Based on the shouts for death both in response to the question about the uninsured man in a coma and in the notation that Perry had executed a record number of convicts, one might conclude that conservatives share a common desire: to punish other human beings.
It makes me wonder what psychological traits create the need for punishing others cruelly.  Is it DNA, or sadism, or religious fanaticism?  Is it a throwback to sharing much earlier historical feelings? 

Or is it just raw, unbridled greed?  Or the desire to eliminate ANYthing or ANYone that might decrease available income?

Well, Ron Paul didn’t say the guy should be left to die—he never got the chance.  But in past interviews, he’s made it known that he wouldn’t help anybody.  In response to Glenn Beck, Paul agreed that libertarians, if they saw someone laying in the street, would just step over the person and keep on walking.

I am without health insurance.

Here’s why I’m okay with it.

I believe there is possibly of life after death, so, I do not fear death which will
come regardless, if early in life or later, and, I will not live in fear of dying,
making payments to some corporation that no-doubt will find a way to not pay
my hospital bill in any case that may arrive. Billions have died before me, its
going to happen, this is a fact, there is no escape, I’m at peace with myself
knowing it is inevitable.

Q. But it’s a shame to die without living to eighty or beyond just because you
couldn’t get that most simplest of operations that only minimum health care
insurance could have provided.

A. I should move to another country, where its provided, for free. If you want to
understand a country or society. Take a close look at how they treat their poor,
homeless, lower and middle classes. Since my beliefs reflect my attitude, I am
hoping those, that are against free health care, will be judged and ruled harshly
when they meet their maker.

Q. But what about other people that need that free healthcare, aren’t you going
to fight to get it for them?

A. No. I believe those without health insurance will go to a better place. A place
where the those people that are against free health care do not exist. Those
that are against free healthcare, hopefully, will be judged and ruled harshly
when they meet their maker. 

Empathy for the stranger living next door to you or on the other side of the
world, is obviously not something that can be taught. You have the gene or you
don’t.

Some even believe this gene is being bred out of humans, creating a more
violent world, one that is completely based on materialism. This is another
reason why many do not care for this world. Who would want to live in a world
occupied by humans with no empathy?

No me for one.

It won’t matter who is elected into office at this point. The American system is geared towards that top percentage making the big money. They are influencing the government. It will not change. Corporations have won. I will be happy to depart from a world where consumerism and material wealth are highly regarded.

Until then, I will disrupt their lives to the best of my abilities.

heavyrunner - the destruction of the economy may well
force the country to adopt a single-payer system,
and/or as fewer and fewer people or businesses can
afford health insurance, the ‘pool’ will get smaller
and smaller, premiums will get larger and larger.  The
single-payer naysayers may find themselves priced right
out of health insurance. That should ‘force’ people to
suddenly ‘understand’ the necessity for a serious
reform of this screwy, so-called, health care system.

Democrats are not blameless. We have a good plan for single payer here in California which would save billions of dollars annually in health care costs and eliminate the uninsured. The bill passed the legislature twice when Swartzenegger was Governor, with the full knowledge in advance that he would veto it.

Now that Brown, a Democrat is Governor, the bill is bottled up in committee and the Democratic leadership will not schedule a floor vote. The votes are there to pass the bill and Brown would be forced by his party and public pressure to sign the bill, but it appears that it is going no where. This is partly due to corruption and the purchase of the Senators who are making the decisions regarding scheduling a floor vote being bought off by the insurance industry and in part because Democrats don’t want to illustrate that the emperor has no clothes as far as the piece of shit mess non solution sellout crap Obamacare.

So people continue to die from preventable and treatable illness and our economy is hamstrung with trillions in costs that no other industrial society with whom our business have to compete face.

It is probably the destruction of the economy that will eventually force action. The powerful seem not to care about the anxiety and death the current “system” is imposing on the people.

These two-faced GOP slugs see human life as being worth preserving provided it hasn’t started breathing yet. If the life is still in the womb, they fight for it. Of course, once the kid hits the bricks, it’s another future taxpayer waiting to start work. Once that worker ages to the point where they can no longer work and pay those taxes, their lives become so unimportant to the GOP that funding keeping them alive is cut to the bone. Life is only conditionally sacred to the GOP. They fight for the part of it that will get them the most votes from the biblical bunch. It’s only another form of pandering for votes, something they’re quite good at.

You got it! OK, so the insurance companies will insure you if you have a pre-existing condition. Big smell. If you can’t afford the premium you’re just as screwed. BTW, Paul’s guy had a pre-existing condition—he was gay. His premiums would be sky high due to the HIV risk. Looks like that’s what did him in the end. Healthy young men don’t usually die from viral pneumonia.

I don’t hear any public outcry from our democratic politicians, do you? Why hasn’t O said anything? Sorry, but neither party gives a rat’s ass about us.

I’d say km0591 hit the crux of the matter right between the eyes, here, with regard the nincompoopist right way of seeing the world we live in. Insurance payments from individuals to huge corporate behemoths clicking and churning away in cubicles around the marketplace, discovering when, why, and how, to deny payments for treatment to customers; patients whose lives are dependant on medical knowledge and procedures; because ‘freedom says’!: “The individual can always petition the hospital and doctors to proceed with what the insurance corporation refuses to make payment on, by paying out of pocket from their own personal fortunes made in the free and open market place of commerce and ideas.” Medical insurance just insures that you get a 12,000 bill every year, or if they have their way, an even larger billing, whether you need medical attention or not. What I’m getting to is that the cheering is notice from the right perspective, that there are just too many people already, and many need to die to make room for those who can afford life in the USA! Duh. It’s a boiling, churning idea grown of black feelings that root for wars to kill kill kill; and to find ways, when peace breaks out, to cull the populations leaving the best killers and fittest killers standing heroically alone. The Last Man Standing syndrome has to be one of the foulest and stupidest still around from WWII. Especially when those who think they get this idea, turn out to be the most deluded, grumpiest, meanest sons of bitches that any thinking person would want to get rid of right away in a survivalist situation, because they are like bad dogs that just might bite anyone at any time. They fear filled, and see others as pre-victims of their savagery. They are the olde Tartars amongst us to whom love and care are four letter words for weakness. They fear knowledge and will catapult our revered dead back over the walls with cheers and laughter. Primitives with their brains clicked off, their sense of an evolved mankind on hold, while everyone else is looking forward to an enlightened future, they clench their fists… what was it Bachmann said the other day, “We need to remain stupid! …Stupid! and Vigilant!” Did I misspeak her meaning?

Sorry that I can’t remember who first said this, but this is further proof that republicans, conservatives, or whatever they call themselves are pro-life but only between conception and birth!

Ron Paul was set up with the Blitzer question and then cut off before he got to give a complete answer.  Sound biting at its finest.

Blitzer is a AIPAC stooge.

Lets remember that If Ron Paul got elected to congress he is only one third of government and must contend with the other two who are bought and paid for.  Like Obama, it would take him years to RIFF the executive branch of all the republican cockroaches who have been appointed and assigned and will work counter to his platform.

If everyone quit smoking overnight, the PTB would be in total panic! The lost revenue would crash many companies, to say nothing of the lost jobs! I for one am very tired of being treated like a second class citizen because I still smoke cigarettes. The way I look at it, I am supporting the economy! The same could be said of alcohol, though that can have an impact beyond money if people drink and drive.

The biggest boondoggle that I have not yet heard mentioned is that of the insurance company scams. Did you know that it is against the law to practice medicine without a licence? And yet, it is not a doctor who decides whether you can have a specific treatment, it is a mere clerk, with no medical training at all! And yet you cannot argue with that clerk, or that company. So the clerk at least, and the company in general, IS practicing medicine without a licence. AND inflating all the costs to increase their profits!

Health care should NOT be for profit PERIOD! Then more people would be able to afford to buy insurance, and the whole issue would be much diminished. Of course there would still be those who could not afford it, but they would be far fewer.

In America,it is just fine to risk my life if I choose to not have health
insurance,become obese,smoke cigarettes,or become alcoholic.
That is American freedom! 
Most of the same people who agree with that would also put me in jail for possession of marijuana for my personal use.
To protect me from harming myself.
Do not expect logic ,compassion ,or change from the corporate/media/military complex. They dictate the rules and rulers of our unique “democracy” and how we live and die.

Ron Paul would have us all live in some terrifying, Ayn Rand nightmare.  Robespierre115

Of course, each of us has ones on viewpoint.
However, how would you entitle the nightmare that now engulfs us ???

The new Republican mantra.

“I got mine. Sucks to be You.”

Sorry for duplication .. it did not show up at first.

I had read some time ago when notice of Gardisil came out, that it only ‘cured’ ONE of the multitude of viruses that were lumped into the condition causing cervical cancer. ONE! Obviously a profit making boondoggle to vaccinate young women and make money. But I remember another drug that was given to pregnant women, and in later years cause their daughters to manifest cancer. Hmmmm!

“From about 1940 to 1970, DES was given to pregnant women under the mistaken belief it would reduce the risk of pregnancy complications and losses. In 1971, DES was shown to cause a rare vaginal tumor in girls and women who had been exposed to this drug in utero. The United States Food and Drug Administration subsequently withdrew DES from use in pregnant women. Follow-up studies have indicated that DES also has the potential to cause a variety of significant adverse medical complication during the lifetime of those exposed.[1] The United States National Cancer Institute recommends[2] that women born to mothers who took DES undergo special medical exams on a regular basis to screen for complications as a result of the drug. Women exposed to DES are commonly referred to as “DES daughters”.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

We move too quickly with too little testing and TIME to know the long-term effects, all to make a buck!

I had read some time ago when notice of Gardisil came out, that it only ‘cured’ ONE of the multitude of viruses that were lumped into causes of cervical cancer. ONE! Obviously a profit making boondoggle to vaccinate young women and make money. But I remember another drug that was given to pregnant women, and in later years cause their daughters to manifest cancer. Hmmmm!

“From about 1940 to 1970, DES was given to pregnant women under the mistaken belief it would reduce the risk of pregnancy complications and losses. In 1971, DES was shown to cause a rare vaginal tumor in girls and women who had been exposed to this drug in utero. The United States Food and Drug Administration subsequently withdrew DES from use in pregnant women. Follow-up studies have indicated that DES also has the potential to cause a variety of significant adverse medical complication during the lifetime of those exposed.[1] The United States National Cancer Institute recommends[2] that women born to mothers who took DES undergo special medical exams on a regular basis to screen for complications as a result of the drug. Women exposed to DES are commonly referred to as “DES daughters”.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

We’re too darned quick to implement things without proper testing and time, just to make a buck!

Ron Paul would have us all live in some terrifying, Ayn Rand nightmare.

“In principle, most of them seemed to think that state-funded protection for children against a deadly disease might even be acceptable.” Conason article

Naievete´ profound.
No research that GARDASIL does any of what it is claimed to do, and suppression of the statistics on the girls and women who have been lamed and killed by the GARDASIL injection.  NO EVIDENCE that it inoculates. Or, even helps prevent uterine cancer.  The concept of injecting this laboratory configuration of snot into boys evades logic entirely.
Not to mention the millions it has already swept into Merck cash registers, and the physicians who violate their oath when they inject it, for a few silver coins - - .
All for nothing. Except $ profit.

About what I expected from the tea party crowd but I also blame Wolff Blitzer. If he had any journalistic integrity (which he doesn’t), he would have asked a slightly different question:

Consider a 30 year old man with MS or cystic fibrosis who earns an acceptable income but, due to his pre-existing condition, can’t find insurance (or, after the affordable care act goes into effect) finds insurance too high to afford. He gets sick and requires long-term hospitalization. What should be done?

Blitzer threw a softball to the candidates and red meat to the audience. It got exactly the reaction he wanted. But it really meant nothing. A healthy 30 year old who can afford insurance but doesn’t buy it pretty much deserves what he gets. He’s playing Russian roulette and lost. But he shouldn’t be allowed to die ... just be on the hook for the costs. He won’t make the same mistake again.

no constitution wld ever be known—it, perforce, can only be interpreted.
so, question arises, does every person have inalienable right to explain any given ‘law’
or directive that a constitution contains?
constitution contains a set of ‘laws’, wishes, vacuities, threats, commands; put
together by people who interpret it, judge ‘miscreants’, and mete out penalties for any
‘violations’ of it.

how does one, tho, explain that one can violate a law [or ‘law’ in my thinking; put
together by slave owners, plutocrats, masters of war/peace/people] that wld be till end
of time only argued about? and never known?

of course, lawyers/judges can ‘explain’ everything; the ‘law’ says so; and that’s that; so
shut up and go back to work, pay your taxes [which only we determine] fight for ‘your’
country, and obey constitution
and the ‘laws’ [a set of diktats put together by the ‘elite’].

the fundamental idea seems to be: say s’mthing that cannot ever be proven
right/wrong, true/false, moral/immoral and then let them forever argue about it.

in short, we’ve lived in lawlessness for millennia. is this mean that to end it we must
replace this lawlessness with another kind of lawlessness which might be even worse
than the one we have now?

no, it does not mean that. we escape the trap by buying into a desirable, absolutely
certain truth [which aristotle called “apodictic” truth] that we do not wage war,
command/abuse people, lie, deceive, beat wives/children, build jails for some and
palaces for others, etcetc.

we can do it. but those who attempt to do that are being demonized, jailed, killed, etc.
and by whom? by the clero-plutocratic ‘elite’! alas, 99% of americans are willing even to
murder those who oppose it and its ideas. [it is not like that in europe—not yet,
anyway]

and they murder people. masses of people in u.s slaughter masses of people all over
the world.
how many by now? 10mn in america; ?4mn in s.e. asia + in korea, nicaragua, cuba,
palestina, europe ‘17-18, chile, panama, et al.

and they are just beginning. tnx

Yes, the Republicans have become so frightened of the extremists in their own party that they cravenly cower before any display of cruel, Randian selfishness by their supporters.  The fact that not one candidate rebuked these outbursts was both revealing and appalling.  As soon as I believe that the Republicans can’t become any more preposterous and destructive than they have been in the past, they keep proving me wrong.

The main dispute I would have though with Joe Conasan’s article is that the problem of healthcare affordability and access is not a problem of people being uninsured.  Most bankruptcies in this nation are due to medical costs, and the majority of those are people with insurance.  Insurance does not provide access or affordability, that is a myth and is the main reason Obama’s healthcare bill will fail.