. position). She protested:

America has stood with Israel since President Harry Truman recognized Israel a mere 11 minutes after Israel became a state in 1948. But during his tenure as president of the United States, President Obama has initiated a policy which shows contempt for Israel’s concern and safety. In an era dubbed the “Arab Spring” we have seen increased volatility in the Middle East region, and President Obama has only added to the heightened hostility by calling on Israel to return to the 1967 borders. I disagree with President Obama and I stand with our friend Israel 100 percent.

Bachmann has characterized U.S. aid to the poverty-stricken Palestinians of Gaza, who are not allowed by the Israeli occupation authority that controls their borders to export their made goods, as “standing with Ahmadinejad and Hamas.”

Her fear-mongering toward Muslims, whether at home or abroad, promises bad relations with the Muslim world should she be elected, especially NATO ally Turkey, but also Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Jordan and others.

A President Bachmann might or might not get out of Iraq and wind down the Afghanistan War (apparently her fatigue with those efforts could easily be countermanded by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff). But she seems to be looking for other conflicts, especially with Iran. And clearly she would write a blank check of support to the far-right government of Netanyahu for any military adventures it would like to initiate. Bachmann is the furthest thing from an isolationist or a peacenik. Rather, the messianic and irrational (not to mention the inaccurate) bases of her foreign policy positions toward the Middle East lend themselves to the launching of further wars in the region, something that should have been made clear by the last president we elected who felt he had a God-given mission in that region.


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By Peter Knopfler, September 12, 2011 at 3:34 pm Link to this comment

SEPARATE CHURCH FROM STATE LIKE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!
LEAVE THE CHURCH MICE PERRY=BACHMANN IN THEIR HOLE!
DO NOT BE A MUSLIM=SEPARATE CHURCH FROM STATE VOTE
FOR DOCTOR RON PAUL THE OPTION THAT MAKES SENSE!

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By Mark, September 12, 2011 at 11:06 am Link to this comment
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The foreign policy of practice for this adminitsration is clearly appeasement and apologetics. Neither of which have worked in history. These policies lead to expansionist policies by our enemies. What comes to my mind when I think about Iranian expansion is Hezbollah, IRCS, support of terrorism, and a staunch opposing view towards America. Ahmedinijad is easily one of the more pressing threats America faces for the near to midterm as Iran expands its presence in Ecuador, Venezuela, and Cuba.

If she can carry herself as well as Golda Meier, then there may be some progress.
http://msmignoresit.blogspot.com/2011/09/iranian-expansion.html

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By jesus666, August 31, 2011 at 12:21 am Link to this comment

Just what we need: another American politician ready to lick her jewish masters boots.

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By drbhelthi, August 23, 2011 at 8:36 am Link to this comment

There´s a joke going around about a Roman Catholic bishop, who stated that in comparison to Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi is a saint.  This same joke can also be applied to Michele Bachmann, perhaps 3x stronger.  Bachmann has not occupied a position that enabled her to maliciously abuse power so vastly as has Pelosi in the U.S. Congress.

Nor would Bachmann be attractive to the masses that voted Obama in
2008. That mass of folk, many of whom grew up on welfare, food stamps
and never knew their sire, could not identify with Bachmann as they did with Obama, the fulfillment of their poor-folks fantasy. 

However, the face of folk surviving on welfare, food stamps and whatever is swiftly changing to reflect socio-economic strata 3+4, in addition to five and six. Thanks to the political combo of Obama and Pelosi.  Add to them approx. 98% of the membership of both houses of the U.S. Congress, whose goal is personal wealth and retirement income, not the maintenance of the U.S. of America.  Who are in for a disappointing surprise - - .

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By ardee, August 23, 2011 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

Christian Jew, August 19 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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Her views are solid!

Well, thank you for clearing this up with such eloquence and references to facts.

If your beliefs are worth holding are they not worth more than a cheap one liner?

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By drbhelthi, August 23, 2011 at 1:49 am Link to this comment

Uh, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and, soon, Syria and Iran. All of these have been in the “playbook” of the Joint Chiefs for over 10 years. LocalHero

- and in the planbook of the GHWBushSr/NAZI entourage for +sixty.

“God help us.”
Agreed.
The “help” of the benevolent ETS applies to their 400 yr lifespan, not our 70yr lifespan. Meanwhile, the efforts of the Hitler-type ETS are destroying us via Monsanto, oncology, Bill Gates inoculations, the super-rich euthanasianists, generally.

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By LocalHero, August 22, 2011 at 2:19 am Link to this comment

Ever on the lookout for the dumbest thing ever posted on Truthdig, comes this little gem by Norwegian Shooter (very sensitive name, by the way, ya scumbag idiot)...

“Can anyone give a single example of when the military (not just one general, but the Joint Chiefs) has pushed for action against civilian restraint?”

Uh, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and, soon, Syria and Iran. All of these have been in the “playbook” of the Joint Chiefs for over 10 years.

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By LocalHero, August 22, 2011 at 2:13 am Link to this comment

“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” Blaise Pascal

Idiots like Bachman could read this a thousand times and it would never dawn on that nincompoop that it applied to her.

God help us.

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By Christian Jew, August 19, 2011 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
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Her views are solid!

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By drbhelthi, August 18, 2011 at 11:23 am Link to this comment

“What is most disturbing is that this Christian-posing cognitively-challenged callous cunt actually appeals to people.” By RayLan

- which reflects some characteristics of some Americans.
Then, there are the millions of Americans who voted Obama. Their origin and upbringing equipped them to identify with and project their poor-folks wish list onto the illegitimately conceived and born in Kenya CIA operative who has accelerated the GHWBushSr entourage destruction of the U.S.A. 

Insiders and their close associates, who are acquainted with the facility of the CIA to alter, replace and falsify records, understand the topic very well. Take the 41st US “president” for example.

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By Keith Bender, August 17, 2011 at 7:58 pm Link to this comment
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I shall practice my political spin that is the only
worthwhile purpose I can comprehend when we pretend
to place any value at all on these BACHMANN TWINS
characters.

PROM KING,Mitch L. BACHMANN :  They’re listening to
me!! This is better than sex.

HONEY SUCKLE MAY QUEEN,( Rah Rah)PAY LYNN responds
:  OH!,All my children , thats what they are .. and they
love me!! These are the Days of our Lives.
Turning back time does make us the “New Royalty”.
Please children,Please!Hold your applause for our Corporate
Sponsors message. Thank you children….Thank you!


CONFUSED REPORTER ; This in is from the Pedantic
Files. The P-Files are requesting that they not
be viewed associated with these ” Royal pains”.
It is clear they are screwing around with our children’s
lives and futures. They are also demanding that FOX
cancel their “Reality Show” contract they have with
these “People”.  Or face charges as co-conspirators
in the newest law eroding our Rights by Rightist
,The SEXUAL PREDATOR EDUCATION AND REFORM
ACT Thanks to The RULING JUNTA in the Supreme Hall.
The SPEAR ACT so people get the point.

“Anyone caught Fawking with the minds of children
through any communication conduit will be quilty of
High Crimes and Treason ”  And Once we habeus your
corpus you are done , finished and not even a
footnote in mystery.

Make the choice. Learn to be a SEXUAL PREDATOR
in our Revolutionary Prison Education system which
fosters and creates the problems our solutions
are designed to recursively combat
or become narrow minded and
unforgiving like the PEDANTICS.
Get in line ..NOW!!  Choose!!

So turn yourself over now.
PAY NOW or Pay Lynn later.
Double Think and be Thoughtless more.
We are here to help. Let us prove it.

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By RayLan, August 17, 2011 at 7:23 pm Link to this comment

What is most disturbing is that this Christian-posing cognitively-challenged callous cunt actually appeals to people.

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By Peter Knopfler, August 17, 2011 at 5:40 pm Link to this comment

COME ON FOLKS TAKE IT EASY! BACHMANN,
LIKE PERRY & MORMON MITT = ALL A CHURCH MOUSE LOOKING
FOR MORE CHEESE SO THEY CAN DEVELOP INTO A BIG FAT RAT
IN THE RAT RACE! VERY ENTERTAINING TO SEE!
USA STUCK ON STUPID
CANNOT SEPARATE CHURCH FROM STATE
JUST LIKE THE MUSLIMS.
RON PAUL ONLY CHOICE PROCESS OF ELIMINATION:

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By Arabian Sinbad, August 17, 2011 at 3:20 pm Link to this comment

It might be of interest to posters on this thread to learn that, in an Op.Ed. article in the New York Times, two professors-researchers who conducted a survey found that the data collected points to “the Tea Party as being less popular than much maligned groups like ‘Atheists’ and ‘Muslims.’”

Now, this information should alleviate the fears of those who hate the Tea Party and its most popular member in the person of M. Bachmann. 

Now, further, for a little fun! I am a proud Muslim who has been at odds with some of my nemesis on Truthdig who are either Atheists or Tea Party partisans. No need to mention names, for they will know who they are if they read this post.

But then, I really feel very bad that in the contest for popularity I find myself in the same boat as these two nemesis of mine. I further feel and propose (humorously) that Atheists, Tea-Party partisans and Muslims should join hands together against everyone else in a bed for a popularity victory and hire some mercenary researchers to make us popular!

Ha, ha, ha!

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By robjira, August 17, 2011 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

What a fucktard this woman is. That she has even the
ghost of a chance of actually being nominated (let
alone elected) does not say much for the current state
of the American electorate.

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By ron hansing, August 17, 2011 at 1:44 pm Link to this comment
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We live in a free country… and have freedom of religion. Should we not consider a person for president who is a Catholic, Atheist, Muslim, Buddhist.” Did JFK follow the orders from the Pope?

Ones religion is a personal choice and does not dictate policy.

So, cut some slack… Where’s the beef,  OK, you don’t like her, it’s simple, don’t vote for her.

And Me, I will make my own decision… I don’t need this article which is agenda driven to decide who to vote for.

What I want is someone who will correct the Debt and provide Jobs and stop Inflation. And I will live my life as I wish… free and live a happy quiet life with my family.

I am tired of people telling me what’s best for me.I’m not a slug… I’m a human thinking person.

Ron Hansing

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By ralph Hopkin, August 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment
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Actual knowledge is inversely proportional to strength of conviction.
That’s Bachmann, Perry and Palin, the 21st century political version of the three
stooges.

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By drbhelthi, August 17, 2011 at 12:21 pm Link to this comment

“And Bachmann is part of dominionist Christian thinking in the fundamentalist alliance with the military/industrial complex. It’s the C. Street phenomenon. It’s the rise of a possible American form of fascism.” Alan Lunn

Don´t you wish - !
Your fantasy is sixty-six (66) years behind the times.

Facism was initiated with the first iteration of Operation Paper Clip by the NAZI Dulles brothers, 1945. It was shifted into second gear by the reorganization of OSS functions into the CIA, by NAZI SS General Gehlin.  It shifted into 3rd gear when GHWBushSr became functional CEO of the CIA about 1960. It accelerated:
- when his NAZI clan placed him in Texas politics,
- the murder of JFKSr, 
- the election of GHWBushSr as V.P.,
- the attempt by the son of a friend of GHWBushSr on the life of Ronald Reagan,
- the election of GHWBushSr to USPresidency,
- the election of George Jr. to USPresidency,
- the re-election of George Jr. to USPresidency
- the installation of CIA operative B.H.Obama Soetoro to USPresidency, 2008.

The permeation of the U.S. of American into a facist nation was accomplished by
passage of the altered Patriot Act, 2010, which conveys dictator powers onto the USPresident. 

Alan Lunn, you are either very stupid or else a shill.  Perhaps both.

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By Norwegian Shooter, August 17, 2011 at 11:42 am Link to this comment

Civilian control of the military looks great on paper, but has been an abject failure in practice. Civilians have never kept us out of any war, while forcing us into many terrible mistakes. Can anyone give a single example of when the military (not just one general, but the Joint Chiefs) has pushed for action against civilian restraint?

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By Alan Lunn, August 17, 2011 at 11:41 am Link to this comment

W. Bush was an evangelical (his father wasn’t) due to
his conversion in a Midland, Texas Bible study group.
He was “born again.” But he wasn’t exactly a true
fundamentalist: just someone who needed to put his
rowdy past behind him. But he thrilled the hearts of
the fundamentalist Christian Right (I was one).

Michele looks and smells like a fundamentalist.
Reagan had this breed around him and he pandered to
them while seeming to take their word for it on Bible
prophecy and Israel. They were waiting for Armageddon
(in the Valley of Megiddo)to come any day now. To
them, the Middle East drama today looks like
something straight out of Ezekiel and Revelation.

What this does is to turn our military into a machine
that is pursuing mythology. Ironically, the Islamic
world has its own prophetic mythology and some of it
is based on the same Bible. For instance, Muslims
expect a return of Christ who will announce to the
world the superiority and dominion of Islam.

There is also conspiratorial mythology within the
Islamic world that is based on the assumptions of The
Protocols of Zion (which Hitler and Henry Ford also
believed) that posits a secret cabal of international
Jews seeking dominion of the planet and a plot to
introduce their messiah. This would give symbolic
credence to a plot to take down the Twin Towers. It
was a blow to the international Jewish bankers (as
supposed). I’m guessing here.

Until the nations can dissolve these ridiculous
conspiracies and dominionist agendas, religion will
continue to fuel the ongoing folly as it partners
with politics and governments. May the Arab Spring
begin this dissolving process. And Bachmann is part
of dominionist Christian thinking in the
fundamentalist alliance with the military/industrial
complex. It’s the C. Street phenomenon. It’s the rise
of a possible American form of fascism.

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By drbhelthi, August 17, 2011 at 11:01 am Link to this comment

I assume that Mrs. Bachmann expresses herself a bit more eruditely in her legal presentations, than in her public remarks.

However, a U.S. presidential candidate who would permit USARMY generals to dictate to members of congress ? 

If she were an airplane, I would immediately ground her, and determine why the ignition system is not firing on all sparkplugs - - .

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By Unconventionalideas, August 17, 2011 at 10:45 am Link to this comment

Starting new wars is just what the military industrial complex needs in order to grow and thrive.  Bachmann will be a splendid candidate, and quite possibly the best president we could have at this advanced stage of the collapse of the USA.

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By Hulk2008, August 17, 2011 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

Maybe Michelle is just doing us a favor - she’s invented a new cultural custom:  Singing Happy Birthday to people on the anniversary of their deaths.

Seems harmless enough, even if it’s bonkers. 

Soooo.  Happy Birthday, Pearl Bailey!!  (died 8/17/90)
  Loved her sense of humor and her singing voice.

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By Arabian Sinbad, August 17, 2011 at 3:36 am Link to this comment

Breaking News that the MS Media will not break to you!

55 Republicans and 26 Democrats, a total of 81 members of the US House of Representative, or about 20% of the total membership, are enjoying an “educational” trip to Israel; a late summer week-long, all expenses paid trip to Israel, funded by AIPAC.

Read about this on http://www.sabbahreport-daily newsletter!

No further comment needed on my part!

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By Arabian Sinbad, August 17, 2011 at 2:18 am Link to this comment

The word “President” attached to M. Bachmann was bad enough to send terrible chills down my spine. If- God forbid- this fascist creature, who looks to me as the mythical false Messiah, becomes a “President” of these sad dis-United States of America, then it would be time for me to seek refuge and asylum in the worst third world country in the world, for living there would be more tolerable than living in Bachmann’s America!

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By SteveL, August 16, 2011 at 8:53 pm Link to this comment

President Bachmann.  Your plan to replace Medicare with vouchers?

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By Roger Lafontaine, August 16, 2011 at 8:45 pm Link to this comment
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Everybody’s always talking about deferring to ‘the generals on the ground’. But you know what? The generals aren’t on the ground. They’re a bunch of bureaucrats. If you really want to get ‘on the ground’ you have to go to the sargeants and the enlisted men. So, forget about this ‘generals on the ground’ nonsense. It’s a bunch of bullshit.

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By MeHere, August 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm Link to this comment

The US elected GW Bush twice and then Obama.  M. Bachmann fits perfectly well
with the politics the people of this country have been supporting and the policies
that have been promoted abroad.  She even has that superficial charismatic
difference that the media loves.  If she doesn’t succeed at fulfilling her ambition as
a presidential contender it will be because she’ll be pushed aside by more
powerful conservatives—it’s a jungle out there!

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By traynorjf, August 16, 2011 at 4:19 pm Link to this comment

Remember Palin’s position on the 2008 GOP ballot?

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By Rojo, August 16, 2011 at 3:35 pm Link to this comment
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Yes, Bachmann may indeed start new wars in the greater
Middle East region. But I notice Dr. Cole rather elides
over the fact that the current President has launched
and/or expanded wars in the region, one of which,
Libya, Dr. Cole is quite a cheerleader for.

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By SoTexGuy, August 16, 2011 at 2:14 pm Link to this comment

Bachmann, like Palin is a player.. They use the media to promote themselves and profit thereby.. Personal profit and profit to a small clique that understands and uses them.. The rest of us pay the bills. She uses her campaign to enrich herself.. just as Palin did and does.. Vehicles, first class jet fares, clothes, thirty
kegs of beer.. Whatever! it’s all campaign funded and campaign expenses.. to her compadres and cohorts. These days that’s how you build a constituency! There’s no substance to either of them.. except what their needy and hopeful supporters imagine in them.

I imagine that in the quiet of the night they both sit up and say ‘how is this all possible, I am such a celebrity, rivers of money, even making public policy?! God loves me and America is great!

Adios.

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By ardee, August 16, 2011 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment

Lafayette, August 16 at 1:27 pm

All true, but I was considering living in a nation wherein a major political party would nominate such as she.

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By PatrickHenry, August 16, 2011 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment

Bachmann wished Elvis a happy birthday today, unfortunately it is the anniversary of his death.

It is sad that she is getting most of the limelight from the media for looking like the guy in the enzyte commercials when a serious candidate like Ron Paul is intentionally ignored by our ‘free’ press.

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By Lafayette, August 16, 2011 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment

RD: Nothing new here, except the scary idea she could be nominated.

I rather hope she will be. She’s such a nutter it will give her opponent an advantage.

If given the nomination, she will self-destruct on prime-time. She has no control of herself and very little charisma.

Though she is an attractive woman, which is about the only attribute she has going for her.

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By WarrenMetzler, August 16, 2011 at 11:53 am Link to this comment

It is fundamentally in opposition to the essence of Christianity to perceive
modern day Israel as remotely connected to the Israel of the Hebrew Bible. The
New Testament clearly and explicitly states that Christ came to bring a new
covenant; which is what was forecast in Jeremiah 31:31-34; and this passage in
Jeremiah explicitly states it will fundamentally different than the old covenant,
which would include the nation of Israel going out of existence. So never again
in history will there be a God ordained state of Israel. And modern Israel is Jews
acting in opposition to God’s will, not at all following God’s will.

So Michelle Bachmann is obviously a deluded individual. And if she has any
followers, it is people who are equally delusional as her. Rational people need
to start realizing that many Americans are delusional, and begin to be
concerned about how this is moving American toward more and more
degradation, and stop acting as if Michelle Bachmann and her clones are
reasonable humans.

I don’t know if you are ever meet a person who is insane; repeatedly speaks
about things that never actually occur. It is irrational to treat such a person as
normal. It is rational to respond to all the irrationalities spoken by such a
person as delusional ramblings. The same should occur with Backmann, Palin,
Gingrich, and other such people.

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By Dave L., August 16, 2011 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

Unless a voting majority of Americans are susceptible
to, easily mesmerized by a cult leader, her road to
the nomination should hit a dead end fairly soon.

They certainly are! “They” electaed O-BOMB-a didn’t they?

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By Sohrab, August 16, 2011 at 10:21 am Link to this comment
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MEK is not a terrorist organization.
I have family members in Camp Ashraf and they
couldn’t be happier for fighting against evil…
36 people got killed THIS year because US failed to
protect them under the 4th Geneva convention when the
agreement was made back in 2003. Calling members of
this organization for terrorists is a pure insult to
most of the Iranians.  Only the Iranian regime and
its lobbies oppose delisting. They need the
designation to justify execution of MEK supporters in
Iran. They need it to justify attacking 3,400 unarmed
and civilian members of the MEK living in Camp Ashraf
in Iraq. USA should do as Europe and delist them now
since its based on false accusations. Thank you!

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By CJ, August 16, 2011 at 10:15 am Link to this comment

Much as it revolts me to spend an iota of time contemplating what Bachmann
thinks or says: “I’d do this” or “I want that…” and so on. Big media’s taken to
saying she’s coherent—compared to Palin, for example. Far more frightening
than Bachmann herself is media that admires her along with her followers,
among them the “Rapturists,” as I referred to them in connection with Roubini’s
piece here.

It’s great to see Juan Cole here, by the way. I wondered when he’d mention
Netanyahu, whose notions I was reminded of while reading of Bachmann’s
horrifying (and just plain lunatic) thoughts. She just might get herself elected in
this culture of increasing fear of pretty much everything and utterly deferential
to the military. (It is heartening to know a majority of Americans want out of
Afghanistan, but as Cole is saying about Bachmann with respect to Iran and
Israel.)

One does have to pity a President who’s constantly having to respond to so much raving crap from blithering idiots, including Perry, who just claimed that a
Bernanke “printing money” would be “treasonous.” That kinda talk can lead to
civil wars, while I really do wish Texas would secede and stay there. Especially
were they to keep Perry as petite president of Texas, which anyway belongs to
Mexico. Good luck to ‘em—no more U.S. Government hand-outs.

So, Bachmann would not be CIC, I gather? Leaving that to “experts.” A little like
Obama, actually, if Afghanistan is to go by, but otherwise a fairly weird idea. I’m
certain Bachmann has no idea that in the U.S. the military is commanded by a
civilian.  In fact, I’m certain that Bachmann doesn’t know anything about
anything whatsoever, if her public statements are to go by.

Sources of what little knowledge she might possess appear to be rumor.
Otherwise she creates rumor.

I actually wrote the woman yesterday, wasting half an hour doing so and
feeling revolted the whole time. I was polite as possible, but did ask a couple
hard questions. I’m sure that was taken as leftist arrogance by whomever read it
and someone did read it. (Any remotely difficult question from anyone would be
taken as arrogant by Bachmann and staff for obvious reason. They really are
blissfully ignorant and want to keep it that way, pending being swept up in the
Rapture. Which in turn always reminds me of a movie by the same name and featuring a…let’s just say,
stunning!...Mimi Rogers. At least I have a pleasant memory regarding the Rapture. I should have written Mimi.)

First I got back a thanks for writing, and then a little while later another message indicating my email
couldn’t be delivered. (I’d filled in a form at her own website,
and then clicked on “Submit” or “Send” or whatever it was.)

Ah, DENIAL! When all else fails… Apparently, I’m not American, perhaps a
terrorist of some kind, though not of MEK, obviously. Anyway, the message was
read, though I would have signed it “MEK” had I already read Cole’s piece, just
to see what might have happened with that. Not that I broached the topic of Iran, or
foreign policy at all. It was more an email expressing my own terror of her. Not
that I used the word, “terror,” anywhere in the message.

I do regard her, and Perry, and Palin and Gingrich as terrorists, along with people
like Netanyahu. The last is already in charge of nukes. How much more
terrifying does it get? Well, Michelle Bachmann in charge of nukes is how much
more. In that case we can only hope she’d defer to Joint Chiefs. Not that she
doesn’t also espouse a domestic policy that might result in almost as much
damage as a few nukes.

“Newsweek” is being blasted for printing on its cover a photo of a glassy-eyed
Bachmann. Which is what happens as soon as big media gets at some truth. I
can’t really recall an occasion when she didn’t have that glassy-eyed look nor
when she didn’t talk the same way. She makes Bush seem authentic as Buddha.

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By david451, August 16, 2011 at 8:15 am Link to this comment

I read Mr. Cole regularly, and very much enjoy his insights.

However, I’d have hoped he would write about Ron Paul’s positions in the Middle East, rather than giving yet more oxygen to Bachmann.

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By DavidByron, August 16, 2011 at 8:14 am Link to this comment

And she still sounds better than Obama and the other right-wing nut cases.

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By felicity, August 16, 2011 at 8:00 am Link to this comment

ardee - Bachmann is more like a leader of a cult than a
candidate for a political office - self-appointed,
dogmatic, messianic, not accountable, and,
unfortunately but true to type, charismatic. 

Unless a voting majority of Americans are susceptible
to, easily mesmerized by a cult leader, her road to
the nomination should hit a dead end fairly soon.

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By Inherit The Wind, August 16, 2011 at 7:02 am Link to this comment

Nothing new here, except the scary idea she could be nominated.
We ASSUME that if she’s nominated, she’ll be defeated.
We ASSUME if she’s defeated the GOP will swing back to the center.
Never ASSUME.  It only makes an ASS out of U and ME.

McCain went Far Right and lost.  Did the GOP come back to the center? No, it’s gone further and further right.  Who’s more right wing than Bachmann? If she gets the nomination, we’ll find out, win or lose

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By upgradeyourlife, August 16, 2011 at 6:43 am Link to this comment

In Minnesota I don’t know anyone who supports her, an alternate world plays out on TV… she gets far more attention than Ron Paul, a candidate people are actually inclined to discuss

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By SarcastiCanuck, August 16, 2011 at 6:01 am Link to this comment
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Do you think she knows how to spell neo-isolationist?Good question for the next debate.It sounds to me like the straw poll is conducted by people with straw heads.Damn those scare crows,if they only had a brain….

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By thecrow, August 16, 2011 at 4:35 am Link to this comment

“But what happens when you come to the beginning again?” Alice ventured to ask.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/a-tea-tray-in-the-sky/

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By ardee, August 16, 2011 at 4:06 am Link to this comment

It is my believe ( a fervent one) that Bachman’s popularity comes from the narrow demographic with which she engages. When the entire electorate is involved I think she will come off exactly as what she is, an extremist kook.

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By brianrouth, August 16, 2011 at 3:38 am Link to this comment

she doesn’t have a hope in hell…thank goodness!!

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By Keyvan N, August 16, 2011 at 3:27 am Link to this comment
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Bachmann has every right to endorse Iran’s democracy movement. When people in Tehran were shouting “Obama, Obama, Are you with us or the Mullahs?” Obama said, “We will not interfere”. People got slaughtered but he didn’t move a finger = he was with the mullhas! As an Iranian I never forget this US betrayal to those masses who had come to the streets following President Bush’s State of The Union call: “To the People of Iran I say: If you stand up! America Stands with you!”.

And Bachmann is far from alone is voicing support to the MEK.  Former D Presidential Candidate Hoawrd Dean and a whole bunch of generals who were the senior commanders of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are supporting them. See the NPR story today:
http://www.npr.org/2011/08/15/139648748/op-ed-iranian-group-must-stay-on-terror-list
Because they too believe people of Iran have every
right to struggle to be free!

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