Military strategy in Afghanistan ( and probably in Iraq) are not meant to capture the “enemy,” or to ever end the war. To end the war would be to end the enormous profit flow of the defense contractors. To end our presence in either country would mean no one to safeguard the precious oil that Exxon-Mobil, Texaco, Chevron, Shell, British Petroleum, etc have their greedy eyes on! Democracy? PLEEZE! Just as in Vietnam, democracy hasn’t a thingto do with the reason why our military is involved in either Afghanistan or Iraq. IT’S THE MONEY STUPID!

Considering neither war is justified, moral, probably illegal and certainly unwinnable, one would think that our Noble Peace winning prez would pull us out of both countries! No? Perhaps he should return the Noble Peace prize as he certainly has not earned it!

The 9/11 event created the pretext for invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. 

Since the government’s official investigative commission report on that event was one of the shortest, cheapest and “forced” lies ever perpetrated on the American people, all resultant history flowing from it will be poisoned.

We have no moral position to win this engagement and should withdraw.

AGG, this country should never have gone into Korea or Vietnam, either, as I see it. But it did. We may not be able to change the past, but we can change the future if we grab the bull by the horns and end these stupid wars and the military-industrial complex that permits this country to be militaristic despite the attitude of its people to the contrary. (Note I say the people—not the Elites in Mordor-on-the-Potomac.)

I’m sorry to say that it looks like we won’t, though; that we’re living a Greek tragedy, much like the tragedy of Southeast Asia, wherein a proud, stiff-necked, hubristic country was humiliated.

Beyond Pain with Nowhere to Run:

...The 27-year-old Dayton man had entered the center’s emergency room about 1 a.m. Friday and requested some sort of treatment. But Huff did not get that treatment, police said, and about 5:45 a.m. he reappeared at the center’s entrance, put a military-style rifle to his head and twice pulled the trigger.

Huff fell near the foot of a Civil War statue, his blood covering portions of the front steps…

FULL STORY - OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/veteran-commits-suicide-in-front-of-dayton-va-center-656012.html

This is our son, everyone’s son! May his poor soul rest in peace, and those who really pulled the trigger, rot in hell!

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The War Industries product: an army of inexpensive, desposible, insensitive ‘Pharmaceutical Soldiers’; a wet-dream killing machine for the Corporatarchs of aggressive dominance, whose sole economy is the Never Ending Global War on Terror.

Remember, Zoloft and Haldal were two of the mind benders implicated in the Columbine shootings; these drugs, including the widely dispensed and popular Prozac known as ‘serotonin uptake inhibitors’ act in the same fashion as LSD, are handed out to these kids like it were candy.

WikiLeaks—Collateral Murder:
http://www.collateralmurder.com/

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

Khe Sanh. Need I say more?

One honestly, truly wonders HOW much longer the poisonous Status Quo can last. Well, it’ll last as long as the Elites in Mordor-on-the-Potomac can drag events out, but not even they, with all the power at their fingertips (and the support of the US mainstream media) can keep the Status Quo going forever. As the old saw goes, “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”

Too bad they’ll drag all the rest of us down with them ...

By the way, I came across this quote:

“Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media.”—Noam Chomsky

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

WikiLeaks—Collateral Murder:
http://www.collateralmurder.com/

Eugene, your title should read:
No Place Left to Hide Atrocities and Mass Murder

***“How many more will die before we leave the country?”***

Geez! I don’t know! For two decades now, the U.S. of A. has been pulverizing and rearranging the landscape of the Middle East, with depleted uranium munitions and other glorious pyrotechniques bursting in air; much of the area will remain too toxic for even a couple of Wal-Marts—so, your guess is as good as ours.

Although, as long as MSM is content in remaining MUM, and dishing out platitudes instead; the Industry of War will ‘secretly’ continue growing “that pile of Dead Bastards over there”. This does render the appearance of MSM criminal complicity to murder and cover-up; along with the brutal displacement of millions from their homes; currently living as refugees in tent cities, somewhere out there in nowhere land; out of sight, out of mind.

You can vainly flap your arms around and argue all you want about it being a, so called, War Zone. Who the hell turned it into a War Zone? – Let me remind you – The USA did! Now it seems to have morphed into a staging area for the Merchants of Death to display and test their latest and greatest hardware/software, deployed by medicated, desensitized soldiers.

***“And what will we have accomplished?”***

Not a thing! After brutally liberating millions of souls from their bodies, we’ve no doubt made many friends of their family members. Perhaps MSM should go out to the tent cities in nowhere land and greet some of them.

Ignorance is bliss – Until the Light is turned on.
Deal with it now and put the beast to rest or allow the continuing march of the, so called, Global War on Terror, until our Host becomes completely inhabitable.

WikiLeaks - Collateral Murder:
http://wikileaks.org/

Peace, Best Wishes and Hope

The US military recently came out with a report
“warning” that oil will peak in 2015.

The US military is THE world’s biggest oil consumer,
and as a result, US wars are single-handedly pushing up
oil prices and its demand for oil increases with every
war the US likes to indulge in.

The good news is that if oil does run out, will that
mean that America can no longer attack other nations
simply on a whim? I certainly hope so.

“When the day inevitably comes when we pack up and
leave Afghanistan, what will we have accomplished?”

What did we actually go in there to accomplish in the
first place? Why does “fighting terrorism” involve
attacking the Taliban who are not terrorists, who
never attacked anyone outside Afghanistan, and whose
ideology is similar to extremist Republicans, who
similarly are racist, would like religion to be part
of the constitution and believe women should have no
choice over their own bodies and destiny?

I don’t trust any reporter that is embedded with U.S.
troops, because it means they are on side with the
military operations. The truly independent journalist
of the kind we had in Vietnam who decides for himself
what is worth writing about, is what is needed here.

“I don’t think you find politics on the battlefield.”
The concept of a true battlefield no longer exists.
American soldiers largely fight from the air and drop
bombs on people below, whose faces they cannot see.
This is not a matter of ‘kill or be killed’, this is
as easy as playing a computer game, press some
buttons and watch them fall. There is little old-
fashioned bravery and heroism of the kind seen during
the Civil war, where the fight was real, and both
sides had an equal chance of victory.

When the richest and most powerful military on earth
is waging war against one of the poorest peasant
countries on earth, one side has the deadly technical
advantage (times a billion) and the other has his
wits and the knowledge of his own land. I don’t
applaud battles of this nature, nor the soldiers who
are fighting a war for no good reason.

In the 1800’s the British launched the first, equally disastrous Afghan War. They went into Afghanistan with 21,000 troops. Three years later one lone British soldier rode back into Jalalabad. The rest were never seen again. The Russians went into Afghanistan in the twentieth century and I think from memory they had hundreds of thousands of troops on the ground. Not only did they lose but the loss brought down the Soviet Union! Obama has given McChrystal until 2011 to do the un-doable and then America and their camp followers will be out of there too. As the song says: ‘When will they Ever Learn’. When you consider that not one Afghan citizen was involved in 9/11 and not one Iraqi citizen was involved in 9/11 you can see what a bloody, pitiful mess the whole thing is. Two countries destroyed by liars and war mongers.

I find this article disturbing.
Afghanistan is a war that is difficult to justify. The Taliban didn’t attack us and Al Qaida are long gone.
The “enemy” aren’t the Afghan people whose country we invaded and whose civilian population we threaten, it’s us.
Neither Obama nor his Generals appear know what they are about. Protecting civilians? We are the only people threatening them. He can protect them best by withdrawing US troops immediately and pursuing a non military solution to Afghanistans’ problems.
No matter what the essence of war really is, clearly this is a war that should never have happened and sooner it is shut down, the sooner journalists, political leaders and Americans can stop lying to themselves.

Mr. Robertson fails to grasp how wildly successful
we’ve been in Afghanistan.

Have we not spent billions in this unwinnable war and
are not those billions lining the pockets of
patriotic military industrialists?

Are not our repeated failures cause for joy, too -
joy at the prospect of further unwinnable warfare
that will give us ample justification to continue
moving precious men and resources into crackpot
military-industrial escapades?

Money is being made, my man, Big Money!

What’s not to celebrate about that?

It’s hard to scare people into supporting a war for a pipeline through some wild, god-forsaken mountains that belong to somebody else.
  It’s easy to scare peole into supporting a war to keep them safe from some amorphous “foreign devils” who were “responsible for 9/11” and might “strike again at any moment—maybe with nukes.”
  Take a look at the history portayed in the book on “Arabs” reviewed in TD today.  Then tell me about “terrorism” and who are the historical
“terrorists” in the Middle East.
  We in the West have a lot to live down before we can live up to what we preach.

It’s hard to scare people into supporting a war for a pipeline through some wild, god-forsaken mountains that belong to somebody else.
  It’s easy to scare peole into supporting a war to keep them safe from some amorphous “foreign devils” who were “responsible for 9/11” and might “strike again at any moment—maybe with nukes.”
  Take a look at the history portayed in the book on “Arabs” reviewed in TD today.  Then tell me about “terrorism” and who are the historical
“terrorists” in the Middle East.
  We in the West have a lot to live down before we can live up to what we preach.

Certainly, Dihey, Mr. Obama has no coherent strategy other than hoping that something causes the other side to give up first. He’s too afraid that if he withdraws, the Repubs will start screaming “soft on terrorism!”, the way they accused Truman of being “soft on communism!” (and kept that threat ready to use against every subsequent Demo president up till the Cold War’s end).

If you want to understand that Mr. Robinson is actually a shill for Mr. Obama, all you have to do is read the following nonsense from his pen:

“The Taliban will probably claim a victory over the “infidel” invaders, but the reality is that nobody “lost” the Korengal. The remote declivity doesn’t fit into the Obama administration’s new strategy of protecting the civilian population. A decision was made that the Korengal simply isn’t worth winning.
This is almost certainly the right call”.

a. No matter how you turn it Mr. Robinson it is a victory for the Taliban. They fought for it. The analog from WW2 is the capture of Rostock by the German army in 1942, a city which they had to retreat from under a sudden unexpected local pressure from the Red Army which had been badly mauled during the preceding weeks.
b. The notion that Mr. Obama has a coherent strategy for Afghanistan is the wildest sort of laughable nonsense.
c. If Korengal isn’t worth winning, something else is. Right, Mr. Robinson? Why don’t you tell us what you believe is worth “winning” in Afghanistan?
d. This call should have been made on day one of the Obama administration. More than one year and many casualties was added to this bloody enterprise. Apparently the losses of the Afghan army, our allies, were considerably larger than those of our forces.
I hope you have wiped the perpetual grin from your face forever after learning how many US soldiers were killed in that valley.

This is all just minutiae. Certainly I feel sorry that these guys have bought the Gung-ho, Be All You Can Be, Army of One propaganda but they bought it just the same. Now that they realize they’re just fighting another of the U.S.‘s Oil Wars (and, if they haven’t figured that out by now, there’s no hope for them), it’s time for them to just say “No more,” lay down their weapons and go home. Take the Dishonorable Discharge (the only thing honorable at this point in my view) and get the hell out.

Quibbling about tactics, passing references to “terrorism” (as if indigenous
fighters are terrorists), speculation about “mindsets” that opt for war for
psychological reasons are all just swill that to divert us from the geo-political
imperatives that fuel the endless American War (the location keeps shifting
but when was our last year of Peace?). In the late ‘90’s we started a push for a
pipeline from the Caspian Basin that would not go through Russia or Iran. I
won’t recap the abundant evidence that this is why we’re in Afghanistan except
to reference the British ambassador to Uzbekistan’s statement (unreported by
the US’s MSM) that this war is about the pipeline. He’d seen the documents to
prove it, and (common sense) if it’s about AlQaeda, whose (maybe) 100 fighters
are in the Northeast, why are we sending the 50,000 surge troops to Helmand
province in the south? What’s most troubling to me is the clear conclusion that
this means no American leaders take Global Warming seriously. The investment
for this pipeline would (along w/similar $ outlays in Iraq, & the bloated
military) would’ve more than built America a domestic, sustainable energy
system. Articles like this that drone on about insignificant details of our war-
du-jour waste the little time we have left.

Balkas, it can’t go on forever like this. Empires rise; empires also fall. I believe this one is in decline mode, and the Elites in this country either can’t or won’t realize it. So their efforts to maintain and expand the American Empire will just contribute to its eventual fall—and make the fall a lot harder when it comes.

Invasion and/or occupation is a success to warmasters, but not to soldiers.
Soldiers in afgh’n have no plans except the wishes not go into battle or when battling to try to survive.

US warlords also have wishes; they also have a plan; i.e., an end goal in mind.
And since all wars waged to date were waged for land, we can exclude ‘terrorism’, building democracy, winning hearts and minds, making US safer, preventing perils, etc., as reasons for invading afgh’n.

And no MSM collumnist had to date, as far as i know, dared say this.
Who the hell gets rich by fighting ‘terrorism’ [successful to a degree in US],or for winning hearts and minds of a people, etc?

One can only make money by controling the land and its people! Don’t US warlords almost utterly control ab 98% of land and people in US and US colonies?
And isn’t that the sole reason that the rich stay that way or are getting richer? tnx

Aye, PatrickHenry, and once more Ben Franklin will have been proved right—“Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other.”

Just another tombstone in the graveyard of empires.