Sodium-Na, September 17 at 3:19 am

Still around , just less frequently for now, and awaiting your response to my offering.

For ardee:

ardee,

Thanks for letting me know that you have already read the post about President Obama.

Enjoy tha Salmon season and I hope that you will have a big catch. I take two capsules of 1000mg Salmon Omega-3 daily.

And come back safely in December-in one piece!

Anarcissie, September 12 at 12:22 pm Link to this comment

Ardee—perhaps you should try humor.  The further people depart from obvious truth and reason, the easier it is to make fun of them.

I understand your point and only note that I find nothing whatsoever funny about that posters attempt to defraud us and bend the debate to the ridiculous. His intentional attempt to portray a vast left wing conspiracy against the “poor beleaguered Tea Party” is absurd, perhaps it contains within its absurdity a certain humor. It certainly is a blatant and clumsy effort at best.

He has filled this forum with such propaganda, and so often, as to be worthy of some folks humorous japes, but also he must understand that others find his intentional effort to defraud and diminish political debate not at all funny.

As a footnote I would recall that he has completely ignored the mention of that Montana Tea Party leader being removed from his post due to his calls for violence. Yet he insists upon using an isolated, unfortunate and understandable incident, one not connected to any left wing group at all, as “proof” of something rather larger…This is humorous? Then Josef Goebbels must have been a laugh riot!

Sodium-Na, September 16 at 3:52 am

Hello, Friend.

Yes it is hard to contact me these days, as it is every year when Salmon season opens! I hold the noble Chinook ( or King) Salmon in the highest regard, far higher indeed than I hold my last wife! OK literary license…..

I have read the post in question, and did so when first you posted it in fact. I do see you as a sincere and honest citizen, one who operates within a code I think is admirable indeed. I do not hold your vote against you , both because I know you to be sincere and doing the best you can with what you’ve got and because George Walker Bush was and is a stain upon this nations repute.

Your two year rule has come to fruition now and I wonder what is your opinion of Barack Hussein Obama’s Presidency so far. Do you find him an object of hope? Do you place your faith in him as a leader?

Let’s face it, the candidacy of Obama was and remains a highlight of the progress we have achieved as a people. As was that of Hillary Clinton in fact. Fitting entry into the twenty first century. It was a bit difficult not to vote for either one actually, or would have been had I been a registered Democrat and allowed to vote the primary.

It was also hard not to vote for the Obama Presidency, or , as you suggested, against the ridiculous Sarah Palin. But I felt then and do now feel that higher issues were at stake, that this was not the time to vote for a vastly inexperienced and right of moderate candidate. Nor was it time to abandon my belief in, and work towards, the emergence of third party politics in this nation.

I am convinced utterly, and these last two years have strengthened my belief, that the two major parties march to the corporate drummer, that voting either party is a vote for the creeping (galloping) fascism that overtakes us all. I think, as I have already said, that these last two years is simple proof of that conviction.

Nice to hear from you and I will respond, as I do cherish our little conversations. Just remember that, until the 16th of December I will be on one or another of California’s beautiful rivers rather frequently trying to entice a noble creature to do battle with me.

ardee,

I wonder whether or not you read my earlier post,just one below this post. If you have already done so,please let me know. Thank you.

It seems to me that it has become hard to contact you,these days,for unknown reason/reasons to me.

For ardee:

ardee,

I hope that you will read this message from me:

I was cruising through older TD’s columns in the “Report Section” when through sheer accident I came across your inquiry,addressed to me,on the thread that followed Bill Boyarsky’s column entitled,“Fox and Friends Trying to Bully and Buy Their Way Back to Power”.

I have felt obliged to respond to your inquiry, since I hold your sincerity,honesty and intent for the common good,in high regards. Therefore,I have to ask you to go back to the thread that immediatly followed Boyarsky’s column and read my response to your inquiry. It is rather a lengthy response,due to the respect I hold for your human qualities.

It is always a pleasure to hear from you,ardee,in fact from all good persons.

Please try what Anarcissie,whom I also hold in high regards,has suggested: HUMMER. Some posters do not really deserve more than jokes,if you know any that fits the occasions. If not just ignore him or them.

Cheers….

So that everyone will understand the motives or veracity or abilities of ardee I offer the following.

I did a search using ardee’s favorite search engine, Google, in the exact manner in which I previously suggested.  I used the search term; “New Orleans+GOP fundraiser+NOPD blotter”.  This is what I found on the very first hit page.

Young Republican Couple Savagely Beaten In New Orleans, Friday ...
Apr 13, 2010 ... He says New Orleans police are investigating the incident and the governor’s ...

ALSO

Apr 18, 2010 ... SEIU thugs in SEIU shirts break nose and leg in 5 places of Jindal GOP fundraiser supporters.

ALSO

On Friday April 9, 2010, an GOP official and her boyfriend attended a Republican dinner at Brennan’s restaurant in New Orleans. When they left this event the young Republicans were followed from the restaurant by a group of five white men who hurled insults at them calling the woman a “little blond bitch” and calling her companion a “f**king f*ggot.” They savagely beat and stomped on the young Republican couple just blocks from the restaurant.

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I have known ardee to, well, be less than honest on numerous occasions.  I believe this is one of those times as well.  I believe, this less than honest, individual found EXACTLY what I was referring to but chose a lie (feigned ignorance) instead.

You be the judge.

Manchild,

I couldn’t get through your entire last post.  Just too much blinding emotion and vitriol.

OK, so you don’t understand how to research archival news services or how to follow up with municipal court systems criminal records.  I will assist.

1. Try “New Orleans+GOP fundraiser+NOPD blotter”.  Or some variation of that. 

2. Researching “Kenneth Gladney”. 

3. After you locate those news articles note the details (names, dates, victims, arrests) you can then do an on-line search of records in each respective municipal court for more details outside of the mainstream media.

That should be enough to get you started on a path to opening your eyes.

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Good luck with tamping down your blinding hatred.

Ardee—perhaps you should try humor.  The further people depart from obvious truth and reason, the easier it is to make fun of them.

To those who think my previous post an over-the-top diatribe abandoning common courtesy:

You are correct, it was such. But the emotional response was engendered by the abandonment of truth and decency by the poster to whom that venom was aimed.

What, I wonder, does it take to attempt to defraud a forum in defense of ones own unique political view? If the truth is not enough then perhaps the loyalty is not deserved.

A somewhat maudlin attempt to paint the Tea Party as a beleaguered majority attacked by a minority on the left, and to do so by posting lies and distortions, deserves a vigorous scolding and it must be held up to public view in order to prevent any further efforts to make our political system subject to the power of money and the victory of deception. I say ,this far and no further.

Go Right Young Man, September 9 at 8:29 pm

You are ,at best, a figure of ridicule and a clownish political commentator. When I searched for any reference to the violence you claimed was committed against some tea party stooge ( and that is really what this movement is, a bunch of manipulated ignorami who do not know the issues and do not care to know them) I found not a single reference thereof. I did find the reference to that Montana jackass too loudmouthed and stupid even for that ridiculous group.

You dare have the gall to ask me for references when you yourself refuse to supply any..what a clown you are. Google violence and tea party as did I, and see no link to your obvious lies and my reference to that jerk as well. But you will not, probably because you yourself know your position to be pure unadulterated bullshit.

Do all of the radicals and Progressives who love the “Anointed One” want to know “how"most experts regarding elections statistically can predict an election? By the networks ratings, that’s how. Let’s take a peek at Barry Hussein’s future?

Fox News had their best year of all time in 2009. Now that we have finished the first quarter of 2010, it’s clear FNC is showing no signs of letting up – they just finished their best quarter ever, in total day total viewers.
It was also the second highest rated quarter ever in prime time total viewers.
While Fox News continues to see record ratings, their cable news competitors are dropping off even more year-to-year. In the A25-54 demographic during prime time, FNC was up 16%, while the MSM (Lame Stream Media) is: CNN dropped 42%, MSNBC was down 22% and HLN was down 40%. In total viewers prime time, FNC was up 3% while the rest declined as well (CNN – 39%, MSNBC – 15%, HLN – 24%).
We’re now one month away from Fox News becoming the #1 cable news channel for the 100th consecutive month based on total viewers, and this quarter FNC expanded its reach into the cable market as a whole – finishing 2nd in prime time on all of cable, behind just USA Network. It also had the top 13 programs on cable news in both total viewers and the demo.
As for the programs, their two main news shows saw their best quarters ever. Special Report with Bret Baier and FOX Report with Shepard Smith at 6 and 7pmET respectively. Of course, the entire line-up was up – in demo, Glenn Beck was up the most (50%).
While CNN continues to decline in prime time (as detailed today in the New York Times) and MSNBC’s signature programs fall off as well (post coming), Fox News remains unaffected. In fact, with health care passing, there’s no reason to doubt the second quarter of 2010 will be any different. With midterm elections just around the corner, Fox News could conceivably be headed for another year of stronger ratings than the one before.

Bye bye Barry

Obama’s New Economic Plan
Scandal: Less than 7% of Trillion-Dollar ‘Stimulus’ Spent on Infrastructure 09/08/2010
President Obama is asking for even more tax dollars this week for his failed stimulus policies yet his first trillion-dollar stimulus already promised massive spending on infrastructure that would put people back to work.
Didn’t happen. The massive spending on infrastructure or the putting people back to work.
Now Obama says putting the taxpayer on the hook for borrowing billions more and then spending those billions on infrastructure is the ticket to pulling the economy out of its Obamanomics nosedive.

“This will not only create jobs immediately, it’s also going to make our economy hum over the long haul,” Obama said of his new borrowing and spending plan in his Labor Day speech to a Big Labor union audience.
Yet a senior White House official told reporters on a conference call the very same day, “We’re not like trying to put out an idea today that in October 2010, this is going to create a lot of jobs. This is not what this is.”
So which is it? Will borrowing and spending billions more on the president’s Big Labor union leadership buddies “create jobs immediately,” as Obama said? Or is that “not what this is”?
And will anyone in the Obama administration ever tell us what it really is without the doublespeak?
Judging by history, it’s not likely.
The first stimulus bill was sold as spending on “shovel ready” projects to provide the jobs that would put millions of people back to work.
According to Recovery.gov, the President’s own website which accounts for the stimulus funding (ahem), of the first $787 billion stimulus bill, a full $275 billion has gone un-spent as of August 27, 2010. And of the $512 billion of stimulus already spent, only $18.5 billion (less than seven percent) has been paid out by the Department of Transportation on these “shovel ready” jobs.
Let me repeat that: less than seven percent has gone for the promised transportation infrastructure.
(h/t to Rep. Darrell Issa’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Staff)
Yet let’s take a look at what Democrats said about the massive $787 billion in so-called stimulus funding. Wasn’t that first trillion dollars supposed to be about bridges and roads and infrastructure?
(Continued)

Obama New Economic Plan (Continued)

President-Elect Obama—November 28, 2008 Press Conference: “We are going to have to make sure that we are investing in roads, bridges, other infrastructure investments that lay the groundwork for long-term economic growth. A lot of that goes through our states and our local governments. And one of the things that we’re going to also want to make sure of is that as part of our economic plan, that we are fast-tracking some of these projects.”
Speaker Nancy Pelosi—January 7, 2009 Forum on Economic Recovery: “While there are many components to this economic recovery and jobs package. Make no mistake: this is not your grandfather’s public works bill.
Associated Press—January 11, 2009: “Spend a lot or spend nothing at all, it didn’t matter, the AP analysis showed: Local unemployment rates rose and fell regardless of how much stimulus money Washington poured out for transportation, raising questions about Obama’s argument that more road money would address an “urgent need to accelerate job growth.”
President-Elect Obama—January 16, 2009 in Ohio: “We’ll put nearly 400,000 people to work by repairing our infrastructure – our crumbling roads, bridges and schools. And we’ll build the new infrastructure we need to succeed in this new century, investing in science and technology, and laying down miles of new broadband lines so that businesses across our nation can compete with their counterparts around the world.
Vice President Biden—February 17, 2009, Signing of Stimulus: “Starting today, our administration will be working day and night to provide more aid for the unemployed, create immediate jobs building our roads and our bridges, make long-term investments in a smarter energy grid, and so much more.”
President Obama—February 17, 2009, Signing of Stimulus: “Because of this investment, nearly 400,000 men and women will go to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, repairing our faulty dams and levees, bringing critical broadband connections to businesses and homes in nearly every community in America, upgrading mass transit, building high-speed rail lines that will improve travel and commerce throughout our nation.”
Of the over half-trillion dollars Democrats have already spent, only $18.5 billion has been paid out by the Department of Transportation for infrastructure. (How much of that was spent on the propaganda road signs?)
There remains $275 billion of the first “stimulus” money allotment unspent. The President has yet to explain why we need to borrow billions more to spend on infrastructure.

campaignman

So do you own this site? If not, too bad “Anointed One honor member”. By the way, I know that your love for Barry Hussein runs deep by your dim and ignorant questions, but I mean ignorant because you copied a large number of my comments? Campaignboy
I would suggest high-learning classes

Roy,

You are some piece of work.

Your criticisms of President Barack Obama are not respected by anyone reading them given your obvious hate for him and unwillingness to judge him fairly and objectively.

The hate that emanates from your posts suggest you have deep-seated prejudices against people who are unlike you.

I recommend that you seek some professional help.  Not that you’d take my advice, I’m a liberal Obama supporter.

Good luck.

P.S.  Do you have nothing better to do than continue to post your “insights” on this site?

mdgr, September 11 at 4:16 am:

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More than anything else, Americans despise weakness. That’s pretty much what Obama and the Dems represent in the public mind these days, no?
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I don’t think so.  The Democratic Party’s shtick is ‘We may not do much, but we’re the ones who aren’t crazy.’  That definition paid off in 2006 and 2010, and it may well pay off this year as well.

>Yes, Republicans had better start defining themselves. If they don’t, Obama, who labeled them the party of “stagnant growth, eroding competitiveness and a shrinking middle class,” is now happy to do it for them. And that’s what changed in Milwaukee and Cleveland.

This has got to be a joke, right? The Republicans define Ben Nelson. They define the Democratic Party. They define Obama. Why would they need to define themselves?

More than anything else, Americans despise weakness. That’s pretty much what Obama and the Dems represent in the public mind these days, no?

The new found “pair” that has recently been attributed to Obama is as ephemeral as the hope he offered us two years ago. Does he really think the electorate is that stupid? 

Chris Hedges was right, as usual. As a brand, Obama and his DNC masters are nothing less than contemptible.

The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree, and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
- Leno

America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
– Leno

Q: Have you heard about McDonald’s’ new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
– O’Brien

Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
– Leno

Q: What’s the difference between Obama’s cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
– Letterman

Q: What’s the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
– Kimmel

Q: What was the most positive result of the “Cash for clunkers” program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
- Letterman

Two recent polls have discovered that as many as one-quarter of all Americans believe that President Obama is actually a Muslim. This is despite the fact that during his campaign he put enormous effort into convincing the voters that he was a Christian.

I remember thinking at the time, “Why is no one on the Left howling about Senator Obama’s claims of faith in God and His Son Jesus Christ?” When George W. Bush, early in his campaign, told reporters that the person who had most profoundly affected his life was Jesus Christ, it almost derailed his campaign! Even during his presidency, I don’t remember White House spokespersons having to reassure reporters that President Bush was really a Christian. The press took his faith at face value and constantly threw it back at him.

And remember how the Left ridiculed him for appointing John Ashcroft, a devout and open evangelical Christian, as his Attorney-General? When it was discovered that Mr. Ashcroft held personal Bible studies in his DOJ office, the Left and the press demanded his resignation. Yet, when Mr. Obama’s deputy press secretary insisted to reporters aboard Air Force One last week that, indeed, the President is “obviously a Christian [because] he prays every day,” every member of the Mainstream Media was as quiet as a church mouse!

As Mister Rogers might have put it, “Can you say ‘double standard’?” But, then, that’s the modus operandi for practitioners of political correctness, social Marxism, and thought-control.

But trust our old friend, Reality, to break up the party. Because of all the controversy over the Ground Zero Mosque (Formerly called “Cordoba House,” then “Park 51 Mosque”, and now we learn it’s not really a mosque, but a community center with a small prayer space!), ‘Happy Ramadan’ dinners at the White House, and the growing suspicion that our President may be a ‘closet’ Muslim, we’ve recently heard a lot of folks give Islam some wonderful reviews. Unfortunately, the truth about Islam doesn’t quite measure up to the good press that Islam has been getting lately.

Also, if you’re a fan of that time-honored literary tradition known as “irony,” you’ll be in high clover this week. A group of ‘interfaith’ leaders gave a press conference in Washington recently in support of The Cordoba Initiative. You will never believe the examples and parallels they cited in their efforts to shame us into going along with the idea. Either these guys are ignorant of Islamic history, they’re blatantly duplicitous (which is my bet), or they’re just plain stupid. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to have to claim any of these options to describe myself, but they’re spoiled for choice.

Obama: Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Thank You

That is right - I will say it, “THANK GOD FOR THE PRESIDENT.”
1. He destroyed the Clinton Political Machine - Driving a stake thru the heart of Hillary’s Presidential aspirations something that no Republican was ever able to do. Remember when a Hillary Presidency scared the daylights out of you!
2. He killed off the Kennedy Dynasty - No more Kennedys trolling Washington looking for booze and women wanting rides home. American women and Freedom are safer tonight!
3. He is destroying the Democratic Party before our eyes! Dennis Moore had never lost a race - quit Evan Bayh had never lost a race - quit Byron Dorgan had never lost a race - quit Harry Reid - soon to be GONE These are just a handful of the Democrats whose political careers Obama has destroyed! By the end of 2010, dozens more will be gone. In December of 2008, the Democrats were on the rise. In the last two election cycles, they had picked up 14 senate seats and 52 house seats. The press was touting the death of the Conservative Movement and the Republican Party. In just one year, Obama put a stop to all of this and will probably give the House, if not the Senate, back to the Republicans.
4. He has completely exposed liberals and progressives for what they are. Every Generation seems to need to re-learn the lesson on why they should never actually put liberals in charge. He is bringing home the lesson very well. Liberals tax, borrow and spend - check. Liberals won’t bring themselves to protect America - check. Liberals want to take over the economy - check. Liberals think they know what is best for everyone - check. Liberals aren’t happy till they are running YOUR life - check.
5. He has brought more Americans back to conservatism than anyone since Reagan. In one year, he has rejuvenated the Conservative movement and brought out to the streets millions of Freedom Loving Americans. Name me one other time in your life that you saw your friends and neighbors this interested in taking backAmerica!
6. His amazing leadership has sparked the greatest period of sales of firearms and ammunition this country has seen. Law abiding citizens have rallied and have provided a “stimulus” to the sporting goods field while other industries have failed, faded or moved off-shore.
7. In all honesty, one year ago I was more afraid than I have been in my life. Not of the economy, but of the direction our country was going. I thought Americans had forgotten what this country was all about. My neighbors, friends and strangers proved to me that my lack of confidence of the Greatness and Wisdom of the American people was flat wrong.
8. When the American People wake up, no smooth talking teleprompter reader can fool them! Barack Obama woke up these Great Americans! Again,
I want to say, “Thank You Barry Barack Hussein Obama!” This is exactly the kind of hope and change we desperately needed!

GRYM—I can’t remember the CBS article now.  It was just a news story.  Do you ever read the comments sections attached to these things?  Not that I’m recommending it.  If I come across some juicy ones I’ll let you know, but by and large they’re all rather depressing.

Sorry, E.J.:  there’s no ‘New Obama’ and no ‘Old Obama’ - rather, there’s just ‘Campaigning Obama’ and ‘Governing Obama’.

What we’re seeing now is the re-emergence of ‘Campaigning Obama’, and indeed he is good at it.  Perhaps he’ll even succeed during the next 2 months in making some people forget what a dismal excuse for governing he and his strong Congressional majorities have been over the preceding 20.

If he does, expect ‘Governing Obama’ (and his Congressional cohorts in crime) to be right back after early November.  Fool me once…

Did someone actually put the words repulican and idea
in the same sentence? That would be like putting
democrat and resolve in the same sentence.

Anarcissie, - “As far as giving sources goes, it pretty much is your job if you’re making a positive argument of some kind.”

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Sincerely it’s not my job.  No offense to you personally.  I simply will no longer put in the time.  Nor do I feel the least bit compelled.  I will assist when asked.

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I would like to check on one of your claims. 

If you please; what was the headline or storyline at CBS-com wherein every other comment was threatening violence against Cordoba House supporters?  People threatening to kill Muslims the world over?  I’ll put in the 3 minutes to see that for myself, yes. 

I believe it’s very possible that you have repeated a stereotypical perception held by many which is, oddly enough, never actually verified by sound methods.  Frankly it sounds like an Eugene Robinson article.

GRYM—I think the MSM site was CBS.  My experience with the forums attached to mainstream media is that most of them are like that, although not always specifically against Muslims, of course.  Depends what’s in the news.  Do you really want to track this stuff down?  It seems worthless to me.  Some cretin sitting in an attic with nothing else to do can produce hundreds of such messages every day.

Biting is another matter.

As far as giving sources goes, it pretty much is your job if you’re making a positive argument of some kind.

Anarcissie,- “You need to post some links or cites, because the events you describe are not making it to the surface of the news.  You can’t expect us to denounce things we don’t know about…..”

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Precisely my point, yes?  You have not heard a word of any of this through your trusted sources for “News”.  There has not been a single mention of these things on this Web space.  Yet we hear almost weekly about the mean words and possible spitting that so frighten the whole of North America and beyond.

I’m sorry but I no longer supply links.  I no longer do the work for others on these types of forums.  Never hesitate to ask for more information.  I’ll assist.

Try “New Orleans+GOP fundraiser+NOPD blotter”.  Or some variation of that.  You can also try the county municipal Clerk of Courts office.

Anarcissie, - “I was just now reading a comments forum on an MSM site and every other message was a death threat, mostly against the Park 51 non-Ground Zero non-mosque and the people connected with it, although one writer wanted to kill all the Muslims in America or maybe the world.”

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I’m sorry, however, I need to be blunt here.  I don’t believe you.  I need you to direct me to that MSM site so that I may judge this myself.  I’ll need to know the story line or headline you’re referencing also.

It sounds to me like the gross hyperbole we have all seen in the way of wild claims that always seem to go unverified.

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Mean words in the comments section of a web space is what concerns you?  Not the young woman who literally had her skull crushed by a group of people who cared not for her side of politics?  Really?

GRYM—You need to post some links or cites, because the events you describe are not making it to the surface of the news.  You can’t expect us to denounce things we don’t know about, except rather generically, which will probably be unsatisfactory.

ardee,

What was that?  A Tea Party “leader” removed from his or her position for advocating violence?  You mean the Tea Party dissociated itself from such unacceptable social norms?  That sounds horrific.  Might you have more information on that?

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So here we witness first hand how ardee clearly, perhaps somewhat proudly, admitting his ignorance of the incident of the GOP fundraiser and her male companion brutally beaten as they were leaving a GOP event.  He seems genuinely clueless to her crushed skull and his two broken legs.

Ardee hasn’t heard a word of, or witnessed a single sentence to, the Tea Party attendee who had the end of his finger bitten off by anti-Tea protesters.  Or the black vendor to a Tea Party rally whom was viciously beaten with a baseball bat and called a Nigger.  Nothing about the 7 year old girl knocked off of her 6’ ft. Father’s shoulders by thugs who disagreed with the town hall meeting they had attended.

To quote ardee….“HHmmmm”. 

Would anyone here like to claim that ardee is the example of a well-informed, well-intentioned, intellectual Progressive?

GRYM—I don’t even keep up with death threats against myself, much less Tony Blair’s.  These days, death threats are a dime a dozen.  I was just now reading a comments forum on an MSM site and every other message was a death threat, mostly against the Park 51 non-Ground Zero non-mosque and the people connected with it, although one writer wanted to kill all the Muslims in America or maybe the world.  I think they’re silly, as are thrown eggs and other groceries.  However, if we believe in the standards given in the charter of the Nuremberg Trials, then Tony Blair should be arrested and tried and, if found guilty, punished appropriately.  As should Bush, Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and so forth.  When these folks made death threats, it meant something. 

Maybe some of them could get off by pleading ignorance or incompetence.

For the charter of the Nuremberg Trials, see
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art6 ; it is Article 6 which is the most relevant.

There are now dozens of examples of violence, some of it quite horrendous - baseball bats, crushed skulls and broken legs - against Tea Party supporters and republicans in the past 18 months.

I have Googled and Binged and found no such information. Though I did find that a Montana Tea Party head has been removed for advocating violence…..Hmmmmm

Anarcissie, — “I’m not justifying violence, except in the form of a formally correct war crimes trial.”

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However you have not condemned the violent acts (Shoes and Eggs - hundreds of death threats w/numerous attempts) against Tony Blair.  Not only have you not condemned such violence you have effectively dismissed or minimized such acts against him.

Tony Blair, apparently, does not agree with you.  He agreed with Bill Clinton, George Bush, The Crown Prince, Mubarak etc… Blair is not on the “correct” side.

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There are now dozens of examples of violence, some of it quite horrendous - baseball bats, crushed skulls and broken legs - against Tea Party supporters and republicans in the past 18 months.  And, still, not a single verifiable example of like behavior from independents, moderates or conservatives.  Mean words and possible spitting are their crimes.

There has not been a single article or discussion on TruthDig regarding the hatred and violence rooted in “modern progressivism”.  Why do you imagine that is?

So… supposedly the prez has grown a pair of testicles two months before the election, huh? Interesting!

I personally think that those are artificial testicles that hang in the W.H. for every prez to use near election time in order to fire up the kook base then remove them once the results are in and before he reassumes the position before his corporate masters.

That the prez of the U.S. has nothing better to do than condemn the planned actions of 50 Crister nuts indicates much about why this nation finds itself in such economic dire straights. Shouldn’t Obama and his crack team of economics xspurts be out there considering what economic policies might be negatively affecting the job market rather than worrying about Muslim sensitivities?

I find it very offensive that all that hope and change has turned out to be nothing more than a continuation of Bush policy. Then again, perhaps it isn’t Bush policy but status quo policy, huh?

Democrats and republicans are nothing more than conjoined twins. They’re mirror images of each other.

GRYM—I’m not justifying violence, except in the form of a formally correct war crimes trial—something I’m sure Saddam Hussein deserved as well.  But Saddam got his trial, if not a formally correct one, whereas Tony Blair is running around the world getting his ass kissed.  I think it’s odd to take great exception to a few eggs when Blair had a hand in throwing five-hundred-pound bombs at totally innocent people, and a lot of them, too.  Where are your priorities?  We’re talking about an accomplice to mass murder here.

As for the Tea Partiers, as far as I know they have done nothing but talk foolishly.  I think they should be left alone.

Anarcissie, - “Tony Blair deserves a lot worse than a few eggs.”

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That is precisely the answer I repeatedly get from every progressive I have asked.  Violence is justified as long as it’s deployed from the “correct” side.

The mass murdering Saddam Hussein is the hapless victim while Tony Blair deserves any attack hurled his way.

The same goes for Tea Party protesters.  They deserve the violence repeatedly thrust at them also.  They’re on the wrong side.

Tony Blair deserves a lot worse than a few eggs.  He deserves a formally correct war crimes trial.

Damn those violent and abusive Tea Party members posing as peace-loving, kind, compassionate and tolerant, anti-war/anti-violence, intellectual liberals.

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Tony Blair pelted with eggs and shoes at book signing

Former prime minister attacked by anti-war protesters in Dublin as he promotes memoirs

Repeating from another post on the same topic.

Blaming “those evil republicans” on the economy is useless.

No economist worth his or her salt will suggest that one president or political party in control of congress is at fault in an recession.  Only in the insipid media and blog world is such nonsense bantered about.  Very few Americans are that stupid or politically bigoted.

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The party in power usually goes the way of the economy in midterm elections.  It’s been that way since before the United States was conceived.  Bellyaching and devising all manner of rationalizations to explain it otherwise is a waste of an individual’s time.

Of course, me falling more near the “right-of-center” of politics, I can see that not a single major issue of legislation passed over the previous 18 months has enjoyed the support of the majority.  Not even one.

One can safely say that those within the “Party of No” are looking pretty good this elections cycle.

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My lament is in how there are so few in Washington representing the strongest - and most stable thinking - majority of people.  The center.  Or centered, if you will.

The two party’s today, when we do witness real differences, seem heavily controlled by extreme ideologues. - Think Truthdig and Red State.  Hannity and Olbermann. - THIS is not where Americans live their daily lives.

Almost 80% of Americans are smart, centered, logical common-sense people.  It’s no accident that those same people frown on the whole of congress.  Equally.  Those who tend to post comments on Red State and Truthdig seem not to understand this.

The Republican Party is probably beyond being taught a lesson.  But who will teach the Democratic Party a lesson?  That’s the tough question.  Maybe the cool winds from the abyss they’re looking over will awaken them a little.

Hope is all we have now. But the question is, when does hope stop being hope, and turn into a delusion?

A dream, that keeps the pain away for a little while longer. Until, someone else comes up with something else to hope for.

If Mr. Obama, really wants to influence the election, then he should get rid of every single Goldman Sachs employee in his administration.

Next up would be the re introduction of the Glass-Steagal Act into the house, to become law once again.

Then there’s Elizabeth Warren, as the head of the new consumer protection agency.

Until then, all we have is hope, and hopes not enough to live on anymore.

Finally, finally, finally the president has grown a pair! Finally!

For a first effort at going a round or two, pretty good!

Keep on swinging Mr. President, the more punches you land, the more fired up you will make your supporters.

All I can say is it’s about time, maybe we’ll have a remake of Dewey/Truman again, with a similar result!

50gigs:

The so-called “progressives” here at T-D will bemoan and wail about such a result as you call for.  They don’t WANT the GOP stopped—they want them to create all their excesses to hasten “the Revolution” so we can all live in Chavez’s Venezuela-in-North-America.

“there is another possibility: that we are now at the Republican peak, and that Democrats are in a position to claw back enough support to hang on to both houses of Congress.”

Brilliant. Sincerely. Yes, this now is the most Republicans can do.

There is another possibility, remote though pundits may make it: that an electorate, angered by incessant Republican irresponsibility—from the war, to the crash, to sex scandals, to Quran burning that will wind up killing Americans—that this electorate will rise up and JUST SAY NO TO REPUBLICANS.

Dream, folks, because it CAN happen.

Dream an American morning in November when everyone wakes up to discover Republicans with FEWER seats. Losing their filibuster-stopping sliver of representatives. Losing against all “wisdom”. Losing to such a degree that their views… the Maulkins, the Palins, the Becks… overnight become…

... Irrelevant.

It’s time to punish the Republican Party by saying No to it. Time to teach the Republican Party a lesson. Vote Democratic.

The economy, which astute folks will understand was ruined by Bush, is the single most important issue in the coming election obviously. That Obama has continued most of the Bush policies that ruined our economy is moot.

What I find so interesting is that the Obama narrative in his campaign speeches echo Republican ideas and ideals in the main, yet now the GOP is united against that which they suggested in the first place. Welcome to Wonderland.