OIF - Oil & Israel Forever

The ultimate gallows humor of the neocons

Google Ron Paul.  He is the only one telling the truth. The six corporations that control our media are doing everything to stop him.

He won the Republican debate and Fox News manipulated the outcome.

ONLY TRUE AMERICANS LIKE RON PAUL CAN STOP THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY RUN OUR COUNTRY.

Americans are going stead fastly creating an Empire like Brits,Germans,Dutch,French,Italians,Romans to name a few but have not learned that ALL Empire crumble within few years.
American Empire will go the same way too.
Americans do not understand DEMOCRACY and will never work in the ARAB world.
Muslims are uneducated people and thus have many wives (Polygamy) andtreat women like unhuman.
Women have NO rights in ISLAM and ALL Muslims are fanatics.

Until Americans realize that Israel totally controls our country, then all of the protests, rallys and other operations such as non-binding resolutions will not have any effect on what is going on.

Just google any trouble spot in the world and add the name “Israel” and you will see just how much horror the Likud Party causes all over the world.

They think they are helping Israel but they are actually hurting Israel and worse, hurting America.

But Americans are too uneducated and uninformed to know how bad we are being had.

To Vanjejo:
You are absolutely correct. Our current administration in colusion with the Israelis have many schemes to cheat the Muslims out of their oil.

One of their first schemes was to conquer Afganistan and build a pipe line from the Caspian Basin thru Afganistan to a port in Southern Pakistan. I feel sure that you are aware of how well that scheme is working out.

Pipelines, by their very nature, are very difficult to secure. Without the cooperation of the local population and some rule of law pipelines are impossible to secure. It did not take long for Bushco to figure out that they would have to pay off so many local war lords in the various countries and tribal regions that a pipeline passed through that it would not be profitable venture.

The governments of Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Syria, Iran, Kuwait, the UAE, and all other oil producers in the mid east are well aware of the schemes of the US and Isreal. These counties will continue to stymie any efforts to steal their oil. The chess game will continue untill we and/or Israel are bankrupt or decide to negotiate and pay a fair price for mid east oil.

Joe Liberman is the closet thing to having a menber of Knesset or Israeli Parlarment serving in the U S Senate. Only the interests to Jews and the Israeli government is lobbied upon and voted on by Joe Liberman. He is better than a spy because he can actually effect policy for another countires interest that is not in the interest of the country he is suppose to represent. America needs to call Joe Liberman as to where his loyalty and patroitism really lie.

Let us waste more time gnashing our teeth about 911, that will do a lot toward cleaning up the current fiasco in Iraq. 911 is JFK all over again, it will be investigated ad infinum but no one will ever be convicted or do any time for the crime. 911 was a black swan and the perps covered their tracks fairly well. What they failed to cover up our intelligence agencies will cover by continuing to release bits and pieces of disinformation over many years. Its SOP.
Yesterday, April 12 2007, three very important events occured in Iraq.                            The suicide bombing inside the green zone and inside the cafeteria where the Iraqi elected officials eat.
A big firefight in Basra between the Brits and an insurgent malitia force (give it a name).
The bombing and destruction of one of the main bridges in Baghdad crossing the Tigris river.
Can anyone out there connect these dots?
Now that our forces in Iraq are tired and ticked off about extended tours and multiple tours and our equipment is worn out or destroyed the insurgents are going to begin the real push to get us out of their country. They will cause the puppet government of Iraq to collapse. They will cut our ground supply lines into Baghdad and into Iraq near Basra by any means at their disposal. When they blow bridges and cut roads they force us to rely on more helicopters that are relatively easy targets when they pull out their best air to ground weapons. Al Sadr’s decision to turn the Shia loose on us was what the rally in Najaf was all about. The insurgents have plans, goals and objectives, these are all things that we lack unless you consider the ‘surge’ a plan. Now we can sit back and watch - or if you happen to be in Iraq I would reccomend that you hide and watch.

still so relevant about the real intentions of the briitsh in instigating usa to attack iraq.

  year—1997
Irak is right in demanding ouster of anglo-saxon spies from hollowed Iraki’s soil.In name of uno, and before that leage of friends ,and now Amnesty International, this heyena country called england has installed a lot bof speis all over World and has virtually hijacked Americans to do their domestic and foreign policies for furtherance of british (england’s ) interest than even American ‘s interest.
 

  These days for last few years a lot of Kurdish refugees(who by the way are more aryans than all the europeans combined-though it is irrelevant here)are escaping from Turkey because of Turkish pressure. But nobody has ever stopped Turkey from having her air space nor has anyone bobed them. and why should anyone?Who has given right to a handfull of countries to be a policeman? Could they dare demand such thing at time of so called cold war? Every december,ever since gulf war there is a show of bullying tactics by anglo-saxons in middle east. There is really no ground but excuse is created because this race feels uplifted when others are insultated. Also there is a low cost exercise in bullying any other nation by military postures. Why should Iraq not have weapons as he desires?in 1981, when the israelis had bombed the iraqui nuclear reacto(a few days before going critical) it was britain)govt, and british media) who had vwhemently opposed Israeli daring action and did a lot of anti-jewish propaganda. Atleast Begin had a reason to fear from the arab enemy of israel. even in ‘82 Lebanon war it was britain which was most vociferous in criticizing Isreali militay action at the same time minimizing the Isreali Airforce’s achievement in destroying Bacca’s valley missiles through high tech method.In fact What americans did in gulf war was what Isreali had achieved way back in ‘82 in Lebanon war and America obtained that military know-how from Israelis after Lebanon war. But gulf war is justifiable on basis of military superirity but not Lebanon war. In fact when an american general said that america learned a lot from Israelis’ achievement then the american defense minister Winnberg said that itAmerica learned not from Israeli but from British. Ofcourse we all know that Wnnberg was (awarded sir) more of anbritish defense minister than american one. He was pro-british and anti-jewish (and antirussian and all others aswell). In fact in lebanon war the american foreign secratary was changed because the british did not like Hague’s attitude. This much britain exercises influence in american affairs. Now having installed all the stooges in Arab world britain has discarded her sham veil of Arabists and openly insults(through america ofcouse because on own britain is not even a fourh grade power)the arab world.Talking about the stooge, have you wondered why these days even Yeltsin’s bad health no longer makes any headline news in anglosaxon world?Before any cold that Yeltsin had was niticed and still before that any peon from Russia had a headline news ’ material. The reaon is simple. Britain has installed in Russia not only a mad man likes yelstin but also a second line of stooge successor to him. After Yelstin usefullness is over then he will be replaced by those second line of british stooge who at the moment are already controlling Russia and destroying her everyday. Democracy ,as understood today, basically means any system which gives free hand to britain to exploit other races. If their is one example of what an evil this so called capitalism is and what a saviour communism(britain does not dislike communism, she dislikes other’s prosperity and independence whether it comes from communism, nationalism or what ever)is: this ruinous example of Russia is the real lesson. China is right to hold on to her nationalistic pursuit. It really is a war between anglo-saxons and the rest of the world. It is a race war.

The UNITED States is far from being united and will continue to be divided as long as the war drags on. But there is not a major division between those who support poverty reduction and those who don’t in our country. Most people want global poverty eliminated… and I would like to see America unite- in the fight against poverty. The Millennium Development Goals were established seven years ago, which united 191 world leaders in NYC- the largest gathering of leaders ever assembled- agreeing to a time frame for ending the world’s top global concerns to cut global poverty in half by 2015 and eliminate it completely by 2025. It is time to bring attention to these goals and to unite in this way rather than continue being a divided nation.

Invasions and attempted occupations of Afganistan and British-formulated Iraq ,over many generations have proved to result in abject failure.Apparently NO ONE even associated with this administration had an understanding of historical ramifications of disrupting the tribal and sectarian nature of these peoples.Over many generations ,distrust and overt hatred toward westerners(British,Americans) and The former Soviet Union,is not going to magically vanish because of some temporary well meaning.They know we will leave and leave them to there own means again

Why didn’t libs tells us out loud what they obviously believe: that this was a bad idea because these primitive, tribal barbarians will never be capable of managing a modern, civilized society and Saddam was exactly what these subhuman savages deserved and all they were capable of.

Why would we have expected it to turn out any differently that Clinton’s foray into Yugoslavia (I thought we weren’t supposed to get involved in civil wars)?

Sen. Joe Lieberman,
I-Conn….return him to Israel forever.  He isn’t wanted in CT either.  More and more citizens want him out of office and out of CT.
Inductive ~ Deductive LOGIC

Let’s get this straight. Is Lieberman a lap-dog or a neo-conservative puppet master? Can’t have it both ways.

The article should read, “Democrats Finally Unite—Against U.S.”

That’s just Joe Lie-berman looking in the fun house mirror again and coming up with isn’t it great that they can tell us how much they hate us. He actually spouted a Bu$hism and didn’t even know it. Connecticut
you’re officially off my Christmas card list, anyone that could vote this fraud back into office probably can’t even read.

Why is Iraqi outrage against our troops a surprise? 

I’m not an expert on the Middle East, but I do have good common sense.  And it didn’t compute in my brain four years ago that the way to win hearts and minds in Iraq was by breaking into Baghdad homes, terrifying women and children with M16s, shouting orders in pidgin Arabic, hauling away traditional weapons like the AK-47 along with blindfolded relatives suspected of being Baath Party loyalists, whom we financed in the war against Iran.

How angry would you get if Iraqi soldiers in a white pickup truck stopped in front of your house tonight, broke down your door, aimed AK-47s at your family, confiscated your shotgun, and demanded to know in broken English if you were a Republican? 

Would not such treatment make you want to retaliate with pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails?  God, I hope so.  If not, the American Revolution was fought in vain.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet and editor of http://www.King-George.biz—the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

Why does anyone except Bush Kool-Aid sippers pay attention to Love-Me Lieberman?

This is the same guy who, in 2002, chaired the White House Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) that was established that year by Bruce Jackson, a director of the neocon paperwork organization, Project for a New American Century (PNAC).

A rightwing hawk in liberal clothing, Joe rubbed elbows at CLI meetings with PNAC members Jeane Kirkpatrick, Robert Kagan, Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle, William Kristol and James Woolsey.

Lieberman has less credibility about Iraq than Don Imus does when addressing civility in radio broadcasting. 

Hugh E. Scott, editor of http://www.King-George.biz—the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

The Pangloss Score, by Stan D. Garde:

Top twenty reasons the US should further invade and occupy the entire “Middle East” (western Asia) –

The inhabitants of the lands are tired of their massive oil burden and would like to have it taken off their hands.

The Air Force needs fuel to drop its bombs to get its fuel.

Americans are thirsty for the crude.

King George — aka, President Powerdrunk — decrees it.

The US troops love spending the best years of their lives getting blown up, blowing up.

No one in their Right mind can imagine Baghdad without a US flag planted smack in the middle of it.

Or Tehran, etc.

In the immortal words of New York Times columnist, Thomas Friedman in his 1999 book The Lexus and the Olive Tree: “McDonald’s cannot flourish [in the Middle East or anywhere else presumably] without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the U.S. Air Force F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies to flourish is called the U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.”

In the immortal words of Clinton’s Albright on another occasion: “What’s the point of having a superb military…if we can’t use it?”

In the immortal words of former President George H. W. Bush: “What we say goes.”

As Dr. Pangloss says, “If you truly want the best of all possible worlds, you have to bomb for it.”

[etc…]

http://apragmaticpolicy.wordpress.com/2007/04/06/tropetopia-xiii-the-pangloss-score-ii-the-us-conquest-of-the-middle-east/

The image of ambassador John Dean with U.S. flag on his head escaping from Cambodia over 30 years ago re-appeared in my mind. Sorry, very sorry !

Only someone with an I.Q. below “43” could not have seen this coming. The Shiite and Sunni factions have been at each others throats for the past 1,400 years. Only the “decider-in-chief” could have brought these bitter enemies together in a massive display of outrage against a common enemy.

So, now the liberated Iraqis have the “freedom” to paint targets on the backs of what they perceive to be brutal and sadistic occupation troops.

God Bless America

It is really no wonder that Iraq’s in the tens of thousands areprotesting our presence in Iraq, labeling it an occupation. We’ve acted as there were only one solution to the terrorism problem, war. It has become increasingly clear, however, as we approach another year of war and wasted lives, that our efforts have not eliminated terrorists, ie the attack on Algiers. Our military presence and lack of attention to helping people out of poverty fuels the anti-American flames abroad and in Iraq. If we were to address terrorism at its roots, poverty; it would be possible to reduce the number of lives lost, save money, and live up to the reputation of world leader.

Robert Scher’s column points directly to the reason Bush went to war Against Iraq.  Americans have been so confused, so brainwashed, with all the lies that put us there; now we know the answer.  Lieberman’s interpretation of Iraq’s massive demonstration against our fourth year occupation of their country is so far out in left field thst it’s almost sad.  Indeed, his interest lies with Israel, as does Bush’s.  Nothing else makes sense.  This war; unjust, immoral and insane is not worth one drop of our troop’s blood.  As the Iraqi’s would have it, they should be withdrawn immediately.  Keeping them there and having them killed amounts to one thing, murder!  So, Bush got his prey, Hussein.  Perhaps he intended to steal the country’s oil reserves.  When all else failed, he claimed that keeping our presence there would democratize Iraq; impose his own ideologies upon a nation of people who have been Islamic extremists since time immemorable.  This is another crock of bull and he knows it.  The reason he insists on occupation of an innocent country is Israel, so clearly seen through by Lieberman’s statements.  If the leadership of our country is so concerned about the safety of Israel, it should offer tham refuge in our own country.  Holy land? All land is holy!  If they refuse, they we should cut tham loose.  America cannot police the world.  Israel has cost us untold misery and immeasurable resources.  It is time that they made a move from the hornet’s nest they insist is theirs or pay the consequences.

E.Stuart is right on the money.

Once again proof that George W. is a “uniter” and not a “divider”.  First he “united” the world against us, then he “united” Americans against himself and his regime and now he’s “united” the Iraqis.

Way to go George!  We’ll be sure to call you up if there’s some errant country out there who doesn’t hate us yet.  Until then George, could you take up knitting or something?  Oh yeah, be nice with those needles…

Actually we “broke” Iraq during the ill-conceived sanctions after the first Gulf War. The sanctions caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, while Saddam and Co. lived the high life. Saddam used the sanctions to consolidate power against the outside world. They were partly intended to cause his over-throw. The “regime change” strategy embraced by Bill Clinton, et al. was brought to full fruition by George W. Bush. The only catch is that when this is all sorted out the ultimate regime change may not be to the liking of the West.

Noticeably absent from US ‘main stream media’ reporting of the Najaf demonstration against the American presence in Iraq were the members of the Iraqi Army that joined the march. This fact was reported on Juan Cole’s highly regarded and much visited ‘Informed Comment’ website.          So Liberman thinks that its a good sign that even the Iraqi Army is taking part in a march to demand that America leave Iraq? He must be supping at the same cool aid trough that McCain frequents. Yep, we are standing up the Iraqi Army and Police so that we can stand down!
Al Sadr has remained steadfast in his call for Iraqi unity and realizes that a break up of Iraq can only weaken his country and possibly lead to another failed state in the Muslim world. Al Sadr has also continued to remain aloof from Iran and does not want undue Iranian influence in Iraq. Unlike Sistani, Al Sadr did not flee to Iran during the Iraq/Iran war and I dont believe that he is in Iran now. In other words, he is a real Iraqi nationalist. His stance has put him at risk of life not only from the US, which would like to see a break up of Iraq,  but other Shia insurgent groups such as SCIRI, and the Badr Corps, fighting, or waiting to fight, in Iraq. The only thing that Lieberman had correct is that Al Sadr is ‘striking a nationalist cord’ but Liebermans spin was childish blather. Perhaps we should give Lieberman a nick name. Can we just call him Lie and drop the berman?
What else did the MSM leave out of their coverage of the Najaf march? Well, they conviently did not mention that Al Sadr called for the Iraqi Army and the Iraqi Police to stop aiding the American Military in Iraq and for all Iraqis that are currently helping Americans in any way to stop their assistance.
I feel sure that I am not alone among Americans that would like to hear a clear presentation by our president of exactly what our goals in Iraq are and what exactly a victory would look like. Bush is now as tied to this war as LBJ was to Viet Nam. It is defining his presidency and like Johnson before him he is in a position where he cant win but he cant lose. Like Johnson before him he will not do the honorable thing and withdraw but he will continue to squander our troops and our treasury in a failed attempt to subjugate a people that will not be subjugated. Bush is a scoundrel that has wrapped himself in our flag and the christian religion in order to obscure his real goal. The oil of Iraq.

The deceptions and covert manipulations surrounding the invasion and occupation of Iraq are so complex that it is difficult to understand which of the horrors of the current situation were planned and which were the result of terrible mistakes.

Some might even feel that the chaos and bloodshed in Iraq is good, because it creates a reason for US forces to stay there ... which may have been the plan all along.

These kinds of questions are looked at in:

“‘Mistakes’ or ‘plans’ in Iraq, War on Terror?”

PopulistAmerica.com
February 12, 2007

http://www.populistamerica.com/mistakes_or_plans_in_iraq_war_on_terror

When I said that history will judge Bush a hero, even I didn’t anticipate that this tangled web would right itself in this way.  Too bad, Robert.  You’ve inadvertently given Bush his out:  “This is how we planned it.  Gawd Bless theeze United States uv Imurika!!”

Joe Liberman (I-Conn) is not Bush’s lap dog, he, as a faithful Jew tows Israel’s line and I suspect orders.  Israel wants Iraq destroyed as she was the greatest threat against the Jewish state before the war.  What Israel wants is always what Joe Lieberman wants and Conn. and the United States comes a distant second.  Now Iran is a threat to Israel and guess who is pushing Bust to attack.  If Liberman and Bush could have their way we would be at war with Iran today.

It’s hard not to feel a deep sense of foreboding about where the United States in going in Iraq. Is america really going to follow the other great empires and fool itself into destruction? What I mean by this, is, the incredible danger present when ruling elites actually begin to believe their national myth. It’s far worse than cynicism or ordinary lying, because doesn’t cynicism imply a form of pragmatism and rational intelligence at work?

But the profound danger is when the leaders of a country or empire start to believe in illusions and delusions, and our willing to pour vast resources into fruitless conflicts and wars, not based on a calm and rational debate about one’s interests, but plunge ahead regardless and reckless in the name of ideology and faith.

The kind of historic mistakes the United States is embarked on have happened before, to other countries and empires. The United States is not unique in this respect, only perhaps uniquely ignorant and arrogant in almost wilfully refusing to learn even the most basic lessons from the fate of other “super-powers” that over-reached themselves and squandered their wealth and power.

Is there any hope then to avert disaster? Yes, the fact that the majority of the american people have seen through the great imperial lie already and are against the current suicidal course. But do the people really have an impact on policy anymore? Does democracy still function in reality? Is american democracy more than a ritual? Is a mass revolt what’s required? Are we really only one more terrotist attack away from tyranny? All the peices are in place for tyranny. The laws, the men and the resources are waiting. We’re going to need action, hope and probably luck, to get through the coming years. One thing seems clear though. Averting an attack on Iran is a real test for american democracy. An attack on Iran, and all that could lead to, is really the United States crossing the rubicon.