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In Fallujah, a Hospital of Horrors

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Posted on Apr 26, 2012
Larisa Epatko / News Hour

A doctor at a Fallujah hospital takes care of a baby.

By Robert Fisk

This article was originally published by The Independent.

The pictures flash up on a screen on an upper floor of the Fallujah General Hospital. And all at once, Nadhem Shokr al-Hadidi’s administration office becomes a little chamber of horrors. A baby with a hugely deformed mouth. A child with a defect of the spinal cord, material from the spine outside the body. A baby with a terrible, vast Cyclopean eye. Another baby with only half a head, stillborn like the rest, date of birth 17 June, 2009. Yet another picture flicks onto the screen: date of birth 6 July 2009, it shows a tiny child with half a right arm, no left leg, no genitalia.

“We see this all the time now,” Al-Hadidi says, and a female doctor walks into the room and glances at the screen. She has delivered some of these still-born children. “I’ve never seen anything as bad as this in all my service,” she says quietly. Al-Hadidi takes phone calls, greets visitors to his office, offers tea and biscuits to us while this ghastly picture show unfolds on the screen. I asked to see these photographs, to ensure that the stillborn children, the deformities, were real. There’s always a reader or a viewer who will mutter the word “propaganda” under his breath.

But the photographs are a damning, ghastly reward for such doubts. January 7, 2010: a baby with faded, yellow skin and misshapen arms. April 26, 2010: a grey mass on the side of the baby’s head. A doctor beside me speaks of “Tetralogy of Fallot,” a transposition of the great blood vessels. May 3, 2010: a frog-like creature in which – the Fallujah doctor who came into the room says this – “all the abdominal organs are trying to get outside the body.”

This is too much. These photographs are too awful, the pain and emotion of them – for the poor parents, at least – impossible to contemplate. They simply cannot be published.

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There is a no-nonsense attitude from the doctors in Fallujah. They know that we know about this tragedy. Indeed, there is nothing undiscovered about the child deformities of Fallujah. Other correspondents – including my colleague Patrick Cockburn – have visited Fallujah to report on them. What is so shameful is that these deformities continue unmonitored. One Fallujah doctor, an obstetrician trained in Britain – she left only five months ago – who has purchased from her own sources for her private clinic a £79,000 scanning machine for prenatal detection of congenital abnormalities, gives me her name and asks why the Ministry of Health in Baghdad will not hold a full official investigation into the deformed babies of Fallujah.

“I have been to see the ministry,” she says. “They said they would have a committee. I went to the committee. And they have done nothing. I just can’t get them to respond.” Then, 24 hours later, the same woman sends a message to a friend of mine, another Iraqi doctor, asking me not to use her name.

If the number of stillborn children of Fallujah is a disgrace, the medical staff at the Fallujah General Hospital prove their honesty by repeatedly warning of the danger of reaching conclusions too soon.

“I delivered that baby,” the obstetrician says as one more picture flashes on the screen. “I don’t think this has anything to do with American weapons. The parents were close relatives. Tribal marriages here involve a lot of families who are close by blood. But you have to remember, too, that if women have stillborn children with abnormalities at home, they will not report this to us, and the baby will be buried without any record reaching us.”

The photographs continue on the screen. January 19, 2010: a baby with tiny limbs, stillborn. A baby born on 30 October, 2010, with a cleft lip and cleft palette, still alive, a hole in the heart, a defect in its face, in need of echocardiography treatment. “A cleft lip and palate are common congenital anomalies,” Dr. Samira Allani says quietly. “But it’s the increased frequency that is alarming.” Dr. Allani has documented a research paper into “the increased prevalence of birth defects” in Fallujah, a study of four fathers “with two lineages of progeny.” Congenital heart defects, the paper says, reached “unprecedented numbers” in 2010.

The numbers continue to rise. Even while we are speaking, a nurse brings a message to Dr. Allani. We go at once to an incubator next to the hospital delivery room. In the incubator is a little baby just 24 days old. Zeid Mohamed is almost too young to smile but he lies sleeping, his mother watching through the glass. She has given her permission for me to see her baby. His father is a security guard, the couple married three years ago. There is no family record of birth defects. But Zeid has only four fingers on each of his little hands.

Dr. Allani’s computer files contain a hundred Zeids. She asks another doctor to call some parents. Will they talk to a journalist? “They want to know what happened to their children,” she says. “They deserve an answer.” She is right. But neither the Iraqi authorities, nor the Americans, nor the British – who were peripherally involved in the second battle of Fallujah and lost four men – nor any major NGO, appears willing or able to help.

When doctors can obtain funding for an investigation, they sometimes turn to organisations which clearly have their own political predetermination. Dr. Allani’s paper, for example, acknowledges funding from the “Kuala Lumpur Foundation to Criminalise War” – hardly a group seeking to exonerate the use of U.S. weaponry in Fallujah. This, too, I fear, is part of the tragedy of Fallujah.

The obstetrician who asked to be anonymous talks bleakly of the lack of equipment and training. “Chromosome defects – like Down’s Syndrome – cannot be corrected prenatally. But a foetal infection we can deal with, and we can sort out this problem by drawing a sample of blood from the baby and mother. But no laboratory here has this equipment. One blood transfer is all it needs to prevent such a condition. Of course, it will not answer our questions: why the increased miscarriages here, why the increased stillbirths, why the increased premature births?”

Dr. Chris Busby, a visiting professor at the University of Ulster who has surveyed almost 5,000 people in Fallujah, agrees it is impossible to be specific about the cause of birth defects as well as cancers. “Some very major mutagenic exposure must have occurred in 2004 when the attacks happened,” he wrote two years ago. Dr. Busby’s report, compiled with Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi, says that infant mortality in Fallujah was found in 80 out of every 1,000 births, compared to 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and only 9.7 in Kuwait.

Another of the Fallujah doctors tells me that the only U.K. assistance they have received comes from Dr. Kypros Nicolaides, the head of Foetal Medicine at King’s College Hospital. He runs a charity, the Foetal Medicine Foundation, which has already trained one doctor from Fallujah. I call him up. He is bursting with anger.

“To me, the criminal aspect of all this – during the war – was that the British and the American governments could not go to Woolworths and buy some computers to even document the deaths in Iraq. So we have a Lancet publication that estimates 600,000 deaths in the war. Yet the occupying power did not have the decency to have a computer worth only £500 that would enable them to say “this body was brought in today and this was its name.”

Now you have an Arab country which has a higher number of deformities or cancers than Europe and you need a proper epidemiological study. I’m sure the Americans used weapons that caused these deformities. But now you have a goodness-knows-what government in Iraq and no study. It’s very easy to avoid to doing anything – except for some sympathetic crazy professor like me in London to try and achieve something.”

In al-Hadidi’s office, there are now photographs which defy words. How can you even begin to describe a dead baby with just one leg and a head four times the size of its body?


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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 1:22 pm Link to this comment

Next the potty-mouth no-neck will say that only HE, the Early Scientist, is qualified to investigate.

Or his patriotic raper and pillager family members ravaging Afghanistan from a desk job at The New Republic.

This site becomes more toxic every day.

We could all get cancer just from visiting it.

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 1:16 pm Link to this comment

dog—increased investigation of the claims and possible causes is exactly what
should be undertaken. we sure as hell shouldn’t rely on DoD any more than we
should rely on the stuff from the Fallujah crowd.

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 1:15 pm Link to this comment

Well, blogdog, I remember that fatass wartface Madeline Albright grunting on t.v. that half a million dead Iraqui babies was a small price to pay.

She didn’t say for WHAT.

But I suspect it had something to do with the sanctions that “softened up” Iraq so it could be invaded.

The US, since even before it was the US, has had one primary policy:  genocide against all non-whites on the planet for their land and resources.

And the no-neck potty-mouthed monsters on this site and others clap and cheer every time there’s even possibility of invading another majoritively non-white country for its resources.

Right now the cheers, belches and farts are directed towards Iran and Syria—Syria to a much lesser degree because it doesn’t have large hydrocarbon reserves.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 1:05 pm Link to this comment

http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/7/7/2828/pdf


Abstract: There have been anecdotal reports of increases in birth defects and
cancer in Fallujah, Iraq blamed on the use of novel weapons (possibly including
depleted uranium) in heavy fighting which occurred in that town between US
led forces and local elements in 2004.

[...]

Concerns have been expressed for some time about increases in cancer,
leukemia and congenital birth anomalies in Iraq. These have been blamed [4]
on mutagenic and carcinogenic agents (like depleted uranium) employed in the
wars of 1991 and 2003. Increases in childhood leukaemia in Basrah have
recently been investigated [5] and the findings confirm that there has indeed
been a significant increase since 1991.

[...]

This idea explains many observations of increases in cancer shortly (a few
years) after an exposure. For example, there seems to have been a rapid
increase in lymphoma in Italian peacekeepers potentially exposed to depleted
uranium in the Balkans

[...]

Finally, the results reported here do not throw any light upon the identity of the
agent(s) causing the increased levels of illness and although we have drawn
attention to the use of depleted uranium as one potential relevant exposure,
there may be other possibilities and we see the current study as investigating
the anecdotal evidence of increases in cancer and infant mortality in Fallujah

[...]
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clear implication:
more research and proper medical assistance; not denial and
abandonment
- policy and provence of the US DOD

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment

Put a sock in it, you despicable promoter of genocide.

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm Link to this comment

dog—- ” 38-fold increase in leukemia (20 cases)”

you want to extrapolate those 20 cases to a claim that iraq has a 30%  incidence of
leukemia and that there are actually 7,500,000 cases nationwide?

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

dog—- yes, 


Whilst the results seem to qualitatively support the existence of serious mutation-
related health effects in Fallujah, owing to the structural problems associated with
surveys of this kind, care should be exercised in interpreting the findings
quantitatively.

show wherein the paper, the authors claim any causal linkage to DU munitions
employed by US.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment

http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/7/7/2828

Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2010, 7(7), 2828-2837;
doi:10.3390/ijerph7072828
Article
Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005–2009
Chris Busby 1,* , Malak Hamdan 2 and Entesar Ariabi 3
1 Department of Molecular Biosciences, University of Ulster, Cromore Rd,
Coleraine, BT52 1SA, UK
2 100 Tanfield Avenue, Neasden, London, NW2 7RT, UK
3 82 Goldsmith Road, London, N11 3JN, UK
* Author to whom correspondence should be addressed.
Received: 7 June 2010; in revised form: 23 June 2010 / Accepted: 30 June 2010
/ Published: 6 July 2010
Download PDF Full-Text [81 KB, uploaded 6 July 2010 08:44 CET]
Abstract: There have been anecdotal reports of increases in birth defects and
cancer in Fallujah, Iraq blamed on the use of novel weapons (possibly including
depleted uranium) in heavy fighting which occurred in that town between US
led forces and local elements in 2004. In Jan/Feb 2010 the authors organised a
team of researchers who visited 711 houses in Fallujah, Iraq and obtained
responses to a questionnaire in Arabic on cancer, birth defects and infant
mortality. The total population in the resulting sample was 4,843 persons with
and overall response rate was better than 60%. Relative Risks for cancer were
age-standardised and compared to rates in the Middle East Cancer Registry
(MECC, Garbiah Egypt) for 1999 and rates in Jordan 1996–2001. Between Jan
2005 and the survey end date there were 62 cases of cancer malignancy
reported (RR = 4.22; CI: 2.8, 6.6; p < 0.00000001) including 16 cases of
childhood cancer 0-14 (RR = 12.6; CI: 4.9, 32; p < 0.00000001). Highest risks
were found in all-leukaemia in the age groups 0-34 (20 cases RR = 38.5; CI:
19.2, 77; p < 0.00000001), all lymphoma 0–34 (8 cases, RR = 9.24;CI: 4.12,
20.8; p < 0.00000001), female breast cancer 0–44 (12 cases RR = 9.7;CI: 3.6,
25.6; p < 0.00000001) and brain tumours all ages (4 cases, RR = 7.4;CI: 2.4,
23.1; P < 0.004). Infant mortality was based on the mean birth rate over the 4
year period 2006–2009 with 1/6th added for cases reported in January and
February 2010. There were 34 deaths in the age group 0–1 in this period giving
a rate of 80 deaths per 1,000 births. This may be compared with a rate of 19.8
in Egypt (RR = 4.2 p < 0.00001) 17 in Jordan in 2008 and 9.7 in Kuwait in
2008. The mean birth sex-ratio in the recent 5-year cohort was anomalous.
Normally the sex ratio in human populations is a constant with 1,050 boys
born to 1,000 girls. This is disturbed if there is a genetic damage stress. The
ratio of boys to 1,000 girls in the 0–4, 5–9, 10–14 and 15–19 age cohorts in
the Fallujah sample were 860, 1,182, 1,108 and 1,010 respectively suggesting
genetic damage to the 0–4 group (p < 0.01). Whilst the results seem to
qualitatively support the existence of serious mutation-related health effects in
Fallujah, owing to the structural problems associated with surveys of this kind,
care should be exercised in interpreting the findings quantitatively.
Keywords: Fallujah; Iraq; cancer; leukemia; depleted uranium; gulf war

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm Link to this comment

Ah. The no-neck Early Scientist dismisses the facts and information as so much kindling for the bonfire of the witch hunt.

My litmus strip turned brown when putting it next to the computer screen with no-neck’s post.

Even paper knows shit from shinola.

Don’t let the foul-mouthed genocide-pushing bully get you guys down.

You know that compassion is the way to enlightenment—not denial and malicious personal attacks.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 12:42 pm Link to this comment

indeed, the claim that no one has noticed!!!!! is soundly disproved by the many reports from those who have noticed

International Journal of Environmental Studies and Public Health (IJERPH),  Switzerland \ Genetic damage and health in Fallujah Iraq worse than Hiroshima

http://tinyurl.com/6phlzmp

Press release

Genetic damage and health in Fallujah Iraq worse than Hiroshima

Results of a population-based epidemiological study organized by Malak

Hamdan and Chris Busby are published tomorrow in the International Journal of Environmental Studies and Public Health (IJERPH) based in Basle, Switzerland. They show increases in cancer, leukemia and infant mortality and perturbations of the normal human population birth sex ratio significantly greater than those reported for the survivors of the A- Bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

Results of a survey in Jan/Feb 2010 of 711 houses and more than 4000 individuals in Fallujah show that in the five years following the 2004 attacks by USA-led forces there has been a 4-fold increase in all cancer. Interestingly, the spectrum of cancer is similar to that in the Hiroshima survivors who were exposed to ionizing radiation from the bomb and uranium in the fallout. By comparing the sample population rates to the cancer rates in Egypt and Jordan, researchers found there has been a 38-fold increase in leukemia (20 cases) almost a 10-fold increase in female breast cancer (12 cases) and significant increases in lymphoma and brain tumours in adults.

Based on 16 cases in the 5-year period, the 12-fold increases in childhood cancer in those aged 0-14 were particularly marked. The cancer and leukemia increases were all in younger people than would normally be expected. Infant mortality was found to be 80 per 1000 births which compares with a value of 19 in Egypt, 17 in Jordan and 9.7 in Kuwait.

An important result is that the sex-ratio, which in normal populations is always 1050 boys born per 1000 girls was seriously reduced in the group born immediately after 2005, one year after the conflict: in this group the sex ratio was 860.

Birth sex ratio is a well known indicator of genetic damage, the reduction in boy births being due to the fact that girls have a redundant X-chromosome and can therefore afford to lose one though genetic damage; boys do not. Sex ratio was similarly reduced in the Hiroshima survivors children. “This is an extraordinary and alarming result” said Dr Busby, who is visiting Professor in the University of Ulster and Scientific Director of Green Audit, an independent environmental research organization. He added:  “To produce an effect like this, some very major mutagenic exposure must have occurred in 2004 when the attacks happened. We need urgently to find out what the agent was.  Although many suspect Uranium, we cannot be certain without further research and independent analysis of samples from the area.” Malak Hamdan, who organized the project said: ” I am so glad that we have been able to obtain proper scientific confirmation of all the anecdotal evidence of cancer and congenital birth defects. Maybe now the international community will wake up”.

Contact: Chris Busby (France) +44 7989 428833 Malak Hamdan (London) +44 7903 153163 Richard Bramhall: +44 1597 825771
Chris Busby, Malak Hamdan and Entesar Ariabi Cancer, Infant Mortality and Birth Sex-Ratio in Fallujah, Iraq 2005–2009 Int. J. Environ. Res. Public Health 2010, 7, 1-x; doi:10.3390/ijerph707000x

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 12:25 pm Link to this comment

dia—- a claim has indeed been made—- but it’s simply not a proven claim nor all
that likely to be proven.


If an early education in science has blinded me, I’m sorry.

on the other hand, have you any science education at all?

I can’t see how taking an unproven claim and swallowing it without fact or
verification is any better than is burning witches.

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By diamond, April 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment

“dia—- if you can read and understand what’s being said by that retired bomb-
maker you would notice that there’s no claim of contamination of people not in
the area of impact at the time of impact…......”

You are a perfect example of the saying, ‘There is none so blind as he who will not see.’

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 11:26 am Link to this comment

a claim was made: ....yet….no one has noticed!!!!!

a quote was cited to show this: many have noticed

our resident troll-sod, again typically conflates and construes countervailing
citations into garrulous polemics, culminating, as usual, in gratuitous ad hominem
invective - desperate and self-defeating by any standard

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 10:55 am Link to this comment

blogdog:

But an equally heinous crime is being committed right here on truthdig.

One of the aspects of the Genocide Conventions, besides the obvious ones about attempts (whether or not they are successful) to destroy a people or a specific group of people—is that DENIAL of genocide is also a crime.

And today—of all days—the 37th anniversary of the fal of Saigon—right here on truthdig plastic dotcom we have a shameless US “patriot” claiming that agent orange—which destroyed massive sections of entire generations of the Vietnamese people—was good for them, and that the US military only had their best interests at heart by killing them softly (and not so softly) with its chemical weapons.

The horror.

The horror.

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 10:54 am Link to this comment

dog—- if you believe that 30% of iraqis have leukemia and that that fantastic
claim by some untrained person without any access to any data at all about it is
worth repeating , I gotta believe that you no shit-all about science or health.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 10:41 am Link to this comment

it’s pretty clear who “...can’t read…” around here


Prior to her death from leukemia in Sept. 2004, Nuha Al Radi , an accomplished
Iraqi artist and author of the “Baghdad Diaries” wrote:

“Everyone seems to be dying of cancer. Every day one hears about another
acquaintance or friend of a friend dying. How many more die in hospitals that
one does not know? Apparently, over thirty percent of Iraqis have cancer, and
there are lots of kids with leukemia.”

“The depleted uranium left by the U.S. bombing campaign has turned Iraq into
a cancer-infested country. For hundreds of years to come, the effects of the
uranium will continue to wreak havoc on Iraq and its surrounding areas.”

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

The non-neck troll has more about him than simply the odor of mendacity.

He has the mysterious odor of someone who claims to live inside the mind of the ayatollahs, and to be the only scientist on the planet thhat has it right about the effects of depleted uranium and aganet orange—both of which he claims are miracle drugs that will cure anything and everything—given enough time.

Clearly, he is not from planet earth—nor does he live on it.

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 10:30 am Link to this comment

dia—- if you can read and understand what’s being said by that retired bomb-
maker you would notice that there’s no claim to contamination of people not in
the area of impact at the time of impact…......


and, as the claim is that the particle are inhaled, there’s no way to say that it’s
inhaled DU causing birth defects, without resorting to the extremely unlikely
claim that all the parents are severely ill and ....yet….no one has noticed!!!!!

despite all the parents interacting with the same physicians reporting the birth
defects.


the theory isn’t consistent with the observable data, which is something that
they taught us ....renders it flawed.

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By americanme, April 30, 2012 at 10:16 am Link to this comment

Genocide:  The foreign and domestic policy of the USA.

The gift that keeps on giving.

Millions after millions.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 9:37 am Link to this comment

RE: ...every physicist alive.

WRONG

Depleted Uranium - Far Worse Than 9/11
Depleted Uranium Dust - Public Health Disaster For The People Of Iraq and
Afghanistan

by Doug Westerman
Global Research, May 3, 2006

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2374

[...]

Marion Falk, a retired chemical physicist who built nuclear bombs
for more than 20 years at Lawrence Livermore Lab, was asked if he thought
that DU weapons operate in a similar manner as a dirty bomb.

“That’s exactly what they are. They fit the description of a dirty bomb in every
way.”

According to Falk, more than 30 percent of the DU fired from the cannons of
U.S. tanks is reduced to particles one-tenth of a micron (one millionth of a
meter) in size or smaller on impact.  “The larger the bang” the greater the
amount of DU that is dispersed into the atmosphere, Falk said. With the larger
missiles and bombs, nearly 100 percent of the DU is reduced to radioactive dust
particles of the “micron size” or smaller, he said.

When asked if the main purpose for using it was for destroying things and
killing people, Falk was more specific:

“I would say that it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people.”


When a DU round or bomb strikes a hard target, most of its kinetic energy is
converted to heat ” sufficient heat to ignite the DU.  From 40% to 70% of the DU
is converted to extremely fine dust particles of ceramic uranium oxide
(primarily dioxide, though other formulations also occur). Over 60% of these
particles are smaller than 5 microns in diameter, about the same size as the
cigarette ash particles in cigarette smoke and therefore respirable.

Because conditions are so chaotic in Iraq, the medical infrastructure has been
greatly compromised.  In terms of both cancer and birth defects due to DU, only
a small fraction of the cases are being reported.

Doctors in southern Iraq are making comparisons to the birth defects that
followed the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII. They have
numerous photos of infants born without brains, with their internal organs
outside their bodies, without sexual organs, without spines, and the list of
deformities goes on an on.  Such birth defects were extremely rare in Iraq prior
to the large scale use of DU. Weapons. Now they are commonplace.  In hospitals
across Iraq, the mothers are no longer asking, “Doctor, is it a boy or girl?” but
rather, “Doctor, is it normal?”  The photos are horrendous, they can be viewed
on the following website

Ross B. Mirkarimi, a spokesman at The Arms Control Research Centre stated:

“Unborn children of the region are being asked to pay the highest price, the
integrity of their DNA.”

Prior to her death from leukemia in Sept. 2004, Nuha Al Radi , an accomplished
Iraqi artist and author of the “Baghdad Diaries” wrote:

“Everyone seems to be dying of cancer. Every day one hears about another
acquaintance or friend of a friend dying. How many more die in hospitals that
one does not know? Apparently, over thirty percent of Iraqis have cancer, and
there are lots of kids with leukemia.”

“The depleted uranium left by the U.S. bombing campaign has turned Iraq into
a cancer-infested country. For hundreds of years to come, the effects of the
uranium will continue to wreak havoc on Iraq and its surrounding areas.”


[...]

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By heterochromatic, April 30, 2012 at 8:05 am Link to this comment

diamond—- it ain’t the people who used it who are saying that DU isn’t the cause,
it’s every physicist alive.

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By diamond, April 30, 2012 at 2:10 am Link to this comment

Chemical Warfare: Agent Orange
Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:28 By H Patricia Hynes, Truthout | Report

“As long as Agent Orange is not addressed, along with the reparations that the US agreed to offer the Vietnamese, the Indochina War cannot be considered over. Rather, it entered a different phase, a phase without artillery and gunshots, but a phase in which millions continue to suffer and die in agony.
During the ten years (1961-1971) of aerial chemical warfare in Vietnam, US warplanes sprayed more than 20 million gallons of herbicide defoliants in an operation code-named Ranch Hand. Agent Orange, the dioxin-contaminated and exceedingly toxic herbicide manufactured by a handful of chemical companies for the US Department of Defense, constituted about 61 percent of the total herbicides sprayed in the war. The particular dioxin found in Agent Orange (TCDD) is the one of the most toxic environmental contaminants, found to cause cancer, birth defects and disruptions to the immune and endocrine systems.

A late 1980s investigation by Adm. Elmo Zumwait, former commander of the US Navy in Vietnam and father of a naval officer who died following exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam, unearthed evidence that the US military had knowingly augmented the defoliant’s toxicity by spraying “Agent Orange in concentrations six to 25 times the suggested rate.” Other investigations of court and National Archives documents have uncovered that the Agent Orange manufacturer Dow Chemical Company knew as early as 1965 that the dioxin contaminant in the defoliant was “one of the most toxic materials known ...” and that, as early as 1957, the company knew that dioxin could be eliminated by lowering the temperature and slowing the manufacturing process. But eliminating dioxin would delay production and reduce company profits when wartime production called for rapid, high-quantity manufacture.
The US government also knew of the defoliant’s toxicity, according to a memo found during Zumwait’s 1988 investigation. Dr. James R. Clary, a former senior scientist at the US Air Force Chemical Weapons Branch who had designed the spray tanks for Operation Ranch Hand, wrote in response to a Congressional investigation into Agent Orange:

‘When we initiated the herbicide program in the 1960s, we were aware of the potential for damage due to dioxin contamination in the herbicide. We were even aware that the military formulation had a higher dioxin concentration than the civilian version due to the lower cost and speed of manufacture. However, because the material was to be used on the enemy, none of us were overly concerned. We never considered a scenario in which our own personnel would become contaminated with the herbicide.’

I simply can’t have any faith in the claims of the organization who used Agent Orange with such devastating consequences, when they say that depleted uranium weapons haven’t caused birth defects and childhood leukemia in Fallajah. They said the same thing about Agent Orange for many decades and we now know they lied.

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By blogdog, April 30, 2012 at 12:18 am Link to this comment

“Veni, vidi, vici” (Classical Latin: [?we?ni? ?wi?di? ?wi?ki?]; Ecclesiastical Latin:
[?v?ni ?vidi ?vit?i]; “I came, I saw, I conquered.”) is a Latin sentence reportedly
written by Julius Caesar in 47 BC - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni,_vidi,_vici

“reportedly” written - therefore… it may very well be anti-Roman agitprop
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ergo:  http://tinyurl.com/7jrzycz may as well be, as asserted by our resident
troll-sod in this thread, since the quote is also “reported” and no “original’ source
from 1849 is cited anywhere - never mind the abundance of historical facts on
the Criminal Rothschilds - and our resident troll-sod will undoubtedly continue
to conflate any and all pertinent citations with the notion of ‘anti-semitism’,
even though the ‘semitic’ identity is linguistic and applicable to many ethnicities
within the region… i.e. we know what’s going on here

Criminal Rothschilds
“If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” Gutle Schnaper. Mayer
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By coupe, April 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm Link to this comment

you are very amusing smilewhen you let go of your fear and hope, what is left is the truth

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By heterochromatic, April 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm Link to this comment

coupe—- now that you know the half0life, perhaps you might learn that the
shit is barely radioactive..


......” ‘depleted’ uranium has very low levels of radioactivity - in fact, less than
the original unrefined uranium oxide dug out of the ground…”.....

http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae576.cfm

what’s the half-life of helium, coupr? 


maybe the light will go on and you;ll realize that things that are tremendously
stable and have zillion-year half-lives are things that are not quickly decaying
and emitting vast amounts of particles.

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By coupe, April 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm Link to this comment

OH!!! i forgot, the half life of DU is 4.5 billion years,on youtube there a great video, it is, empty suits and the darkness that moves them smile,MAY I BE A DOCTOR FOR THOSE WHO ARE SICK TELL THEY ARE CURED, MAY I BE A PROTECTOR FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE ONE, MAY I BE A BRIDGE, A BOAT,A SHIP FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO CROSS THE WATER.one of the 37 practices of a bodhisattva. Pema Chozang smile

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By heterochromatic, April 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm Link to this comment

dog——-


A) that’s pretty much a quote with entirely different meaning from the earlier
one you put up and which springs from rabidly and insanely anti-Semitic
shitheads

and

B) if you read the damn link you just put up, you might just notice that it’s a
damn story and not a quotation.

BTW, you might not be interested to know that the old lady spent her live in the
ghetto in frankfurt ...on Judenstrasse…....

dog, think twice before passing along ugly old shit as if it’s wisdom

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By blogdog, April 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm Link to this comment

HIs Satanic Sod’s request:

Gutle (Gudula) Schnapper
(1753 — 1849)
Mother of the Rothschild brothers

http://tinyurl.com/7bmqygj

People told an interesting episode: once, a worried Frankfurt mother came
to Gudula in tears: “There are rumors that there’s going to be a war, and they
will take my only son”. A subtle smile touched old Frau Rothschild’s face:
“Don’t worry,” she said, “there’s not going to be a war. My sons will not finance
it”.

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By coupe, April 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

go to US Environmental Protectinn Agency and look up cesium -137 this is what is getting into the food and water

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By heterochromatic, April 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

dia——keep reading and you’ll reach an understanding
that the danger from DU weapons is at the moment of
impact when the aerosols enter the lungs and not after
the dust settles…...

you’re just barking up the wrong tree trying to blame
the birth defects of kids whose parents haven’t been
poisoned by DU on DU.. The science doesn’t support it.

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By diamond, April 29, 2012 at 4:20 pm Link to this comment

From the same article:

‘“Weak Radioactivity”: The Deceptive Defense of DU
and its use in weapons of war have eluded public scrutiny because they have been dismissed by government agencies as weak radioactivity, with the implication that it is mildly toxic and acceptable for use in war. Further, the normative radiation risk model used by UN and national health agencies predicts no measurable health effects in civilian and soldiers exposed to particulates from DU weapons and their targets. The mutual consensus of DU munitions countries is that DU radiation is low-dose radiation, and their risk model predicts no health effects. End of story. However, a growing number of scientists have challenged this minimalist assessment and have added gravitas to the debate on using DU in war. Their new research findings and the activist work of NGOs, DU-exposed veterans groups and those documenting the increase in disease and birth defects among the Iraqi population have kept the issue of DU exposure from dying a natural death due to willful government neglect.

In testifying to the European Parliament in 2005 on DU exposure from weapons use, risk assessment expert Keith Baverstock stated that upon impact with a hardened target, DU munitions produce fine particles of depleted uranium oxide (DUO) which have no analogue in nature, nor in the refining and processing of uranium.

Further, Baverstock posits that when DUO inhaled particles penetrate deeply into the lung, they pose a radiological risk from alpha emissions, in addition to the chemical risk of genetic damage to cells. The potential synergy between the two toxic effects can make DUO more carcinogenic than earlier risk assessments have concluded.

By 2008, more than 20 peer-reviewed scientific papers reported on the enhanced mutagenicity (the capacity to induce mutations via damage to DNA) of uranium in the body. The findings contest the adequacy of the radiation risk model promulgated by the International Commission on Radiological Protection and normatively used by governments. The normative risk model calculates cancer risk based on external radiation dose and does not take into consideration chronic, internal, low-dose radiation exposure which, research after the first Gulf war reveals, have both synergistic and magnifying effects on local cells. Yet the UN, governments, military and their risk agencies hold atavistically to their risk model to maintain DU weapon use.
The growing evidence-based case against depleted uranium is like salt in a wound for the military-industrial-risk analysis complex and also the nuclear power industry. The more fine-grained our understanding of how low doses of internal uranium exposure cause genetic damage, and the more this knowledge challenges the glib dismissal of DU as feeble, environmentally localized radioactivity, the graver the implications for the nuclear power industry that generates the toxic material.

What Is Depleted Uranium and Why Is It Used in War?

Depleted uranium is the waste product of the uranium enrichment process for nuclear power reactors and nuclear weapons. It consists of the same components as natural uranium but has differing proportions of uranium isotopes, with slightly more U238 and a reduced amount of U235, such that it has about 60 percent of the radioactivity of uranium. The United States has stockpiled an estimated 450,000 tons of DU. Thus, using it in war has become a convenient method of disposal in other countries’ environments.”

Contact the ‘International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons’ to learn of the campaign and to get involved.

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By heterochromatic, April 29, 2012 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

dog—-perhaps you could provide a link to that supposed
quotation from someone supposedly named “Gutle
Rothschild”


did you take that from Real Jew News?

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=599

or did you come across it somewhere else?

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By heterochromatic, April 29, 2012 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

dia——I invite you to learn the difference in
radiation emissions of enriched uranium and depleted
uranium…..

....“Since depleted uranium is weakly radioactive,
the public has been concerned about the possiblility
of adverse health effects from DU. DU is a heavy
metal, and like all heavy metals such as mercury and
lead, is toxic. However, except in certain very
unusual situations, it is the chemical toxicity and
not the radioactivity that is of concern.”

....“A truly enormous body of scientific data shows
that it is virtually impossible for uranium to be the
cause of their illnesses. Despite this body of
scientific data to the contrary, misguided or
unknowing people continue to allege that the depleted
uranium, and specifically the radioactivity
associated with the depleted uranium is the cause of
these illness. This is indeed unfortunate, for health
physicists and other scientists and physicians
already know that depleted uranium is not the cause
of these illnesses and thus any investigations into
the cause of these illnesses should focus on other
possible causes.

If we are to offer any measure of relief or solace to
these suffering people, and to gain some important
additional knowledge of the cause of their illness,
we should not waste our valuable and limited
energies, resources, and time attempting to point the
finger at depleted uranium as the culprit, when it is
already known that uranium is almost certainly not
the cause of the problem. With respect to reactions
with the soil, in time depleted uranium will likely
leach into the soil and become mixed with it. It will
for all practical purposes be chemically
indistinguishable from the natural uranium that is
already present in the soil all over the earth.”

Ronald L. Kathren, CHP
Professor Emeritus Washington State University

http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q746.html

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By diamond, April 29, 2012 at 3:27 pm Link to this comment

2) white phosphorus (which is worse) -yes”.

You’re splitting hairs. White phosphorous is an absolutely horrific weapon which does exactly what napalm did - burn human bodies- with the added bonus that it burns human bodies not only on the surface of the skin but burns human bodies to the bone.

Radioactivity causes fetal deformities: that is common knowledge. Depleted uranium weapons create radioactivity. Connect the dots.

Patricia Hynes 25th August 25th 2011 – Truthout

A Tale of Two Cities: Birth Defects and Cancers Since the Gulf and Iraq Wars

Falluja
In November 2004, coalition forces led by the US Marine Corps besieged the town of Falluja in Al Anbar Province, using intense shelling with supporting airstrikes to destroy the Sunni insurgents’ stronghold there. Up to 20 percent of Falluja’s buildings were destroyed, and one-half to two-thirds of those remaining suffered notable damage from missiles, airstrikes and tank fire. (The attacks recall the infamous comment a war reporter attributed to an unnamed source in 1968, who said it was necessary to destroy the South Vietnamese village of Ben Tre in order to save it.) After the fighting ceased and displaced residents returned, the rubble of demolished buildings and other detritus of war were bulldozed to the bank of the Euphrates River, the river that serves as a drinking water source for most residents. The United States had staked its military manhood on this operation, having failed to vanquish the Falluja-based insurgents five months earlier in the first intense artillery assault on the town. The national press covered Operation Phantom Fury (as the siege was named) like fans in the bleachers of a winning team, cheering the Marines’ grit, strength of fighting force and war heroics. Subsequently, commercial video games were produced, with input from active-duty and retired Marines who fought in Falluja, to commemorate the iconic battle in macho-style entertainment for men and boys.
The dark side of the battle for Falluja was solely found in non-mainstream press accounts. Investigative reporter Dahr Jamail learned from eyewitnesses of brutal tactics and “unusual weapons” used by the US military. Many prohibitions of international law governing armed conflict were violated in the battle for Falluja: white phosphorous was used as a weapon; Iraqi Red Crescent was forbidden from entering the city to aid victims; US armored tanks deliberately rolled over the wounded; residents with makeshift white flags were shot in broad daylight, and their rescuers were also shot; Falluja Hospital doctors were prohibited from operating on their patients; and other hospital patients were forcibly removed. The intensive shelling and artillery firing of structures left in its wake a toxic environment of depleted uranium contamination.

Rumors of excessive cancers and birth defects in post-2004 Falluja began leaking into the international press, yet few, if any, made headlines in the US media. In 2010, a BBC correspondent interviewed medical staff at the new Falluja General Hospital, built with American aid and showcased as the good face of the American preemptive war. Iraqi physicians reported that excess cases of severe birth defects were increasing yearly since the 2004 siege of the town. The reporter visited the pediatric ward and described being stunned by the horrific number of birth defects he witnessed and their shocking severity: children born with multiple heads; others, paralyzed, seriously brain damaged, missing limbs, and with extra fingers and toes.”

H. Patricia Hynes is a retired professor of environmental health from Boston University and chairs the board of the Traprock Center for Peace and Justice.

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By americanme, April 29, 2012 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment

Genocide:  The US gift to non-whites that keeps on giving.

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By blogdog, April 29, 2012 at 10:39 am Link to this comment

American values???? - mythical legend

“If my sons did not want wars, there would be no wars.”~ Gutle Rothschild

so why to ‘want wars’?

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By andrushka, April 29, 2012 at 3:36 am Link to this comment

Have read this article.  Have read the posts debating the causes of those horrible deformities.  That’s like debating on the sex of angels.  Who cares?  The only evident reason is American weapons that are going to kill for a long time still as they still do with Orange agent in Vietnam, and for what I ask:  American values????

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By Nick Zedd, April 28, 2012 at 10:45 pm Link to this comment
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We need to see the photos of those babies. Never hide the truth. Covering up
damning evidence is another form of complicity.

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By grumpynyker, April 28, 2012 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment
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I think before John and Jane Doh settle in front of
the idiot box to watch Dancing With the
Stars,American Idol or “reality” shows, ninety
minutes of real time satellite footage of hospital
workers caring for women/children deformed by
depleted uranium SHOULD BE MANDATORY VIEWING ON ALL
NETWORK/CABLE TELEVISION CHANNELS NOT UNLIKE
PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESSES TO THE NATION!
This same footage must be aired prior to any
screening of Hollywood movies;maybe that will
penetrate their bubble how their tax dollars are
really working(“bringing democracy indeed”).

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 4:11 pm Link to this comment

dia——- don’t link the stuff about napalm to the other stuff about DU and the
Fallujah birth defects…......


they’re different things.


summing up

1) naplam -no

but

2) white phosphorus (which is worse) -yes

3) DU -was used in Iraq, but might or might not have been used in the vicinity
of Fallujah

4) but not proven and doubtful to be responsible for the claims in this story…..


you can try and say that it did, but the science and the evidence isn’t there and
you can’t support the claim.

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By diamond, April 28, 2012 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment

Well, thank you for your concern about accuracy Hetero. It’s laudable. And I accept your point that these chemical weapons are related to napalm but are even worse. But the overall drift of your comment seemed to be that it wasn’t napalm so the whole criticism of what happened in Fallujah was ‘bullshit’. You’ve also argued vigorously that depleted uranium weapons are not responsible for the deformities they have clearly caused. I remember the same line of argument was run on Agent Orange - and still is. I’ll be accurate if you will be. I think that’s fair enough. It’s not accurate to say uranium depleted weapons didn’t cause these deformities. They did. But, of course, when your army has killed 1.3 million Iraqis I suppose Fallujah is small beer. But not to the the mothers and fathers of these deformed babies, I can assure you. Deformed babies are still being born to the descendants of victims of Agent Orange in Vietnam so this will go on for several generations.

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 3:32 pm Link to this comment

dia——  saying that it wasn’t napalm used, and that it might have been two
things even more horrific ain’t exactly a defense, if you take a minute and think
about it.

my comment was in the interest of accuracy and in hope of motivating folks to
select their links with more care.

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By diamond, April 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment

“dia——it’s never been substantiated that napalm was used and it’s probably bullshit.”

No, if they had used bullshit there would have been that tell-tale stink of bull excrement hanging in the air. The real question is why you fly to the defense of mass murderers every chance you get. And your description of those weapons of horror that might as well be called ‘son of napalm’ and ‘cousin of napalm’ as ‘no napalm’ shows what a hypocrite you really are. They may not be CALLED napalm but that’s what they are in all but name and from what I’ve read are in fact even more horrific in their effects than their father, napalm.

You simply don’t want them to be called napalm because of the emotive response of the association of that chemical (made by Dow Chemical, I believe) with the little girl running down the road naked and burned in Vietnam. People like you never want to see the victims of your politics in the (burned) flesh and you can never call napalm, napalm for that reason. And how typical that you fly to law instead of morality. Hasn’t been banned by the UN? And yet you don’t ask why, do you? You’re happy to trot out the legalese and let morality go hang. Clear and unequivocal evidence that you’re a conservative. What happened in Fallujah was a war crime and you can carp and exercise your pedantry over which weapon of mass destruction was used to commit the war crime all you like. What you can’t do is make it not a war crime. And why did the US army remove two kilometres of soil from Fallajah? Are they just tidy sons of bitches who can’t stop doing housekeeping? Or criminals removing evidence of their crime? You know the answer.

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

dia——it’s never been substantiated that napalm was used and it’s probably
bullshit.


it’s just not used anymore….we have incendiary weapons and may have used
them, but no napalm.


white phosphorus or a successor to napalm known as Mark 77 ( which we used in
the first Gulf War) are the possibilities.

and BTW, the use of napalm hasn’t been banned by the UN

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

grokker—- I certainly understand that elevated exposure to radioactivity harms
humans.

the reports from Fallujah are anything but clear….. the claims of extraordinary
levels of birth defects merit investigation, not guessing at a conclusion.

DU is MUCH more chemically toxic than radiologically….. it just is SO unlikely
that the parents, who would have had to be directly exposed, haven’t all
sickened.

justice requires that trying to figure out what’s happened and happening rather
than guessing.


science requires that an hypothesis be tested.

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By diamond, April 28, 2012 at 1:08 pm Link to this comment

Napalm in Fallujah by Mike Whitney

“The US also used napalm in the siege of Fallujah as was reported in the UK Mirror (“Fallujah Napalmed”, 11-28-04) The Mirror said, “President George Bush has sanctioned the use of napalm, a deadly cocktail of polystyrene and jet-fuel banned by the United Nations in 1980, will stun the world.. Reports claim that innocent civilians have died in napalm attacks, which turn victims into human fireballs as the gel bonds flames to flesh.Since the American assault on Fallujah there have been reports of ‘melted’ corpses, which appeared to have napalm injuries.”

“Human fireballs” and “melted corpses”; these are the real expressions of Operation Iraqi Freedom not the bland platitudes issuing from the presidential podium.

Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli, who was the head of the Iraqi Ministry of Health in Fallujah, reported to Al Jazeera (and to the Washington Post, although it was never reported) that “research, prepared by his medical team, prove that the US forces used internationally prohibited substances, including mustard gas, nerve gas, and other burning chemicals in their attacks on the war-torn city.”

Dr Shaykhli’s claims have been corroborated by numerous eyewitness accounts as well as reports that “all forms of nature were wiped out in Fallujah” as well as “hundreds, of stray dogs, cats, and birds that had perished as a result of those gasses.” An unidentified chemical was used in the bombing raids that killed every living creature in certain areas of the city.

As journalist Dahr Jamail reported later in his article “What is the US trying to Hide?”, “At least two kilometers of soil were removed..exactly as they did at Baghdad Airport after the heavy battles there during the invasion and the Americans used their special weapons.”

A cover up?

So far, none of this has appeared in any American media, nor has the media reported that the United Nations has been rebuffed twice by the Defense Dept. in calling for an independent investigation into what really took place in Fallujah. The US simply waves away the international body as a minor nuisance while the media scrupulously omits any mention of the allegations from their coverage.

We can assume that the order to use napalm (as well as the other, unidentified substances) came straight from the office of Donald Rumsfeld. No one else could have issued that order, nor would they have risked their career by unilaterally using banned weapons when their use was entirely gratuitous. Rumsfeld’s directive is consistent with other decisions attributed to the Defense Secretary; like the authorizing of torture at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, the targeting of members of the press, and the rehiring of members of Saddam’s Secret Police (the Mukhabarat) to carry out their brutal activities under new leadership. Rumsfeld’s office has been the headwaters for most of the administration’s treachery. Napalm simply adds depth to an already prodigious list of war crimes on Rumsfeld’s resume.”

The town was cordoned off and it was a free fire zone meaning anyone still in the town was killable regardless of age or gender. It was obviously and provably a war crime.

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By grokker, April 28, 2012 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

In addition, Hetero, just because,as you say, “neither the science nor the evidence has established any linkage”, that may be true for DU weaponry, but there has been tons of research on the aftereffects of DU weaponry, which is radioactivity and radiation. Tell me you’re not one of those weirdos that actually thinks that nuclear power is safe!! It must be safe right, ‘cause we’re all not dead…..

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By grokker, April 28, 2012 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

Hetero Sorry if I misunderstood your point. When we keep asking for “evidence” in the case of something that is so incredibly out of the ordinary, we could be waiting forever and that is what usually happens and justice is never served. The circumstantial evidence alone is enough. The science on the effect of uranium on DNA and cell life is there and in abundance. Here’s the situation; you have a non mutated population before the U.S. occupation - they explode thousands of tons of DU shells and phosphorus shells and now there are illnesses and birth defects. Do you think the Iraqis are lying? There are people from around the world studying this. Or do you think that too much reciting of the Koran is the cause? If it is something else, then we can be dammed assured that the U.S. is behind it.

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 12:41 pm Link to this comment

grokker——you misunderstand what it is that I said if you think that I’m saying
that there are no illnesses caused in Iraq from uraniom poisoning.

what I DID say is that the stuff about baby birth defects in Fallujah is not at all
clearly tied to our DU munitions.

neither the science nor the evidence has established any linkage…..what is being
presented is a spike in birth defects and a theory….nothing more at this point…....

I’ll be glad to dig through some evidence…..,where is it?

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By grokker, April 28, 2012 at 11:52 am Link to this comment

@blogdog   I wouldn’t liken the military to a priesthood. It’s more of a high tech slave class, expendable because bodies can be replaced. Currently, what’s left of the U.S., substantively, is a country that serves only as the military arm of corporate globalization. While most Americans were asleep at the switch for the last 40 years or so, the state managed to amass all of the weapons, biological, nuclear, laser, chemical and so on, rendering resistance futile. Assault on free speech is rapidly becoming a reality with mind boggling precedents being set nearly every day. Good luck and godspeed, John Glenn.

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By blogdog, April 28, 2012 at 11:35 am Link to this comment

Instances of Use of United States Forces Abroad, 1798 - 1993

by Ellen C. Collier, Specialist in U.S. Foreign Policy,
Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division
Washington DC: Congressional Research Service—Library of Congress—
October 7, 1993

http://www.history.navy.mil/wars/foabroad.htm

Summary

This report lists 234 instances in which the United States has used its
armed forces abroad in situations of conflict or potential conflict or for other
than normal peacetime purposes.
It brings up to date a 1989 list that was
compiled in part from various older lists and is intended primarily to provide a
rough sketch survey of past U.S. military ventures abroad. A detailed description
and analysis are not undertaken here.

[...]

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By grokker, April 28, 2012 at 11:14 am Link to this comment

Hetero, I suggest you get your little Truthdig plastic shovel out and dig a little deeper if you’re suggesting that there has been no other illnesses borne by the Iraqi people due to DU - only birth defects. Cancer that spreads fast, the outbreak of infectious diseases due to fast spreading cancer, leukemia, aplastic anemia, and malignant tumor, and immunodeficiency, massive herpes, and herpes zoster pain, symptoms resembling AIDS, syndrome due to liver and kidney dysfunction - all have befallen the Iraqis in rates of 20x or more than normal. Not to mention the mysterious ailments that have plagued returning veterans all the way back from the Gulf War, causing an inordinate number to commit suicide to escape the misery.

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 10:34 am Link to this comment

that was merely idiotic rhetoric, dog. there’s no more a priesthood of warriors now
than there ever was.

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By blogdog, April 28, 2012 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

Worship of the US military must end
Glenn Wright
Political Buzz Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/article/worship-of-the-us-military-must-end

The nation’s new priesthood of war ministers and generals are
fundamentally architects of death.

The elevation of the US military to a position of Church of War, and the generals
to its initiated high priests, with the notion that every soldier becomes a “hero”
for obeying any order, no matter how stupid and heinous, is just one symptom
of the dumbing-down and thuggishness of America.

[...]

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 9:18 am Link to this comment

good point dog and sorry for yet another of my million typos , with that “Monet”
for Moret”.


I appreciate the correction and the droll way in which you highlighted my dumb
mistake.


but I gotta keep asking you to be a bit more selective about the sources you’re
citing . some folks you put up are as f’ed-up as Cheney, Orly Taitz or even
John Yoo.

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By blogdog, April 28, 2012 at 8:37 am Link to this comment

so what if Claude Monet was said to have suffered from Clinical Depression…
compare his gift to the world to that of compatriot Napolean Bonepart - perhaps
lost amongst a people who don’t need art, only celebrities, and in particular
literally worship military achievement

how else to explain so short a national history, so dense with foreign military
enterprise, mostly against virtually unarmed agrarian populations

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 8:03 am Link to this comment

dog——other than Monet’s mental health problems, what you find praiseworthy
in her assertions?

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By blogdog, April 28, 2012 at 7:57 am Link to this comment

The Evil Men Do
http://www.lewrockwell.com/klassen/klassen87.html
by Robert Klassen

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Naturally DC has been lying about the danger all along, but the unexamined
issue is why did they decide to use these weapons at all? Why did we need
armor piercing ordinance against “enemies” who had no armor? Were we up
against tanks and battleships in the Balkans and Afghanistan? Were Iraqi tanks
impervious to conventional weapons? Are mud-brick buildings really that
tough? What is the point of seeding a region with radioactive aerosols and dust
that will kill for generations to come? Only one comes to mind: Depopulate the
region.

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By heterochromatic, April 28, 2012 at 7:11 am Link to this comment

yeah, dog, the birth defects ARE not well-attributed to
DU if Rokke’s theories are correct because the
contaminated parents would all be having obvious and
likely severe health problems….the DU poisoning would
be apparent in .... the parents…..

without those reports, the linkage to the next
generation doesn’t fit Rokke’s model.

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By blogdog, April 27, 2012 at 11:54 pm Link to this comment

RE: ...demonic, cheap and vile… - don’t be so kind

here Leuren Moret talks about systematic population reduction
http://www.knowthelies.com/node/3942 - AKA genocide

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By blogdog, April 27, 2012 at 10:33 pm Link to this comment

RE: the birth defects are hard to attribute to US DU.

?!?!?! - indeed - ?!?!?!

here’s Dr Rokke….....

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/our-planet-our-selves/594


QUESTION: Any viewer who saw the war on television had the impression this
was an easy war, fought from a distance and soldiers coming back relatively
unharmed. Is this an accurate picture?

ROKKE: At the completion of the Gulf War, when we came back to the United
States in the fall of 1991, we had a total casualty count of 760: 294 dead, a
little over 400 wounded or ill. But the casualty rate now for Gulf War veterans is
approximately 30 percent. Of those stationed in the theater, including after the
conflict, 221,000 have been awarded disability, according to a Veterans Affairs
(VA) report issued September 10, 2002.

Many of the US casualties died as a direct result of uranium munitions friendly
fire. US forces killed and wounded US forces.

We recommended care for anybody downwind of any uranium dust, anybody
working in and around uranium contamination, and anyone within a vehicle,
structure, or building that’s struck with uranium munitions. That’s thousands
upon thousands of individuals, but not only US troops. You should provide
medical care not only for the enemy soldiers but for the Iraqi women and
children affected, and clean up all of the contamination in Iraq.

And it’s not just children in Iraq. It’s children born to soldiers after they came
back home. The military admitted that they were finding uranium excreted in
the semen of the soldiers. If you’ve got uranium in the semen, the genetics are
messed up. So when the children were conceived—the alpha particles
cause such tremendous cell damage and genetics damage that everything goes
bad. Studies have found that male soldiers who served in the Gulf War were
almost twice as likely to have a child with a birth defect and female soldiers
almost three times as likely.

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By heterochromatic, April 27, 2012 at 8:06 pm Link to this comment

good post, dog.

Rokke has interesting things to say, and if he’s right, it seems clear that the
reports of waves of mutations in Fallujah caused by DU weapons used by the
US there are really questionable.

Rokke’s claims would lead one to expect that it’s the living that we should
expect to see sickened to extraordinary levels…..we should be seeing masses of
organ illnesses in the Fallujah area ...lungs, kidneys and livers….. without that,
the birth defects are hard to attribute to US DU.

here’s Dr Rokke….....

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/our-planet-our-selves/594


and here’s a general tour of the scientific work on DU

http://tinyurl.com/6ucnulc

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By blogdog, April 27, 2012 at 7:27 pm Link to this comment


DU Syndrome Stricken Vets Denied Care
Pentagon Hides DU Dangers to Deny Medical Care to Vets

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/du_syndrome.html
By Christopher Bollyn


Far from the radioactive battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, another war is
being waged. This war, over the use of depleted uranium (DU) weapons, is
being fought between the military top brass and the men who understand the
dangers of DU: former military doctors and nuclear scientists.

This war is for the truth about uranium weapons, and the consequences of their
use, and has been waged for more than 13 years—since the U.S. government
first used DU weapons against Iraq. Most Americans, however, are unaware of
this historic struggle, because the Pentagon has used its power to prevent
information about DU from reaching the public.

John Hanchette, editor of USA Today from 1991 to 2001, in a recent interview
with anti-DU activist Leuren Moret, said he had written several news stories
about the effects of DU on gulf wars veterans. Every time he was ready to
publish a story about the devastating illnesses afflicting soldiers, however, the
Pentagon called USA Today and pressured him not to publish the story.
Hanchette was eventually replaced as editor and now teaches journalism to
college students.

Dr. Doug Rokke, 37-year Army veteran and former director of the Army’s
Depleted Uranium Project, has become an outspoken “warrior for peace” in the
war against DU weapons. Rokke is fighting for medical care for all people
exposed to DU: active soldiers, veterans and civilians, including Iraqis, and for
“remediation” or cleansing of all DU-contaminated land.

“Anyone who demands medical care and environmental remediation faces
ongoing and blatant retaliation,” Rokke told AFP. “Anybody who speaks up—
their career ends.”

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By heterochromatic, April 27, 2012 at 4:07 pm Link to this comment

c

and woupe—-this is classic radiation poisoning, there is about 14 tons of
depleted uranium bullets there—-


14 tons of BULLETS.sez who?

and who sez that depleted uranium causes radiation poisoning?

“Depleted uranium is weakly radioactive. It is not considered a significant
radiological hazard”

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

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By gerard, April 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm Link to this comment

Just one more answer to the question:  “Why do they hate us?”

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By heterochromatic, April 27, 2012 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment

DarthMiffy,—-that was quite amusing, thank you.

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By heterochromatic, April 27, 2012 at 12:28 pm Link to this comment

Erinyes—- if the deformities were noted in 1996 how
would they be caused by us military munitions ?

we surely weren’t bombing Fallujah as part of our no-
fly zone policy…...

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By balkas, April 27, 2012 at 7:42 am Link to this comment

lost for words. tired of repeating myself. godddevil help us all!

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By surfnow, April 27, 2012 at 7:37 am Link to this comment

Obama really is ” just the smiling face of empire” and it is his warmongering that has been his greatest betrayal. But he of coursis just another symptom of a sick, obscene militarism that is as bad if not worse becuase of its hypocrisy- than that of the Nazis.

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By litlpeep, April 27, 2012 at 6:44 am Link to this comment

“You can run, but you can’t hide….”

In Vietnam, 1968 we began singing that line heroically, as we were, initially, certain we would find “Charlie” wherever “he” went.

Before the summer of ‘68 was over, we knew the line was a joke on us.

Now, it is a sad historical irony of a joke on the US.

Remember the two body bag ID tags I & my buddy found on the GI “bodies” we dragged onto the C-123 we flew out of there: “War is good for business; invest another son;” and “We sent your son back, please send our bag back.”

Yes, vote for another war-mongering, Wall Street protecting thug.  That’s the best way to have more wars into which to throw our children while we pretend to export democracy with more agents oranges (and blue and white and purple, and…) and depleted uraniums leading the way.

It hardly matters which bipartisan thug you admire enough to honor him with your vote.

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By surfnow, April 27, 2012 at 5:15 am Link to this comment

Hey, enough of this anti-American propaganda. Everyone knows America only kills and maims to bring freedom and democracy.

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By DarthMiffy, April 27, 2012 at 3:36 am Link to this comment

Why does this article not name the most likely culprit: depleted uranium
bullets used by the US to offload the the American radioactive waste from
nuclear reactors.

Humanity does not know what to do with the nuclear power plant’s wastes.
So far, the only “solution” is to use them in bullets against endless “enemies
of the state”.

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By PatrickHenry, April 27, 2012 at 3:15 am Link to this comment

The karmic response to this is in the form of radioactive clouds headed this way from Fukishima.

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By coupe, April 26, 2012 at 9:16 pm Link to this comment

this is classic radiation poisoning, there is about 14 tons of depleted uranium bullets there

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By Erinyes, April 26, 2012 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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To try and blame this atrocity on tribal inbreeding is unconscionable cowardice that
defies any human attempt at logic, rationale and/or understanding.

If inbreeding were indeed the cause of this horror, no one would notice. After all inbreeding was quite common until the Middle Ages. It was common in early US colonies, and in US’s later history in remote areas. At the very least inbreds would have been a common sight and widely-known fact in pre-US war in Iraq. Those same kinds of deformities on such a large scale followed US H-bomb attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the massive use of US’s Agent Orange in Vietnam, and now the use of DU in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are even reports that the horror may be occurring in post-Ghaddafi Libya.

This crime against children precedes the the destruction of Fallujah. It follows the early US bombings of Iraq during the air invasion in Southern Iraq’s no-fly zone, The “lucky” children died of starvation (victims of US-imposed “sanctions”) and well-known diseases such as cholera, etc.

The deformities have been noticed and described by a German MD in 1996:
(WARNING: horrific pictures of deformed babies)
http://aztlan.net/du_deformed_iraqi_babies.htm

Those same deformities have been found among children born to US and NATO servicemen and
women who have served with ground troops, altho’ on a much smaller scale.
The Iraqis have been living with the DU debris scattered all over their country for 20 years. The half-life of DU is just over 4.5 BILLION (with a B) years.

Just one of a long list of reasons why the world would rather the US kept its ‘democracy’ to itself.

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By Big B, April 26, 2012 at 5:50 pm Link to this comment

The only thing we americans can hope for is that there is no such thing as Karma. Because if there is, our afterlives are going to suck big time. If we are not all re-incarnated as those green flies that eat horse shit all day.

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By Robespierre115, April 26, 2012 at 5:01 pm Link to this comment

Read this article and then reflect on the recent Time Magazine cover showing Obama smiling like an imbecile with Bush and Clinton. Only here do we turn war criminals into celebrities.

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