it seems to me that fathers and mothers of the confederation have not put all the eggs in one basket.
presidency/administration is just one of many baskets and baskettes.
naturally, fathers [we all know mothers had a say here even if only in the bedrooms, kitchens, etc] expected that a
‘loonie’ may one day be elected for president.

of course, a loonie, doesn’t have to be one at all, but wld/cld/will be declared as such [if need be] by army, cia, fbi,
judiciary, MSM, shareholders, police, congress, bankers, ‘educators’, and even by some members of the administration.
and my wife will be, nevertheless, totally in the dark about all of it.
last night i told her that one of worst things that happened to us was the invention of electricity.
boooob, she said, For an intelligent man u sure talk stupid!! but look at all the pollution, death, and global warming
that it caused, said i.
and she shot back, I don’t give a damn about blogal warming. it is komunist propaganda!
well, that shut me up. and we went on to watch for the 5th time an episode of her favorite shows: the law and
order1,2,3,4; csi1,2,3,4; 48hours1,2,3,4,5.
btw, don’t miss out on the latest: the rifleman. tnx

Making nonsense from nonsense is what the Republicans are about, the potential of the Republicans winning in 2012 is spooky for me, because they reek of authoritarian power and control using class and real people warfare, while constantly saying they want smaller government, but with out saying…. ‘their (benefactors) way’!

For the Ron Paul fans out there, they can always vote for his symbolic son!

Ron Paul just like the rest of the Republicans have so much dirty laundry, real dirty laundry compared to Obama’s contrived birther not a citizen crap! I do not know about you, but most Republicans insult my limited intelligence with their cloned scripted sound bites and it appears the Democrats are not far behind! Hell Republicans and Ron Paul fans remind me of religious Zealots who believe facts are something to be pulled from their asses!

I have a feeling I am not alone in my views, Occupy Wall Street movement is a case in point!

We need to get the money out (fat chance!) and the corruption in our broken government makes me envy some of those ass hole dictators we keep hearing about, they do it their way too! I guess our mighty supreme court could gather themselves and make the supreme proclamation dictators are people too!

Fuck me, running…! I thought Sheer had more brains
than this.

Here’s a short quiz for the Ap-Paul-ing A-Paul-
ogists:

Do Ron Paul’s public (though I suspect he has
reservations) opposition to the Wars and his
(apparent) support for decrim/legalizing weed (I’ll
not even dignify the quixotic attack on the Fed) then
counter-balance the REST of what his agenda would
entail?
I.e.:
Do you trust CorpoRats/Markets to self-regulate in
ways which protect the People, and preserve the
common environment? (Have they ever?)
Do you trust states to protect women’s reproductive
rights, or the civil rights of minority/marginalized
citizens?

Simple yes or no answers will suffice…

As the “least nuts” Republican candidate ... and perhaps the only consistent one, Paul’s candidacy is only marginally worth consideration.  That he or one of his ilk could become President is frightening.

What is even more frightening is that the only other alternative is a supine corporately-owned Obama.

What is it about the current political process that deters or defeats all reasonable candidates before they even get to a public poll?  ... and what should be done to change that? 

Until that conundrum is solved the current crop of horrible choices will persist.

Hitler said a few interesting things too, and that led millions to overlook the
balance of his bat crap crazy nonsense and hundreds of thousands died !

New York’s ex mayor Ed Koch has defined Ron Paul as a bigot and is
supported by bigots.

That’s enough for any decent thinking American to vote for either
Bachmann, Gingrich or Santorum. Its too late for Cain.

I can’t buy into Paul’s belief that everyone should be on their own and should
make their own nest. It is not possible…In ancient Rome there were the rich and
the poor and the poorer.

That’s where we are headed because of greed.

I like a lot of what he says.. But it seems to me he has one giant screw loose,
and I don’t understand why it’s so loose.  Reduce the government by 1/3rd puts
tens of thousand of blacks out of work….to do what? Pick crops again? Cut the
defense budget and tens of thousand are out of work. These are not job
creators they are job destroyers…and are simplistic. We need a war against
greed. Maybe that’s a real winnable war. We need fresh idea to create jobs. Like
making defense contractors turn out consumer products so jobs are saved.

We know we need infrastructure work in the billions. Why can’t defense
contractors get involved. They all have state of the art technologies that can be
applied to roads and bridges etc. That’s an idea. That’s a real need. That’s
testable. That keeps a company going. That shifts some emphasis from killing
to growing, building and making our country more efficient etc.

cpost has never met Dennis Kucinich or thousands of other democrats who have
been marginalized by the dead armadillo press ! See Jim Hightower for a few
insights here cpoots !

@bluerootsradio:

Is it a municipal road, a state route, or a federal
highway?  Ron Paul’s position is that the federal
government shouldn’t be preventing the cities and
states from fixing their dang potholes: either by
taking the lion’s share of taxes and returning 3/10th
the pothole cost in a “grant,” or coming up with a
ridiculous list of regulations that results in one or
two megacorporations being the only ones who can
maintain compliance in pothole repair services.

Ron Paul has been doing a marvelous job “marginalizing” his own candidacy, just
listen to him and his followers ! By all means, give him access to the microphone
as often as he wants it !  The best yet was his referral to Veterans as entitlement
seekers, and the Veterans Health Care system as an unwarranted big government
intrusion on our constitutional government ! You GO Ron Paul ! Keep
talking(marginalizing) !It appears the Repubs don’t have a rational candidate to
offer up ! Do we truly smell a Jeb Bush run at the convention?  You can bet your
Cuban Mafia on it !

It’s easy to dismiss Ron Paul because of his bi-polar beliefs.  When he can tell me
who is responsible for fixing the pothole in the exact middle of the road, then and
only then will I give him serious consideration.

His campaign slogan might as well be “Let’s All Get Stoned And Watch Wall St. Run
Itself”

“It should not be difficult for those same editorial writers to treat Ron Paul as a profound and principled contributor to a much-needed national debate on the limits of federal power instead of attempting to marginalize his views beyond recognition.”

I really can’t disagree with this.

I don’t support him, and I don’t want him to win, because I don’t believe that kowtowing to the tenth amendment would appreciably improve much of anything in any state, while it would allow certain states to pass such draconian, discriminatory laws as to harm millions of women, children and minorities and cause another armed civil war (and I’m really not exaggerating…). I also don’t believe that eliminating, as opposed to reforming, the EPA, DOE, Federal Reserve, etc. would lead to anything but a backslide into even more egregious abuses of labor and capital control than we see today (at least in the US).

I think he should lose because he’s wrong and holds morally repugnant ideas. But dammit, he shouldn’t be written off because of the GOOD ones he has…

I agree with his statement on the military industrial
complex. This should be a big topic for debate that is
not being debated. On the other hand Ron Paul thinks
global warming is a hoax. That in itself is scary.

Using the ‘lesser of evils’ approach, even given his negatives, Paul has as good a chance at breaking up the duopoly as anyone.  His opposition of the last defense spending bill, presumably because of the inclusion of the DOD’s new ability to arrest US citizens on US soil, at least shows some regard for civil liberties, no? 

Ardee, what’s the alternative to Paul on the Republican side?

No Democratic candidate has the balls to say what Paul has said about the military- industrial complex and American militarism, not even Obama. No Democratic candidate has the balls to say what Paul has said about “corporatism”—the collusion of corporations and government in controlling the American people.

Obama is considerably to the RIGHT of Ron Paul on these issues. If the general election was Obama vs Paul, Lockheed-Martin and Halliburton would be lining up behind Obama. 

As for Paul’s views on the Federal Reserve and other matters, Paul at least deserves a fair hearing. He gets high marks for bringing the militarism issue before a Republican audience. But it is unlikely that the media will cover Paul’s views in any depth or detail. Mainstream television is very “good” at focusing on the candidates’ personal problems, and avoiding detail and complexity in the issues. Mainstream television always likes to take a look at all the wrong issues, ask the wrong questions. A good Frontline documentary might take care of that.

The other Republican candidates and the media don’t just hate Paul—they want to dismiss and ignore him completely as a crackpot.

I agree it would be nuts to repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I want to hear more, both Pro-Paul and Anti-Paul.

Ron Paul is a racist homophobe and anyone who cherry-picks his blather beucase “he has made the most sense of the Republican candidates” is a fool.

And I do not choose my words lightly.

http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2011/12/28/a-very-delicate-maneuver/

Those of us who have attempted to shine the light of reason and truth on the politics and personal life of Ron Paul have encountered scorn and derision from the libertarian cultists that make up Paul’s coterie.

I doubt that most claiming to be progressives in support of Paul are what they claim, if only because I tend to credit progressive thinkers with intellect and the ability to see the truth of libertarian politics.

I fail to see the point of this article, frankly, as it contains little factual content to explain why Paul is marginalized. Those who claim Paul is antiwar fail utterly to understand that his isolationism is simply ridiculous. Those who hang their hats on his war against the Fed overlook that it is his war against government, not his believe in regulatory powers of said government, that hangs, like the hidden bulk of an iceberg, below his public statements.

The same reasoning that Mr. Scheer uses to tout the Paul candidacy could be used to the same purpose for the Gingrich race. It woud have the same lack of credibility too. Once the race is run the Paulistas will return to the dark places they claim as their own between campaigns, perhaps those “progressives” who claim allegiance to Paul can read up on Libertarian politics and be better informed and thus make better choices next time out.

Ayn Rand is dead, libertarians would kill all the poor and weak.

“Paul, the Gulf Coast congressman whose 2008 presidential run excited libertarians nationwide, even though he didn’t get much traction overall, is considered by many to be the ‘father of the Tea Parties.’

It is hard to know where Paul fits into the Tea Party landscape. Paul supporters say he launched the movement in 2007 when he raised $6 million in a one-day, Web-based fundraiser on the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. His call for limited government and ending the Federal Reserve also resonates loudly in the Tea Party movement.”

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/a-tea-tray-in-the-sky/

It appears ‘The American people’ have a strange sense of who is a worthy candidate.

The interesting litmus test of who is a zionist shill is unfolding before our eyes whereas Paul is deemed unelectable…..by who’s standard?