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Posted on Nov 16, 2009

By Eugene Robinson

No force on earth can stop Sarah Palin from becoming our very own “lite” version of Eva Peron—a glamorous and tragic legend, minus the tragedy. Eventually, some clever composer will write a blockbuster musical about her life and times. Stage directions will include: “SARAH fires gun. MOOSE dies.”

It’s futile to try to ignore Palin, however noble the effort may be. She’s a phenomenon, and it hardly matters that so many people believe she augurs the final dissolution of American politics into a big, frothy bowl of mush. The republic will survive even her.

Anyway, she’s unlikely ever to become—shudder—commander in chief. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 60 percent of Americans believe Palin is not qualified to be president, and 53 percent “definitely” would not vote for her. 

You do have to wonder about the 37 percent who’d think about it, though. And as for the 9 percent who definitely would vote for Palin, that’s enough people to qualify as a movement—the equivalent of Evita’s fervid descamisados, or “shirtless ones,” who entrusted her with their hopes and dreams.

Palin’s followers can afford shirts. But evidently they feel so disenfranchised, so ignored, so put upon by forces beyond their control, that they are willing to look past her every shortcoming and forgive her every betrayal. What matters is “Going Rogue”—not the cleverly titled book itself, but Palin’s willingness to thumb her nose at political and social convention.

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So what if she displayed no real grasp of the issues in interviews during last year’s campaign? Those reporters were being beastly, trying to show her up. So what if the inside-the-Beltway crowd thinks she’s an airhead? The state of mind called “Washington” is the problem, and she’s the solution. So what if she quit as governor of Alaska with a year and a half left in her term? “Only dead fish go with the flow,” she explained, demonstrating once more her sassy roguishness.

Palin’s knack for being cleverly transgressive is almost like performance art. Her doppelganger, Tina Fey, did a hysterically prescient bit, right before Election Day, in which “Palin” vowed that she was never going away. Fey’s “Palin” predicted that she’d become either president or “a white Oprah.” So on whose show does Palin launch her book? Oprah’s, of course—adding to the long list of Palin lore that you simply couldn’t make up.

Palin indeed would be a terrific talk-show host, but she has much bigger ambitions. I think her ultimate impact, like Evita’s, may be more sociological than political.

She taps into several broad currents of discontent. She speaks for social conservatives, long taken for granted by Republicans who brandish their opposition to issues such as abortion and gay rights at election time but never actually do anything about them. She speaks for small-town and rural Americans who feel their concerns are ignored. She speaks for hunters who fear that “Washington” wants to take their guns away.

Unlike so many of her detractors—Republicans as well as Democrats—she didn’t go to an Ivy League school. She scrapped and scraped her way through college, as a lot of people do. And she’s a woman who juggles a complicated family and a demanding career. This is one of the most important elements of the Palin persona, because it resonates with so many other American women who see their own daily struggles in Palin’s.

Of course, Palin’s feminism is highly situational. She has expressed sisterly solidarity with Hillary Clinton, of all people, on the added burden that female candidates must bear in deciding what to wear on the campaign trail. But that burden was lightened for Palin by the $150,000 in designer clothing bought for her and her family with campaign funds.

True believers will not mind. Palin’s unconventional trajectory and unkempt mind are seen as authentic, in the sense that we all know people who’ve had ups and downs in their lives and who couldn’t point to Kazakhstan on a map. Her success to date represents a triumph of authenticity over accomplishment. In the final analysis, I believe, that’s not enough to make her president. But others seeking the 2012 Republican nomination underestimate her at their peril.

Toward the end of her life, Eva Peron gave a famous speech in which she vowed, “I will return, and I will be millions!” Sarah Palin, our Evita, has returned—and she will make millions. 

Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 18, 2009 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment

GRYM:
You twisted EVERYTHING up I posted. 
1) I agreed and AGREE SP never said “I can see Russia…”—that was Tina Fey in an SNL skit about the VP debate with Biden.

2) What Palin DID say was in her interview with Charles Gibson—which was nearly as absurd as Fey’s exaggeration.  I quoted it below—your sweetheart’s actual imbecilic words.

3) When Tina Fey did her imitation of Palin in the Katie Couric interview she DID recite Palin’s remarks to Couric VERBATIM.

So…can you SOMEHOW keep this straight—the “VERBATIM” part was the Couric interview.

The “I can see Russia” part was an SNL exaggeration, and NOT Palin’s real words.

Palin DID do an interview with Charles Gibson where she claimed the proximity of Russia to Alaska gave her insights.

Bonus: The claim Obama started his campaign on Ayres’ kitchen table has been denied by EVERYONE who was SUPPOSED to be at that meeting…never happened.  Just another Swift-Boater piece-of-shit lie that they are so good at.  Naturally a ditto-head like you believes it!

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By yours truly, November 18, 2009 at 7:10 pm Link to this comment
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Is she Going Rogue or Running Amok?

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By Leefeller, November 18, 2009 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment

If one is to compare Palin to something or someone, for something, it may be prudent to compare Palin to the rock of Gibraltar, for her strong mental outcroppings and a constant ability to smash the English language into a bloody pulp.

When, Comparing Palin to someone, I would prefer comparing her to Britney Spears a better known celebrity of questionable repute, in fact I prefer Britney Spears, for I had personal acquaintance with someone who had the last name of Spears when I was in Vietnam, so my connection is very personal and I have never known anyone named Palin. 

If Palin is going to run for President, maybe she could tell us in advance, that she will only keep the job as president for two years, because she has bigger fish to fry?

If Palin is going to run for president, she should run with Joe the Plumber, for his profoundness exceeds hers, only in how he procured celebrity status, plus his abilities as a plumber with stomach wrenching comments,  this ticket would provide one with two barf bags for the price of one!

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By Trailing Begonia, November 18, 2009 at 4:16 pm Link to this comment

It’s a good thing Evita is dead, otherwise, she’d die or a heart attack - or worse - if she heard of that dumb slot being compared to her

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By rollzone, November 18, 2009 at 3:26 pm Link to this comment

hello again. i am amazed by the outlandish fear of the progressives that this woman has a chance at reversing the chosen one’s agenda. women never vote for sex appeal. and petty arguments putting words in other peoples’ mouths. Mrs. Palin is very public; as pointed out: has quite a journey to fill Mrs. Peron’s shoes, and continues to attract free publicity. what do any of you know about her platform? what makes you think our democratic republic is any different today than when Mr. Ayers was in high school? are you all venting your shallow specialness? i am not an EXTREMIST, but it would not bother me to see her on a ticket with Ron Paul Haymaker. this animosity only illustrates defeatism.

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By Leefeller, November 18, 2009 at 12:44 pm Link to this comment

If one is to conclude the usefulness of the Martyr
complex, Palin is a good example as her followers, for
they seem to strive for the position.

If Palin’s books sales exceed her fondest dreams and
help her obtain the American dream most opportunists
strive for and Palin becomes rich in her own mind, maybe
she will become humble enough to read one?

Now for some sexism! It used to be dumb blond jokes were
the sexist jokes of choice in political incorrectness,
now we are finding Palin jokes have taken their place.

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By Night-Gaunt, November 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm Link to this comment

Actually Go Right Young Man a bigot not only has prejudices but acts on them to stop others from having the same rights as they do. (Check out womens’ rights, rights of all others not white, heterosexual, wealthy and male. Whose side are you on in this matter? Everyones or just the Republicans?) No one is stopping you in any way no matter how prejudiced you are. So choose another word and look it up to make sure you are using it properly. I do.

Yes pick examples and show us who is prejudiced here. C & P is easy so there is no excuse. Don’t just claim back it up.

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By Shenonymous, November 18, 2009 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

To do, GRYM, exactly as Anarcissie suggests…pass on to something more
challenging.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, - “and you will provide proof of your conceited claims about me?”

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Absolutely.

Most bigots fail to recognize their intolerance. I can only refer you back to your writings in this very thread.

I have seen you regularly do to others what you have with me this very day. You obstinately and intolerantly attempt to lambaste me merely for holding a different point of view. You make it clear that you hold anyone like myself with great disdain. And why? Because they fail to think as you do. It’s just that simple.

You are a clear and glaring example of the very definition of a bigot.

Questions: What purpose does it serve for you when you speak with derision toward another simply for holding a different point of view? Are you assisting in dialog? Clearly no. Are you helping others in understanding your view? No again. Are you “tolerantly” and patiently listening to all points of view? I think not.

What exactly are your intentions?

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By Leefeller, November 18, 2009 at 10:59 am Link to this comment

Hate, bigotry, sexism or outright nastiness? Which is it?

Hate is all encompassing, sexism is what it is, and heaven
forbid outright nastiness, seems most appropriate!

Define with prejudice as one will, for Sarah Palin
reminds me of someone mooning the world being deluded and
full of her self attempting to be profound, and all anyone
can ever sees is the humorous canker on her butt cheeks!

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By purplewolf, November 18, 2009 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

I may purchase her book when it hits the shelves at the local dollar store,just to get a laugh at the absurdity of it.Spending anything more on her ghost written book of lies and falsehoods would be robbery.

BTW it is Siberia and not Russia that can be viewed from Alaska on it’s farthest reaches.Sarah needs a course on geography.Get that woman an atlas and a globe and quickly.

This woman has been a proven liar since her time in elected office and no doubt well before that.Leopards do not change their spots and even when she had finally admitted she lied about something on the campaign trail,she went out and continued with the same lies she just admitted to.Truth is a total stranger to this woman.She is to comfortable in the telling of her falsehoods(lies)of her past history to ever be trusted into a larger position of power higher that the abandoned post of Alaskan governor,which she did abuse her power of authority against others who viewed things differently that she did, even though she denies this.

Nor does she practice what she preaches,check out her speeches,actions and practices before she was selected for V.P. running mate.Also,she had a poor track record into following the laws pertaining to wildlife in Alaska.She has taken obsolete laws and twisted them into what she wants and allowed actions to be taken against nature,even through it is still illegal to do so.Rule of law be damned with this woman.

We as Americans do not need this type of questionable leadership? nor does the rest of the world.We all deserve better than a President Sarah Palin ever.

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By Night-Gaunt, November 18, 2009 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

Ah the reflection syndrome—what I believe I put onto you and condemn you for it. You certainly display it GRYM in your constant repetition of the propaganda lines of the virulent reich wing. We are living in the legacy of Reagan who was the first of a line of presidents, unbroken today, that are busily destroying the republic in order to raise a shining empire on a hill of skulls. Our form of gov’t is messy, even when it does work, but an empire a true empire would move fast and sure. The death penalty would be used the next day if you weren’t put into perpetual servitude. Theocracy will be the rule by which they put us in our places. [My own pet hypothesis otherwise we may be looking at “The Road” type scenario of social disintegration.]

True the Republicans do have a few of those of other genders and colors which is good but like the Democrats they are still mostly ruled by the Aryan-Nordics etc white guys. Most of whom are millionaires. They represent the oligarchy which is mostly incognito to us. They like it that way. They dislike anything democratic at all. even the limited one here. The one they have been monkey wrenching all of these years to decrease its function even more. Sara Palin is one such product of their long labors. A shell that they can fill with whatever they want to market to us.

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By Anarcissie, November 18, 2009 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

I asked an intelligent question—quite possibly the only intelligent question which can be asked about Sarah Palin—but, in Ouroboros’s words, instead of considering it you’re all “rummaging through the dumpsters.”  Yes, you can all sternly smite GRYM with the facts, but it would be more intelligent to notice the vacuity in the first place and pass on to something more challenging, would it not?

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By Shenonymous, November 18, 2009 at 9:38 am Link to this comment

GRYM - and you will provide proof of your conceited claims about me?  How about
some quotes or are you continuing to blow it out of your behind?

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 9:16 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, - “(I have a strong egoistical superiority complex!  This has been noted by TDers many times before.)  I am a witch incognito”

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I don’t know you to be any of those things. But there can be no doubt that you’re a glaring example of :a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a political or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

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By Glen Wayne, November 18, 2009 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

Darth Palin   ePie   November 18th, 2009

The Darth breathin geriatric right of the right
took up the Palin to prop up their ratings plight
as any Palintoligist tea bagger might.

Knock, knock: ‘who’s there?’
The giddy learned all American gal,
I is here for the thrill of it all.
Us high healed leaders got to stand real tall
The empire is lookin real fine this fall.

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By Shenonymous, November 18, 2009 at 8:11 am Link to this comment

GRYM - you are so silly.  I’m the happiest lady on earth!  I’m just better than you
and you resent it.  (I have a strong egoistical superiority complex!  This has been
noted by TDers many times before.)  I am a witch incognito who really doesn’t
care what you think.  I have my broom and that is all I need to fly around zapping
those who are consumed with themselves.  Get a grip.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 7:59 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, November 18 at 11:52 am


Thank you once again. You make my point about hatred and bigotry much better then I ever could.

I pity your unhappiness and dark disposition.

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By Purple Girl, November 18, 2009 at 7:52 am Link to this comment

She infuriates me not only politically, but intellectually, morally and as the same gender.
Politically she stands for everything our Founders Rejected, both from an Economic stance and a Moral stance.She is an Exclusionist, while our Foudners were Inclusionists.Worse she buys into “Trickle Down” which is nothing more than reinstating the Cast System. And her ‘evangelical’ ideology no different than the old Vaticans.
Intellectually, she too is not a curious person like W. She’s intellctually stunted because she has no real motivation to learn, Just ‘Be’.
Morally, she offends my sense of adherence and reverence to the most basic teaching of Christ. He never weilded a weapon, nor mounted an Army, never used the means of war to convert others. True followers understand the significance when John prophecizes that Christs Defeats Satan with just ‘The Word’.
As a woman I see her as Lowering of the Bar.
Not only does she try to use her ‘sex appeal’ to distract from her shortfalls, she fails to own up when her shortcomings are obvious. Her winking and walking routine not only demeans and undermines women, it also insults men. Only solidifying the Stereotype of dumbass Dick Thinkers. Come on boys, she knows she’s given you a chubby and is dragging you to the jewelry store by your noses. She doesn’t want the responsiblities of Equality, just the Benefits.She’s what amounts to a Political golddigger, and it’s going to be your backs she going to do it off of.She destroyed any creditabilty McCain had with moderates over his tenure she hopes to do the same to the Republican Brand as well. While these Neo cons drool over her, woman are laughing at their stupidity. Now who’s the intellectually challenged and Weak? Who can’t control the influence of their Hormones?? If it merely takes Tits, Lips and Ass to wobble your mind then perhaps you shouldn’t be given any real responsiblity or influence.
“You’re Thinkin With Your dipstick, Jimmy”

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By Shenonymous, November 18, 2009 at 7:52 am Link to this comment

GRYM - “How many times have I seen you going on and on about Bush and Co.
in the last eight months? “
  You can provide proof of this wild claim, can’t you. 
Your Uranus, if you wouldn’t mind, that is if you have a mind, do a reality check
on this .  I think Leefeller won’t care if I use his favorite 7th planet to nod at your
self-indulgent gabble.  Oh, in respect to the turkey day coming up, make that
self-indulgent gobble.

For myself, yes my opinions are most important to me unless someone can
convince me otherwise.  You have no skill at that, obviously.  The only deranged
blinding bigotry and debilitating hatred (well not hatred) I have is for rigid
imbeciles like yourself.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 7:47 am Link to this comment

MarthaA, November 18 at 11:35 am

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Thank you too for proving my point so succinctly. You are, without a doubt, a small minded and hateful bigot.

Bigotry: : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a political or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Progressives are some of the most intolerant and hate-filled people I happen to know. It’s one of the main reasons I left the party of my parents and Grandparents. They would be sicked by what the liberal movement has morphed into.

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By MarthaA, November 18, 2009 at 7:39 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, Nov.18 at 3:58am,

Amorphous nonsense.

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By MarthaA, November 18, 2009 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

Night-Gaunt, Nov.18 at 3:23am,

Lack of political education and all the sophism and propaganda by the Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Media Echo-Chamber of the Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Movement is the reason so many of the common population are “blockheads and dummies” registered and voting Republican against their own best interest.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 7:27 am Link to this comment

Shenonymous, - “One can tell hysteria is the ruling god when rehashing worn-out issues rears its pathetic head.”—“Griping is just that…griping.  Shows an
inability to move on.”

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1. How many times have I seen you going on and on about Bush and Co. in the last eight months? Failure to move on? Or hypocrisy in full view? Or, conversely, you feel its only YOUR opinion that matters on which issues are worth talking about?

2. Fascinating how you completely missed that the Ayers matter was made an issue here by an “persistent putz” progressive.

THANK YOU! Thank you for illustrating my point so vividly. You are deranged with blinding bigotry and debilitating hatred. It’s unhealthy, to say the least!

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It’s wonderful that you feel the Bill Ayers issue has been fully vetted to your satisfaction. Perhaps you will be the one who may explain why candidate Obama felt the need to lie about his relationship with Ayers?

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By Shenonymous, November 18, 2009 at 6:41 am Link to this comment

One can tell hysteria is the ruling god when rehashing worn-out issues rears its
pathetic head.  It is the Black Knight Syndrome.  The Ayers business was dead a
long time ago, but some persistent putz will always drag out zombie issues, like
the idiotic recurrent demand for Obama’s birth certificate.  If any real answer is
desired rather than grandstanding with stale matters, try writing to Obama.  Idle
speculation only feeds one’s ego.  There might have been a case at one time but it
was about as vetted as anything could be.  Griping is just that…griping.  Shows an
inability to move on.  Sort of what Palin did in her book.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 3:54 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, November 18 at 12:32 am #

“Go Right:The facts on Ayres are crystal clear despite your attempts to re-write them. Here’s a big one: Ayres and Obama sat on a board together where they were both appointed—and it was 20-30 years after Ayres’ terrorist activities.”

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You are correct about the two men serving on a board together. But let us be clear that I didn’t re-write anything. I added to it. You simply wish to ignore the fact that Obama began his Senate campaign in the Kitchen of Bill Ayers and, he ultimately lied about it. Why did Obama feel he needed to lie about his relationship with Ayers? Why did Senator Obama lie and claim his children attending school with Bill Ayers children?

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By Go Right Young Man, November 18, 2009 at 3:45 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, November 18 at 12:32 am

What does your last post have to do with anything I’ve written? You’re simply changing and expanding the subject.

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You claimed the following: “As I have said: Tina Fey’s GREATEST impersonation was when she repeated Palin’s answers VERBATIM on SNL—that was what made Palin look ridiculous.”

Now the issue was simple. Sarah Palin never said she could “SEE RUSSIA FROM HER BACKYARD” as 70% of progressives have come to believe. You claimed Tina Faye was quoting Palin “VERBATIM”! And, going directly to my point, it made Palin “look ridiculous”.

Now a simple question: Did SARAH PALIN say she could see Russia from her back yard as 70% of progressives have come to believe?

The answer is clearly no. Tina Faye said it. A fictional character. Why not simply say that you too misunderstood what Palin actually said. Why all the convoluted twisting and gyrating?

Hate, bigotry, sexism or outright nastiness? Which is it?

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By Shenonymous, November 17, 2009 at 11:58 pm Link to this comment

Which is why, MarthaA and Night-Gaunt, this country is a Republic and not a
mob-rule democracy.  Ignorance is not bliss. The founding fathers knew this and
constructed a country where that malady was intercepted.  I do not see this
Republic as toppling as you do.  It is resilient and history has borne this out.

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By Night-Gaunt, November 17, 2009 at 11:23 pm Link to this comment

Most of them are desperate and have stars in their eyes and a life time of conditioning. Also you can’t leave out poor education and wrong education as well. Then there is the manipulation of voting in some areas and the lack of availability of other candidates to have an equal shot at getting elected if we did have a clean election process like the Ukraine has. Ours doesn’t measure up to that level of clean.

If you had read my previous entries you would see my lament of such a thing could and possibly would happen in this tottering Republic. Eaten from the inside just as James Madison warned. That would be how we would lose it.


“The abuse of power is a danger but also is the abuse of liberty.”~James Madison (Paraphrased.)

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By MarthaA, November 17, 2009 at 11:15 pm Link to this comment

Night-Gaunt, Nov.18 at 2:29am,

It was the underestimating by “blockheads and dummies” of what the Right EXTREME can do with “blockheads and dummies” that got Reagan and Bush II into office.  Since it has already been done, not once, but twice, it is reasonable to think it will happen again—it appears to me the set up has begun.

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By Shenonymous, November 17, 2009 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment

Yeah but, Evita could sing!  Well, Madonna could.  The comparison between
Palin and Evita (Eva Peron) is pretty paltry.  While not the saint as portrayed by
some, Eva Peron, born out of wedlock, went on to become named the “Spiritual
Leader of the Nation: by the Argentine Congress.  Could you imagine Sarah
Palin coming anywhere near that title?  Unusual for women to be in politics,
Peron became extraordinarily strong within the Pro-Peronist trade unions,
essentially for speaking on behalf of labor rights.  Can you see Palin speaking
on behalf of anything other than herself? 

She was falsely accused of being a fascist because of a surface association with
the true fascist, Francisco Franco of Spain by whom she was received on a
special goodwill tour of several countries. 

Besides running the Ministries of Labor and Health, she became the namesake
of a major charitable foundation, the Eva Perón Foundation, and often kissed
the poor and was kissed back even the leprous and syphilitic!  Now tell me,
honestly, can you see the Diva of Alaska doing that?  Oh yeah! 

Eva Peron was also a champion for women suffrage in Argentina having
success at gaining the right to vote by founding and managing the nation’s first
large-scale female political party, the Female Peronist Party.  Somehow I do not
see Sarah Palin doing anything for the rights of women in this country.  Do
you?

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By Night-Gaunt, November 17, 2009 at 10:29 pm Link to this comment

For not “defending Palinyou spend an inordinate time doing so, kind of. She is good for a flimsy post political figure but not as a real politician. She did the thing you don’t do when you plan on running again—you don’t disrespect the political operatives that you worked with. Its like burning the bridge you walked over. Her book does just that. Besides being riddled with errors and out right lies. Some of which contradict what she has said about her family. The best she can hope for is like Buchanan appear on the talk shows and write books (?) and have a radio show and or TV show too. But political, not in this universe because who would work for such and ingrate as that? Would you? I wouldn’t!

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By MarthaA, November 17, 2009 at 9:30 pm Link to this comment

“She taps into several broad currents of discontent. She speaks for social conservatives, long taken for granted by Republicans who brandish their opposition to issues such as abortion and gay rights at election time but never actually do anything about them. She speaks for small-town and rural Americans who feel their concerns are ignored. She speaks for hunters who fear that “Washington” wants to take their guns away.”

“Unlike so many of her detractors—Republicans as well as Democrats—she didn’t go to an Ivy League school. She scrapped and scraped her way through college, as a lot of people do. And she’s a woman who juggles a complicated family and a demanding career. This is one of the most important elements of the Palin persona, because it resonates with so many other American women who see their own daily struggles in Palin’s.”

“Palin’s unconventional trajectory and unkempt mind are seen as authentic, in the sense that we all know people who’ve had ups and downs in their lives and who couldn’t point to Kazakhstan on a map. Her success to date represents a triumph of authenticity over accomplishment.”


Right-Wing Republican EXTREME money is making Sarah Palin’s “confidence without merit”  into an icon and the Right-Wing Media Echo-Chamber has Sarah Palin everywhere you look, and is costing the Right-Wing Conservative EXTREME lots of money to promote Sarah Palin, which is for more than just for her to sell her book, the Right-Wing EXTREMISTS that are putting out the dough to promote her see her as another Right-Wing Conservative EXTREMIST Republican puppet they can use to regain power and more than likely helped her get the book written for the very purpose of getting her known to the public, and like with Reagan and the Bushes, the 70% MAJORITY Grassroots population of the nation mean nothing, except to be led as “blockheads and dummies” by smiles and feigned compassion of Republican EXTREMIST sophist propaganda rhetoric, which George H.W. Bush told Gorbachev and Gorbachev finally told “The Nation” in an interview last September.

Republicans DO NOT represent NONE of the Common Majority, the people.  Republicans ONLY represent Nobles, the Capitalists, the elite—big money.

Sarah Palin is a REPUBLICAN, an EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN, who is playing to the people, the 70% Common Majority and like her Republican predecessors, will NOT in any way represent the people, the 70% MAJORITY Common Population, but will, like Reagan, Bush I and Bush II, follow the EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN agenda and only the “blockheads and dummies” of the Common Population will follow her.  If the Right-Wing is able somehow to sneak her in to power, they will; like they did Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, and it is apparent that is their plan.  If they don’t fraud the vote again, hopefully there will not be enough “blockheads and dummies” in the Common Population to get her elected.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 17, 2009 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

Ouroborus, November 17 at 11:55 am #

Inherit The Wind, November 17 at 9:01 am #

What in heavens name are you doing here? Wasting your
considerable talents rummaging through the dumpsters?

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Well thanks for the kudos, but it’s Gene Robinson! I LIKE his articles!  The only dumpsters around are full of the garbage the Palin defenders are dumping.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 17, 2009 at 8:32 pm Link to this comment

Go Right:

The facts on Ayres are crystal clear despite your attempts to re-write them. Here’s a big one: Ayres and Obama sat on a board together where they were both appointed—and it was 20-30 years after Ayres’ terrorist activities.

Here is what Palin ACTUALLY said to Charles Gibson:
“They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”  Disprove THAT, flyboy!

Here’s the larger quote where Palin implies that SHE understands Russia because of that:
“PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals.That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along. “

Clearly the woman doesn’t know SHIT about foreign relations or the complications or motivations for Russians’ policy from the tsars to the commissars to their new political superstars. Yeah, I know about that pair of islands, 3 miles apart—they ain’t Moscow or Washington—or even Juneau.


And you’ve mixed up Tina Fey’s Katie Couric interview WHICH WAS VERBATIM with another skit about a debate with Biden where Fey says “And I can see Russia from my house.”

I suggest YOU do your fact-checking before demanding others do so.  I challenge Palin for being the mean, bigoted, ignorant, sneaky trailer-trash that she is.  If she wasn’t pretty, she would be as yesterday’s-news as Joe-the-Plumber, whose 15 minutes ran out a few months ago.

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By TAO Walker, November 17, 2009 at 8:06 pm Link to this comment

Among theamericanpeople, “....self-absorbed non-entity” is pretty much their everyday half-life “on drugs.”  The self-absorption itself is honestly come-by.  It is as american as pie-in-the-sky.

Eugene Robinson might next take a look at how Todd is doing in his audition to play “Don Juan.”

HokaHey!

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By Shenonymous, November 17, 2009 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment

The book is selling for $4.95 and at that price is it any wonder it was an
immediate best seller.  When it goes up in a week or two to the jacket price we
should see how much of a best seller it is then.  Almost the price of a comic
book.  Revealed on the news this a.m., the book was ghost written.  Now
imagine getting ready for a speech to Congress?  If the Republicans want that
cartoon of a woman as their presidential candidate, then great.  It will make it
easier on the missing the boat Democrats to save their own asses in the next
election. 

Qualified to be president!  Can anyone imagine her on the world scene?  Maybe
Silvio Berlusconi in Italy could get a good pinch on the bottom in? 
Ahmadinejad?  How would she do with the two dictators in South America?  Or
Egypt?  How would she solve the Israeli/Palestinian problem?  Does she even
know there is a problem?  Does she even know where Israel and the Middle East
are?  I think Miss Piggy has better credentials.  Maybe in some hilarious version
of tales from the crypt.  Methinks Mrs. Palin ought to use the next two years
going to school and majoring in political science with a minor in geography,
then a few courses in world history both ancient and modern.  Then shee
should show us her GPA.  Then maybe get a voice coach, and a psychiatrist.  A
little Buddhism wouldn’t hurt to learn a bit of humility????  Well humility is not
a politician’s trait.  It isn’t hatred on my part, it is incredulity.

No, it was Mrs. Palin who said Russia could be seen across the Bering Strait,
then Tina Fey parodied her.  September 11, 2008, in Indiana, she actually said,
“They’re [the Russians] our next door neighbors, and you can actually see
Russia from land here in Alaska.”  She said it on ABC News with Charlie Gibson. 
“And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border
between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our
next door neighbors.  We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re
very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of
weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from
land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”

  Big Diomede Island in Russia and Little Diomede Island in Alaska are less
than 3 miles apart.  If you are standing on one you can see the other.  They are
uninhabited, so seeing Russia from Alaska only happens for occasional fossil-
hunters, but very few politicians, like…none.

  The Diomedes are where fossils of dwarf mammoths have been found that
survived until the last ice age, about 10,000 years ago, or about 4,000 years
before the universe even existed according to Sarah Palin and the young-earth
crowd who say they can date the origin of the universe from the assumptions
they make about the meaning of Genesis!  This is a more important point.

A meteorology major wrote, It is theoretically possible to see Russia from the
Alaska mainland. Although Russia is much further than the geometric horizon,
as the original poster indicated, under temperature gradients, light rays bend.
Due to the hillinger effect, (also known as the arctic mirage), if warm air sits on
top of cool air, light rays will bend following the curvature of the earth,
allowing objects well beyond the geometric horizon to be seen. This particular
effect is more common towards the earth’s poles where cool air near the
ground is more common (like Alaska), so the statement that you can see Russia
from Alaska is not as absurd as it originally sounds.  But it is moot since the
island is uninhabited.

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By LostHills, November 17, 2009 at 7:27 pm Link to this comment

Get straight, young man.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 7:20 pm Link to this comment

Night-Gaunt, - “It has been played over and over in one of her interviews about “a foreign nation’s boarder so close…”, and she wasn’t referring to Canada. Tina Fay‘s brilliance was in taking Palin and copying her in both word and mannerism.”

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I’m still not interested in defending Mrs. Palin. She can do that on her own. I’m interested in taking this occasion to point out the hatred, bigotry, sexism and overall nastiness directed toward this individual who thinks differently.

What you’ve done, by way of the various reasons I outline above, is completely twist what Palin actually said. And, like I said, she did not say she could see Russia from her backyard. A fictional character said it.

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In recent years Americans have had the habit of choosing amongst the cadre of governors. In Palin’s case, arguably in weak fashion, she was attempting to make the point that her state is the only State in the nation which abuts a major adversary. Every Alaskan Governor is quite unique in this.

There is a canyon difference between what Palin said and what a fictional comedic character said.

Hatred, bigotry, (sexism) and overall nastiness. I say almost the very same thing to my conservative friends when the same is directed toward President Obama other democrats.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 6:28 pm Link to this comment

Thank many of you for again proving my point.

Most progressives fail to recognize the daily bias in the elite media, I think, because they agree with it. To the progressive set the Newsweek cover simply represents “the truth”. Fully ignoring that nearly half the country will disagree.

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NOTE: TD will not allow me to post a link to the Newsweek cover I was referring to above.

—“Denied access”. “black listed item found”.

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By Colin Laney, November 17, 2009 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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It doesn’t matter that Palin doesn’t have a realistic
shot at the nomination;  running for president is a
lucrative gig in and of itself.  Pat Buchanan ran for
president.  Jesse Jackson ran for President.  George
Wallace ran for president for years and years. 
Running for president will get Palin a generous
expense account, TV time, book sales, and the
opportunity to be adored.  She can even pay herself a
salary out of campaign funds.

And it doesn’t matter if she doesn’t have big money
backers.  The teabagger mailing list will provide.

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By ThatDeborahGirl, November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm Link to this comment
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It’s futile to try to ignore Palin, however noble the effort may be. She’s a phenomenon…

Yeah. A phenomenon. Think earthquake, hurricane, avalanche and all other natural disasters. Dear God. How can anyone take this woman seriously? It truly sickens me when someone asks her or others if they feel she is serious contender for 2012?

If Sarah Palin is the best this country has to offer in terms of leadership, then it’s no wonder we accepted Bush for 8 years. He was frickin Einstein compared to Palin.

I keep hoping the timer on her 15 minutes will ping any minute now and yet, here she is again with her pathetic homely voice and another folksy-ism to make me shudder.

Someone…please…make it stop…that voice, that voice!

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By Hulk2008, November 17, 2009 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment

To Go Right Young Man:
    For somebody who doesn’t want to “defend Mrs. Palin” you sure have a number of posts here. 

    Shame on all those media elite that put moose guns to Sarah’s head and forced her to not only enter beauty pagents but to have her photo taken in running shorts !! It’s all their fault that she keeps popping up in front of cameras and TV and public addresses and a book.  Darn those elite !!  Maybe the paparazzi were hiding behind the Saucony shoe rack to get those pix.

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By Mary Ann McNeely, November 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm Link to this comment

Palin is a cross between Ma Barker, Aimee Semple McPherson, Lavrenti Beria and Pol Pot.

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By Blackspeare, November 17, 2009 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

Remember Richard Nixon——from ashes rises the Phoenix!

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By BobZ, November 17, 2009 at 1:09 pm Link to this comment

Just as we should not “underestimate” Sarah Palin, neither should we
overestimate her. Just because the media is infatuated with her and for
commercial reasons wants to continue putting her in the national spotlight,
doesn’t mean the rest of us need to go along with the program. The media has
no problem in identifying Dan Quayle as a lightweight but because Palin is an
attractive female, she gets a ton of slack. The fawing over her convention
speech by the media was unbelievable. Republican’s tried to make an issue of
Obama being a “celebrity”, but isn’t that what Sarah Palin has become, and isn’t
she making the most of it through the time honored tradition of “writing” a
quicky book and hawking it through the talk show circuit. Since Republican’s at
heart are only interested in making money, hence their obscession with tax
cuts, it is only natural that Palin saw the golden opportunity that McCain gave
her, and in our capitalistic tradition is making the most of it. She knows her
time on the national stage is limited and she well knows her intellectual
limitations which would destroy her in any primary run for the presidency. She
will make her money over the next couple of years and then retire back in
Alaska. The media created her and the media can destroy her if she runs for
the presidency.

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By Night-Gaunt, November 17, 2009 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

It has been played over and over in one of her interviews about “a foreign nation’s boarder so close…”, and she wasn’t referring to Canada. Tina Fay‘s brilliance was in taking Palin and copying her in both word and mannerism.

Go Right Young Man ever hear of the psychological term “mirroring?” It is when you take your characteristics place them on your opponent, exaggerate (optional), then condemn them for having such. So that is you. Your point of view is so extreme that the less extreme of the CMSM is fraudulently labeled “liberal” even though you haven’t been exposed to any real such material in your life. Listen to Pacifica Radio for a real example if you dare, if you can find it. Go to “Democracy Now” for news you will never hear on the CMSM or Fox. “Counter Punch” and “FaAIR” too are good sources not part of the Corporate Media.

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By srelf, November 17, 2009 at 11:27 am Link to this comment

True, Eugene, Evita and therefore Sarah, are important topics for discussion. If the
economy tanks further, we may be subject to another wave of fascist populism,
and it might not be so unpopular then.

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By FRTothus, November 17, 2009 at 10:49 am Link to this comment

I am sick to death of rogue and maverick politicians.  Those elected are supposed to represent those who elected them, not those who bribe them.  Representatives are supposed to be followers, not leaders.  I have yet to see any corporate politician (which includes practically all of them) poll their constituancy to see what position as their Representative they should take, or pay any attention to the MASSIVE world-wide protests that occurred BEFORE THE WAR (a first in human history, as far as I am aware). Take the difference between Bush’s “Old Europe” versus “New Europe”, for example.  “Old Europe” refused to participate in the empire’s illegal invasion and occupation, and since, according to the Bush dogma, they were not “with us,” they were therefore against us.  What differentiated “Old” from “New” Europe? In “Old Europe” the leaders followed the opinion of the majority of their citizens, and refused to go along with US conquest and war for the benefit of Wall Street and the US MIC, whereas the “leaders” of “New Europe” completely disregarded their populations.
“Democracy is not about trust; it is about distrust. It is about accountability, exposure, open debate, critical challenge, and popular input and feedback from the citizenry. It is about responsible government. We have to get our fellow Americans to trust their leaders less and themselves more, trust their own questions and suspicions, and their own desire to know what is going on.”
“[The ruling elites] know who their enemies are, and their enemies are the people, the people at home and the people abroad. Their enemies are anybody who wants more social justice, anybody who wants to use the surplus value of society for social needs rather than for individual class greed, that’s their enemy.”
(Michael Parenti)
“[American leaders] are perhaps not so much immoral as they are amoral. It’s not that they take pleasure in causing so much death and suffering. It’s that they just don’t care ... the same that could be said about a sociopath. As long as the death and suffering advance the agenda of the empire, as long as the right people and the right corporations gain wealth and power and privilege and prestige, as long as the death and suffering aren’t happening to them or people close to them ... then they just don’t care about it happening to other people, including the American soldiers whom they throw into wars and who come home-the ones who make it back alive-with Agent Orange or Gulf War Syndrome eating away at their bodies. American leaders would not be in the positions they hold if they were bothered by such things.”
(William Blum. Killing Hope)
“In many respects, we now live in a society that is only formally democratic, as the great mass of citizens have minimal say on the major public issues of the day, and such issues are scarcely debated at all in any meaningful sense in the electoral arena. In our society, corporations and the wealthy enjoy a power every bit as immense as that assumed to have been enjoyed by the lords and royalty of feudal times.”
(Robert W. McChesney, media critic and author)

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By Samson, November 17, 2009 at 10:41 am Link to this comment

To “Go Right Young Man”

Please, whatever you are smoking, share!  Your hallucinations are fascinating.

Yes, the TV sets are constantly full of left commentators like Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky and the advocates of single-payer health care.  They are on every channel all the time, and I if I’m lucky I can catch tapes of Chomsky running at the same time on all the major American news channels.

And oh yeah, there’s the live, 24/7 coverage of the majority of Americans who want these wars to end.  The coverage is so tilted towards them that I search in vain for an ex-general on TV.

And I loved the start of the NASCAR race where they had thousands of citizens forming a peace sign on the infield to honor America’s peaceful, non-interventionist tradition.  And the way every NFL team honored the local peace activists in each city.

And of course, Ralph Nader gets all the attention of potential 2012 presidential candidates, while poor Sarah Palin is reduced to sending out letters to her supporters by email.

Like I said, please share whatever it is you are smoking!  Its gotta be the good stuff!

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By rollzone, November 17, 2009 at 10:40 am Link to this comment

hello. my interest is in our energy future. it has been my opinion that oil barons are detrimental to world peace. because she stood up to them, and also helped develop the natural gas pipeline, i took interest in her. now that big oil is heavily cornering the photovoltaic market, as it partners with automobile companies for zero emission vehicles slated to platform in 2010, i am curious about her willingness to get in bed with the future oil barons: still manipulating global economies. any progress on ‘green industries’, by today’s idiot: is being hidden for dramatic impact during election fever, but beyond his upcoming failure at Copenhagen (to get us to pay for the transition of developing countries through the cap and trade tax initiative)- that whole ‘green coal’ campaign has gone up in smoke. our energy future policy is long overdue, and if she has a platform, i would be interested in hearing it. as a woman candidate, i have an opinion that time has come, if she had more experience in commercial negotiations- perhaps a position on Wall Street. Hillary as her VP would be a very interesting ticket. Hillary fits the article comparison much more closely, and she has always been a closet republican.

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By Samson, November 17, 2009 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

The Democrats are rightly catching heat for screwing us all on health care and expanding all of their wars.

So, quick, its time to churn out yet another Sarah Palin article.  The masses are restless and we need the distraction.

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By Anarcissie, November 17, 2009 at 9:00 am Link to this comment

KDelphi, November 17 at 3:09 am:
‘I dont find it hard to ignore Palin, nor most of this article. Its easy, Eugene, try it. ‘

The progs are fascinated with her.  I can understand that Republicans, in their present straits of intellectual poverty and disgrace, hope she will turn into a useful leader of some sort, or at least a media flack, but why the progs?  As I’ve said in regard to Limbaugh and Beck, it might be a sort of ideological pornography.  But it’s hard to figure.

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By Ouroborus, November 17, 2009 at 7:55 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, November 17 at 9:01 am #

What in heavens name are you doing here? Wasting your
considerable talents rummaging through the dumpsters?

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 7:22 am Link to this comment

Most progressives fail to recognize the daily bias in the elite media, I think, because they agree with it. To the progressive set this Newsweek cover simply represents “the truth”. Fully ignoring that nearly half the country will disagree.

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Newsweek Photo of Palin Shows Media Bias and Sexism - David Brody, CBN

NOTE: TD will not allow me to post a link to the Newsweek cover I was referring to above. 

—“Denied access”. “black listed item found”.

I’ve never had this happen before.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 7:13 am Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind,

I have no real interest in defending Mrs. Palin. I’ll simply say that your entire post proves my point. The hatred, bigotry, sexism and overall nastiness directed toward this individual is truly appalling.

First: You write as though rough politics and personal attacks were invented by Palin. That’s truly odd. It’s also narrow-minded to the extreme.

Second: A- Bill Ayers was a terrorist and has admitted it publicly several times. B- It is a fact that Mr. Obama began his run for the Senate in the kitchen of this self proclaimed terrorist. C- The first time Mr. Obama was asked about his relationship with the terrorist he claimed Ayers was simply a man from his neighborhood and, that their respective children attended school together. Well, this was a bold faced lie. Ayers children are adults now. Why did Mr. Obama feel the need to lie?

I can only suggest you re-check your facts.

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Want to prove your point? Here’s your opportunity. Can you show us a single instance wherein Gov. Palin claimed to be able to see Russia from her back yard?

After you fail to substantiate your misunderstanding you’ll be forced to rethink what you believe you know about Palin, the media, and politics in general.

Note: You see what I mean? Over 70% of democrats believe the demonstrably false.

Want to go toe to toe on idiotic statements made during campaigns? I would LOVE that. It would bring me great joy. How about 57 States our current president believes he visited during the campaign…..LMAO.

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By the tshirt doctor, November 17, 2009 at 6:10 am Link to this comment

if i was a democrat, i would put “Palin for President” bumper sticker on my car.  if they can get her popular, and if she wins the republican nomination, the next president will be Obama for sure.

like the rest of these commenter here, i’m sick of hearing the losers name.

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By idarad, November 17, 2009 at 6:01 am Link to this comment

Many thought even this badly informed, uncurious nation of the spoiled would not vote the village idiot of Crawford into the White House, yet it almost did twice and he won.  I wouldn’t put it past them to once again commit moral suicide for the sake of their morals.

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Go Right Young Man, November 17 at 8:26 am #

I do not believe Ms. Palin is yet qualified to be U.S. President but, the hatred, bigotry, sexism and overall nastiness directed toward this individual from the Left is truly appalling.

True hatred for those unlike themselves seems, nowadays, a prerequisite to being “progressive”. Sad. Extremely sad.
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ANOTHER right-winger re-writing history! Sarah Palin did and said things that opened herself up to attacks, usually because SHE fired the first shot.

When she accused Senator Obama of “pallin’ around with terrorists” it was an irresponsible warping of real events SO gross that it qualifies as a Swift-Boat Lie.  Her personal attacks on both Obama and Biden were designed to feed into every stereotype portrayed by YOUR party—that Obama is a Black Muslim, not even born “here” (despite McCain being born in the Canal Zone—not even part of the US today).

Palin’s inablity to handle the softest interviewers put her at the center of the target. (Remember: Katie Couric wasn’t the first to nail her as ignorant and incompetent, Charles Gibson was the first. That was the 2nd time Palin blew an interview SO completely she looked like an idiot.)

It is perfectly correct for the news media to hammer at a candidate’s lack of knowledge and understanding of situations and events.  But let us not forget that Palin was NOT asked very tough questions by Couric—she just couldn’t answer soft ones with a straight answer and Couric KNEW that was a great story, so she asked tougher ones.

As I have said: Tina Fey’s GREATEST impersonation was when she repeated Palin’s answers VERBATIM on SNL—that was what made Palin look ridiculous. When a comic impersonates you, they exaggerate your mannerisms and your words.  Fey’s genius was to NOT change a word of Palin’s.

Oh, and let’s not forget Palin’s TOTAL abuse of her power as governor and her abandonment of the job she was elected to do, not in the middle of a campaign but because she smells money and fame in the Lower 48 and running the government of Alaska isn’t very convenient.

Having met people last August in Juneau and from Wasilla, I got the sense that Alaskans are now glad to be rid of her—and many from Wasilla are looking to be recognized for their Iditarod performance, not their former embarassing governor!

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By Arthur Doohan, November 17, 2009 at 4:42 am Link to this comment
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There is a tragedy here.

It is that the USA finds such a self absorbed non-entity so appealing and commanding a figure.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 4:40 am Link to this comment

On another thought. It’s interesting that, when polled, almost 70% of democrats believe Sarah Palin claimed to be able to see Russia from her back yard.

It wasn’t Palin who made such an odd claim. It was Tina Faye doing a parody of Palin who said those words.

I’m deeply saddened that so many pay so little attention to the canyon difference between fact and fiction.

How very sad.

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By Go Right Young Man, November 17, 2009 at 4:26 am Link to this comment

I do not believe Ms. Palin is yet qualified to be U.S. President but, the hatred, bigotry, sexism and overall nastiness directed toward this individual from the Left is truly appalling.

True hatred for those unlike themselves seems, nowadays, a prerequisite to being “progressive”. Sad. Extremely sad.

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By politicky, November 17, 2009 at 12:53 am Link to this comment

Umm, I was going to say that Molly McMooseturd would be really easy to ignore if the media would just let her be what she is:

Irrelevant.

I can see by the comments that I’m not alone, lol

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By LostHills, November 16, 2009 at 11:56 pm Link to this comment

Why keep writing about this loser?
Move along folks, there’s nothing to see here….

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By KDelphi, November 16, 2009 at 11:09 pm Link to this comment

I dont find it hard to ignore Palin, nor most of this article. Its easy, Eugene, try it.

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