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Posted on Apr 3, 2007
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An American flag waves behind razor wire and fences within the prison compound at the Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

By Robert Scheer

Onward Bush’s soldiers, torture as ye may, but do it in Guantanamo, and not in the USA.

On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court turned down the habeas corpus plea of a Canadian national, captured in Afghanistan when he was 15 years old, because the possible deprivation of his human rights was not conducted on “U.S. soil.” The court, with three judges dissenting, cited a law passed by the Republican-controlled Congress last year that the fate of Guantanamo prisoners will be determined by secret military tribunals outside the purview of U.S. courts.

The case was brought on behalf of Omar Khadr, one of roughly 380 Guantanamo prisoners and one of only 10 finally charged with a crime. He has been in custody five years.  So much for the right to a speedy trial, not to mention a fair trial, which after years of systematic torture is dubious.

That was the judgment of Lt. Col. Stuart Couch, who refused to continue with prosecution of another prisoner, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, one of 14 “high value” Guantanamo prisoners. The refusal of Couch—whose Marine buddy was the copilot of United Flight 175 before it smashed into the World Trade Center—to go along with the charade was not taken lightly. In a chilling account in The Wall Street Journal, “The Conscience of the Colonel,” by Jess Bravin, Couch recounts how he came to be convinced that the confession of Slahi was obtained after torture.

Couch, a prosecutor at Guantanamo, inadvertently witnessed other prisoners being tortured, but he was denied access to the man he was prosecuting, who suddenly began telling his captors what they wanted to hear after being subjected to the “varsity program.” That’s the nickname for the Special Interrogation Plan which then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld authorized. In cooperation with a military investigator, Couch was able to ascertain details of the defendant’s torture, which subsequently have been documented in other official investigations.

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Aside from the beatings, water-boarding, stress positions and sexual degradation that have been the norm at Guantanamo, Slahi was taunted with details of his mother’s incarceration and rape in an elaborate hoax by an officer who claimed to be representing the White House. One hopes the Iranian captors of those British sailors do not learn of our modern Western ways of obtaining information.

Couch does not claim Slahi is innocent of all charges but rather that the evidence is not believable because of the methods used to obtain it and the fact that it has not been independently corroborated. This is a critically important observation, because the defendant is one of the “high value” prisoners, all of whom were presumably similarly treated, who provide our basic understanding of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001.


The official narrative of that tragedy is recorded in the 9/11 commission report, where it is admitted that the credibility of the key evidence is highly questionable. “Assessing the truth of statements by these witnesses ... is challenging. Our access to them has been limited to the review of intelligence reports. ... We submitted questions for use in the interrogations, but had no control over whether, when or how questions of particular interest would be asked. Nor were we allowed to talk to the interrogators so that we could better judge the credibility of the detainees and clarify ambiguities in the reporting. We were told our requests might disrupt the sensitive interrogation process.”

That “sensitive interrogation” in the case of Slahi, according to Senate testimony of Air Force Lt. Gen. Randall Schmidt, assigned by the Pentagon to investigate conditions at Guantanamo, was conducted by an interrogation chief who the general concluded “was a rogue guy,” a “zealot” who “essentially was having a ball.”

Aside from the sadistic example being set by the United States for the world, the other cost is that torture does not produce credible intelligence results or legally recognized convictions of the guilty, even employing the sorry military tribunal standard accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court.

The only prisoner convicted to date is the Australian “Taliban” David Hicks, who, after being attached to the most heinous of crimes by the United States, last week was given a mere nine-month sentence to be served in Australia. The plea bargain held one key element for the White House: that Hicks accept a media gag order and waive his rights to sue the United States over his treatment. The point, once again, is not to get at the truth about 9/11 but rather to make George Bush look vigilant, despite the facts, in fighting his phony war on terrorism.

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By kevin culp, January 13, 2010 at 1:25 pm Link to this comment
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the training that the soldiers in afghanistan go through before hand entitles the same torture techniques they used on the prisoners. the soldiers themselves did all the things that the prisoners are made do. so shut up!

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By roger muldavin, April 12, 2007 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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TruthDig requested a comment.

If the person immediately above is “Walter Lippmann” it is a triple honor.

I wrote a reply some days ago, “retyped[d] the word [I saw] here”, and after reject several times, gave up.

The possible TruthDig security against Robot Responses and maybe User Security may have been the space between the alphabet and two digit number.

Because I am an ACLU board member in our local Michigan Northwest around Traverse City, and a computer buff, have my antenni out for NSA type interceptions.

My paranormal-paranoia (p-p) must be genetic; my father, Albert, told me that in his village in North Eastern Poland, close to their home, he viewed a pile of bodies of his villiagers, some 120 bodies, saw a red star rising above it, he and his family got out and landed in NYC, NY circa 1911.

And just last week on NPR I hear a discussion:

Half of the six million peoples killed in the NAZI concentration camps were Polish Jews. The other half were other dissenters or roundees during the “cleansing”.

The Kosacks, horseman with swords, apparently did the butchering.

In my volunteer work on the local ACLU board, especially the phone complaints committee I have, over 30 years, spoken to a number of vets, two from Korea, three from Vietnam.

It is difficult to even writewhat a number have said, but their discriptions of seeing a pile of bodies, Chinese at the Yalu River bordering Korea, a pile of Vietnamese, blood running into the water.

This must be the kind of memory that method actors must use to envoke emotions, and I wasn’t even there.

Oh yes, Michael Moore is located North of TC, Elk Rapids, that is a testiment to Michigan’s peoples.

Our Native American Casino, South of where I live is some 20 miles as the Sand Hill Canes Fly, was a former Berkeley, CA Environmental Activist.

The politics is mixed, farmers, workers, retirees, ... back to the landers, organic, self sufficiency dedicatees, and so forth into the future.

My belief is this: NSA type is practicing active Counter Intelligence, if nothing more than a Novelistic Exploration, it would be possible to practice a sort of “unkind” psychic assination, delay e-communications, even invent “false flag” web sites, what a great job for a recent gratuate from our Universities.

Yes, Michael Moore, 911 was only a drop of blood in the bucket, Guantana-merria, gee wha, Grantana Mere Raw material, etherical, torch your own brothers and sisters, be a NAZI,... sounds crazy, for the lazy ranch dressing in uniforms.

But to be constructive, the HomeLand Defense Trailers did get some use after the “Acts of GOD” took out New Orleans, but HLD, the old FEMA, had other plans, to house the dissenters.

Crematoriums?  No, temporary campouts in barrian places, were it looks like we all would see many faces, of real diversity and the people unite to throw off their Cheneys.

And that guy on the top pole, Hitler Reincarnated, sure that can be debated, it is not too be-lated.
Just wait until our Economy is over inflated, people hurting more than now for food, housing and care.

To save this “One Nation Under Frog” no telling that the top-dowers will even get Moore Odd.

Got to stop, the plot is falling apart of the solution, melting before the ice, the die is cast, or the cast will die.

Humor become reality and it is tragic,
best rmuldavin

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By BeeJiggity, April 12, 2007 at 10:48 am Link to this comment
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62097:

Canada, then, is neglegent in it’s enforcement of the rights it recogizes when considering nations like N. Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and the plight of talented female basketball players in the state of New Jersey in these great United States.

Damn that Canada.

Whata croka goo.

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By eyes of the world, April 11, 2007 at 7:11 pm Link to this comment
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“Onward Bush’s soldiers, torture as ye may, but do it in Guantanamo, and not in the USA.” ...

TOO LATE.

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By vet240, April 7, 2007 at 3:51 pm Link to this comment
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The Supreme Court of the United States of America sanctifies and validates a law passed by the Republican controlled Legislature that says we can kidnap (take into custody) anyone we want to as long as we don’t do it on American soil.

We’ve gone from “Give me your poor and hungry” to “America can do anything with your poor and hungry we want to.”

I remember a book written about the evolvment of the Natzi Party some years back. The author had a background in psychiatry. In the end he stated the most frightening thing he learned in his studies for the book was that those who constructed that madhouse called The Third Reich were in fact “normal” in every sence of the word.

We are witnessing another bunch of “normals” doing the same thing to America.

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By roger muldavin, April 6, 2007 at 7:40 pm Link to this comment
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accidentally hit unregister key, I was responding to truthdig request for comments, just posted, no immediate response, so I’m re-registering.

Best of the UCB Sixites, now Michigan 07’s.

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By roger muldavin, April 6, 2007 at 7:35 pm Link to this comment
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Hit wrong button, got notice that I was terminated from digtruth, intended to reply to request by digtruth to comment again?

Who sets, standards, and sanctions for Judgment? (who 3-S/J)


Now if a top downer hits the nuke button, we got movies that play that Dr. StrangeLove decision, Cowboy riding the nuke bomb as it head for the target from the bombbay doors.

“Hee Haw!”

Notice even that utterance got once candidate for Press Media Scatched from running, replaced by Vietnam Vet Kerry. I supported both.

We UC Berkeley Sixties’ radicals helped run editor Robert Sheer for US House, lost my a small margin 47/51 against Lyndon Johnson’s man, Coheland (sp).

Actually I never forgot my changing a sign in the Oakland CA “Sheer for Congress” to “Sheer for Cong”.  Robert saw that and appeared really temporarily angry.  I guess it got taken down.

So much for my sense of humor.  But Robert Sheer was and is still a hero of mine, bright, courageous, lucky to have married a beautiful “Blond Princess”, Reporter for LA Times, now Truthdig.

He broke through the barriers of lies in the 60s with a small pamphlet exposing how John Kennedy induced a Vietnamese man in a New York Catholic Seminary to be installed into the So. Vietnam government, a coup of sorts, that pamphlet appears to have played a part in the anti-Vietnam War Movement.

But I digress.

I am spreading out on the blogosphere since NYT is closing their NYT Space and Cosmos Forum, it appears their Science Forums are undergoing a change, if not all the others too.

Since I read that research observing within our retinal neurons, 20 and 40 at a time, that first two neurons connect and establish some pattern recognition connections, then move on to others, maybe like a sociogram, there the numbers of “channels”, N = n(n-1)/2, where “n” are the number of connectiing neurons.  That is, the number of channels of communication rises as the square of n.

Point is that in reading a blog, it takes time and a kind of mind that takes concentration, a difficult state to reach in a household, as I now live.

But the NYT Space and Cosmos I tried to keep up with the sometimes rambling and thankfull, emotional, discussions, soon only a handfull or more named participants remained, I began to “know” and I did what the retina appears to do.

Physorg.com from UK has been a leading source of science news, I suspect my former room mate at UCB must work there, a Physics PhD in High energy Physics, switched field to psychoanalytical psychotherapy (no medical degree required) he is now or was recently working to help recovering “Child Soldiers”.

Again the issue I writeto is the evolving Internet as a means of ‘collective and effective consciousness’.  Yes a stand-up, sit-down commie medium.

I contrast the AOL blogs with blog Truthdig, it is a matter of “scale”, AOL many posters, Dig much less.  It’s about money, advertizers and staff.

The more posters, the less pre-editing, if any; even Robots can be called up, I like Google, their founders are radical (to the root of the tree of knowledge and liberty), ... it is too vast for me to simplify.

The task on the struggle for a lasting Peace will be enhanced by the Internet and intranets, global and local, it is stunning to be a part of this.

So to be effective some combinations of unrestrained (collective peer review) and emotional expression can be worked.

It starts with those on the bottom and somehow the top downers will have to have to the study the instruction manuals, an oath is not enough.

best, rm

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By Frank A. Bowne, April 6, 2007 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment
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I remember growing up in the US and being taught that the Japanese soldiers in WWII were monsters because they believed that they were relieved of moral and legal constraints once they left Japanese soil.

Now I see US adopting the same thinking.

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By Jonas South, April 5, 2007 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment
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Last time I looked, both habeas corpus and the right to a speedy trial are our rights enshrined in the Constitution. Foreigners held by us on foreign soil, however, was not addressed in that document, but WAS addressed by the late unlamented Congress, Democrats included. This shameful law forced the majority of the court to rule for Bush.

If the case had been argued based on our own laws which obligate our government to follow long standing international agreements that Congress had ratified, the outcome may have been different.

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By Druid, April 5, 2007 at 8:54 am Link to this comment
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The United States is becoming more and more like our European counterparts in law and politics. 

Our laws are becoming more onerous, arbitrary.  The U.S. can prosecute an American for going over seas to have sex with little girls in Indochina, can indite drug kingpins in Mexico, Central America and South America who never set foot in the U.S..  But refuses to protect the most basic human rights when it counters their grotesque exhibition of wanton power.

Our politician’s have become just as acrimonious as those in Europe, manifested mostly by the American Right that has lost all resemblance to their past acumen and allegiance to small government, individual rights and the right to protect one’s self.

We are witnessing the return swing of the political pendulum here in the United States and not too soon.  If you are a republican who believes in the old ways of your party, it is time to support the Democrats until your side rids itself of it’s short sighted, corporate sycophants, power by all means, money over blood degenerates who showed the World how inept and cruel America can be.

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By Thomas, April 5, 2007 at 8:48 am Link to this comment
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The more I study the events of 9/11, the more convinced I become that there was military involvement.  Look at the only tape provided of the Pentagon strike,  a camera installed to catch parking cheets about two feet off the ground.  It shows virtually nothing but a blur of motion.  Look at the Pentagon strike swf.  It shows numerous cameras that ring the roof of the pentagon.  Also there were numerous other cameras which would have recorded the strike such as the freeway cameras, the secutity camera at the Pentagon gas station And the nearby hotel where the staff played the tape over & over before it was confiscated by the F.B.I..  All these video tapes were taken by the F.B.I. and have never been seen by the public or the 9/11 commission.  Try the IN PLANE SITE video.  It shows some incredible anomalies which have never been addressed in any official manner.  What is that bulge on the bottom of the second plane??  It can be seen from three or four different videos at different camera angles and is ominously never mentioned in main stream media.  So they use torture?  Well huhhh,  how else to control the story can U think of???  Secret arrest, secret detention and torture,  and secret execution all O.K.ed by all the patriot act and the military commissions act.  It this how the American experiment ends??  With the military take over of the courts and the law?  Too bad that the U.S. Supreme Court has less courage than the Pakistan High Court.

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By Genrikh Yagoda, April 4, 2007 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment
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Daughter like Mother-Israel like USA
Mass killers and thinking smart. Both dolts!

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By Christopher Robin, April 4, 2007 at 7:57 pm Link to this comment
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I think there will soon come a day when people will be ashamed to admit they voted for George Bush.

C-Span 4/4/2007 8:41:31 PM
Washington Journal Entire Program
George Brent Mickum, Lawyer for Guantanamo Bay Detainees
Michael Toner, Former Federal Election Commission, Chairman (R) & Bryan Cave, Partner
John Cochran, Congressional Quarterly, Senior Writer   03:00.
Washington, DC

The morning show first guest is Guantanamo lawyer George Brent Mickum, and he discribes his work at Guantanamo.

C-Span Video link:
http://www.c-span.org/rss/video.asp?MediaID=30372

Highly recommend.

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By Lyle Brown, April 4, 2007 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment
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I find all of this so reprehensible, and so true to form for a government such as ours. We, our English flunkies,  our Israelis minions and our fellow demons really are a crowd to terrify even the bravest heart and certainly to torture a confession out of a helpless prisoner. “honi soit qui mal y faire.” Phillip Wylie was right, “America is not a melting pot, it is a cesspool,” to this very day.

The “Pledge…” for me has always ended “with liberty and justice for some.”

How dare they continue this cant about liberty, justice, freedom, and fair play…

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By TAO Walker, April 4, 2007 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment
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Even though the events of 9/11/01 have the sulphurous stench of black-ops all over them, still relatively comfortable people like Robert Scheer here continue to hold their noses and parrot the party-line.  No doubt admitting what is, to the non-vested among us, patently obvious will quite literally tear America’s already badly frayed virtual reality to shreds.  Still, it is doomed much sooner than later to total exposure anyhow.

So it seems only commonsensical to get some distance beforehand from what is bound to be one hell of a wreck.  Having to give-up one’s most chereshed positions (not to mention possessions) to reach some firmer, and higher, ground will probably prove too much for many still hoping to salvage something for their selves, at least, from the general calamity. 

It has this old Indian wondering what it really means to be “progressive,” here in these latter days.

HokaHey!

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By Donovan, April 4, 2007 at 3:23 pm Link to this comment
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For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Donovan Hixson

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By Donovan, April 4, 2007 at 3:22 pm Link to this comment
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“...a law passed by the Republican-controlled Congress last year that the fate of Guantanamo prisoners will be determined by secret military tribunals outside the purview of U.S. courts.”

The quote above makes me think that the following could have been written with Bush & Co. in mind:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:


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By carlito paquito-rivera, April 4, 2007 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment
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No one ever mentions why torture is completely antithetical to the Geneva Convention and U.S. Military rules and regulations so here it goes:  Jesus was tortured.  Jesus was tortued. Jesus was tortured.  What clearer validation does one need to comprend.  Se hablar Espanol?

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By your conscience, April 4, 2007 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment
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close gitmo. give it back to cuba. bush is not president; two stolen elections proven. NULLIFY everything he did, including the ” supreme court justices ” i.e., corporate looting facilitators.
These ” suspects ” had nothing to do with 911. the same people who killed JFK pulled this caper. You can’t ejudicate this crime in secret. The fact bush is trying to do that, plus his record of life long sadism makes it obvious to all but the status quo super ego that the past 7 years have been one long black mass. Schmidt was ” having a ball, ” indeed. so is boy bush and his whole klavern.
this is all beneath civilized life.

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By Steve Hammons, April 4, 2007 at 11:19 am Link to this comment
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Intelligence operations including interrogations can take many forms. Decent and ethical behavior by some US intel personnel seems to be taking a backseat to torture and other questionable activities under the leadership of the Bush-Cheney administration.

At what point are we Americans corrupted by torture and sadistic behavior carried out in our name?

And, will those who violated US and international laws be held accountable?

Looking into the minds and hearts of our adversaries, as well as ourselves, seems crucial to achieving successful outcomes now and in the future.

The article referenced below may be of interest regarding these areas:

“Intelligence, psychology and human heart: All are needed for success in war and peace”

PopulistAmerica.com  
Populist Party of America
March 31, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/intelligence_psychology_and_human_heart

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By Ga, April 4, 2007 at 11:05 am Link to this comment
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To many—to TOO many—Americans, the Hicks verdict wil be proof that Hicks was a terrorist and that Guantanamo Bay is full of terrorists.

Poor, poor mis-lead Americans. Things are only going to get worse for you! Soon you will be seeing enemies everywhere!

All the world is going to be filled with “terrorists” who want to kill you, because you like it that way!

That way you get to be as arrogant and violent as you want! Woohoo!

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By Jackie T. Gabel, April 4, 2007 at 10:47 am Link to this comment
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RE: “The point, once again, is not to get at the truth about 9/11 but rather to make George Bush look vigilant, despite the facts, in fighting his phony war on terrorism.”

04/26/2002 - Updated 12:55 PM ET— Ex-CIA chief revitalizes ‘truth serum’ debate By Kevin Johnson and Richard Willing, USA TODAY — WASHINGTON — Former CIA and FBI director William Webster said Thursday that the United States should consider administering “truth drugs” to uncooperative al-Qaeda and Taliban captives at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and elsewhere to try to obtain more details about terrorist operations.

>>>>>> In light of all this

the glib recommendation would be to administer “truth serum” to all top administration officials; but seriously, all evidence about this dreadful adventure (the phony War of Terror and the rise of the Torture Gulag) points to one thing: a goal to literally terrorize everyone — scare the world witless.

These myths must be dispelled: the Myth of 911 - the Myth of Islamofascism - the Myth of Blow Back - the Myth of Perpetual Islamic Sectarian Civil War. On these Myths are based the Global War of Terror,  the Torture Gulag and the Invasion and Occupation of the Middle East (expansion now being planned).

As the regime continually sites these Myths in its expanding imperialistic Middle East adventure and near-systematic suppression of domestic civil liberties and human rights everywhere, it becomes clearer by the day, these Myths must be disempowered. In particular, the most distorting aspect in this entire theatre of geopolitics, the most cynically lethal weapon of consistent choice by imperialists from the days of the Roman hegemons, FALSE FLAG TERRORISM must be literally broken before their faces.

Support 911 Truth - End War of Terror

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By kungfublood, April 4, 2007 at 10:43 am Link to this comment
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I would respectfully suggest that these lick-spittle “justices” go to the dictionary and look up all the words that they so obviously do not understand. Words such as “inalienable” and “rights” and then try to put them together in their minds harts and courtrooms!

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By Quy Tran, April 4, 2007 at 10:35 am Link to this comment
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Morals of the U.S. Supreme Court ? Why should we waste our time to talk about these luxurious items at this organization ? It doesn’t have one tiny piece of them.

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By James Yell, April 4, 2007 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
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We do not have the right and we are obligated to observe proper humane treatment of the accused. Nuremburg Trials, which we amongst others used against the crimes of the Nazi’s made Crimes Against Humanity everyone’s concern, Bush/Cheney are deluded or they our out right liars when they say they have the right to define brutal treatment as “none torture”. As long as the entire administration of Bush/Cheney are not repudiated by this nation, than as a democracy we are all guilty for Bush/Cheney criminality. I was very disappointed to see legal action blocked against the crimes of the arch criminal Rumsfield. If we haven’t the courage to try him than get the Hague to do it for us.

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By Andrushka, April 4, 2007 at 8:49 am Link to this comment
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What can we expect from an Administration and its head that knows nothing but lying. “We do not torture” etc….. How can we stop this degradation of the UNited States in the world. The Bush administration has become the laughing stock of the world with its numerous claims of moral values…. Thank God, there are some people rising above this very low level of integrity.  The whole thing is disgusting, obnoxious.

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By fpal, April 4, 2007 at 8:30 am Link to this comment
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Canada has a “Bill of Rights” that applies to all people anywhere on the globe.

For the U.S., this ruling degrades its global moral standing and is contemptuous of the idea of equal rights and democracy.

Not only is truth a casualty of Bush’s phony war but also America’s most cherished political and legal principles.

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By KISS, April 4, 2007 at 7:44 am Link to this comment
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Why is the word “Duress” never used? My dictionary defines duress as ” compulsion by threat or force; coercion; constraint. ” It would seem that the gag order is non-enforceable. And why have are learnered law universities been cowering over this barbaric, obscene, and hubristic evil of George W. Bush and Co? When Universities ignore the rights of the individual and cower to a Nazi-type government, what can the rest of us expect? Never before have I seen a systematic dismantling of the individual rights, as I have seen under this administration.

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By roger muldavin, April 4, 2007 at 7:17 am Link to this comment
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Thanks for your report on recent Canadian G-detainee’s standing up to the USA’s Guantanamo, Afgan-Iraq War Behaviors.

A test for us all as individuals, groups, collectives to turn back what is clearly now seen as a overt un-Constitutional Coup to establish a dictatorship not by the vast majority of USA peoples, but by a few who must feel some inner direction (id) and the outward frustrated feeling, (off) the “system”, ... that of $money$, will sustain it and the horror they are creating is justified.

Their best defense would be an “insanity plea”, with no capital punishment, except taking their money to be given to their many victims. 

In fact, maybe we should divest the robo-death corporations until their wealth become that of the victims and their families, a kind of feedback scheme designed to take away power when it is not used for non-violent peace.

And so forth, on into the future while it lasts, best rm.

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By Walter Lippmann, April 4, 2007 at 6:07 am Link to this comment
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We’re getting a powerful demonstration here of how Washington would impose “democracy” on the rest of Cuba by what it has already been doing in the sliver where it can pretty much do what it wants.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if there were more officers who took their obligations and oaths seriously like this Lt. Couch? There ARE people whose moral compasses still function: Lt. Ehren Watada, Sgt. Carlos Lazo, Lt. James Yee, come to mind.

There are others coming forward every day, but not enough and not soon enough. They are set a good example of both conscience and of understanding. This Lt. Couch looks pretty heroic, in my book.

Thanks for the commentary and discussion space.

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